Pearl - June 18, 2026
How I Got Into The Redpill w⧸ Paul Elam
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Summary
On this episode of the Pickup Artist Podcast, I sit down with my good friend, Pearl, to talk about her experience at a "Pickup Artist" boot camp and what she's learned from her time at the camp.
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So, Pearl, what first drew you into this sort of men's space?
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Now, I watched a video of yours recently where you talked about your trip out to a PUA boot camp and what that experience is like.
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For people who haven't seen that, can you give us a little background on that and what that experience was like for you?
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I'd like to say I was a consumer of the Daily Wire content when I was young.
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I always say I was arguing about abortion when I was like 12 on the playground because I was I came
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from a very conservative area conservative family um however you know I always just felt like
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something was missing and they're like I don't know how to describe it but I always just felt
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like they weren't painting the entire picture like they would say oh you know the pendulum's
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gonna swing back traditionalism's gonna come back and I'm looking outside and I'm thinking
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there's oars everywhere so um one of them so during covid i was kind of teaching myself how
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to edit i had a little tick tock account and i was just um i don't know i was just like on youtube
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like everyone was during covid right and i stumbled across a pickup artist which essentially is um i
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don't know guys that learn how to seduce women essentially they do these different tricks and
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honestly when i was thinking like when i was watching the videos it reminded me of sales
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like you know you get a bunch of numbers you go through the numbers and so i just thought it was
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really interesting so um i end up getting i getting on a flight and going to a pickup artist
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like conference or boot camp i guess maybe would be the best way to describe it and there was one
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guy teaching the camp or a few guys teaching and then there's like 10 guys that are there
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and they're basically teaching these guys how to get laid and that's kind of where i saw the 80 20
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rule uh right in my face which is that women are going for the same men because at this boot camp
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one of the instructors took home like three four women in the same weekend
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and actively he like he's showing me the messages has three different girlfriends while doing this
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so i mean if you run those numbers he's going through like a hundred women a year and it's in
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front of my face so i'm thinking okay we really are sharing men they're not making this up
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um and then yeah it was kind of eye-opening because like i didn't realize at the time
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that only 10 50 i'm six feet so generally i've dated my height or taller and i'm thinking wow
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so any guy i date really has been in the top 15 of men for at least that category
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so you don't you don't like logically um think about this stuff um i'm trying to think of what
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the other lesson i learned at the boot camp was oh that the seduction stuff does kind of work because
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they definitely did there's one or two guys at the camp that ended up getting laid off of the stuff
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they taught them so it was like i just thought it was interesting oh third thing is that ladies
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monogamy is not on the card for some guys like these guys are never going to settle down i'm
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I'm telling you give it give me an estimated percentage of those guys how many what percentage
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of guys do you think are just destined for short-term connections you know hookups that for
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life oh I think most guys actually want to be in long-term relationships like the majority of men
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that I meet I would say but out of pickup because I've met a lot of PUAs over the years um
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i'd say half are cooked like they are never um half i think have the capability for monogamy
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but they're always going to struggle with it because they just like a lot of these guys put
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in like 10 years of learning to seduce do you know how much time that is for a man
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and they've gotten really good at it because i mean men are um strategic they're smart they're
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intelligent if they put 10 years into something most guys are going to be decent at it so
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um it's always going to be difficult for them to like give that up that's just my personal
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experience but um this is in the last like I haven't seen how these guys lives played out yet
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you know it'll be interesting to see how they turn out in like 10 20 30 years maybe they'll
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surprise me I don't know so you would say most of the men in the group you witnessed were actually
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looking for a pair bond situation not just short-term hookups not the instructors not what
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right i'm talking about the students yeah um i'd say like yeah a decent amount i would say
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out of the 10 ish that were there maybe two or three kind of 2080 i guess like
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eight wanted long-term and like 20% wanted short-term. Okay. Yeah. That at least makes
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sense. I want to move on and talk about your work a little bit. Is there anything that surprised you
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about the men who follow your work? It's always humbling to meet a lot of the men that listen to
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me because a lot of them are very accomplished so like um you know when i'm hearing like a combat
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veteran is like watching my show or like somebody that's really intelligent in like engineering or
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like finance or something um it's just kind of humbling because i'm like who am i you guys have
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these long careers you're all so intelligent um that sometimes it's like humbling the people that
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watch, if that makes sense. Yeah, I get that entirely. I know that in my coaching practice
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that almost all of my clients are highly successful men. Their lives just get tangled
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up in this area. In every other way in life, they're doing amazingly well, very accomplished.
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They make great money, but it starts falling apart when it comes to their relationships with
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women. I wonder why that is. They're busy working. They don't have time. They don't have time to
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approach a billionaires. But it's interesting. They still want to. You know, that still seems
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to be the overarching drive in these guys. After all these conversations you've had with men,
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what do you think women most misunderstand about them? I think women most misunderstand men's
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desire to be respected like that they want to be respected over love because it's just so common
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for women to like subtly disrespect their husbands sometimes i don't think it's malicious um but even
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like how many times do women make a decision and it'll affect the couple but they don't even ask
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the guy's opinion and sometimes it's malicious sometimes they just don't care but i would say
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that's what women misunderstand about men is like i don't know i i see the joy in men's faces like
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what the way they light up when they're asked like for their opinion on things because men really
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value being respected and right like being somebody who you go to for advice or in the
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decision making and a lot of women just like skip over that isn't it interesting that men do have
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this high value put just on being respected not on being worshiped or idolized so much but just
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being respected and that is the one thing this culture directly instructs women not to do
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in relationships the standard is that you don't have to respect them and i agree with you i see
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a lot of women treat their men with disrespect in a very off-handed way it's not like they're
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calculating to be evil, but it's almost though they believe it's natural.
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