00:00:30.000good afternoon good evening ladies and gentlemen welcome to another episode of pearl daily here on
00:00:50.000the audacity network today i have a special guest on the show leftist animal rights activist blm
00:00:57.680activist and palestine activists welcome to the show jj also my guitar teacher hello
00:01:05.280hey pearl so thanks for having me thanks for coming so i was telling them the other day
00:01:10.320we're the most unlikely of pals because we agree on like nothing pretty much yeah but i just thought
00:01:17.840it'd be interesting to have you on to get another point of view because i'm always talking i never
00:01:22.240get any pushback or back and forth so i just thought it would be fun to have you on so thank
00:01:27.280you for coming glad to be here so the first thing that we're going to talk about today that i thought
00:01:32.480was kind of interesting so there's a man in scotland who got 16 years for stealthing now
00:01:40.080stealthing refers to the deliberate removal or tampering of a condom during sexual activity
00:01:47.200without the partner's knowledge or agreement while often dismissed as a mere breach of trust
00:01:54.400stealthing can lead to unintended pregnancies, transmissions of STIs, and significant emotional
00:02:00.720trauma. So we're going to play the clip. So you might want to put on your headphones.
00:02:10.320To jail for stealthing, removing a condom without his partner's consent.
00:02:15.500Luke Ford was found guilty of 19 offenses, including seven counts of rape, one of which
00:02:20.820was stealthy. It's the first time someone's been prosecuted for this in Scotland and only
00:02:25.680the third conviction ever in the UK. Ford, who claimed to have worked as Brad Pitt's
00:02:30.680stand-in on the set of World War Z, will spend 16 years in prison. One of his nine victims
00:02:36.800gave Ford a condom before sex and thought he'd used it, but he later admitted that he
00:02:41.440hadn't and told her to take a morning-after pill or have an abortion if she was pregnant.
00:02:46.700were able to prove that this is rape. The prosecutor, Katrina Parks, said Ford was a
00:02:51.700serial offender who demonstrated no respect for the consent of victims. She urged any victim of
00:02:57.760similar offending to come forward and seek help. So what do you think? Stealthing is relatively
00:03:04.820a new law. So do you think that, to me, I'm not sure if it's the equivalent of rape.
00:03:12.440what do you think well it doesn't go into all the details about uh because i think it's a nine
00:03:20.300counts yeah of rape including one of stealthing so there may have been other things he was doing
00:03:24.740besides stealthing that that led to the 16 years um but i mean i think that's absolutely disgusting
00:03:31.960that's deplorable i i couldn't imagine someone doing that to another person without their consent
00:03:37.400i think it's disgusting but i think if he got it for um if basically if he got it i think that's a
00:03:45.480bit harsh 16 years like i don't i think that's a little bit harsh well this was a repeat offender
00:03:51.880yeah i know but the thing is it's like um women commit paternity fraud all the time and that's
00:03:58.760not illegal so it just seems like we keep increasing all the things that men can't do
00:04:04.760like that women or men can't do to women but we don't hold women accountable on the other end
00:04:09.580but we're talking like you can't stealth someone like you can't take a condom off without permission
00:04:14.360i mean that's i mean i think it's wrong but i just i think 16 years is a bit much and the other
00:04:19.860question 16 for stealthing those yeah but how do you the other question i have is how do you
00:04:24.080multiple how do you prove that you know what i mean like how do you prove that she said no it's
00:04:29.920just like a he said she said i think he even admitted it to her i think that's how she found
00:04:35.180out he was like oh by the way you should take this pill because i didn't based on that video i
00:04:39.480don't know anything else about this case my i think it's wrong but my concern is that's going
00:04:44.860to get abused as a law the same way that sexual assault is now abused because it turns into a he
00:04:51.480said she said and you see a lot of guys going to prison falsely i'm if i had to see a lot of people
00:04:58.100get away with it that don't uh get convicted too because victims don't come forward so
00:05:04.100yeah but i would disagree like i think you would disagree with it yeah because i think that most
00:05:10.180of the time it's like women just like like when i was doing my show like i told you how i went to
00:05:16.180england i was interviewing a thousand people what i found is when women said they were abused
00:05:21.300assaulted whatever was that they essentially when you ask them like three questions their
00:05:27.860story doesn't make sense and i just found that to be more common when they said like they didn't
00:05:32.900come forward or didn't go to the police their stories just lacked evidence i mean it's hard
00:05:39.540for them to prove after the the fact that's why a lot of them don't get well can i give you an
00:05:44.500example so there is one woman in london where she came on my show and she said she was abused
00:05:50.340now normally my gut reaction used to be to believe women right i used to think you know why would you
00:05:56.100lie about something so serious right right then she says i was abused and i say what happened
00:06:02.580specifically like what happened leading up to the fight because i think if you're comfortable enough
00:06:07.780to say it on a public platform like if you're going to make the assertion everyone knows who
00:06:12.020your ex-boyfriend is i should be able to ask questions to make sure you're telling the truth
00:06:16.660and what happened was he pushed her down the stairs because she refused to leave
00:06:22.800so he was trying to shove her out of the house and she ends up so she said oh he threw me down
00:06:28.100a flight of stairs but what really happened was she came into his house without telling him
00:06:32.780his son was there they were fighting and he was trying to get her to leave she wouldn't leave
00:06:37.100and so while maybe he shouldn't have pushed her like out of the house definitely probably shouldn't
00:06:42.600but my point is she was trespassing you can't trespass on people's property she was the one
00:06:47.380who committed the first crime sure but then you dial the police and do you i agree it was stupid
00:06:53.220it was i i totally agree with you but i just find that's way more common is that people like
00:07:01.260people take it women have a tendency to take advantage of the laws does that make sense i
00:07:06.620think everybody has a tendency to do that i don't think it's based on male or female i people will
00:07:12.940yeah that's just people do that yeah well i agree but i think there's more room for women to do it
00:07:20.540than men i don't think men can really falsely accuse women the way that women can falsely accuse
00:07:25.200men and so so so so steal thing for example i just i see this as a negative because even though
00:07:36.000think it's wrong i just have the feeling that it's going to be taken advantage of
00:07:42.960i'd rather that than a world where uh stealthing is not prosecuted and a guy gets away with doing
00:07:48.080that i mean that's that's they said it's horrible yeah i just i think that it's worse when you're
00:07:56.080putting innocent men in jail then like i think that's personally worse well because someone
00:08:02.080taken off a con that's an l that's a big l you know my thoughts on the judicial system and the
00:08:07.520whole crime and punishment in america so i know a little bit i know you want to abolish the police
00:08:13.840or something but i don't know massive reform we do two-hour lessons so it's not that we don't go
00:08:18.720that deep you know but yeah i think there's major reform that needs to be needs to be done and i
00:08:25.440think a lot of countries have had success with uh crime and reform type of uh system versus crime
00:08:32.000and punishment um because like you said a lot of innocent people go to jail on trumped up charges
00:08:38.640um and i mean that's also deplorable but that doesn't mean we don't have laws to protect
00:08:44.240people um from things like stealthing yeah because it's yeah yeah like it's it's tough
00:08:50.720because i think it's wrong i think spending years in prison for it is a bit extreme for me for the
00:08:57.840crime but i see it i see it getting abused this was a serial offender i think there were nine
00:09:06.400you know accounts of this or this or rape or i don't know all the details of it but it sounds
00:09:11.680like this was i mean that's what was a multiple church that's what they that's what they say
00:09:17.040i'm a little bit skeptical but i'd have to look more into the case i just was more curious on
00:09:22.400your thoughts on the stealthing law so i think it's a good law to have i don't think people
00:09:26.880should do that to other people and um i don't think you got 16 years for just that i don't know
00:09:31.360what the what it was for just that one charge but i'm glad it got prosecuted okay so moving on
00:09:39.120we are going to talk about nick fuentes so oh boy so we're going to talk about nick recently
00:09:48.240was attacked now the initial this is the initial attack that happened to him or um
00:09:55.840initially a woman showed up at his door unannounced so and he ends up pepper spraying her
00:10:01.520so this was the original what are you doing the original footage hi oh my god what are you doing
00:10:08.120he had gone viral for a a clip that he made saying your body my choice far right streamer
00:10:16.080he ends up getting a charge with battery in the alleged attack of the woman ends up going to jail
00:10:23.060and she ends up pressing charges and everyone sort of said that he shouldn't have did that
00:10:32.900that it was like an overreaction which okay so here so this is her pressing charges with the
00:10:38.900police okay so so what happened okay so i'm just asking this is important for you to realize
00:10:46.580are you familiar with the resident no i'm not okay so i'm not going to add extra to it
00:10:52.660His name is Nick Cuentos, and he is a white supremacist, probably, and he was on his very popular YouTube channel talking about how after Trump won, to women everywhere, basically, your body, my choice.
00:11:09.200Okay, I got kind of somebody that's kind of doing this.
00:11:12.540So there are a lot of people who are doxing him because he basically threatened every woman and their daughters.
00:11:58.920And what was the reason for that, for videotaping his house?
00:12:01.480Because I wanted to show people that there was no, that there were no, people are making
00:12:10.220claims that they're going to send deliveries to him of like dog poo and stuff and I was showing
00:12:14.920there is no there are no boxes of that there okay and so a woman driving by said ring his doorbell
00:12:21.000and say hello so there are no signs on there saying anything about no solicitors okay um so
00:12:28.940I rang the doorbell immediately opened the door sprayed me with pepper spray and pushed me down
00:12:34.080the steps. He sprayed you with pepper spray? Yes, he did. And it got in your eyes? Yes.
00:12:40.020I'll hold my face. Okay, before we go in the film, I'm going to call an ambulance to make sure you open. No, but I want you to get checked out. Whatever it is.
00:12:49.560Can you roll an ambulance this way? She's stating that she got pepper spray in my face.
00:12:54.120Okay. So he opens the door? He opened the door in the same movement. He sprayed me and pushed me down
00:13:03.540the steps and you fell backwards i fell onto the sidewalk and you know kind of rolled he grabbed
00:13:12.420my phone and went back and okay that's her side of the story and they end up like i'm not going
00:13:17.940to play the rest because it's like another three minutes but he the police basically ask if he
00:13:22.020wants to press charges and then he does i'm going to continue keep it on because i'm going to show
00:13:25.940you the next part um then this is the other side of the story so this was i think i wrote down one
00:13:34.820minute mark i think it was nine minutes uh there we go this is not your eyes because you can sign
00:13:42.020a medical refusal and then you don't have to go with them but i do want them to check your your
00:13:46.500eyes out okay give me a second okay so i'm getting i'm getting a couple things about
00:14:50.060But, I mean, you know, this one's important, man, you make one bad joke and this happens, especially right now at the Trump one, man, okay?
00:25:10.520i just i cannot believe this happened i yeah that's terrifying has anything happened with
00:25:25.700you like doing activist work like anyone you know something similar has happened to or
00:25:30.560i mean nothing to that level um i've been assaulted by you know random pastors by many
00:25:37.300times and so a lot of my good morning friends and uh in the movement um but i mean no one's ever
00:25:44.740like a weapon like that i've been threatened with weapons before but i've been no one's ever shown
00:25:49.860up in my doorstep with a weapon or like you know pull the weapon on me at a at a protest but i've
00:25:55.340gotten threats of of violence of weapons saying gonna go home and grab x y and z um but they
00:26:01.620never came back and showed up with it this is the last one so this is the neighbor saying his side
00:26:06.160of the story in berwin police say when they caught up with the 24 year old murder suspect
00:26:12.800he started shooting at them they returned fire killing him it was around 11 30 wednesday night
00:26:20.800when scott wish kobe says he noticed berwin police on his block shining a floodlight
00:26:26.480appearing to be searching for someone that someone ended up in scott's basement and when i turned on
00:26:32.160the light the guy was standing at the end of the end of the basement and just started shooting
00:26:36.800and he shot shot shot i i blocked my son and i told him to get upstairs and get his mother and
00:26:42.480get out of the house police say that man who opened fire was 24 year old john lyons of westchester
00:26:48.640scott says lyons shot and killed two of his dogs before taking off the dog is is is really emotional
00:26:54.720the how did I not get hit as he was shooting so many times at me is also in my mind you know
00:27:02.780how he got from south two hour way drive to here into my basement is also what I'm trying to there's
00:27:09.780just so many that you're trying to figure out that I don't know before ending up in the basement
00:27:13.460police say Lyons was wanted in connection to a triple homicide in Mohammed which is about two
00:27:19.040and a half hours south of Berwyn police there found three people who had been shot and killed
00:27:23.900The Champaign County coroner identified the victims as 61-year-old Janice Mason, 26-year-old Sarah Mason, and 23-year-old Caleb Mason.
00:27:33.460Last night, members of that community gathered at a local church for a vigil.
00:27:37.580A lot of questions about, like, why something like that would happen to someone that did not deserve it in any way.
00:27:45.140Back in Berwyn, police say Lyons ran from Scott's basement and police spotted him in a nearby yard where they ordered him to drop his weapon.
00:27:52.160instead they say he started shooting at them they returned fire killing him five gunshots and then
00:27:58.440she called the cops anxious and nervous and the pit of my stomach that that happened on our right
00:28:03.300here now we do expect to get more information i just can't imagine what motivated him like i
00:28:13.320understand nick's a polarizing figure but to the point where you show up at his house like was he
00:28:18.980mentally unstable was he a part of a certain like extremist group that gets together and plans these
00:28:27.180kind of things like what do you think motivated him i i have no idea yeah i mean i think we're
00:28:34.500gonna have to uh follow this and see because you know it wasn't just showing up at nick's
00:28:39.440he killed three people in his hometown um and they don't seem to know the motive of that either and
00:28:45.660that wouldn't have been connected to Nick.
00:28:47.560So I can't believe this was politically motivated
00:28:50.020or any, you know, wasn't some sort of vigilante justice.
00:28:54.720I mean, maybe that's why he showed up at Nick's house
00:28:56.460was for that, but this just sounds like