00:49:31.820So most men are on OnlyFans willingly.
00:49:35.300I don't believe that OnlyFans has manipulated young men or polluted.
00:49:40.320No, men are choosing to do it, and I don't have a problem with it.
00:49:43.260I mean, everything can be done too much, but the average guy on OnlyFans, the average man is just trying to make a paycheck and support his family, and his wife is a fat, argumentative broad, and he wants to rub one out because he's not getting sex, so he uses OnlyFans.
01:01:10.920I just think like the way other countries do it, like Australia, Germany, like there's a genuine need for prostitution and for sex work and all that.
01:01:28.220Like, if you're going to be a prostitute, then be a real prostitute and actually, you know, suffer the ramifications of that, just like every other career.
01:01:48.700It's way too much in favor of the creator.
01:01:52.580And who is, you know, they're really, what they're actually benefiting from is the fact that prostitution is illegal. They're actually a little cartel on, you know, on that, on that, on that rule. And they shouldn't be getting out there. That's, that's an economically ridiculous business model. So really the, the, if poor, I'm sorry, if prostitution was, was legal, they wouldn't have a business anyway.
01:02:20.980i can i can tell you so you know i'm i'm in my mid 40s and i come from the generation where you
01:02:28.680know dvds and stuff like that you know well before the internet when you were young and so when i
01:02:35.180started seeing free corn on the internet you know the hub and stuff like that i thought that that
01:02:40.940was the ultimate right there and i was wondering like what's going to be the next if there's so
01:02:46.040much free corn on the internet like what's the next step and guys i had no idea it was going to
01:02:51.780be only fans i had no idea like this whole concept of a parasocial relationship these guys just give
01:02:57.840i i couldn't have conceived of this when i was young trying to find you know dvds to watch it
01:03:04.560was crazy like i i huh do you do you guys um you're got friends in sexless marriages do you
01:03:10.200think they would have it in them to see a prostitute if it was legal I would say yes
01:03:17.260yep I think they would actually oh go ahead Doug well because uh incarceration and
01:03:25.480and what comes from from incarceration and being arrested is enough of a deterrent for most men
01:03:32.440if that wasn't there a lot of guys would be hitting on prostitutes yeah I I strongly think
01:03:38.160that all these sting operations and all these things that they've done to really like make it
01:03:45.440make prostitution seem like it's such a taboo thing it's really papering over the fact that
01:03:52.080it's been a pretty mainstream part of any of most societies and there's a lot of social gaslighting
01:04:01.000going on um that that's not that that's not the case and i think this all this only fan stuff is
01:04:08.580like it's trying to capture the vapors of of that but it's really not doing a good job of it
01:04:15.520so i think all the the parasites need to go um and anybody who's going to actually
01:04:21.660be in the sex work industry needs to be having sex you know what do you what do you guys think
01:04:28.480of that do you agree disagree and different i wouldn't disagree because he's just offering
01:04:33.840solutions but what i would probably alter is the places that it's legal meaning prostitution
01:04:38.660i think corn is also legal i don't think it's outlawed like corn is not outlawed there
01:04:43.540um also you know you got to let the free market be the free market like some people want to go
01:04:48.440to the restaurant and eat and some people want it online and so net net you ain't always be able to
01:04:53.840get up in the beat up car roll down the window ask the girl out the window or go to the brothel
01:04:59.520somebody want it digitally like that's like saying let's do away where freaking uber eats and you just
01:05:04.580got to go to the restaurant like there's many shaped forms of fashions where people want to
01:05:08.740consume a product and then also there is actual free prawn so the guys who go and pay want something
01:05:17.380entirely different most people don't do it they just go click on some free website and do their
01:05:22.880thing so they're asking for something else if they're doing a paywall and they're actually
01:05:27.760paying an actual specific content creator so it's a whole entire different thing it's like bruv i
01:05:33.200don't even get it i'm like bro why don't you just use the free stuff they want something else that's
01:05:37.520why they're paying them you know that crowd is that crowd you know what i heard it is it's like
01:05:42.240a lot of girls on tick tock they do like what i eat in a day and just these like
01:05:46.800you know a little cute whatever and you know they just have their link in the bio
01:05:52.160and it's like 50 bucks for their nudes they're like i kind of want to see what she looks like
01:05:56.480naked i don't think i think a lot of it i guess i don't know probably the top spenders are probably
01:06:01.520pretty into it but i think a lot of it like i've heard the when we interviewed the top only fans
01:06:07.040model or whatever she just said it's like a lot of people just want to see the girls nudes
01:06:12.320so yeah i'll leave you at this one point um because pearl i think this might be applicable to
01:06:18.960some of the stuff you say that you know sexual like any like any sexual action act there's a
01:06:30.420pricing dynamic and you know in that that you know even if you don't directly if it's not directly
01:06:36.700you know we don't know what it is but it reverberates throughout the whole market so
01:06:39.940a lot of times when you talk about like you know these women are way overcharging per active sex
01:06:46.440that's partially a function of how inaccessible it is for for most people so the people who are
01:06:52.760the going to be the biggest um most against uh legal prostitution are going to be
01:07:00.560women on unmasked who would have a lot to lose from it it being legal so i think a lot of things
01:07:06.920that you're seeing um both in terms of like only fans sex work and then also just in normal marriages
01:07:14.020are kind of downstream effects of how inaccessible it is for for most men that really
01:07:19.020tilts the scale in favor of women so yeah makes sense that was a really good point thanks for
01:07:24.880calling in of course thank you thank you welcome to the show sean um what do you think do you think
01:07:32.300we should make a statue for lenoid should we make him a saint in america um or or do you think he's
01:07:40.500the villain and any other general thoughts on the topic go ahead sorry yeah i would say you know he
01:07:47.320is a hero to all the women who no longer have to get married in order to economically get by and
01:07:53.940they should be the ones who build that statue because they have made you know he has basically
01:07:59.680made them filthy rich in ways that they would never have been able to do it on their own a lot
01:08:04.320of people don't understand the reason why youtube makes a lot of money is they do not create any of
01:08:08.780content they handle distribution and they've learned to do that at scale that makes their
01:08:14.600platform very very valuable yep and you know you can think of all the content creators as the you
01:08:20.800know quote-unquote sex workers of the the content industry and youtube's effectively the pimp right
01:08:26.820only fans basically did that but in the you know corn industry right or in the sort of live streaming
01:08:34.300corn they're basically the twitch of corn right and that's how they've managed to make money so
01:08:39.760i would say whether it's you know uh riley reed or any of the other girls sophie rain you know
01:08:45.720all those girls have became filthy rich because of this guy and they should be building a statue
01:08:50.160for him now all the people who are complaining about it are either christian conservatives who
01:08:54.960are just trying to make money off of this topic until they move on to the next theme or it's the
01:09:00.200the simps and the incels who are basically not getting girlfriends or what have you and quite
01:09:06.840frankly many of them are paying these women anyways so they're a little bit hypocritical on
01:09:10.600that and but they're the ones complaining because now they have to compete against you know female
01:09:16.680attention which is now online whether it's instagram or only fans or what have you
01:09:20.920so uh i think he's absolutely the hero to all these girls who no longer have to deal with men
01:09:26.600and they quite frankly if you look at their interests in men you know if you look at
01:09:29.560aaron clary's book he's 100 right is they find any way they can to not get married to not want
01:09:35.320to settle down with an average guy yeah that was a really good point um do you guys have any
01:09:40.840thoughts on that i mean he hit it right on the head man i right on the head uh i'm gonna build
01:09:49.560it too though because i'm a feminist so i'm gonna help the feminist build the statue okay i might
01:09:54.520funded so so sean you you said that he's a hero to the women did you separate the women and the men
01:10:02.200because you think he's not a hero to men because this whole time you've been saying that he's been
01:10:07.480a hero to women but what about to everybody else i mean he's a hero to all the conservative men
01:10:12.040who now have this talking point that they can go around and claim that oh these women are being
01:10:16.520abused and blah blah blah the men are being brainwashed by this just count the the hours
01:10:22.600that whether it's daily wire or whether it's folks in the tradcon space or all the you know
01:10:27.480fake conservative women that are out there the e-girls how many times they've mentioned only
01:10:31.960fans as if all these women are truly on only fans and not doing any of this stuff on instagram or
01:10:37.000any other social media channel right this is just a talking point to them and three years from now
01:10:41.640they're going to be on to the next thing and half of them might be on only fans too the e-girls you
01:10:46.280never know i would say this part oh my bad go ahead oh i was just gonna say i think lauren
01:10:52.840southern might as well just drop one yeah or sarah stop might as well you never know they
01:10:59.320might be on there too but go ahead no i think if the average guys look rave if you want to be some
01:11:05.480if you want to be mad at somebody i would say the person who created instagram that's who you
01:11:09.640actually need to be worried about as far as the only fans it's like i live in thailand right i
01:11:15.560I live in a place called Padte and everybody's like, oh, all the girls are X.
01:11:19.620There's so many girls who just choose not to do that.
01:11:22.800Now, of course, they still run in game in their own ways, right?
01:11:25.540Do they probably go out with a guy so they can, you know, go to this nice beach or this night?
01:11:29.740So probably, but they don't hit the block and sell that poot tank.
01:11:44.740what do you want this girl to be forced to get married and then little do you know your girl
01:11:50.000wants to be on only fans and put her box on it but you want to ecclesiastically preach to her
01:11:55.480every day to stop it it's inside her lilith is real yeah so she wants to be a goddamn jazabelle
01:12:02.700sean some of them have the spirit let it go i 100 sean what do you think about this i was talking
01:12:09.140to someone yesterday and we're talking about nature right and like it meant we've been
01:12:16.540protected and provided for so long that it's in our nature but feminism has has made it so we're
01:12:22.200acting for our own preservation we we have to act against our nature asking i.e it used to be
01:12:29.520understood if i protected and provided for you i would get sex exclusivity you take care of my kids
01:12:35.120But women call that misogyny a patriarchy, right?
01:12:38.260Anyway, so my friend said, because I said getting married and having kids is in a woman's nature, but feminism has them resisting the nature.
01:12:48.320And my friend said he never thought that coupling with a man or being married to a man was in a woman's nature.
01:12:55.440Having kids is, but getting married and coupling with a man never was.
01:13:01.300women just had to do it to survive. What do you think about that?
01:13:05.820I 100% agree with that. The vast majority of women, even today, only get married when they
01:13:12.180see that it's in their best interest relative to their opportunity set. That's the only time they
01:13:18.000realistically do it. You do not see women at age 18 when they're the most beautiful that they've
01:13:23.200ever been, or you could say 18 to 23, somewhere in that range. The vast majority of women are not
01:13:27.880signing up for marriage. And it's not because there's not enough men to go around. There's
01:13:31.720plenty of men older. It's they look at their opportunity set as it relates to getting educated
01:13:36.720and potentially being around even wealthier men and being in those social circles so that they
01:13:41.940could advance themselves or going on vacation or having fun or screwing around or having, you know,
01:13:47.700sexual escapades or whatever it is. They see more excitement in going down that route for a period
01:13:52.800of time and they know they can always double back later on to get married if and should they need to
01:13:58.400and the vast majority of even very attractive women who you know go into their 30s still know
01:14:03.200they have that opportunity should they decide it's in their interests as it competes against the rest
01:14:08.400of their life and so i 100 believe that the vast majority of women historically only got married
01:14:14.080because they saw it was in the best interest of themselves and their children to do so yeah because
01:14:18.960you look at i mean if you want to see who people are look at what they do and they have choice
01:14:22.800i actually i would have i would have taken away even the the mothering thing i'm like if women
01:14:29.420want to be mothers and it's in our nature why do we keep killing our kids a hundred percent right
01:14:34.560uh and you know as it relates to only fans as if you know women are being forced to do it or
01:14:38.120whatever it is right uh there was an old saying uh that it was in a movie i can't remember which
01:14:43.140one it was but this guy says he sells drugs and someone responded no drug sells themselves
01:14:47.700like you know it's attractive enough and that's why people do it people don't do it because
01:14:53.060they're exposed to it if that makes sense people do it because they want to do it and the kind of
01:14:58.100women who do only fans for money do it because they want to it's not because it's not a crime
01:15:02.340of necessity or any of this nonsense they do it because they want to and the vast majority of sex
01:15:06.800workers if you talk to them like if you go on reddit sex workers and you go to that subreddit
01:15:10.760the vast majority of those sex workers brag about it so that should kind of tell you something right
01:15:15.940They're not ashamed of it. They talk about how many gifts they've gotten from older men or how
01:15:20.080many trips they've been on. It's only the women from these very poor countries that are on it who
01:15:24.620talk about kind of doing it against their will or dealing with bad clients. But the vast majority of
01:15:29.440American women that are primarily on that subreddit will brag about it. And we'll talk about
01:15:33.880how they've got to do this, that and the other, how they got in a Range Rover once, right? So
01:15:38.160it's more about, you know, in a developed country where you have free choice, it's more about doing
01:15:43.760it because it's in your interest what do you think sean yeah no i agree i agree with everything
01:15:50.580somebody everybody just said and then also there's people who are okay with it if you ever watch a
01:15:55.560financial audit right there'll be guys on there with girls who used to be on only fans currently
01:15:59.640on only fans so there's a small segment of guys who are actually going to retire those ladies
01:16:05.040once they're like hey look i want out i want something probably quote unquote normal and so
01:16:10.260at the end of the day i just like let it go as far as average guys who's like i want to get married
01:16:14.600i want to do this well look you got to look at it as somebody is doing you a favor stop trying to
01:16:18.860save a oh at the end of the day those girls are going to do it they have the drive to do it
01:16:23.540it's vastly different there's some girls i know out here in thailand that work at 7-eleven
01:16:28.180making like two dollars an hour and they could go out on the block and sell that thing for way
01:16:33.580more but they just don't they don't and there's more 7-elevens than there is girls selling that
01:16:39.460thing so we get caught up with a couple of a stars making all the money pearl do everybody make a
01:16:45.760bunch of money on youtube no exactly it's a small few so a lot of these broads even on only fans
01:16:53.540they're just in and out but what you probably have to worry about is the girls who are on seeking and
01:16:58.380instagram these are the girls who are acting like they're normal but doing prostitution but not
01:17:03.700really acting so i'm like bro if you want to actually fight somewhere don't worry about the
01:17:08.300only fans those girls have the scarlet letter they're saving a lot of regular men from actually
01:17:13.960trying to think that's a regular girl when she has that jezebel spirit she want to go out there
01:17:18.660and let that thing fly she a pro she's stefan curry she'd like to be on the bed scoring points
01:17:26.680so let her do that and when you're a woman like it's always really obvious who in the friend group
01:17:31.320could go down that route like it's like from a really young age you kind of see it hoes are
01:17:37.200oh i made my hit single okay i'm going to bring up some other people um men versus dating uh you
01:17:46.240got to fix your you got an echo okay rodolfo welcome hi welcome to the show um do you think
01:17:54.560lenoid is the hero or the villain sorry my girlfriend too um i guess it depends on the
01:18:03.520context and i hate to give that kind of an answer but like if you're a christian of course you see
01:18:08.400him as an evil person but if you're not then he's just a businessman and there's that's just it and
01:18:15.440like i was telling my girl because she asked me um if he he was just doing business it's not like
01:18:23.760anybody forced these girls to do anything with it so you know it's like what the other guy said
01:18:30.240about drugs you're not the one selling it you're just the tools or the hand that people get it from
01:18:36.560um and like i think i don't know if you mentioned it before but if you're thinking that he's the
01:18:44.240villain it's because you're thinking that women are naturally just good and perfect and all that
01:18:50.000but you know that with the internet social media and all that it's taken the veil
01:18:55.680off of a lot of people's eyes and now we're realizing that uh the modern female nowadays
01:19:02.800they're not as innocent as we like to think and before i forget this thought uh i think the reason
01:19:08.960why a lot of guys nowadays are so um depressed or whatever about porn and all that is because back
01:19:15.600in the day porn was your last resort as a girl just like the military was the last resort for a
01:19:21.040guy and you know not to you know throw mud on on the military or whatever but that's just you know
01:19:27.320i know growing up i was like damn if i can't make it then i'm just gonna join the military right
01:19:31.440and i know back in the day porn was just the hottest uh the hottest porn star was like
01:19:37.200a middle-aged woman 35 who worked at the grocery store right but now guys are getting bugs because
01:19:43.580they're seeing the beautiful girl next door doing porn so in their head they're like oh you know
01:19:48.920it's just a shock so i think that's why everybody cares about porn nowadays it's because it's
01:19:52.760beautiful girls doing it versus average you know uh grocery store bag ladies doing it yeah because
01:20:00.920it's like a girl they could have dated right or married yeah exactly so it ruins their illusion
01:20:06.520like you know i'm not an innocent man i ain't gonna lie i'm sorry but uh i've seen some beautiful
01:20:12.600girls and i'm like man that's you know you could be doing something else but you're you're doing
01:20:19.440this like you couldn't better yourself like damn um but at the end of the day i had to realize that
01:20:25.220they are an adult just like me and they are capable of their own choices so um i'm not i'm
01:20:31.900sorry to chicken out but i don't i don't know how to answer that because on one hand i do see him
01:20:36.200as a bad dude but then i would have to see the guy who invented the internet as a bad guy and i
01:20:42.620had to see the guy who who made the gun as a bad guy you know at the end of the day it's just a
01:20:47.640tool and it's us people we live in an evil world at the end of the day so we just have to accept
01:20:52.640it like and not to be a bible thumper but there's a verse at the uh in revelations the john is
01:21:00.840talking to jesus or somebody he's like hey well let me go back to earth and tell everybody what's
01:21:04.760going on and jesus or the angel was like why if you're going to be holy be holy and if you're not
01:21:10.040then forget about it and a lot of people like to think that god's going to keep the door open
01:21:14.740forever but no even he even he said he's like hey this is going to shut one day so you know do what
01:21:19.980your time what you will but i'm not going to keep talking to y'all i already did all the work so
01:21:24.040it's up to us now would awful say after me saint leonid rudvinsky
01:21:32.280it paused for a second so i don't know what happened
01:21:43.660oh i said i said ruffle repeat after me you ready saint leonid radvinsky
01:21:53.920i'm sorry dog i can't hear you oh okay never mind all right well thanks for calling in you're a
01:22:01.280great caller that was great so i would have let him stay on but he's got to fix his audio okay
01:22:06.400you guys can hear me right hey guys how you going hey pearl i can hear you fine yeah all right good
01:22:11.600uh welcome to the show zombie um do you think lenoid was this the hero or the villain and why
01:22:17.600uh i i think he purely did it for a business thing um no one starts a business thinking of
01:22:25.200anyone else but to make money um and yeah i say good luck to him i'm not a fan of only fans i'm
01:22:32.080just putting it out there um i think society has gone down the the gurgler if you ask me
01:22:37.920um because i think respect um it's gone out the window the last 30 or 40 years and society's let
01:22:46.320things like this become the norm and i wanted to touch on a couple of things that sean said
01:22:51.920because he was 100 correct um one of the things the guys go to these places for is not just for
01:22:59.700the sex part but they want more from like the emotional connection from they're not getting
01:23:07.140in the real world and i mean how many times do you talk to prostitutes and that and they go oh
01:23:13.920the guy paid me 300 bucks but he just wanted to talk you know what i mean and i think men miss
01:23:19.520that in a relationship as well and and a lot of men do seem to be lonely um and i think that that's
01:23:27.820a big problem in society because um women are a lot of women are looking at relationships as
01:23:34.500transactional and it's a matter of what they get out of it and what they can get out of it
01:23:38.960and um yeah that's basically yeah i think that's a big problem in society now um you go back 40 or
01:23:48.12050 years and people used to get married for love but it's more me me me now you know with no i
01:23:54.600disagree with that i don't think that people got married for love 50 years ago yeah yeah yeah they
01:23:59.860did they did i mean and they used to work maybe men did when of all women have always been in
01:24:07.440business always men have been in love women have been in business period yeah but you have a look
01:24:13.540you have a look at some of the older photos um i'll give you an example if you look at the queen
01:24:19.280when um she was with prince philip there's one photo there she was looking at him and she was
01:24:25.700like in her 80s or something and she still had that look in her eye that she really loved him
01:24:31.560you can tell when a woman loves you you can tell what the way she looks at you when she's not when
01:24:35.820you're not looking at her and um that's what they used to do and that's i think that's missing in
01:24:41.540society now you know and yeah because um back then that was used to try try try and there was
01:24:50.920no such thing as um divorce you used to try until um it worked divorce was a last last ditch effort
01:24:57.900back then but now it's like divorce is the first option that was true then why was the divorce rate
01:25:03.060so high in the 70s like those are women born that got married 20s 30s feminism come in you know i
01:25:11.060mean don't get me wrong yeah but if they were in love it wouldn't matter if feminism was there or
01:25:15.660not well the thing is back then men were pricks as well i'm not i'm not um saying one side was
01:25:22.680better than the other but the thing was that see compromise if you haven't got compromise in the
01:25:30.320relationship then it's not going to work because no one's perfect no one's perfect um and i think
01:25:36.380the tolerance for that is a lot less now and women or women or both um i think a bit of both
01:25:44.940because um because like i said men um men want to be happy you know i mean that's all we want to do
01:25:55.120we want peace no we don't want to be happy bro men we don't get to be happy we want to be satisfied
01:26:01.660we want to be compensating we want something with tangible outcomes and tangible benefits
01:26:07.400happiness nah man i'm sorry go ahead not not not all not all men are like that not you can't paint
01:26:15.300men all men like that men want to be happy they want peace they want to be happy they want to be
01:26:21.020like you said satisfied exactly um but they want to be in a good relationship and they don't want
01:26:28.800the bad there's a lot of bad relationship i was in a sexist marriage for about the last three years
01:26:33.880and then i ended it um okay but i think respect once respect goes out the window
01:26:41.880then everything else goes out the window as well i just think that women may women never
01:26:49.940women had to be with men that's why they married them women never really loved men because as soon
01:26:56.520they got no far divorced all of them went running for for the hills like like i said earlier women's
01:27:03.400nature is to have children but not to be with the man unless it serves their purpose period
01:27:10.520i don't think love really had anything to do with it yeah i think a small percentage maybe
01:27:16.360yeah i think i think a big part of that is yeah women do want to feel safe they want to feel
01:27:21.960supported in a relationship but you got to go back to the core roots people do want to be in
01:27:28.340love still you know it's just that they can't find men want to be in love women don't women
01:27:33.680okay you can download hinge or tinder and go on a date every single day as a woman
01:27:39.160i could do that for two years straight yeah if women wanted to they'd do it like do you think
01:27:45.400as a man wanted to find love and you could go on a date every single day you could do it
01:27:49.760do you really want to do that though what yeah but the thing is do you really want to do that
01:27:59.300yeah like women do it all the time yeah but like if you ever see a woman like trying to find a
01:28:06.220boyfriend they i'm telling you oh yeah their standards are so high i understand that um
01:28:12.660but i think a lot and also too you've got to be careful out there now um there is a lot of
01:28:19.540weirdos as well women don't care about their safety because if they did they wouldn't
01:28:23.840they wouldn't like yeah or all the time yeah you gotta stop believing women yeah 85% of
01:28:31.460solo travel is from the united states that the countries are women women will say that the
01:28:37.340united states isn't safe but then go to delhi india alone they go out at night like women don't
01:28:43.840value their safety at all they get like like they um like last minute resistance is something
01:28:51.140puas have to teach like guys because women get in front of a man and change their mind
01:28:56.220yeah i think with safety would you do that yeah i think with women they um they expect their safety
01:29:05.420to be a right and and it's not it's like it's not a right for anyone to be safe but they think
01:29:12.160you know it's their right to be safe you know and when you're going out it doesn't matter who you
01:29:18.220are man or woman if you're in the wrong part of town and it's late at night i mean you ask him
01:29:23.320for trouble yeah well thanks for calling in this is a great question appreciate it okay let's bring
01:29:30.600in uh wait before actually i do sean did you have something you wanted to say about that i just saw
01:29:39.060you bringing your hands up sorry man i'm just men are in love women are in business a hundred
01:29:46.160percent you know uh that that just showed that like geez louise but go ahead sean yeah i mean
01:29:52.400i noticed all the guys from australia seem to be simps for whatever reason i don't know if they
01:29:55.780have feminist governments down there or media or what but all these guys defending candace owens
01:30:00.880or talking about this that and the other about women just want to be loved that's absolutely
01:30:04.960ridiculous. If you look at the history of how men and women interacted, women did not even want to
01:30:10.140spend time with men until they decided it was in their interest. So it's absolutely ridiculous to
01:30:14.860say otherwise. And what I was kind of saying in the chat is the vast majority of women today,
01:30:19.280and I've actually talked to women, and I've actually asked them this honestly. And many of
01:30:23.180them, if you talk to them one-on-one, they'll agree that the vast majority of them, the reason
01:30:27.560why their standards are high is that they're happy with their current social life of partying,
01:30:32.580doing what they want until their friends start leaving them and start getting married and things
01:30:36.940like that and then they only really want to settle down if it's in their best interest so unless you
01:30:42.540have money or you're very attractive looking next to them on social media etc right that's the only
01:30:48.640time they'll want to settle down and even then they're going to get tired after five and even
01:30:51.720then if you get even older women i've asked like women in their like there's one woman i'm thinking
01:30:56.640of she's in her 50s and honestly um she was so good looking when she was younger even her 50s
01:31:03.040like she gets asked out all the time by like older men obviously but like
01:31:07.400still right she still has a good amount of choice for a woman in her 50s and i ask her about dating
01:31:13.300and like her biggest thing too is she doesn't want to give up time with her her kids she doesn't
01:31:17.820want to give up time like it's kind of the same thing that you're describing it's even women in
01:31:22.180their 50s like after they're divorced feel like that 100 and the way i know this for sure is i've
01:31:28.220created fake dating profiles on hinge for guys like that are in their mid to late 30s of like
01:31:32.840a very attractive guy like i take social media pictures from guys that i know who live in totally
01:31:37.360different states uh who i know are objectively tall good looking good jobs very attractive
01:31:42.760and there'll be women in their late 40s early 50s who are trying to match and being flirtatious with
01:31:50.320you know this sort of character that i've created which kind of tells you that all the stuff that
01:31:54.400they say they want they don't care for they're looking for that feeling they had in their 20s
01:32:00.480even when they're in their late 40s and 50s and so this idea that women mature and all this stuff
01:32:05.520this is absolutely ridiculous i knew it was cooked when i had to dd for my grandma when i was in high
01:32:11.520school and um because i got like grounded so i had to live with my grandma for a month long story
01:32:17.840different day but I ended up like being her designated driver because she liked to drink
01:32:23.180and we went to this karaoke bar and I'm there no one thinks about that women start dating again
01:32:29.080after their husbands die so it was all the widowed like women and they're like 60s and 70s talking
01:32:35.420about dating like they still date and it was kind of the same thing you're describing and I remember
01:32:42.240being like 17 or 16 and thinking they sound like me and my friends like they sound exactly like me
01:32:49.040and my friends talking about boys sound and they're in their 70s 100 exactly like women after
01:32:56.160they're divorced or after they're you know widowed it's like they go revert back to their 20s and
01:33:01.920they're looking to fool around and chase excitement with younger men and they may not talk about it
01:33:06.160publicly because they care about their social image more than men would care men just kind of
01:33:10.240say what you know they're doing without little thought to it women still care about their
01:33:13.680reputation they understand it has value whether they're in their 20s or 70s but they want to
01:33:18.720chase that high they haven't changed that much even as they get older the only difference is
01:33:23.920as they get older they have more of a realistic expectation of what they'll likely be able to
01:33:28.960settle down with versus what they'll be able to have short-term fun and escapades with i don't
01:33:33.520even i don't even know if it's realistic then either i'm gonna be honest um just based on what
01:33:38.080they're saying the other thing too that's funny when you talk to women dating in their 60s and
01:33:42.40070s is they'll go on dates and the men will die so they're little they're they'll literally get
01:33:48.160and that was one of the things they were complaining about she's like oh yeah i really
01:33:51.840liked this guy but then he got cancer and died yeah i'm gonna add one last thing so like the
01:34:00.480the the transaction part of women has evolved along with this whole feminism because guys
01:34:05.520uh a woman will want to be with a guy when she wants to settle down
01:34:11.040but then she'll also be with a guy okay women want all the things that make them independent
01:34:17.800so they want to buy a house have all these assets but they'll be broke and they'll want to be with
01:34:22.980a guy to fund their lifestyle so you have a woman who's broke but then the guy has to provide all
01:34:32.640of the extras in life and as long as you're giving her trips the bet the handbag she she can't afford
01:34:40.080and stuff she'll be there for you uh welcome to the show alex do you think lenoid is a hero or
01:34:46.840the villain saint leonid redvinsky this isn't about um whether he's a and it's not even about
01:34:56.140leonid at all it's about whether your worldview can handle the billion dollar business built on
01:35:02.140something you fundamentally believe is wrong which is what you know which is what a lot of
01:35:07.820christians are going to say they're going to say at the one well i guess they can't say on the one
01:35:11.760hand the market decides everything and then on the other hand suddenly want to regulate shit
01:35:16.280when the product makes them feel uncomfortable so for the people on the right they typically
01:35:22.960are going to believe in pure capitalism and then only fans screws up their worldview because only
01:35:28.860fans is a perfect market it's voluntary it's direct to consumer there's no middlemen so for
01:35:36.500me i call out the christian right-wing people who say i believe in markets but only the ones i
01:35:43.740approve of morally well and why don't they why don't they demand arranged marriage then because
01:35:50.320that's the only way it goes away do you know what i'm saying i'm not gonna i'm not gonna argue from
01:35:57.240for arranged marriage i've got a daughter and a son so i hope they get to make their own choice
01:36:02.520um but i hope my both of my kids were able to make a choice not based on um you know anything
01:36:10.120more than you know what they really want uh because both of my kids are are you know they're
01:36:14.440going to be pretty well financially thanks to dad doing okay in his life that's almost worse because
01:36:20.120when then the daughter doesn't have to marry for money at all so she can go for like a salsa
01:36:25.000instructor like you know a streamer she could get on clavicular stream because you know when you get
01:36:31.480give women choice even the best women like there are women from good families in good towns that
01:36:36.440are on clav stream going home with him you know yeah but i don't think that means they're good
01:36:42.200people just because someone's you know comes from a good family and and i'll say this for myself you
01:36:47.560know just because i my kids coming from a good family doesn't mean my kids are good people um
01:36:52.440Hopefully they are. They make good choices. You know, both of my kids are respectful of their time and the people they spend time with. And I think that's hopefully, you know, they continue to do that as they get older.
01:37:06.580right but you understand what i'm saying like if you don't arrange it she's gonna go for chad
01:37:10.940it'll either be college chad uh city chad it's gonna be a chat women never don't go for chad
01:37:18.060it's just gonna be a like hopefully it's a chad that likes her back right yeah she's she's she's
01:37:24.500uh she's she's made some mistakes and luckily i'm there because she's a teenager i'm able to pick
01:37:28.940her up and uh and help her realize that some of her dating choices have been dumb um always forever
01:37:37.320well there you go i mean i i think it's just interesting you don't like you're still
01:37:43.720saying and i don't like i'm not one way or the other but it's just interesting because the thing
01:37:48.540that would get rid of this is arranged marriage where you would make the choice for her you know
01:37:53.740Yeah, hey, I've got some very wealthy clients of mine. Actually, a couple of my partners in my private equity fund. They've got some cool kids. Maybe that should be the next thing I do is I'll roll into Wall Street next week and suggest an arranged marriage between myself and my partner's kids.
01:38:15.460Yeah, that's smart. See, that's at least a plan.
01:38:19.080you know and also i remember so i don't have any kids but i remember coaching greg adams on that
01:38:25.640on that um podcast where hafiz was crashing out um that that one his his producer i forgot her name
01:38:35.400the young girl was like so so greg adams you're saying all this red pill stuff you have a daughter
01:38:40.680right what does she think about what she'd say he's like yes she watches my content i tell her
01:38:45.000her everything so what would you tell her about this whole thing he said I wouldn't tell her
01:38:49.700anything you want to know why because she's a teenager and anything I tell her to do she's
01:38:54.520gonna do the exact opposite yeah so I don't tell her anything she's gonna have to get burned
01:38:59.520enough times and when she comes back and says dad I need some some advice she'll actually listen but
01:39:05.460until then she's gonna do the exact opposite of everything I tell her to do and a lot of times
01:39:10.120when it comes to fathers and daughters, that's
01:55:52.860and then ear sean can go next but yeah go ahead amen i'll say this protect your right to get the
01:55:59.880box anybody that's trying to convince you that it should be cheaper it should be holier than now
01:56:05.860that you need to you know exchange a ring in order to get it guys you don't want that if you think
01:56:11.500women are dictators in this current marketplace imagine what they'll be when you raise the
01:56:17.020price on the box imagine what they'll do imagine the power to have over you
01:56:22.420when there's no more pros there's no more prawn and you're thirsty as all ever outdoors they'll
01:56:29.000be able to charge you whatever it doesn't make sense in economics the sexual marketplace
01:56:33.840if you give them that much power they will abuse it it's ridiculous remember pearl if you used to
01:56:40.360have let's say sex with a woman and you didn't marry her what did her dad do go get a shotgun
01:56:46.020put it into your back and force you to marry and you like dang i was just trying to get jiggy
01:56:51.000you don't want that world where dudes would just blast you because you dishonored their daughters
01:56:56.860that's when the box was sacred so guys i love the free market shout outs to the big homie
01:57:03.620the hero he died a legend lr all day thanks thanks for calling in sean okay we're gonna go to uh
01:57:14.260sean sorry i'm still a little sick go ahead sean yeah so uh you know to all the men out there i
01:57:20.720I want you to remember what true love, the kind of love that women actually want, has nothing to do with marriage.
01:57:26.020And the way to really remember from your childhood is if you look at DC Comics and you look at Harley Quinn and you look at the Joker.
01:57:34.320Harley Quinn was his therapist who went absolutely crazy for Joker, would do absolutely anything for him, including break him out for prison, including, you know, be his sidekick and do all this crazy stuff.
01:57:45.680and joker never married her not even once throughout the entire story arc that lasted
01:57:52.860decades and that is a very clear example that women do not care about marriage if they truly
01:58:00.480love you they want to be with you because they want to be with you and it's simply that and they
01:58:05.020will do all sorts of crazy things in order to be with you and the kind of women that force you to
01:58:11.200give them commitment are the kind of women that are telling you to your face the 99.99%
01:58:16.760which is this is a business. Those are my thoughts. Thanks for calling in Sean. Alex
01:58:24.560feel free to give your final thoughts. You're a great caller. Thank you for calling in.
01:58:29.120Feel free to call in anytime. Leonard didn't change human nature. He built the most efficient
01:58:38.840machine we've ever seen to monetize it. So whether you monetize him or whether you admire him
01:58:45.400or whether you hate him, it says more about your worldview than it does say anything about him.
01:58:52.920Wow. Great point. Thanks for calling in, Alex. We have great callers today. I love my callers.
01:59:00.020They always bring such good points that I've never thought of. That's what I feel like I learn