Pearl - October 10, 2025


How Conservatives TRICK YOU into Marrying Modern Women


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21 minutes

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207

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25

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, have you heard the good news? Fake trad cons have solved all of your romantic problems.
00:00:05.280 You can now find a girl at church and get married ASAP. Don't even worry about the risks. Just man
00:00:10.320 up and marry these hoes. Don't think, just go for it. It'll probably be fine. And if you don't,
00:00:16.540 you're probably one of those doomer red pillars who hate women. The opposition of feminists,
00:00:21.720 or so fake trad cons have been telling me. You see, what people like the trad cons at the Daily
00:00:27.580 Wire have been saying the past few years is that with a few extra steps, marriage is totally safe
00:00:32.600 now. Young men, we're just going to cut right to it. Find a woman, fall in love, get married,
00:00:37.560 have more children than you can afford. Well, now they say grow up and then get married. And in the
00:00:41.920 past they said, get married and grow up. So that you can grow up. I mean, I think frankly, people
00:00:45.600 are getting married too late on average. Right now, I think it's 28 for men and 26 for women.
00:00:48.980 That's way too late. In a marriage where you have children, nurture provider roles are very valuable.
00:00:55.080 What do I mean by that? Nurture and provide. Both parents do both. Fathers should nurture their
00:01:00.120 kids. Mothers should provide. But specifically for mothers of young children. Divorce rates have
00:01:05.100 been dropping and all you've got to do is be religious and the risk is almost completely
00:01:09.440 eliminated. Fake trad cons have also pointed out that marriage is always awesome and married men
00:01:14.660 wind up being richer, happier, and healthier than all you single losers out there. So don't delay.
00:01:20.300 Find yourself that born again virgin, the retired OnlyFans ho and tie the knot right away. God will
00:01:26.620 absolve her of all of her sins. So you should too. I'm sure those tattoos will laser right off.
00:01:33.240 Nevermind that the church is the last stop on the whore train. Of course, the reality is drastically
00:01:38.560 different. When I started putting together a divorce documentary a few years ago, I could not
00:01:43.940 understand why so many men did not want to get married. But then I was exposed to a vast sea of
00:01:50.480 horror stories of how men were treated in marriage and divorce court. One after another accounts of
00:01:56.240 dozens upon dozens of men going through hell on earth and being ground into dust underneath a boot
00:02:02.080 heel of a corrupt system. Many of these horror stories come from men who were religious. In fact,
00:02:07.420 one of the worst horror stories I ever heard, an utterly harrowing tale that I will never forget,
00:02:12.960 came from a man who attended the exact same church as the fanatically religious marriage pusher-in-chief
00:02:19.240 Michael Knowles of the Daily Wire. I'm just saying how people ought to behave. And they ought to get
00:02:25.000 married, is what I'm saying. Which is implied by our nature, which is the is. Because it is good for
00:02:30.140 men to be married and to have children. Of course, in reality, conservative commentators frequently
00:02:35.900 mislead men about marriage in a number of ways. Their motivations for this act of deceptions are twofold.
00:02:41.700 One, they don't care about calling for divorce reform because they don't want to piss off their
00:02:46.860 female audience. Women, particularly those of marriageable age, are much less likely to become
00:02:52.260 conservatives. Highlighting the corruption of the divorce system, one of the few examples of
00:02:57.160 institutional sexism that actually exists would force conservatives to mention how some women have
00:03:03.100 shamelessly taken advantage of the system to snatch more than their fair share or even to brutally
00:03:08.280 punish their ex-husbands via lawfare. And God forbid you should offend all of those aspiring
00:03:13.360 tradwives who tune into the Daily Wire, the Raisin Bran of online political commentary, or threaten to
00:03:19.120 take away their massive safety net should the tradwives decide to turn hypocrite and quit their marriage.
00:03:25.000 At best, conservative commentators will occasionally throw a lukewarm statement acknowledging that the
00:03:30.660 divorce system is corrupt, before adding that it'll never be reformed in our lifetime, and so men might
00:03:36.460 as well take the risk of getting married anyway. The second motivation is many conservatives are secretly
00:03:42.020 happy with the divorce system as it now stands, at least partially, because it allows them to sell their
00:03:48.400 religion as a vital part of the solution. If divorce law was reformed to be more equitable and less biased
00:03:54.420 against men, then fake trad cons wouldn't be able to say that having a religion substantially reduces the
00:04:00.620 chances of divorce. As we shall see, that claim is a significant exaggeration and in certain cases it's an
00:04:07.220 outright lie. As for you seculars, fake trad cons really couldn't care less. Though they may not openly
00:04:13.160 say it, secular marriage is an abomination in their eyes, and ultimately you deserve what you get. And what
00:04:19.440 does it matter if hundreds of millions of men across the world continue to have their families torn apart,
00:04:24.440 their finances destroyed, with them becoming paying spectators of their children's lives? If it means
00:04:30.480 fake trad cons get to add a few more bodies to the congregation with the claim that religion reduces
00:04:35.720 risk. Ask Stephen Crowder how that one worked out. So how do conservatives gloss over the risks of men
00:04:42.420 face in marriage? First, they gleefully point out that the divorce rate has been declining. It's no longer the
00:04:48.300 cliche 50 percent. According to most reliable estimates from sources like the American Psychological
00:04:54.460 Association, the U.S. Census Bureau, and the Center for Disease Control, the divorce rate has declined
00:05:00.420 from roughly a 55 percent peak around 1980 to somewhere between 40 and 45 percent today. The decrease is
00:05:08.380 mostly due to the marriage rate being almost cut in half since 1980 and unmarried cohabitation skyrocketing
00:05:14.900 since then. If there was a sudden rush for marriage across society, it would almost certainly rise
00:05:20.400 again. But the divorce rate isn't just a simple calculation. It's all based on population samples
00:05:26.700 and surveys to get a crude number of divorces per a thousand people. Then further estimates and
00:05:31.720 projections are required to give us the more familiar percentages of 40, 45, or 50 percent of all marriages
00:05:38.460 failing. The extra calculations required allow room for deliberate deception. Certain pro-marriage
00:05:44.480 activists and conservative commentators have employed specific data sets and population samples
00:05:50.040 along with some creative accounting to claim that the divorce rate is actually 35 percent or even as low
00:05:55.900 as 30 percent, with some conservatives like Christian scholar and social researcher Shanti Feldhan
00:06:02.160 claiming that the divorce rate is no higher than 25 percent. This is delusional nonsense. But there
00:06:08.460 you have it. According to the commentators who deliberately want men to net up and get hitched,
00:06:14.060 the odds of your marriage falling apart aren't 50-50, they're 1 in 3, or even as low as 1 in 4.
00:06:19.940 Now, you might argue that if you started your car in the morning and there's a 25 to 35 percent
00:06:24.660 chance of your car exploding, you'd be more likely to just take the bus. But for marriage advocates,
00:06:30.100 a 25 to 35 percent chance of having your life ruined and your finances destroyed is an acceptable
00:06:35.880 risk for men to take, for God and country. For perspective, the odds are actually worse than a round
00:06:41.940 of Russian roulette. Of course, as mentioned, the most reliable estimates for the modern divorce rate
00:06:47.800 are currently between 40 and 45 percent of all marriages failing, slightly less than half, not exactly
00:06:53.720 great, with the average length of a marriage being roughly eight years. Hardly a picture of till death
00:06:59.120 do us part, unless you happen to be a heroin addict or you've got yourself a dose of cancer.
00:07:04.540 In reality, 40 to 45 percent is not that big of a difference from the 50-50 coin toss the general
00:07:10.440 public associates with divorce. But conservatives are desperate to exaggerate just how much the
00:07:16.020 divorce rate is declining. So men feel more comfortable taking the plunge. Damn the risks,
00:07:22.040 marry these hoes, Godspeed. The next way fake trad cons tend to manipulate men towards marriage
00:07:27.620 is by offering them the silver bullet that if you become conservative and choose a religious girl,
00:07:33.200 your chances of divorce are substantially reduced. One set of statistics that has been passed around
00:07:39.600 by marriage advocates and conservative commentators are the ones compiled by Megan Cooper, a purple-haired
00:07:45.460 amateur historian who writes fluff for the bubblegum lifestyle website, lovetoknow.com. Cooper's article
00:07:53.100 was then copy and pasted almost verbatim to the websites of a few law firms, where doubtless the
00:08:00.160 numbers looked more and more credible. This is where marriage advocates found them and spread them
00:08:04.920 across social media as if they were fact. So widespread are they now that they are in fact the top
00:08:09.840 Google search and AI researchers like Grok mistakenly referenced them. According to Megan Cooper's
00:08:15.480 numbers, which she calculated somewhat haphazardly and inaccurately from a Pew survey data,
00:08:20.820 I will spare you the joke about women in math. According to her, Catholics have a 19% divorce
00:08:26.040 rate, Orthodox a 9%, Jews a 9%, Muslims 8%, and Hindus 5%, all of which seem substantially smaller than a
00:08:35.260 U.S. average of 40 to 45%. Then Cooper provides a 51% divorce rate for mainstream Protestants, which
00:08:42.360 people uncritically think accounts for the high national average. In reality, the 51%, which has been
00:08:48.340 parroted on law firm websites and across the internet, appears to have been a plain old
00:08:53.560 miscalculation on Cooper's part. The highest divorce rates were among Protestants, according to Cooper's
00:08:59.400 own data. Our evangelicals and born-again Christians with a 28% and 33% respectively, neither of which would
00:09:07.360 explain the 51% average. Nevertheless, all of these percentages seem like a substantially reduced risk.
00:09:14.340 Making it appear is all you got to do is get right with God and you'll wind up with an adorable wife
00:09:19.680 in a sundress who bakes cherry pies all day. But what most people don't seem to notice is these numbers
00:09:25.660 are not lifetime divorce rates. Instead, they are a snapshot of the number of divorced people at any
00:09:32.100 given time. The percentages don't take into account these people who have remarried. And we know divorce
00:09:37.860 rates are worse for second and third marriages. And what marriage advocates and conservative commentators
00:09:43.500 often neglect to mention about Cooper's data is that the divorce rate for atheists is 2%,
00:09:48.960 which law firms inflated to 11% to look slightly less ridiculous. This is the stuff that is currently
00:09:55.380 being widely cited online as fact. Conservative commentators just tend not to mention the atheist
00:10:00.620 number. Either way, the low divorce rate for atheists would seemingly imply that the reduced risk has nothing
00:10:06.180 to do with religion. But something doesn't add up. On the other hand, if we correct Megan Cooper's math
00:10:11.460 and derive lifetime divorce rates from the same Pew data, it paints a drastically different picture.
00:10:16.920 People with no religion have a lifetime divorce rate of 48%. Evangelicals have a divorce rate of 46%.
00:10:23.580 Mainstream Protestants, 42%. Historically, Black Protestants, 54%. Catholics, 35%. Orthodox, 33%.
00:10:32.020 Jews, 33%. Muslims, 24%. And Hindus, 15%. For Christian denominations in Judaism,
00:10:38.200 that means your odds of divorce lie between 1 and 3 and 1 and 2. Not exactly that much of a reduction
00:10:43.960 of risk. And given that most American conservatives are Christian, they are probably not exactly thrilled
00:10:49.920 with the idea of your best bet for staying married is worshipping Allah or Vishnu. And those religions
00:10:56.140 have a lower divorce rate for other reasons, such as the subordination of women in the Islamic
00:11:00.940 Hadith and the arranged marriages of the Hindu. It should be noted that Hindus have slightly better odds
00:11:07.000 than a game of Russian roulette and only by a measly 1.6%. And it's hardly a silver bullet
00:11:13.240 against divorce if the state is still holding a gun to your head. I should point out that I'm
00:11:18.460 continuing to develop my in-depth documentary on modern divorce with a huge emphasis on listening
00:11:23.480 to men's stories and perspectives and calling for direly needed legal reform and societal change.
00:11:29.560 The documentary is heavily dependent on viewers for support. The more funding we receive,
00:11:34.260 the more we can do, and the deeper down the rabbit hole we can venture. There's a link to the GoFundMe
00:11:38.940 in the video description if you want to get involved. Now, a marriage pusher from the fake tradcon side
00:11:44.520 might be quick to point out that many of these people are religious in name only. The Institute
00:11:49.600 for Family Studies, which in reality is nothing more than a pro-marriage propaganda outlet masquerading
00:11:55.220 as a scholarly organization, have made great hay with the claim that regular church attendance seems
00:12:01.780 to correlate with a 50% reduction in the likelihood of divorce. In fact, this claim ties back to a 2018
00:12:08.580 Harvard study, which found that super devout Christians who attended church more than once a week
00:12:13.380 reduced their likelihood of divorce by 42%. Not those who attended once a week, and certainly not those who
00:12:19.780 attended less. Broken down, this is a 32% reduction of risk for Protestants who attended church more
00:12:25.780 than once a week, and a 54% reduction for Catholics who showed up multiple times a week. The difference
00:12:33.140 between the two largely being the greater hostility towards divorce within Catholicism. Nevertheless,
00:12:39.140 28% of super devout Protestants, 16% of super devout Catholics who attended church multiple times per
00:12:45.460 week, still ended up getting divorce. A risk of roughly one in four for Protestants and a Russian roulette risk
00:12:51.940 of one in six for Catholics. Furthermore, according to Pew data and also Lifeways research, only 12% of both
00:12:59.540 Catholics and Protestants attend church more than once per week, with most of these people being middle-aged or
00:13:04.740 older, not in their 20s and 30s. So even if men were to make the commitment of being super devout, there would be
00:13:11.700 nowhere near a large enough pool of available church girls to go out with. So despite what fake trad cons
00:13:18.020 would tell you, religiosity is hardly a solution for the male population to overcome the risks of divorce.
00:13:23.940 But as I mentioned, most members of the fake trad con could give a damn about the male population at large.
00:13:29.620 They're mostly interested in using the divorce issue as a foil for recruitment. And it goes without
00:13:34.740 saying that not all super devout women who don't believe in divorce will necessarily be all sweetness
00:13:40.260 in light after the wedding. Some men will find themselves trapped in toxic marriages with with
00:13:45.220 female religious fanatics who call all the shot are stingy with sex and weigh their husbands down with
00:13:50.820 all sorts of unreasonable demands and moral standards. Never mind the massive potential for a religious
00:13:56.660 wife to turn out to be a hypocrite. We shall probably never know what percentage of super devout
00:14:01.860 marriages are genuinely happy and what percentage are not. Since keeping up with the appearances and
00:14:07.140 keeping marital problems secret are notorious part of how super devout couples operate. But what are the
00:14:12.900 benefits of matrimony to men? Marriage advocates frequently talk about how on average married men
00:14:18.820 benefit from greater health, happiness and financial success. The US Bureau of Labor Statistics indicates
00:14:25.940 that married men earn 10 to 20% more than single ones. But please bear in mind that is largely due to a higher
00:14:33.620 financial burden placed upon a married man. Yes, there is the cost of children, but more significantly is
00:14:40.180 the average cost of materially satisfying a wife. Now part of this is evolution. Women's nesting habits
00:14:47.380 can prompt the purchase of everything from a nice house to silverware to otherwise useless throw pillows. And
00:14:54.580 part of this is social status with women being far more likely to push for luxury brands or to go on two
00:15:00.900 vacations a year. All told, a wife can quadruple a man's household expenditures. Meanwhile, a single
00:15:08.340 man can be satisfied with far fewer possessions, mostly the basic essentials, plus some recreational
00:15:14.420 purchases like TVs, game consoles and sound systems. Beyond that, the most single men are satisfied with far
00:15:22.660 less, some even being perfectly happy with a studio apartment and a mattress on the floor. In short,
00:15:27.940 married men earn 10 to 20% more money because their wives make it so they well have to. As for happiness,
00:15:35.540 the general social survey in 2022 indicated that roughly 33% more married men ticked the box for
00:15:42.660 being very happy compared to single men. And a 2019 article in the Journal of Marriage and Family found
00:15:48.820 that depression was 47% less common among married men than their single counterparts. However, that's really
00:15:55.780 not the whole picture. According to the Journal of Psychological Medicine, the 40 to 45% of married
00:16:02.820 men who get divorced see their depression rates skyrocket again by 312%, far outstripping the depression
00:16:11.300 rates seen among single men. So congrats if you're married and it works out. I'm not denying that there
00:16:17.220 are successful marriages to good women that could potentially make men happy. The point is that men today are
00:16:24.020 running a considerable risk to the tune of 40 to 45% of those attempts at happiness, blowing up in
00:16:30.740 their face and leaving them worse off than if they had just saved their money and remained single. And
00:16:35.860 it is entirely unsurprising that most troubled people in the world tend to be single. However,
00:16:41.380 if you are a single man and you don't binge drink, shoot heroin or eat like shit, but take decent care of
00:16:46.820 yourself, none of these arguments really apply to you. You'll live as long as a married man.
00:16:52.340 But how about prenups? After all, it's another way for men to reduce the risk of being financially
00:16:57.060 destroyed or having their children taken away from them in a corrupt divorce system. Some conservative
00:17:02.340 commentators like Michael Knowles discourage prenups as a safety measure altogether since,
00:17:07.060 according to him, it violates the sacrament of marriage by merely acknowledging the statistical
00:17:12.180 reality that the relationship might fail. I'm articulating the Catholic view. You know the
00:17:18.340 state of women today and men still can't get prenups to protect themselves? Right. Because
00:17:25.540 marriage in its nature, as you said, is a lifelong union of a man and a woman for the sake of begetting
00:17:30.820 and educating children and for the mutual support of the spouses. You know, they would share some
00:17:34.820 things and they would never get specific on specific people, but they would say that most of the
00:17:39.300 marriages are miserable. People are miserably married. And I think I've even heard another
00:17:43.700 guy you talked to, Tim, say something similar. FYI, there's nothing in the Bible explicitly against
00:17:49.140 prenups. This is just a rigid and somewhat reckless interpretation of theology. According to Knowles,
00:17:55.620 men just have to suck it up and leave themselves completely exposed and legally vulnerable because
00:18:02.180 God allegedly wants them to. But I suspect if the sacrament of baptism resulted in babies drowning 40
00:18:09.220 to 45% of the time, most parents would be inclined to buy their child water wings. Other conservative
00:18:15.780 commentators are more reasonable than Knowles and recognize in the modern world, prenups are a great
00:18:20.420 form of risk mitigation. According to the available data, only about 12% of prenuptial agreements are
00:18:26.260 thrown out in court. So men who take this precaution only have a one in eight chance of getting
00:18:31.940 financially obliterated and having their children stolen. At least it's slightly better odds than having a
00:18:37.860 game of Russian roulette. And I leave it up to you to decide whether or not that makes marriage low
00:18:43.220 enough of a risk to go for it. However, according to a 2022 Harris poll, only 15% of spouses across
00:18:50.660 the United States actually get prenups. And according to a 2017 Brandon Gale survey, 67% of women who are
00:18:57.700 hostile to the idea of getting one. So making a prenup a prerequisite for marriage might severely
00:19:03.940 constrict a man's dating pool and leave the majority of men out here in the cold, unable to
00:19:08.820 find a reasonable woman who recognizes the corruption of divorce courts. The truth is there is no silver
00:19:14.580 bullet that would cure men's justifiable marriage hesitancy. According to a 2023 study published by
00:19:21.860 date psychology, roughly two thirds of men seem to be entirely turned off by dating. The juice doesn't
00:19:28.580 seem to be worth the squeeze. And these men won't be coming back to the table until there's meaningful
00:19:33.620 divorce court reform or greater proportion of women learning to become wife material worthy of the
00:19:39.940 risk, preferably both. As such, if fake trad cons are generally concerned for the romantic and marital
00:19:45.780 happiness of men, and not just those men that they think they can convert, they would make a campaign
00:19:51.300 for divorce court reform their number one issue with regard to the future of the nation. Because without
00:19:57.540 men marrying, the fertility rate is going to continue to plummet to South Korea levels. Meanwhile, I
00:20:03.620 suspect that the dating situation is going to continue to deteriorate until young women realize
00:20:09.220 that their own interests are being hurt by neglecting the traits, qualities, and outlook that men
00:20:14.900 seek in romantic partners. After all, involuntary singleness and childlessness are already at epidemic
00:20:20.740 levels among Western women, and this trend is projected to continue to climb. In order for that pattern to
00:20:26.740 reverse itself, reciprocity is key. The juice must be worth the squeeze. Fake trad cons have often
00:20:33.540 tarred me with the brush of being a black pill doomer who thrives off of men being lonely and miserable,
00:20:38.660 in which case I must be doing a bad job because the majority of my single fan base report having found
00:20:45.060 peace without the risks, burdens, and inequality of a modern marriage. But for another thing that claims
00:20:51.540 simply isn't true. I just want men to be well informed and to have a clear idea of the state of the field without
00:20:58.340 being misled by those with obvious self-serving agendas. Those who want to use men as a disposable cannon fodder
00:21:06.020 in the war for their political and religious ideals. I have repeatedly said that I try not to prescribe things to men
00:21:13.300 or tell them how to live. Individual men are different, with different skills, different personalities,
00:21:18.100 different circumstances, and different women around them. If you find a woman who is loyal,
00:21:23.620 ride or die, and seems worth the risk of marriage, then go for it. Consider a prenup. But if you're a man who
00:21:30.420 wants to go his own way and you are happy and at peace alone, also go for it. If you're a man who just wants to
00:21:37.220 date, party, and have fun, as long as you aren't misleading women with false promises, I say go for
00:21:44.260 it as well. Regardless of what path you choose, I hope it is right for you and that it brings you
00:21:48.820 satisfaction and contentment. Just do it fully informed, forewarned, and forearmed, eyes open.
00:21:55.460 Thank you for watching, like the video, and we'll talk to you next time.