Pearl - June 18, 2026


How I Got Into The Redpill w⧸ Paul Elam


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Length

7 minutes

Words per minute

172.26

Word count

1,370

Sentence count

22

Harmful content

Misogyny

4

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Hate speech

4

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Transcript

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00:00:00.000 So, Pearl, what first drew you into this sort of men's space?
00:00:04.360 Now, I watched a video of yours recently where you talked about your trip out to a PUA boot camp and what that experience is like.
00:00:13.320 For people who haven't seen that, can you give us a little background on that and what that experience was like for you?
00:00:20.860 Yeah, so I've always loved media.
00:00:23.780 I'd like to say I was a consumer of the Daily Wire content when I was young.
00:00:28.340 I always say I was arguing about abortion when I was like 12 on the playground because I was I came
00:00:33.720 from a very conservative area conservative family um however you know I always just felt like
00:00:41.560 something was missing and they're like I don't know how to describe it but I always just felt
00:00:48.060 like they weren't painting the entire picture like they would say oh you know the pendulum's
00:00:52.460 gonna swing back traditionalism's gonna come back and I'm looking outside and I'm thinking
00:00:57.720 there's oars everywhere so um one of them so during covid i was kind of teaching myself how
00:01:08.040 to edit i had a little tick tock account and i was just um i don't know i was just like on youtube
00:01:15.000 like everyone was during covid right and i stumbled across a pickup artist which essentially is um i
00:01:21.720 don't know guys that learn how to seduce women essentially they do these different tricks and
00:01:28.920 honestly when i was thinking like when i was watching the videos it reminded me of sales
00:01:33.480 like you know you get a bunch of numbers you go through the numbers and so i just thought it was
00:01:38.280 really interesting so um i end up getting i getting on a flight and going to a pickup artist
00:01:44.840 like conference or boot camp i guess maybe would be the best way to describe it and there was one
00:01:49.960 guy teaching the camp or a few guys teaching and then there's like 10 guys that are there
00:01:55.000 and they're basically teaching these guys how to get laid and that's kind of where i saw the 80 20
00:01:59.800 rule uh right in my face which is that women are going for the same men because at this boot camp
00:02:04.520 one of the instructors took home like three four women in the same weekend
00:02:09.240 and actively he like he's showing me the messages has three different girlfriends while doing this
00:02:15.160 so i mean if you run those numbers he's going through like a hundred women a year and it's in
00:02:19.320 front of my face so i'm thinking okay we really are sharing men they're not making this up
00:02:26.520 um and then yeah it was kind of eye-opening because like i didn't realize at the time
00:02:33.000 that only 10 50 i'm six feet so generally i've dated my height or taller and i'm thinking wow
00:02:38.920 so any guy i date really has been in the top 15 of men for at least that category
00:02:43.720 so you don't you don't like logically um think about this stuff um i'm trying to think of what
00:02:49.480 the other lesson i learned at the boot camp was oh that the seduction stuff does kind of work because
00:02:56.440 they definitely did there's one or two guys at the camp that ended up getting laid off of the stuff 1.00
00:03:00.760 they taught them so it was like i just thought it was interesting oh third thing is that ladies
00:03:05.640 monogamy is not on the card for some guys like these guys are never going to settle down i'm 1.00
00:03:10.840 I'm telling you give it give me an estimated percentage of those guys how many what percentage
00:03:16.020 of guys do you think are just destined for short-term connections you know hookups that for
00:03:22.300 life oh I think most guys actually want to be in long-term relationships like the majority of men
00:03:28.140 that I meet I would say but out of pickup because I've met a lot of PUAs over the years um
00:03:34.420 i'd say half are cooked like they are never um half i think have the capability for monogamy
00:03:43.420 but they're always going to struggle with it because they just like a lot of these guys put
00:03:47.700 in like 10 years of learning to seduce do you know how much time that is for a man
00:03:52.640 and they've gotten really good at it because i mean men are um strategic they're smart they're
00:03:59.180 intelligent if they put 10 years into something most guys are going to be decent at it so
00:04:03.920 um it's always going to be difficult for them to like give that up that's just my personal
00:04:10.180 experience but um this is in the last like I haven't seen how these guys lives played out yet
00:04:18.040 you know it'll be interesting to see how they turn out in like 10 20 30 years maybe they'll
00:04:22.500 surprise me I don't know so you would say most of the men in the group you witnessed were actually
00:04:27.800 looking for a pair bond situation not just short-term hookups not the instructors not what
00:04:34.860 right i'm talking about the students yeah um i'd say like yeah a decent amount i would say
00:04:43.800 out of the 10 ish that were there maybe two or three kind of 2080 i guess like
00:04:49.920 eight wanted long-term and like 20% wanted short-term. Okay. Yeah. That at least makes
00:04:58.080 sense. I want to move on and talk about your work a little bit. Is there anything that surprised you
00:05:04.780 about the men who follow your work? It's always humbling to meet a lot of the men that listen to
00:05:13.360 me because a lot of them are very accomplished so like um you know when i'm hearing like a combat
00:05:21.040 veteran is like watching my show or like somebody that's really intelligent in like engineering or
00:05:26.900 like finance or something um it's just kind of humbling because i'm like who am i you guys have
00:05:32.740 these long careers you're all so intelligent um that sometimes it's like humbling the people that
00:05:37.680 watch, if that makes sense. Yeah, I get that entirely. I know that in my coaching practice
00:05:44.680 that almost all of my clients are highly successful men. Their lives just get tangled
00:05:52.080 up in this area. In every other way in life, they're doing amazingly well, very accomplished.
00:05:58.500 They make great money, but it starts falling apart when it comes to their relationships with
00:06:04.840 women. I wonder why that is. They're busy working. They don't have time. They don't have time to
00:06:10.200 approach a billionaires. But it's interesting. They still want to. You know, that still seems
00:06:17.200 to be the overarching drive in these guys. After all these conversations you've had with men,
00:06:23.520 what do you think women most misunderstand about them? I think women most misunderstand men's 0.99
00:06:31.740 desire to be respected like that they want to be respected over love because it's just so common 0.76
00:06:37.340 for women to like subtly disrespect their husbands sometimes i don't think it's malicious um but even 0.95
00:06:44.540 like how many times do women make a decision and it'll affect the couple but they don't even ask 0.51
00:06:50.300 the guy's opinion and sometimes it's malicious sometimes they just don't care but i would say
00:06:55.500 that's what women misunderstand about men is like i don't know i i see the joy in men's faces like
00:07:04.620 what the way they light up when they're asked like for their opinion on things because men really
00:07:10.380 value being respected and right like being somebody who you go to for advice or in the 0.86
00:07:16.700 decision making and a lot of women just like skip over that isn't it interesting that men do have
00:07:24.060 this high value put just on being respected not on being worshiped or idolized so much but just
00:07:32.460 being respected and that is the one thing this culture directly instructs women not to do
00:07:40.220 in relationships the standard is that you don't have to respect them and i agree with you i see
00:07:46.300 a lot of women treat their men with disrespect in a very off-handed way it's not like they're
00:07:51.740 calculating to be evil, but it's almost though they believe it's natural. 0.95