Pearl - November 29, 2024GOOD MEN Are Told To 'MAN UP' And Marry These 304s ｜ Pearl Daily
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On today's show, we have a special guest on the show, Jeff Perla. Jeff is a conservative commentator, lawyer, and author who has been involved in the culture war for a long time. He has been fighting for equal pay for women and equal rights for men. In this episode, we talk about the problems we are facing and how we can fix them.
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So this was on the culture war from like a year ago.
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This was the guy that came on and said that his son was transitioned against his will.
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And it seems like the solution should be to change the culture in the legal system.
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So here's, but here's where we get into the sticky area of policy, right?
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I never speak about social problems in terms of solutions, right?
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Look, infanticide and giving babies away were existing.
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How do you find, you know how you find Roman brothers, when archaeologists find Roman brothers?
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They find dead, because they kill all the male babies, they're of no economic use.
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They raise girl children up to be prostitutes in these brothers.
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But we should think in terms of mitigating these problems and minimizing them.
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And that's a better way of thinking about them, I think.
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The solution is, I believe, ending no-fault divorce, right?
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And I would be even willing to compromise, because we live in a world, a democracy, where
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I would compromise and say, you may have no-fault divorce if there are no children in the marriage.
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If there are children in the marriage, it converts to a no-fault divorce.
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You would have to go to an at-fault model at that point.
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Yeah, you go to an at-fault model when you have children.
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So I'm willing to compromise with people who want these sort of what I call emotional marriages.
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You know, I'm willing, okay, fine, let's do that.
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I think we have to do some other things with, you know, correcting the legal system around
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I'm just telling you that you're fighting because of Title IV-D reimbursements to the
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states, which are heavily invested in divorce and only exist when fathers are out of the
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home, just like the welfare system destroyed the black families in this country.
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When these systems are so big, I mean, you're talking about trillions of dollars.
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These are bigger than some of the largest defense programs.
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Jeff is the first one that educated me on this reality.
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This, they're larger than some of the largest defense programs, and we can't get rid of
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The Marine Corps and the Army have been trying to get rid of the heavy division concept since
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the 1980s, when I was in the military, and they can't get rid of it.
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So my problem is, it's going to take five generations to get to alter these laws.
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Now, we're going to go back to, this is what conservatives will always say.
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When you say, hey, these laws are pretty bad, you know, 18 years, that's...
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I mean, I don't know about you guys, but if I get on child support at 30, I don't get
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The conservatives will always say, hey, men, take all the responsibility.
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If you were just real good, moral men, if you were a real man, you would man up and marry
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You would man up and marry these subpar women that are divorcing you after seven years and
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putting you on child support because, I mean, genetic legacy.
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I mean, if the birth rate's 1.5 now, what are the odds it's going to go up in 10 years?
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So your kid, you have a kid now in 20 years when they decide kid or no kid, is the odds
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that they will have a child or not have a child if it drops to 0.5 like Korea?
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There was one story, I think it was out of Wisconsin where a woman got pregnant.
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When she gave birth, she listed some random guy she knew as the father.
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Y'all need to look up Carnell West who started the movement against this.
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I can tell you this in Texas until 2014, all children in the marriage were presumed to be the husbands.
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You should be on the birth certificate no matter what.
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So now she's saying, give us the benefit of the doubt.
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I don't think that he should be responsible for a child.
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Well, we used to do that for almost all of Western law.
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But the issue comes when, you know, what are the conditions under which you can demonstrate
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that the child isn't yours and be relieved of your obligations?
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Most states did not have a way to do that until just the last six years.
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You know, Carnell, for example, I've talked to him at length about this.
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I mean, he paid child support for 15 years for a child that wasn't his.
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And they just wouldn't stop, even though he had genetic tests.
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Texas never allowed genetic tests until, I think it was 2014.
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California says that fathers may never genetically test their children without the consent of
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So, like, I agree that we have got to overhaul the system.
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So, again, this is how women have a tendency, like the trad feministy women, they have a tendency
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to say, oh, just change it all tomorrow, where the men come in and say, well, that's not
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Because, again, when men get things done, they have to make a plan, they have to follow
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So that there are advantages financially, socially, for men to commit to the women that they're
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And, yeah, it's good for men and women, but it's non-negotiable for the babies.
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Like, from a children's rights perspective, we have got to start changing culture, law,
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It comes, this is where it comes down to, like, I'll be, look, I'm with you.
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Even after my ex-wife tried to transition my son, for five years, I still told her I'd
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Even though I have a total disagreement with her about that.
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And see, she keeps trying to interrupt him, right?
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But it's like, she still wants to go on an emotional tirade.
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Oh, it should be, it should be, it should be, it should be.
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And he's like, well, this is what it is, honey.
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Going to compare what men should do against an ideal that doesn't exist and won't exist
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Culture, law, and technology don't reflect the ideal.
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The answer is not to remake children in your own technological image.
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It is, you can go to Argentina, you can marry a woman, just make sure that you raise your
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So again, she's saying, well, okay, so let me get this straight.
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Now, I'm just going to put myself in a man that really knows what's going on shoes.
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I know this is risky, but I'm just going to pick the best woman I can.
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Another is getting a woman pregnant in a different country.
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But what if he doesn't want to live there, but he wants a child?
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But when you look at men's perspective, what are they supposed to do?
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And again, instead of saying, understanding where the men are coming from, finger wagging.
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There's actually a Christian way to actually do surrogacy in a way.
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So you have legal surrogacy, but you don't actually use somebody else's eggs.
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So for example, I've checked in three states, and there's nothing that prevents a married
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So you could get married, you have your wife sign a surrogacy contract, and then you have
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conjugal relations in a biblical way, and then the children belong to the father, and
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the mother has the legal relation of a stepmother.
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But she's still the biological mother in every way.
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Because the biological mother, the birth mother, the social mother should all also be the legal
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You do not splice woman into three different parts, the social, the legal, and the genetic.
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From a children's rights perspective, all of those women need to be found in one place.
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And just like it was an injustice to strip you of your rights to your children, even though
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you're the biological father, it's an injustice to strip children of their mothers.
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If a man said, hey, I want you to sign a surrogacy contract so the children are mine in a patriarchal
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Would you marry and have a child under those conditions?
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I married and had a child with a man who 100% gets 100% claim to my children.
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Not legally. You have the claim to the children.
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If I were to divorce him, there's a possibility the courts would side with me.
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Or I think precisely zero women would sign a surrogacy.
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What this tells me is that when we put women in the same conditions that fathers are in
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today, they choose not to have children and not to marry, which proves my point that under
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the current conditions, surrogacy is a legitimate option.
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That is the most mic drop thing I've ever heard.
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This is what I mean when I say feminist or Christian, like feminist women have a tendency
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She's saying, well, but my husband does have the right to his kids.
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And as soon as she's in the man's shoes, she says, no, that's wrong.
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But yet, they will still say that men are not real men if they don't want to do it.
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I say that your statement about legal surrogacy to the biological mother is very logically sound
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And so imagine how fathers feel when, no offense, but trad women are constantly telling young
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men to just suck it up, take the risk, and marry when we all admit that precisely zero women
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Because the stepmother in this scenario, being a constant caregiver to the child,
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would have the same visitation rights as fathers have today.
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They would have continuous visitation, continuous relationship.
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I understand that it's risky, and the deck is stacked against them.
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I'm not seeing any man who is living a happier, better life than the men who are married stably
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to the women and the mothers of their children.
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Yeah, if the woman decides to not be a terrorist.
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I mean, yeah, if, if, that's if, if, if the woman says, you know what, I am not going to
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But you know what, the homeless men that are on drugs because their child support is 80%
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of their paycheck, and no matter how much money they make, it keeps getting raised, and they're
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dragged in and out of court for 15 years versus the guy who just never married.
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I, I could, I could see the argument that the guy who never married is happier.
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Something to strive for and is ideal, but that, like, I think Jeff is correct.
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And we end up seeing this reflected in a lot of online communities.
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A lot, a lot of men are outright saying, I mean, with, with MGTOW.
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It's not, MGTOW's not absolutely about any one thing.
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But a lot of these men are saying, the risks are too great.
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Just like a woman would say, I'm not going to enter that agreement.
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Well, what's disturbing is, you know, you find it horrifying.
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I'm not something, it's a lot of the stuff I'm talking about, people think I'm proposing.
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Well, and it's effective to point out the problems.
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Well, no, women are rightly upset about me even proposing that.
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But that is the exact position every father is in legally.
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Not necessarily socially, but legally in the end when they have children with a woman in
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a normal marriage under this horrifying legal regime.
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And if women won't, again, I ask, if women won't do it, how can we ethically tell young
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I want to just say one thing, because I think some people don't understand.
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Online communities where men talk about, you know, they'll post memes of like a guy sitting
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on a cliffside with his dog and it'll say something like serenity or whatever.
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But I will also add, you moving to California, sir, is the political equivalent of running
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So we have to talk about getting away from cities and getting away from these jurisdictions
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They have no, like, I can't remember these numbers off the top of my head.
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But I remember I had someone go through what, if you get divorced, what percent of divorces
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Meaning that she's taking away your, like, she's actively trying to get you to not see
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If you include the financial piece to, it's in one of my Google docs, let me pull it up,
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So half of all divorces, at least, because benefit of the doubt, like giving as much
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benefit of the doubt as possible, half of divorces.
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These and getting away from these jurisdictions if you can, and that we understand some people
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may want to stay in these places because of their kids.
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But I will also add, you moving to California, sir, is the political equivalent of running
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So we have to talk about getting away from cities and getting away from these jurisdictions
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if you can, and that we understand some people may want to stay in these places because of
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And a lot of people have said, I can't move out of the city.
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And I'm like, that I view as your house is on fire and you refuse to leave until you know
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I also want to point out that what Jeff is doing is the essence of true manhood and the
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best kind of father, the best that fathers can be, which is utter protectiveness and everything
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It would have saved him more time to just give up because he had the same outcome to
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Can you blame men for looking at that and saying, yeah, I'm not going to fight in court.
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But again, it's the best fathers are enslaved to women.
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I would say that it is a genetic biological drive that good men have.
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And every kid, every child should have a father like this.
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So, you know, feminists have often said men don't participate in child rearing equally.
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So that's not true. That's not true, but really until the 1950s, nobody was rich enough to do that, right?
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Throughout all of human history, women raised, young children, in most civilizations, the age of nine.
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The reputation that the Italians had for being mama's boys because it was till 12, you know, that's where that comes from.
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They stayed with their mother and then the boys went with the fathers.
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And so girls and young children stayed with the mothers.
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Men have always equally participated in child rearing.
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And what men feel particularly is this horrifying thing where your offspring are going to be raised in values contrary to your ancestors and to your own values.
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And your children would be turned against your own values.
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I have a friend in Houston whose wife divorced him and converted his children to Islam.
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His children have been turned against his values.
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You know, there was a study done by a researcher named Elizabeth Margaret, who her study was called Between Two Worlds.
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And it studied the impact that divorce had on children.
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And in close to 50% of cases, the child developed two different personalities because they had, like, mom had one political persuasion.
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You know, the screen limits over here are, like, one hour a day.
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And, like, they, kids have to transform to be a different person between dad's house and mom's house.
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And actually, your situation was almost archetypal where your child had to literally become a different person at mom's house.
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Now, again, this kind of goes back to what I was told.
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Now, what I'm not saying is that maybe that's not important.
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But what matters more, the multi-personality thing or the men killing themselves every year because of family court?
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So she brings it back to something that doesn't matter.
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He keeps bringing it back to thing that matters.
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An environment where parents are just screaming at each other 24-7.
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But you punish the parents for that, not the kids.
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Here's an interesting thing about the rights of children, right?
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We often hear from the modern-day left establishment narratives that children have a right to just insert and you name it.
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Yeah, to having their transgender identity hidden from their parents.
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If they have a right to testosterone from Planned Parenthood.
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But my view is it's more so a right to your parents acting responsibly to protect you.
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Meaning the child can't decide he wants to eat ice cream.
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It is a violation of the rights of the child for a parent to just give them three gallons of ice cream for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
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The reality is that children's rights to their own mother and father, it actually might be too weak of a term.
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They have such a claim to their own parents that there really is very little language we could use to describe the strength of that claim.
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And all human civilization is based on that one thing.
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And so children have a right to be known and loved by their mother and father.
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They have a right to an intact body, an unmedicalized body.
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It is the duty of parents to protect those rights.
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In natural law theory, rights and duties are two sides of the same coin.
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So you're exactly right, Tim, that there's a lot of momentum on the right when it comes to parental rights.
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You do not have a right to chemically sterilize your child just because you think, I'm the parent, I can do what I want.
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So I think parental rights are important, but insufficient when it comes to child protection.
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That is why I use the language of children's rights.
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Because just because an adult wants to do something like take their kid to drag queen...
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And the tender years doctrine was a sexist law.
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And it assumed that the best interest of the child is to be with the mother under the age of seven.
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And as you guys know, women are the most likely ones to abuse children.
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And they're the most likely ones to kill children.
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The danger of children's rights is what we see in the family courts today.
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Where, unfortunately, we live in a decadent society.
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There's no general agreement on what constitutes what's, you know, good for a child in many circumstances.
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So the notion of children's rights could be used in such a way as to force parents in California to transition their children.
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They want men to do all of the work, to take all of the responsibility for nothing in return.
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And they will shame them and say, you're not real men.
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Why on earth would a guy get married and have kids in a system where the woman is paid to rob him?
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