Pearl - April 02, 2025


Learning How To LEGALLY Defend MYSELF! w⧸ @TheBrancaShow


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In this episode, we talk about self defense and how to properly defend yourself with a gun. We also talk about how to shoot a gun and what it's like to be a police officer in a gun shop.

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00:00:00.000 Good firing grip. Always a good firing grip. Finger high on the frame.
00:00:04.720 Yep.
00:00:08.160 And now this gun has a round in the chamber.
00:00:11.600 We can probably confirm that. You see the bullet in there?
00:00:14.360 They call this a thumb safety because you hit it with your thumb.
00:00:17.200 When you see red, when it's down, the gun will fire when you press the trigger.
00:00:22.780 When it's up, the gun is not supposed to fire when you press the trigger.
00:00:26.420 But it might anyway, because safety is malfunctioned.
00:00:30.000 So don't rely on that. The four rules still apply.
00:00:32.820 You're going to put the red dot on something.
00:00:34.920 Lean forward a little bit. So kind of slightly leaning forward, not off balance.
00:00:39.040 But you're waiting a little bit forward. Instead of leaning backwards away from the gun,
00:00:41.920 the gun absolutely cannot hurt you. Like this.
00:00:45.540 Yep. That looks pretty good. See the little gap there?
00:00:48.620 So if you could just fill those gaps in, it'll be better for you.
00:00:52.420 It doesn't matter with this gun, but a higher caliber gun might make a difference.
00:00:56.420 Is that on it?
00:00:59.920 Yeah.
00:01:00.060 Okay. Press the thumb safety down.
00:01:02.820 And now you can put your finger on the trigger and just very slowly increase pressure.
00:01:09.040 Can I see it in?
00:01:09.880 Yeah, you can see it in the square.
00:01:11.440 There you go.
00:01:11.820 This is my grand stallion of a car.
00:01:31.700 um just kidding do i want to give any insights on the documentary so this documentary
00:01:45.460 has taken years off my life really and santiago's life too yeah it tells the story of me going to
00:01:53.620 england and basically i became famous overnight i was playing volleyball i had this silly little
00:02:02.340 youtube channel on the side and i decided that it would be fun to have my friends come over and talk
00:02:09.220 about you know different relationship issues feminism and i would just bring over random 1.00
00:02:16.500 people into my living room well one day i look at my youtube channel in my adsense like one of my
00:02:22.820 videos just went crazy like it blew up and i'm just this random woman playing volleyball in england
00:02:28.820 so we're telling that story and then we're telling the story about how us we got demonetized the tate
00:02:35.540 brothers got thrown in jail uh myron and fresh got demonetized and how whenever you talk about men's
00:02:43.060 issues they censor you they silence you and they ruin your life now we have snow white
00:02:48.980 white we have woke snow white yay like thank god
00:03:02.980 all right guys today we are at the fox valley range and i have my friend andrew from law and
00:03:22.020 self-defense hey great to see you great to see you and today we are gonna learn how to legally defend
00:03:28.580 yourself or as they say legally shoot somebody andrew is going to educate us on how to properly defend
00:03:36.180 yourself so you don't go to jail absolutely our tagline is have a gun so you're hard to kill
00:03:41.780 know the law so you're hard to convince i've shot a gun once or twice in my life so today's the third
00:03:49.300 time i'm gonna try a couple guns today and we're gonna see if i can shoot the target
00:03:54.260 i'm sure she'll do just fine on your right hand side what you have that's important it's going to
00:04:00.340 be maintenance stuff cleaning and then all the way to the wall on your right hand side will be
00:04:05.700 magazine with your pistol follow me real quick you go down here if you're a fan of knives
00:04:21.860 that's what you're going to do
00:04:41.060 hello guys how are you sir good so i've shot quite a bit but my friend here has not maybe not shot a
00:04:46.580 hand gun at all she can't remember if she's ever shot a hand so she'd like to do a little bit of
00:04:51.620 shooting i'm wondering if you have a 22 with a dot on it i think that might be the easiest thing for
00:04:55.860 her to deal with i do have a 22 of a dot on it i also have 22 with just regular iron sight so i got
00:05:00.740 you covered either way i'd like her to cheat first just to get comfortable with the shooting and then 1.00
00:05:05.460 we'll circle back to irons and just in case uh we decide we want to move up from there what do you
00:05:09.940 have like in a nine with a dot i've got a 365 vision that just walked out and we'll be back shortly
00:05:16.900 um i don't know as soon as a uh there's a wall from people in between right there um
00:05:24.820 might be it they only have like five so we get on some clear i think also cleaning can i take a look at the
00:05:30.580 walker um especially just four sides you know but she wants to hide it she can my dad said i could
00:05:47.300 have brought it right yes you could it it's not like bullets no there's nothing but you should you
00:05:55.300 should pretend that there are yes you should always pretend there are if you like when i opened it up
00:06:00.420 there's the barrel and the bolts oh okay i'm fine with this one oh that's kind of cool because then
00:06:10.100 we can just pick a specific thing to shoot at you know what i mean yeah and then if you want a space
00:06:14.980 space alien or one for five minutes
00:06:29.780 okay hold on
00:06:35.780 okay do i look cool always wanted to look cool
00:06:59.300 one more one more door one more door all right it's even more private vip
00:07:05.780 it's good right bottle service yeah we haven't been able to see that one out yet
00:07:13.460 but everything everything's pushed off
00:07:25.460 i don't have my reading glasses on to turn the intensity down just a little bit
00:07:33.780 so is that negative and this is positive okay very good better oh that's nice that's better
00:07:41.780 too good a job okay all right so we have a semi-automatic most semi-automatic pistols the whole slide
00:07:47.700 goes back and forth this one's a little different it has a bolt on the inside here so this is the part
00:07:53.540 that moves back and forth okay instead of the top that's pretty common in 22 caliber pistols
00:08:03.540 the way you grip a semi-automatic pistol
00:08:07.220 is this part of your hand right here gets snugged up in this spot makes sense yeah finger stays up here
00:08:16.340 when you're not shooting off the trigger and you wrap your fingers around
00:08:22.340 like so and where you really want there to be pressure is when this gun fires it wants to rotate
00:08:28.180 like this so this spot wants to rotate backwards like that this spot wants to rotate forwards and up
00:08:34.740 so where you really want to feel pressure it's mostly in your pinky and the back of your hand here like this okay
00:08:40.980 and then when you shoot two-handed you just take this hand you align your thumbs you fill in this curve
00:08:46.900 here with this hand and wrap your other fingers around so both thumbs are pointing at the target
00:08:53.700 like you're shooting with your thumbs and one hand just wraps around the other hand and you don't have
00:08:58.740 space here you just fill it in like that does that make sense yeah okay like this yep and you want
00:09:06.260 to kind of almost push it into the back of your hand so it's nice and snug before you put your
00:09:10.580 second hand on just so you want to have pressure here and pressure there this gun doesn't recoil so
00:09:15.620 you don't have to worry about it but the technique is the same for all handguns yeah perfect perfect
00:09:22.820 i remember it was like this nope this curve of this hand fits in this curve oh i see like that
00:09:30.500 right and then if you look through the glass here you'll see a red dot yeah yeah that's your aiming
00:09:37.460 point you mean a green dot i see a green nope then you're not so if you you may need to rotate it
00:09:45.300 around oh i see oh yeah okay so today everyone the guy's talking about using the iron sights the iron
00:09:54.980 sights would be this thing on the front here okay everyone who's serious about handguns today has one of
00:09:59.380 these on the gun they have a dot on the gun the gun i carry for personal protection every day has a
00:10:03.380 dot on the gun pretty soon guns won't have iron sights anymore for personal protection because these
00:10:09.300 are just so much faster and more accurate so when you're using sights you have to line up the front
00:10:16.500 sight with a little groove in the back sight you have to line everything up then you have to shift your
00:10:21.700 focus here the target looks fuzzy there's a lot going on with the dot all you do is you just put the dot
00:10:28.180 what you want to hit okay you don't you don't really stare at the dot per se you're staring if
00:10:32.820 you were shooting at this you'd be staring at the cue and the dot would just kind of happen to be
00:10:37.540 there okay does that make sense so take the gun again get that same grip get this nice and tight
00:10:43.860 you don't want any space here get that hand nice and tight here perfect right yep second rule is you
00:10:49.460 never point the muzzle at anything you're not willing to destroy so if we were i'm not going to do it here
00:10:56.820 because they might get mad at me but if i were holding this gun like this and moving around this
00:11:00.420 space around you guys i would always be pointing the gun in the one direction away from you here at
00:11:07.140 the range this is always the safe direction so if i wanted to turn talk turn to talk to santiago
00:11:13.380 i would rotate my body and not the guy and not the gun make sense the third rule is touch the trigger
00:11:20.340 until you're ready to make a loud noise okay so that's why i told you to lift the gun your finger is
00:11:25.460 up here high on the frame part of that is because say you were to trip or be surprised or shocked we
00:11:30.820 tend to clench our hands automatically when that happens if your finger's up here and you clench your
00:11:34.980 finger a little bit it's no problem if your finger is here and you clench your hand a little bit you
00:11:39.220 might hit the trigger fire a shot when you don't intend to when i can't see through the trigger guard
00:11:44.020 i know their finger is lazy that's a concern that tells me they don't know how to handle a gun and
00:11:49.140 finally know your target and what's beyond your target we're safe on a range here obviously the safe
00:11:53.620 the safe backstop is provided to us so every gun's always loaded don't point it at anything you're
00:11:58.740 not willing to destroy don't touch the trigger until you're ready to fire the gun know your target
00:12:03.140 and what is beyond those are the four rules of gun safety now the magazine the bullets go in here
00:12:08.980 obviously you can see the magazine is angled to align with the grip into which it's going to go
00:12:15.700 the forward part obviously is where the bullet the pointy end of the bullet is to be
00:12:19.860 here's the bullet actually this is a round so a round has four components it has the bullet that's
00:12:26.900 really just the tip part so when people say bullet they're really just talking about that little bit
00:12:30.500 of lead at the end the case is the brass portion the gunpowder is a third part and then there's a
00:12:36.180 primer in the back that ignites the gunpowder here it's a rimfire so there's not a separate component
00:12:41.380 that you see they make it very easy to load these magazines because there's a nice little peg here
00:12:45.460 so i'll let you do it but you pull down on that peg to take a little uh the tension out of the spring
00:12:50.420 and then you just insert the round back end first just like that do you fill it all the way yeah we
00:12:57.620 may as well fill it all that probably holds 10. and now you have a gun with a loaded magazine in it
00:13:06.740 it still has an empty chamber when we release this bolt it's going to pick up around from the magazine
00:13:13.460 and load it into the chamber at that point the gun's ready to fire okay there's two ways to do
00:13:18.260 it you can push this button down that'll release the bolt to go forward or you could pull the bolt
00:13:24.340 back and let it go but don't baby it forward again so if you pull it back just open up your hand and
00:13:31.460 let it go good firing grip always a good firing grip finger high on the frame yep
00:13:37.300 and now this gun has a round in the chamber we can probably confirm that you see the bullet in there
00:13:46.500 they call this a thumb safety because you hit it with your thumb when you see red when it's down
00:13:51.780 the gun will fire when you press the trigger when it's up the gun is not supposed to fire when you press
00:13:57.940 the trigger but it might anyway because safety is malfunction so don't rely on that the four rules
00:14:04.260 still apply you're going to put the red dot on something lean forward a little bit so kind of a
00:14:12.420 slightly leaning forward not off balance but your weight a little bit forward instead of leaning
00:14:16.180 backwards away from the gun the gun absolutely cannot hurt you like this yep that looks that looks
00:14:22.100 pretty good see a little gap there so if you could just fill those gaps in it'll be better for you it
00:14:27.940 doesn't matter with this gun but a higher caliber gun it might make a difference and are you comfortable
00:14:34.580 you pick the card you put the dot on it okay now press the thumb safety down and now you can put your
00:14:46.660 finger on the trigger and just very slowly increase pressure
00:14:50.100 that's pretty good you hit the knife
00:15:03.700 so lean forward a little more and you're kind of leaning back
00:15:08.180 you scared me a little bit
00:15:12.180 uh i'm gonna go for eight
00:15:20.100 oh
00:15:28.740 I have a cross, so if you do two rows, you know you've got ten. 0.77
00:15:51.740 Do you mind if I fire a couple shots?
00:15:53.740 Yeah, go ahead. 0.58
00:15:58.740 We're all in the same group though, right?
00:16:03.740 The gun's accurate, but the dot's not properly aligned.
00:16:10.740 And we know that it's the sights and it's not the shooter because all my shots were in that same little group.
00:16:17.740 So if I had the adjustment tool, I would adjust the sight a little bit, raise it up a little bit.
00:16:21.740 It's anxious about the gunshot, and as they're pressing the trigger, they push the barrel down.
00:16:27.740 Probably.
00:16:28.740 Right?
00:16:29.740 What you want when you're shooting is you almost want it to be like a zen-like experience.
00:16:32.740 Like, you don't know when the gun's going to go off.
00:16:34.740 You're just slowly increasing pressure, increasing pressure.
00:16:38.740 The gun goes off, and it's actually a surprise.
00:16:40.740 But when you do that correctly, you don't drive the gun down.
00:16:44.740 That I think?
00:16:45.740 Yep.
00:16:46.740 It's down.
00:16:47.740 You can always rest your thumb on it if you want to make sure it's down.
00:16:52.740 And then I'm gonna...
00:16:53.740 Take a spot and lean forward a little bit.
00:16:55.740 You have a bad habit of leaning backwards.
00:16:56.740 Yeah.
00:16:57.740 You want to lean forward.
00:16:58.740 You want to dominate that muzzle. 0.94
00:17:00.740 I'm gonna go for the choke. 1.00
00:17:01.740 Choke. 0.93
00:17:02.740 That's really good.
00:17:03.740 You were shooting at the jack, I presume.
00:17:04.740 Yeah.
00:17:05.740 Yeah.
00:17:06.740 So, just to put this in context, right, you've never shot a handgun before. 0.97
00:17:31.740 If this was a bad dude, all those bullets would have hit him in the heart. 0.95
00:17:35.740 Yeah. 0.99
00:17:36.740 Right?
00:17:37.740 Those are all stop shots.
00:17:38.740 Yeah.
00:17:39.740 So, it's not that hard to shoot a gun for self-defense purposes.
00:17:41.740 Now, if you were in a match, you'd literally be trying to put every one of these bullets
00:17:45.740 into the same hole.
00:17:46.740 So, when I shot this round as a kid, I was using a rifle, small-bore rifle competitor.
00:17:51.740 The bullseye, the ten ring, was the same diameter as the bullet.
00:17:55.740 And you were trying to put every single bullet through that same hole every time.
00:17:59.740 You don't need that level of precision for self-defense.
00:18:01.740 The heart and the important vessels coming out of it are about the size of a fist.
00:18:05.740 If you can hit a fist, and this is self-defense range, right?
00:18:08.740 Right.
00:18:09.740 You're telling this guy, stay, I was gonna curse, stay the heck back.
00:18:13.740 I'm ready to defend myself.
00:18:14.740 And if he doesn't, you could put this entire magazine into that space.
00:18:18.740 Right.
00:18:19.740 So, that's why, you know, some people will advocate, you know, learn martial arts, learn
00:18:24.740 other things.
00:18:25.740 And I think that's great.
00:18:26.740 I do martial arts, too.
00:18:27.740 But if you're a typical woman who's gonna be much smaller and weaker than the man who's 1.00
00:18:32.740 probably attacking her, you would need 20 years of martial arts to be equal, given 0.98
00:18:36.740 his disparity of size and strength.
00:18:38.740 That's great.
00:18:39.740 So, that, I was thinking of that woman that just, her trial's going right now, where she 1.00
00:18:43.740 got attacked on a run by an illegal immigrant.
00:18:47.740 Right, he killed her. 1.00
00:18:48.740 Yeah, he killed her. 0.97
00:18:49.740 Right.
00:18:50.740 Can, do you think, is there a way to safely, like, bring guns when you're working out and,
00:18:56.740 like, running?
00:18:57.740 Because I see that a lot where women get, like, taken on, um, runs or, like, alcohol. 1.00
00:19:02.740 Yeah, absolutely.
00:19:03.740 So, you can have a, like, I have a fanny pack that I use when I'm traveling on my motorcycle,
00:19:08.740 because I don't like to wear it on the bike in case I crash.
00:19:10.740 I don't want a big piece of metal on my body.
00:19:12.740 Uh, but there's all kinds now of, uh, jogging.
00:19:14.740 It's like an elastic strap you can wear around your midsection.
00:19:17.740 Put a little compact gun in there and just pull your shirt over it.
00:19:20.740 Nobody knows you have it.
00:19:21.740 But if you need it, the gun is there in less than a second.
00:19:32.740 And George Zimmerman grabs it first, fires one shot.
00:19:41.740 When the police get there, the police got there two minutes later.
00:19:44.740 Because remember, George was on the phone telling them to send a cop earlier, right?
00:19:48.740 So the police arrive almost right after the shot's fired.
00:19:51.740 And, uh, they took a photo of George Zimmerman at the scene.
00:19:57.740 His face is bloody.
00:19:59.740 The back of his head where it was pounded in the cement is bloody.
00:20:01.740 His nose is sideways on his face.
00:20:04.740 Okay?
00:20:05.740 These are the kind of tricks they pulled.
00:20:06.740 When you see this, you're like, 0.98
00:20:07.740 Holy that guy got the crap beat out of him. 0.91
00:20:10.740 When the prosecution is obliged to send that photo to the defense, 0.95
00:20:14.740 it's part of discovery.
00:20:15.740 They sent the defense a black and white version of the photo.
00:20:18.740 So you couldn't see the blood.
00:20:20.740 I can't believe that's what happened.
00:20:24.740 And we know Trayvon Martin was mounted on him because we have eyewitness testimony.
00:20:30.740 George Zimmerman was screaming for his life.
00:20:32.740 So people were looking off their balconies.
00:20:34.740 And then there was an eyewitness right there in the trial.
00:20:37.740 Yep. 0.86
00:20:38.740 No, that was Trayvon Martin mounted on top of him, beating the crap out of him. 0.80
00:20:41.740 Ground and pound. 1.00
00:20:42.740 These race hustlers have to be such bad people because they're evil. 1.00
00:20:47.740 They're evil. 1.00
00:20:48.740 That's such, that's terrible. 0.92
00:20:50.740 Oh my God.
00:20:51.740 And every picture you saw in the news of Trayvon Martin was him as a cute little 13 year old.
00:20:55.740 What was the one that was like, I thought, I'm getting the cases confused because I think
00:21:00.740 I was a teenager when a lot of these happened.
00:21:02.740 So I just, I don't know, I wasn't paying attention.
00:21:05.740 But the, there was one where someone went into a house and like, I just remember I saw it on,
00:21:12.740 like they thought the kid was breaking in and I guess he was drunk.
00:21:16.740 But I'm questioning if maybe he wasn't drunk and he was breaking in because it was a race thing too.
00:21:23.740 So there was one, I'm blanking on her name.
00:21:29.740 It happened in Detroit.
00:21:30.740 Theodore Wafer was the guy, was the defendant.
00:21:33.740 Theodore Wafer.
00:21:34.740 He lived in Detroit, a very bad part of Detroit, as if there's a good part, a white guy. 0.95
00:21:39.740 He's in his home.
00:21:40.740 It's three o'clock in the morning.
00:21:42.740 He's sleeping on a barco lounger in his living room.
00:21:44.740 And he hears someone banging on his front door, like super hard.
00:21:48.740 And he thinks he's the victim of a home invasion.
00:21:50.740 Lots of home invasion in this community.
00:21:53.740 So he's got a shotgun, a pistol grip shotgun.
00:21:55.740 There's no shoulder stock.
00:21:56.740 It's just the pistol grip and the shotgun.
00:21:58.740 He grabs that.
00:21:59.740 He walks up to his front door where the banging is happening.
00:22:02.740 And he opens up his front door.
00:22:04.740 There's a screen on the other side.
00:22:05.740 But he opens up his front door to look outside.
00:22:07.740 And he's holding the shotgun by the pistol grip.
00:22:10.740 And a shape lunges like sideways across the frame of the door.
00:22:14.740 And he fires the shotgun. 0.97
00:22:16.740 Turns out it was a young black woman who was extremely drunk. 1.00
00:22:19.740 Thought she was at a house where a party was supposed to be happening. 0.76
00:22:22.740 And they were not letting her into the house as a prank.
00:22:24.740 So she's banging on the store to get into the house. 1.00
00:22:28.740 The one I'm thinking of, he was upstairs and the person was downstairs.
00:22:32.740 And he shot him from upstairs.
00:22:34.740 I can't remember what it was.
00:22:37.740 I just remember watching it on TV.
00:22:39.740 Like that was the only one I was like.
00:22:42.740 But I could see in these situations that they would fake it.
00:22:47.740 Like maybe he wasn't drunk.
00:22:48.740 He was breaking in.
00:22:50.740 Because they keep manipulating all the facts of these cases.
00:22:53.740 Yeah.
00:22:54.740 Right.
00:22:55.740 So they always cast it in that light.
00:22:56.740 With Trayvon Martin, they said, why was Trayvon Martin killed?
00:22:59.740 Why did George Zimmerman call the police?
00:23:01.740 Because he was a young black man walking around with iced tea and candy.
00:23:04.740 That's why.
00:23:05.740 Is that why?
00:23:06.740 Or is it because he had burglar jewels on him and he was peering in people's windows.
00:23:11.740 In the rain.
00:23:12.740 Hey Pearl.
00:23:13.740 Hello.
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00:23:22.740 Welcome to the...
00:23:23.740 Very nice.
00:23:24.740 So I don't want you to get too excited.
00:23:29.740 But you are our first in studio guest.
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00:23:33.740 Of course.
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00:23:48.740 Okay.
00:23:49.740 Five, four, three, two...
00:23:54.740 What up guys?
00:23:57.740 Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily.
00:24:01.740 Welcome to the show.
00:24:03.740 Today I have a special guest on the show.
00:24:05.740 Our first ever in studio guest.
00:24:07.740 Welcome to the show Andrew Brinkham.
00:24:09.740 Thank you very much.
00:24:10.740 It's a pleasure to be here.
00:24:12.740 He is the world's leader, the country's leading expert in self defense law with over
00:24:17.740 25 years of experience and you have the YouTube channel Law of Self Defense.
00:24:21.740 I do.
00:24:22.740 More than 30 years of experience.
00:24:23.740 I keep getting older every year.
00:24:25.740 And you are the author?
00:24:27.740 Of our best selling book, The Law of Self Defense Principles, which by the way, we give
00:24:32.740 away for free at lawofselfdefense.com slash free book.
00:24:36.740 And so you teach men and women how to legally shoot somebody.
00:24:43.740 That's one way of putting it.
00:24:45.740 I prefer to say that I teach people where the legal boundaries are for the use of force.
00:24:50.740 So they do have to defend themselves.
00:24:53.740 They're not only well positioned to win the physical fight, which is the most important
00:24:56.740 thing, but they're also well positioned to win the legal fight that happens.
00:24:59.740 You don't want to survive the physical fight only to spend the rest of your life in a cage
00:25:02.740 someplace.
00:25:03.740 You want to be free to live your life with your family and all the things that make life worth living.
00:25:07.740 And so what's interesting, because guys, we went shooting today.
00:25:10.740 So we went shooting and I've spent kind of the day hanging out with Andrew.
00:25:15.740 And you said something earlier about many people get convicted even though they're innocent or they didn't do anything on the books wrong.
00:25:26.740 Why is that?
00:25:27.740 Well, part of it is just noise in the system.
00:25:30.740 So specifically in this context, we're talking about good guy cases of self-defense, right?
00:25:34.740 Not criminals just making up self-defense, but someone's had to defend themselves against some kind of attack.
00:25:40.740 They don't really know where the legal boundaries are.
00:25:42.740 They may think they know, but in fact, they generally don't know what they're allowed and not allowed to do.
00:25:47.740 And the system itself is not well suited to deal with good guy cases of self-defense.
00:25:53.740 By the system, I mean the criminal justice system.
00:25:56.740 When you think of that phrase, criminal justice system, the most controlling word in that three word phrase is system.
00:26:04.740 It is a system.
00:26:05.740 It's a machine like a steampunk era machine with giant wheels and gears.
00:26:09.740 It doesn't care about you personally.
00:26:11.740 It doesn't care about fairness.
00:26:13.740 It's just a bureaucratic machine for administering what we call justice, the rules of law to different people.
00:26:19.740 And the second most operative term in that phrase, criminal justice system, is criminal.
00:26:24.740 It's a system that's optimized to deal with criminals.
00:26:28.740 For them, it does a pretty good job.
00:26:30.740 But when you feed a normal law abiding person into that system, it generally doesn't go very well.
00:26:34.740 And because the system's optimized for dealing with criminals, there's at least always a 10% chance that you'll get convicted if I have to put you in front of a jury.
00:26:42.740 That's what we call the justice part of the criminal justice system.
00:26:46.740 10%?
00:26:47.740 That seems so high.
00:26:48.740 It's low.
00:26:49.740 Many criminal defense attorneys will tell you it's higher.
00:26:51.740 Because most criminal defense attorneys or clients are actually criminals.
00:26:55.740 That's the nature of the business.
00:26:57.740 For someone who has a criminal history who's put in front of a jury, they could be completely innocent of this particular charge.
00:27:03.740 They're looking at more like a 50% chance of conviction.
00:27:06.740 So the most common criminal charge we're defending against is aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
00:27:12.740 Okay.
00:27:13.740 We do murder cases.
00:27:14.740 We do all level of cases.
00:27:15.740 But the most common is aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
00:27:17.740 Because what happens is the client was facing something scary, frightening them.
00:27:23.740 And they're carrying a gun, legally carrying a gun.
00:27:26.740 And they pulled their gun out and they pointed it at that person and they said, stay back.
00:27:30.740 I'm prepared to defend myself.
00:27:31.740 Which sounds like perfect self-defense, right?
00:27:34.740 That same conduct checks all the boxes for a criminal charge of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
00:27:40.740 What is assault?
00:27:41.740 It's putting someone else in fear of harm.
00:27:43.740 But what are you doing when you're pointing a gun at someone?
00:27:46.740 You're putting them in fear of harm.
00:27:47.740 You're telling them, I will hurt you if you don't stop doing what's scaring me.
00:27:51.740 It's aggravated because you're threatening them with deadly force harm. 0.81
00:27:54.740 And it's with a deadly weapon because you're doing it with a gun.
00:27:57.740 Collectively, in most states, that's a felony good for 10 to 20 years in prison.
00:28:02.740 Keep in mind, I'm talking about mothers, fathers, people who've never been in trouble with the law a day in their lives,
00:28:07.740 are now looking at a 20 year felony sentence.
00:28:11.740 So we're pretty good at what we do.
00:28:13.740 The cases that really trouble me is the ones where I actually see innocent people being convicted and going to prison.
00:28:19.740 And they tend to be many of the high profile, politically energized cases out there.
00:28:24.740 The George Zimmerman case, the Kyle Rittenhouse case.
00:28:26.740 Now, those two guys happen to get acquitted, but they were at risk of conviction.
00:28:30.740 They would have spent the rest of their lives in jail.
00:28:32.740 Derek Chauvin is another case.
00:28:34.740 There was reasonable doubt in that case, but he got convicted anyway, and he'll die in prison.
00:28:38.740 Can you tell me what the media said about it and what actually happened?
00:28:42.740 Sure.
00:28:43.740 So the way it was portrayed in the media was that George Zimmerman was a white Latino, a phrase invented for his trial.
00:28:50.740 A white Latino.
00:28:51.740 A white Latino. 0.99
00:28:52.740 He was some kind of pseudo white supremacist who saw a 13 year old black boy walking through his community and decided to kill him and shot him dead for the crime of that boy walking around, minding his own business with iced tea and candy. 0.96
00:29:10.740 What actually happened was George Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch volunteer for his community that was beset by a tidal wave of home invasions and burglaries and thefts. 0.69
00:29:20.740 He saw Trayvon Martin, who was not 13 years old, but it was a 17 year old, well muscled high school football player.
00:29:26.740 A street.
00:29:27.740 He was 17.
00:29:28.740 17.
00:29:29.740 Keep going.
00:29:30.740 He got Trayvon Martin was a street fighter.
00:29:33.740 In other words, he engaged in fights in the street as entertainment.
00:29:37.740 We know this because we have video of him fighting on his own cell phone.
00:29:41.740 His chosen technique was to punch people in the face, knock them down and then mount them and beat them into the ground.
00:29:47.740 Well, Trayvon Martin saw that George Zimmerman was on the phone with police reporting a suspicious character, Trayvon Martin. 0.77
00:29:54.740 So he ambushed George Zimmerman, punched him in the face, knocked him down, mounted him, was beating him into the ground, smashing his head into a sidewalk.
00:30:02.740 There's eyewitness testimony for all of this.
00:30:04.740 And in the last desperate moment to save his life, George Zimmerman drew his legally carried pistol, fired a single round that killed Trayvon Martin in lawful self-defense.
00:30:13.740 And then there was all these riots and they made it politically motivated.
00:30:19.740 But somehow Zimmerman still got, like he got acquitted, right?
00:30:23.740 Yeah.
00:30:24.740 When I first looked at the case, I thought, well, surely there must be something from the prosecution here that would suggest guilt.
00:30:29.740 Because everything I'm seeing is totally consistent with lawful self-defense.
00:30:32.740 And there simply wasn't anything.
00:30:35.740 But what was happening was it became an opportunity for a local prosecutor who was having difficulty getting reelected in her black community. 0.99
00:30:44.740 She had prosecuted a couple of cases involving black people that were very unpopular in the community.
00:30:49.740 She was going to lose her reelection.
00:30:51.740 And then she saw the opportunity with George Zimmerman and said, you know what?
00:30:55.740 If I prosecute this guy for shooting that black high school student, I'll be in favor with the black community again. 1.00
00:31:01.740 Now, George Zimmerman was acquitted.
00:31:03.740 So that prosecutor lost that trial.
00:31:06.740 If you define winning as getting a conviction, she didn't get a conviction.
00:31:10.740 But if you properly understand what motivated her, it was not to get a conviction.
00:31:13.740 It was to get reelected.
00:31:15.740 And that worked.
00:31:16.740 When she was going to lose reelection, she prosecuted Zimmerman and she got reelected instead of losing.
00:31:22.740 So, oh, so that's how politics get involved in the law because the prosecutors are elected. 0.65
00:31:30.740 Right.
00:31:31.740 Right. And so then they have to be political.
00:31:33.740 That's correct.
00:31:34.740 So, in fact, the prosecutor in George Zimmerman's area, he was pressured to bring charges against George Zimmerman and he quit.
00:31:41.740 He resigned his job rather than prosecute George Zimmerman.
00:31:44.740 So the prosecutor who ended up taking the case was from a completely different part of Florida.
00:31:48.740 No way.
00:31:49.740 Who flew in to take over that case for political advantage.
00:31:52.740 How can they do that?
00:31:54.740 Because isn't it based on where you are?
00:31:56.740 Yeah, but once the original prosecutor quit, it left the vacuum.
00:31:59.740 It needed to be replaced by somebody.
00:32:01.740 Oh.
00:32:02.740 And she raised her hand and got picked by the governor.
00:32:04.740 Oh, so the governor appointed her to go do it?
00:32:07.740 Essentially assigned her to go into that empty district and take over the prosecutor's role. 1.00
00:32:12.740 And because they made it like a race issue.
00:32:14.740 Right.
00:32:15.740 Then the facts didn't even matter.
00:32:18.740 Right.
00:32:19.740 So there's a cliche in the law and it says if you're a lawyer and the law is on your side, you argue the law to the jury.
00:32:25.740 And if the facts are on your side, you argue the facts to the jury.
00:32:28.740 And if neither the law nor the facts are on your side, you pound the table.
00:32:32.740 And so that whole prosecution was table pounding.
00:32:35.740 The facts were not on their side.
00:32:37.740 The law was not on their side.
00:32:38.740 It was the cleanest case of self-defense I've ever seen brought to trial.
00:32:42.740 Their prospects of actually getting a conviction was shockingly low, probably just that 10%.
00:32:47.740 That's noise in the system.
00:32:49.740 So I don't think they really had an expectation of getting a conviction, although it could, of course, happen.
00:32:53.740 The whole point was for her to win reelection.
00:32:56.740 And in that respect, she won.
00:32:57.740 What do you think about like false accusations?
00:33:00.740 And how can, I don't know, I know it's a little bit off of self-defense, but.
00:33:05.740 No, it's fine.
00:33:06.740 How can men protect themselves from false accusations?
00:33:10.740 Well, you really, you really can't except to not associate with people who might bring false accusations.
00:33:15.740 There's crazy people out there.
00:33:17.740 Don't be in their company. 0.99
00:33:18.740 Don't date them.
00:33:19.740 Don't marry them. 0.99
00:33:20.740 In terms of what I think should happen to people who make false accusations.
00:33:25.740 And we need to be careful because sometimes someone may make a claim that they believe is true, but they just have the wrong person, right?
00:33:33.740 It looks like the person who attacked them, for example.
00:33:36.740 That's obviously not the case if we're talking about people in a relationship who know each other well.
00:33:40.740 Right.
00:33:41.740 But I think that if anybody makes a false accusation about anything, let's use a woman making a false, she knows it's a false accusation of rape against a man. 0.99
00:33:50.740 And she's caught and it's proven she did that beyond a reasonable doubt.
00:33:53.740 She should serve whatever prison sentence that man would have served if her accusation had been believed.
00:33:58.740 What about Kyle Rittenhouse?
00:34:00.740 Another case that was there was literally zero evidence inconsistent with self-defense.
00:34:06.740 And that's important to keep in mind because you don't have to prove you acted in self-defense.
00:34:10.740 The state has to prove you did not act in self-defense and they have to prove that beyond any reasonable doubt.
00:34:15.740 So by like 90% of the evidence, they have to disprove your claim of self-defense.
00:34:20.740 Well, if 100% of the evidence is favorable to self-defense, there's no way they can get a conviction on the legal merits there.
00:34:27.740 Kyle Rittenhouse didn't shoot anybody who was not actively trying to kill him in the moment he shot that person.
00:34:33.740 Every single one of those uses of force was completely lawful.
00:34:36.740 The prosecution had nothing to go on on the law and on the facts.
00:34:40.740 So what did they do?
00:34:41.740 They pounded the table.
00:34:42.740 They made a bunch of smoke and mirrors.
00:34:44.740 They complained about him carrying a rifle in the first place.
00:34:47.740 Sorry, that was completely lawful under the circumstances.
00:34:51.740 They just shout about a lot of things, but there was nothing there in the merits.
00:34:56.740 Kyle Rittenhouse got lucky.
00:34:57.740 He could have been convicted too.
00:34:58.740 It would have been a wrongful conviction, but it could have happened.
00:35:00.740 Thankfully, the jury came back with the right verdict.
00:35:02.740 So do you think all of these cases are disincentivizing men from stepping up in situations where they hypothetically could?
00:35:11.740 So, you know, Kyle Rittenhouse, I'm fairly certain he actually went there to help.
00:35:17.740 He went there to help?
00:35:18.740 Yeah.
00:35:19.740 So he went there to help.
00:35:20.740 In medical training, he brought his first aid kit.
00:35:21.740 Yeah.
00:35:22.740 He was treating people's cuts and abrasions and things like that.
00:35:24.740 And, you know, for, I don't know how long the trial was, but he probably had to put his life on hold.
00:35:28.740 He probably had death threats, you know?
00:35:30.740 Right.
00:35:31.740 I don't know when these people are acquitted, like George Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:35:34.740 So they won, right?
00:35:35.740 They're acquitted.
00:35:36.740 They walk out of the courtroom a free man.
00:35:38.740 They were at risk of conviction.
00:35:41.740 The trials go on for weeks.
00:35:43.740 And in the case of Zimmerman, it was like a year between the event and the trial.
00:35:47.740 So think about it.
00:35:48.740 Take a 25-year-old guy, you're married, you're going to school, you're working a job, and this happens.
00:35:54.740 And now your lawyer tells you, listen, in a year from now, we're going to go to trial, and they're going to decide whether you spend the rest of your life in a cage.
00:36:00.740 What do you do during that year?
00:36:02.740 You still go get your 10 credits that year at the community college?
00:36:05.740 Do you start a family?
00:36:07.740 Do you have a child?
00:36:08.740 Do you do anything substantive?
00:36:09.740 Your life is frozen for that year, and you never get that year back.
00:36:13.740 So even if you have the best possible outcome and you get acquitted, you lost that year of your life forever.
00:36:18.740 In the case of George Zimmerman, he lost everything.
00:36:21.740 He lost his job.
00:36:22.740 He lost his wife.
00:36:23.740 He lost, in a sense-
00:36:25.740 His wife left him?
00:36:26.740 His wife divorced him.
00:36:27.740 No way.
00:36:28.740 And I didn't know George at the time of the trial, but I've come to know George since then.
00:36:32.740 He's just a genuinely nice guy, but he was traumatized.
00:36:35.740 So you hear about George after the trial, after the acquittal.
00:36:38.740 Sometimes you'd see him in the news.
00:36:39.740 He did something crazy.
00:36:40.740 Well, he was a broken man.
00:36:42.740 He had PTSD from that experience.
00:36:44.740 You know, he wanted to be a prosecutor himself.
00:36:46.740 That's what he was going to school for.
00:36:48.740 And so in his own mind, he's the good guy, right?
00:36:51.740 He wants to be a good guy in society, keep society safe from evil predators.
00:36:54.740 And the system tried to put him in a cage for the rest of his life for doing nothing wrong.
00:37:00.740 And how long do you think George Zimmerman would have survived in general population in a Florida prison?
00:37:05.740 Had he been convicted of being a racist murderer of a 13-year-old black boy for having iced tea and candy?
00:37:10.740 Weeks?
00:37:11.740 Weeks?
00:37:12.740 Maybe?
00:37:13.740 Breonna Taylor kind of falls into the category of what I call bad outcome cases.
00:37:17.740 Meaning, you can imagine a shooting that might occur where the person who was killed really deserved it, really had it coming.
00:37:23.740 They were firing bullets at the police and the police were shooting back and they just got killed in a gunfight.
00:37:27.740 That's not really what happened with Breonna Taylor.
00:37:29.740 She was in an apartment with her boyfriend.
00:37:32.740 The apartment was served with a search warrant by the police.
00:37:36.740 They were doing a drug raid, essentially.
00:37:39.740 The police kicked in the door, as the search warrant allowed them to do.
00:37:43.740 And when they came in, Breonna's boyfriend started shooting at the police.
00:37:47.740 He would later say that he thought he was being the victim of a home invasion, which could be true. 1.00
00:37:51.740 Maybe he didn't believe that.
00:37:53.740 In which case, it can be lawful to shoot at the police.
00:37:55.740 If you don't know their police, if you think they're home invaders, you're just defending your home.
00:37:59.740 But, of course, when you shoot at the police, they tend to shoot back.
00:38:01.740 And the police did shoot back and one of those rounds struck and killed Breonna Taylor.
00:38:06.740 Was she trying to harm the police?
00:38:07.740 No.
00:38:08.740 Did the police have a reasonable expectation that the person they were serving the warrant on was trying to kill them?
00:38:12.740 Yes.
00:38:13.740 So their shots fired in her direction at the source of the gun shooting at them was a lawful use of force.
00:38:21.740 She just got caught in the crossfire.
00:38:23.740 So it's not a good death.
00:38:25.740 I mean, nobody wanted her to die.
00:38:27.740 But a lot of times you have these cases where it's technically a legal killing under the law,
00:38:33.740 even though everybody involved wished it had never happened.
00:38:35.740 Two people could be involved in a fight and they both legitimately think they're acting in self-defense.
00:38:39.740 This happens a lot with police on police shootings where they each mistake the other, especially if they're in plain clothes.
00:38:46.740 They're both in plain clothes.
00:38:48.740 They're being told, hey, go find a guy who's walking around with a gun.
00:38:51.740 And they turn a corner and there's a guy with a gun.
00:38:53.740 It's another cop.
00:38:54.740 And they shoot at each other.
00:38:55.740 One of them kills the other.
00:38:57.740 Under the law, it doesn't, the law of self-defense doesn't really care about what was actually happening.
00:39:02.740 It's all about what was your reasonable perception when you fired that shot.
00:39:05.740 And if you had a reasonable perception that you were facing an imminent deadly force threat, you can use deadly force in self-defense.
00:39:11.740 You're not required to be correct in that assessment.
00:39:14.740 We're not required to make perfect decisions in self-defense.
00:39:17.740 We're only required to make reasonable decisions in self-defense.
00:39:20.740 Mistakes are allowed as long as the mistakes are reasonable mistakes.
00:39:24.740 When you're in a situation where you have to use self-defense, like Zimmerman or any of these, you know, the guy on the subway, Daniel Penny.
00:39:36.740 Yeah.
00:39:37.740 When they're in those situations, what is the best way to protect themselves?
00:39:40.740 Well, of course, there's two fights we're talking about, right?
00:39:42.740 There's the physical fight.
00:39:43.740 You have to win the physical fight or nothing else really matters, right?
00:39:46.740 You lose the physical fight.
00:39:47.740 Who cares about the legal stuff?
00:39:48.740 Right.
00:39:49.740 And that really involves what I would call tactical decisions.
00:39:52.740 Like, do you have a gun?
00:39:53.740 Do you have a knife?
00:39:54.740 Do you know how to use them?
00:39:55.740 Do you do some martial art like Brazilian Jiu Jitsu?
00:39:58.740 If you don't train for the physical fight, you're going to lose the physical fight.
00:40:01.740 People don't win because they're going to go, I don't know, crazy mode or something.
00:40:06.740 That's not reality.
00:40:07.740 You don't rise to your aspirations or your imaginary capabilities.
00:40:11.740 Your performance is going to be what you can demonstrate cold on any given day at a range
00:40:16.740 or in a dojo or wherever you prepare for the physical fight.
00:40:19.740 So I would encourage people to do that, prepare for the physical fight.
00:40:22.740 I know personally, I carry a gun every day of my adult life for personal protection.
00:40:26.740 I do BJJ several times a week so I can have a non-gun answer to problems, a barehanded answer
00:40:34.740 to maintain that proficiency myself.
00:40:36.740 So first, you got to do what needs to be done to win the physical fight.
00:40:39.740 The next question is, what can you do to win the legal fight?
00:40:43.740 You want great legal counsel, for sure.
00:40:46.740 And most lawyers are not particularly good.
00:40:48.740 Like any profession, lawyers aren't a bell curve.
00:40:50.740 80% of them are in the middle, they're okay. 1.00
00:40:53.740 10% of them suck. 0.99
00:40:54.740 10% of them are really good. 1.00
00:40:56.740 You want one of the 10% that's really good.
00:40:59.740 But even having done that, it's important to keep in mind that your lawyer is not a magician.
00:41:04.740 He can't turn a bad shoot into a good shoot.
00:41:08.740 Your lawyer is stuck with the facts you give him.
00:41:11.740 If you give him good facts, you'll have a great defense.
00:41:14.740 In fact, you can make yourself super hard to convict.
00:41:16.740 That's what we teach at Law of Self-Defense is how to be hard to convict.
00:41:20.740 But if you give your lawyer bad facts, that's going to be a really, really difficult case
00:41:24.740 to have a good outcome in.
00:41:25.740 Bad facts.
00:41:26.740 Bad facts.
00:41:27.740 So what did you do?
00:41:29.740 Was your conduct actually within the legal boundaries of self-defense?
00:41:33.740 If it was, you're hard to convict.
00:41:35.740 But your lawyer can't change that retroactively.
00:41:37.740 You have to have made the right decisions in the moment when you were defending yourself.
00:41:41.740 How do you know what those right decisions are?
00:41:43.740 Well, with stuff like this.
00:41:44.740 Learn the actual law of self-defense.
00:41:46.740 If you do that and you stay well within the legal boundaries, you're really difficult
00:41:50.740 to convict and you're unlikely, because you're hard to convict, to be charged in the first place.
00:41:54.740 If it's a political ploy, does it matter?
00:41:58.740 Yes and no.
00:41:59.740 So having made the right decisions will not keep you from going to trial if it's a politically
00:42:04.740 energized case.
00:42:05.740 You're going to go.
00:42:06.740 But George Zimmerman went to trial and Kyle Rittenhouse went to trial and they got acquitted.
00:42:11.740 They got acquitted because their use of force was inside the legal boundaries.
00:42:15.740 So is it still important to know the legal boundaries and stay within them in a politically
00:42:18.740 charged case?
00:42:19.740 Yeah.
00:42:20.740 Because if you don't do that, your conviction's easy.
00:42:22.740 You're done.
00:42:23.740 I'm going to come out and be in our first in person.
00:42:26.740 It's a nice studio.
00:42:27.740 Is there a prize?
00:42:28.740 Do I get like a number one medallion or something?
00:42:30.740 No, maybe we'll, you know, we could have like, um, someday we could have like a wall
00:42:35.740 signing or something.
00:42:36.740 Right.
00:42:37.740 For people that come. 1.00
00:42:38.740 I don't know.
00:42:39.740 But, alright guys, thanks so much for watching.
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00:43:07.740 Alright.
00:43:08.740 Is that okay?
00:43:09.740 Yeah.
00:43:10.740 That was good.
00:43:11.740 I am a member of the Audacity Network, by the way.
00:43:12.740 Oh yeah?
00:43:13.740 Thank you so much.
00:43:14.740 I don't listen though.
00:43:15.740 I never have time to actually listen.
00:43:16.740 I'm sure you don't.
00:43:17.740 No.
00:43:18.740 You're strange.
00:43:19.740 When you go, you're going for hours.
00:43:21.740 Verbal threats.
00:43:22.740 That's all evidence from which you're evaluating that you're facing a threat.
00:43:25.740 Exactly.
00:43:26.740 Someone coming through your door is the same kind of evidence.
00:43:28.740 You're not imagining someone's coming through your door.
00:43:30.740 The door's being broken in.
00:43:31.740 Right.
00:43:32.740 So you have a reasonable perception of that threat happening.
00:43:35.740 And that reasonable doubt has to translate to the jury as well.
00:43:38.740 They have to figure, oh well, what would I do in that particular case as well?
00:43:44.740 Yeah, a good way to think about reasonable doubt is something like 90% of the evidence.
00:43:48.740 So for example, the jury could decide, you know what, I think it's more likely than not, this was not self-defense.
00:43:53.740 It's 60% not self-defense.
00:43:55.740 That's still an acquittal.
00:43:56.740 Because beyond a reasonable doubt requires 90%.
00:43:59.740 60% is not enough.
00:44:00.740 Right.
00:44:01.740 Unfortunately, what happens in a lot of cases is the jury's not told this.
00:44:04.740 This is not explained to them until the end of the trial.
00:44:07.740 And you only wait until the end of the trial.
00:44:10.740 By the end of the trial, the jury's already made up their minds what they think the verdict is.
00:44:13.740 Properly, this should be told to the jury at the beginning of the trial.
00:44:17.740 So every piece of evidence they're hearing is getting filtered through that.
00:44:20.740 But a lot of criminal defense attorneys missed that step.
00:44:23.740 And it really screws their clients.