Pearl - August 03, 2025
Lauren Southern Abandons Being a Housewife for Internet Clout
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Summary
Lauren Southern is a Canadian journalist, documentary filmmaker, YouTube firebrand, author, mother, and survivor. In this episode, we talk about how she became a feminist, how she got her start in the conservative media space, and what it s like being a victim of sexual assault.
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A lot of times we look at marriage as bringing people happiness, but happy people tend to get
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married. It's a byproduct of being a happy person because that's a skill. So if you're an unhappy
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person, you just become an unhappy married person. If you're an unhappy person, you're just an
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unhappy person with a kid. So basically Lauren Southern recently put out a book
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and I didn't read it because I just have better things to do. But basically,
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but I will. Do you know what? If you guys pay me enough, I might do it. But I just think we all
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got better things to do with our time, but I will cook her today. So I want to show you what happens
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is the sisterhood's always real. So even women that say they're conservative. So this is Alex Clark
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and she's assisting Lauren Southern and accusing all of the right of rape when she was really just
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being a whore. So, yeah. I think the majority of women in the trad wife space are having massive
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problems in their relationship that they will never talk about publicly. Are we talking about
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online influencers in the trad wife space? Yes. Yes. Conservative space? Yes. Some have speculated that
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your ex was a Romeo spy. Is there any possibility that that could be true?
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Oh, I don't like crying on the internet, but my son's going to grow up. He's going to watch this.
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And I want him to know that I loved his dad very much. I think the one reason I don't remain
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tortured by this relationship is because I gave it everything within a thousand times of him saying,
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I'm going to divorce you a thousand times. I said, I'm not giving up on you.
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And the worst part is it's funded by men. So turning point USA, that's the thing. Men,
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they often get what they deserve because it's like they just, they go to the ends of the earth to destroy
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men. Ideal image of marriage and family lacks the nuance and complexity of real life.
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That is the story of what happened to her. A trad wife fairy tale turned into a nightmare.
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a Canadian journalist, documentary filmmaker, YouTube firebrand, author, mother, and survivor.
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Lauren Southern, you've had one of the most compelling careers in the conservative media space,
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but are the rumors true that you're a feminist now? If I call myself that I will. And now it's crashed.
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Now your career's over. Alex, I can't tell if this girl's just stupid. Have you been through a nasty
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with knowledge. Go to pearlinvite.com. Watch the short video and apply because nobody is coming to save
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you, but we can show you how to save yourself. I have accusations made against me that do not apply
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and expectations I cannot fulfill. So I'm going to avoid that one like the plague. I plead the fifth.
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Well, talk a little bit about the environment that you grew up in, the belief system that you grew up
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in, in your family, and how you ended up being. I would say that you are one of the first major
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content creators in the conservative independent media space. Yeah. Well, I grew up in Canada,
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so that's a pretty radicalizing experience. I'd say we're about 10 to 15 years ahead on the
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kind of left-wing progressive ideology compared to America. And growing up in Vancouver in particular,
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where we have mass immigration to the point where I don't even think the local population
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are the majority anymore, it's mostly immigrants right now, made my lived experience one in which
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I had to embrace right-wing ideas. I was watching my culture entirely change before me. And by the
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time I was in grade 12, we had progressive classes being introduced, literally Social Progress 12 or
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something where we were learning about white privilege, male privilege, this kind of stuff.
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And let's, let's get to the facing accusations, maybe let's skip that.
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But there were also a lot of, I don't care about your early life, Lauren. I don't care why you're a
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whore. I don't, I just care that you're doing it. There are things going on in the background
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that I didn't talk about publicly because it was so complicated. After I did my big documentary,
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farmlands and borderless, I was being massively attacked by large global media corporations,
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but also intelligence agencies. What were they saying about you? They were saying,
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Lauren Southern is what? White nationalist was a big accusation of a country so people can have
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families. Your career is done, Lauren, done. That they can raise with freedom, freedom of religion.
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You know, I want to have that family one day. I want to have kids. I want to be,
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you know, what I'm fighting for. And if I keep this going, like I am going to end up behind bars
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for sure. I just narrowly escaped going to jail in Turkey, narrowly. And when I got married,
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my husband was an Australian and he was also working for a federal government capacity.
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And the Australian government told me I wasn't going to be allowed to come to the country,
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visit family, nothing, unless I quit politics. It was literally in their stipulation letter to me.
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You are banned from the country. You're put on vacuum, which is a list for terrorists, criminals,
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everything. We will only take you off that list and allow you in if you quit politics.
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Was it a no brainer for you? Like done, like I quit or, or was it something that you really thought
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Obviously it's something I would have preferred not been the case, but it was a no brainer. Like I,
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when I told people, you know, family is my goal, having kids get, when I decided, you know,
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before we get into all of this, I want to clarify, I'm not the ideal trad wife. I had a career. I had
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boyfriends before my husband. I had like, you know, she was a whore. Yeah. You banged destiny.
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Everything. Nothing about my life is normal. Right. But when I got married, I was like, this is my
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primary goal in life to be a mother, a wife and have kids and everything else comes secondary.
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So letting go of my career was absolutely a no brainer, but I would have preferred to have it
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and been able to speak publicly and not have a government be oppressive to me because of my
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ideology for sure. Were you feeling any type of internal pressure? Like this is the kind of content
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I talk about and I need to make sure I'm living it out. People can pretend when they are content
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creators that they don't feel pressure from their audience, that they don't feel pressure from the
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comments section. I remember when I was 20, 21 years old, I published a video saying why I'm not
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married because I was getting so much incessant pressure from my audience saying you should have
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kids now. You're basically valueless as a woman. You're out here traveling and being a career. And I had to
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go out there and be like, you shouldn't rush into marriage. You should find someone. She should just
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stay put, make children and then go back to politics and then stop going to Turkey or whatever foreign
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countries. Yeah. But she crashed out. She did tell all about her exes. Yeah. Dangerous woman. That's
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good for you. And like, make sure the test of time goes through. You should, some people aren't going to
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get married and that's okay. And I really tried to clarify that to my audience, but I felt like I was
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almost trying to clarify that to my, yeah, because this is what it is. Um, again, feminism is a
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strategy for women to spend their youth on themselves. And when women do that, it makes, um, especially
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non sexually active men upset. And the reason is because the, the men sexually active, it benefits
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them. Right. So again, betas benefit the most from marriage and that's why they push it. Alphas are
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getting sex. Um, I hate using those terms, they're placeholders, but you guys get the idea. Self,
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because I was feeling the pressure of this ideology and growing up, you don't really know things until
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you live them. You don't, that's just how it works. You know, what's that Ann Coulter quote, a
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liberal is just a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet. I believe it was the quote. So it's like,
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you don't understand the case. And we should have a lot of people turning red in, in California this
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year. Mass muggings. Yeah. Um, so especially in the zeitgeist, like I grew up throughout the whole
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creation of the internet, you know, I was born in 95 and I started on like Neopets as a young girl,
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the forums Tumblr when it came out, MSN messenger. Oh, you did Tumblr too. And I had MSN messenger and aim
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both. Yeah. Yeah. So all of these like more rudimentary beginnings of the internet. And
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then by the time I was a teenager, like people started making YouTube content, you start watching
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that. And unfortunately what was lost in that transition was you used to be able to get all
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of your information about relationships and love and what to do from real people around you where
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you could really see the fruits of what they were talking about. So if someone was giving you advice on
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how to structure your relationship, well, you could see if they had successful relationships
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in their life, they were in your community. Whereas the information we're getting today
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is from a lot of people who are creating exciting advice, things that make you feel very confident
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about the approach you're taking. If you do this, if you follow this listicle, then you are going to be.
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Well, and the other issue is advice that worked for boomers doesn't work for Gen Z or millennials.
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The boomer dad used to just be able to go out. There's a hot woman, thin, ready. I mean, Gen Z guys
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got to figure out how to put their wife on a nutrition plan because they're all fat. So,
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and then also how to like not get herpy. Like these, they don't, they have no idea. They have no idea.
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Be happy and healthy. And if you don't do this, you're going to be a miserable wench,
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but you can't see any of them. But so the other issue is a lot of times we look at marriage is
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bringing people happiness, but happy people tend to get married. It's a byproduct of being a happy
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person because that's a skill. So if you're an unhappy person, you just become an unhappy married
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person. If you're not a happy person, you're just an unhappy person with a kid. They don't make you like,
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it's almost selfish to put your happiness on somebody else real struggles they're having
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because everything looks good. They think she's hot. She's got herpes guys. Allegedly. That's it.
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I mean, allegedly she got it from Tate. So she could be hot, but that HPV and herpes is coming for it.
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It's like, you guys learn nothing from our Friday STD shows.
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Everything is sanitized. What was the path to follow that you thought if I do this, this, and this,
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this will lead to a successful marriage and happy relationship?
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It was the whole trad wife stuff was beginning to become very popular on the internet. When I was at
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the dynamo of my career, you have to, you know, not have your job. You have to quit your job,
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make that secondary, be the stay at home wife, be more submissive, um, follow your husband,
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wherever he goes, got to be attractive, skinny, young, you want to get married young for sure.
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Because if you get married past 25, then you've hit the wall and you're, you know, basically used
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goods, whatever. There, there were all of these. I don't know how she could argue that she's not
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used goods as a single mother that has the reputation she has. Do you know what I mean?
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These advice pieces that I thought I had won. I was way cuter at 22. I was fatter, but you know,
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I, I wasn't this black pilled. I probably was more pleasant, you know, it just is what it is.
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Lottery. I found a very masculine guy. Someone said herpes. I'm going to die soon anyway. So
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fuck it. Well, I, with a masculine career and I did absolutely love my husband.
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One of the worst things. Tell us how you met him and what your first impression was.
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The first time I met him was actually, we weren't dating or anything then, but it was when I was
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touring Australia and he was introduced to me as like a government dignitary. So it was very impressive,
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very important person. We shook hands, took a picture, and then I had to go and do my speeches.
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And then I didn't meet him again for a while and we weren't even dating then either, but he actually
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in a way kind of saved me from jail in Turkey. Um, he, I can't get into the details too much because it is
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like really weird government stuff that was good. Yeah. And this is someone just submitted this there.
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Why are they promoting a whore and a drug addict allegedly? This is the reputation she has.
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I've been on the internet forever. The only thing they got on me is an ex-boyfriend I had publicly.
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It was a pub and look at, I'm not perfect. Something ever comes out.
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I'll just say, you know, just is what it is, but I can tell you what won't come out.
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Drugs, whored, um, sleeping with destiny. Yeah. That, that will not come out. That no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no. I do not. I would not. I would never risk AIDS. Anyone that sleeps with a bi guy is just
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stupid going on, but he wasn't supposed to come and get me. If I got arrested, he wasn't supposed to
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because he might sacrifice his security clearance. He might, you know, get in trouble himself with,
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with his government jobs. And I remember after being arrested by the military, they handed us
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over to the gendarme and my security that was with me at that time looked at me and he's like,
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we're screwed. If we get handed over to the gendarme, cause they can charge us. The military
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couldn't charge us, but these people can. They bring us in, you know, at gunpoint in these cars,
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this little rickety old station with the lights swinging in the ceiling, a painting of Ataturk.
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And I remember walking in there thinking, wow, I'm probably going to jail for the rest of my twenties.
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And then seeing he wasn't my husband at the time, but my husband waiting there
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after he was supposed to cut and run and leave me and thinking, oh my goodness, what an incredible man.
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And how soon were you married and pregnant? We moved very quick. And how did she reward him?
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A fricking hit piece. It was like, we had known each other for like, I guess I'd met him like eight
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months beforehand, but we only dated for like five months. What did your ex tell you that he was
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looking for in an ideal relationship? So this is something I think about a lot
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also, cause I spend a lot of time online talking about what I wanted. So if you wanted to date me,
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you could go look up exactly the things I would want to hear. You could go look at my Twitter
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timeline, my YouTube. And he told me. Oh my gosh, this is a problem. And I'm just going to say this firsthand.
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I never wanted to date somebody that knew my stuff. It's just too much. It's like, okay. And I've heard
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other YouTubers talk about this. It's not a fair fight when you know everything about me and I know
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nothing about you makes me so uncomfortable. It does. I'm like, you know, because streaming in a way,
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it's like a private, it's like, I know it's public, but sometimes it feels private.
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I don't like when it's like brought up, you know, I don't, I never liked when to date somebody that knew
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my stuff. And there were even times where like someone would tell me they watched and I'm like,
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I got a balance. I'm not doing that. I didn't care if they were like, and they'd seen my shorts,
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but if I'm like, yeah, I know this is the, yeah. Now they're saying in the chat, I don't know your
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stuff. Oh my God. It's too, you just can't salute Pearl expose these fake trap 304s. Thank you.
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Everything I wanted to hear. I want to have a fan, the most public private job ever. I know
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it's something you never, you never think about Emily. I want to stay at home, but I don't think
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he manipulated her the way she's going to like paint this. I'd like to clarify. I just, it's almost
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like, okay. Because when you meet someone, it's like, you share a little, they share a little,
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and then they, all of a sudden they have everything I think, you know, so