Pearl - July 04, 2026


I Asked BAPTISTS Now If Women Should Obey


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00:00:00.000 Yeah, but if women's jobs disappeared tomorrow, society would function fine. 1.00
00:00:05.460 I don't know if I agree with that at all. 1.00
00:00:07.340 I don't feel like we should, um, that women should have to obey anybody, um. 0.98
00:00:14.540 Do you want to answer the question?
00:00:16.260 Um, let me go verify.
00:00:17.600 Are you the pastor?
00:00:18.500 Oh, that's you, the perfect person to talk to.
00:00:20.280 Yeah, let me come out in a little bit.
00:00:21.620 Let me make sure everything is taken care of inside.
00:00:23.620 Yeah, okay.
00:00:24.260 Okay?
00:00:24.520 That'd be great.
00:00:24.920 So, yeah.
00:00:27.180 What's up, guys?
00:00:28.020 Welcome to my YouTube channel today. We are asking the Baptists what they believe about 0.73
00:00:33.620 obedience. So should Christian women obey their husbands? Let's see what the Baptists have to say. 0.99
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00:00:58.020 Hi, how's it going?
00:00:59.140 Hey, you're doing well.
00:00:59.860 What's up with all you guys?
00:01:01.060 I'm Pearl.
00:01:01.940 Hi, Pearl.
00:01:02.580 Nice to meet you.
00:01:03.360 I'm Jordan.
00:01:03.660 Nice to meet you.
00:01:04.500 So we go to different churches trying to figure out what they believe about obedience,
00:01:08.120 because the purpose is just to figure out what people believe, no right or wrong answers.
00:01:12.880 And so we just go to different churches on Sunday and ask.
00:01:15.720 Okay.
00:01:16.260 So I'd love to get you...
00:01:16.620 Do you stay set up the whole time, or how are you...
00:01:19.280 Yeah, we just stay from, like, usually 10 to 12, the one.
00:01:22.880 Okay.
00:01:23.220 um and so i mean i don't mind talking to you but it feels a hair kind of gotcha it feels like what
00:01:30.140 we're trying to do okay and so i would prefer just as it we have a lot of new people coming
00:01:35.500 right now that we don't just kind of try to send them away or or try to force them into something
00:01:40.800 oh yeah we don't force anybody um first amendment does protect uh freedom of speech so we can't get
00:01:46.180 some public property okay this would be private property though not the sidewalk okay yeah sidewalk
00:01:51.580 is public it's a one-party consent state in texas yeah so it's our first amendment right but you see
00:01:56.340 how we're already trying to be comfortable where i was willing to talk with you but now yeah we're
00:01:59.880 willing to argue no i'm not trying to argue with you i'm just letting you know okay yeah so so could
00:02:04.740 we could we find a place that maybe is a little more appropriate for where we are because this
00:02:08.820 is where if you can see the birds coming in we're going to have a lot of people trying to walk
00:02:12.240 through there can we maybe step down there where those yellow and red signs are uh yeah that's
00:02:17.440 fine okay no problem yeah let's just uh move down there today and anybody that wants to stop with
00:02:21.460 you is welcome to. Okay. Do you want to answer the question? Are you the pastor? Oh, that's
00:02:27.320 you the perfect person to talk to. Yeah. Let me come out in a little bit. Let me make sure
00:02:30.540 everything is taken care of inside. Yeah. Okay. That'd be great. So yeah. So do you believe
00:02:34.900 that Christian women should obey their husbands? If yes or no, tell us why or why not? Depends 1.00
00:02:40.180 entirely what you mean by obey. Okay. Because that's completely the only word doing any work
00:02:47.180 in that sentence. Okay. So what do you mean by obey? Um, to listen to, submit to, um, you know,
00:02:54.220 you obey your boss. If your boss tells you to do something, you do it. Interesting.
00:03:04.240 I'm going to give you a real answer, but why is that the question you want to ask?
00:03:08.280 Because I want to know the answer. Okay. That's fair. Um, you know, I think it's really easy to
00:03:15.940 make it into a kind of trick question or a got you moment um do i think there is a
00:03:26.360 legal or moral obligation for a christian woman to listen to what her husband says
00:03:35.260 on the mere peer merit of he's her husband no okay if that makes sense so there is not
00:03:42.800 But we would not say that there is any kind of requirement or expectation
00:03:47.480 for a Christian woman to obey her husband just raw.
00:03:54.560 It would depend on the context of what is being asked, if that makes sense.
00:03:58.780 So if he's asking her to do something that is harmful to herself
00:04:02.400 or something that goes against what she thinks is a faithful following of God,
00:04:06.720 she does not have an obligation to follow that.
00:04:08.500 Why is that the first place your mind goes,
00:04:11.140 like he's going to ask her something immoral is that common for men to even do that not at all
00:04:16.660 but that's kind of what's set up by the question because if the question is for christian women
00:04:20.980 obey their husbands then the question is it's it's kind of begging that question of
00:04:29.620 because the thing you think about it like this if my if my wife says hey can you take out the
00:04:33.780 trash please it's you know maybe i'm playing with the words a little bit but it is an active
00:04:39.540 then obedience for me to go say absolutely i'll take out the trash if i ask my wife hey would you
00:04:44.220 mind running a load of laundry while you're home today she says yes i'm happy to do that and so
00:04:48.080 obviously there's still a either one of us is choosing to respond to that request but it also
00:04:53.200 is a form of obedience because we also one of the famous bible verses that talks about uh the
00:04:58.860 marital relationship right after it describes the role of a man and a woman before that it says
00:05:04.540 submit to each other so there it's not so black and white as one obeys the other always without
00:05:09.680 question right but you know with the two people there's bound to be disagreements and somebody's
00:05:14.720 got to have the final say you know um i use trump and vance as an example so if vance um came in
00:05:22.680 and started nagging trump about chores um i think trump would be kind of pissed i would love if that 0.99
00:05:27.320 yeah but yeah so you know in a household is it really a woman's uh place to you know she would
00:05:33.980 never tell her boss what to do why is it okay for her to tell her husband what to do because it's
00:05:38.320 not the same type of relationship at all like the relationship is based first on mutual love and
00:05:44.740 respect for each other um that's flowing from our love for god and the love he's shown us so that's
00:05:52.480 where the relationship is founded on um versus i wouldn't say that my boss and i's first relationship
00:05:58.160 is on mutual love and respect there's mutual respect for sure and there is mutual love what's
00:06:02.440 more important to men love or respect probably depends on the guy right in terms of like what
00:06:08.940 is personally more impactful for him um for me i would say i would lean more towards the love side
00:06:16.780 um yeah but i think it would depend on who who you would ask so is it a woman's role to decide
00:06:23.780 if her husband's following god or not i mean to an extent yes i mean not to like
00:06:30.720 not as if there's no no other person even an even a person's spouse can like fully know what's going
00:06:38.200 on in someone's heart and mind right um so not to an 100 extent extent but absolutely the one
00:06:44.880 part of the roles of spouses is to help is for us to help each other follow god as faithfully as we
00:06:49.720 can so for my wife to say hey i've noticed that you haven't been reading the bible as consistently
00:06:55.200 or i you haven't been praying you haven't been leading us to pray as consistently like that is
00:06:59.640 and and to answer your question fully like yeah in that sense she is absolutely
00:07:04.300 not deciding if i'm following god at all but how faithfully i'm doing so and helping me to
00:07:09.060 helping me to follow more faithfully okay but isn't that giving um like bosses more authority
00:07:14.660 over your wife than they're like in in that case like don't the women respect their bosses more
00:07:21.260 than their husbands um sorry i get so distracted it's okay it's hot out it's hot out um
00:07:28.820 again it's not
00:07:30.920 I don't know
00:07:31.800 the way
00:07:32.220 the way that I look
00:07:33.080 at the world
00:07:33.380 is not like
00:07:34.180 this battle
00:07:35.960 of who has more
00:07:36.560 authority over who
00:07:37.420 you know
00:07:38.200 um
00:07:39.360 but it's realistic
00:07:40.420 right
00:07:40.820 somebody
00:07:41.480 there's a reason
00:07:42.220 we have phrases
00:07:42.740 like who wears
00:07:43.360 the pants
00:07:43.940 yeah for sure
00:07:44.940 and again I mean
00:07:46.260 oh
00:07:47.400 I'm sorry
00:07:48.020 I'm just going to do it
00:07:48.700 for the monster
00:07:49.200 oh
00:07:49.900 that's around the
00:07:50.940 back side of the
00:07:51.480 building
00:07:51.740 if you're looking
00:07:52.480 for them
00:07:52.880 but the uh
00:07:56.440 yes I guess 1.00
00:07:58.160 if you want to say like but again by the same token does the wife care more about her job than 0.99
00:08:05.500 her husband because she spends more of her time at work than at home most days if she works and
00:08:08.960 if they both work you know what i mean so like sure you can say you can play the game of oh this
00:08:14.060 person quote has more authority over you than this person but again if they're if the if the
00:08:19.100 marriage is based on mutual love and respect and they're both trying to faithfully follow god as
00:08:21.980 well as they can that's just not gonna be an issue it won't it's gonna be perfect there's never gonna
00:08:26.960 be an issue? Not at all. Of course, there's still going to be problems. But going back to what you
00:08:31.640 said earlier, I never answered. What if there's disagreement? Who decides? I'm very young. My
00:08:37.340 wife and I have only been married for two years. I've known so many Christian couples when both
00:08:42.700 are doing their best to follow God in a moment. And they're willing to take advice from outside
00:08:50.740 the marriage as well from other faithful Christians. I've never seen it. I've never
00:08:55.100 heard of a single situation where a couple has not been able to come to an agreement okay so
00:08:58.700 actually that leads me to my next question so do you do counseling then every once in a while what
00:09:03.880 would you advise a woman to do if her husband and you disagree if her husband and me disagree yeah
00:09:09.180 so let's say let's say you there's a couple they're getting counseling from the pastor
00:09:13.200 and the pastor you say one thing the husband vehemently disagrees with you and it's not
00:09:20.320 clear-cut it's not a clear-cut biblical answer right but maybe it's parenting style the pastor
00:09:26.520 says he's too strict the husband says i'm not too strict something like that that's not a black and
00:09:31.560 white answer yeah who would you advise the woman to listen to are they both members of the church
00:09:36.520 or yeah they're both no they're both members of of your church here and he goes to the church he
00:09:42.080 just says no two men always agree on everything right yeah ever ever in life i've never met two
00:09:47.800 100 so if they're going to be here 20 30 years you know people are going to want to know who
00:09:53.100 should the wife listen to you the pastor or the husband absolutely um so if they're both church
00:09:59.500 members that's going to create a whole different situation that's why i asked i'll answer both
00:10:03.280 situations if they're both church members then and i want to this you say this very carefully
00:10:08.200 and i'll explain myself then they're both are quote under the authority of that church and
00:10:12.520 its leadership so in that scenario it's less of an issue of and it doesn't mean we tell them how
00:10:18.060 to parent it doesn't mean that we say you give this money you give this money it's not like that
00:10:21.040 at all especially our denomination but what it does mean is there is a level of the church
00:10:28.320 leadership has the authority to speak into lives especially when people are asking for that advice
00:10:33.240 and for that asking for to receive comments on that and if it comes down to a situation where
00:10:38.740 the husband says you know i'm not doing that screw that i'm not listening um then at some
00:10:44.920 point you have to make a choice of then my my counsel to the to the wife would be at some point
00:10:50.860 you have to make a choice of is this a hill you're willing to die on is it something that's that
00:10:54.440 important to you where you have to continue this or can you choose or are you is it something that
00:11:01.600 we can not give up on but lessen our stance on to to maintain peace and unity in the home
00:11:07.940 And same thing to a husband if his wife is adamant about homeschool or adamant about something else.
00:11:12.760 But end of the day, who does she listen to?
00:11:14.880 Pastor, husband. 0.90
00:11:15.860 There's no middle ground.
00:11:17.000 She's got to pick one.
00:11:21.820 She has to make a choice that leads to the most peace and unity in her life.
00:11:25.940 And so if that means that if it comes down to it and the husband won't listen,
00:11:29.600 we're going to continue to work on that because there's probably something in his heart that he's struggling with.
00:11:33.780 So we're going to continue to work on that.
00:11:35.220 But in the meantime, it would come down to the unity and peace in the home rather than with a church leadership.
00:11:43.360 Okay, so you would say husband.
00:11:45.020 Yeah.
00:11:45.460 Okay.
00:11:46.240 How do you guys feel about female-led Bible studies here and women in leadership?
00:11:50.000 We love it.
00:11:50.960 So we have multiple female-led Bible studies.
00:11:54.420 We have women teach our Sunday school classes.
00:11:57.840 We have every expression of leadership that we have is filled by men and women.
00:12:05.220 isn't that against the church's teachings on women not being able to teach isn't that and
00:12:11.140 this is a disagreement some churches say yes some say no so the only okay um
00:12:17.720 that the interpretation of that verse is extremely fraught and i don't i don't have
00:12:23.120 time for it because our service is about to start okay um but our stance as our church comes down to
00:12:28.440 if it is not expressly prohibited for women to do something clearly in scripture
00:12:34.660 uh we lose out if we do not involve them in that because we lose out on their gifts and talents
00:12:39.880 so the only scenario where we um the only scenarios where we restrict anyone from serving
00:12:48.360 in any type of way or leading any type of way is where we feel the bible is extremely
00:12:52.420 unquestionably clear and we do not feel it is extremely unquestionably clear on women teaching
00:12:57.960 what is the misinterpretation of the like what what is the way that people um think it's
00:13:03.100 interpreted and how is it actually interpreted the people the most common interpretation
00:13:08.640 on the more conservative theological side which we are definitely on but the most common one on
00:13:13.180 our side is it is women should not be speaking in front of any mixed gender gathering of adults 0.97
00:13:18.800 okay um we really feel that we really only limit we only limit what women can serve and lead in 0.94
00:13:25.860 and it's not only women it's also we only use what we call qualified men in this role which
00:13:31.140 they fulfill the category set out in the scripture is for things that what the Bible calls elder
00:13:35.460 roles. So anything that an elder, which would be the highest leadership position in the church
00:13:39.720 would do, we believe that the Bible teaches that that is only for qualified men. So that excludes
00:13:44.500 the majority of men and women from that, from that leadership role. So it's just like the highest,
00:13:49.000 it's just the highest leadership role here, but the lower ones, the women can do. Is that what 1.00
00:13:53.440 you're saying? Well, any less qualified, it's less about lower. It's not about lower and just about
00:13:58.880 differently so like when the apostles in the beginning of the early church they make they
00:14:03.480 they form the deacons it's not a the deacons are less important it's the deacons are for this
00:14:08.560 specific role we have this specific role so the roles that are specific to specific to being an
00:14:13.900 elder are the only then things that are set apart but then again it's more about being qualified as
00:14:19.980 an elder and less about gender because the my the biggest problem i think we have in the church is
00:14:25.020 unqualified men in the elder role not women trying to get into the elder role that's not
00:14:28.740 my perception at all you sure yes 100 the women are the ones bringing the gay flags in church
00:14:34.480 not in our church i'm not i'm not saying it's your church but just in general that's not men
00:14:40.160 well again you have to i do these interviews all the time if it's an all-female congregation
00:14:44.360 it's almost guaranteed gay flags really where uh the last one was london okay well yeah i mean 0.90
00:14:51.860 That's true. 1.00
00:14:53.060 For me, you have to separate out mainline Protestant denominations. 0.92
00:14:57.360 Which one was the one in London?
00:14:58.500 What denomination was it?
00:14:59.280 Yeah, what denomination was that?
00:15:00.200 What?
00:15:00.800 Methodist. 0.98
00:15:01.280 Yeah, so you have to separate out mainline Protestants. 0.93
00:15:04.440 So Methodists, a lot of your Presbyterians, 0.67
00:15:07.300 because they've completely given up on the majority of clear Bible teaching
00:15:14.180 that the church has believed for 2,000 years.
00:15:15.960 So, again
00:15:18.040 It comes down
00:15:21.040 I would have to meet with them individually to see what they believe
00:15:23.380 But a lot of the scenarios, those people aren't going to meet
00:15:25.400 What the Bible says a Christian is anyway 1.00
00:15:26.980 So they're welcome to claim it
00:15:29.380 It's America, it's a free country
00:15:30.840 But if you claim Christianity and then don't
00:15:33.560 Match up with what the Bible says a Christian is
00:15:36.000 I can't say for anybody else whether they're saved or not 0.74
00:15:39.860 But they have to deal with that 0.84
00:15:40.780 How is gay marriage any different than saying a man and a woman
00:15:43.840 Has equal authority in a relationship?
00:15:45.960 it's extremely different um because again because you're saying they're like doing the same roles
00:15:52.100 essentially they have equal authority no not at all not here at least i'm not saying here so but
00:15:59.820 i'm trying to understand what your view on yeah so again the there is a like the to the core of
00:16:08.640 the question yes there is an authority difference um and there is a role difference 100 without
00:16:15.060 question because you talk more about what it is uh sure so in the and uh we think that the bible
00:16:21.620 is only clear that there is an authority and role difference in the church and in the home
00:16:24.580 outside of those two places the bible has nothing to say about role or authority differences
00:16:29.460 in the church again it comes down to we think that the bible is clear that for the role of elder and
00:16:35.300 for the roles that the elders carry out um there is only hey god good morning there is only the
00:16:43.140 The only people that are eligible for that role are qualified men, so that does exclude women.
00:16:47.280 And so the roles and the authority that comes with that is excluded.
00:16:50.580 And then same thing in the home, there is an authority difference and there is a role difference.
00:16:55.120 Okay. 0.66
00:16:56.960 Do you think men and women are equal? 0.89
00:16:59.480 Absolutely.
00:17:00.600 Made in God's image, worthy of the same respect, dignity, and love.
00:17:04.400 Then why can't women and men do the same things?
00:17:08.320 Because equal in worth, dignity, and love is not the same as equal in role.
00:17:12.640 My child, if I have a child, he's equal and worth dignity and love to me,
00:17:16.020 but his role is not the same in the home.
00:17:17.600 It does not diminish who that child is as a person in the slightest.
00:17:21.520 Do you believe in the natural order of the world, God, men, women, children?
00:17:26.340 That depends what you mean by the natural order of the world.
00:17:29.280 Because, you know, remember I said we think the Bible is only clear
00:17:31.840 about differences of authority and role in the church and the home.
00:17:34.420 Okay.
00:17:35.100 Not in a broader society.
00:17:36.560 But, you know, just looking around, men are building everything, 0.54
00:17:39.760 inventing, doing everything pretty much. 1.00
00:17:42.080 What are women really doing in society? 1.00
00:17:46.900 That's a lot nowadays 1.00
00:17:48.440 Like what?
00:17:50.040 My wife works in finance 1.00
00:17:51.520 Managing and investing a ton of money 1.00
00:17:55.080 And making money for that
00:17:59.180 That helps society, I believe 1.00
00:18:00.880 Yeah, but if women's jobs disappeared tomorrow 1.00
00:18:03.800 Society would function fine 1.00
00:18:05.900 I don't know if I agree with that at all
00:18:08.220 It's not whether you agree or disagree
00:18:09.960 It's simply true
00:18:11.820 because if you look at the infrastructure jobs men do pretty much all of them if you say and
00:18:16.500 saying the world would function fine is disingenuous because nursing would collapse
00:18:19.280 overnight education would collapse overnight so maybe the world would function i'm from chicago
00:18:23.600 people are graduating high school and they can't read i understand so it's not like i understand
00:18:27.640 but like to say that it's like sure maybe the power would be on but the society would collapse 0.68
00:18:33.220 you don't think you don't think men could learn to teach absolutely they could but they're not
00:18:37.880 right now and you're saying that it would be fine we cannot we would not be able to fill the gap in
00:18:41.660 And at least those two fields.
00:18:42.960 But literacy rates were higher when men were mostly teachers. 0.99
00:18:45.800 So actually since women have taken over the industry, education's actually gone downhill. 0.98
00:18:50.040 That's not because... 0.99
00:18:51.200 I would strongly disagree with that being because it is women teaching instead of men.
00:18:56.260 Because we also believe there's equal competency between men and women.
00:18:59.520 You think they're equally competent?
00:19:01.400 And as a general rule... 1.00
00:19:03.120 Well then why haven't women invented anything? 1.00
00:19:05.420 Women have invented plenty of things. 1.00
00:19:06.940 No, they haven't. 1.00
00:19:08.120 It's just not true.
00:19:09.040 Like, men have invented, like, 90-plus percent of the world's inventions were men. 0.84
00:19:13.820 Yeah, because for 90% of human history, the women have been exclusively mothers and homemakers. 0.72
00:19:20.060 Not necessarily. The last 100 years, though. 0.57
00:19:22.700 For 90% of human history, the last 100 years. 0.87
00:19:24.360 Right, but I'm saying the last 100 years, men, like, women have had the option if they want to invent things, but we just can't do it. 0.81
00:19:31.220 Even with all the scholarships.
00:19:33.220 100 years is still a stretch, too, because realistically 100 years ago.
00:19:36.780 That's my entire lifetime.
00:19:38.040 I graduated with people that invented things
00:19:40.700 You know what I mean?
00:19:41.660 Yeah
00:19:41.840 Yeah, so
00:19:42.560 It's like
00:19:43.500 That's a whole lifetime to do it
00:19:45.400 Yeah
00:19:45.820 You gotta go?
00:19:48.920 Yeah, I gotta go
00:19:49.600 Okay, well
00:19:50.200 Have a good Mass
00:19:51.120 Yeah
00:19:51.500 Thanks for doing it
00:19:52.360 I appreciate it
00:19:53.080 Yeah, absolutely
00:19:53.520 We do a channel around the word obedience
00:19:56.380 And we want to know what you guys believe here 0.99
00:19:58.540 If Christian women should or shouldn't obey their husbands 0.90
00:20:01.700 No right or wrong answers 1.00
00:20:03.240 Just tell us why or why not
00:20:04.700 um i feel like the word obey can be taken a lot of different ways um i think as a christian woman
00:20:14.920 um god does put the husband you know as the leader of the house um i know for me personally
00:20:22.880 i wouldn't say i obey my husband i do like submit to him just because that's what the bible tells
00:20:30.120 me to do. But as far as my marriage personally, I mean, we're very much on equal footing. So
00:20:36.340 how long have you been married? I have been married 26 years. And what would be your advice
00:20:40.860 to women when it comes to obedience and marriage and submitting to their husband? How can they do 0.72
00:20:45.960 it? I feel like you have to put God at the center of your marriage, of your household. And I feel
00:20:53.640 like if you do that, then everything else just falls into place. Communication is key. Prayer
00:20:58.520 is key. I pray with my spouse every day. We read the Bible every day. Um, I just feel like if God
00:21:04.680 is at the center, then, you know, it becomes easier to submit because when you first get
00:21:09.680 married, it was very difficult. What were some of the difficulties in early marriage?
00:21:14.480 Um, as far as the submission, um, I mean, I don't know, like just agreeing on like finances,
00:21:26.040 agreeing on you know how you're going to raise your children um so I feel like a lot of it is
00:21:31.960 just respect you know he respects my values my opinions I respect his um but the submission I
00:21:38.840 think gets easier the longer you do stay married so if the pastor and your husband disagree
00:21:44.860 who would you hypothetically listen to if you're the pastor has one opinion for sure my husband
00:21:51.480 for sure, because I don't have a, you know, covenant of marriage with the pastor. I have
00:21:56.140 a covenant of marriage with my husband. So do you believe that Christian women should obey their 1.00
00:22:00.160 husbands? Why or why not? And tell us your opinion. I don't really know. I don't really know how to 1.00
00:22:09.840 answer this. Um, I don't feel like we should, um, that women should have to obey anybody. Um, 0.98
00:22:17.860 no matter what, if they're their husband or I just feel like we should be asking or believing,
00:22:27.380 trusting in God. So if somebody, if your husband asked you to do something that you feel like is
00:22:32.240 against God, that you wouldn't obey them. So assuming that he's following God, would you
00:22:39.280 then obey him i would ask um i don't know it's it's hard for me to answer that i don't know
00:22:53.080 that's a very big conflict um do you believe because some we go to a lot of different churches
00:22:58.000 and they have different beliefs so uh do you some churches think maybe it's like a misinterpretation
00:23:04.380 of those bible verses um others you know they think it's not in there so what are your beliefs
00:23:10.660 around like submitting and gender relations i just feel like yeah times have changed and we
00:23:18.160 probably should just not read so much into that portion like just trying to nitpick it but we do
00:23:28.360 like women you know equal rights we should be able to have the ability to think for ourselves but
00:23:33.300 to try to also like you know put your trust in God not just your husband so you're gonna be um 1.00
00:23:40.220 so do you think what do you think about um so when women are employed they listen to their bosses and 1.00
00:23:47.480 in essence do have to submit to them to some degree why is it that bosses get more submission 0.99
00:23:53.260 and obedience than husbands I don't know I don't know how to answer that one yeah if you don't know 0.58
00:24:01.920 you could just say you don't know yeah I don't know um yeah well she says for history but um
00:24:07.660 for history yeah um for me I I'm a teacher so my bosses are women so to me that's like a really
00:24:14.200 big difference yeah but I think it's more the concept like I used to work in sales
00:24:19.180 and if my boss said we would there be a disagreement between calling and door-to-door
00:24:25.300 I like door-to-door he liked calls and it didn't matter I had to do the calls right it didn't
00:24:30.320 matter what I thought because I was his subordinate. So in essence, like somebody that gives us a
00:24:37.100 paycheck gets more respect a lot of times than our boyfriends or husbands. And I guess what's
00:24:43.800 your thoughts on that? Do you think that's right? There's no right or wrong. It's just like
00:24:49.100 different opinions. Some people like more egalitarian. Some people don't. I guess I'm
00:24:55.000 more of a free thinker so it's hard for me um to shed light in that area but i think that yeah i
00:25:02.760 kind of you know go to the beat of my own drum so i don't really submit i think to my husband or to
00:25:10.320 my bosses i kind of figure out how to do it so if they say teach the kids this way you get to say
00:25:18.180 i'm doing it my way yes oh wow yeah that's a lot more authority than most people get at their jobs
00:25:23.560 right it's good to have flexibility yeah okay so what do you guys think about female-led bible
00:25:29.300 studies are those okay here yeah yeah yes okay what about females in leadership is that okay
00:25:35.420 or not okay it should be yeah it is okay it is okay yeah um what do you go to church for
00:25:41.720 um a connection not just to god but to other people my daughter for her to see um what it's
00:25:53.780 like besides just out there in the world are you would you be okay with a female pastor
00:26:00.440 yeah church you'd be all right yeah okay we love that yeah go and do that cool thank you so much
00:26:07.820 I appreciate it.