Pearl - Lauren Southern Abandons Being a Housewife for Internet Clout

00:00:00.000 A lot of times we look at marriage as bringing people happiness, but happy people tend to get

00:00:05.200 married. It's a byproduct of being a happy person because that's a skill. So if you're an unhappy

00:00:12.660 person, you just become an unhappy married person. If you're an unhappy person, you're just an

00:00:17.040 unhappy person with a kid. So basically Lauren Southern recently put out a book 0.73

00:00:21.480 and I didn't read it because I just have better things to do. But basically,

00:00:27.360 but I will. Do you know what? If you guys pay me enough, I might do it. But I just think we all

00:00:33.600 got better things to do with our time, but I will cook her today. So I want to show you what happens

00:00:38.640 is the sisterhood's always real. So even women that say they're conservative. So this is Alex Clark

00:00:44.880 and she's assisting Lauren Southern and accusing all of the right of rape when she was really just 0.99

00:00:52.160 being a whore. So, yeah. I think the majority of women in the trad wife space are having massive 1.00

00:01:00.000 problems in their relationship that they will never talk about publicly. Are we talking about

00:01:04.760 online influencers in the trad wife space? Yes. Yes. Conservative space? Yes. Some have speculated that

00:01:11.520 your ex was a Romeo spy. Is there any possibility that that could be true?

00:01:16.220 Oh, I don't like crying on the internet, but my son's going to grow up. He's going to watch this.

00:01:21.260 And I want him to know that I loved his dad very much. I think the one reason I don't remain

00:01:27.020 tortured by this relationship is because I gave it everything within a thousand times of him saying,

00:01:33.660 I'm going to divorce you a thousand times. I said, I'm not giving up on you.

00:01:37.100 And the worst part is it's funded by men. So turning point USA, that's the thing. Men, 0.93

00:01:48.860 they often get what they deserve because it's like they just, they go to the ends of the earth to destroy

00:01:56.060 men. Ideal image of marriage and family lacks the nuance and complexity of real life.

00:02:03.500 That is the story of what happened to her. A trad wife fairy tale turned into a nightmare. 0.95

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00:02:29.180 star review on Apple podcasts or Spotify at no cost to you. Today, you'll hear from Lauren Southern,

00:02:34.700 a Canadian journalist, documentary filmmaker, YouTube firebrand, author, mother, and survivor.

00:02:41.900 This is Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark.

00:02:48.300 Lauren Southern, you've had one of the most compelling careers in the conservative media space,

00:02:53.660 but are the rumors true that you're a feminist now? If I call myself that I will. And now it's crashed.

00:02:59.900 Now your career's over. Alex, I can't tell if this girl's just stupid. Have you been through a nasty 1.00

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00:03:28.540 with knowledge. Go to pearlinvite.com. Watch the short video and apply because nobody is coming to save

00:03:35.500 you, but we can show you how to save yourself. I have accusations made against me that do not apply

00:03:41.820 and expectations I cannot fulfill. So I'm going to avoid that one like the plague. I plead the fifth.

00:03:46.940 Well, talk a little bit about the environment that you grew up in, the belief system that you grew up

00:03:52.300 in, in your family, and how you ended up being. I would say that you are one of the first major

00:03:58.540 content creators in the conservative independent media space. Yeah. Well, I grew up in Canada,

00:04:03.180 so that's a pretty radicalizing experience. I'd say we're about 10 to 15 years ahead on the

00:04:08.220 kind of left-wing progressive ideology compared to America. And growing up in Vancouver in particular,

00:04:14.460 where we have mass immigration to the point where I don't even think the local population

00:04:19.180 are the majority anymore, it's mostly immigrants right now, made my lived experience one in which 0.82

00:04:27.820 I had to embrace right-wing ideas. I was watching my culture entirely change before me. And by the

00:04:35.420 time I was in grade 12, we had progressive classes being introduced, literally Social Progress 12 or

00:04:42.860 something where we were learning about white privilege, male privilege, this kind of stuff.

00:04:47.340 And let's, let's get to the facing accusations, maybe let's skip that.

00:04:53.500 But there were also a lot of, I don't care about your early life, Lauren. I don't care why you're a 1.00

00:04:57.820 whore. I don't, I just care that you're doing it. There are things going on in the background 1.00

00:05:02.300 that I didn't talk about publicly because it was so complicated. After I did my big documentary,

00:05:08.940 farmlands and borderless, I was being massively attacked by large global media corporations,

00:05:16.780 but also intelligence agencies. What were they saying about you? They were saying,

00:05:20.220 Lauren Southern is what? White nationalist was a big accusation of a country so people can have 1.00

00:05:26.300 families. Your career is done, Lauren, done. That they can raise with freedom, freedom of religion.

00:05:32.460 You know, I want to have that family one day. I want to have kids. I want to be,

00:05:37.500 you know, what I'm fighting for. And if I keep this going, like I am going to end up behind bars

00:05:43.500 for sure. I just narrowly escaped going to jail in Turkey, narrowly. And when I got married,

00:05:50.060 my husband was an Australian and he was also working for a federal government capacity.

00:05:58.460 And the Australian government told me I wasn't going to be allowed to come to the country,

00:06:03.260 visit family, nothing, unless I quit politics. It was literally in their stipulation letter to me.

00:06:08.460 You are banned from the country. You're put on vacuum, which is a list for terrorists, criminals,

00:06:13.340 everything. We will only take you off that list and allow you in if you quit politics.

00:06:17.900 Was it a no brainer for you? Like done, like I quit or, or was it something that you really thought

00:06:23.340 through and was, were kind of struggling with?

00:06:25.500 Obviously it's something I would have preferred not been the case, but it was a no brainer. Like I,

00:06:31.500 when I told people, you know, family is my goal, having kids get, when I decided, you know,

00:06:37.020 before we get into all of this, I want to clarify, I'm not the ideal trad wife. I had a career. I had

00:06:42.300 boyfriends before my husband. I had like, you know, she was a whore. Yeah. You banged destiny. 1.00

00:06:48.300 Everything. Nothing about my life is normal. Right. But when I got married, I was like, this is my

00:06:53.260 primary goal in life to be a mother, a wife and have kids and everything else comes secondary. 0.90

00:06:59.180 So letting go of my career was absolutely a no brainer, but I would have preferred to have it

00:07:04.060 and been able to speak publicly and not have a government be oppressive to me because of my

00:07:08.860 ideology for sure. Were you feeling any type of internal pressure? Like this is the kind of content

00:07:15.420 I talk about and I need to make sure I'm living it out. People can pretend when they are content

00:07:21.020 creators that they don't feel pressure from their audience, that they don't feel pressure from the

00:07:25.020 comments section. I remember when I was 20, 21 years old, I published a video saying why I'm not

00:07:30.700 married because I was getting so much incessant pressure from my audience saying you should have

00:07:36.060 kids now. You're basically valueless as a woman. You're out here traveling and being a career. And I had to 1.00

00:07:40.780 go out there and be like, you shouldn't rush into marriage. You should find someone. She should just 1.00

00:07:46.300 stay put, make children and then go back to politics and then stop going to Turkey or whatever foreign 0.86

00:07:51.980 countries. Yeah. But she crashed out. She did tell all about her exes. Yeah. Dangerous woman. That's 1.00

00:07:58.860 good for you. And like, make sure the test of time goes through. You should, some people aren't going to

00:08:04.620 get married and that's okay. And I really tried to clarify that to my audience, but I felt like I was

00:08:08.940 almost trying to clarify that to my, yeah, because this is what it is. Um, again, feminism is a 1.00

00:08:16.940 strategy for women to spend their youth on themselves. And when women do that, it makes, um, especially 1.00

00:08:25.580 non sexually active men upset. And the reason is because the, the men sexually active, it benefits

00:08:33.820 them. Right. So again, betas benefit the most from marriage and that's why they push it. Alphas are

00:08:39.740 getting sex. Um, I hate using those terms, they're placeholders, but you guys get the idea. Self, 0.98

00:08:44.700 because I was feeling the pressure of this ideology and growing up, you don't really know things until

00:08:50.380 you live them. You don't, that's just how it works. You know, what's that Ann Coulter quote, a

00:08:56.300 liberal is just a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet. I believe it was the quote. So it's like,

00:09:01.020 you don't understand the case. And we should have a lot of people turning red in, in California this

00:09:06.700 year. Mass muggings. Yeah. Um, so especially in the zeitgeist, like I grew up throughout the whole 0.54

00:09:14.860 creation of the internet, you know, I was born in 95 and I started on like Neopets as a young girl,

00:09:22.300 the forums Tumblr when it came out, MSN messenger. Oh, you did Tumblr too. And I had MSN messenger and aim

00:09:29.500 both. Yeah. Yeah. So all of these like more rudimentary beginnings of the internet. And

00:09:34.700 then by the time I was a teenager, like people started making YouTube content, you start watching

00:09:39.660 that. And unfortunately what was lost in that transition was you used to be able to get all

00:09:46.700 of your information about relationships and love and what to do from real people around you where

00:09:52.780 you could really see the fruits of what they were talking about. So if someone was giving you advice on

00:09:57.100 how to structure your relationship, well, you could see if they had successful relationships

00:10:00.700 in their life, they were in your community. Whereas the information we're getting today

00:10:05.740 is from a lot of people who are creating exciting advice, things that make you feel very confident

00:10:13.420 about the approach you're taking. If you do this, if you follow this listicle, then you are going to be.

00:10:17.500 Well, and the other issue is advice that worked for boomers doesn't work for Gen Z or millennials.

00:10:22.860 The boomer dad used to just be able to go out. There's a hot woman, thin, ready. I mean, Gen Z guys 1.00

00:10:29.340 got to figure out how to put their wife on a nutrition plan because they're all fat. So, 1.00

00:10:35.660 and then also how to like not get herpy. Like these, they don't, they have no idea. They have no idea.

00:10:44.140 Be happy and healthy. And if you don't do this, you're going to be a miserable wench, 0.99

00:10:48.300 but you can't see any of them. But so the other issue is a lot of times we look at marriage is 0.95

00:10:53.900 bringing people happiness, but happy people tend to get married. It's a byproduct of being a happy

00:11:01.260 person because that's a skill. So if you're an unhappy person, you just become an unhappy married

00:11:06.300 person. If you're not a happy person, you're just an unhappy person with a kid. They don't make you like,

00:11:11.660 it's almost selfish to put your happiness on somebody else real struggles they're having

00:11:17.820 because everything looks good. They think she's hot. She's got herpes guys. Allegedly. That's it. 1.00

00:11:23.740 I mean, allegedly she got it from Tate. So she could be hot, but that HPV and herpes is coming for it. 1.00

00:11:31.340 It's like, you guys learn nothing from our Friday STD shows.

00:11:34.540 Everything is sanitized. What was the path to follow that you thought if I do this, this, and this,

00:11:39.660 this will lead to a successful marriage and happy relationship?

00:11:42.300 It was the whole trad wife stuff was beginning to become very popular on the internet. When I was at

00:11:47.180 the dynamo of my career, you have to, you know, not have your job. You have to quit your job,

00:11:53.500 make that secondary, be the stay at home wife, be more submissive, um, follow your husband,

00:11:59.420 wherever he goes, got to be attractive, skinny, young, you want to get married young for sure.

00:12:04.460 Because if you get married past 25, then you've hit the wall and you're, you know, basically used

00:12:08.860 goods, whatever. There, there were all of these. I don't know how she could argue that she's not

00:12:12.940 used goods as a single mother that has the reputation she has. Do you know what I mean? 1.00

00:12:21.660 These advice pieces that I thought I had won. I was way cuter at 22. I was fatter, but you know,

00:12:29.420 I was way cuter. Like, um,

00:12:36.700 I, I wasn't this black pilled. I probably was more pleasant, you know, it just is what it is. 0.97

00:12:41.100 Lottery. I found a very masculine guy. Someone said herpes. I'm going to die soon anyway. So

00:12:46.060 fuck it. Well, I, with a masculine career and I did absolutely love my husband. 1.00

00:12:52.140 One of the worst things. Tell us how you met him and what your first impression was.

00:13:00.700 The first time I met him was actually, we weren't dating or anything then, but it was when I was

00:13:06.140 touring Australia and he was introduced to me as like a government dignitary. So it was very impressive,

00:13:13.900 very important person. We shook hands, took a picture, and then I had to go and do my speeches.

00:13:20.060 And then I didn't meet him again for a while and we weren't even dating then either, but he actually

00:13:27.340 in a way kind of saved me from jail in Turkey. Um, he, I can't get into the details too much because it is

00:13:35.260 like really weird government stuff that was good. Yeah. And this is someone just submitted this there.

00:13:42.860 Why are they promoting a whore and a drug addict allegedly? This is the reputation she has. 1.00

00:13:50.540 I mean, guys,

00:13:53.900 I've been on the internet forever. The only thing they got on me is an ex-boyfriend I had publicly.

00:14:01.660 It was a pub and look at, I'm not perfect. Something ever comes out.

00:14:05.500 I'll just say, you know, just is what it is, but I can tell you what won't come out.

00:14:10.700 Drugs, whored, um, sleeping with destiny. Yeah. That, that will not come out. That no, no, no, no, 0.84

00:14:19.660 no, no, no. I do not. I would not. I would never risk AIDS. Anyone that sleeps with a bi guy is just 0.93

00:14:25.580 stupid going on, but he wasn't supposed to come and get me. If I got arrested, he wasn't supposed to 1.00

00:14:31.500 because he might sacrifice his security clearance. He might, you know, get in trouble himself with,

00:14:38.940 with his government jobs. And I remember after being arrested by the military, they handed us

00:14:46.060 over to the gendarme and my security that was with me at that time looked at me and he's like, 0.53

00:14:51.100 we're screwed. If we get handed over to the gendarme, cause they can charge us. The military

00:14:55.100 couldn't charge us, but these people can. They bring us in, you know, at gunpoint in these cars,

00:15:00.300 this little rickety old station with the lights swinging in the ceiling, a painting of Ataturk.

00:15:05.820 And I remember walking in there thinking, wow, I'm probably going to jail for the rest of my twenties.

00:15:10.460 And then seeing he wasn't my husband at the time, but my husband waiting there

00:15:14.860 after he was supposed to cut and run and leave me and thinking, oh my goodness, what an incredible man.

00:15:20.620 And how soon were you married and pregnant? We moved very quick. And how did she reward him?

00:15:27.980 A fricking hit piece. It was like, we had known each other for like, I guess I'd met him like eight 0.75

00:15:34.540 months beforehand, but we only dated for like five months. What did your ex tell you that he was

00:15:43.020 looking for in an ideal relationship? So this is something I think about a lot

00:15:47.660 also, cause I spend a lot of time online talking about what I wanted. So if you wanted to date me,

00:15:53.500 you could go look up exactly the things I would want to hear. You could go look at my Twitter

00:15:57.660 timeline, my YouTube. And he told me. Oh my gosh, this is a problem. And I'm just going to say this firsthand.

00:16:07.100 I never wanted to date somebody that knew my stuff. It's just too much. It's like, okay. And I've heard

00:16:18.620 other YouTubers talk about this. It's not a fair fight when you know everything about me and I know

00:16:25.660 nothing about you makes me so uncomfortable. It does. I'm like, you know, because streaming in a way,

00:16:33.260 it's like a private, it's like, I know it's public, but sometimes it feels private.

00:16:41.340 I don't like when it's like brought up, you know, I don't, I never liked when to date somebody that knew

00:16:47.420 my stuff. And there were even times where like someone would tell me they watched and I'm like,

00:16:54.540 I got a balance. I'm not doing that. I didn't care if they were like, and they'd seen my shorts,

00:16:58.860 but if I'm like, yeah, I know this is the, yeah. Now they're saying in the chat, I don't know your

00:17:09.820 stuff. Oh my God. It's too, you just can't salute Pearl expose these fake trap 304s. Thank you. 0.94

00:17:18.140 Everything I wanted to hear. I want to have a fan, the most public private job ever. I know

00:17:27.980 it's something you never, you never think about Emily. I want to stay at home, but I don't think

00:17:34.780 he manipulated her the way she's going to like paint this. I'd like to clarify. I just, it's almost

00:17:40.460 like, okay. Because when you meet someone, it's like, you share a little, they share a little,

00:17:45.100 and then they, all of a sudden they have everything I think, you know, so

Pearl - August 03, 2025

Lauren Southern Abandons Being a Housewife for Internet Clout

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