Pearl - Is Modern Women Admitting To Cheating a Good Thing？

00:00:00.000 What is up, guys? Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily. Thank you guys for being patient

00:00:10.360 with us. I know we haven't had an episode in a few days, but we are officially streaming

00:00:14.320 from our brand new studio. I really like the video. Okay. All right. So today we have a very

00:00:22.880 important topic. Now I cover a lot of topics on this show. You know, I talk about a lot

00:00:29.820 of really deep things. We talk about society and how society is going downhill, the birth rate,

00:00:36.100 how modern women are really, you know, being modern women. But, you know, I got to a disagreement

00:00:43.800 the other day. And this disagreement is the revealing of female nature. Is this a good thing 1.00

00:00:54.060 or a bad thing now i hear a lot on the news i hear a lot in the media that this is terrible 0.99

00:01:00.320 right the women are being whores uh the women are it's like now we're having bonnie blue and 1.00

00:01:07.360 she's having sex with a thousand men in a day and you know what i always think about 1.00

00:01:14.380 is that somehow people oh i'm not live 0.55

00:01:21.880 i'm not live on youtube it says it's it says i'm live on here

00:01:29.180 oh i am now okay where do i need to start from the beginning where did it go i'll i'll go again

00:01:38.820 all right what up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily here on the audacity network so

00:01:44.300 today we're going to talk about a really important topic. First off, I want to say

00:01:52.460 welcome to the new studio. Look how nice this looks. Look how beautiful this background is.

00:01:59.080 I told them I wanted me to look five years younger so I could just be 20. It's forever 21,

00:02:05.700 not forever 28. So obviously I'm over the hill now. So I got to, I got to, you know,

00:02:12.860 i gotta get the lighting and i think they did a good job so shout out to the production team

00:02:17.460 our guy here he spent nine hours working today to get this going so they work hard um so we're

00:02:24.960 talking about a lot of different topics on this show and you know it ranges you could say some

00:02:30.300 important issues so we talk about men's rights and how men really don't have access to their

00:02:35.720 children in this country. We talk about society and how, you know, at one point, like a hundred

00:02:43.180 years ago, wasn't it crazy that every woman had like eight kids? It's kind of insane. I was one 1.00

00:02:50.080 of 10 growing up and we were the biggest family. There was like one other family at the church

00:02:55.960 that had as many kids. And now it's like men are begging. You know, I had a conversation with

00:03:01.240 someone and I was like, you don't get to pick how many kids you have because your wife could 1.00

00:03:06.980 just abort it. Like, you don't know. This is the time we're living in. And 100 years ago,

00:03:14.900 women had eight kids and they did tend to stay with one man for life. And now we're to the point

00:03:23.780 where women are admitting to cheating. Now, we got to talk about if this is good or bad.

00:03:33.300 Now, I think on its surface, you might say, Pearl, this is a terrible thing. This is awful. I mean,

00:03:38.580 society's going downhill. These women aren't having kids. Men don't have access to their 1.00

00:03:44.160 children. And yeah, you could say it's awful. But on the other hand, at least we know who women are. 1.00

00:03:50.220 and I do have to give a disclaimer. So I say monetized on YouTube. So I totally am 100%

00:03:57.700 mean this. I totally mean it. And if anyone from YouTube is watching, I mean it to the,

00:04:02.800 from the umpteenth of my heart. I mean, it's so hard. Not all women are like that. No,

00:04:08.180 it is not all women. Not all, not all, not all me. I'm, I'm super special. And I just know all

00:04:17.240 these special women that are super different. And this is what I was thinking. I think there's

00:04:23.940 this idea that women from 50 years ago were super different and special. And they might have made 0.99

00:04:30.180 different decisions, you could argue. But now we see who women really are because now we have the 1.00

00:04:36.380 choice to be anything. We can be an astronaut and have Jeff Bezos fund it. And autumn, you know,

00:04:43.660 funny women we have a tendency not all not all that all i really want to stay monetized so not

00:04:49.740 all not all this is a joke it's comedy okay so we have this tendency we're like we want to drive

00:04:57.820 cars and the men are like here you go and then we got to automate the cars so women could drive them 1.00

00:05:02.060 now we got self-driving cars they did that with rockets you know and then the men the women were 0.98

00:05:08.860 like oh i want to do sales and the men are like here you could be sales people they're like that's

00:05:13.180 it's too hard. They're like, here's marketing. Now you can make these targeted ads. Why go out

00:05:17.980 and sell things when you could just run a Facebook ad? And I would argue that it's actually a good

00:05:30.480 thing what's happening. Because right now you get to see who women are at its core. 1.00

00:05:37.100 Now let's talk about who men are. Because a lot of people say, I don't give, you know,

00:05:41.260 grievance to men i don't i don't cook men and i need to cook i need to cook the men 0.90

00:05:47.020 well so men collectively they could just you know put us in cages and like rape us or something like

00:05:53.820 if the men because they're obviously stronger than us like today i played basketball for like

00:05:58.700 two hours okay and i was going up i'm going up i'm playing with a bunch of guys and i'm going up for

00:06:03.180 the layup and there's a guy and he's like six three right and i'm just and his arms were so

00:06:12.300 hot i'm six foot but when it's a big guy and i'm like please don't hurt me that's what i was

00:06:18.860 thinking i'm like please i don't want to tear an acl going up for this layup you are obviously

00:06:26.220 stronger than me please just let me play please just let me play and don't be don't rock my 0.82

00:06:32.140 shit please and that's really and I thought about this later you know because he did I won't lie to 0.98

00:06:37.880 you he did stuff me but like if he was going up against another guy he would have jumped he would 0.99

00:06:43.920 have swatted he just was like you can just knock the ball out of my hands I was like okay and I

00:06:49.660 thought about it that's like that's how society is right you know the men they're gonna let us

00:06:55.040 play the game but they're gonna be like all right here's the easy mode because they just can't they

00:07:00.580 cannot abuse us like we can abuse them. We just have this tendency. We're just abusive.

00:07:07.280 And there's some, you know, I want to find, you know, there's this idea that, you know, again,

00:07:15.700 that women are super different back then. Well, I'll tell you guys a story. This is the war bride 0.99

00:07:23.000 phenomenon. Basically, I'm summarizing because I can't remember what country this took place in.

00:07:30.580 and I do think people in my field are going to cook me because I'm really bad with names and I

00:07:35.500 just, I'm bad with pronunciations and names. Sue me. Sue me. Sue me. Do you know what I mean?

00:07:41.820 Just sue me, but whatever. Basically, these guys, you know, they married their high school

00:07:46.420 sweethearts. All the guys are like, here, let me just find a trad wife. Well, these guys did,

00:07:50.600 and they married their high school sweethearts. They went off to war.

00:07:53.200 and while they're at war the opposing um the guys they were fighting basically came in and

00:08:02.340 occupied the land there and they were like higher status like you know the women were 1.00

00:08:07.680 were dating and marrying soldiers and then these freaking generals came in 0.90

00:08:12.480 and this was in like 1850 do you know where the women went gone the guys came back they're like 0.83

00:08:21.660 fighting for their country and you know it got so bad these guys kept losing their their wives

00:08:28.540 with their like eight children that the army would intercept the letters and if they had a really

00:08:35.580 stressful week they wouldn't let the soldiers have it because every other week a guy was just

00:08:40.780 crashing out and so i actually think in a way it's it's kind of good that women are revealing 1.00

00:08:47.740 ourselves to be who we are, which is absolutely batshit insane, crazy, talk too much, cheat all 0.58

00:08:53.780 the time, absolute horse, but not all YouTube, not all. And I mean that. And I do mean that.

00:09:01.520 And I do think this is helpful for women to understand because if you do understand that

00:09:07.600 you're crazy and evil and like all that stuff, you know, at least in your relationships, you can

00:09:13.100 just realize that he's probably right. Do you know what I mean? Like if you go into things 0.99

00:09:17.960 thinking that you're right, you're just going to be wrong because you're the crazy one. Do you know 0.99

00:09:23.700 what I mean? Yeah. They came back to the town where they were dragging the though. Yeah. I mean,

00:09:31.140 and that's why I always try to, you know, I always try to preface, but people always skip over this.

00:09:36.740 I'm not special or different. I'm just aware. Right. It's kind of like you guys as men know

00:09:42.900 that you'll hit pretty much anything you guys will smash it's so crazy and a lot of you guys

00:09:50.220 will try to virtue signal and say you won't hit but if nobody had to know like nobody would know 0.98

00:09:56.880 and you were confident that woman the problem is women now smashing an ugly woman or a midwoman 1.00

00:10:03.760 comes with possibly getting your life ruined because she might crash out but if you could 1.00

00:10:09.080 just hit and you knew she would go away after. If you could just hit and she would go away after. 0.87

00:10:25.780 I really do. I really do think that most of you guys would smash. Let's see how low you would go.

00:10:32.960 i think most of you if it had been a few years of no sex and you were horny enough 0.99

00:10:42.840 and lizzo looks like this 0.99

00:10:51.720 uh oh

00:10:58.440 okay i think

00:11:04.120 oh no whatever this one doesn't even sound i think a lot of you would do it if i'm being honest

00:11:16.040 i'll just hold on share

00:11:18.860 yeah i'm like pretty confident that if you guys if no one had to know or maybe if you're not into

00:11:30.020 black girls the white version of this but you guys see what i'm saying right and that's kind

00:11:34.540 of an uncomfortable part of male nature it's just how attracted you guys are to everything 0.97

00:11:40.800 guys get disgusted too well you know i get disgusted with my nature you guys you know

00:11:48.760 And, but in general, male nature is much better because you guys build things, create things.

00:11:54.040 And like, you're way more patient, you know, like we're very impatient.

00:11:58.560 We get frustrated.

00:11:59.860 Everything's catastrophic.

00:12:00.960 It's like, we're passive aggressive. 0.94

00:12:03.720 We're bitchy. 1.00

00:12:04.560 And the only negative trait men really have, in my opinion, is listening to women and like 0.95

00:12:12.160 being too attracted to them.

00:12:13.860 that's really because like most men i know that's their greatest downfall in life i mean maybe um 1.00

00:12:21.540 maybe i guess anger you could say but you guys look at angry and go to the gym like a bitch will 1.00

00:12:27.700 cheat do you know what i mean a bitch will cheat and then i'll see the guy the next year and he's 1.00

00:12:32.420 jacked you know you guys can at least take your anger and do a good thing we get angry and steal 1.00

00:12:40.660 your children. We're just not the same. We're not. We're not. But that's what I mean when

00:12:47.420 I try to preface that. So that gets me into today's topic, now that I'm riffing a little

00:12:56.400 bit. Now that I'm riffing. Today we're going to talk about cheating. So we're going to

00:13:06.820 talk about modern women can't keep their mouths shut. They have this need to share stories. We do. 1.00

00:13:14.420 We just yap. We're like, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap. And you know what? I think we feel better

00:13:19.780 because we just know deep down we're not really the best people. Do you know what I mean? I think

00:13:24.740 every woman, like I think most men, you guys, you guys get to sleep well at night. You can,

00:13:30.800 and I think that's a level of peace that men just will never understand that we don't have

00:13:38.260 because we have to go to bed and we have to think about all the crazy things we did when we were

00:13:42.320 emotional frustrated being a bit do you know what I mean and we have to like live with ourselves

00:13:47.440 where you guys can just you guys can just chill and be good people

00:13:52.000 not all and i totally mean that youtube not all not all not all not all not all not all

00:14:02.100 um so we have the need to share stories no matter how scandalous

00:14:08.740 women that have been on drugs women that have been scammed that have scammed men out of money 1.00

00:14:14.000 like cardi b talked about on podcast women that have are spilling all of their personal business 1.00

00:14:19.820 and one of the latest trends are women sharing that they cheated on their perfect husband

00:14:27.740 is it a good thing that these women are cheating in whorish ways well okay i wouldn't say a good 1.00

00:14:34.620 thing i think it's a good thing women are saying it because before do you know i mean women would 1.00

00:14:39.740 cheat with the neighbor and you know there's genealogy records that show this now the only 0.98

00:14:45.340 difference is now women's opportunity to cheat is like endless it's like dick here dick there 1.00

00:14:51.260 here you could like tom dick harry and the opportunities that the chads we can cheat with 0.99

00:14:57.380 it's like it's like it's like women go to the the the dick store the can i say that on youtube 0.99

00:15:03.680 should i say the husband store i don't know women women don't even want to be married you know what 1.00

00:15:09.020 I mean, women go, okay, I'll just go to the band store and it's like, you could get a DJ with a 0.87

00:15:17.400 big, a big schlong and, and he's very popular, but then women are like, eh, maybe I want a job. 1.00

00:15:25.840 So we go to the six, four finance guy. And yeah, I mean, he works a lot. You barely see him,

00:15:31.660 but he gives you some money and you go away. Okay, cool. Or women, we can go and then we can 1.00

00:15:37.140 get banged out by an athlete and ghosted. But the excitement is a lot for us. I heard Derek Jeter

00:15:43.980 gave herpes to half in New York City. I heard that's the word on the street, according to Reddit

00:15:50.400 or whatever. Then we can go to our hometown and get a lumberjack. I mean, that's how all the

00:16:00.520 stories are ending. I mean, we can go on Titanic. We can have a multi... Like on Titanic, Rose had

00:16:06.980 a multi-bajillionaire husband. And then she was like, nah, I'm going to go bang this guy who like

00:16:14.440 won a ticket. And he's just kind of charming. And yeah, let me go bang him. Women are really the 1.00

00:16:21.600 ones who will bang anything. And that's the honest truth. Because when men bang anything, 0.96

00:16:26.420 you guys bang like an ugly chick with really big boobs and you just focus on the boobs, right? 1.00

00:16:32.340 Women, if a guy is funny or he plays guitar or some bullshit, we're like, teehee, let's 1.00

00:16:41.580 ride. 0.98

00:16:42.360 You know what I mean?

00:16:44.500 Men, you know, I mean, they will bang pretty much anything also.

00:16:50.800 But women's anything is always worse than men's anything. 1.00

00:16:55.880 Because men's anything, like men don't have a kid with their anything generally. 0.54

00:17:01.860 i mean sometimes the woman a lot the woman pulls the fat grenade after but at least at least 1.00

00:17:09.460 up front she's kind of hot or just chubby right but women's anything i mean it'll be a criminal 1.00

00:17:16.500 it'll be ted bundy that's our freaking anything it's like this is comedy youtube it's comedy not

00:17:22.980 meant to be serious so what are the latest trends is women cheating on their perfect husband 1.00

00:17:29.940 And I think it's a good thing that women are sharing their whorish ways. 1.00

00:17:34.780 Women sharing these stories show men what women are doing out here and what they're going to have to put up with it when they're going to get married. 0.96

00:17:43.360 Before, you might have believed that the women were faithful.

00:17:46.380 And, you know, it is possible that the women maybe didn't have the opportunity to cheat back then.

00:17:55.980 And you could say that's good.

00:17:57.400 You don't lay down the hammer.

00:17:58.420 but it's like my dad you know when i was younger i didn't understand why he wasn't more controlling

00:18:03.860 and he just kind of let my parents were kind of free-range parents they really were

00:18:08.740 i mean we really could do whatever none of us really took advantage of it if i'm being honest

00:18:13.780 well i didn't i'll say that i'm not about to be a snitch but but i asked my dad why he chose to

00:18:23.540 parent us that way and he said you know people will resent you if you control them and the more

00:18:31.460 you try to control people the more they resent you later and i thought about it i'm like that's women 0.87

00:18:36.820 and you might even be controlling somebody with their best interests at heart i mean you don't

00:18:41.220 want to see your wife get ran through by 10 dudes that don't want her you're like be happy with me 1.00

00:18:47.140 but you know if you control her then she's gonna think deep down that she could have did better 0.93

00:18:54.820 with the 10 dudes do you know what i mean like some people mostly women men can learn from other 0.93

00:19:01.420 men's mistakes not when it comes to simping but maybe like avoiding jail time simping is like a

00:19:06.920 rite of passage every guy thinks he won't till he does um it's it's until he gets the gluck gluck

00:19:15.280 9000 once he gets the gluck gluck 9000 they're basically cooked do you know what i mean it's

00:19:20.240 it's over you can always tell what a guy like what a guy's getting the gluck gluck because

00:19:26.080 they'll justify any behavior you're like you know your girlfriend posted 10 thirst traps yeah well

00:19:33.360 she's just trying to be more confident and i'm like didn't you 10 minutes ago

00:19:37.760 say that you'd never accept that and they're like

00:19:40.000 they want to enjoy their gluck gluck i can't blame them

00:19:52.880 now doug now so my my point is at least men now they know what they're getting into they don't

00:20:00.240 get the wool like imagine you're banging a hot girl in like the 80s now you don't have

00:20:06.480 social media to see all the stuff women say i mean at that time maybe you work together but you only

00:20:13.360 like social media gives you guys the opportunity to see how women talk behind closed doors 0.99

00:20:18.560 back then they had no idea and remember the women from the 80s still divorced their husbands so 0.79

00:20:25.200 you're probably on the beach i mean we've seen those pictures with all the hot women the women 1.00

00:20:29.520 were actually hot back then and they pulled the fat grenade divorced their husbands alienated the 1.00

00:20:36.320 kid like but you had no idea you didn't see it coming versus today you know you will probably

00:20:44.960 get cheated on like that's probably in your future if you choose to get married i mean i i just don't

00:20:50.400 see how it's not i maybe i could sell you when there's a special woman that won't you have to 1.00

00:20:56.400 understand i mean there's too many forces pushing us to be absolute whores and i've seen the worst 0.77

00:21:03.440 to the worst i've interviewed and that's actually what blackpilled me was you know i liked to think

00:21:10.080 of myself as a good person but i saw women better than me make worse decisions than i think i would 0.88

00:21:18.400 right like i think you know i think i'll stay married for life i think you know that's what

00:21:24.080 you think but i realized i'm like that's just a prediction you have no idea what's going to

00:21:28.480 happen in the future and i think that when guys hear that they think that's kind of that's kind

00:21:34.400 of a bad thing to say but i'm like it's more honest than what these other ladies are saying

00:21:39.840 and that was really a black pill for me because these i met women from orthodox churches i met

00:21:46.800 women from devout muslim communities and i'm like these women lived better holier um they talked

00:21:55.680 less. They didn't have internet clout. You know what I mean? And I'm like, these women made every 1.00

00:22:00.520 life decision. They married younger. They had more kids. And I'm like, they made every life

00:22:05.320 decision better than me. And they still ruined their husband's life. I say it's better now.

00:22:12.740 Because at least you know. At least you know. Now Doug says no, because it makes the man look bad

00:22:20.940 and disrespected and the humiliation after the fact can be damaging as damaging as the cheating

00:22:26.720 in his self itself and i do think that's a fair point i mean nothing was worse than getting cucked 0.96

00:22:33.340 like it's pretty bad when you're paying for a house for someone other dude to bang your wife

00:22:38.580 in the house you're paid you paid for you fixed up that you made awesome like you did all this

00:22:43.880 stuff and then the wife is like see ya i'm gonna go bang my personal trainer and you're gonna pay 1.00

00:22:50.040 for. That's pretty cocked. That's pretty cocked. Or even many men work through cheating, right? 0.94

00:23:03.020 Many men work through cheating and that's also pretty cocked, right? But it's one thing to be

00:23:11.720 cocked and it's another thing for everybody to know you're cocked. And it, you know, it's one

00:23:17.340 thing for maybe your town to know you're cucked or your close friends associates and it's another 0.87

00:23:24.220 thing for the whole world to know you're cucked so that's that's a good point doug mpa um these

00:23:30.460 women are doing this for themselves not for anyone else they usually tell the female friendly version 0.84

00:23:35.520 of the story whether the heroes and the victims at the same time there's nothing like being a hero

00:23:40.280 and a victim. I could like, that's like maximum simping points, you know? How can I be the hero

00:23:47.580 and the victim today? What can my story be? I overcame the haters that I asked for by talking

00:23:57.540 about these topics. That's the typical female YouTuber one. Dealing with the hate is really

00:24:06.440 hard to go work at Starbucks. You know what I mean? It's like, what are the other? What are the

00:24:11.400 other? Starbucks is hiring. We never want to do that. And I don't, I love it too much. You know,

00:24:20.520 I just, I love, I love doing this. This is too fun for me. A part of me, I think I was bored for it

00:24:26.300 some days. I really do. Okay. People can usually figure out who the man is that the woman's

00:24:36.060 talking about. And the issue, and this is a problem, when they hear the woman's version 0.51

00:24:45.100 of the story first, people will always remember the first version. And this is something I learned

00:24:50.960 in media. Yeah, people, that is a... Okay, so the question we're going to ask, and we're going to

00:25:00.760 put the zoom in the chat. If your wife cheated and broke up with you, would you rather her say 1.00

00:25:06.340 that you were a really nice guy or an asshole? So let's, we'll role play here. So if I'm like, 1.00

00:25:13.320 uh, I cheated, you know, and if I'm going public, but he was the nicest man in the whole world.

00:25:21.080 He was a perfect husband, but I just wasn't fulfilled. I wasn't satisfied. Is that better

00:25:27.300 or two. He was such a fucking asshole. He's the worst. And I cheated, which is worse. 1.00

00:25:39.840 But like, what would you prefer? Because if she's calling you an asshole, that means she 1.00

00:25:43.460 actually loved you. And if she said you were a really nice guy, that means you're a simp bitch. 1.00

00:25:51.060 But if she, but here's the problem. When women really love you, 1.00

00:25:54.260 they do go to the ends of the earth to destroy you it's kind of dangerous having a woman love 1.00

00:26:00.300 you too much because if a woman loves you too much

00:26:04.380 then she really might like you know that's when women go to your job they put our you on are we 1.00

00:26:14.680 dating the same guy that's a that's what you call an a-level crash women tend to only crash out 1.00

00:26:21.880 there's two things when betas cheat women crash out because we're like because because this is 1.00

00:26:28.300 women this is our our innate problem is we have to pick between the two men we're like do i want

00:26:32.560 security or do i want the guy that's like the bad boy and if we date the bad boy we have to accept

00:26:41.660 that we're gonna get and if we date the nice guy then we expect to not get cheated on because we

00:26:48.100 picked, we picked the less attractive one. We're like, you can't cheat. And when they cheat,

00:26:53.360 we're like, oh, that's a woman crash. When a woman thinks he'll never cheat, it doesn't matter. 0.90

00:27:03.000 She'll put him in a sexless marriage. She'll think he'll never cheat. She'll be like, he would never

00:27:07.220 do that. And then he does it. We're like, oh, and it's worse if she's younger, hotter, and better

00:27:14.760 than us in every way, because that does happen. But when it's an asshole, it is expected, but 1.00

00:27:24.320 there's also a crash out. So, you know, Doug MPA will come on in a second to talk about the benefits 1.00

00:27:30.000 once we get through an article. All right, let me.

00:27:44.760 all right let me go to this all right

00:27:57.540 oh this is hilarious even at 50 my husband is still drop dead gorgeous so why am i cheating

00:28:11.340 on him with an ugly man it's like that sometimes because you know guys can be a lot of guys think

00:28:20.760 it's all about look but we just like men that are we just love a man that can spit game it's just 0.78

00:28:27.160 it does a crazy things to us women it's it's insane and men here's the thing men are logical

00:28:33.900 women are illogical so when men when men see this and they think like i saw a post on twitter the 1.00

00:28:39.620 other day and the guy was like i look like this and it was this perfect like jacked like everything 0.97

00:28:45.540 a woman could ask for it's like a physique from god like he looked like a greek god you know

00:28:49.980 and he said the girl i wanted to date brought in a guy who couldn't bench a plate

00:28:54.920 we don't make sense so just you know we don't even understand ourselves so don't even try to

00:29:03.500 understand us, do you know what I mean? But, oh wait, where's the article? Is it, these are some

00:29:12.320 interesting ads. What the, oh, I have to log in. Doug, can you copy and paste it in there? Can we,

00:29:21.500 can we jip them? Because I don't want to pay for this article. I won't lie to you.

00:29:26.160 Okay. This one's free though. Well, Doug gets that. My husband is perfect and I cheat on him

00:29:31.920 anyway. The shocking reasons why women in a loving relationship stray. I cannot say a bad word about 0.92

00:29:38.940 my husband, says Kathy, a happily married woman from Indianapolis. He's smart. He's cute. He's

00:29:44.880 funny. He's hardworking. He adores me. He's a great dad. He takes care of his body. He's an

00:29:49.500 excellent lover. I am married to like Mr. Wonderful in so many ways. But despite that, she's having

00:29:56.020 an affair and has no intention of stopping. Oh, wait here, I have to share this. It goes against

00:30:05.000 every cliche about extramarital affairs. If somebody is cheating on their spouse, we assume

00:30:10.160 they must be miserable. Maybe they've fallen out of love with their spouse or their sex life has

00:30:15.180 disappeared. But Kathy, one of the dozens of people interviewed for the new book,

00:30:19.820 Cheating Land, out now, goes against the comforting narrative. If a woman could cheat 1.00

00:30:24.880 on a husband she adores. Is anybody's marriage secure? No. And I've been trying to blackpill

00:30:30.940 you guys because I just think, I think blackpilling is the most honest take that you can really have

00:30:36.740 at this point. I would rather be blackpilled than sell dreams. I really would. I'd rather

00:30:43.640 just be honest and say, look, yeah, your wife's probably going to cheat and leave you and ruin 0.99

00:30:48.000 your life. So take it or leave it. You know, and it's even more blackpilling. Do you know what's

00:30:55.820 the most blackpilling? I was at a car show and these are kind of like well-off men. I think

00:31:00.600 well-off, I'm assuming, to have like a car from the 70s or maybe they just took care of it. I

00:31:04.780 don't know. I just assumed. I assume if they're showing the car, it's expensive, but I could be

00:31:09.620 wrong. I don't know anything about cars. And these guys, I mean, they're pretty old because like some

00:31:16.360 of them went to use the car in high school or whatever some of them bought it but they're

00:31:22.560 showing you know their car histories or guys in their 70s and 80s and all of them were and you

00:31:28.680 know obviously i i like never stop working in a way i'm always talking to people i'm just so nosy

00:31:34.880 it's it's you know blessing and a curse so obviously i'm asking these guys about their

00:31:38.980 wives and they're telling me the same thing 1.00

00:31:41.000 that their wives are hoarse too and these are like 80 year old men so

00:31:47.300 okay maybe they've fallen out of love or their sex life has disappeared but kathy one of the

00:31:55.940 dozens of people interviewed oh wait here as counterintuitive as it sounds it's not

00:32:01.960 unusual for people in happy marriages to cheat affairs are rarely about sex yeah because we

00:32:09.880 love the ups and down so even if like you're you could be the best lover of our life it could be

00:32:15.880 like a 10 out of 10 but women we just love thrills like i mean guys we go to bangladesh 1.00

00:32:23.140 and risk getting raped great just to get the excitement to feel the thrill of having these

00:32:31.900 indian guys go i mean you guys see that these women will go to like south america and go into 0.95

00:32:37.880 the jungle and then get kidnapped. So, I mean, we're really surprised that we like the thrill

00:32:44.940 of cheating. Like, come on. They're like, why would we do that? Cuckoo. We're all cuckoo.

00:32:51.880 It just is what it is. All right. Though Kathy is only 40, she worries she's at the cusp of

00:32:57.960 losing my attractiveness. Guys have stopped looking at her like they did when she was younger.

00:33:01.740 Nobody likes me anymore. Guys don't even look at me and she wants to be reminded that men still

00:33:06.200 want me that's a validation thing sleeping with another man is proof she's still desirable 1.00

00:33:12.200 keener isn't surprised by this reaction external validation is extremely enticing he says

00:33:17.880 especially as we age in a culture that celebrates youth yeah and this is a lot of times with women 0.95

00:33:23.480 very young this is kind of what you see um they right when their youth is about to i mean you get

00:33:30.920 it the most i don't consider any man safe until the woman has had as many kids as she wants 0.90

00:33:38.040 it can't be what he wants because what you want is irrelevant right i mean who cares

00:33:43.480 respectfully it just it's i mean she's got the abortion 1.00

00:33:47.720 so she knows when she's ovulating it's not up to you it's really not so

00:34:00.920 so it doesn't surprise me that you know we're cheating machines okay extreme external oh but

00:34:13.140 so what you get is after the women get what we want which is the kids the ring the attention 1.00

00:34:19.280 of the marriage the attention of the kids because attention's like sex to us so you know how you

00:34:24.860 guys don't know if you want if you actually like a woman until after you bang her because you don't 0.97

00:34:30.840 really notice how annoying we are until after you've hit. Once you've hit, you're like, oh,

00:34:36.720 she's really annoying. 1.00

00:34:41.880 That's what it's like for us after we get children, because we want the kids so bad,

00:34:47.200 and we want the marriage so bad, that once we get that, it's like, ooh, that's like our post-nut

00:34:54.860 clarity. It's unfortunate. You guys get post-nut clarity so much earlier. We get post-nut

00:35:00.660 clarity eight years in. And women write about this. They talk about it if you really listen. 1.00

00:35:10.400 They're into freaky stuff. Remember when we said it wasn't about sex? Well, it's a little bit about

00:35:15.560 sex, but it's not because their husbands aren't keeping them satisfied. It's because they have 1.00

00:35:19.840 kinks and proclivities that their husbands couldn't satisfy even if they tried. Yeah. I mean, 0.99

00:35:25.720 you'd be surprised how many women want to just be 50 shades of grade I mean rape fantasies three 1.00

00:35:32.900 some fantasies I mean you know it's so funny because I know somebody who's like he's like

00:35:42.440 I've taken many girls virginities and I really didn't feel a sense of bonding to them like they 0.80

00:35:48.720 were not from his end but they you know like one girl he's like she got a tattoo the next week

00:35:53.580 became a flight attendant. I never really heard from her. But he goes, I felt bonding from the

00:36:01.280 first time I slapped a woman. We're crazy. You know, I don't get it. I don't know. And that's 0.99

00:36:09.800 what Jesse Lee Peterson says, like the devil comes through women. I'm like, that kind of 0.80

00:36:13.920 makes sense. Kind of does. Not all, not all, not all. This is comedy. I'm not serious. I'm not

00:36:19.300 serious at all. Um, Kerner admits that it's cruel irony. Good relationships are based on

00:36:25.580 dependability, predictability, and a sense of security. But sexual energy often comes from

00:36:30.480 the opposite. When someone cheats in a good marriage, it's often the very qualities that

00:36:34.800 make the marriage good, that create the vulnerability to infidelity. An affair is

00:36:39.340 easier than marriage. Um, I mean, yeah, this is, uh, women are designed to be passed around. 1.00

00:36:44.980 it's in our hard wiring um because we have to figure out what is the best genetics it's not

00:36:53.260 about you right that's the problem is the moralists come in and they'll shout and they'll 0.98

00:36:59.680 say that's wrong that's immoral i never stopped a whore from whoring do you know what i mean i'm 1.00

00:37:08.280 like that never and i promise you to god i did it for a year and it did nothing i'll tell you what 0.98

00:37:14.360 I met, I met, um, Lily Phillips before she slept with a thousand men. And I was like, maybe you

00:37:20.620 should stop here. You know, she did like one gang bang and I'm like, maybe you should, you should

00:37:25.820 cool it. The next year she slept with a thousand men. Yeah. It's never going to stop them. And it's 1.00

00:37:33.360 again, it's because women, we're just, we're supposed to get the best genetics. So as they 1.00

00:37:41.400 say hypergamy doesn't care it's not a straight jacket so sometimes we like the guitar player 0.73

00:37:46.420 genetics or whatever bullshit the funny because of the social status the popular guy i mean god

00:37:53.460 only knows um you might be like oh honey what's for dinner kathy says of her marriage i'm so 0.98

00:37:59.380 sick of playing what's for dinner it's like all we do is marriage everyone's too tired to make

00:38:04.260 an effort and it can drive you insane thinking about how nice and easy your affair is um

00:38:10.100 he had um kerner says he's seen this play out out wait far too often the couples he's counseled

00:38:16.960 the affair partner doesn't have to worry about the kids bills and the real life stressors so yeah

00:38:21.760 um there's another article

00:38:24.960 let's see from love shack love shack baby loves that

00:38:32.360 i cheated on my perfect husband is there any chance of reconciliation

00:38:38.420 and usually this is women realizing you'll notice they're about 40 i think women's average divorce 1.00

00:38:49.920 is like 37 it's so funny i'll hear like charlie kirk is so confident his marriage is going to

00:38:55.540 work out i'm like charlie there's like three rounds of divorces ones when your youngest kid

00:39:02.940 however many she wants, not you. Hits preschool. It's like the eight-year mark, the 15-year mark,

00:39:13.140 and the 20-year mark. If you make it past 20, you're probably good. I'm like, you guys are

00:39:20.940 like five years in. How can you be this confident? She hasn't hit 40. Oh my God. She hasn't hit the

00:39:26.900 rage of menopause. She's going to take it all out on you. And then they'll be like, get married. 1.00

00:39:33.320 I'm like, you're coping. You're coping. Hey, everyone, I'm going through a crisis in my life

00:39:38.360 and I'm figuring things out. Approximately four years ago, I started having an affair with a

00:39:42.360 former coworker. My marriage was perfect. I had a perfect husband who loved me and cherished me.

00:39:47.620 And I had a good sex life and two beautiful children. I had a house and I still cheated on

00:39:53.200 my husband. It still shocks me to see how I threw everything away for some silly fantasies. Starting

00:40:00.380 with my marriage, I was married to one of the best men I could dream of. He was kind, caring,

00:40:04.520 and compassionate. A bit hot-headed, which made his personality look better. He was dedicated to

00:40:10.440 his work and smart in his own ways. My husband is nothing less than a savior to me. I had, oh my

00:40:16.820 gosh. He saved her. This is why you can't. We don't want to be saved. We want to be like,

00:40:25.060 I don't know, raped in Bangladesh or something. I don't know what the fuck. 1.00

00:40:31.380 We want to be serial killed. That's what we crave. They're crazy. I had a rough childhood. I grew up 1.00

00:40:37.980 with two siblings, dysfunctional parents. My father was an abusive alcoholic and my mother

00:40:43.300 was a cunning devil. I was practically raised by my own self after completing my 18th. I started

00:40:50.440 earning my own money by doing petty jobs alongside my education. He was nothing less than a prince

00:40:56.200 to my miserable fairy tale. He gave me all I wanted. I was provided with emotional support.

00:41:01.440 I was given moral support. And also he changed his hometown for me after my job asked me to

00:41:07.100 relocate to Tokyo, Japan. We all started, we started a family and had two beautiful children,

00:41:12.620 but something was missing. The feeling of being wanted was taken over and that's when things

00:41:18.020 escalated. The affair started with sweet conversations during office breaks and then

00:41:25.160 turned into late night talks. During the overtime and then came the small dates for business related

00:41:31.660 purposes and then monthly office trips for business purposes. During the fifth month of my

00:41:36.820 affair. Things got physical and it grew larger with oral sex during office times and role playing. 0.97

00:41:44.380 Yeah. He's like, honey, how was your day? You know, and then she comes back and it's like, 0.99

00:41:48.680 it was amazing. He has no idea who cooked. In the period of two years, I avoided all contact

00:41:55.320 with my husband. He initiated intimacy and I declined the offer due to the guilt of the

00:42:00.540 ongoing affair. He tried helping me out and I pushed him away to make him as well as myself

00:42:07.620 to reassure that everything was fine. I was a dark fog of the affair, which made my mind have

00:42:13.060 kinky fantasies of having my lover break the prison of my unhappiness and take me to a better

00:42:18.320 world. The reality was far different. I had everything I needed. I had more than what I

00:42:22.040 deserve. And I took my husband for granted. My affair actually came to an end when my husband

00:42:26.840 found out about it through a female ex-colleague of mine. He confronted me. Things got messy.

00:42:33.460 I was more angry than sad about my affair being discovered. The fog hadn't ended, and I still

00:42:38.540 desired more from my lover. My husband made me leave the house. I took my son and went to stay

00:42:43.960 in a motel. My older son didn't want anything to do with me or my husband. He stays alone in

00:42:49.560 Osaka for his university. My affair fog ended when I found out that my lover couldn't and me

00:43:00.900 couldn't be together in any kind of relationship or marriage. It wasn't a complete rejection. He

00:43:06.240 was open to casual dating, nothing more, nothing less. It was a shock for me. I felt like a used

00:43:11.920 material for sex. Who would want to marry a cheating married woman with two children anyway? 1.00

00:43:16.760 that's when i realized the kind of person i actually was yeah because the problem is when

00:43:22.380 the men when they're whispering sweet nothings into your ear they're not going to tell you how

00:43:27.860 terrible of a person they think you are you know what i mean so a lot of times women we get banged 1.00

00:43:34.300 out right so you know she's getting banged out by side dude ego's getting up she's getting a better 1.00

00:43:39.620 mood and then you know she's like all right side dude we can be a thing and he's like oh hell no 0.98

00:43:45.080 you crazy hoe you're a bad person you know i i overlook it because i want i want to hit 1.00

00:43:53.320 but yeah not a good person and then she's like oh shit the next three months i want to do a sea of 1.00

00:43:59.480 self-rationalization for myself slowly at sane once my brain was processing the mistakes i made 0.98

00:44:05.380 for the solution to be out of the mess i then decided i wanted to salvage my marriage

00:44:09.580 My sentences came to reality after I snapped out of the affair fog, but it was too late. My

00:44:15.900 husband made up his mind. He decided to divorce. The papers were sent to me in the office and my

00:44:21.100 entire world was in front of me. I cried and hugged my son tight. It was a total mess. Fast

00:44:27.560 forward to today. I haven't signed the divorce papers. I am reluctant on this, but unfortunately,

00:44:32.840 my husband wants nothing to do with me anymore. He has left Japan and relocated to his birth 1.00

00:44:41.840 country. My elder son hates me with all the passion he has. My younger son hasn't seen his

00:44:46.440 father for two years. My husband, on the other hand, is dating a woman and planning to have a

00:44:51.980 family with her. February 2021, my husband came back to Japan. Special provisions were made for

00:45:00.220 because our country is closed during COVID. It was the first time after we talked, after him

00:45:06.720 finding out about my affair, he is reluctant to have me as his wife. He simply stated that I am

00:45:12.120 secondhand goods and valueless in his life, and he has become more cold and soulless towards me.

00:45:18.040 His main purpose of the visit was our children. Even after that, all this, I am ready to work

00:45:23.520 on our marriage. I am reluctant to sign the divorce papers, and I am planning to not sign

00:45:27.680 them until he gives me a chance i am ready yeah and he probably he's once men enjoy being alone

00:45:35.140 and get over the sadness of some other dude banging his wife they realize that the silence

00:45:40.340 is kind of nice they have their kids and they're like i'm good you know if anything the men i mean

00:45:45.880 the men i meet in like their 50s and 60s there's this idea that you know men will be these lonely

00:45:51.240 old men if they don't have a wife and i'm like they all seem pretty happy the the married men

00:45:57.240 seem to be driven crazy. I'm ready to be hurt by his words. I'm ready to have him hit me. I'm ready

00:46:02.880 to deal with any pain he gives me because of the amount of pain I gave him is enough to have him

00:46:08.620 hate me, but I don't want to lose him. I tried counseling. I've tried meditation and marriage

00:46:14.100 counseling alone. I've read dozens of books and went through couples who faced infidelity but

00:46:19.240 came back stronger. I have showered my husband with the love I can. I cooked his favorite dishes.

00:46:25.240 I made him his favorite chocolate, but he threw it all out. He is firm and where he stands. And

00:46:30.600 so am I, will I ever have him back? No, no. Yeah, you're done. You're done. Um, I actually do

00:46:40.180 respect the effort. Um, I do think it's kind of not cute, but you rarely see women try at anything. 1.00

00:46:48.740 so to see a woman try to reconcile a marriage i'm like oh well anyways um let's get doug mpa up here

00:46:58.340 what up doug hey how's it going am i cooking or am i cooking yeah yeah you know this is one of

00:47:08.540 those where i can understand the argument on both sides but i'm talking about because i always say 0.98

00:47:15.140 that the modern women the single mothers the whores all this stuff but the biggest problem 0.99

00:47:21.680 is they can't keep their mouth shut especially with the advent of social media right so is it 0.99

00:47:26.920 okay for people to know that the wife cheated yes is it okay for her to go on tiktok with her front 1.00

00:47:32.860 camera in her car blasting her entire thing all over social media is it okay for her to be writing

00:47:39.760 with these articles no it's the public humiliation i'm not saying that that it shouldn't be out there

00:47:47.360 in the open maybe in like the local town or or the families other people like all over online

00:47:53.680 come on now so okay hear me out hear me out now if you want to date a woman you can just google

00:48:03.280 her TikTok and it's all there. You can see her full relationship history. You, you used to have

00:48:10.060 to get a PI. You know what I mean? But now you can just like Google it. Yeah. I'm still going

00:48:21.680 to feel bad for, for the guy, especially when men are what eight, nine times more likely to

00:48:28.160 off themselves after divorce. Okay. So sorry, go ahead. The public humiliation is going to be 0.99

00:48:36.300 even worse. So what would you rather her say that you were an asshole or that you were a perfect 1.00

00:48:43.760 husband? Asshole any day of the week, any day of the week, man. Okay. Cause we talked about this. 1.00

00:48:52.680 remember i said i said an and you're like because if she said that you were a nice guy

00:48:59.960 well then why the heck did she break up with you in the first place okay but if she's calling you

00:49:04.920 an and now she's telling all of your personal business like she's telling your 0.99

00:49:10.200 darkest see because when women feel that way about you they do want to kill you like they do 1.00

00:49:15.720 you know no seriously they want to destroy your soul and they will go to all of your i mean i've 0.75

00:49:22.600 had women uh destroy men through their business colleagues like wouldn't it be better to just 1.00

00:49:28.280 look like a simp and not have that level of anger like if anything there's almost a case to be made

00:49:34.520 to be the beta guy for women because then like she's gonna leave anyway because you know but 1.00

00:49:41.640 at least if you're the beta guy you know she didn't love you that much so what about this though i've

00:49:48.200 had friends that stayed in the marriage way too long they went to divorce their they wanted to

00:49:54.520 divorce their ex-wife but they wanted it to be a mutual thing so they stuck in there until the why

00:50:00.840 they wanted to leave their wife but they wanted to make sure that their wife came to the agreement

00:50:06.280 that it wasn't working out and i have i've had guys hold on for years for that to happen when

00:50:15.560 the result in divorce court is going to be the same whether it's a mutual thing or whether she 0.99

00:50:21.160 divorces you she's still going to get 50 of your crap and take it to your kids so it's one of those 1.00

00:50:28.360 things if a guy um oh can you pin the link to the top of the chat i can't can you i'll do it 0.96

00:50:36.280 yeah i don't know why stream yards doesn't let me pin it or maybe i'm missing something thank you

00:50:43.160 um yeah so so here's the thing you're gonna have your stuff out there anyway understand i'm saying

00:50:51.480 i just think so you're gonna have to do the time so you might as well do the crime

00:50:57.560 understand i'm saying like she's gonna air you out anyway yeah and i think people would it be 0.99

00:51:05.320 easier for people to reconcile that you were an asshole and got left or her saying that you were 0.99

00:51:11.960 a nice guy because i think that if you were a nice guy people would be like well you had to 1.00

00:51:17.800 have done something maybe she how about this she's divorcing you and she's taking half your crap 1.00

00:51:24.120 but she's doing you a favor on the way out by calling you a nice guy and covering up what you 0.68

00:51:29.240 really did ah that um sorry i was hmm i think it's good that the women are putting this out there 1.00

00:51:43.000 not for the ex-husbands but at least you guys can google her and it'll come up

00:51:50.840 let's bring up sean do you do you oh it's sorry i'll let you finish go ahead no it's just you know

00:51:56.840 do should it be out there you know in between the families maybe in the local town you know at at

00:52:04.840 the wife's work and the husband's work yeah but this whole posting stuff online you know i cheat

00:52:10.280 on my husband i've never been happier and then people see the column writer's name and you're

00:52:16.200 like wait there are people that know that man understand what i'm saying and they're gonna be

00:52:21.000 Like, what did your ex-wife just put on, you know, on BuzzFeed or something? 0.51

00:52:27.540 And then you're offensive.

00:52:29.620 So out in the public sphere, I say no.

00:52:32.740 You know what's crazy?

00:52:33.660 This woman that's suing me right now, she is suing me because her ex-husband came on my show and told the divorce story. 1.00

00:52:44.740 And she said she wasn't a public figure. 0.99

00:52:47.600 This bitch wrote a book about her divorce. 1.00

00:52:51.000 that figures do you know what i mean it's like 0.99

00:53:00.420 the audacity all right let's bring up sean he's always a good caller

00:53:06.300 sean how's it going it's going well so what are your thoughts would you rather if you're um

00:53:14.260 if your ex wrote an article about you would you rather it say that you were the perfect husband 1.00

00:53:21.000 or that you were an asshole to be honest i would rather have her say that i was an asshole because 1.00

00:53:28.780 what i've noticed is women respect assholes like they they respect guys who don't take their shit 1.00

00:53:34.560 and put them in their place and so i i think that would give me more street cred than sort of 1.00

00:53:40.280 i'm the nice guy who you know she cheated on or what have you like i don't think other women look 1.00

00:53:46.720 at guys who got cheated on and think, I want to sleep with that guy, if that makes sense.

00:53:50.620 So if the relationship is coming to an end, I'd rather it come to an end on terms that are going

00:53:55.100 to benefit me in the long run. That's how I kind of see it. And what do you think about these

00:53:59.320 articles? So I think it kind of depends on sort of what group you fall in. Like I would say for

00:54:05.560 young men, I think this is a good thing because there won't be many young blue pill men these 1.00

00:54:11.740 days. I'll say it that way. Like as someone who came from the millennial generation, there was a

00:54:15.760 of blue pill guys growing up uh and a lot of guys are going through divorces and sort of my age

00:54:20.560 group at this point so uh i don't think we're going to see as many marriages amongst young men

00:54:25.680 these days so i think in some ways it kind of helps in some ways it kind of hurts right

00:54:31.280 uh being somewhat naive there is a good that comes with that because you are somewhat just

00:54:36.480 have more of an optimistic view in life but at the same time you're not going to get

00:54:40.320 you know smacked across the face later on uh thinking that you know girls are all you know

00:54:45.760 nice and whatnot uh i would say for young millennial women this is probably a bad thing 1.00

00:54:50.880 because this normalizes this whole divorce porn eat pray love that a lot of

00:54:56.480 millennial women like to sort of feed on that like airing out the sort of messages i see more 1.00

00:55:02.160 and more women that even i went to high school with going on tick tock and quote unquote speaking 1.00

00:55:07.040 their truth about the way what are they saying you got anything you got any tick tocks we should

00:55:12.640 look up uh yeah i mean i can send you a link to a particular girl i know uh she's like in in sort of

00:55:19.520 the uh greater houston area and she goes on a lot of podcasts now and she talks about how she's 36

00:55:26.000 and she's still trying to find her man and trying to find a man on her level and all that bs and so

00:55:32.400 post it in the private chat yeah we'll bring it up yeah i'll post the link about it in the private

00:55:38.000 chat but yeah i mean i i would say it just becomes way too normalized uh and so i don't think it's

00:55:44.400 good for at least the millennial women because i think more and more are going to start becoming 1.00

00:55:49.120 dissatisfied in their marriages as they sort of go down the the marriage pipeline and once they've

00:55:53.840 had their second kid and they're feeling those same feelings of okay i've already had the kids

00:55:58.000 that i want this relationship has soured uh i think a lot of them are gonna look towards some

00:56:04.160 sort of confirmation bias like a lot of you know these women posting online about their sort of 1.00

00:56:08.640 divorce porn narrative and i think this gives a lot of credibility to it uh given that women 1.00

00:56:15.040 tend to follow what other women say uh and so i mean you'll notice this right like a lot of women 1.00

00:56:20.000 like if they have other women around them that are divorced that are all saying oh you should

00:56:23.120 leave him and it's perfectly fine to leave your husband they tend to leave their husband right 0.97

00:56:28.080 uh and then i would say for older men i think it is kind of bad at least for the ones that you know

00:56:35.040 are uh online seeing this because i think a lot of these guys are still in their sort of blue pill

00:56:40.240 world and i think to some degree if you guys remember that movie the matrix there was a line

00:56:44.880 that said ignorance is bliss so i think you know a lot of them are kind of far into their marriages

00:56:50.080 i think the less they know about this side of the world the better uh yeah that's true like the the 0.53

00:56:55.840 the woman could have an article and the husband just won't be on the internet. So he has no idea

00:57:00.460 what she's doing. Exactly. You know, if I'm a guy and I've been married for some 30, 40 years and

00:57:05.260 my wife cheated on me and that's what a lot of the women in her age group are doing, I don't even 1.00

00:57:10.040 want to know about it. You know, I'm so far in this, like, I don't even want to know what, you

00:57:15.000 know, stepping out of this marriage and going back to the shit dating market is even going to look 0.99

00:57:18.980 like. It's not like the divorced women dealing with them is going to be any better. So I'd rather 1.00

00:57:23.160 just not know you know what i mean yeah actually doug mpa in your marriage would you rather have

00:57:29.560 if she could have kept on the act would you rather have not known about the infidelity

00:57:35.700 i'm i'm glad i knew um and remember how um one of my friends because i found out um

00:57:48.480 And one of my friends, she went out on a date with someone that one of my friends was working with.

00:57:57.940 So this person reached out.

00:58:00.360 So my friend was like, hey, you know, I think one of my coworkers went out with your wife.

00:58:06.600 And that's how I found out.

00:58:07.960 So I'm glad I found out.

00:58:10.340 So let me ask you this, Doug.

00:58:12.040 I mean, in this relationship, I mean, I assumed when you found out the relationship had already soured.

00:58:17.040 Is that correct?

00:58:17.620 Oh, yeah, 100 percent. We were long distance, halfway out the door.

00:58:21.280 Yeah. So, I mean, I think Gary Owens, he talked about this in his divorce story on The Breakfast Club.

00:58:26.240 He said no good marriage ever ended because of cheating, but a lot of bad ones have.

00:58:30.760 Right. So if that marriage was really awesome, would you still want to have known if she cheated or would you have preferred to not know?

00:58:39.460 You know what I mean? Like if that marriage was a 10 out of 10.

00:58:41.540 i think that men should know if a wife is cheating or a girl is cheating because it's 0.99

00:58:48.900 all men ask you to do to give a woman the world is to not be a whore like you know so yeah i mean 0.99

00:58:59.560 and here's the thing we were having i'm glad i found out because we were having issues we 0.95

00:59:05.080 were long distance and stuff and i was trying to figure out how to work things out but then i

00:59:09.840 found out that um she cheated and that i kind of solved that problem and made it easy so you know

00:59:17.060 i i filed for divorce right when i found out so yeah i mean it it kind of solved all all the

00:59:23.420 life's major problems right there so i'm glad that i found out let me add yo to the stage

00:59:31.720 and prison immortal to get you guys takes uh let's start with i think prism immortal was on first

00:59:37.820 so um would you rather if your ex wrote an article about you would you rather 1.00

00:59:43.100 her call you an asshole or say you were the perfect husband 1.00

00:59:46.380 uh that's a great question i don't necessarily my ex was in 2022 so it's been quite a long time 0.99

00:59:56.320 since i've ever thought about that um i guess what were the questions when we're talking i best

01:00:01.920 okay so if you're if you're if you're if your ex wrote an article about you it could either have

01:00:09.700 one headline i don't know if you're married or don't just say you were married and it said 0.98

01:00:14.260 my ex-husband was an asshole or i she i cheated on the perfect husband i cheated on my husband 1.00

01:00:24.220 because he was an or i cheated on my husband because he was too perfect which one i would 1.00

01:00:32.780 prefer like i cheated on my husband because he's too perfect simply because i don't know there's

01:00:38.220 kind of a sense of like a power move if that makes sense there's sort of like well he can take it

01:00:43.580 he's perfect i don't know if that's the right answer i suppose but yeah there's no right or

01:00:49.500 wrong i think there's pros and cons if she's calling you an i mean she might be going she

01:00:56.140 might go around tell everybody that so you don't know if she's gonna bring it to your work or what

01:01:01.820 pros and cons but anyways um so when it comes to women writing articles do you think it's a 1.00

01:01:11.260 good thing that women are now being out in the open about us just being like terrible people 1.00

01:01:16.540 you know what i mean so like the cheating now we're writing articles we're talking about it

01:01:20.540 on tick tock where before we would just gaslight so we would just say women we don't do that 1.00

01:01:27.340 well what are you talking about men are the cheaters we would do the projection we're like

01:01:31.500 you guys are the cheaters you're always yes like well i guess now now we're just we're like you

01:01:40.140 you know what? Yeah, we are whores. I'm going to write an article. 1.00

01:01:45.060 Well, there's always been this sense, like even historically of like, you know,

01:01:48.480 having a moral framework of like, you know, even like, you know,

01:01:51.260 the nuns and being devout to God and stuff like that. And so I don't know,

01:01:55.220 that may be, I honestly,

01:01:58.100 you didn't hear about the nuns that had like a hundred dead babies under the 1.00

01:02:02.080 nunnery from 1900. You know, there's, there's, yeah.

01:02:07.100 yeah it was just found out i could look it up it was like there's multiple accounts of it yeah

01:02:12.360 i mean there is there is bones in the bathhouses and in rome or something ancient rome or something

01:02:19.340 like that the infant mortality rate used to be a third which is coincidentally the same as the

01:02:26.960 abortion rate today that's me just speculating if i'm being honest but i just think i think that's

01:02:32.800 too convenient so anyways yeah so what are what are your thoughts

01:02:37.920 gosh i mean my thoughts on it i i simply just am asking like you know simple questions in regards

01:02:47.320 to just how as society like how can we move forward i'm someone who's more interested in like

01:02:52.520 you know dealing with if you will um you know the plights of humanity as opposed to kind of maybe

01:03:00.480 more interpersonal it's been a long time it's sort of like more of like an obligation if that makes

01:03:04.880 sense i'm not like uh you know when it comes to the t app and all these very divisive ways of

01:03:10.480 expressing emotions it's really terrible to be honest and it's sort of i think a lot of people

01:03:15.600 come to your channel pro too to sort of make meaning out of all the horrible things that

01:03:20.160 we're seeing so it's sort of thank you for facilitating that but at the same time like

01:03:25.200 looking for solutions and i know you've mentioned kind of for a long time that you know you're not

01:03:29.920 necessarily giving solutions you're just reporting reality and so i guess sort of i wish i could

01:03:37.280 i just don't see like this is the challenge um women will never give up power like imagine 1.00

01:03:44.640 these nuns killed 800 babies you see this and i know and it's like okay are you gonna convince

01:03:53.760 women to like give up the right to i i see the only solution is giving women the freedom they 0.71

01:03:59.920 asked for that's it like i see the only solution is when women start being put on child support 1.00

01:04:07.520 like when they make more money like like men are then maybe you'll see the laws become more equal

01:04:14.880 but the problem is men are too benevolent they will even when men can put them on child support

01:04:19.360 they won't do it you know it's like 90 of the time but the man doesn't put the woman on child

01:04:26.240 support when he could or get alimony yeah women ask to work so and then the men are like no you

01:04:32.800 can be a housewife no it's you voted for this work for a lifetime see how much you like it

01:04:39.120 there you go and that's when you'll see women being like oh this is hard 1.00

01:04:43.120 all right you guys wanted to vote okay here's selective service just like the men we'll see 0.98

01:04:49.800 you in the military bitches yeah that's it that's that's personally that's the only solution i see 1.00

01:04:56.880 i'm open to other ones you know but i i don't see because women have just such a big voting block 1.00

01:05:03.840 do you know what i mean like what are you gonna and i've spoken to politicians you have to

01:05:08.320 understand i'm talking to men's at rights advocates that have done this for like 30 years

01:05:13.120 And it's worse now. So I'm like, you're going to go crazy if you think it's going to get better.

01:05:19.000 Same with the abortion. I mean, I know they celebrate Roe versus Wade, but I'm like, guys,

01:05:25.040 one out of three women's had an abortion now. I don't think we're winning. I just don't.

01:05:30.500 That is what they want.

01:05:32.520 So about that, I mean, like, when it comes to winning, though, like, do you see, like, I guess,

01:05:37.540 for example, like, you know, say there is like a patriotic sense behind, you know,

01:05:41.800 all men are kind of told to you know serve your country and do you know what's in the best interest

01:05:46.520 for the greater good and that benevolence that you're mentioning how the hell do we kind of like

01:05:52.120 you know improve humanity or society if like kind of the main structure of creating families

01:05:57.720 you know isn't existent do you see like other societies or cultures doing it better that can

01:06:03.560 you know potentially yeah i mean because i feel like right now we're so free that it's divisive

01:06:09.480 like we're just kind of falling apart at our own free will i mean it'll get better when society

01:06:15.320 falls apart but how long how long did it take rome did it take rome to fall i think it took

01:06:25.400 rome like 500 years to fall so we'll probably all be dead so that's my that's my prediction

01:06:31.960 i could be wrong but you know i i hope i am but i just let's see so from the start of the major

01:06:38.360 decline um until the fall it says 300 years um and i think some of them from the found this is

01:06:47.800 just chat gpt it says from the founding of rome to the final call or to the final fall of

01:06:53.800 constantinople it took over 2200 years so i mean i had an economist on he said maybe when i'm like

01:07:03.720 55 so if you're a man you can maybe hold on to hope that when you're like 50 that you could like

01:07:09.680 date a 20 year old maybe they'll be better then president how old are you buddy oh i'm 26 so you

01:07:19.080 know i'm just trying that's why the career going yeah i mean well it's just it's the worst thing

01:07:23.740 you can do is care about society right now honestly you just circle the wagons shrink your

01:07:30.540 circle focus on yourself and the people closest to you and that's it if you try to save society

01:07:36.100 you're going to waste your time you have to understand i've had the privilege of interviewing

01:07:40.860 men that really did try to save society okay and this is this is actually when i decided that i

01:07:47.220 was blackpilled and i give up um i will keep reporting the news but i do i do have to i

01:07:53.900 realized that i'll go crazy if i i try to fight this like try to not accept this um because i

01:08:00.700 interviewed men um that had fought for a lot of these organizations that were like between 50 to

01:08:08.460 80 years old and i just saw that they had gone insane because they'd been screaming things for

01:08:15.180 50 years and some of them i thought they were right some were wrong like these are a lot of

01:08:20.540 different issues like some of it was the war or some of it you know men's rights like it's a

01:08:26.620 couple different but regardless they were all fighting for things that just you know likely

01:08:31.420 are never going to change and i looked at them and i'm like i do not want to end up like you

01:08:36.860 you guys are going crazy so i just you know i i can hope i can hope it'll get better i just wouldn't

01:08:43.940 know predicted if i had like a ball you know i mean just my take like i think we could incentivize

01:08:53.220 like people to get married earlier but you got to align it with like kind of what women want 1.00

01:08:58.740 and you have to like set age sort of cut off so you got to be like if you get married by 22 and

01:09:03.860 you're married for like 10 15 years then like you don't have to pay any student loans you know you

01:09:09.460 don't you get these tax benefits things like that and if not you have to pay it all yourself and i

01:09:14.500 think you might see a lot of women get married a little bit earlier i don't think so i don't think

01:09:20.020 so at all i don't think there's any amount of money that you could give women to have children

01:09:25.940 that's true yeah i don't i don't see that happening i mean maybe like when we're older but not young

01:09:36.020 because even at 22 the consequences for the student loans haven't really hit you yet

01:09:42.520 i mean i know i know women at 22 i went one of my roommates in college had six figures

01:09:49.500 in in student debt and then she went and went to graduate school and got another six figures

01:09:56.420 and you know it was crazy this was one of the cheapest women i ever met like in terms of day 1.00

01:10:04.100 to day it was even crazier because she was so frugal day to day and i'm like it was such a

01:10:09.420 waste because you just keep going to school but she got married her husband i'm sure will pay for 0.99

01:10:14.620 it so i think you're right on that i mean a lot of girls i mean i've seen on dating app profiles

01:10:18.980 girls will brag about how they've racked up so much student loan debt and so like uh just the 1.00

01:10:24.500 fact that they're doing that i think they just see you know their mistakes as a way for men to

01:10:28.680 kind of clean up their problems oh man that's what it is the the other guy on the panel i can't see

01:10:35.580 his name yeah sorry yo what is your thoughts on women cheating would you rather be would you 0.99

01:10:40.500 rather the article be titled my ex-husband is an asshole so i cheated and imagine by the way when 1.00

01:10:47.380 she calls you an asshole she sprinkles and stuff that could be true or not true like a womanizing 1.00

01:10:52.640 alcoholic piece of shit you know and then the second one and then the second one i cheated on 1.00

01:11:01.320 my husband but he was perfect i mean we all know you know this is 2025 we've been studying women 1.00

01:11:08.800 now for how long we know how they react we know the way the worst things they say about you

01:11:14.460 that just makes the girls interested all the more if they say you're nice and sweet

01:11:19.620 that you're the guy that's paying for the bill at the end of the day you're the guy that's you know

01:11:24.820 helping them to move the couch you're the you're the simp come on we know this you you want to be

01:11:30.580 the bad guy they love the bad boy yeah we do but would you be worried that it would impact like

01:11:38.020 your personal relationships work i mean this is a public article i mean at least at least with the

01:11:44.140 good you know my husband was perfect your boss can't come to you and say are you an alcoholic

01:11:50.380 cheat you know what i mean yeah but if he said he's perfect then you know your job is safe

01:11:55.360 i mean celebrity status you got to do damage control

01:12:00.280 okay okay so the other question what do you think about women writing these articles is this a good 1.00

01:12:09.800 thing a bad thing i'm saying it's good because now at least you guys know doug's saying it's bad

01:12:15.080 because the guy's getting humiliated what's your take you know honestly even if there's like a fake

01:12:20.680 story going around we can learn from things whether they're true or not and there's always

01:12:24.840 a lesson there's always a story so i say you know put everything out there and uh let us all learn

01:12:31.880 together great all right we got jason on the panel for the show hey bro can you hear me i can hear

01:12:42.360 you but there's a little bit of an echo oh sorry about that uh can you hear me now is that better

01:12:49.080 yeah that's better um so what are your thoughts would you rather be the guy um my i cheated on 1.00

01:12:58.280 my ex-husband because he was a drunk alcoholic piece of shit asshole um or 1.00

01:13:05.960 i cheated on my husband because he was too perfect 1.00

01:13:10.680 well before i give you my answer um pearl i don't know if you know what you're doing

01:13:17.240 on this youtube platform it's a lot bigger okay goodbye it's like what why are you here

01:13:24.680 i know no headphones echoing in a freaking basement somewhere are you serious dude

01:13:32.680 that was a cubicle i don't know i just why are you here just sometimes i don't know okay so

01:13:43.880 doug mpa what are your thoughts on what the guys were saying what did you agree with and disagree

01:13:48.680 with um well once again this one is where i can see both sides uh the argument it's just um i

01:14:01.080 once again it's the public part for me like women just in fact i'm gonna ask

01:14:09.400 i'm going to ask the panel a question i always say the worst thing about modern women is that 1.00

01:14:14.440 they can't keep their mouth shut they're sharing things on social media that women in the past 1.00

01:14:20.920 would have taken to their graves there's nothing i know modern women are horse baby mamas nothing 1.00

01:14:26.040 worse is there anything worse than a modern woman with a big mouth gentlemen what's worse 1.00

01:14:35.880 sorry it's a question uh is i guess sean yeah sean you can go first uh yeah i mean uh i mean

01:14:47.620 to me it does get on my nerves like uh that's why i like i'd rather deal with a traditional girl in 1.00

01:14:52.560 general but uh yeah i mean i i personally can't stand girls who kind of run their mouth let alone 1.00

01:14:58.120 ruin my reputation publicly okay question you're at the mall do you want your which girl do you

01:15:04.700 prefer the one who's hitting you but she's quiet or the one who's screaming and making a scene and 0.97

01:15:11.120 everybody can hear that's a good question i'll take the hitting to be honest me too

01:15:16.740 men will take getting beat over dad that's i mean every girl i've dated has taken a swing at me and 0.96

01:15:27.340 i think most guys have had a girl take a swing at them and if she can do it with her mouth shut 1.00

01:15:31.540 that's so much better than nagging that's my take on it yeah good sorry i got nothing else

01:15:46.180 again pa you got anything else yeah i was trying to think of another question but i'm blanking go

01:15:52.580 ahead yeah so um imagine if you divorced your ex-wife or you had a long-term relationship

01:16:04.740 and all of a sudden she wrote something or that a tick tock went viral and the people

01:16:09.860 that you cared about saw her version of the story and you're put on the back so let's say she

01:16:15.700 she she called you an right what kind of damage control would you do like so you you go to work

01:16:23.860 and then all of a sudden all your co-workers are on freaking business insider or or something huh

01:16:31.780 good do you know what i think in my media experience they always said to ignore stuff

01:16:37.780 and i've just found that doesn't work at all it doesn't work you gotta you gotta attack back like 0.99

01:16:42.980 fuck you that's what i would say but you guys have you guys have dealt with more women than 1.00

01:16:47.460 i have so give me your takes sean what do you think yeah i mean if a girl is saying something 1.00

01:16:53.140 about you publicly like if you're not a sort of uh public figure so to speak then i would say

01:16:59.780 it's okay for you to like just you know attack back and then just tag all her friends and say

01:17:05.140 all the like really bad things that she has done uh just because a woman's reputational damage is 1.00

01:17:10.660 going to be far worse than a man's reputation but if you are a public figure then i would just say

01:17:15.780 don't say anything for two weeks and then like let the you know news cycle move on to something else

01:17:21.300 uh that's probably the better play to be done uh just because all you're going to do is add fuel

01:17:25.940 to the fire like if you like i mean a lot of people are seeing with like sadia khan right

01:17:29.860 like she's responding back and it's actually making it a lot worse because now people are

01:17:33.700 doing reaction videos to that right so it it sort of amplifies that in the news cycle which is not

01:17:38.660 actually what you want but if you're a nobody in public and you know your girlfriend is saying x y

01:17:44.500 and z about you the only people who are really going to see it are people in your social circle

01:17:48.980 so you know any attacking back you really do is really just going to do more damage to her than

01:17:53.780 it is to you because nobody's going to really care about whether a guy looks good or bad but for a

01:17:58.420 girl it has a lot of effects on them and it's why like a lot of girls will remove pictures of their 1.00

01:18:03.540 exes on their instagram because it makes them look like a slut if it's still posted there but 1.00

01:18:08.820 if a guy keeps his up it doesn't really do any damage to him people just assume you know guys

01:18:14.340 mess around or whatever the case may be with exes cool um what do you think

01:18:26.260 so i guess my main kind of take on it is um i'm not really in a position to make recommendations

01:18:32.420 in regards to how people should go about um i personally i'm just completely anti-petty anything

01:18:38.580 so doing anything publicly is it's very rude um i don't think it does any good for anyone other than

01:18:45.800 to stir things up um and so i mean uh going back to kind of whether or not you know an individual

01:18:53.320 should legally speaking if an individual should make a post or an article they have the freedom

01:18:58.020 to do that but at the same time like is it helpful or beneficial for anyone i don't think so so i

01:19:04.180 think sometimes it shuts the woman up though that was really my only thought but sometimes it can

01:19:10.020 make it worse so i i do understand that too go ahead see here's the thing about that prison

01:19:17.940 men used to take the high road and do the right thing but women call that patriarchy and misogyny

01:19:24.260 right so you got to give women what they ask for dude if they're gonna air you out 0.99

01:19:32.100 you don't owe these women any kind of you know you don't have to spare them anything it's what

01:19:37.940 they're asking for you know and it's funny a lot of guys look oh yeah you know she crashed out but

01:19:43.380 he looks even worse for crashing out i'm not i'm not the one i'm not that way anymore so someone

01:19:48.820 can't commit verbal emotional and physical violence on a person and then expect the

01:19:54.260 person to take the higher road no those days are over yeah there's women still want to police 1.00

01:20:01.460 women still want to police how a man responds to violence that they inflict on them 1.00

01:20:07.940 so i i will make one caveat is that you know if let's say someone saying like an ex's girlfriend

01:20:14.980 or whatever you know wife is saying something bad about you like if you have kids with her it's not

01:20:19.060 a good idea for you to say something back to be honest for a few reasons is number one is your

01:20:23.860 kids might see it later on and it's not going to make you look good in any light and then number

01:20:28.100 two is that girl has control of your kids she can drag you into court she can do all sorts of things 1.00

01:20:34.740 and you know if you're on her bad side whether it comes to like trying to figure out some sort

01:20:38.980 of parenting schedule or what have you that can get into a real mess real fast and a lot of girls 1.00

01:20:44.260 especially when they feel scorn can be very vindictive and you know the biggest problem

01:20:51.460 the biggest problem that is that your kids are going to see her version because it's out there

01:20:59.060 so that's so so if you don't say anything they're only going to see her version and odds are it's

01:21:06.980 going to be the female friendly version of the story where you're an you're the villain and 0.61

01:21:11.380 she's the hero and the victim all at once that's fine but you can always talk to your kids in

01:21:16.900 private and just be like hey your mom's crazy right like you know and and they'll see like

01:21:22.580 she's being very emotional and acting out and you're being very calm and collected so like

01:21:26.580 i i think as it relates to your children specifically and not maybe the greater you

01:21:30.980 know world they may see a different story like you can kind of handle that but man if you ever

01:21:36.340 had to deal with a vindictive woman especially like i i have friends who deal with very vindictive 1.00

01:21:40.660 women like you know their relationship sort of crashed and burned and they are a nightmare to 1.00

01:21:46.100 deal with as it relates to kind of co-parenting kids you know if they want to change the flexibility

01:21:50.500 of the schedule and the the wife can do that or sorry the ex-wife can do that she's just not going 1.00

01:21:54.740 to do that simply out of spite see my thing is and i want more guys this is what i want to see more

01:22:01.940 guys if if a woman has a child against your will pay child support and move on you have to do the

01:22:09.060 right thing no you don't i know i have too many friends who have a new relationship or a new

01:22:13.140 marriage and it's affected by they have he has to live his life even with a new girlfriend a new

01:22:19.060 wife through his baby mama's feelings guys walk away pay the child support and just be ready to

01:22:24.740 tell your version of the story 15 years later when that kid knocks on your door say look i didn't

01:22:30.580 want you in the first place number one number two if your baby mother is contentious once again pay 1.00

01:22:38.100 in child support walk away and then say you know what i wanted to be in your life but your mother

01:22:42.820 was awful guys this is what women wanted you you only have one life you can't be a slave to some

01:22:51.140 crazy woman's emotions i was talking to this woman the other day and she said that 50 cent was a bad

01:22:58.660 father because his oldest son marquis hates him and i'm like she 50 cent has tried everything

01:23:06.180 for his son but his mother turned his son against him and he literally hangs out with all of his

01:23:11.780 opposition like men are expected to have this supernatural level of patience for their kids and

01:23:17.060 no no guys if you reach your limit with your baby's mother walk away all these guys oh they're

01:23:26.740 dealing with why why are they dealing with these women why it's their fault walk away pay your 1.00

01:23:34.580 child support there you go uh yeah what what do you think about the topic well first of all don't

01:23:43.320 previous topic i wanted to add don't forget the age-old wisdom of the past which is a gentle

01:23:49.860 answer turns away wrath put water on that flame um as for this situation with uh

01:23:58.320 you know i mean i don't know maybe it's just our current generation and that's where we're at but

01:24:05.880 you know my first kid i was trying to dodge that bullet but she wanted it and i get it women are 1.00

01:24:11.700 on that time clock you know they gotta lock that down so you know i did my little muhammad ali

01:24:18.540 dance but she was like a butterfly stinging like a bee and she got me but you know the the man in

01:24:26.920 tries to make it work. So I tried my darndest, you know, put everything in to make things work.

01:24:32.180 And it's not easy. But yeah, you have to, you know, do your best. You know, some guys get lucky

01:24:39.300 and they get the gems. Some of us get coal. You know, sometimes, you know, you get what looks

01:24:45.680 like coal and you crack it open and there's a diamond in there. And other times it looks like

01:24:49.820 a diamond and you drop it and it's fake. So, you know, we don't know what we're going to get,

01:24:55.120 You know, until you get to know people. And, you know, I always tell people, if you got to take five years to get to know the real person, you know, behind the wedding ring you're trying to put on or, you know, get married to, you better do it because you're getting into something that's going to be, you know, possibly life or death.

01:25:17.480 would the would the panel prefer the desert or a nagging wife going public 0.87

01:25:26.200 so i guess like being in a desert and banned there for life or in the desert

01:25:33.600 banned in the desert for life

01:25:36.700 that's pretty brutal

01:25:40.500 so you're picking the nagging so you can be john the baptist 0.98

01:25:46.560 or there's a super chat go deal with the nagging woman but can't you just go on the roof and get 1.00

01:25:55.020 some peace up there no but she would just go public so that's the that's what he's saying

01:25:59.380 prison what do you think well it's kind of interesting because it asks the question how

01:26:08.940 much so like socialization do we need as human beings um there's kind of this i mean even the

01:26:15.260 headlines, just the male loneliness epidemic and everything like that. I think we're kind of seeing

01:26:19.580 that, you know, do I choose the nagging woman or do I choose the desert? And I think for a lot of 0.97

01:26:24.340 people, the desert is easier because it doesn't require kind of like a social contract or some

01:26:29.400 sort of agreement. But yeah. When did the whole, when did this whole thing get labeled as the male

01:26:38.360 loneliness epidemic that's just like from what i've seen yeah i'm just putting that there 2045

01:26:46.040 45 of women almost 50 will be single and childless but they're talking about a female loneliness

01:26:52.680 epidemic yeah but that's because responsibility it's because xanax wants to market drugs to them

01:27:00.280 right so like they don't want to say it back because they're going to make some money you

01:27:06.120 know as you look up i think it's like 25 of white women are on some sort of antidepressant

01:27:10.840 so you know there's money to be made over there versus like when men are lonely like there's no

01:27:15.880 money to be made by society so they're like ah okay we need to get these guys back up to spending

01:27:20.840 on women we got video games that p i know guys that blow the price of a house on a game 1.00

01:27:29.560 prism what was your question that you had i see it in the chat yeah so you want to ask it just

01:27:38.000 kind of around um more of like a where society heading it's sort of like there's this question

01:27:43.820 too it's like it seems like because dating is no longer an option and there's just so much social

01:27:47.680 friction it's like i've genuinely asked the question like well okay um i would like to have

01:27:52.640 kids in the future what are the options for surrogacy to just even circumvent you know this

01:27:57.940 type of tension between you know divorce and everything like that and it's kind of insane

01:28:03.020 you know like for example if like you know the country requires so much um you know people to

01:28:08.660 operate you know keep the economy going sorry there's like a loud car going over my building

01:28:13.300 right now but um you know do you ever meet men who are kind of around um you know an age where

01:28:20.880 they'd like to have kids and they start to actually start deciding you know not who i want

01:28:25.040 to be with rather like i'm ready for a child i'm ready to do surrogacy it seems like the price is

01:28:30.100 around like 300 000 at least in california yeah i've never i've never personally met a guy that

01:28:36.620 did surrogacy i've met a guy who said if he was ever going to have a child he would do it but not

01:28:43.280 someone that did it uh let's see what's it saying that'll doug mpa do you know anyone i'm just

01:28:49.200 looking at the no chat gpt says 100 to 200k um is the typical u.s range in california is the high

01:28:59.440 end at chat gpt says up to 230 maybe 300s actually average expectation 120 to 150.

01:29:09.840 yeah doug mpa if you wanted to buy a kid instead of a house you could do that

01:29:15.040 so so my thing about it is you know i remember guys don't sleep with don't sleep with single

01:29:22.160 mothers don't date them don't marry them leave them alone but there are tears to single mothers 1.00

01:29:28.160 the worst are single mothers by choice then baby mamas then divorcees and the least ones are the 0.99

01:29:37.680 the ones where the dad is dead, right? The most selfish thing a woman can do is bring a child 1.00

01:29:45.560 into this world with that child not ever knowing who their father is. That's the most selfish thing

01:29:52.680 a woman can do. Adopt the child alone, get inseminated, IVF all by herself. And I have to 1.00

01:30:00.340 keep that same standard for men. You're just going to go and plan on raising a child, 0.91

01:30:07.680 by yourself are you serious like are you a woman like what you know i'm saying i would rather now

01:30:14.000 i don't recommend i just don't think it's the same because guys are like good people

01:30:18.480 my dad did that he raised me and my older and younger brother wait was he married and divorced

01:30:26.240 um divorced but we were all so young but what yeah but wouldn't the kid be in a better place

01:30:32.720 Because, like, if you do the surrogacy route, then you have total control over how the kid turns out. 0.98

01:30:41.040 Or if you do the other route, the kid could be in a worse place because you have a crazy mother. 0.56

01:30:47.220 Yeah, but still, maybe it's not in as many statistical disadvantages.

01:30:54.860 You're still raising that child at a statistical disadvantage, even if it's slight over a two-parent household.

01:31:02.720 really yeah his mother and a father is still the optimal way to do it i just can't imagine

01:31:13.140 that statistic will be the same with the quality of women that are out there today 1.00

01:31:18.100 and how fried women's brains are by social media i just can't imagine that that might be the stat 1.00

01:31:25.320 of like 20 years ago but i i have a hard i just can't because i'm really thinking of the guys i

01:31:32.280 know doug mpa and the women i know and i just can't see how the women would really help at all

01:31:42.360 maybe i'm too black-filled but like i think like even you i i think if you were to have a kid

01:31:51.160 like i just could see you doing a better job than even having a woman there she'd just slow you down 0.98

01:31:57.400 you know what i i can't you are you with that i don't have any children but one of the reasons why 0.98

01:32:03.720 i don't have children is because you have to have a child with these crazy women out here guys i 1.00

01:32:08.840 fear nothing except co-parenting because i've seen some co-parenting relationships man i swear 0.72

01:32:15.400 i've seen people that cga says if you're thinking about marrying and having if you're thinking about 0.96

01:32:21.880 getting married or having children go to your local family court on a tuesday you can sit in

01:32:28.280 there and again i did that this was really you did that yeah uh-huh no way yeah wait maybe should i

01:32:36.600 can i bring my camera in there you probably can't right yeah you can it's it's a public building

01:32:41.960 oh oh i should go now now a lot of courtrooms you can't record in the courtrooms because it's behind

01:32:50.280 a door just put on your google glass i might actually i mean i don't want to get sued so if

01:32:57.560 it's illegal i'm not going to do it but you can't have cameras in in the courtrooms where you can

01:33:02.520 record in a courthouse but not in the courtrooms but yeah guys go down to your local family court

01:33:07.800 a fraternity court you can just walk in there and sit down and i spent about six hours on one

01:33:12.920 tuesday just sitting in different courtrooms and these are people that loved each other

01:33:20.280 christmases together new years and just at each other's throats and and i'm one of those people

01:33:27.720 if if i were to come home and my wife or whatever the mother of my children's like i'm not happy

01:33:34.440 and then leave and i'm a part-time dad where i only see my kids on the weekend and then she

01:33:39.400 moves in nug nug or freaking gavin the starving musician he's around my kids more than me dude

01:33:45.640 oh it'll it'll be a problem yeah i'm gonna do a level of cucked so i have a question who do you

01:33:51.480 guys think is more cucked a guy that's paying for the house and child support for his wife to get 0.87

01:33:58.840 banged out by a new dude or a guy in an open relationship like destiny where he's also

01:34:05.640 banging other women but she's also banging other men who's who's more cut let's assume 0.56

01:34:13.480 let's assume that um the relationship he actually can get other women and does get them 0.97

01:34:20.680 um doug mpa why don't you go first who's more cucked so the question is who's more cucked the 0.93

01:34:27.400 guy who who got divorced and is paying for his wife's lifestyle while she she's banging some 0.95

01:34:34.280 28 year old or like destiny you know and destiny was married you know when he was married he was

01:34:39.560 doing the open thing but he was banging other women you know i think the guy who got divorced

01:34:45.480 and has to pay for his wife's lifestyle while she's banging some young dude 0.95

01:34:49.240 he's more cucked that's what i'd say too but i'm open to suggestions prism who's more cucked

01:34:57.800 well i think that most people are going to say um gosh it's so hard because i think it's a matter

01:35:03.480 of like socialization right like if you have friends that are kind of more this open space

01:35:07.960 versus people who know you know because i feel like when it comes to the law and stuff you're

01:35:12.680 forced to pay that right like you're completely fucked in that way and so there's nothing that 0.96

01:35:17.400 you can do um whereas like with more of an open relationship it seems a little bit more ambiguous 0.87

01:35:23.320 i don't think a lot of people really know many people who are like that and unless you know you

01:35:28.280 do maybe it's like okay like whatever this guy just got unlucky it's gonna have to move on or

01:35:33.320 something like that so it seems like when it comes to just options and freedom i think that uh you

01:35:38.920 know definitely the guy who has to pay for child support is uh he got definitely more cut economically

01:35:45.080 speaking uh but from the socialization thing i think that's a little more uh you know people

01:35:51.160 you know it's not black and white i think people vary and they see the ambiguity behind it so

01:35:55.560 So it really depends on like where you're looking at, 0.99

01:35:59.300 like economically you're fucked or socially you're fucked. 0.98

01:36:02.560 I feel like socially there's still like a fluidity, 0.99

01:36:05.460 like people are able to, okay, like you can just leave type stuff.

01:36:09.700 But again, like didn't, you mentioned destiny.

01:36:12.500 I think didn't he like get a divorce and there was like a real,

01:36:15.200 I think there were some complications behind that that kind of screwed him

01:36:18.360 over a little bit more, but I'm not sure.

01:36:19.880 yeah well i meant that type of relationship but yeah i don't really i don't think he got too bad

01:36:27.920 to be honest financially i think i think he gave her some money but i don't think it was too bad

01:36:34.960 there's no kids so um yeah what do you think who's more cucked i mean the family man is definitely

01:36:42.580 in the worst situation i mean if you had to pick one i would rather be the guy who's at least you

01:36:48.440 know having some fun on the side but uh really quick wasn't there i heard something a while ago

01:36:56.040 about trump trying to make divorce 50 50 split is is this something that was just like a rumor

01:37:01.980 you'll never do it republicans have to get voted for by women i mean i i could i could sell dreams 0.99

01:37:12.600 i just don't see it happening it would kill divorces that's for sure yeah um sean what do

01:37:19.980 you think who's more cucked yeah i mean i would say the sort of two-way open relationship is

01:37:25.820 probably a little bit more cut and the reason why i say that is because you know the guy has to agree

01:37:31.240 to the girl also seeing other guys in order for him to see other girls it's not you know he can

01:37:38.080 see other girls and he can tell her, no, you can't see other guys. And so I think from that

01:37:44.060 standpoint, he's kind of cut because he doesn't really control his own household. And more than

01:37:48.700 likely in that open relationship, the guy is still paying for the girl versus the guy who has to make

01:37:53.620 the mortgage payments, who has to pay the child support. At least he can go around and tell his

01:37:57.680 friends like, you know, Jay Cutler and be like, oh yeah, I got screwed or, or whatever the case

01:38:01.460 at least he's not he's not opting into the screwing exactly yeah okay and so the situation

01:38:08.540 like you know obviously destiny's case right like you know his ex would never accept him saying oh

01:38:13.240 i'm open but you're not like if you even yeah right so that's why i would say someone who's

01:38:18.900 in that situation uh they're probably one of the more cuck side and and that that played out in

01:38:23.460 their marriage right you could kind of tell yeah well i was just gonna ask because i'm making a

01:38:27.960 hierarchy of cucked soon so it's gonna be on a triangle and i gotta pick so i wanted i wanted

01:38:34.600 to hear the arguments but this has been great so thank you guys so much for calling in i think

01:38:39.440 we're gonna wrap up the panel now so if you have any final thoughts on the topic uh feel free yo

01:38:45.420 you could go first then prism then sean so yo go ahead a lot of good stuff mentioned um great show

01:38:53.300 as usual appreciate being here and uh looking forward to the next one awesome thanks for calling

01:38:58.740 in calling anytime all right prism all right well thanks so much for you know answering my questions

01:39:06.100 definitely learned a lot appreciate what you do and you know i just my message to everyone watching

01:39:10.580 it's like i know everyone's probably pretty black filled but you know take care of yourself um that's

01:39:15.460 what you can do your own right and way just you know we're still here i suppose like i know that

01:39:22.820 society didn't really turn out how maybe a lot of us were expecting but uh yeah that's that's

01:39:28.580 all i've got to say so thank you thanks and on the bright side you know if you're into horrors

01:39:35.060 there's a lot of them so enjoy fellas um sean what are your final thoughts yeah i mean my final

01:39:45.460 thought is that you know this is still a lot of the folks watching is that like at the end of the

01:39:49.300 day women are emotional and that's why they cheat they cheat off of emotion whether it's arousal 1.00

01:39:54.100 whether it's they just thought the guy was funny whether they just got bored of their

01:39:58.260 current husband who they refer to as a perfect guy like there's a reason why even old rich women 1.00

01:40:03.940 are banging the you know el paco the gardener who's here illegally over you know

01:40:10.500 her billionaire husband it's just because at the end of the day girls want excitement and

01:40:14.580 like it or not no matter who you end up with every girl cheats and of the course of a you know even

01:40:20.820 a 45 50 whatever your marriage like it's just the reality and i think if you can learn to just

01:40:26.420 embrace that whoever you get is going to cheat on you it might just be once in your life it might

01:40:31.220 be every other week whatever the case may be i think you'll be better off as far as who you

01:40:36.340 select instead of thinking no i i got the right one i did it the right way the tradcon way you

01:40:41.860 know i think if you just accept the reality for what the world is you'll make a better choice at

01:40:46.180 the end of the day yeah i agree thanks for calling in thanks guys hey pearl do women become miserable 0.99

01:40:56.580 as they age because as a man i love my 40s better than my 20s and why are women so bad with money 1.00

01:41:02.420 you know there's an evolutionary reason why women are so bad with money and i cannot think of it 1.00

01:41:07.860 off the top of my head um i think it's because women have to have nesting habits 1.00

01:41:15.700 um i'll get it to you in next show we maybe we can do a show on that but

01:41:19.940 i i know there's actually an evolutionary reason um and yeah women become miserable because 1.00

01:41:27.700 it's like guys i mean we experience being celebrities in our 20s like we walk into a room

01:41:34.980 and we're the center of attention like you have to understand so many people pay attention to

01:41:40.420 what we're doing all the time like i i'm not you know i'm not invisible yet one day i will be

01:41:47.540 but you have to understand most of even if you're an average woman you walk into a bar

01:41:53.060 there's a few guys paying attention to what you're doing and you just have to slowly watch yourself

01:42:00.020 become invisible men start invisible nobody cares what you guys do do you know what i mean like you

01:42:06.500 guys and there's something there's got to be some level of freedom and nobody caring you know it's

01:42:11.540 got to be lonely but on one hand there's like a level of freedom because no one's really paying

01:42:15.620 attention you can do whatever you want nobody knows um but women there's always somebody paying 1.00

01:42:22.100 attention always um and then we just have to watch it slowly go away all through life and we just

01:42:30.080 then go into being nothing go ahead if you google why are women so bad with money ai overview says 1.00

01:42:36.960 um the the premise that women are bad with money is a harmful stereotype not supported by facts

01:42:43.840 so systemic and economic obstacles include the gender wage gap the motherhood penalty and

01:42:53.580 caregiving responsibilities apparently those are the three reasons why according to google ai

01:42:59.760 that women are bad with money no i had um i had a guy who wrote a really in-depth book on

01:43:08.620 evolution on and i know there's a reason but i'm this is later than we normally do the show

01:43:16.300 so i'm getting a little sleepy and i'm not thinking of it off the top of my head but

01:43:20.220 i'll have it next show guys i'll remember um yeah but that's all i got doug mpa thanks for calling

01:43:28.620 in today yeah yeah always this is a really good topic and it just once again like i said earlier

01:43:35.580 the worst thing about modern women is they can't keep their mouth shut you know how many women that 1.00

01:43:39.900 are on the internet that they could have won if they would have just kept their mouths shut 0.99

01:43:46.380 britney ritter could have won dude she was supposed to be a freaking millionaire's wife 1.00

01:43:53.020 a billionaire's wife no shut up no i don't think she could have gotten that i mean not with her 0.99

01:43:59.580 even without the book she just doesn't have the demeanor but what but she could she could have 0.99

01:44:06.000 been an athlete's wife i think she could have went there i mean she kind of was for a little bit

01:44:10.880 she could have done and or she could have been what is the most white collar guy you think she 1.00

01:44:17.180 could have gotten i don't think she could have been a millionaire billionaire's wife unless it 1.00

01:44:21.720 was like maybe an entertainment what do you think yeah i would agree i would agree because

01:44:27.100 no man that has to work through corporate 0.96

01:44:29.440 no man that needs 1.00

01:44:31.460 all of this bandwidth to achieve

01:44:33.440 like you know a surgeon or

01:44:35.140 or a high price

01:44:37.600 defense attorney would be

01:44:39.540 able to deal with that he'd have too much work to do

01:44:41.720 and she would want too much of

01:44:43.420 his attention so I agree with you 100%

01:44:45.520 she could be a rapper's wife 1.00

01:44:47.620 she could have been 0.92

01:44:49.640 the black version of Saquon 0.80

01:44:51.340 Buckley's white black

01:44:53.380 looking wife let me see who that is 1.00

01:44:55.220 let's see oh some athlete yeah yeah she could have did that but she'll die alone instead 1.00

01:45:05.240 yeah i agree yeah yeah so um women admitted to cheating i mean i just you know i always feel

01:45:13.720 bad for the guys because everyone's gonna figure out who he is and he's so i can see both sides

01:45:18.600 other argument i can see what you're saying because we need to know women's nature but i

01:45:23.080 always thinking about the guy but that's at the cost of the man that she was with so i'm just

01:45:27.940 okay cool well thanks so much for watching everybody make sure you like the video on the

01:45:34.280 way out subscribe to the channel um and also if you can go to the audacity network.com and sign

01:45:40.100 up for our monthly subscription um i am now in a different city i was going to announce it until i

01:45:48.560 decided for safety reasons maybe i shouldn't um but i'll tell you what it is the price of a cup

01:45:55.360 of coffee i thought you know i thought doug mpa and i had a conversation last show and i was like

01:46:03.120 that's not coffee's not that expensive in the city holy crap yeah it is yeah yes it is yes it is

01:46:10.480 All right, thanks for watching guys. We'll see you next time. Have a good one.

Pearl - September 11, 2025

Is Modern Women Admitting To Cheating a Good Thing？

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