Pearl - Islam should be separated from Muslims ｜ The SITDOWN ｜ @MohammedHijab

00:00:00.000 What Muslim countries do is a different story. 1.00

00:00:01.920 Sometimes you have Muslim countries that do all kinds of things, for example, on a 0.99

00:00:05.100 killing or this one or that one, or if you've someone being beaten or something,

00:00:08.740 you'll find some pictures or videos online.

00:00:11.500 The right wing people are putting videos and pictures of people doing things which

00:00:15.120 are not in line with Islam, for example, molesting women or sexual assault or

00:00:19.140 something like that. 0.98

00:00:19.800 Oh, that's what.

00:00:21.720 Yeah, because we had grooming and all that kind of thing.

00:00:24.000 Yeah, because that's, oh, that's what it was.

00:00:26.160 You're reminding me because Tommy Robinson, he was here the other day.

00:00:29.520 And I think that's what he was talking about.

00:00:31.520 In Islam, a man is not... 0.99

00:00:32.520 Would you say that's a problem in Islam?

00:00:34.520 No.

00:00:35.520 This isn't like a gotcha.

00:00:36.520 No, no, no.

00:00:37.520 It's not.

00:00:38.520 It really is.

00:00:39.520 Because the thing is, in Islam, there's strict rules about how a man or woman should operate.

00:00:42.520 Okay.

00:00:43.520 So for example, there's not allowed to be physical contact unless they're married.

00:00:46.520 Any physical contact of any sort.

00:00:49.520 So I find it hard to believe that someone, a religion that says you're not allowed to have any physical contact,

00:00:54.520 they shouldn't look at the woman lustfully, for example, which is something in the New Testament and the Quran as well.

00:00:59.520 that you should be respectful to the woman yeah how can you go from a religion that says that

00:01:03.780 very clearly in its primary text to to justify and grooming somebody so there is no causal link

00:01:11.440 between what some people in the west may do and we won't deny there are some people who do bad

00:01:17.020 things so muslim people you know and what islam so you have to differentiate between islam and

00:01:21.180 muslims just like you have to differentiate between christianity and christian christians 0.99

00:01:24.520 so someone's strongest argument against islam is oh there's grooming gangs in the west and

00:01:29.220 people are coming here because they want to come and live here and that's why 1.00

00:01:32.340 christianity therefore christianity is true so yeah but i'm not even i'm just

00:01:36.180 asking is that is what he's saying true are there there are but there is a woman 0.90

00:01:41.060 called elaine cockbane yeah she's a professor i think she's she's written

00:01:45.300 something about this and what she had shown is that actually uh the grooming

00:01:50.260 phenomena is not is not in fact uh disproportionate to muslims and asians

00:01:55.540 she considers it to be a a problem and also it's a problem with westerners it's not just like you

00:02:00.900 know minority groups another problem that is very specific to us and i looked at the reports um

00:02:05.700 there's one by the world health organization about stranger rape obviously rape itself i mean the 0.85

00:02:11.540 the criterion of assessment of how do we do we agree with any woman without evidence no we don't 0.99

00:02:16.580 we have to have evidence for it but for the sake of argument the world health organization mentioned

00:02:21.620 that stranger rape is actually more prominent in western countries than it is in islamic countries 0.98

00:02:26.580 different kinds of rape according to this report about sexual assault is in fact more prominent in

00:02:32.420 the islamic countries and western countries but according to this report it's actually stranger

00:02:37.460 rape is more so i guess the way that i would guess it though that's got to be because they call

00:02:42.340 everything rape and i'm not i'm not saying it's right or it's wrong but like my mind immediately

00:02:46.660 goes to the reason those stats are out of control in the west is because they call everything rape

00:02:52.820 but then it should be commensurate with the other rape because there's sexual assault of like for 0.87

00:02:57.300 example a close family member and stuff like that that was lower in parts of the western world as

00:03:02.340 it was in other places so there's no issue here of this anonymity to get guaranteed you know i

00:03:07.620 mean in these reports i'm not saying their reports are right or every claimant of rape is something

00:03:12.260 which is true but what i'm saying is that if we looked at the official and most strong statistics

00:03:16.820 that we have there's no evidence that muslim people are more likely to commit sexual assault

00:03:21.140 on women than any non-muslim people um because i think i'm trying to remember he would say it's

00:03:28.020 because it's covered up right i think that's what tommy would say like why does i'm just curious

00:03:32.820 what yeah i mean because it's interesting because i'll talk to two people and they'll both like

00:03:37.540 neither will seem to me to be liars right they'll both like oh they might be i don't know i i tend

00:03:43.780 to like you know people but i'll talk to you you seem smart you seem like you know you're telling

00:03:48.260 me the truth i'm giving you references as well yeah and tommy it's like a similar thing and he'll

00:03:52.740 also give like his references yeah there's a kernel of truth in what he says yeah that's what makes

00:03:57.460 it so my my question more is like why does he like why do you think he thinks that there are

00:04:03.380 instances where you find people from an asian background and a muslim background that are

00:04:07.780 committing sexual assault on women well why that does happen in the west it's happened in germany

00:04:12.740 it's happened in in the uk now it's how you report on this issue so for example if you were to say

00:04:18.900 that this is something which comes back to islam as a religion i say to you prove that please

00:04:23.540 because in islam as a religion it's very strict on gender relations in fact that's one of the

00:04:28.020 central criticisms of islamic countries that there's so much it's so strict you know a woman 0.98

00:04:32.660 has to cover up why does a woman have to cover up in the quran it says the reason why is so that she 1.00

00:04:37.220 doesn't get molested so to prevent sexual assault one of the reasons is to do that so if the quran 1.00

00:04:42.500 is telling you this clearly if this is in the in the basic precepts of the chronic of the chronic

00:04:47.700 discourse then it's where you make a causal link between islam and this phenomena where the fallacy

00:04:55.380 lies because not every causation is not every correlation is a causation you're jumping from a

00:05:01.060 correlation, which is not even a fair one into a causation. And that analysis is flawed. Another

00:05:06.980 thing I would say is, if you look at human trafficking, in this country, they have the

00:05:11.140 slavery act. If you look at the particulars of that particular act, and see who are the victims,

00:05:18.100 according to the study of human trafficking, it's usually women from an ethnic background.

00:05:22.340 And who are the perpetrators a lot of the time is white men. So anyone can make a case about

00:05:26.980 anything. Do you know what I mean? If I dedicated my Twitter and my YouTube to looking at all the

00:05:34.260 white perpetrators of sexual assault, put in a picture of them and saying this guy done this

00:05:38.820 and this he was convicted of that, that could be a full time job for me. And then if I was to be even

00:05:45.140 worse and say this is as a result of Christian teachings, someone say what's that got to do with

00:05:49.140 Christian teaching? It could be a Christian man. But that's nothing to do with Christian teaching.

00:05:52.180 The Catholic Church is very famous for the priests molesting the boys.

00:05:55.620 well yeah but if someone asked me like why like people thought that the the priests were molesters

00:06:03.060 i would say because like it happened you know you know like it wouldn't there's nothing in

00:06:07.140 christianity that says that's legitimate correct right like but i would just say it's because

00:06:12.260 like that happened yeah yeah so i guess like do you think it's more common in islam or like from

00:06:18.980 muslim backgrounds i don't think it's all made up i don't think either of those propositions are

00:06:24.100 are true. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Look,

00:06:26.320 Islam is one out of four people in the world today. And in the 1.00

00:06:30.460 world, right? And if we're talking about the end of the

00:06:32.440 century, it'll be one out of three people, it'll be the

00:06:34.280 biggest. If there was, if the world was in front of you, and

00:06:38.680 the population of the world is in front of you, one of every

00:06:40.360 three people that you're going to meet in 2100, according to

00:06:42.580 pure research is going to be Muslim. So it's obviously when 1.00

00:06:45.720 you have adherence of a faith that are that plentiful and

00:06:48.760 numerous, you're going to have a disproportionately higher

00:06:52.100 number of criminals in that number in that number okay so your view is it's just there's a ton of

00:06:56.820 people yes and that's that's why like that no i i think it's a little bit more complicated than that

00:07:03.140 i think where you do find instances of criminality in the west by say people from countries that are

00:07:08.500 muslim is usually to do with social class that's my final final analysis in the sense that

00:07:16.260 if you the number one predictor of criminality anywhere in the world i think is social class

00:07:20.100 a person who's rich has less reason to commit crimes than someone who's poor okay the risk

00:07:25.580 reward ratio for them is less and so it just so happens in the uk for for reasons to do with the

00:07:31.380 war and history after world war ii you know obviously britain was a colony it brought all

00:07:36.160 these people that are blue-collar workers from from pakistan from india from all these different

00:07:40.100 countries to work as blue-collar workers they were working class here so a lot of them a large

00:07:45.500 contingent became criminals not because of where they're from what belief they have it's just

00:07:49.900 because of the conditions they had.

00:07:51.380 That's why you'll find when I went to California

00:07:53.160 in the United States of America,

00:07:55.440 the United States of America

00:07:56.580 had a completely different selection process

00:07:58.360 when they were bringing people into the country.

00:08:00.860 And in California, for example,

00:08:02.260 the same people from the same countries,

00:08:04.420 but they were middle class

00:08:05.460 and now maybe even upper class professionals

00:08:07.540 and so on because America was much more careful

00:08:10.400 as who comes in.

00:08:12.460 Not anymore.

00:08:13.740 They just let everyone in now.

00:08:15.760 I don't think so.

00:08:16.700 Now they've become very difficult

00:08:17.960 for even us to go inside there.

00:08:19.000 Oh, legally, but no, no, freaking, even where I'm from, it's like they, there's like buses and people.

00:08:25.920 But on the issue, because they don't have colonies in Pakistan and India and, you know, these countries in the Middle East.

00:08:31.380 And so as a result of that, when they're bringing people in now, they had more selection.

00:08:35.180 They weren't trying to rebuild the country.

00:08:36.580 So you think it's a class, like they're basically bringing in low class people. 0.99

00:08:41.260 So what they're getting is when you have, what I'm saying is we've always heard black people are criminals. 0.96

00:08:47.000 it's because of the color of their skin, race realists would say that. 0.94

00:08:50.880 Some people would go as far as it's because of the color of their skin.

00:08:53.520 Some would say it's because of the culture.

00:08:55.160 Some would say, I say the number one predictor is class, which is, it doesn't

00:09:01.160 matter if you're black, white or Arab or from a Pakistani background or whatever

00:09:05.000 background, if you are working class, you are more likely to be engaged in

00:09:08.760 criminality anywhere in the world.

00:09:10.840 And the reason why I brought to your attention the case of the Pakistan is the 0.72

00:09:16.640 same people with the same religion okay but you put them in one place they've 0.99

00:09:20.480 got a different working class so the risk reward ratio for them is less 0.98

00:09:22.860 therefore they perform from a socio-economic perspective much better

00:09:26.360 another place because England had a different set of economic reasons for 0.70

00:09:29.900 bringing these people in

Pearl - May 09, 2024

Islam should be separated from Muslims ｜ The SITDOWN ｜ @MohammedHijab

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