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00:10:30.100because isn't it like five bucks for a lot of these girls nudes like what do you mean the pricing
00:10:34.980well it's what i mean is yeah but the value is there's no value exchange you know it's
00:10:41.800and for the sellers it's creating an unrealistic ability to get rich off of something that's
00:10:49.180providing very little value i think and oh i see you're saying how much money they make is
00:10:54.920ridiculous yeah and it's like so it's not like the individual pricing it's like how much money
00:11:00.740they can make because they have access to more dudes is that what you mean yeah exactly and
00:11:05.280i just think that you know prostitution at least is a an actual an actual exchange sorry someone
00:11:13.060said it should be a non-profit sorry sorry i'm so sorry keep going it's so good i just think like
00:11:18.980the way other countries do it like australia germany like there's a genuine need for prostitution
00:11:24.900and for sex work and all that but um it needs to be the real thing like i just don't like all this
00:11:31.060pseudo parasocial stuff that's going on i think that's bs like if you're gonna be a prostitute
00:11:37.460then be a real prostitute and actually you know suffer the ramifications of that
00:11:43.140just like every other career yeah okay so you're saying they're like avoiding con they're like
00:11:48.260giving it's they're avoiding consequences in a way yeah it's low risk high reward for the
00:11:54.900Exactly. It's way too much in favor of the creator who is, you know, they're really what they're actually benefiting from is the fact that prostitution is illegal.
00:12:06.380They're actually a little cartel on, you know, on that on that on that rule.
00:12:13.840And they shouldn't be getting out there. That's that's an economically ridiculous business model.
00:12:21.180So really, if prostitution was legal, they wouldn't have a business anyway.
00:12:30.640So I'm in my mid-40s, and I come from the generation where DVDs and stuff like that before the internet when you were young.
00:12:41.600And so when I started seeing free corn on the internet, the hub and stuff like that, I thought that that was the ultimate right there.
00:12:50.060and i was wondering like what's gonna be the next if there's so much free corn on the internet like
00:12:55.780what's the next step and guys i had no idea it was gonna be only fans i had no idea like this
00:13:01.380whole concept of a parasocial relationship these guys just give i i couldn't have conceived of this
00:13:07.740when i was young trying to find you know dvds to watch it was crazy like i do you guys um you're
00:13:14.560got friends in sexless marriages do you think they would have it in them to see a prostitute if it
00:13:18.740legal i would say yes yep i think they would actually oh go ahead doug well because uh
00:13:25.300incarceration and and what comes from from incarceration and being arrested is enough
00:13:32.660of a deterrent for most men if that wasn't there a lot of guys would be hitting on prostitutes
00:13:37.940yeah i i strongly think that all these um sting operations and all these things that they've done
00:13:45.380to really like make it make prostitution seem like it's such a taboo thing it's really
00:13:51.680papering over the fact that it's been a pretty mainstream part of any of most societies and
00:14:00.520there's a lot of social gaslighting going on that that's not that that's not the case and I think
00:14:08.040this all this only fan stuff is like it's trying to capture the vapors of of that but it's really
00:14:16.100not doing a good job of it so i think all the the parasites need to go um and anybody who's
00:14:22.900going to actually be in the sex work industry needs to be having sex you know what do you what
00:14:29.380do you guys think of that do you agree disagree indifferent i wouldn't disagree because he's just
00:14:35.460offering solutions but what i would probably alter is the places that it's legal meaning
00:14:39.840prostitution i think corn is also legal i don't think it's outlawed like corn is not outlawed
00:14:45.200there um also you know you got to let the free market be the free market like some people want
00:14:50.200to go to the restaurant and eat and some people want it online and so net net you ain't always
00:14:55.280be able to get up in the beat up car roll down the window ask the girl out the window or go to
00:15:00.860brothel somebody wanted digitally like that's like saying let's do away with freaking uber eats
00:15:05.980and you just got to go to the restaurant like there's many shaped forms of fashions where
00:15:10.060people want to consume a product and then also there is actual free prawn so the guys who go
00:15:16.940and pay want something entirely different most people don't do it they just go click on some
00:15:22.140free website and do their thing so they're asking for something else if they're doing a paywall
00:15:28.140and they're actually paying an actual specific content creator so it's a whole entire different
00:15:33.340thing it's like bro i don't even get it i'm like why don't you just use the free stuff
00:15:37.180they want something else that's why they're paying them you know that crowd is that crowd
00:15:41.260you know what i heard it is it's like a lot of girls on tick tock they do like what i eat in a
00:15:46.060day and just these like you know little cute whatever and you know they just have their link
00:15:51.980in the bio and it's like 50 bucks for their nudes they're like i kind of want to see what she looks
00:15:57.340like naked i don't think i think a lot of it i guess i don't know probably the top spenders are
00:16:02.020probably pretty into it but i think a lot of it like i've heard the when we interviewed the top
00:16:07.500only fans model or whatever she just said it's like a lot of people just want to see the girls
00:16:11.740nudes so yeah i'll leave you at this one point um because pearl i think this might be applicable to
00:16:19.280Some of the stuff you say that, you know, sexual like any like any sexual action act, there's a pricing dynamic, you know, in that that, you know, even if you don't directly if it's not directly, you know, we don't know what it is, but it reverberates throughout the whole market.
00:16:38.360So a lot of times when you talk about like, you know, these women are way overcharging proactive sex, that's partially a function of how inaccessible it is for most people.
00:16:49.840So the people who are going to be the biggest, most against legal prostitution are going to be women unmasked who would have a lot to lose from it being legal.
00:17:01.820So I think a lot of things that you're seeing, both in terms of like OnlyFans, sex work, and then also just in normal marriages are kind of downstream effects of how inaccessible it is for most men.
00:17:14.520That really tilts the scale in favor of women.