Pearl - I Asked Traditional Catholics Whether Or Not Women Should Obey

00:00:00.000 And we pray that our Father to deliver us from temptation and free us from evil for that exact

00:00:06.920 reason. So there's a lot of religious guys that watch the channel. Do you want to give your

00:00:11.400 Instagram? Maybe some of them are interested. You never know. No, thank you. I'm not interested

00:00:15.340 in any of you. I know you're not in favor, but I'm asking if the church doesn't require young 1.00

00:00:19.900 marriage, then wouldn't you say it's requiring morality for one gender and not the other? 0.58

00:00:25.320 How would a church require young marriage? There's a mutual submission 0.82

00:00:29.600 that the Catholic Church teaches. What's up, guys? Today, we are at the Catholic

00:00:36.140 Mater Dei Parish out here in Dallas, asking the Catholic women here what they believe about

00:00:41.780 obedience. Should Christian women, or in this case, Catholic women, obey their husbands? Yes,

00:00:46.840 no, why or why not? Also, if you can, fill out the Google form that's in the description.

00:00:52.560 So when we are in your city for a live show, we can notify you that we are there. Like the video,

00:00:58.480 Let's get started. Do you want to answer the sign? We're trying to figure out what you guys

00:01:03.400 believe here. You got two minutes to tell us? There's no right or wrong answers. We're just

00:01:08.240 trying to figure out what people believe about obedience because we go to different churches

00:01:12.440 every week and just ask people what they believe. So do you guys believe here that Christian women

00:01:17.160 should obey their husbands? Tell me yes, no, and why or why not? Yes. And the reason is because it 1.00

00:01:24.420 It is God's calling for the woman to submit to their husband. 0.99

00:01:29.540 And in the first place, it is a woman's choice. 0.98

00:01:32.320 She chooses who she wants to marry and whose name she wants to carry.

00:01:37.560 And with that being said, if she made the right choice and was anointed with God, then

00:01:42.560 in fact her husband should know best.

00:01:45.860 And the saying goes, Father knows best.

00:01:47.940 And if he is consecrated with the Holy Spirit and he is anointed and he chooses to walk

00:01:53.620 daily in his act with God, then his wife should trust in him 100%. And vice versa. She should be

00:02:02.100 his fortress of solitude, and she should always pray for him, even in the most difficult times.

00:02:09.400 When the devil tries to tear apart marriages, because he will try to come between husband and

00:02:15.160 wife, you're called to pray and to stay together. So how long have you been practicing here?

00:02:22.040 This is my third year practicing here at Mater Dei Latin Mass Parish.

00:02:28.820 Prior to practicing my faith here, I was a part of Novus Ordo churches.

00:02:35.320 I was raised Catholic since birth.

00:02:37.880 We attended St. Elizabeth Hungary of Dallas, and nothing against that church,

00:02:42.620 but I have felt fully in my power here,

00:02:46.980 and I'm consecrated with the Holy Ghost to come to church every Sunday, so I definitely feel the

00:02:53.320 presence here. So what would you do if the priest and your husband disagreed? So, and it's not a

00:03:00.820 cut and, the first answer I always get, I'll just preface, is that we listen to the Bible, but let's

00:03:06.280 say it's not cut and dry because there are instances where there's not a cut and dry answer,

00:03:10.360 right? And the priest says what, like, let's say parenting style. The priest says one thing and

00:03:15.460 your husband says another who are you listening to I would definitely take the priests the priests

00:03:23.180 whatever the priest recommends to heart only because he speaks through the father the son

00:03:28.800 and the holy ghost and to listen to father's guidance is listening to God's guidance and with

00:03:35.180 God's guidance to pray for your husband so that he may be redirected if there is a miscalculation

00:03:41.260 that we are all human and we're called to pray for each other, but listening to the Father is not

00:03:47.580 dismissing your husband in any way. So wouldn't you say then the priest has more authority than

00:03:53.680 the husband? In that, yes, the priest is always going to have authority over husband and wife.

00:04:01.400 He is the one that is anointing the husband and wife. So with that being said, the husband should 0.96

00:04:07.600 work diligently with the wife to stay in step with God. So is there a push here to get married and

00:04:13.440 have kids young or do they say to do it on your own timeline? Like what is the, I guess, thoughts

00:04:19.220 around that? In God's timing, I believe you could get married at 50 years old and have your first

00:04:27.900 child. You could get married at 30 years old and have your first child, maybe even at 18 and have

00:04:33.780 your first child, but God doesn't push you to marriage. In fact, marriage is one of the more

00:04:39.440 complicated things in this world. God actually does call you to practice celibacy if you choose

00:04:46.640 a life of singledom, and if your higher calling is not to be a wife and have children, God understands

00:04:53.060 your heart and your posture, but he does want you to act in the state of celibacy and to not give

00:05:01.820 yourself to anyone if you are for God. Does that mean the majority of women here are virgins like 0.75

00:05:07.240 are waiting for marriage? Either they are virgins or they may be born again in the sense that they 0.99

00:05:13.440 have already come to God and asked for forgiveness for their past mistakes or missteps when they were

00:05:20.300 maybe not guided by God but by this world and giving in to their bodily desires. But God has

00:05:27.720 forgiveness for all men and women who take those missteps and if you were miscalculated at any

00:05:33.680 given time in your life there's always a chance to turn it around and be born again and for christ

00:05:38.720 don't you think that's requiring morality from the men and not the women because usually like

00:05:45.760 if you go to churches the woman didn't have to wait till marriage but the man usually did

00:05:49.560 yeah that's very interesting that you say that um there was a story that i recently heard where a

00:05:57.240 woman, had several partners and became engaged. And when she was engaged, maybe she was flooded

00:06:04.520 by the Holy Spirit, maybe by the evil spirit, but she chose to marry a man who was in fact

00:06:09.880 devout to Christ and he was celibate. And she did a grievous sin by lying to him or omitting

00:06:17.880 information that she had in fact had maybe one or maybe several partners. And not because of

00:06:27.180 her sin did he choose to kill her that was an act um of the devil he killed her yes oh i thought

00:06:34.420 you were talking about a different story okay no in this story um the man chose to kill his wife

00:06:40.500 and i know that marriage is till death do you part but may god have mercy on his soul for choosing to

00:06:47.060 cast down a woman who may not have been in the state of grace to ask for god's forgiveness

00:06:53.460 he chose to do this on their honeymoon and she chose to relay this information on their honeymoon

00:06:59.320 and that is the spirit of evil I will say because the devil does come to divide husband and wife

00:07:06.880 and a husband is called to understand his wife and whether you make that mistake from your past

00:07:13.500 going forward it should be forgiven but for some reason the evil spirit held a hold of him

00:07:19.420 So as a husband, he's not always right to do what he does, but may God have mercy on them both.

00:07:26.640 Do you think that virginity should be required from women for marriage?

00:07:31.640 Like, why is a woman wearing white, I guess, if she's not a virgin on her wedding day? 0.77

00:07:36.820 Well, it's supposed to signal purity, you know, and like, if you threw it back for like two or three other guys, you know, it's not really. 0.60

00:07:42.400 Understand, understand. But whenever it comes to wearing white, it's a signal of purity from this day going forward that you choose to cast out all other mates. And we pray that our Father to deliver us from temptation and free us from evil for that exact reason.

00:08:03.260 So there's a lot of religious guys that watch the channel. Do you want to give your Instagram? Maybe some of them are interested. You never know.

00:08:09.140 No, thank you. I'm not interested in any of you.

00:08:12.120 Okay. Real quick till someone comes behind you. So we just go to different churches, 0.92

00:08:16.460 no right or wrong answers. We just want to know what you guys believe about obedience. Should

00:08:19.740 Christian, in this case, Catholic women obey their husbands? Yes, no, why or why not? 1.00

00:08:23.720 Yes, they should. But in our case, mine and my husband's case, we normally are on the same page.

00:08:28.900 So there's normally not anything for me to submit to that I don't already agree with,

00:08:32.380 if that makes sense. What would you do if the priest and your husband disagreed? Who are you

00:08:36.480 listening to um i would consult the priest about that prop but i guess i'd have to listen to the

00:08:41.080 priest okay all right thank you um it's not affiliated with anybody or anything it's just me

00:08:45.520 it's just you it's just me myself particular question because i want to know the answer

00:08:50.700 so yeah it's not i just want to know what do different churches believe some believe they're

00:08:57.240 very far yes that women should and some are very far no and there's a lot of disagreement around

00:09:02.080 it so i just try to get the answer that's not even the right question what would you say would

00:09:07.480 be the right question should christian women be submissive to their husbands it's it's almost like

00:09:14.940 if you're going to get a you want a spiritual response or religious response then you have

00:09:23.700 to ask the right question okay well this is the question i chose and i'm just want to know

00:09:28.400 if you agree or you disagree, like should Christian women obey their husbands? Yes, no,

00:09:33.520 why or why not? So I would say the Christian husband has to first meditate on that Bible

00:09:43.360 passage in Ephesians. Okay. And then after that, everything falls into place. So we're wondering

00:09:50.720 who gets to decide if he's following God or following that Bible passage? Is it the woman's 0.99

00:09:55.320 choice the priest's choice he himself would know he would know and the and the wife would know

00:10:02.600 by the change of his heart and so is she okay to tell him what to do or no to tell him what to do

00:10:10.920 yeah there's a mutual submission okay that the catholic church teaches so it's not an overpowering

00:10:19.960 one way or the other but i hope you get the answer that you're looking for but i think

00:10:27.000 because immediately you're gonna it's almost an offensive question you think it's offensive

00:10:32.680 in the sense that i personally don't feel it's properly worded if you're looking for a spiritual

00:10:39.960 response because it's based on scripture well so the way i would view it is um i don't really view

00:10:45.720 obedience is a bad word um like kids obey parents so i could understand maybe other people have a

00:10:51.080 different perspective but you know when my parents told me to do something growing up i had no choice

00:10:55.320 i just had to do it yeah and so in the husband wife relationship obey is not the correct word

00:11:03.560 because it's a partnership okay so is she okay to like tell him what to do when it comes to chores

00:11:08.760 when it just because i'm wondering a boss like you'd never tell him what to do i know but hey

00:11:13.960 hey, do this, do that.

00:11:15.860 I don't think it goes either way.

00:11:18.540 Like everyone wants to be treated respectfully.

00:11:21.580 Right.

00:11:22.060 Hey, honey, can you help me with this?

00:11:23.620 That's different than do this.

00:11:26.240 And the person hops to it.

00:11:28.640 But we could talk a long time about this,

00:11:31.680 but I hope I've helped you along the way.

00:11:34.640 It's a partnership.

00:11:36.100 It's a mutual submission.

00:11:38.240 And it has to come out of charity.

00:11:42.300 Well, I guess, but someone has to have the final say, right?

00:11:44.900 Because it can't, you know, like I use Trump and Vance.

00:11:48.960 You know, Trump does have the final say when it comes to it.

00:11:52.020 So would you say that?

00:11:53.080 Marriage is not, marriage is a covenant.

00:11:55.560 It's not a business.

00:11:57.600 It's not employer, employee.

00:12:02.080 Oh, but I do need to go.

00:12:04.660 All right.

00:12:05.000 Well, thank you.

00:12:05.740 I appreciate you.

00:12:06.700 Have a good one.

00:12:07.560 So I do a channel and we ask, we go to different churches

00:12:10.440 and we ask people what their belief is on obedience.

00:12:13.320 So I'd love to know, one, how long you've been a member here,

00:12:17.120 and two, what your beliefs are around obedience.

00:12:20.440 Sure.

00:12:21.120 So I've been attending this church for, I believe, four years now.

00:12:25.880 Okay.

00:12:26.600 And in terms of obedience,

00:12:29.700 the Catechism of the Trent actually touches on this expressly,

00:12:33.360 and we believe that to be the most authoritative catechism ever put out

00:12:38.920 by the Roman Church.

00:12:40.440 relied on for several hundred years at this point. And it actually touches in there on the duties of

00:12:46.100 a wife and the duties of a husband. And in the duties of a wife section, it has, I believe the

00:12:51.800 phrase goes, let them never forget to esteem their husbands as second to God and to yield to them in

00:12:59.620 all things, not in offense against Christian piety or in line with Christian piety, something to that

00:13:05.560 effect so it's pretty straightforward and and just so you would say yes they should obey well of

00:13:12.200 course yes um and what do you guys do here if the priest and the husband disagree well i'm a little

00:13:18.740 bit young to answer that question how old are you you're what 20s early 20s yeah that's accurate 23

00:13:25.880 23 okay so you've been around long enough right four years that's a good amount of time i mean

00:13:30.380 yeah but in terms of like observing priest husband conflicts i don't have any okay so you're not you're

00:13:35.360 not too sure no i don't know i don't know what happened yeah because i guess one of the questions

00:13:38.920 i have faith in our priest though yeah well it's one of the questions we come to is that

00:13:42.240 no two men agree on everything so yeah so when it comes to if you want to walk this way slightly

00:13:47.820 just in case someone comes in when it comes to like parenting style and um you know just um

00:13:53.740 there's different different disagreements in a marriage uh what happens if the priest

00:13:58.060 agrees with the wife and not the husband who who should she listen to according to you

00:14:03.140 well it depends on the subject in question so priests are just get out of it well first off

00:14:12.340 this isn't necessarily represented in my parish it's just like off the dome when you're asking me

00:14:15.560 but if it's a matter of moral theology for example where the priest's learning and his

00:14:23.640 specifically spiritual authority in that way would come into play more and the husband maybe

00:14:28.100 doesn't know the thing or so on then in that case it would make sense for the priest to have

00:14:33.000 a certain superiority, but in cases that pertain more particularly to the family that, I mean,

00:14:40.660 it could be compared really to the difference between the church's authority and state's

00:14:44.720 authority. There's a big analogy there in the sense of the church has supreme authority in

00:14:49.400 spiritual matters, but the state has a supreme authority in temporal and matters that relate

00:14:55.980 the common welfare of the people so in that way the priest logically would have an ultimate authority

00:15:03.420 in spiritual things the husband represents christ and thus is kind of a delegate in the in that way

00:15:10.060 and also in practical things relating to the common good of the household the husband would have

00:15:14.620 you know the authority there so if women are not getting married young in churches

00:15:20.380 isn't that requiring morality for men but not women

00:15:27.900 i don't necessarily see how the two follow well when it comes to abstinence 0.79

00:15:32.380 women aren't waiting till marriage to have sex generally and if you go to a lot of churches the

00:15:36.060 men are well so wouldn't it isn't it kind of requiring morality for one and not the other

00:15:43.580 i mean i don't i don't know what churches you're familiar with but it's abstinence is something

00:15:48.380 that's universally pre-shared it's binding on catholics until marriage i mean it's just part

00:15:52.860 of the virtue of chastity really so if you're talking from a secular standpoint or something

00:15:58.360 like that then maybe even here i i just even hear the women i interviewed a few and they said they

00:16:04.860 weren't virgins so like you're essentially even here i go to all different types and it's just

00:16:10.920 the typical christian couple um in a lot of places is the guy's a virgin and the woman isn't

00:16:17.000 So, like, when that's the case, wouldn't you say it's requiring morality for one and not the other? 0.59

00:16:23.320 I, well, first, I would dispute this on two levels.

00:16:26.060 So, first, just empirically speaking, in terms of that's the average experience, there are a lot of situations.

00:16:32.380 I know a lot of young people.

00:16:33.680 I have a friend who goes to a landmass, not this one, but a landmass up in Minnesota.

00:16:40.000 And he and his wife were both virgins until marriage, and they were high school sweethearts, as just an example of the time I had.

00:16:45.620 Would you say that's the norm?

00:16:49.160 Yes, you wouldn't hesitate.

00:16:50.740 I mean, the norm, well, most people aren't getting married

00:16:53.000 during high school, and that has correlations

00:16:55.320 to premarital chastity, but imperfectly.

00:16:57.380 Well, but that's the point. 1.00

00:16:58.240 If you delay marriage, since women have more sexual access 0.98

00:17:01.100 than young men do, you're requiring morality 0.97

00:17:03.740 for one and not the other. 0.88

00:17:05.640 I still wouldn't say this is requiring morality

00:17:07.360 for one and not the other, though. 0.82

00:17:08.900 Well, do the churches preach against marrying non-virgin women?

00:17:14.400 Not necessarily. 1.00

00:17:15.620 I mean, it is always exalted as the ideal. 1.00

00:17:18.540 Right, but the men have to follow the ideal, the women don't. 1.00

00:17:21.960 No, both of them do. 0.95

00:17:23.620 And both of them have to deal with the consequences.

00:17:26.200 Right, but if a guy marries her after, is there really a consequence?

00:17:29.880 There certainly could be.

00:17:32.380 But in all honesty, not really.

00:17:34.340 Well, no, there certainly could be insofar as, for instance,

00:17:39.100 it influences the marital dynamics would be one instance of this.

00:17:43.440 So for example, it's common for, I mean, this is an analogy, but if, if one spouse is highly

00:17:52.340 attractive and the other isn't, then that influences the marital dynamics insofar as

00:17:57.060 the one who isn't highly attractive has to compensate for that to some degree, whether

00:18:01.640 that's knowledge or money or virtue or something.

00:18:05.060 I mean, that's a common thing.

00:18:06.120 And so I bring that up because you can make an analogy here insofar as if one is marrying 0.66

00:18:12.140 a non-virgin that can influence the marital dynamics you know maybe she maybe she brings

00:18:17.340 a great amount of obedience into the situation or maybe i remind her the words of our lord actually

00:18:22.700 when it comes to when it comes to mary magdalene that specifically because of the fact that she

00:18:28.500 had been living a life of iniquity that she had all the greater affection for our lord that she

00:18:34.680 anointed her feet with oil through her hair and so on so you know that would also be another

00:18:40.920 analogy insofar as a woman who a woman who led a not even a dissolute but who made a mistake in the

00:18:49.740 past there can be ways that our lord can will a certain good out of that now on the practical

00:18:55.180 temporal level there are also downsides but well i'm just more asking like i've just found that

00:19:00.700 none of the churches i go the average doesn't seem to be that the 22 year old girls are married

00:19:05.380 and when you delay marriage um the women are promiscuous and the men are less promiscuous

00:19:10.600 I'm not in favor of delaying marriage or anything. 0.91

00:19:14.180 I know you're not in favor, but I'm asking if the church doesn't require young marriage, 0.72

00:19:18.160 then wouldn't you say it's requiring morality for one gender and not the other? 0.58

00:19:22.920 How would a church require young marriage? 0.95

00:19:25.680 Well, they used to do. 0.99

00:19:27.380 We encourage it. It's the ideal here, you know, indisputably.

00:19:31.340 Well, there's some churches that take a stance on it.

00:19:33.740 What church would take a stance on that is relative to ours? 0.80

00:19:38.100 Well, hypothetically, you could require that women have to be married by a certain age. 1.00

00:19:42.060 Because women have all the choice when they're young.

00:19:44.100 Okay, it's their, even among Protestant dominations,

00:19:46.980 is there a church that literally binds its members to be married after a certain...

00:19:50.480 Well, there's some that do arranged marriages, yeah.

00:19:52.460 Do arranged marriages. 0.84

00:19:53.820 Yeah.

00:19:54.420 Okay, well...

00:19:56.260 Called cults.

00:19:57.460 Sorry.

00:19:57.580 Okay, well, yeah, that's what I get into.

00:19:59.120 I mean, that's also a bit of a different...

00:20:00.500 Arranged marriages, well, semi-arranged marriages also happen here.

00:20:03.720 Yeah.

00:20:03.940 So, you know, this is a big church with it's the second largest or first largest land mass in the United States.

00:20:11.420 You get all kinds of people here.

00:20:12.920 There are people who have gone to college and have professional lives and then they have a dramatic conversion.

00:20:20.880 And then they they come here, but there's still someone thinking in the world.

00:20:25.300 And then there are all the way on the other side of the spectrum.

00:20:27.680 There are individuals who it's like trad homeschool families.

00:20:31.180 They got a farm and everything.

00:20:32.360 and so in those two contexts the pressures to marriage and the ideas on that will be different

00:20:37.980 but i would still say here definitely the milieu is conservative you know people people want to

00:20:43.820 be married what percent of people stay here like what would you say is because i find like the

00:20:49.900 average church cycle online are like just off of the data is like seven years is that similar here

00:20:54.960 or different um well if you consider my own time line i've been here four years i intend to keep

00:21:01.720 coming here, you know, as long as I'm in the area. And I, from people I know, I don't know anyone

00:21:08.260 who's stopped going. Okay. So what is your thoughts on obedience? Should Christian women

00:21:12.720 obey their husbands? Yes. No. Why or why not? I believe that they should obey, but it's, 0.99

00:21:19.580 it has to do with, um, everyone's submission to Christ because most men, um, they want obedience

00:21:27.720 and certain certain qualities but out of pride and out of fear and it is mainly about you serving

00:21:37.000 god and serving the other not fulfilling your own needs to seem as anything most of these matters

00:21:44.860 are private most of these matters are between god and the individual and between god and the

00:21:51.340 individuals who joined that covenant with him. But as far as obeying the husband, you should,

00:21:59.200 but also before you marry, make sure that that man is fully consecrated to the Lord because the

00:22:06.260 devil will always come to divide. And with so many people trying to get married young,

00:22:12.080 there's also high divorce rates and things, even in the Christian community, even in the Catholic

00:22:17.200 community because of people leaning on themselves, on their own understanding of things. And that's

00:22:24.380 just not the way it's ever going to work. Do they allow divorced people in the church?

00:22:29.340 I'm not too sure about that. They are allowed, but I believe it is a difference on whether they

00:22:35.220 can get married in the church or not. And these are mainly things that need to go through a special

00:22:42.000 process because everyone's situation is a little different. But yes, women should obey their 1.00

00:22:48.280 husbands. But first and foremost, that man should be obeying Christ because it is about submission 0.81

00:22:54.220 to the Lord's will without your understanding. If there is difficulties, you pray through that

00:22:58.640 because most things are spiritual attacks. Who decides if he's obeying Christ? It will be in

00:23:03.840 his fruit, you know, peace, patience, kindness, temperance, goodness, self-control, all these

00:23:09.720 qualities that you hold to bear fruit otherwise but according to who like who gets to because

00:23:15.500 i go to a lot of different churches so if it was black and white when someone was following god

00:23:20.120 we'd all agree so we all know there's some you know disagreement on what the bible teaches what

00:23:24.920 it says so someone asked of the final say and would you say it should be the priest the man

00:23:30.320 the woman who decides if he's following god or not it would usually be all three who would have

00:23:37.000 to see because we can there's got to be a final say gotta gotta it will ultimately be the priest

00:23:42.860 because he in his in his stewardship he is following christ and he and he knows when things

00:23:49.920 are done as a servant of the lord versus as a servant of thyself okay so there there is a

00:23:56.060 distinct difference and you will know them by their fruits a man must be consecrated to the

00:24:01.400 lord and a man must be in submission and willing to be a servant to his lady to his family just as

00:24:08.000 the priests marry the church and that is their that is their wife and they are in covenant with 0.93

00:24:13.060 the lord and that men also they are in covenant with with god and with their wife but to be a

00:24:20.120 servant not to be served so being served it will be it's a fruit that's bared like um well you

00:24:27.880 serve your boss though right and you're obedient to your boss if he tells you what to do I will

00:24:32.920 give him correction if he's if he's misstepping just like anyone else you cannot fear correcting

00:24:38.780 wrongs because right but at the end of the day he's got the final say you know like I'll give

00:24:43.800 you an example I used to work in sales and I thought door-to-door was better and he thought

00:24:48.780 phone calls were better and you know I could say hey I suggest door-to-door he says I don't care

00:24:54.160 you're doing calls and I can't, I can't correct him. You know, there's no, I can give my opinion,

00:24:59.380 but at the end of the day, he has the final say. So wouldn't you say that like bosses have more

00:25:04.800 authority than husbands? Um, no, because you can always quit that. You can't quit a marriage. 1.00

00:25:11.260 Exactly. You know, people quit marriages all the time. Yeah. And even though, you know,

00:25:16.160 there's so many instances where bosses will try to tell you things like, even you've seen it like

00:25:22.140 in teams or things play out where somebody goes against that because they're following the higher

00:25:28.560 calling and things work out beautifully. And that person can admit when they were wrong.

00:25:33.820 It's kind of the same with the Lord. The Lord illuminates the mind of the woman

00:25:37.700 in a special way where we have like, you know, the gifts of intuition and certain things. And

00:25:43.160 it is on the man to respect and to listen to her and truly love and want to serve in order to get

00:25:50.660 those messages. Oftentimes it is the man is who takes the action, but it is the woman who can

00:25:56.860 bring him to more enlightenment if he is humbles himself. So it's the woman's job to decide if 0.96

00:26:02.160 he's following God. No, it's not like that. It's just, um, you will know them by their fruits 0.99

00:26:08.480 and there, there is a difference. And it's always about who you are serving and not,

00:26:14.900 it's not about selfishness. Like, you know, you can tell when someone's bearing a fruit

00:26:20.340 versus when they're doing a work because they want to seem a certain way and that's the problem with

00:26:24.820 a lot of the church you know they come and they're dressed up and it's all nice and everything it's

00:26:28.580 like performative performative yes and the lord can tell the difference and that like there's men

00:26:33.060 here who've wanted to you know what i mean date me but with my gift of discernment i'm like your

00:26:38.740 posture isn't right you know so how is it not right like what could they have done better

00:26:43.620 it's just um you know like they want to quicken it they want to they won't even develop a slow

00:26:49.460 friendship to see you as an individual it's just automatically like oh let's have this church date

00:26:54.440 I just met you a moment ago and and that's not of the Lord because the Lord it's in his timing not

00:27:00.620 in the devil's rush so it's just that consecrate yourself to the Lord have him as your number one

00:27:06.100 and you will find that wife and same thing for women you consecrate yourself to the Lord he is

00:27:11.720 your number one that is how when temptation falls because I fell into temptation you know and and

00:27:17.760 the only way you can beat it is if you're fully consecrated to the Lord and you don't remove your

00:27:22.080 eyes from him. Is it okay for a woman to tell her husband what to do? Like when it comes to chores, 0.99

00:27:26.880 when it comes to parenting style, it's not okay to, to play commander over anyone's life.

00:27:34.080 It is, it is a gift from God to be able to work in a certain synchronicity where things don't

00:27:40.500 exactly have to be spoken or demand it. When you are a servant, you are looking and searching for

00:27:46.200 what you can do to give aid and you're not getting the energy from within yourself. God gives it to

00:27:52.040 you. And how long have you been a member here? Two years. Two years. And have you, has your life

00:27:57.780 changed since becoming a member? Dramatically. I used to have schizophrenia, so much demon attacks,

00:28:03.600 so much pain and different things that would come like from random people. You know what I mean?

00:28:10.260 People that don't know me, don't see me, but can come and threaten to beat my face and different

00:28:15.320 things like that because i've always served god i recently started serving the lord when i understood

00:28:21.960 everything but in coming here like no if you want to sin like this place will burn it right out of

00:28:27.720 you you will fall to your knees once you are convicted and once you know the truth there is

00:28:33.560 no there is no turning back what do you think about women denying their husband sex in marriage 0.99

00:28:37.800 is that okay that is not okay because it is two or one body but it's not supposed to be sex it's 0.99

00:28:44.120 It's supposed to be love, and love can only be produced through God.

00:28:48.200 That's why sometimes people will do things and not feel anything.

00:28:51.920 They're not making love.

00:28:53.040 And that's what it's supposed to be, humbling yourself to not play judge and jury to your spouse,

00:29:00.900 but to see them and to be gentle with them.

00:29:04.600 You're called to have virtues for the both of you,

00:29:08.520 And sometimes someone is going to be a little less than the other in how they follow.

00:29:14.440 Do you guys believe in the natural order of the world?

00:29:16.460 God, men, women, children.

00:29:18.180 And do you guys believe that men are above women?

00:29:20.860 Not a trick question, just trying to figure out what people believe.

00:29:24.160 They're called to do more.

00:29:25.780 Like Jesus speaks to women here on the ground. 0.97

00:29:28.680 Men have to go to the mountain.

00:29:30.300 They are called to serve.

00:29:32.280 They are called to die to their flesh.

00:29:33.900 they are called to give of themselves without it being a tit for tat type of thing and that's where

00:29:39.420 so many people fail is because they think well I did this so I should get this and that is not a

00:29:45.600 fruit a fruit says here's here's all I have just like the Lord gave us all that he had his whole

00:29:52.980 body his whole being his whole life was to serve he was sinless and he calls men to walk in his

00:30:00.760 image to call to him to help them. So it does go in that order, but not when men want to disrespect

00:30:08.080 that, not when they want to devalue that and not when they want to have things done out of their

00:30:12.820 selfish dreams or desires or delusions. Well, yeah, but who decides what's selfish, right?

00:30:18.640 I mean, priests will be able to tell any man because he is consecrated to the Lord. But when

00:30:24.880 men don't want to listen, you know, there is punishment to pay. There is things that will

00:30:29.760 the punishment well it's in your life you know certain things will be taken from you certain

00:30:34.560 things won't work out for you certain things you know you will feel like there's always a bump in

00:30:39.440 the road but that's because you're not consecrated what age do people get married here is it younger

00:30:44.720 older about the same um just to give you context in america the average age of first marriage is

00:30:50.240 between 27 to 32 ish for men and for women one to two kids is that normal here or is that abnormal

00:30:58.320 Mostly here, it seems to be in their 20s.

00:31:00.960 Okay.

00:31:01.360 Roughly most people are in their 20s.

00:31:02.700 Early 20s, late 20s?

00:31:04.240 It's around the mid.

00:31:05.580 Mid 20s.

00:31:06.140 Mid 20s, especially because so many women who have come here have been coming here,

00:31:10.420 and they do have certain gifts of discernment and things, and the men too.

00:31:15.660 And they first are called to find their path.

00:31:18.540 First are called in what the Lord wants you specifically to do,

00:31:22.600 and then it's about finding the spouse.

00:31:24.560 Do you agree?

00:31:25.240 Is it mid 20s?

00:31:26.160 Would you say the same?

00:31:26.840 I do know there are people here that are in their 30s and 40s who have still not

00:31:32.220 found a husband or wife.

00:31:34.620 But this is the place to come for God's blessing.

00:31:39.200 And first, there is work to be done on yourself before you are to find a husband or wife.

00:31:44.540 And in this lifetime, many of us are not called to be husbands or wives, but we are called

00:31:49.060 to worship God and remain fully consecrated to His will.

00:31:54.840 you guys be okay with a pedophile coming to your church yes you would be wow yes really would you

00:32:00.480 say yes um only if they become reformed through God oh wow okay because um certain afflictions 0.99

00:32:08.660 you know I've had certain delusions that happened to me through adults raping me when I was a baby

00:32:14.800 different things like that like um and it was doctors you know people who were trusted but I

00:32:20.880 have full memory of these things and so it allowed certain entities that made me think that I wanted

00:32:26.280 to be a man made me think that I wanted to hurt men in certain ways and the devil floods you so

00:32:32.580 you used to want you used to want to be a man yeah really yeah did you do like the surgery or something

00:32:36.940 no no no no but I was like you know I was 270 I was muscular I was strong and I was very much

00:32:44.140 independent but that is all of the devil but how the lord works is that when you forgive others who

00:32:51.100 did these things to you you forgive the people who so would you be okay with keeping them away

00:32:55.660 from children though would that like maybe just some protections for the kids well yes but it's

00:33:01.580 the it's the whole thing would you say yes also uh we're on hollow ground so all children are

00:33:06.260 protected by the holy spirit here and no evil entity can reign okay so you would just be okay

00:33:13.660 with them being in the congregation. I'm really shocked. It's not a thing of them. Okay. It is

00:33:18.880 entities that are on people, just like entities would bother me in my dreams, in my daily life.

00:33:24.660 It is, it is things who have the right to be there because through your unforgiveness,

00:33:29.520 you give them the right and God allows it because it is not until you forgive what was done wrong

00:33:36.500 to you. And then you forgive yourself and you work on those things that those desires, those

00:33:41.200 delusions get stripped away and then they are no more. One, some things that used to turn me on or

00:33:47.420 used to like be a thing. Now I just feel sorrow about it. There is no, because when you consecrate

00:33:54.320 yourself to the Lord truly, he washes you. Would you, how do you guys treat if a woman dresses 1.00

00:34:00.040 immodestly? Do they tell her to change or do they not say anything? And I'm curious, would this be 1.00

00:34:05.900 okay in church or the shoulders or it would be too much? The shoulders are usually covered just

00:34:10.700 because it can be distracting you know what i mean there is beauty in the feminine physique it's not

00:34:15.980 so much about control it is about this is a the mass is an entire prayer yeah i totally respect

00:34:22.460 i'm just wondering i'm not going in there but if i was would they tell do they tell the women to

00:34:26.860 change no no there's there's women who have shown up with skirts before the knees like you know

00:34:31.260 cleavage or different things it is not for us to judge it is in god's working that people become

00:34:36.460 more modest and try and see themselves differently you just give them love and we are not called to

00:34:42.820 judge we are just called to be loving in God's workings through their mind he will help them

00:34:47.200 with modesty is there ever like if somebody's committing sins regular like maybe a guy's

00:34:51.720 hooking up with a lot of the girls or a girl's hooking up with a lot of the guys will they ask

00:34:56.100 them to leave the church if they're like causing too much sin or would they keep having them attend

00:35:00.280 um those things aren't really known here but if they were they would definitely be um you know

00:35:08.780 taken aside and spoken to and prayed over because a lot of things need to be cast out when people

00:35:14.920 are able to be a vessel for the evil spirit it is because there is unforgiveness there is certain

00:35:20.340 things and that allow him to have authority to work through them to attack people who are usually

00:35:26.020 called to a higher power like you'll find if you ask priests and stuff they are attacked heavily

00:35:31.060 their families are attacked heavily wait they can get married here i thought they could okay no no

00:35:35.620 no but it's when you're called to god and when you're serving him you will always be attacked

00:35:40.940 in ways that are supernatural but you don't fear and you stay still and you don't retaliate with

00:35:46.040 anger you retaliate with the understanding that all anger comes from pain all tearing apart things 0.76

00:35:53.580 comes from pain and they're giving the dark one authority but you have to realize you're covered 0.97

00:35:58.020 in the blood of Christ you give him authority those things will expel from you and over time 0.97

00:36:03.700 he cleans you he can clean you like that but most things have to be because we are in a place where

00:36:08.640 it's our will he he he we have to walk with him it's not it instant gratification is not a thing

00:36:15.380 that will help you yeah so it's it's just basically like the spiritualness of it it's all very

00:36:21.100 supernatural but he will walk with you he will work with you but people wanting to judge and

00:36:26.540 pinpoint you're doing this and it's like well remove the stake from your own eye in your own

00:36:30.980 way you have your own sins and just because they sin in a different way or are held in a different

00:36:36.780 way like I've had people who wanted to have like such attacks and everybody was you know everybody

00:36:42.780 wants to get mad at them for certain things but when you approach them with love that demon flees

00:36:48.140 What do you think about people that say that church is a get out of jail free card?

00:36:53.000 It is not because, you know, the Lord will judge us all for what we do, whether it's done in secret or anything.

00:37:00.300 He sees everything. So there is no people who want to have that again are operating in fear.

00:37:05.700 They think, you know, this or that. But the Lord works on us.

00:37:09.240 But he knows how much you are wanting to be a vessel of him or a vessel of the other.

00:37:14.000 And we can only serve one master at a time.

00:37:16.360 so you are always in servitude of someone. What are female sins that women tend to do more than 1.00

00:37:24.640 men? Idolize and idolize a man over the Lord and so they think oh he was my meant to be he was this 0.91

00:37:34.420 he was that they fall into lust because how much they want that man instead of honoring what God

00:37:39.640 calls us to do which is to wait to wait until marriage and if it is the right one he will

00:37:44.600 respect that. The wrong one, of course, is going to push you because he's an inhabitant of the dark

00:37:50.300 entities. He's not being a vessel for Christ. So he's not ready. He's not ready because especially 0.99

00:37:55.800 usually people who break before marriage, they will have so much more of that same attack and

00:38:00.920 then wonder why cheating happens and everything. Wouldn't the solution just be to get married

00:38:05.060 younger? Because biologically, you're like your predisposition to reproduce at like 18, you know,

00:38:11.480 pretty young. So it's pretty a normal feeling to want to have. I don't know if it's a, I don't know

00:38:15.780 if it's like a entity or anything. It just seems like it's biology. Yeah. So wouldn't the solution

00:38:21.340 just be for the women to get married younger? It is, but it's to first in your childhood and 1.00

00:38:26.840 growing up, it is very important for families to go to church. It's very important for them

00:38:30.880 to understand the supernatural of everything and to be consecrated to the Lord. So when they do

00:38:35.860 meet their first love, who they are, you know, they're both walking in a Holy spirit to where

00:38:40.300 can be blessed in there together. And that would be a dream for all of us, you know, but all of us

00:38:44.940 were raised differently. It's a modern world. Yeah. Some of us come late. Some of us have no

00:38:49.220 idea and in our ignorance and in our, you know, we, we sin and everything. So yes, we should be

00:38:55.060 married at the age that we fill it, but fear, different things get in the way. Well, wouldn't

00:38:59.900 you say it's kind of, since women are more attractive when we're younger? Yeah. Wouldn't 0.99

00:39:04.700 you say it's more in the woman's control when people get married? Because it's not like most 1.00

00:39:09.880 men have a lot of choice when they're young you know they don't tend to get choice till they're

00:39:13.220 older so like wouldn't you say if if um the age of first marriage is going up or people aren't

00:39:19.360 married it's more and the choice because even you said that men ask you out at the church right

00:39:23.840 yeah so yeah um it's something that you can't control because you know the man who i deeply

00:39:30.160 loved wasn't you know he died last week but he wasn't um he wasn't conventionally attractive to

00:39:37.400 many people but to me he had such a light that that that light within him that servitude you

00:39:44.300 know that's what drew me that's what drew me i could see within him through the lord you know

00:39:50.660 and and people who are meant to be with certain people it's not about the outside because the

00:39:56.880 outside ages freak accidents happen all sorts of things it is who you're called to be um just

00:40:04.460 weakened heart and everything like I don't want to get in I don't want to get into it it was a it

00:40:09.140 was an insulin shock type thing okay we don't know the specifics but you know we're all too

00:40:14.300 we're all too young for that but we don't have you know the power no no no it's like he was

00:40:21.380 baptized and we both were like in sin in our in our younger years but he's always been my only one

00:40:27.020 and because I serve I serve God in such a way he was heavily attacked but in ways that we did want

00:40:33.940 certain things but you know you should have seen his you should have seen his funeral there are

00:40:37.960 hundreds of people who he touched who he spoke life into who he did all these things because

00:40:43.540 those were his fruits and when I first met him I already knew that was a fruit tree I didn't need

00:40:49.240 to see anything I could feel it you know and with most of us who are drawn to be who we are meant to

00:40:54.880 be with it's going to be a supernatural thing so it's not about the how someone looks it's not

00:40:59.700 about like oh they're so hot because that that desire that fleshly thing will go away it's about

00:41:06.620 their posture in christ it's about how they serve and and it's deeper than that so yes there will

00:41:11.840 be people you're attracted to but um it's very important to be with who you are attracted to

00:41:17.700 because me he was to me he was the most beautiful man well you don't want to be married to someone

00:41:21.420 you're not attracted yes yes that's very important and what most people get wrong here is that i've

00:41:26.060 heard people say like I married him but I wasn't exactly to attract it no do not do that because

00:41:31.880 it's not fair to the guy it's not fair to the guy at all and it's not fair to you either because

00:41:36.300 you know you have supernaturally you're supposed to have that to where like you know you're like

00:41:41.180 even though we're going through this trouble they are just so beautiful to me like I want to

00:41:44.760 understand I want to serve I want like you know and stuff it has to align so don't just marry

00:41:50.540 somebody because they check boxes that is so disgusting well thank you so much this interview

00:41:54.800 She's been great. Thank you guys. Thank you guys. Appreciate you.

Pearl - July 16, 2026

I Asked Traditional Catholics Whether Or Not Women Should Obey

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