Pearl - July 16, 2026I Asked Traditional Catholics Whether Or Not Women Should Obey
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In this episode, we talk to Catholic women at the Catholic Mater Dei Parish in Dallas, TX about what they believe about obeying their husbands. Do you think Christian women should obey their husbands? Why or why not?
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And we pray that our Father to deliver us from temptation and free us from evil for that exact
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reason. So there's a lot of religious guys that watch the channel. Do you want to give your
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Instagram? Maybe some of them are interested. You never know. No, thank you. I'm not interested
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in any of you. I know you're not in favor, but I'm asking if the church doesn't require young
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marriage, then wouldn't you say it's requiring morality for one gender and not the other?
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How would a church require young marriage? There's a mutual submission
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that the Catholic Church teaches. What's up, guys? Today, we are at the Catholic
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Mater Dei Parish out here in Dallas, asking the Catholic women here what they believe about
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obedience. Should Christian women, or in this case, Catholic women, obey their husbands? Yes,
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no, why or why not? Also, if you can, fill out the Google form that's in the description.
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So when we are in your city for a live show, we can notify you that we are there. Like the video,
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Let's get started. Do you want to answer the sign? We're trying to figure out what you guys
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believe here. You got two minutes to tell us? There's no right or wrong answers. We're just
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trying to figure out what people believe about obedience because we go to different churches
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every week and just ask people what they believe. So do you guys believe here that Christian women
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should obey their husbands? Tell me yes, no, and why or why not? Yes. And the reason is because it
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It is God's calling for the woman to submit to their husband.
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And in the first place, it is a woman's choice.
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She chooses who she wants to marry and whose name she wants to carry.
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And with that being said, if she made the right choice and was anointed with God, then
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And if he is consecrated with the Holy Spirit and he is anointed and he chooses to walk
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daily in his act with God, then his wife should trust in him 100%. And vice versa. She should be
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his fortress of solitude, and she should always pray for him, even in the most difficult times.
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When the devil tries to tear apart marriages, because he will try to come between husband and
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wife, you're called to pray and to stay together. So how long have you been practicing here?
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This is my third year practicing here at Mater Dei Latin Mass Parish.
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Prior to practicing my faith here, I was a part of Novus Ordo churches.
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We attended St. Elizabeth Hungary of Dallas, and nothing against that church,
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and I'm consecrated with the Holy Ghost to come to church every Sunday, so I definitely feel the
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presence here. So what would you do if the priest and your husband disagreed? So, and it's not a
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cut and, the first answer I always get, I'll just preface, is that we listen to the Bible, but let's
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say it's not cut and dry because there are instances where there's not a cut and dry answer,
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right? And the priest says what, like, let's say parenting style. The priest says one thing and
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your husband says another who are you listening to I would definitely take the priests the priests
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whatever the priest recommends to heart only because he speaks through the father the son
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and the holy ghost and to listen to father's guidance is listening to God's guidance and with
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God's guidance to pray for your husband so that he may be redirected if there is a miscalculation
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that we are all human and we're called to pray for each other, but listening to the Father is not
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dismissing your husband in any way. So wouldn't you say then the priest has more authority than
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the husband? In that, yes, the priest is always going to have authority over husband and wife.
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He is the one that is anointing the husband and wife. So with that being said, the husband should
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work diligently with the wife to stay in step with God. So is there a push here to get married and
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have kids young or do they say to do it on your own timeline? Like what is the, I guess, thoughts
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around that? In God's timing, I believe you could get married at 50 years old and have your first
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child. You could get married at 30 years old and have your first child, maybe even at 18 and have
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your first child, but God doesn't push you to marriage. In fact, marriage is one of the more
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complicated things in this world. God actually does call you to practice celibacy if you choose
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a life of singledom, and if your higher calling is not to be a wife and have children, God understands
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your heart and your posture, but he does want you to act in the state of celibacy and to not give
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yourself to anyone if you are for God. Does that mean the majority of women here are virgins like
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are waiting for marriage? Either they are virgins or they may be born again in the sense that they
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have already come to God and asked for forgiveness for their past mistakes or missteps when they were
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maybe not guided by God but by this world and giving in to their bodily desires. But God has
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forgiveness for all men and women who take those missteps and if you were miscalculated at any
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given time in your life there's always a chance to turn it around and be born again and for christ
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don't you think that's requiring morality from the men and not the women because usually like
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if you go to churches the woman didn't have to wait till marriage but the man usually did
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yeah that's very interesting that you say that um there was a story that i recently heard where a
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woman, had several partners and became engaged. And when she was engaged, maybe she was flooded
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by the Holy Spirit, maybe by the evil spirit, but she chose to marry a man who was in fact
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devout to Christ and he was celibate. And she did a grievous sin by lying to him or omitting
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information that she had in fact had maybe one or maybe several partners. And not because of
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her sin did he choose to kill her that was an act um of the devil he killed her yes oh i thought
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you were talking about a different story okay no in this story um the man chose to kill his wife
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and i know that marriage is till death do you part but may god have mercy on his soul for choosing to
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cast down a woman who may not have been in the state of grace to ask for god's forgiveness
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he chose to do this on their honeymoon and she chose to relay this information on their honeymoon
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and that is the spirit of evil I will say because the devil does come to divide husband and wife
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and a husband is called to understand his wife and whether you make that mistake from your past
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going forward it should be forgiven but for some reason the evil spirit held a hold of him
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So as a husband, he's not always right to do what he does, but may God have mercy on them both.
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Do you think that virginity should be required from women for marriage?
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Like, why is a woman wearing white, I guess, if she's not a virgin on her wedding day?
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Well, it's supposed to signal purity, you know, and like, if you threw it back for like two or three other guys, you know, it's not really.
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Understand, understand. But whenever it comes to wearing white, it's a signal of purity from this day going forward that you choose to cast out all other mates. And we pray that our Father to deliver us from temptation and free us from evil for that exact reason.
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So there's a lot of religious guys that watch the channel. Do you want to give your Instagram? Maybe some of them are interested. You never know.
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No, thank you. I'm not interested in any of you.
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Okay. Real quick till someone comes behind you. So we just go to different churches,
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no right or wrong answers. We just want to know what you guys believe about obedience. Should
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Christian, in this case, Catholic women obey their husbands? Yes, no, why or why not?
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Yes, they should. But in our case, mine and my husband's case, we normally are on the same page.
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So there's normally not anything for me to submit to that I don't already agree with,
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if that makes sense. What would you do if the priest and your husband disagreed? Who are you
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listening to um i would consult the priest about that prop but i guess i'd have to listen to the
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priest okay all right thank you um it's not affiliated with anybody or anything it's just me
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it's just you it's just me myself particular question because i want to know the answer
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so yeah it's not i just want to know what do different churches believe some believe they're
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very far yes that women should and some are very far no and there's a lot of disagreement around
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it so i just try to get the answer that's not even the right question what would you say would
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be the right question should christian women be submissive to their husbands it's it's almost like
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if you're going to get a you want a spiritual response or religious response then you have
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to ask the right question okay well this is the question i chose and i'm just want to know
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if you agree or you disagree, like should Christian women obey their husbands? Yes, no,
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why or why not? So I would say the Christian husband has to first meditate on that Bible
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passage in Ephesians. Okay. And then after that, everything falls into place. So we're wondering
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who gets to decide if he's following God or following that Bible passage? Is it the woman's
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choice the priest's choice he himself would know he would know and the and the wife would know
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by the change of his heart and so is she okay to tell him what to do or no to tell him what to do
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yeah there's a mutual submission okay that the catholic church teaches so it's not an overpowering
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one way or the other but i hope you get the answer that you're looking for but i think
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because immediately you're gonna it's almost an offensive question you think it's offensive
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in the sense that i personally don't feel it's properly worded if you're looking for a spiritual
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response because it's based on scripture well so the way i would view it is um i don't really view
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obedience is a bad word um like kids obey parents so i could understand maybe other people have a
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different perspective but you know when my parents told me to do something growing up i had no choice
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i just had to do it yeah and so in the husband wife relationship obey is not the correct word
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because it's a partnership okay so is she okay to like tell him what to do when it comes to chores
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when it just because i'm wondering a boss like you'd never tell him what to do i know but hey
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Like everyone wants to be treated respectfully.
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Well, I guess, but someone has to have the final say, right?
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Because it can't, you know, like I use Trump and Vance.
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You know, Trump does have the final say when it comes to it.
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So I do a channel and we ask, we go to different churches
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and we ask people what their belief is on obedience.
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So I'd love to know, one, how long you've been a member here,
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and two, what your beliefs are around obedience.
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So I've been attending this church for, I believe, four years now.
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the Catechism of the Trent actually touches on this expressly,
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and we believe that to be the most authoritative catechism ever put out
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relied on for several hundred years at this point. And it actually touches in there on the duties of
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a wife and the duties of a husband. And in the duties of a wife section, it has, I believe the
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phrase goes, let them never forget to esteem their husbands as second to God and to yield to them in
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all things, not in offense against Christian piety or in line with Christian piety, something to that
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effect so it's pretty straightforward and and just so you would say yes they should obey well of
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course yes um and what do you guys do here if the priest and the husband disagree well i'm a little
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bit young to answer that question how old are you you're what 20s early 20s yeah that's accurate 23
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23 okay so you've been around long enough right four years that's a good amount of time i mean
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yeah but in terms of like observing priest husband conflicts i don't have any okay so you're not you're
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not too sure no i don't know i don't know what happened yeah because i guess one of the questions
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i have faith in our priest though yeah well it's one of the questions we come to is that
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no two men agree on everything so yeah so when it comes to if you want to walk this way slightly
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just in case someone comes in when it comes to like parenting style and um you know just um
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there's different different disagreements in a marriage uh what happens if the priest
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agrees with the wife and not the husband who who should she listen to according to you
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well it depends on the subject in question so priests are just get out of it well first off
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this isn't necessarily represented in my parish it's just like off the dome when you're asking me
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but if it's a matter of moral theology for example where the priest's learning and his
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specifically spiritual authority in that way would come into play more and the husband maybe
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doesn't know the thing or so on then in that case it would make sense for the priest to have
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a certain superiority, but in cases that pertain more particularly to the family that, I mean,
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it could be compared really to the difference between the church's authority and state's
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authority. There's a big analogy there in the sense of the church has supreme authority in
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spiritual matters, but the state has a supreme authority in temporal and matters that relate
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the common welfare of the people so in that way the priest logically would have an ultimate authority
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in spiritual things the husband represents christ and thus is kind of a delegate in the in that way
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and also in practical things relating to the common good of the household the husband would have
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you know the authority there so if women are not getting married young in churches
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isn't that requiring morality for men but not women
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i don't necessarily see how the two follow well when it comes to abstinence
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women aren't waiting till marriage to have sex generally and if you go to a lot of churches the
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men are well so wouldn't it isn't it kind of requiring morality for one and not the other
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i mean i don't i don't know what churches you're familiar with but it's abstinence is something
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that's universally pre-shared it's binding on catholics until marriage i mean it's just part
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of the virtue of chastity really so if you're talking from a secular standpoint or something
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like that then maybe even here i i just even hear the women i interviewed a few and they said they
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weren't virgins so like you're essentially even here i go to all different types and it's just
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the typical christian couple um in a lot of places is the guy's a virgin and the woman isn't
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So, like, when that's the case, wouldn't you say it's requiring morality for one and not the other?
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I, well, first, I would dispute this on two levels.
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So, first, just empirically speaking, in terms of that's the average experience, there are a lot of situations.
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I have a friend who goes to a landmass, not this one, but a landmass up in Minnesota.
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And he and his wife were both virgins until marriage, and they were high school sweethearts, as just an example of the time I had.
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I mean, the norm, well, most people aren't getting married
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If you delay marriage, since women have more sexual access
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than young men do, you're requiring morality
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I still wouldn't say this is requiring morality
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Well, do the churches preach against marrying non-virgin women?
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I mean, it is always exalted as the ideal.
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Right, but the men have to follow the ideal, the women don't.
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And both of them have to deal with the consequences.
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Right, but if a guy marries her after, is there really a consequence?
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Well, no, there certainly could be insofar as, for instance,
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it influences the marital dynamics would be one instance of this.
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So for example, it's common for, I mean, this is an analogy, but if, if one spouse is highly
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attractive and the other isn't, then that influences the marital dynamics insofar as
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the one who isn't highly attractive has to compensate for that to some degree, whether
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that's knowledge or money or virtue or something.
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And so I bring that up because you can make an analogy here insofar as if one is marrying
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a non-virgin that can influence the marital dynamics you know maybe she maybe she brings
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a great amount of obedience into the situation or maybe i remind her the words of our lord actually
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when it comes to when it comes to mary magdalene that specifically because of the fact that she
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had been living a life of iniquity that she had all the greater affection for our lord that she
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anointed her feet with oil through her hair and so on so you know that would also be another
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analogy insofar as a woman who a woman who led a not even a dissolute but who made a mistake in the
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past there can be ways that our lord can will a certain good out of that now on the practical
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temporal level there are also downsides but well i'm just more asking like i've just found that
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none of the churches i go the average doesn't seem to be that the 22 year old girls are married
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and when you delay marriage um the women are promiscuous and the men are less promiscuous
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I'm not in favor of delaying marriage or anything.
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I know you're not in favor, but I'm asking if the church doesn't require young marriage,
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then wouldn't you say it's requiring morality for one gender and not the other?
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How would a church require young marriage?
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We encourage it. It's the ideal here, you know, indisputably.
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Well, there's some churches that take a stance on it.
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What church would take a stance on that is relative to ours?
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Well, hypothetically, you could require that women have to be married by a certain age.
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Because women have all the choice when they're young.
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Okay, it's their, even among Protestant dominations,
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is there a church that literally binds its members to be married after a certain...
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Well, there's some that do arranged marriages, yeah.
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Arranged marriages, well, semi-arranged marriages also happen here.
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So, you know, this is a big church with it's the second largest or first largest land mass in the United States.
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There are people who have gone to college and have professional lives and then they have a dramatic conversion.
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And then they they come here, but there's still someone thinking in the world.
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And then there are all the way on the other side of the spectrum.
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There are individuals who it's like trad homeschool families.
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and so in those two contexts the pressures to marriage and the ideas on that will be different
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but i would still say here definitely the milieu is conservative you know people people want to
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be married what percent of people stay here like what would you say is because i find like the
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average church cycle online are like just off of the data is like seven years is that similar here
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or different um well if you consider my own time line i've been here four years i intend to keep
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coming here, you know, as long as I'm in the area. And I, from people I know, I don't know anyone
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who's stopped going. Okay. So what is your thoughts on obedience? Should Christian women
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obey their husbands? Yes. No. Why or why not? I believe that they should obey, but it's,
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it has to do with, um, everyone's submission to Christ because most men, um, they want obedience
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and certain certain qualities but out of pride and out of fear and it is mainly about you serving
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god and serving the other not fulfilling your own needs to seem as anything most of these matters
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are private most of these matters are between god and the individual and between god and the
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individuals who joined that covenant with him. But as far as obeying the husband, you should,
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but also before you marry, make sure that that man is fully consecrated to the Lord because the
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devil will always come to divide. And with so many people trying to get married young,
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there's also high divorce rates and things, even in the Christian community, even in the Catholic
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community because of people leaning on themselves, on their own understanding of things. And that's
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just not the way it's ever going to work. Do they allow divorced people in the church?
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I'm not too sure about that. They are allowed, but I believe it is a difference on whether they
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can get married in the church or not. And these are mainly things that need to go through a special
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process because everyone's situation is a little different. But yes, women should obey their
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husbands. But first and foremost, that man should be obeying Christ because it is about submission
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to the Lord's will without your understanding. If there is difficulties, you pray through that
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because most things are spiritual attacks. Who decides if he's obeying Christ? It will be in
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his fruit, you know, peace, patience, kindness, temperance, goodness, self-control, all these
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qualities that you hold to bear fruit otherwise but according to who like who gets to because
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i go to a lot of different churches so if it was black and white when someone was following god
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we'd all agree so we all know there's some you know disagreement on what the bible teaches what
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it says so someone asked of the final say and would you say it should be the priest the man
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the woman who decides if he's following god or not it would usually be all three who would have
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to see because we can there's got to be a final say gotta gotta it will ultimately be the priest
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because he in his in his stewardship he is following christ and he and he knows when things
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are done as a servant of the lord versus as a servant of thyself okay so there there is a
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distinct difference and you will know them by their fruits a man must be consecrated to the
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lord and a man must be in submission and willing to be a servant to his lady to his family just as
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the priests marry the church and that is their that is their wife and they are in covenant with
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the lord and that men also they are in covenant with with god and with their wife but to be a
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servant not to be served so being served it will be it's a fruit that's bared like um well you
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serve your boss though right and you're obedient to your boss if he tells you what to do I will
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give him correction if he's if he's misstepping just like anyone else you cannot fear correcting
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wrongs because right but at the end of the day he's got the final say you know like I'll give
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you an example I used to work in sales and I thought door-to-door was better and he thought
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phone calls were better and you know I could say hey I suggest door-to-door he says I don't care
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you're doing calls and I can't, I can't correct him. You know, there's no, I can give my opinion,
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but at the end of the day, he has the final say. So wouldn't you say that like bosses have more
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authority than husbands? Um, no, because you can always quit that. You can't quit a marriage.
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Exactly. You know, people quit marriages all the time. Yeah. And even though, you know,
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there's so many instances where bosses will try to tell you things like, even you've seen it like
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in teams or things play out where somebody goes against that because they're following the higher
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calling and things work out beautifully. And that person can admit when they were wrong.
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It's kind of the same with the Lord. The Lord illuminates the mind of the woman
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in a special way where we have like, you know, the gifts of intuition and certain things. And
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it is on the man to respect and to listen to her and truly love and want to serve in order to get
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those messages. Oftentimes it is the man is who takes the action, but it is the woman who can
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bring him to more enlightenment if he is humbles himself. So it's the woman's job to decide if
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he's following God. No, it's not like that. It's just, um, you will know them by their fruits
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and there, there is a difference. And it's always about who you are serving and not,
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it's not about selfishness. Like, you know, you can tell when someone's bearing a fruit
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versus when they're doing a work because they want to seem a certain way and that's the problem with
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a lot of the church you know they come and they're dressed up and it's all nice and everything it's
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like performative performative yes and the lord can tell the difference and that like there's men
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here who've wanted to you know what i mean date me but with my gift of discernment i'm like your
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posture isn't right you know so how is it not right like what could they have done better
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it's just um you know like they want to quicken it they want to they won't even develop a slow
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friendship to see you as an individual it's just automatically like oh let's have this church date
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I just met you a moment ago and and that's not of the Lord because the Lord it's in his timing not
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in the devil's rush so it's just that consecrate yourself to the Lord have him as your number one
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and you will find that wife and same thing for women you consecrate yourself to the Lord he is
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your number one that is how when temptation falls because I fell into temptation you know and and
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the only way you can beat it is if you're fully consecrated to the Lord and you don't remove your
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eyes from him. Is it okay for a woman to tell her husband what to do? Like when it comes to chores,
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when it comes to parenting style, it's not okay to, to play commander over anyone's life.
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It is, it is a gift from God to be able to work in a certain synchronicity where things don't
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exactly have to be spoken or demand it. When you are a servant, you are looking and searching for
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what you can do to give aid and you're not getting the energy from within yourself. God gives it to
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you. And how long have you been a member here? Two years. Two years. And have you, has your life
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changed since becoming a member? Dramatically. I used to have schizophrenia, so much demon attacks,
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so much pain and different things that would come like from random people. You know what I mean?
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People that don't know me, don't see me, but can come and threaten to beat my face and different
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things like that because i've always served god i recently started serving the lord when i understood
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everything but in coming here like no if you want to sin like this place will burn it right out of
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you you will fall to your knees once you are convicted and once you know the truth there is
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no there is no turning back what do you think about women denying their husband sex in marriage
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is that okay that is not okay because it is two or one body but it's not supposed to be sex it's
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It's supposed to be love, and love can only be produced through God.
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That's why sometimes people will do things and not feel anything.
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And that's what it's supposed to be, humbling yourself to not play judge and jury to your spouse,
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You're called to have virtues for the both of you,
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And sometimes someone is going to be a little less than the other in how they follow.
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Do you guys believe in the natural order of the world?
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And do you guys believe that men are above women?
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Not a trick question, just trying to figure out what people believe.
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Like Jesus speaks to women here on the ground.
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they are called to give of themselves without it being a tit for tat type of thing and that's where
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so many people fail is because they think well I did this so I should get this and that is not a
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fruit a fruit says here's here's all I have just like the Lord gave us all that he had his whole
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body his whole being his whole life was to serve he was sinless and he calls men to walk in his
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image to call to him to help them. So it does go in that order, but not when men want to disrespect
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that, not when they want to devalue that and not when they want to have things done out of their
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selfish dreams or desires or delusions. Well, yeah, but who decides what's selfish, right?
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I mean, priests will be able to tell any man because he is consecrated to the Lord. But when
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men don't want to listen, you know, there is punishment to pay. There is things that will
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the punishment well it's in your life you know certain things will be taken from you certain
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things won't work out for you certain things you know you will feel like there's always a bump in
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the road but that's because you're not consecrated what age do people get married here is it younger
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older about the same um just to give you context in america the average age of first marriage is
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between 27 to 32 ish for men and for women one to two kids is that normal here or is that abnormal
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Mid 20s, especially because so many women who have come here have been coming here,
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and they do have certain gifts of discernment and things, and the men too.
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First are called in what the Lord wants you specifically to do,
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I do know there are people here that are in their 30s and 40s who have still not
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But this is the place to come for God's blessing.
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And first, there is work to be done on yourself before you are to find a husband or wife.
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And in this lifetime, many of us are not called to be husbands or wives, but we are called
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to worship God and remain fully consecrated to His will.
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you guys be okay with a pedophile coming to your church yes you would be wow yes really would you
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say yes um only if they become reformed through God oh wow okay because um certain afflictions
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you know I've had certain delusions that happened to me through adults raping me when I was a baby
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different things like that like um and it was doctors you know people who were trusted but I
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have full memory of these things and so it allowed certain entities that made me think that I wanted
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to be a man made me think that I wanted to hurt men in certain ways and the devil floods you so
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you used to want you used to want to be a man yeah really yeah did you do like the surgery or something
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no no no no but I was like you know I was 270 I was muscular I was strong and I was very much
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independent but that is all of the devil but how the lord works is that when you forgive others who
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did these things to you you forgive the people who so would you be okay with keeping them away
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from children though would that like maybe just some protections for the kids well yes but it's
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the it's the whole thing would you say yes also uh we're on hollow ground so all children are
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protected by the holy spirit here and no evil entity can reign okay so you would just be okay
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with them being in the congregation. I'm really shocked. It's not a thing of them. Okay. It is
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entities that are on people, just like entities would bother me in my dreams, in my daily life.
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It is, it is things who have the right to be there because through your unforgiveness,
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you give them the right and God allows it because it is not until you forgive what was done wrong
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to you. And then you forgive yourself and you work on those things that those desires, those
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delusions get stripped away and then they are no more. One, some things that used to turn me on or
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used to like be a thing. Now I just feel sorrow about it. There is no, because when you consecrate
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yourself to the Lord truly, he washes you. Would you, how do you guys treat if a woman dresses
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immodestly? Do they tell her to change or do they not say anything? And I'm curious, would this be
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okay in church or the shoulders or it would be too much? The shoulders are usually covered just
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because it can be distracting you know what i mean there is beauty in the feminine physique it's not
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so much about control it is about this is a the mass is an entire prayer yeah i totally respect
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i'm just wondering i'm not going in there but if i was would they tell do they tell the women to
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change no no there's there's women who have shown up with skirts before the knees like you know
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cleavage or different things it is not for us to judge it is in god's working that people become
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more modest and try and see themselves differently you just give them love and we are not called to
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judge we are just called to be loving in God's workings through their mind he will help them
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with modesty is there ever like if somebody's committing sins regular like maybe a guy's
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hooking up with a lot of the girls or a girl's hooking up with a lot of the guys will they ask
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them to leave the church if they're like causing too much sin or would they keep having them attend
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um those things aren't really known here but if they were they would definitely be um you know
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taken aside and spoken to and prayed over because a lot of things need to be cast out when people
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are able to be a vessel for the evil spirit it is because there is unforgiveness there is certain
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things and that allow him to have authority to work through them to attack people who are usually
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called to a higher power like you'll find if you ask priests and stuff they are attacked heavily
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their families are attacked heavily wait they can get married here i thought they could okay no no
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no but it's when you're called to god and when you're serving him you will always be attacked
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in ways that are supernatural but you don't fear and you stay still and you don't retaliate with
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anger you retaliate with the understanding that all anger comes from pain all tearing apart things
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comes from pain and they're giving the dark one authority but you have to realize you're covered
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in the blood of Christ you give him authority those things will expel from you and over time
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he cleans you he can clean you like that but most things have to be because we are in a place where
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it's our will he he he we have to walk with him it's not it instant gratification is not a thing
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that will help you yeah so it's it's just basically like the spiritualness of it it's all very
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supernatural but he will walk with you he will work with you but people wanting to judge and
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pinpoint you're doing this and it's like well remove the stake from your own eye in your own
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way you have your own sins and just because they sin in a different way or are held in a different
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way like I've had people who wanted to have like such attacks and everybody was you know everybody
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wants to get mad at them for certain things but when you approach them with love that demon flees
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What do you think about people that say that church is a get out of jail free card?
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It is not because, you know, the Lord will judge us all for what we do, whether it's done in secret or anything.
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He sees everything. So there is no people who want to have that again are operating in fear.
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They think, you know, this or that. But the Lord works on us.
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But he knows how much you are wanting to be a vessel of him or a vessel of the other.
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so you are always in servitude of someone. What are female sins that women tend to do more than
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men? Idolize and idolize a man over the Lord and so they think oh he was my meant to be he was this
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he was that they fall into lust because how much they want that man instead of honoring what God
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calls us to do which is to wait to wait until marriage and if it is the right one he will
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respect that. The wrong one, of course, is going to push you because he's an inhabitant of the dark
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entities. He's not being a vessel for Christ. So he's not ready. He's not ready because especially
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usually people who break before marriage, they will have so much more of that same attack and
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then wonder why cheating happens and everything. Wouldn't the solution just be to get married
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younger? Because biologically, you're like your predisposition to reproduce at like 18, you know,
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pretty young. So it's pretty a normal feeling to want to have. I don't know if it's a, I don't know
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if it's like a entity or anything. It just seems like it's biology. Yeah. So wouldn't the solution
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just be for the women to get married younger? It is, but it's to first in your childhood and
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growing up, it is very important for families to go to church. It's very important for them
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to understand the supernatural of everything and to be consecrated to the Lord. So when they do
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meet their first love, who they are, you know, they're both walking in a Holy spirit to where
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can be blessed in there together. And that would be a dream for all of us, you know, but all of us
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were raised differently. It's a modern world. Yeah. Some of us come late. Some of us have no
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idea and in our ignorance and in our, you know, we, we sin and everything. So yes, we should be
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married at the age that we fill it, but fear, different things get in the way. Well, wouldn't
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you say it's kind of, since women are more attractive when we're younger? Yeah. Wouldn't
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you say it's more in the woman's control when people get married? Because it's not like most
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men have a lot of choice when they're young you know they don't tend to get choice till they're
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older so like wouldn't you say if if um the age of first marriage is going up or people aren't
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married it's more and the choice because even you said that men ask you out at the church right
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yeah so yeah um it's something that you can't control because you know the man who i deeply
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loved wasn't you know he died last week but he wasn't um he wasn't conventionally attractive to
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many people but to me he had such a light that that that light within him that servitude you
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know that's what drew me that's what drew me i could see within him through the lord you know
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and and people who are meant to be with certain people it's not about the outside because the
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outside ages freak accidents happen all sorts of things it is who you're called to be um just
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weakened heart and everything like I don't want to get in I don't want to get into it it was a it
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was an insulin shock type thing okay we don't know the specifics but you know we're all too
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we're all too young for that but we don't have you know the power no no no it's like he was
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baptized and we both were like in sin in our in our younger years but he's always been my only one
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and because I serve I serve God in such a way he was heavily attacked but in ways that we did want
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certain things but you know you should have seen his you should have seen his funeral there are
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hundreds of people who he touched who he spoke life into who he did all these things because
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those were his fruits and when I first met him I already knew that was a fruit tree I didn't need
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to see anything I could feel it you know and with most of us who are drawn to be who we are meant to
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be with it's going to be a supernatural thing so it's not about the how someone looks it's not
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about like oh they're so hot because that that desire that fleshly thing will go away it's about
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their posture in christ it's about how they serve and and it's deeper than that so yes there will
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be people you're attracted to but um it's very important to be with who you are attracted to
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because me he was to me he was the most beautiful man well you don't want to be married to someone
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you're not attracted yes yes that's very important and what most people get wrong here is that i've
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heard people say like I married him but I wasn't exactly to attract it no do not do that because
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it's not fair to the guy it's not fair to the guy at all and it's not fair to you either because
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you know you have supernaturally you're supposed to have that to where like you know you're like
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even though we're going through this trouble they are just so beautiful to me like I want to
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understand I want to serve I want like you know and stuff it has to align so don't just marry
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somebody because they check boxes that is so disgusting well thank you so much this interview
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She's been great. Thank you guys. Thank you guys. Appreciate you.