Pearl - May 31, 2026


He Says You're Not A Good Husband If You're Telling Your Wife What To Do!


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In this episode, we talk about whether or not it's okay for women to tell their husbands what to do and why it's not okay for men to do the same. We also talk about why women should obey their husbands and why men should not.

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00:00:00.000 Correct.
00:00:00.340 So my question is, can you be obedient if you're telling your husband what to do?
00:00:04.660 I would say no, but I would say you probably wouldn't be being a very good husband if you're just telling your wife what to do. 0.87
00:00:10.020 So the question we have today is, should Christian women, or in this case, Catholic women, obey their husbands? 0.83
00:00:16.880 Yes, no, and then explain what your reasoning is. 0.66
00:00:19.720 Okay, I would say yes.
00:00:23.180 I guess to start with the basis, are you Christian?
00:00:27.460 just so we know the base or are you just trying to get my answer i'm catholic no i'm catholic
00:00:34.100 okay awesome awesome uh would you what's your answer well i don't like to input my opinion
00:00:39.880 too much because i'm really trying to understand what people believe at the different churches so
00:00:44.340 if i input my opinion too much then it's not like um i like it to be an unbiased interview
00:00:50.180 does that make sense it does it does and just for reference so this is not our home parish
00:00:53.980 We're just visiting here. We're from Houston. We go to our lazy of Walsingham there in Houston.
00:00:59.300 I would say yes, because God asked them to obey us. You know, he said, you know, wives,
00:01:06.540 obey your husbands. Husbands, love your wives like Christ loved the church.
00:01:12.880 That doesn't make us any less equal. If anything, that just puts way more responsibility on the
00:01:17.860 husbands to be able to, we're responsible for those decisions. Plus, I think it's normal for
00:01:25.740 any relationship for there has to be when there is a disagreement, somebody has to make the final
00:01:30.920 word. It has to be somebody. And I would say because Jesus Christ did say, hey, the husbands
00:01:37.900 are going to lead, the wives are going to obey their husbands, and the husbands are going to
00:01:43.520 love their wives, like Christ loved the church. And then he kind of set that hierarchy. And so
00:01:47.760 we're just following his lead. Do you think it's okay for women to tell their husbands what to do? 1.00
00:01:55.780 Do I think it's okay for women to tell their husbands what to do? Can you give me an example? 0.99
00:02:03.660 Telling him to do chores, telling him like what to do around the house,
00:02:08.240 like where the kids are going to go to school, you know, just like there's a lot of decisions
00:02:13.180 in a long-term marriage that have to be made.
00:02:15.580 Correct.
00:02:15.900 So my question is, can you be obedient
00:02:18.420 if you're telling your husband what to do?
00:02:21.420 I would say no, but I would say
00:02:23.220 you probably wouldn't be being a very good husband
00:02:25.080 if you're just telling your wife what to do.
00:02:27.180 Okay.
00:02:27.560 I would say it should always start with a discussion.
00:02:29.340 You both go through the issue, whatever it is,
00:02:31.720 what school your children should go to.
00:02:33.900 You both say what you think pros and cons are.
00:02:36.940 At the end, hopefully you come to a mutual agreement.
00:02:39.840 Yeah, but it doesn't always work.
00:02:40.840 It doesn't always work.
00:02:41.620 And if just like in everything else, like at your job, your boss gets the final say.
00:02:46.540 And God said the husband's the boss, and so we follow what he says. 0.99
00:02:51.060 Yeah, so that's actually my next question is why is it that women would never tell their boss what to do, 1.00
00:02:58.280 but they'll tell their husbands what to do? 0.73
00:03:01.200 Like why do the bosses, I'm not saying at this church, but just in general,
00:03:04.340 why do they get more obedience than the husbands?
00:03:06.220 oof well i i hopefully it's because they feel safer in their marriage to push back
00:03:14.860 because i would say the exact same thing about husbands like why do we treat strangers better
00:03:19.840 than we do our wives there's no way husbands don't treat strangers better are you married
00:03:26.600 no no i i will say there are my parents have been married 30 years yeah yeah i i mean i hope
00:03:33.300 overall, I treat my wife better, but there are times where I will give her more grief
00:03:37.580 than I would a stranger. I would give a stranger, maybe you're not responsible for a stranger,
00:03:42.860 right? True. Yeah. So it's like, you know, if you're the one in charge of her, right?
00:03:49.020 Yeah. And I hope I'm doing a great job taking care of her, but yeah, I think because in that
00:03:53.740 relationship, you feel you're able to let your feelings come out more. And so you,
00:03:58.520 you may say things or do things that maybe isn't as nice as you would have to a stranger
00:04:06.280 because you you do feel more open to let that feeling out why are men so afraid to tell their
00:04:12.200 husband or why are men so afraid to tell their wives to obey them because i honestly i've done
00:04:18.580 a lot of street signs over the years i've had feminist is a hate group face like like i've had
00:04:24.300 most controversial abortion i have never had more hostility than bringing the word obey to church
00:04:29.820 really i've never and it kind of makes me sad i think we it kind of makes me so like it kind of
00:04:35.100 makes me it kind of black filled me they called the cops or they're like yeah yeah and it's like
00:04:40.060 no i don't care it's that's part of the i'm allowed to be here so it's like but
00:04:43.900 i just kind of it black pills me a little bit because i'm like why is obey um you know why is
00:04:49.900 is it a controversial word?
00:04:51.540 The kids have to obey the parents, right?
00:04:53.620 Exactly.
00:04:53.980 And at the church, we all have to obey God.
00:04:56.280 Yeah.
00:04:56.680 That is his calling for us.
00:04:58.080 We obey him.
00:04:59.580 Yeah.
00:04:59.900 And in this particular case, he says, hey, husbands, lead your family.
00:05:03.160 Yeah.
00:05:04.920 I'm sure he has good reasons for that.
00:05:07.060 Yeah.
00:05:07.220 I'm sure we can think of secular reasons why, you know, 0.95
00:05:11.220 the husbands may be better leaders than the wives.
00:05:13.700 And I'm sure we can come up with, you know, theological reasons why he may have made it that way.
00:05:18.260 but he specifically did and so do you believe in the natural order of the world like god
00:05:24.420 men women children uh definitely god humans uh the order between men women children i think that's
00:05:36.560 more of a responsibility thing and not whereas like we are definitely not equal with god but
00:05:42.020 Men, women, children are all equal in their humanity.
00:05:46.520 But do they have different roles to play?
00:05:48.820 Absolutely.
00:05:49.880 And does the world see those roles as one has power over the other?
00:05:55.160 Unfortunately, does that really mean that?
00:05:57.420 No.
00:05:58.080 Well, why is that a bad thing?
00:05:59.880 To have power over someone or to have this particular hierarchy?
00:06:03.500 Well, I don't have a boss, but if I used to, right?
00:06:06.140 Like, if he has power over me, I don't think that's a bad thing.
00:06:09.400 No.
00:06:09.900 Like, it's only a bad thing.
00:06:11.340 It is the order of things.
00:06:12.460 He's the boss.
00:06:13.520 That's his job.
00:06:14.500 Yeah. 0.83
00:06:14.800 So, like, why would that be a bad thing for the man to have power over the woman?
00:06:18.480 I don't think it is.
00:06:19.520 Yeah.
00:06:19.820 I don't think it's a bad thing.
00:06:20.600 I think the world has labeled that as bad.
00:06:23.160 And they see, I think the problem is the world is out searching for power and they think they want power.
00:06:29.540 But, and not to be cliche and go all, like, Spider-Man, but, like, that power comes with responsibility.
00:06:35.180 And I think most people, they want the power, but they don't really want the responsibility.
00:06:38.620 Yeah.
00:06:38.800 And so they really, then you probably don't get the power if you're not ready.
00:06:42.600 What's responsibility without authority?
00:06:47.440 That's good.
00:06:49.000 What is responsibility without authority?
00:06:52.460 Can I expand on that for me a little bit?
00:06:54.100 Like what is, if you have responsibility over something, but you don't have authority over it.
00:06:59.800 So if you have a bunch of employees and you're responsible for them,
00:07:03.320 or you have a family and you're responsible, but you don't have authority, what is that?
00:07:06.680 that feels pretty worthless like what's the point because I you see that in the workplace a lot
00:07:12.740 where like you have a boss who gives you things to do but they really have very little authority
00:07:18.060 over yeah making you do that or there being consequences if you don't it's yeah I would say
00:07:24.820 that's that's very it's very difficult to then manage that responsibility if you don't have any
00:07:31.740 authority to actually would you say it's close to slavery because you have all the responsibility
00:07:38.620 of working but no authority on over what you can do uh i don't know if i would push those two
00:07:47.000 together because there i would be thinking about the it's more the slave owner that has the
00:07:52.440 responsibility but he has authority and he does also have authority yeah you know he's
00:07:57.960 just a thought potentially not mismanaging that well yeah yeah um do you think that the catholic
00:08:07.200 church teaches this like do you think that they are good about telling the women to obey you would
00:08:13.340 say i would say yes okay that is granted that is the person who's only been a catholic for a year
00:08:17.940 so far i've been practicing for five years but only officially one year okay it's a baptist before
00:08:22.660 that okay well that's all my questions you're great it takes a lot of courage to say these
00:08:27.060 thing so i appreciate you coming up what was your name pearl davis um it'll be on youtube if you
00:08:32.380 just google pearl davis so tell them i'm nice tell them not i don't know why i mean i'd love
00:08:38.880 to argue with people anyway so this is super easy for me yeah yeah and i don't know if they what is
00:08:44.340 your stance i would say yeah i would say i think that's what's people scared like they don't
00:08:48.360 realize they actually probably totally agree with you or do you get a lot of people i get church i
00:08:53.040 think church is like the most like I would say if you believe in the the church worldview it's yes
00:09:01.220 but some people don't believe in it then you're doing a partnership right but if you believe in
00:09:06.060 like I don't think marriage is marriage if a man doesn't have authority then you're in a partnership
00:09:09.800 I don't you know what I mean like then that's something else I'm not saying it's wrong to do 1.00
00:09:13.880 that right that's your choice but like you know I just I think it's like women want the the status 1.00
00:09:21.620 of marriage without the hard part because obeying is actually I really hate it when women get 0.96
00:09:26.960 married and they say it's like um because I'm not married but I've been in a relationship where I do 0.83
00:09:32.260 have to listen to it's really hard like when you think you're right like and just like biting your
00:09:37.440 tongue and like just doing what he wants to do anyway you know humble yeah it's not easy and I'm
00:09:43.320 like if you were raised as a woman in America there's no way you know how to like do this off
00:09:47.800 the bat and you're going to have to learn like it's like do you know what i'm saying like and i 0.60
00:09:51.980 just don't think it's helpful even to women to not say that like you're supposed to obey like you do
00:09:57.200 your boss you know so and i think if you say not trying to say husbands are god yeah but if you
00:10:02.700 think about that same relationship like you i think about the freedom that you get yeah through god
00:10:10.340 i know he he's going to take care of it he's got the responsibility and the authority to handle
00:10:15.320 of this and i'm free because i've given him my life if you just roll that down one level to think
00:10:21.000 of how free the wife can be if she just gives that responsibility to her husband yeah well and you
00:10:25.960 look we spend too much money we eat too much sugar like naturally like we have like terrible habits
00:10:31.880 and you don't realize as a woman how bad your habits are until you start like seriously dating
00:10:36.520 a man and you just like notice i'm like oh i buy amazon over nothing you know like like do
00:10:43.320 The number of Amazon boxes I break down every day. 1.00
00:10:46.360 Yeah, and so many guys are enslaved to their wife's spending habits 0.98
00:10:49.720 because he can't legally tell her no. 1.00
00:10:53.120 Luckily, my wife does a great job. 1.00
00:10:54.520 She's great at this.
00:10:56.600 Yeah, but I'm saying like I think it's sad that it's not taught in churches.
00:11:01.960 Like a lot of – I can't say which ones do and which don't, right?
00:11:05.380 So I just go to the churches and I see what they say.
00:11:08.740 Yeah, unfortunately, we're not good at holding our people accountable.
00:11:11.160 we teach this but
00:11:13.380 we're not going to get in your face
00:11:15.060 sometimes you're going to get in people's faces
00:11:16.480 I don't know the best way to go about it
00:11:18.680 I just ask questions but I try not to
00:11:20.860 I don't want to influence people's answers
00:11:22.960 so I try to just let them talk
00:11:25.240 first before I give mine
00:11:26.600 thank you so much
00:11:28.900 I really appreciate it
00:11:30.060 thank you