Pearl - Is There a Right or Wrong Way to Mourn (Call-in Show)

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00:00:10.100 I can just share my screen or no?

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00:00:54.060 All right, what up, guys?

00:00:55.460 Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.

00:01:02.080 So we are streaming live from my brand new studio.

00:01:06.360 So as you guys know, obviously in the wake of things, I'm not going to say where I moved,

00:01:12.420 but I recently moved and we have a brand new studio, so we're going to cheers to that.

00:01:18.200 I have a chalice, so my producers.

00:01:21.200 okay so I want to talk about why I started my show in the first place and what really I guess

00:01:33.160 pushed me to have a show like this you know in part of it it's got to be that I'm a woman and

00:01:41.620 I just love attention I mean let's just let's just be honest here that's that's got I mean

00:01:46.460 not like consciously, because in my front brain, I don't really think that's there. But you know,

00:01:51.700 in like behind brain somewhere, it's got to be. But I think more than that, what has been really

00:01:57.360 important to me is I always loved having a space where we could just talk about ideas.

00:02:03.860 And talk about ideas freely, where you're just not judged for having different thoughts and

00:02:09.280 having different opinions. And you can just go back and forth with people. You know, I always

00:02:14.040 imagined that safe spaces wouldn't be the safe spaces we have today like now we have these safe

00:02:19.840 spaces and the safe space is what they are is they are safe spaces where you can't say anything

00:02:27.440 i you know like my version of a safe space is a place where anyone can say anything and you get

00:02:36.760 like immunity where you we could go back and forth about these ideas to figure out the best way to

00:02:42.920 think or the best, you know, the best way to go forward. And you get immunity. Nobody can use it

00:02:47.740 against you later. And obviously the internet can't be that. But that's really just like what

00:02:54.140 I had in mind, a place where, you know, like I think I'm going to do a morning show one of these

00:02:59.140 days called Hear Me Out, where I bring on a liberal and we just have to go back and forth

00:03:04.220 and think, you know, you have to hear me out about this idea. And, you know, the liberals could also

00:03:10.100 try to convince me and i remember one of my first videos that went viral was me actually i was in

00:03:17.780 england so i moved from america um to london and when i was there one of one of my first people

00:03:24.500 think that my first viral videos are the panel shows that i did and it actually wasn't it was

00:03:29.860 actually a show i did where it would be a long form reaction series so they'd be two three hour

00:03:35.460 videos, and I would bring in a friend that had never heard of this stuff, and she would

00:03:40.300 sit down, and I would explain to her, you know, all the different conservative talking

00:03:45.260 points.

00:03:45.660 I'd show her Jordan Peterson, I'd show her Rolo Tomasi, and it was such a good series

00:03:50.940 because neither of us came into it with an ego, and it was a very, like, happy back and

00:03:56.140 forth where she'd say, well, I think this way, and I'd say, well, I think this way.

00:04:00.020 It was just a fun series, you know.

00:04:01.680 and the reason I'm going to preface this when I do today's show is because I do think I'm going

00:04:08.620 to get some sort of backlash and heat for the topic I picked today because I think it does

00:04:14.840 seem a little bit insensitive with what's maybe going on but I do think this is something that's

00:04:23.340 going through a lot of people's minds and I really just wanted to bring together a platform where we

00:04:30.680 can have a conversation about it. So if you're not willing to listen, I guess, to a conversation

00:04:37.160 that may be a little bit offensive, I would just tune out now. It might be, you know, towing the

00:04:42.700 lines on what's acceptable and what's unacceptable. You know, this is my four, this is my trigger

00:04:48.640 warning. Not to say this definitely isn't the most controversial show I've done. But I do want

00:04:55.960 to explore, I guess, a certain concept and idea and a conversation that I've seen circulating

00:05:03.040 on X. So as you guys know, Charlie Kirk passed away last week. This was a conservative Christian,

00:05:09.680 I would say moderate. And this is a guy, and I think it was especially scary for YouTubers and

00:05:16.000 really America because Charlie Kirk really is not the most controversial. I mean, I said far

00:05:22.660 worse things than charlie kirk said in his career and again i've said this on previous shows but i

00:05:28.260 think a lot of americans saw like when i hear charlie kirk talk i think of the men i grew up

00:05:34.260 around i really do i mean a lot of them had the conservative christian values a lot of them

00:05:38.220 believed a lot of the things he believed he's kind of a normal looking white guy you know

00:05:42.900 i grew up around normal looking white guys so you know to see him go i think that's why it's

00:05:49.860 had such like a profound impact is because a lot of especially conservative Christian America

00:05:56.720 you identified with Charlie Kirk maybe not you didn't see him you in him but you knew somebody

00:06:04.380 that that reminded you of him like he he reminds me a little bit of one of my cousins they kind

00:06:11.320 of have the same vibe you know the dorky the dorky hard-working super positive guy

00:06:16.920 um so since he is passing I think Americans have gone through a lot of emotions not just Americans

00:06:27.420 but I think YouTubers have gone through a lot of emotions and it's been I think his friends

00:06:34.960 his family has gone through a lot of emotions and I think a lot of these a lot of these people I

00:06:41.840 mean they're hurt they're sad they're devastated they're scared you know they they don't feel safe

00:06:46.880 um but i couldn't help when i saw charlie kirk's wife um erica kirk and again i will say

00:07:00.360 i say this with no hatred in my heart i say this really more as an observation not a judgment

00:07:08.420 because I personally, if I was in her shoes, I can't imagine how I would react.

00:07:13.500 But I have just gotten such a weird, and I hate to say this because it sounds like I'm

00:07:19.660 five years old, but an icky feeling from the way that Turning Point and conservatives in

00:07:26.940 general have, it appears to me as a normal person, used the death to raise money, build

00:07:38.140 their brand and for clout. And I can't help but think that it seems a little bit disrespectful.

00:07:45.700 Now, I'd like to say this is not me judging them. This is not me saying, oh, I'm holier than thou.

00:07:52.200 I'm better than you. I do not know if I knew him personally, how I would react. I don't know

00:08:00.620 if I knew him personally, if I'd be angry. I don't know if I'd crash out. I don't know. I can't say

00:08:07.060 I met him once at an event like years ago, and I would say I took issues with some of his stances.

00:08:15.240 So I'm not going to come at this from a place of saying I knew him super well, I know how I would do it.

00:08:22.640 But this made me think of the concept in general, is there a right and a wrong way to mourn?

00:08:31.980 now I want to talk about a situation that I personally was in that's not that doesn't

00:08:37.540 necessarily have anything to do with this topic so uh my grandpa died a few years ago so it was

00:08:45.140 about I don't know maybe it feels like forever between five and ten years ago I'll say and I

00:08:52.680 remember on his deathbed like he my grandpa he basically died of old age right um and I really

00:08:58.820 wasn't that close with him but when he was dying I went to go see him and it was just a weird I

00:09:06.360 guess feeling when I went there and I remember some relatives of mine were wanting me to take

00:09:12.580 a picture with him and a lot of people were taking pictures and I don't know I you know I just went

00:09:19.460 with it because again death is such a sensitive topic you never I mean I thought about this show

00:09:25.980 for like two days I gotta be honest and I I think I just have this thing inside of me where I just

00:09:31.960 I have to be the one to say it and I think it's something at times I wish I could change

00:09:38.680 I wish was different but it's just how I am it's kind of how I've always been I'm just that girl

00:09:44.840 that just says things you know um and at the time at the time you know I just I remember smiling for

00:09:53.060 this picture and going along with it and just feeling like weird and thinking is this disrespectful

00:09:59.940 to my grandpa who's literally dying that we're just like taking a picture and and to be honest

00:10:05.440 i felt this in a number of scenarios not just this situation in itself so another example is i think

00:10:12.820 it's um i cannot think of the celebrity's name off the top of my head but there's a celebrity

00:10:19.100 and I know that he was a really successful guy and at one point I know he was like the Jackie

00:10:29.220 Chan of something I don't know what I know this is as a commentator I should have this name off

00:10:35.100 the top of my head but sometimes you know I take L's but this guy I know his family is making a

00:10:41.580 a hulu series or some sort of series about this guy's cognitive decline because he's no longer

00:10:51.000 the great guy he used to be i'm sure someone in the chat will know who i'm talking about because

00:10:55.620 this was pretty recent and there was still just a part of me that you know one part of you thinks

00:11:02.340 to the women it's generally women that tend to i don't want to say use death for clout

00:11:08.260 but if I had to use a word to describe it that's really what I you know what I would have to use

00:11:15.900 it to say right and there's just a part of me that I just get this sick feeling in my stomach

00:11:21.900 like this is a little bit off and wrong but again you don't want to be that's why I had to give this

00:11:30.740 I guess this forewarning that this is a I think I feel like I'm having a controversial thought

00:11:38.660 that's how I feel talking about this like but I just have to I can't it's just in me I have

00:11:44.800 this fire I have this like thing in my stomach I just can't so

00:11:48.720 there's just a part of you that thinks oof I don't know if this is respectful

00:11:58.580 now Charlie Kirk is a little bit different to be fair I mean Charlie Kirk on the other hand he had

00:12:06.020 a mission so he had a mission to spread conservative values to the youth he had a mission

00:12:11.980 he had a mission to raise a bunch of money for conservative causes so I guess it's not exactly

00:12:22.240 surprising that even his death are doing that. But still, there's a part of me that I just get

00:12:28.560 this icky feeling. Now, I tweeted this the other day, and I'm going to show you the video that

00:12:39.040 really, I guess, inspired this tweet. I said, I have no hatred in my heart when I say this,

00:12:45.940 but watching Erica Kirk post Charlie Kirk's dead body on social media, as well as the marketing

00:12:51.860 campaign after just gives me a weird feeling. Now, I want to go through some of the responses

00:12:58.840 people have because I do think these are fair responses and I don't necessarily have a feeling

00:13:05.260 one way or the other. I don't think this is a right or a wrong conversation, but it is a

00:13:10.740 conversation. I'm really just interested in getting the public's opinion on and seeing what

00:13:15.300 people have to say we're going to do a call in later this show because I just have to you know

00:13:22.740 ask the question now I'd like to say I am not accusing Erica Kirk of of of doing this when I

00:13:33.500 say this but I'm going to say women in general our strategy generally is to get as much attention as

00:13:39.360 possible because that brings in male suitors either directly or indirectly you know that's

00:13:44.700 why I give a lot of pushback when women use their relationship to build their brand because you're

00:13:49.060 bringing attention to the relationship becomes marketing for the next relationship I am not

00:13:53.640 accusing her I do not think that that is what she is doing from what I have seen however it's still

00:14:01.120 again it just gives me a weird feeling so I want to give some of the you know we have Luffy in the

00:14:07.040 chat um saying hypergamy doesn't care we had reclaim your throne saying exactly exactly why

00:14:12.980 is it controversial to say this so there are some people that do agree with me and i do feel and hear

00:14:18.560 that sentiment on x you know people are kind of saying is this a respectful thing to do is this

00:14:24.360 a bad way to honor the dead and i don't have your comments on guys because i have to give these

00:14:30.380 thoughts without i'm gonna read your if you're in the chat giving supers or whatever i will read it

00:14:35.760 but i just knew if i gave this monologue and you guys started crashing out it would it would make

00:14:41.140 me feel like a bad person, so I'm just going to have to go through it. And then I'll get your

00:14:47.000 feedback. Now, I think, I'm wondering if this is my cousin. I think this might be my cousin,

00:14:54.340 but I'm not sure. Bacon, I think that's my cousin. He said, people are motivated like never before.

00:14:59.720 In two months, no one will care or will donate. If you want Charlie's legacy to be funded for

00:15:04.980 decades, you do it now. Three months from now, maybe you got a year. Does it suck? Yes. Does

00:15:09.480 it feel icky sure but it's human nature sales 101 I don't know I just I want to make a joke

00:15:25.580 about a certain group of people it feels a bit but I can't say it but the groypers will get it

00:15:31.020 So, okay, so as I tell my students, and some people are saying, Pearl, what are you, 12?

00:15:43.080 You know, sometimes I act like it.

00:15:45.000 I hate to keep saying I'm a woman, but you know what I mean?

00:15:48.740 It's kind of like when the men stare at the boobs and people are like, why are you staring at the boobs?

00:15:53.480 And then you're like, well, he's a man.

00:15:56.700 That's kind of how I feel when, you know, we say that female nature applies to me too.

00:16:02.460 Obviously.

00:16:03.680 Duh.

00:16:04.700 Sorry.

00:16:07.140 All right.

00:16:07.460 Who doesn't have the language for internal chaos?

00:16:09.940 Come on.

00:16:10.720 Describe what you are feeling or if you have thoughts, precisely state them.

00:16:15.160 Okay.

00:16:15.600 I think that's fair.

00:16:18.120 I think deep down in my psyche, I feel as though this is disrespectful to make money.

00:16:25.380 clout farm off of the dead maybe it's hypocritical me saying this as i make this a show topic

00:16:31.900 but i feel guilty saying that because it's such a sad situation maybe that's the best way i could

00:16:40.120 put it um if you think she's in control of the marketing campaign i don't know if she's in

00:16:46.220 control probably not right um that man lived in the public eye uh better that they control the

00:16:53.200 outflow of photos and then it's a better narrative than letting tmz run with it okay that's a good

00:17:01.280 point then i get the same you can't be more jealous of her that's usually what i get from

00:17:08.400 the women it's always valid concern valid point you're jealous i'm not even i mean

00:17:16.560 I don't even want to

00:17:20.480 this situation is sad

00:17:23.560 I don't think it's really

00:17:24.700 people don't understand how some female

00:17:31.440 presidents from different countries used to rise to power after their husband dies

00:17:35.720 this is the same scenario Matthew says I totally

00:17:39.460 agree but I doubt she's the one running her own socials right now

00:17:43.220 Okay, then someone else said,

00:17:47.180 we need a movement to change things,

00:17:49.080 in particular worrying about who's benefiting

00:17:51.700 won't help the situation.

00:17:53.120 Everyone needs a rally for thee.

00:17:55.420 Oftentimes you are clairvoyant

00:18:00.640 and extremely helpful in doing what you do.

00:18:03.100 Please don't turn into Ann Coulter.

00:18:06.120 Aw, I liked Ann Coulter, but.

00:18:09.980 So, I mean, that's really the sentiment.

00:18:11.860 the few the sentiments I've gotten is some people think it's justified because he had a movement I

00:18:17.220 think that's a fair argument some people think um it is too far I don't know I just I saw this

00:18:26.620 are we able to share my screen yeah okay so it says this is just sad this is the video that kind

00:18:33.200 gave me i love you i love you i know i love you i love you yeah i can hear it yeah god bless you

00:18:57.760 and look at on its surface that's a heartbreaking video

00:19:03.200 But I guess there's just part of me that I just get this weird feeling when I see this stuff.

00:19:13.100 It just, it seems a little bit performative and almost, here it says, Erica Kirk, I refuse to let the movement Charlie built die.

00:19:22.580 It will only grow stronger, bolder, louder. Join me. Stop to end it.

00:19:28.600 The cries of a widow will echo around the world like a battle cry.

00:19:33.200 And the evildoers who took Charlie's life, they have no idea what they have done.

00:19:37.840 If they thought my husband's mission was powerful before, they have no idea what they have just unleashed.

00:19:43.620 Not across the country, but in me.

00:19:45.620 Charlie will always say never surrender.

00:19:51.300 This is a sad situation.

00:19:54.820 And we're asking for donations?

00:19:57.080 i feel guilty that i'm having this thought because of how sad the situation is but

00:20:10.100 is it okay is this right uh and you know the women when i when i said and by the way i i'm

00:20:20.880 really not passing a judgment um who's to say how you know the right way to react but you know

00:20:29.080 I've seen the same situation in my personal life and people I know

00:20:34.180 where it does women tend to make it a social media campaign so while I'm going to use this

00:20:43.380 as an example today this is not the only example that I can think of and the women they're mad at

00:20:49.040 me. They say, sit this one out. Reclaim says this is worse than posting a GoFundMe. Luffy says she

00:20:56.720 will take a lover to your funeral. Leonardo, and I'm going to send her the link. We'll see if she

00:21:01.020 calls in. She says you're not wrong. I guess this is how House of Cards ended. I've never seen House

00:21:09.100 of Cards, so I don't know. Lior, she's called into the show, says it's too soon. Didn't he have a

00:21:15.560 protege or an apprentice he was training for a reality such as this the reality oh is she liked

00:21:21.800 him because he was famous and he liked her because she was a hot blonde there's no surprise here

00:21:26.860 i didn't say that i'm just reading these um she's braver than me from that one out there um

00:21:35.360 i've been getting them to all the money that has been pledged to his wife and children it feels

00:21:41.880 strange asking the common man for donations i own a business my lineage doesn't have 12 million yet

00:21:47.860 or celebrities sending money i love charlie but come on how can i afford a road trip to go and

00:21:52.960 pay tribute to a deck of millionaires the donations were there before nothing's changed

00:22:02.560 i don't know i i personally i don't have an answer to this i don't have a right or wrong

00:22:09.480 and I'm giving my thoughts

00:22:13.080 yeah so let's see

00:22:17.120 so I really just wanted to

00:22:21.240 have a public discussion, my screen's not up anymore right

00:22:25.220 okay I'm going to send this link to people

00:22:27.200 and we'll see who

00:22:30.720 calls in

00:22:32.880 and then Leonardo

00:22:36.580 Oh, I guess she's on a beach, but if she has time.

00:22:42.720 Do we want to bring Doug MPA up in a second?

00:22:45.940 I'm just going to send this out to people.

00:22:48.860 Okay, so my question is, is there a right and a wrong way to mourn?

00:22:56.040 We don't have to make it specific.

00:22:57.820 I'm not trying to, you know.

00:22:59.580 Is there a right and a wrong way to mourn a tragedy?

00:23:03.960 because I always hear that there is no wrong way to mourn.

00:23:09.420 But I have seen ways that people have mourned

00:23:13.500 that just make me very uncomfortable.

00:23:17.400 I'll give you another example before I accept the callers.

00:23:21.440 Is that, you know, when I was growing up,

00:23:24.500 we did have somebody that passed away.

00:23:29.640 I always have to be broad in these stories so people don't go find them.

00:23:32.900 and i remember the um one of the relatives of this person it was it was her brother

00:23:41.880 that died and it i don't know it just seemed like the funeral and everything it was like she had

00:23:49.700 pictures at the funeral she had she had videos from the funeral there was a post every day

00:23:56.000 it just seemed like the funeral became clout chasing and i i hate saying that but that's

00:24:02.980 just what it seemed like and it just did not seem like a you know a genuine moment of grieving

00:24:09.680 so anyways i'm gonna add in doug mpa and you know he's gonna be the brave and then

00:24:18.860 oh well i think i have an account um okay well we're gonna

00:24:28.600 well i'll let doug talk and then i'll read the chat and then i'll make a new zoom link because

00:24:35.340 i think i can log into mine i'm pretty sure i have premium this is hey doug mpa so i'm good

00:24:43.900 how are you? So what are your thoughts on the topic? Do you think there's a right and wrong way

00:24:50.480 to grieve or to mourn a tragedy? And how do you feel about the text alerts and that sort of thing?

00:24:57.900 Go ahead.

00:25:13.900 people are saying that they can't hear me for some reason can they hear you now can you hear

00:25:25.480 me okay let's see hello this is a new studio um hold on let's see let's see it says muted

00:25:35.460 moment of silence now we can now we can it says now we can so do you want to say say what you

00:25:41.060 said again yeah i think that she's doing too much way too soon um you know who did a really

00:25:49.020 good job of handling the grief was kobe bryant's wife oh she did do a really good job she did a

00:25:54.920 really good job man you know it didn't feel like she was doing too much you know the she let the

00:26:02.280 public kind of support her she let the public kind of let it sink in first and then people got to

00:26:10.660 digested themselves and then she made a statement and stuff although it is kind of weird because

00:26:16.480 isn't she with somebody else and isn't she having somebody else's kid now I think so I mean

00:26:23.100 come on historically women have had to move on I mean that yeah you can't expect her to never

00:26:30.300 have sex you know I mean I know look I understand that um people that's an uncomfortable thing to

00:26:39.500 stay but i i think it's kind of um it's kind of silly to expect a woman to like never move on

00:26:47.560 after yeah yeah i mean i i understand it's uncomfortable but women move on from men that

00:26:52.760 are alive like yeah you know it's gonna be interesting to see who who charlie's wife moves

00:26:58.040 on with but anyway i think that charlie's wife is doing way too much way too soon that filming

00:27:03.220 the body thing come on man

00:27:05.560 cringe

00:27:06.700 cringe

00:27:07.560 okay wait hold on one second can I launch it on here

00:27:11.600 I just logged in

00:27:12.860 okay hold on guys we're gonna play what

00:27:17.380 the commercial

00:27:18.280 what's in it so if you guys want

00:27:21.620 we're having a

00:27:23.440 zoom issue because this meeting is about to end

00:27:25.540 if you guys want

00:27:29.460 we have a divorce

00:27:31.280 documentary we're trying to raise money for

00:27:33.100 there's a go fund me link in the description um i'm gonna play this ad for it while i fix something

00:27:40.320 so give me one second guys going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question

00:27:46.760 do we need men most answered very quickly no because men are useless

00:27:53.640 this headline from the hill it caught my eye most young men are single most young women are not

00:28:01.160 Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.

00:28:05.920 It's a different world now.

00:28:06.960 Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.

00:28:08.980 Nobody needs men!

00:28:10.220 The future is female.

00:28:13.280 Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.

00:28:20.120 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.

00:28:23.060 You've kind of got the tradcon versus red pill thing.

00:28:25.760 This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.

00:28:29.200 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.

00:28:33.440 Marriage is a bond, and it's a sacred bond.

00:28:36.060 It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.

00:28:39.080 Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.

00:28:44.040 Hannah Pearl Davis, or just pearly things.

00:28:47.660 One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.

00:28:51.320 She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.

00:28:54.180 Because if me and you were in a business contract,

00:28:56.160 you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.

00:28:59.200 gee what could go wrong there 74 or something of divorces are initiated by women men have

00:29:05.360 everything to lose primarily their own children men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws

00:29:10.560 i had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity not courts of law because in

00:29:15.840 family court you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse you need no evidence when you

00:29:20.240 guys say get married young a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for and you're

00:29:23.920 not going to be there when their entire life falls apart i interviewed them on the other side

00:29:29.200 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.

00:29:31.900 How much did you spend trying to get him back?

00:29:34.000 The legal fees alone was about $200,000.

00:29:36.360 Before you know it, you're homeless.

00:29:37.800 You're literally just thrown out onto the street.

00:29:39.700 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.

00:29:42.120 Wives are taught to leave their husbands.

00:29:44.040 And then daughters grow up without their fathers.

00:29:46.400 Family is the foundation of society.

00:29:48.120 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.

00:29:51.280 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.

00:29:55.580 Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.

00:29:57.480 we tell women to date as many guys as possible we tell them to put off family into marriage

00:30:01.080 you are allowed to leave your perfect husband you are allowed to end a relationship with a really

00:30:07.160 great boyfriend oh freeze your eggs have an abortion what you're evil i don't think there's

00:30:11.800 anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail right like if you have the

00:30:16.120 mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic naturally the outcome is going to be

00:30:20.600 that it's going to fail anyway it's self-sabotage that's the thing like women are so willing to

00:30:24.760 leave marriages because they're not happy this is not about happiness the most important thing

00:30:29.640 is the children and the problem is we have a modern society where it's me me me my feelings

00:30:35.240 leave when i feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids this myth that we live in an age

00:30:41.480 of male privilege where's my male privilege they think well men have all the rights they have all

00:30:45.240 the power privilege patriarchal system that we have why doesn't our society care about men's

00:30:50.200 rights i have no friends no wife and no social life men are alone in this situation men are

00:30:56.280 homeless men are thinking about eating guns i've seen so many men on on the brink of suicide and

00:31:01.560 they didn't do anything wrong how are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die

00:31:07.320 to defend the country the men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure women

00:31:12.920 are helplessly dependent upon men the so-called deaths of despair from suicide overdose to alcohol

00:31:19.080 three times higher among men than among women culture is telling men you are no good you got

00:31:24.280 to get your act together i think men have failed themselves what kind of a man are you what kind

00:31:28.440 of a woman are you going to attract if men are in trouble so are women everybody knows this is a huge

00:31:34.120 problem but nobody wants to admit it every single woman at the table said they wanted a man 500k

00:31:41.160 am i crazy everything is really set up against you to fail as a man if men make less than women women

00:31:46.360 don't want to marry them so you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men women

00:31:53.320 i don't want to be an independent woman anymore i don't want to be a strong independent woman

00:31:57.480 i'm over it when is it going to be my turn where are we meeting the men that don't stop i can't

00:32:02.200 keep having these same conversations the only simp here is you pearl you sent for me i think

00:32:06.680 i think you sent for women she's a provocateur she says stupid stuff but pearl is right about

00:32:10.920 this it's already happening it's just not out in the open yet now it's just hookup culture

00:32:15.160 is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband

00:32:19.480 the future if everybody follows your path is there is no future we go into population decline and

00:32:25.400 our economy goes into decline civilization will crumble the american story does not end well this

00:32:32.120 is an existential crisis failing young men to bear with us as we figure out a technical issue

00:32:44.840 in the new studio but let me let me pull up the chat on youtube now and i'll i'll see the

00:32:51.080 the judgments coming or the not i mean it is what it is pearl's dropping truth from

00:32:58.760 it's hard but curl because pearl is in the perspective lens of the individual

00:33:03.800 we're in the realm of groupthink it's not clout for charlie's wife it's clout for political vengeance

00:33:14.840 Is it, is it really, I guess, justified?

00:33:32.320 I mean, do you want to be the face of a political cause?

00:33:37.540 Your death?

00:33:39.040 It just seems like that would be like a private moment.

00:33:44.840 tell these 304s what time it is it's just business

00:33:52.240 I really I urge you guys I want you to call in

00:33:57.360 I want you to

00:34:03.760 is there a right or a wrong way to grieve is there ways that are inappropriate what are they

00:34:13.040 I want to hear from the men, and you can be honest here.

00:34:15.420 I'm not going to judge you either way.

00:34:17.480 This is a real safe space.

00:34:19.960 Could you pin it in the chat?

00:34:22.080 And then could you email it to me too so I can send it to the people?

00:34:26.620 Oh, it's the same leading?

00:34:27.940 Okay, it's just.

00:34:29.880 Okay, then let me go back to.

00:34:33.900 Yeah.

00:34:34.300 All right, let's see what we got then.

00:34:39.300 Okay, Doug MPA, are you back?

00:34:41.740 I am here. What's going on?

00:34:43.180 Okay, so I want to first, before we get into Erica Kirk,

00:34:48.240 I just want to say in general,

00:34:50.260 is there a wrong way to mourn or to grieve?

00:34:55.420 And what is it?

00:34:56.600 What are ways that you would say are disrespectful?

00:35:00.980 You have to keep it about the person and not about you.

00:35:05.100 And unfortunately, a lot of wives will make it about themselves

00:35:09.280 instead of their husbands.

00:35:11.140 okay give me an example of how how someone would do that um

00:35:19.620 so we'll just be doing too much at the funeral oh way too much crying oh that's so common oh

00:35:27.780 sorry go ahead there were those big huge sunglasses and like a big hat and some like

00:35:33.380 big ornate dress and then everyone's worried about how she's doing the whole time and making sure

00:35:39.540 she's okay instead of taking the time to remember the husband yeah because it was supposed to be

00:35:45.060 about the husband and now it becomes all about her wow you got it that was great doug i think

00:35:50.740 that's my favorite contribution you've ever made that was a great one you become like um

00:35:57.940 jackie onassis jackie onassis was one of the number one people were you know jfk's assassination

00:36:05.460 was as much about Jackie O as it was about JFK dying.

00:36:11.040 Really?

00:36:11.960 I don't remember.

00:36:12.960 I wasn't, I mean, I wasn't alive.

00:36:14.760 So what did she do?

00:36:16.300 No, she, she just,

00:36:18.080 everyone was talking about how Jackie O was grieving

00:36:21.880 and they were watching her every single move

00:36:24.420 and everything like that.

00:36:25.240 Yeah.

00:36:26.140 And I wasn't, I'm not that old, I wasn't there,

00:36:29.240 but you know, even on shows like The Sopranos,

00:36:33.580 when one of the characters died,

00:36:35.120 they they had her wife pulling a jackie o where she walked in and everyone's then she looks at

00:36:42.440 the body and she faints and everyone she has the glasses and everyone's following her up to the

00:36:46.540 casket and she has the the black dress on and she's all crying and wailing and screaming and

00:36:52.220 stuff yeah wow that's great well i mean that's it's sad but that's yeah and i don't know what

00:37:00.880 it is around death it seems like there's never a conversation on appropriate and inappropriate

00:37:07.720 because if a woman does it it's always deemed as appropriate there's you're not allowed to say

00:37:14.280 that's inappropriate because death is such a sensitive topic i think yeah i agree 100 i agree

00:37:23.480 what's another thing

00:37:26.420 making the funeral about

00:37:28.080 oh and then

00:37:28.900 making an identity off of being

00:37:32.600 someone's widow

00:37:33.440 okay keep going

00:37:36.240 there are women where

00:37:38.180 they

00:37:39.100 like Faith Evans

00:37:41.540 Faith Evans is Notorious B.I.G.'s wife

00:37:44.760 and I mean

00:37:46.180 she had an okay career but she's like

00:37:48.520 B.I.G.'s wife

00:37:50.680 you know they're just people

00:37:52.140 where famous men, their wives,

00:37:59.380 get to ride the wave of them being his widow

00:38:03.400 for the rest of their time on Earth.

00:38:05.420 And it all starts...

00:38:06.840 Go ahead.

00:38:07.180 What do you think about the guy who made a song

00:38:10.240 about Charlie Kirk's death?

00:38:12.300 Did you see it?

00:38:13.780 Uh-uh, I didn't see that.

00:38:14.960 Let me see.

00:38:16.220 We're going to decide if this is appropriate.

00:38:20.820 Did he write it before?

00:38:22.140 or after he died after oh well there's there is one guy who did it before that was um i mean

00:38:30.960 that's why it's kind of weird but i mean that's the question i have is you know there i think

00:38:36.120 they're live streaming the funeral i just start to get a little you know i guess who am i to say

00:38:44.940 but it seems kind of inappropriate when I see stuff like that.

00:38:52.480 I don't know where this was, but there was a guy who wrote a song.

00:38:57.100 I don't know where.

00:38:57.760 He does conservative Christian songs.

00:39:01.540 I can see his face, but I can't.

00:39:03.100 Do you know his name?

00:39:05.520 What's his name?

00:39:06.840 Not you, Doug.

00:39:07.820 Hold on.

00:39:08.280 What?

00:39:10.340 Forgiata.

00:39:10.900 I want to see if this is.

00:39:11.780 our producer

00:39:13.620 it wouldn't surprise me

00:39:16.200 it's the white guy that almost

00:39:18.480 has the cornrows

00:39:19.920 he said there's a million

00:39:22.840 of those

00:39:23.340 okay I'm not gonna find it

00:39:26.860 but I just thought of it now go ahead

00:39:28.400 it says John Rich

00:39:30.020 Sherry carry the flame

00:39:31.760 a Charlie Kirk tribute is that it

00:39:33.780 let me see John Rich

00:39:35.140 carry the flame

00:39:37.580 carry the flame

00:39:40.700 no no that's not it oh we're talking about the the british guy that was making fun of

00:39:52.340 charlie kirk and ended up getting his visa revoked are you talking about him nope i don't i don't

00:39:57.920 think you would know the guy i'm talking about but it's okay it's not a big deal i was just

00:40:01.780 i just saw oh do you know what i think ryan stone might have tweeted about him

00:40:06.620 because ryan stone i mean he kind of had some interesting tweets um hold on let me find it

00:40:14.700 my left okay and i'm going to take the guys on the line in one second guys

00:40:20.460 what oh the right okay

00:40:23.720 people are saying tom mcdonald that's it yeah that's it charlie

00:40:36.500 That's it.

00:40:37.100 Thanks, Chad.

00:40:37.900 Thank you.

00:40:44.060 Okay, we're going to.

00:40:47.060 I don't think this will copyright because this isn't mainstream, but I may be wrong.

00:40:52.180 We're going to, you know what?

00:40:53.140 If we'll trim it after the show, if it gets copyright.

00:40:56.520 Okay.

00:40:57.020 Do I have to share?

00:40:57.980 Can Doug MPA see it or hear it?

00:41:00.980 Okay.

00:41:01.580 Okay.

00:41:02.300 It's a new studio, so we're just working through.

00:41:05.020 Okay.

00:41:05.220 i'm watching on youtube i can watch on youtube with a delay okay so this is this is the song

00:41:11.460 shot down and he was barely 31 another woke coward took a life with a gun he left behind

00:41:28.660 a wife and a daughter and a son all he did was try to speak for all of us

00:41:32.540 and i'm so tired of the hatred and the narratives the patriots ain't dangerous woke people are the

00:41:38.180 terrorists they shot and killed the father sent a message to americans they ain't gonna stop until

00:41:42.640 they bury us dear charlie i don't know if you can see us now but if heaven has a window i sure hope

00:41:48.360 you're looking down because we ain't going quiet we gonna scream your name loud and you're gone

00:41:52.480 but i swear to god that we gonna make you proud okay i don't that's all i'm gonna play just in

00:41:57.700 case we have to trim it but i don't know i really like i mean that's lyrically good

00:42:07.480 but it just seems like conservatives just won't want to cash in on the guy's death

00:42:13.640 they're calling it like kirk bucks on twitter what are you what did you do with your kirk but

00:42:19.560 Okay, why don't we bring up people on the call?

00:42:30.180 Doug MPA, are you there?

00:42:33.140 Yeah, I'm here.

00:42:33.980 Okay, I'm going to bring in...

00:42:38.240 Let's start with Joshua Gray.

00:42:45.760 Hey, Joshua, how's it going?

00:42:47.900 let's start with josh good good thanks turn off the youtube in the background

00:42:55.100 got it okay great um so what are your thoughts on the topic is there a right and a wrong way to

00:42:59.980 mourn and how did you feel about uh the some of the things i brought up during the monologue

00:43:07.740 um well i think a lot of the ai videos i've been seeing are really annoying i just think uh

00:43:14.300 And that's kind of insensitive. But I think, you know, everybody grieves in a different way. And we shouldn't really judge too harshly the way his wife is grieving.

00:43:28.280 and also um i think that the the point that the assassin was trying to accomplish is to shut his

00:43:36.840 speech down and uh i think there's a defiance in the way that people are grieving um his loss and

00:43:48.600 i guess the outgrowth of that defiance is that they want to amplify his movement even more

00:43:54.920 and uh so their grief is centered around not letting his message die and that's sort of

00:44:04.380 thoughts that I had on that great cool so you think that it's in this case it is acceptable

00:44:13.560 because he cared so much about his movement and we really shouldn't judge well I think everybody

00:44:21.480 grieves differently and it is an awkward way to grieve for sure i'm not gonna those thoughts that

00:44:28.120 you expressed have popped into my mind as well um so it's um i don't think your thoughts are

00:44:37.080 unfounded but when you look at what the assassin was trying to do i think that's the way you can

00:44:45.900 maybe get into their head a little bit um that they have this real defiance about them like

00:44:53.120 they're angry that his speech was taken down and then Charlie's entire life since he was like what

00:44:59.440 18 years old was about this movement that this speech this turning point USA yeah that's to be

00:45:07.060 honest that's why I I also had that thought too where you're thinking well his whole life was

00:45:13.180 online so it does it kind of but what about in general have you ever seen somebody that you knew

00:45:19.520 personally where you thought that the way they were grieving was a little bit weird odd or have

00:45:24.960 you never had thoughts like that i haven't had a lot of people pass away in my orbit so i haven't

00:45:31.900 seen a lot of grief um and anybody that's passed away in in my orbit has um it was expected they

00:45:40.100 were older or they were sick or there was no sudden i mean i don't know what i would do like

00:45:46.100 if um one of my children were to die or um like one of my good friends were to die that i'm close

00:45:52.580 to i'm not i'm not sure that um i even know what i would do how i would react and i think

00:46:03.140 in situations where it's sprung on you um out of the blue everybody everybody acts differently

00:46:12.700 cool great well thanks so much i appreciate the contribution so call it any time okay

00:46:19.300 sure thank you enjoyed it

00:46:22.420 oh we're gonna i don't know if i told you this but um it's kind of hard for me to relate on

00:46:28.960 the subject because i've never been to a funeral before what yeah yep never been

00:46:35.280 you're you're older than you should wow that's crazy yeah i've never been to a funeral before

00:46:43.800 your grandparents didn't die so my parents had beef both my parents had beef with their parents

00:46:50.840 and didn't go to their funeral oh wow yeah wow yep so never been to a funeral oh yeah i mean i went

00:47:02.440 i think i've been to less than 10 more than four somewhere in there okay yeah um okay let's see

00:47:12.680 everyone says you're fortunate yeah i know guys i'm very fortunate don't think that i don't know

00:47:20.120 I don't know how fortunate I am.

00:47:29.960 Hey, Corey, how's it going?

00:47:31.620 Make sure that YouTube isn't playing in the background,

00:47:33.980 and then unmute when you get a chance.

00:47:45.120 You got to figure out how to unmute.

00:47:48.360 I'll give you a few more seconds to figure it out.

00:47:54.780 All right.

00:47:55.560 I'm going to let you figure that out.

00:47:59.300 Let me see.

00:48:01.620 Put in the waiting room.

00:48:03.020 Okay.

00:48:03.360 We're going to try someone else.

00:48:04.640 So, guys, make sure that you unmute.

00:48:08.440 Turn the YouTube off in the background.

00:48:10.920 And then, all right, Nick B., welcome to the show.

00:48:18.360 can you hear me uh nycbi yeah i might have to update my name oh that's that's good that's great

00:48:28.780 we can hear you good um so what are your thoughts on the topic do you think there's a right or wrong

00:48:33.540 way to mourn and how did you feel about the marketing campaign after charlie kirk's death

00:48:40.220 i think it's different like i the way i look at it is you have rich people and you have poor people

00:48:49.060 and they both mourn very differently rich people it's all about show it's about presentation

00:48:55.860 it's about putting on the most elaborate thing you can put on it is a circus it is a play it is

00:49:03.460 meant to be this way it always was it always will be that's just how it is when you're on center

00:49:08.860 stage now then you have four people they just want to be alone with their loved one they want that

00:49:16.380 loved one all to themselves they don't want anyone else around they just want to grieve and

00:49:22.460 and it's not public it's very different but you know i respect both positions i respect that

00:49:31.020 that's just how it is have you ever seen somebody mourning or grieving and you just thought that's

00:49:38.380 not right or that's wrong like to the point where maybe you weren't offended but you really thought

00:49:44.460 that wasn't the right way to do it or have you always been indifferent like you seem to be

00:49:49.580 or i guess you respect both go ahead i think people can feel what's really going on people

00:49:59.580 know when somebody's putting on a show because you can feel it you know when they're being sincere

00:50:05.580 because you can feel it now i get that maybe narcissists or psychopaths might not have that

00:50:12.060 ability but you know anyone who can relate to being maybe an empath or just being a sensitive

00:50:18.060 person i think they're going to pick up on the heart behind what's happening

00:50:24.780 yeah um and did you think that the turning point what they're doing with it after did you feel like

00:50:31.740 it was genuine or did it seem performative to you listen when it's rich people make a show if you're

00:50:37.980 gonna make a show make a show blow it out of proportion get ridiculous with it like i mean

00:50:44.220 if you're gonna bring in comedy bring in comedy if you're gonna bring in tears bring in tears

00:50:48.940 if you're gonna bring the spotlight on yourself and just flash that spotlight everywhere go for

00:50:53.660 it let's make it exactly what it is supposed to be and why even play around with anything else

00:50:59.820 either this is going to be a poor funeral where it's the opposite or it's going to be a rich

00:51:04.220 funeral make it rich make it the fourth of july make it the uh oh i don't know um some big event

00:51:11.420 you know the christmas tree lighting make it new year's just you know make that make it pop yeah

00:51:18.860 cool well great contribution i never thought about rich versus poor people i thought i was

00:51:24.220 thinking men versus women i didn't think rich versus poor so great that was a great point

00:51:28.260 Thanks for calling in.

00:51:30.120 You betcha.

00:51:37.760 Okay, we're going to get an X.

00:51:45.100 Oh, no, I accidentally almost...

00:51:47.100 Okay.

00:51:51.260 Okay, let's do divinity.

00:51:58.140 divinity welcome to the show please make sure the youtube is off in the background

00:52:04.660 so what are your thoughts is there a right or wrong way to grieve and or mourn and what

00:52:12.380 were your thoughts on the marketing campaign okay hi pearl and hi everyone um if i was to say

00:52:21.280 if there was a right or wrong way to mourn i would first off say arguing over somebody's will

00:52:28.680 is definitely not a good way to mourn um that was a good one i love that i love it when callers so

00:52:39.860 far doug mpa said something i wouldn't have thought of three callers today said something

00:52:45.920 you guys are impressing me go ahead keep going didn't mean to cut you off you're cooking i mean

00:52:50.420 It's happening in my personal life. So this is the script of my life. So, you know, I just being being a little personal here. But I'm glad you guys like it. And then as far as the whole campaign goes, I mean, I think that there was a wax body in that casket. Like, who knows if that was even really him or not.

00:53:10.960 but um i think that it's kind of disturbing i wouldn't want my body to be put on social media

00:53:20.460 in an open casket so let's just say like that yeah so wait tell me what's happening in your

00:53:26.440 personal life you know give me the tea what are they arguing over oh they're arguing over my

00:53:32.480 grandma's will right now who's arguing this the kids my mom oh okay and who is she arguing with

00:53:40.200 her brother pretty yeah you nailed it yeah yeah and what's the disagreement was there discrepancies

00:53:48.280 in the will did she not have one does someone want more someone wants more my mom wants more

00:53:54.940 because she's a greedy little bitch and she wants me to sign over for her but she won't even offer

00:54:00.820 me more like what a scam how do you get more because i thought it's pretty cut and dry don't

00:54:07.340 doesn't the person decide who gets what before they die exactly but she's trying to fight it

00:54:12.880 so why would you fight someone's will after they're already dead she's already dead so just

00:54:16.700 let it be oh yeah that's a terrible way to mourn great contribution i'm sorry that's happening to

00:54:22.480 you but that that is i've heard that before though i've heard that before so thanks for calling in

00:54:28.300 honestly love the show love you a lot keep doing what you're doing pearl you're great

00:54:32.860 thanks for calling in

00:54:34.460 bye

00:54:35.840 that was such a good one

00:54:39.240 I love it when people say things I never would have

00:54:41.480 thought of even though that one

00:54:43.580 I feel like I should have thought of

00:54:45.360 because I know

00:54:47.080 I've heard of that happening before

00:54:49.580 hey Matt make sure you mute the YouTube in the background

00:55:00.080 yeah

00:55:01.360 it's it's muted how's it going good oh matt see i'm bad with i'm bad with names but when i see

00:55:08.820 the faces i know who it is so hey for the beard yeah so what are your thoughts on the topic is

00:55:14.680 there right or wrong way to mourn and um and what did you think about the marketing campaign

00:55:22.120 okay so there's two different ways of looking at this there's in general and then there's this

00:55:27.660 situation specifically yeah so let's do in general first and then the situation in general no there's

00:55:34.360 no right or wrong way to mourn i'm just gonna say if i was the guy being carried by six all right

00:55:39.880 it ain't gonna matter to me because i'm dead okay i'm not i say i'm not i'm how can i right so if i

00:55:49.200 had a wife and kids and she was made it all about her well fine you know you might as well you know

00:55:57.440 what happens is is she's lacked she lacks connection right so she's got to build a new

00:56:03.020 one and if you've got access to the resource to make it all about her well might as well use it

00:56:09.100 you know maybe you know maybe you might be able to recover quicker who knows right maybe you're

00:56:14.940 lucky you have that resource and maybe you don't like other people do might as well use it but in

00:56:20.640 this particular situation like you said like it seems staged kind of thing i don't think it's

00:56:27.160 wrong see i've had ever since the great c charlene one niner scam that took the world

00:56:33.720 and i really stand by that i start asking questions when information comes out of nowhere

00:56:40.320 and it's suddenly everywhere i started asking questions like i've never even heard of this guy

00:56:46.080 until we heard of the great death and then all i see is politicians trying to capitalize on it

00:56:52.180 take more from us use it throw in more restrictions and throw in more gun control

00:56:58.960 and that's all i see so for a long time i've just turned it off so when i see this particular

00:57:05.940 situation i see a lot of questions about its validity you know like maybe maybe this guy's

00:57:16.740 got a big riding i don't know i i'm not in the u.s but in canada here i've never heard of this guy

00:57:21.600 oh he is huge here he is i know he is and like and that's tragic and i'm not saying i'm going

00:57:28.340 to put this guy down or he didn't have any merit or he didn't have you know there there wasn't a

00:57:32.380 cause that he was fighting for but it it seems off to me like it seems like it's a

00:57:42.300 like three-letter agencies are involved in you know um pushing an agenda forward

00:57:48.700 and it's and they use and they're just using people's feelings and emotions to push it forward

00:57:55.260 and that's where this particular situation seems wrong these are like it's fun so go ahead i think

00:58:01.640 this is my best round of callers that's a really good point because it's like people are really

00:58:06.440 upset about it and so they're using people being upset to drain you of your money resources time

00:58:12.120 and attention essentially exactly legislation and that's that's what i see this as a nice

00:58:18.440 i see them and versus us and that's and people fighting and they're not looking at the people

00:58:24.620 who are really doing the damage in the background that you're not seeing and that's that's what i

00:58:29.520 seat yeah wow great callers yeah i would not have thought of that either so thanks for calling in

00:58:36.260 matt anytime always good to see you buddy yeah wow we have just had good point after good point

00:58:44.160 i usually have somebody waste my time and this string what like this has just been like a string

00:58:51.740 of like solid point solid point who's next uh cory don't let me down cory you're next

00:59:01.820 make sure your youtube is not playing in the background um and then oh let's see if you

00:59:08.220 figured out how to unmute you gotta unmute you're still muted buddy

00:59:14.620 you're still muted

00:59:19.600 you're putting in the chat

00:59:22.160 I'm unmuted

00:59:23.000 I'm unmuted

00:59:23.800 yeah I'm sorry Corey

00:59:25.960 yeah you're about

00:59:27.700 um

00:59:30.140 oh I did I meant to put him in the waiting room

00:59:32.900 if you're watching Corey you can't

00:59:34.980 re-enter but you're in the back of the line

00:59:36.820 you gotta figure out your tack

00:59:38.120 alright we got delusional

00:59:40.440 um

00:59:41.060 delusional women

00:59:43.800 is the handle make sure the YouTube is not playing in the background and yeah are you there

00:59:56.300 can you hear me can you hear me I can hear you so do you think there is a right do you think

01:00:04.040 there's a right and a wrong way to mourn and what are your thoughts on the marketing campaign

01:00:08.940 hey how's it going pearl um you know i think people are mourning differently too you know we're

01:00:18.860 we're looking at um things from a different perspective now you know these

01:00:26.300 people that have been on social media their whole life um you know comparing

01:00:35.340 Kirk's wife to Jackie Onassis is kind of a long stretch, but I think, you know, these people

01:00:46.500 seek attention, right? So we're in this dystopian time where we're looking at things and it's kind

01:00:58.940 unbelievable to see from um a common sense point of view or you know we're looking at people that

01:01:08.140 a lot of people are feeling you know relating are relating to but

01:01:14.540 the average person can't really relate to charlie kirk you know so it's um some delusion there i

01:01:22.300 I think, sure.

01:01:26.720 No, keep going, keep going.

01:01:28.800 Yeah, and the campaign, you know,

01:01:30.580 just obviously it's very thought out, right?

01:01:34.540 There's a woman grieving

01:01:37.100 and there's a person with the camera.

01:01:38.740 It's very performative and calculated, you know?

01:01:47.420 I don't really know how to take it.

01:01:49.920 know everybody does you know it's cliche but everybody does grieve differently and

01:01:55.600 when there's a spotlight around and cameras and um followers and i i think people

01:02:06.480 can't really be genuine you know and and someone that has lived in the shadows of a celebrity

01:02:14.400 husband probably is very hard to relate to for the average person i would imagine

01:02:21.200 so yeah why do i feel so weird so yeah um i agree i i agree thank you for calling in

01:02:31.200 call in any time okay hey yeah we'll see you next time bye

01:02:37.920 okay so next we got hannibal

01:02:44.400 all right hannibal you know you don't have to do all that you could just turn the camera off

01:02:52.920 yeah well you said you wanted a camera on so here we are well i mean i do give preference but it

01:02:59.540 kind of defeats the purpose when you have a ski mask on there you go so sorry men find a work

01:03:08.980 around for everything you guys are so funny okay you know it so there's a psychological mechanism

01:03:16.320 inside everybody that when we lose control over a situation we try to do all that we can to

01:03:23.640 regain control over a situation so to some people that might be in charlie's case right he had this

01:03:32.960 whole like mission statement and everything so to regain control over a situation of trying to

01:03:38.220 figure out that okay he's gone um that would be continuing his mission to someone else that might

01:03:45.540 just be going out and just hiking in the woods for three days because they're essentially doing

01:03:52.680 the same thing you're getting control of the situation and that you're alone he's gone type

01:03:57.360 of thing if and so whatever it is there's it's just to a certain extent it's just grasping at

01:04:03.780 straws so okay so you don't find it performative but you think it's just the way that they're

01:04:10.160 trying to regain control of the situation by continuing his mission because they're losing

01:04:14.880 control by losing the guy in charge maybe not even regain control over these situations but

01:04:20.340 regain control over their perception of the situation yeah that's my guess yeah no that's

01:04:27.520 a really good point of view um do you have anything else you want to add on it that's

01:04:31.780 I appreciate the differing point of view, so I think it's really good.

01:04:36.300 That's what I got.

01:04:37.260 All right, cool.

01:04:38.900 I can't.

01:04:40.400 The ski mask is cracking me up.

01:04:42.560 I won't lie.

01:04:44.180 You got to do what you got to do.

01:04:45.780 All right, thanks.

01:04:47.700 Hilarious.

01:04:50.140 He's like, I will get to the front of the line.

01:04:52.640 Camera off.

01:04:56.220 Although in this way, I can't see, so I actually don't know.

01:04:59.700 but we had to go back to with the new set to zoom uh there will be times when we use stream yards

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01:06:56.520 out all right jeff i need you to turn off the youtube in the background and how's it going so

01:07:06.260 today we're talking about is there a right or wrong way to grieve and what did you think of

01:07:11.300 the marketing campaign after charlie kirk's death uh yeah so um i have a background as a chaplain

01:07:17.760 And I'm a professional at helping people grieve.

01:07:21.920 So we have had the best calls today.

01:07:23.900 I think these are the best calls I've ever had.

01:07:25.780 Go ahead. Go ahead.

01:07:26.560 I was like, what a perfect person to call in.

01:07:29.380 Go ahead.

01:07:30.480 So in terms of wrong, it's pretty hard to achieve a wrong state.

01:07:35.940 But I would say that the wrong state is where it comes into conflict with other people's ability to grieve as as they see fit.

01:07:45.100 So it's basically kind of like a, it's a gray barrier, I guess.

01:07:51.940 So it really depends on the background of people you're dealing with.

01:07:56.700 But in terms of like, kind of like out there things, there in terms, like, if you look

01:08:02.460 across the world and like how people grieve, there's all kinds of ways that that goes down.

01:08:09.300 And a lot of it would be cringe to Western audiences.

01:08:15.820 So there's still people that are like, you know, like the Mayans, for example, will dig up their family's skulls and have meals with them once a year, things like that.

01:08:26.320 In terms of what we saw with Charlie and the viewing of the body, the significance of viewing a body in a funeral is that it gives you the experience that their death is a reality.

01:08:46.640 It takes people a while to really integrate the death of someone.

01:08:52.180 And Charlie, of course, was a public figure.

01:08:54.980 So this grieving process is a public process.

01:08:59.540 So I do agree with it.

01:09:02.200 I'm glad she didn't show his face.

01:09:06.240 I think the hands were okay.

01:09:08.920 So have you ever seen anything in your line of work where you thought maybe it wasn't okay,

01:09:16.500 but you maybe thought it was too attention-seeking or too, like, was there ever a time where you

01:09:21.640 worked at a funeral and you just thought it kind of was like a little bit too far for you?

01:09:31.100 Well, I think the last funeral I was at was for a Christian friend, a college friend, and

01:09:39.880 one of the people got up and and just used the moment to preach kind of fire and brimstone get

01:09:47.720 your life right and you know get with god and it was basically a questionable relation to anything

01:09:55.720 uh about the deceased so it's kind of like very much a you know an ad post for for jesus

01:10:03.520 so yeah i was a bit cringe on that you know let it slide i have an uncle who would do that

01:10:11.200 yeah but but yeah it's the thing because it's such a sensitive time no one's gonna

01:10:15.440 no one's gonna say anything yeah what what are the biggest differences you've seen

01:10:22.260 uh in the way that men grieve and their spouse dying and the way that women grieve when their

01:10:30.160 props is dying or has died what's the difference um if men well when if and when men break they

01:10:45.040 break a lot harder than women do like women just kind of like they start a sob and it kind of like

01:10:52.600 it's kind of like a like a soft wave and men it's like cataclysm when they

01:10:57.560 when they got to stop and like like the whole world stops for them basically

01:11:02.300 so it's kind of i don't know i'd say men are more dramatic sometimes when they're

01:11:07.900 when they're really truly emotionally grieving okay cool great god oh yeah i did have one more

01:11:18.340 thing uh well so what we all witnessed um essentially i'm worried that uh that what we

01:11:28.180 had was a mass trauma event because people all witnessed what happened to charlie and

01:11:36.660 my concern is that we're going to have a mass uh psychological uh traumatic event or

01:11:45.540 development of acute and long-term traumas for the people who witnessed that both there and even

01:11:56.500 just through media because so many people interacted with this content and you know

01:12:03.860 you make some kind of a connection there so when you have this visceral experience of someone dying

01:12:11.300 that's very easily going to create a significant amount of people who are

01:12:20.100 going to have this trauma that's going to endure. And so, yeah, it's going to be a real issue.

01:12:29.860 How do you think that will play out? So people have this trauma, but what will happen?

01:12:35.700 um well people i mean just i mean as we've already noticed like people are more volatile

01:12:47.140 right now so they're more uh they're more likely to react or act out um as a result of this oh

01:12:58.020 okay so you're saying they'll be like they might do crazy things basically in retaliation

01:13:04.420 Yeah, and for the people who experience what's called like acute trauma, they might start to develop symptoms that become intrusive.

01:13:20.460 Like basically they begin to limit your ability to function because you're, um, you'll find yourself caught in a state of dissociation where you're trying to, where you're basically like in a caught state of freezing.

01:13:35.700 and so that freezing like it what happens like if like say between so ptsd takes like at least

01:13:46.280 six months like it takes between three to six months to develop in a permanent way

01:13:50.840 um but in that first three months it's uh in it's more of acute but what's happening is that

01:13:59.580 that there's kind of a feedback loop where like your reptilian brain is hyperactive. And so it's

01:14:06.920 it's recognizing stress as trauma or stressors as like life-threatening or potentially life-threatening.

01:14:15.640 So it's like a misreading or mischaracterization of stressors as life-threatening

01:14:24.380 uh issues so that's what i mean like people are potentially going to be more volatile

01:14:30.500 wow good point um yeah i never really thought of that thanks for calling in yeah my pleasure um i

01:14:39.700 yeah i don't mean to plug myself but i i will be making content for it uh to address the to address

01:14:47.960 the drama okay cool uh what's your channel uh it's buddhist priest buddhist priest all right

01:14:54.120 thank you oh actually a question what is a buddhist priest um we're gonna do d williams

01:15:11.720 d williams make sure the youtube isn't playing in the background

01:15:14.520 um so what are your thoughts on the topic is there a right or wrong way to grieve and

01:15:20.600 what did you think of the marketing campaign

01:15:22.440 we got no can you hear me

01:15:30.840 okay we're going back in the waiting room we're gonna have cory next

01:15:36.340 hey cory hello hey so can you hear me there he is there you go hey we in there yeah so what do

01:15:48.580 you think of the topic is there a right and a wrong way to grieve and what did you think of

01:15:52.360 the marketing campaign um so the grieving situation is a little strange for me i will

01:15:59.920 say when i first seen that video and with her like kissing the hands i thought that was strange

01:16:06.100 um now I have seen strange behavior at funerals before um I've seen my little sister uh it was

01:16:14.120 it was my mom who passed away but she was like she showed up in a veil she showed up in a veil

01:16:21.700 to the funeral and I just made it a lot more dramatic than any of her other children which

01:16:30.240 you know i am one of um and so i have seen people have just kind of bizarre reactions that are

01:16:38.060 not exactly like they're you know obviously my little sister didn't have a campaign

01:16:45.740 going on for my mother it was just this natural reaction she had to it and it was bizarre to me

01:16:53.740 it actually frustrated me um so when i think about that i do look at her situation and understand

01:17:02.260 that like she is as you know if the most traumatized out of this out of anyone um so

01:17:09.480 maybe that's why it seems a little weird but then there's also the dynamic that she is

01:17:17.640 trying to help step into the role that he played in turning point and i wonder if she is

01:17:25.020 you know if there is some political motivation there obviously it's going to have some political

01:17:30.380 effect um so it's it's awkward it's hard there's a lot of factors that apply to why anything's the

01:17:38.180 way it is so it's hard to put your finger on one reason why that was the way it was um i don't

01:17:46.020 think that it for the most part was uh completely politically motivated there's just so much trauma

01:17:53.760 involved in what she's going through right now that I think um it's that's the biggest factor

01:18:00.120 that applies to why she's moving in any sort of way so you think the biggest she's really

01:18:06.520 traumatized so she's kind of doing this whole campaign as a way to cope well when you call it

01:18:13.320 campaign is that like the words you're putting on it or is that the words they're putting on it

01:18:18.120 well it's a it's a market like i mean when you send emails and texts for donations over a death

01:18:24.200 it's a marketing campaign okay yeah so like i would just say it's a marketing campaign

01:18:30.200 well have you seen the people who are trying to um it's pretty deep conspiracy stuff but i've seen

01:18:37.720 people trying to paint uh maybe there's some sort of prophecy involved in this where apparently

01:18:44.120 like a a woman it takes takes the reins on like uh what's the words for it it's um

01:18:55.320 like she will lead the world out of this out of these evil ways um some people i've heard people

01:19:02.280 make the relation there that like she could be the the woman of this like and i've never even

01:19:09.080 heard of the prophecy or whatever this thing they were referring i mean i just women in charge of

01:19:14.200 things just always leads to destruction so if she is if she's in charge of it which i don't know it

01:19:20.040 could just be like um well not necessarily in charge but like lead the way as far as the face

01:19:25.480 of it because of the movement because you know somebody's looking at it from that that that

01:19:31.240 dynamic probably not her at this moment but they would love for her to ride this wave and i mean

01:19:38.120 she could be the public person but running an organization that i mean that's difficult and

01:19:44.760 pretty much impossible for women to do big organizations like that i mean usually if they

01:19:50.440 do it there's a man doing the work uh yeah um i mean i'm i'm not i'm not here to to to really

01:20:00.440 draw that line in the sand um because i don't i don't i don't really associate to like that you

01:20:06.760 know i'm a woman can't get the job done i i don't yeah i don't especially feel that way that a woman

01:20:12.920 couldn't get the job done i think as long as your heart's in the right place that that you can get

01:20:17.960 the job done um anybody can and so i don't even they are i don't think most men can i mean that

01:20:25.080 i mean that's a tough job do you know what i'm saying like like that's that's my my point is

01:20:29.480 she's not like qualified anyway she's a mom which is which is cool but like that's very different

01:20:36.200 from running like an organization with hundreds of people yeah and honestly the critical period

01:20:42.760 is going to be the next eight to ten months yeah if she steps out ahead of this and takes his place

01:20:48.120 you're gonna find out in eight to ten months like she's effective i don't know i saw a lot

01:20:52.280 lot of people criticizing that i think ben shapiro might take over um but i just thought he might be

01:20:58.440 he's probably one of the only few that are qualified that can do it i mean who who can run

01:21:05.300 a company that big a media company there's not many like heads really well i think it could be

01:21:12.180 a group effort because one of the crazy things about this is that we all could not get away from

01:21:19.440 witnessing that murder um i did not intentionally watch that but i i i went on x and then before you

01:21:27.620 can even hit play the video is already playing for you you see it happen so there's you know

01:21:32.660 probably 85 percent of the people on social media witness that and i mean that's millions of people

01:21:39.380 we've never seen anything like this in our lives and so i think the wave that can come from this is

01:21:44.320 is hopefully what I'm hopeful for is a team effort where if a Ben Shapiro wants to show up

01:21:50.900 and and and assist in this goal of realizing what is righteous and and and and putting just a good

01:22:00.760 foot out and and everybody and then we'll pick up where he leaves off and then you know who knows

01:22:06.580 this is the first time I've ever hopped on a live stream by any means and part of the reason why I'm

01:22:13.260 here is because of charlie's passing and who knows where this might lead me maybe sooner or later i

01:22:19.420 buy a pop-up tent and i'm pulling up you know um this has struck a nerve with a lot of people and

01:22:25.520 i'm hoping that it can just yeah you know take off and go the right direction i'd let that hope die

01:22:31.100 unfortunately um you let that hope die hell yeah why say what do you mean because i because i think

01:22:39.080 it's mean to sell hope and i don't foresee this changing much i mean i've just you have to

01:22:44.640 understand i live in the media cycle so when kevin samuels died a lot of people said things would

01:22:49.480 change and this would you know well with that with that i mean obviously if everybody felt the way

01:22:56.920 you felt then nothing would change but if everybody feels the way i feel then a lot would

01:23:01.880 change if everybody in the world you can feel how you want to feel but how do your feelings turn

01:23:08.620 like feelings don't always turn turn into tangible actions especially in a world where

01:23:14.600 people consider you oh oh yeah we're gonna fight and by fighting they mean i'm gonna post on tiktok

01:23:20.460 and instagram understand what i'm saying right so so you can feel what you want but how are your

01:23:25.640 feelings going to turn into tangible outcomes and honestly a lot of things that people feel

01:23:30.340 i'm a i'm a big believer that belief is the number one reason why anything ends up the way it ends up

01:23:37.060 If you believe that the reason why you're not feeling well is because you drink too much coffee and you continue to drink more coffee, then you're going to not feel well.

01:23:48.380 If you believe that.

01:23:49.220 How old are you?

01:23:52.000 I'm 30.

01:23:54.720 So if you believe, like belief is huge.

01:23:57.280 So if everybody in the world right here in this moment believed that their actions in the next 10 minutes would change the world for the better, I think that they would go do a lot in those 10 minutes.

01:24:09.480 Yeah, the challenge is I've just interviewed a lot of people that thought they could change the world, and they're the ones.

01:24:15.700 Well, it's not going to happen quickly.

01:24:17.300 They're the ones.

01:24:18.060 Hold on.

01:24:19.360 They're the ones that go crazy, unfortunately.

01:24:23.440 I'm sorry.

01:24:25.060 I'm sorry.

01:24:25.300 No, go ahead.

01:24:26.260 there's the human factor in it okay first off most people are lazy second off most people have

01:24:33.660 a short attention span third most people have a comfort and convenience level okay if it gets

01:24:40.440 uncomfortable they're not going to do it so you have to get how many people are going to get past

01:24:45.500 those three rungs what percentage of people i'd say less than 10 i'd say less than five percent

01:24:54.300 and and out of them which of those will have the power to do it and you know what i mean like

01:25:00.320 i mean i have a platform and i feel as though i have very little power to change things

01:25:09.400 and i would say i have more influence than most so imagine if you're just a normal guy

01:25:16.000 working a normal job i'm like what yeah good luck yeah and that's not saying that we don't

01:25:23.500 want things to change but

01:25:25.560 Pearl always says

01:25:26.840 hope is not a strategy

01:25:28.740 and so

01:25:31.340 if things change

01:25:33.500 you welcome it but just don't be disappointed

01:25:35.520 if it doesn't I like to

01:25:37.440 manage expectations because the

01:25:39.500 thing is they say I'm a

01:25:41.480 doomer but I'm like we just got to manage

01:25:43.460 our expectations I would not

01:25:45.660 want you to get your hopes up

01:25:47.360 alright let me

01:25:49.280 thanks for calling Corey

01:25:51.180 alright so we're going to move on

01:25:53.480 the next guy um we got a lot of callers today uh let's do john jay

01:26:05.400 uh john jay make sure the youtube's off in the background thanks for calling in

01:26:11.640 so what are your thoughts on is there a right or wrong way to mourn and what did you think

01:26:17.800 of the marketing campaign for charlie kirk after his death well everybody should mourn

01:26:25.400 how they feel is appropriate now because charlie was such a public figure

01:26:30.520 uh i could see why erica is doing what she's doing um to promote um turning point and the company

01:26:39.480 um but um i'm torn between what's appropriate and what needs to be done um yesterday i uh i put it

01:26:51.720 in your i put a super chat in on the on the uh on your uh on your chat i did a 17 minute video

01:26:59.160 um on uh what uh what needs to be done moving forward from here and um there's five points

01:27:06.920 that has to do with pulling out the guns and start shooting oh really give me um give me

01:27:13.720 two things that need to be done well i think the first thing that needs to be done is the these uh

01:27:19.960 these uh these companies these uh these old legacy companies if they if they start labeling this is

01:27:29.080 the same as calling fire in a theater if you start falsely labeling people as fascists and nazis

01:27:39.400 your fcc license gets pulled no ifs ands or buts that's the first thing need to be done we need to

01:27:46.040 put these um now chris rock said this is this is really what this is really why this happened

01:27:52.360 He really lays out that the old legacy media, full leftist, full of Marxist, they hate anything conservative.

01:28:02.060 They've been doing this for three generations.

01:28:04.860 And this has got to come to an end.

01:28:07.940 And the only way you control this is the government comes in, is if you falsely label and spread propaganda, your license is pulled.

01:28:17.000 It's gone.

01:28:17.580 You get fines first. You maybe find a fat fine. And then the next level is to pull FCC license and then take your network right off the airwaves. You're no longer allowed to broadcast.

01:28:29.560 and then um and then the next one as far as these radical groups uh is you have to

01:28:39.960 cut off the funding via bank seizures and then these guys that are actually funding these these

01:28:48.240 radical groups they need to be held accountable they need to be charged with racketeering and

01:28:53.940 so this is conspiracy this is the only way you're going to control this nonsense you know this

01:28:59.120 stuff's been going on since the late 50s, early 60s. And it really ramped up after Jack Kennedy

01:29:06.040 was killed in Dallas. And I don't see a peaceful solution, but there's five steps barring outright

01:29:17.880 violence to do what it takes to bring in these Marxists and bring in these hardcore leftists

01:29:26.360 and rein them in because these these inflammatory labels well they keep doing it they're just going

01:29:33.680 to get that people are just going to people are just going to take the law on their own hands

01:29:37.240 and i'll go along with your point on your first point um mainstream media is dying

01:29:42.960 it's from the decline forever well except fox news and fox news is actually thriving

01:29:48.480 even after that lawsuit right um the major left-wing outlets they're they're they're

01:29:56.700 ramping everything up to be able to get the viewers and to be able to stay on the air so

01:30:04.120 they're going to get worse and worse because that's the only way that their um medium can

01:30:08.880 stay alive that's why you've seen the the rhetoric amp up the last five years because they're

01:30:13.720 literally on their last leg uh msnbc literally got sold off i think they're ms now or something

01:30:19.600 like that yeah so i i i just think um the fcc under trump needs to start pulling fcc uh broadcasting

01:30:28.480 alliances yeah do you foresee that's what it's going to come down do you foresee that happening

01:30:33.720 i do yeah yeah we're not going to tolerate this you know we haven't had a major assassination

01:30:40.320 since martin in this country martin was the last one they almost got reagan in 81 and thank god

01:30:48.840 they didn't um but uh i i i see uh i see a very uh a very strong response uh to this nonsense

01:31:00.220 this labeling has got to stop yeah it's got to stop and it's got to stop now where can they watch

01:31:05.640 your video shout why don't you shout it out it's on roll man life it's on uh it'll be on ig it'll

01:31:12.940 be on youtube and i got it on rumble cool thanks for thanks for calling in thanks pearl i appreciate

01:31:20.120 it thanks this is the best callers that we have had everyone nice flag you had yeah everyone's

01:31:29.820 right to the point everybody you guys you guys are great this is amazing um and what i love is

01:31:37.400 even when people disagree it's just you know it's because this isn't meant to be this one

01:31:43.620 there are conversations that are meant to be more debate like but this is just to give your thoughts

01:31:48.940 uh d williams uh feel free to unmute but make sure youtube is not playing in the background

01:31:55.380 what are your thoughts on the topic

01:31:57.780 is there a right or a wrong way to grieve

01:31:59.860 and what did you think of the marketing campaign

01:32:01.980 alright we got

01:32:07.700 10, 9, 8

01:32:09.760 7, 6, 5

01:32:12.160 4, 3, 2

01:32:13.260 oh there he made it

01:32:14.720 can you hear me?

01:32:17.600 I can hear ya

01:32:18.700 we can hear you buddy

01:32:23.940 i'm sorry i keep missing the opportunity i don't know if you all can hear me

01:32:30.260 you're still here hello d williams are there turn off the youtube in the background please

01:32:37.160 i removed him look at you guys gotta get your look guys in the most respectful way possible i

01:32:45.600 just i i can't do this 10 second audio delay and i'm gonna have to work with zoom for the time

01:32:52.740 being you guys got to figure out the zoom um i look at when i i called into a lot of shows and

01:32:59.560 i figured out the zoom so it's nothing nothing against you guys i understand technology is hard

01:33:05.900 but zoom is not the hardest thing in the world um okay we're gonna do anthony is that who we

01:33:13.120 just said or no is that i can't remember no not anthony okay anthony's anthony's iphone are you

01:33:20.640 there yeah can you hear me see he got it all right anthony welcome welcome to the show um

01:33:29.040 so do you think there's a right or wrong way to mourn and what did you think of the marketing

01:33:33.560 campaign after charlie kirk's death um no there's not a right or wrong way to do it but um you know

01:33:41.580 i was looking forward to the video just to see what she had to say i didn't know much about her

01:33:46.000 really charlie too much either but now all of a sudden i'm captivated and then uh she started

01:33:50.960 talking and then i was kind of like weirded out a little bit then i got through more of the speech

01:33:57.040 and to be honest with you i just had to turn it off because it did seem like a little forced

01:34:01.200 now the trouble is is like she has so many people around her telling her like you got to do this

01:34:05.680 you got to do that and now she's under extreme pressure to like do something because she feels

01:34:10.640 like that's the right thing and and this came off kind of uh not not genuine yeah yeah that's how

01:34:17.200 i did yeah go ahead i was gonna say i did have to shut it off i didn't even i couldn't even listen

01:34:22.480 to the rest of it i was like oh okay i see what this is and i feel bad to say that because you

01:34:28.720 know it is a very traumatic experience but i just i couldn't get through it i was like oh man i just

01:34:34.400 gotta shut this thing off so i don't know about the campaign but i could only imagine and yeah it

01:34:40.160 seems like a little funny but you know the world is a stage and you know unfortunately she's just

01:34:45.680 part of it and going through the motions you know yeah i had the same thought when i i saw the

01:34:51.060 speech but you don't mean to be judgmental but you just kind of it's sometimes you got you got

01:34:57.440 an ick you know got like a little funny feeling like i was like oh like i've had enough already

01:35:02.480 you know yeah you just kind of think it just seems performative and when it's something as

01:35:07.480 serious as a funeral it just gives you a weird feeling is the best way i could describe it

01:35:12.500 yeah i don't know it almost it seemed like jd vance wrote that speech for her something like

01:35:18.160 that you know what i mean it's just like i didn't think of that see the callers today you guys are

01:35:23.080 on point i mean it's like jd i wouldn't have thought of that it was somebody somebody wrote

01:35:29.520 it for her but it's not like her true genuine words and you know she's trying to be that strong

01:35:34.680 woman right now but i think really she should have just like chilled out for a little bit or

01:35:40.540 something because i know everybody wants to hear what she has to say but it just came out kind of

01:35:44.820 funny yeah i agree thanks so much for calling in thank you bye

01:35:50.040 he was he this is a good this is a good round i hope erica doesn't try to do her best version

01:36:03.840 of Charlie

01:36:05.260 you know because

01:36:07.860 Charlie had an honest

01:36:09.900 passion for what he was doing

01:36:11.600 and I'm hoping that she doesn't

01:36:14.240 try to be him if she does

01:36:16.060 step up to the plate where she kind of makes

01:36:18.100 it her own version instead of trying to

01:36:20.060 be him because

01:36:20.840 you can't be him you know what I'm saying

01:36:23.620 I hope she doesn't do it at all

01:36:25.380 I mean she's got two young kids

01:36:27.340 but the challenge you're going to get

01:36:30.200 is she's going to get more praise

01:36:31.800 for doing Charlie Kirk

01:36:33.840 then she will get raising her children.

01:36:36.920 100% you.

01:36:38.060 Dang, that's a good one.

01:36:39.040 Yeah, and I just have the feeling

01:36:41.360 that she will pick the praise of Turning Point

01:36:44.860 over the praise of her kids.

01:36:48.740 Because most women, that's kind of our default, right?

01:36:52.340 Rather have the praise of the internet

01:36:54.120 than the praise of our husbands.

01:36:55.680 We'd rather have the praise of the world

01:36:57.240 for looking like a mother rather than being one,

01:37:00.140 just in general, I'm not saying she is.

01:37:01.860 so yeah putting a woman in charge of anything in general um this is partially comedy

01:37:08.080 i just have to say that on youtube um but it just always just there's look at i i have a passion for

01:37:22.020 media and even i could not manage like the amount of people i have she is not qualified to do that

01:37:31.660 job she's just not that is a a stressful hard job i don't even blame ben shapiro for talking

01:37:39.740 about taking it over because from what i see i can't think of another person that's at least

01:37:45.940 public facing that has the qualifications i i just i don't know who else would do it everyone's

01:37:54.780 saying who else would do it other than erica i'm like i don't know anybody that's qualified but

01:37:59.840 what it like she ran like a sweatshirt company and then married charlie and became a housewife

01:38:04.300 you know what i mean what does she know about running an organization that's true i mean i'm

01:38:12.460 i'm my father's daughter but i couldn't have run his organization you know they were talking about

01:38:18.200 um the owner from the indianapolis colts died and his daughter took over and you see all this

01:38:25.460 because she's on the sidelines with the headset like listening to all the coaches and stuff

01:38:29.360 but she was literally raised in the industry like she she's been a part of the organization

01:38:36.060 since she graduated college and so she knows what she's doing and the culture is actually doing

01:38:42.060 really really well so if it were a situation like that where you know she had some kind of

01:38:47.380 experience or she was kind of groomed like that but yeah you're right erica has i mean if i'm

01:38:51.720 being if i'm being honest even her my gut just says it's probably a man doing most of the work

01:38:57.400 i'm sorry i just i just have never met a woman in my life that could rate that could manage people

01:39:04.320 well i just i don't think we have the temperament i think we're too emotional you know so just when

01:39:10.720 we're the boss you can't have an emotional boss you want an emotional employee that's true you

01:39:17.380 You know, because the emotional employee, the boss can say, like, you know, chill out.

01:39:22.480 But, yeah, employee.

01:39:26.160 Well, I think I'm going to end the show a little early today because I started late.

01:39:31.000 But, guys, this was great callers.

01:39:34.920 This was great, to be honest.

01:39:38.160 My final thoughts are I do wish Erica Kirkwell, I would suggest if she watches this,

01:39:46.120 not to take over turning point i would just focus on your kids um i'm not really a big fan of the

01:39:53.080 marketing campaign but i can also see the other perspective that may be because he was so public

01:40:00.440 um maybe there needs to be a public grieving you could argue my my if i if you had to put

01:40:08.200 gun to my head i i would say it's more disrespectful than respectful but hey i'm not god so you know

01:40:17.080 that's just my two cents doug mpa what do you what are your final thoughts um i uh

01:40:25.480 i'm right there with you i think that she should have took a little bit of time i don't think they

01:40:29.000 should have broadcast the funeral um you know i wouldn't i i'm just some dude but you know i

01:40:35.160 I wouldn't want my funeral broadcast.

01:40:38.400 And then, yeah, I'm hoping that she doesn't try to be Charlie

01:40:40.720 because there's never going to be another one.

01:40:45.040 I'm like you.

01:40:45.940 I hope that she focuses on her family and another man steps in.

01:40:51.880 And I feel like something is going to happen from Charlie Kirk's death,

01:40:57.260 like something big.

01:40:58.240 There's going to be a response.

01:40:59.340 I don't know what.

01:41:00.100 So I'm just eagerly waiting to see what happens.

01:41:02.180 And I'm hoping that Erica stays, you know,

01:41:05.240 keeps the cringe to a minimum if she's going to be involved in all this.

01:41:09.860 Do you see any super chats?

01:41:11.720 I don't know why I'm like, not the roulette had one earlier.

01:41:16.260 Could you read it?

01:41:17.780 I don't know why my computer is not pulling up.

01:41:20.680 So rural man life had a $9.99 super chat.

01:41:25.600 He said, I have a 17 minute video on five.

01:41:28.180 uh conceit five oh five concrete actions the government and public can do to address the

01:41:35.860 marxist ideology and its evil tentacles infecting society and common good i think he was on here

01:41:41.280 i think that was him okay and then um roulette wheel has a ten dollars he says something about

01:41:47.460 charlie is something about charlie is different i've never shed any tear for anyone until charlie

01:41:52.820 kirk he was a good man and the way he died was tragic yeah i agree i agree well thank you guys

01:41:59.160 all for watching um these calls were great so if we could keep this quality of caller up

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01:42:24.700 literally can't touch on youtube so um but we need to get enough people on the website to

01:42:30.180 justify doing that so anyways go ahead yeah pretty much guys if you want to see nick f

01:42:35.940 oh yeah if you guys want to see pearl go you know back up if you want to see nick f and pearl

01:42:41.840 interact it has to be on the website i think it would be entertaining but youtube does not

01:42:46.300 like that yeah so if we get enough callers maybe we could um subscribe on the website maybe we could

01:42:53.260 facilitate that yeah and if i get enough people on the website then um then we can justify bringing

01:42:59.780 on more controversial people but you know free speech does come at a cost and at the moment i'm

01:43:06.120 at youtube's i'm at youtube's feet so we really got to get enough people so i could i could bring

01:43:13.000 God, more crazy people.

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Pearl - September 17, 2025

Is There a Right or Wrong Way to Mourn (Call-in Show) ｜ Pearl Daily

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