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00:00:00.000 women today are wondering if they are in an emotionally abusive relationship and so psychology 0.88

00:00:13.720 today is helping them out apparently according to psychology today emotionally abusive relationships

00:00:22.160 can be hard to detect because the abuse is often nuanced and gradual hello everybody my name is

00:00:29.240 pearl davis and welcome to another episode of pearl daily make sure you like the video on your

00:00:34.100 way in apparently emotionally abusive relationships diminish your sense of self-worth and ability to

00:00:40.480 trust your judgment these relationships are inherently stressful and can impact your mental

00:00:46.260 and physical health think of your body as an informant that communicates to you when things

00:00:51.740 aren't okay, or if you're being harmed. So apparently this woman, Leah Aguirre,

00:00:58.620 a contributor and therapist on Psychology Today says, I am often asked, how do I know if I'm in

00:01:06.800 an emotionally abusive relationship? Ladies, I'm sure. You just would not know. I mean,

00:01:13.440 you got to figure it out. And I always respond with, well, how do you feel in your relationship?

00:01:20.100 This response can be frustrating for those individuals who are looking for a checklist,

00:01:25.820 an itemized list of specific behaviors that can be labeled as abusive.

00:01:30.900 Unfortunately, because emotionally abusive relationships are often complex and more nuanced,

00:01:36.560 the abuse can be hard to detect and put one's finger on.

00:01:40.640 Emotionally abusive relationships often don't start off as abusive.

00:01:45.020 The abuse occurs slowly and gradually, and once trust has been established and the emotions are involved through coercive and controlling behaviors,

00:01:54.680 the emotionally abusive partner creates power and control dynamic that systemically diminishes your sense of self-worth and your ability to trust your judgment and intuition.

00:02:06.780 This can make it hard to see the relationship for what it is.

00:02:11.420 Therefore, it's important to focus on how you are feeling in the relationship physically and

00:02:17.600 emotionally. Now, the reason everybody I'm reading you this article is not because I'm trying to

00:02:22.500 shove some BS psychology down your throat, but I want to show you how women, and I guess men 1.00

00:02:30.140 sometimes, YouTube, no hate speech, not all, not all, not all, get into the wrong type of content

00:02:40.240 and what it does is it rationalizes them leaving relationships

00:02:45.340 and also leaving their husbands and it supplies the therapy industry so this

00:02:54.040 psychology today you know one of the main um search bars at the top is find a therapist in

00:03:01.920 your city or zip code so what are they peddling people to tell your problems to problems you used

00:03:07.600 to work out with your friends, family, and you would go to close relatives and maybe

00:03:12.280 figure it out as a family.

00:03:13.780 The challenge is now people are having one kid.

00:03:16.480 We don't live by extended family.

00:03:18.960 You know, you're kind of shit out of luck.

00:03:20.540 You're on your own.

00:03:22.380 And half of your parents are divorced anyway.

00:03:24.380 You can't go to them.

00:03:26.500 And what happens is they have crazy women in colleges that go study psychology. 1.00

00:03:33.120 And yeah, they set your wife up with a crazy woman to talk to about her problems in your 1.00

00:03:38.740 relationship and they label everything as abusive.

00:03:40.980 And in their words, her words, her words, it's based on how you feel, not a checklist

00:03:51.420 of what is abuse.

00:03:53.500 For example, it says healthy relationships offer you peace and security.

00:03:59.060 Now, as you guys know, this isn't always necessarily the case.

00:04:03.120 You are not always going to feel secure in a relationship.

00:04:07.500 I'll give you guys an example.

00:04:09.680 A woman could be in a healthy relationship with a guy that's very high status.

00:04:14.300 She probably will never feel secure completely because that guy can trade her for another 22-year-old. 0.52

00:04:20.340 Do you think Melania Trump wakes up every day feeling secure every day?

00:04:25.320 And is the insecurity that we feel, is it their fault?

00:04:29.040 I mean, it's not like they put a gun to our head and make us feel insecure.

00:04:34.100 Sometimes we feel insecure anyways, regardless of what they are doing.

00:04:39.120 And so what this therapy website is doing is it's saying the feelings that you have are another person's fault.

00:04:47.600 Now, it also says emotionally abusive relationships are inherently stressful,

00:04:52.420 and your body takes on the stress of your emotionally abusive relationship.

00:04:56.900 below are examples of how the stress of an abusive relationship can manifest in your body

00:05:05.100 and what i've noticed is in a lot of these websites that are selling you something

00:05:09.240 they have a tendency to say that the symptoms are symptoms that most people have or everybody has

00:05:18.900 at some point chronic headaches chronic fatigue digestive issues weight loss hair loss high blood

00:05:25.220 pressure muscle tension back pain inconsistent or irregular periods insomnia poor memory loss

00:05:31.220 and brain fog so now they're going to ask you to tune in to how you are feeling take some time to

00:05:37.540 connect with your body and ask how you're feeling ask yourself the following questions so i guess

00:05:41.700 these questions will let me know am i being abused you know it's not clear so i got to go to my

00:05:49.540 website and i guess you know i'm gonna see based on these questions if i'm being emotionally abused

00:05:59.540 let me see have there been any noticeable changes in my mood or mental state since being in a

00:06:05.220 relationship so if i've had any changes in my mood or mental state since being in a relationship

00:06:14.420 then if I have I've been emotionally abused okay interesting how might I be acting or behaving

00:06:25.400 differently that may indicate that I'm not okay so if I act or behave differently

00:06:31.920 how do I feel around or in the presence of my partner what feelings come up when I think about

00:06:40.600 my partner or relationship? And have there been any noticeable changes in my body or physical

00:06:46.120 health? So what's actually going on here is oftentimes women are married to a guy that we

00:06:52.300 deem as boring. And what happens is we know that they're a good guy. We know it. But, and that guy

00:06:59.260 provides security, but they have to rationalize a reason to leave. So what she's doing or the

00:07:08.000 person writing this or the people she's consulting with are doing is they're married to good men

00:07:12.280 and they need to rationalize a reason to divorce. They know he's not actually abusive so they bring

00:07:19.080 out emotional abuse and it's really just because they married men that they find boring or they

00:07:24.660 didn't like that much because they wanted a kid and they got whatever they wanted and they need

00:07:29.360 a reason to leave and they don't want to look like they're a bad person because if they leave

00:07:33.640 because they're bored, that makes them look like a bad person. If they leave because they were

00:07:38.780 emotionally abused, then that saves their reputation. That is women's driving force, 1.00

00:07:47.800 is our reputation. And when you put it like that, stuff like this makes perfect sense,

00:07:53.340 sort of. I mean, it's still insane. But now, guys, just a quick reminder, if you guys want

00:07:58.760 to me to read your comments questions concerns the audacitynetwork.com we do have our own um

00:08:07.480 chat on here and all you have to do is go to the audacitynetwork.com sign up for our monthly or

00:08:13.720 yearly memberships and i do read your questions and your comments in the chat we don't have any

00:08:18.520 yet so you could be the first one you know while we're live every day and you know most of the time

00:08:23.560 on channels you have to pay for them to read your comment every single time you do a ten dollar

00:08:28.520 super chat lucky for you we're demonetized so if you go onto my website and chat in that chat

00:08:34.600 then it's 10 bucks for the month 80 for the year you can put unlimited chats i mean please don't

00:08:39.880 put essays like within reason okay nobody's abused it so we could keep doing it as long as no one

00:08:45.880 abuses it okay so the next story that we're going to talk about is caitlin clark so caitlin clark

00:08:53.240 is a woman that is playing in the wnba and caitlin clark is a phenomenal basketball player um she

00:09:01.160 but the challenge is she is in a league full of liberal women now these liberal women 0.90

00:09:10.440 are trying to make things political when really it should i would argue be about basketball so

00:09:16.840 she was nominated to be the athlete of the year and at this award ceremony what did they have to

00:09:22.520 bring up. Sexism and racism. Now, as you guys know, women, we do change over time and we often

00:09:32.540 go with what is trendy. So if you have a upper class, it seems like conservative woman in a league 1.00

00:09:41.900 full of lesbians liberals um i'm not surprised when her rhetoric is becoming more liberal 1.00

00:09:53.100 and the reason this actually relates to the stages that women go through in marriage is 1.00

00:09:57.860 oftentimes they start off as a christian conservative woman um and if they're in the

00:10:04.480 wrong friend group get into the wrong content or get a wrong the wrong the wrong people they go

00:10:12.480 through different phases where you know we change so let's for athlete of the year like tremendous

00:10:21.520 yeah you know your announcement for athlete of the year like tremendous incredible positive

00:10:26.660 feedback that's what we've seen across the board there's always going to be some negativity and i

00:10:31.460 feel like you have had to answer more questions than anybody about the intersectionality of race

00:10:37.960 and gender and sexuality in sport because of just who you are and you represent the growth of this

00:10:44.780 thing and even today earlier today Megan Kelly she was saying that you were apologizing for

00:10:51.120 your white privilege and the fact that you wanted to uplift black female athletes and make sure that 1.00

00:10:55.400 they were getting the shine kind of like your pioneers were getting the shine that they deserve

00:10:58.900 and I just want to know how you feel or how you respond to some of those criticisms when you have

00:11:04.680 to deal with something that it's really not your problem like I feel like it's them looking in a

00:11:08.340 mirror a little bit yeah but it still comes down on your shoulders I feel like I always have had

00:11:12.420 really good perspective on everything that's kind of happened in my life whether that's been good

00:11:16.380 whether that's been bad and then obviously coming to the WNBA like I've said I feel like I've earned

00:11:21.020 every single thing that's happened to me over the course of my career but also I grew up a fan of

00:11:25.680 this league from a very young age like my favorite player was Maya Moore like I know what this league

00:11:29.960 was about and like I said like it's only been around 25 plus years so I know there's been so

00:11:35.300 many amazing black women that have been in this league and continuing to uplift them I think is

00:11:39.540 very important and that's something I'm very aware of and like I said like I try to just be real and

00:11:45.100 authentic and you know share my truth and I think that's very easy for me like I'm very comfortable

00:11:49.380 in my own skin um and that's kind of been how it is my entire life yes now we have to think about

00:11:56.580 this from her point of view she recently like let's put ourselves in caitlyn clark's shoes 0.97

00:12:05.780 she knows that the owners of the league are liberal women she knows this she knows that 0.97

00:12:14.020 all of her teammates are liberal women. She knows that if she sprinkles a little 1.00

00:12:24.460 bit of liberal talking points here and there, maybe she'll get beat up less on 1.00

00:12:31.360 the court. Maybe they'll actually put her on the Olympic team. When I think of the

00:12:41.520 incentives here. I can't really blame her for starting to have this rhetoric. Now, does she 1.00

00:12:48.620 believe it? Does she not believe it? I don't know. All I can say is the incentives make sense here.

00:12:57.700 Let's say she has a 20-year career. That's her plan. She wants to play in the WNBA for the next 1.00

00:13:02.880 20 years. And it would make her life 10 times easier if she just sprinkled a little bit of

00:13:11.160 liberalism, pandered a little bit, and then she gets better spots on teams, she gets better 0.99

00:13:22.280 pay.

00:13:23.480 I'm not saying it's right or wrong.

00:13:25.340 You know, it's easy for me to say, working in media, just say what you believe, right?

00:13:29.420 I mean, that's easy for me to say.

00:13:31.440 I mean, I made a career out of saying what I believe, but not everybody's in that position.

00:13:37.580 and many times people go through life and they have to make a choice say what they believe

00:13:45.080 and get fired from their job miss out on opportunities or shut up pander a little

00:13:53.620 bit and make more money and have an easier life and I think a lot of you guys probably relate to

00:14:00.860 that in the chat. I'm sure many of you have been in positions where you've wanted to speak your

00:14:08.180 mind, but you know if you speak your mind, you're going to have consequences. So I'm a little bit

00:14:16.880 more understanding on this. What do you guys think? Let me check the chat.

00:14:22.960 go along to get along no thanks yeah look it many of you i'm sure will just leave the job

00:14:35.220 f this i am not doing corporate america because i'm tired of this bs but for every one of you

00:14:42.020 that quit there's someone that said you know what i'm gonna pander because i would rather do this

00:14:47.700 than go uber choices and trade-offs right and make enough money to tell them to suck my diversity 0.57

00:14:56.620 yeah and you know you see that with celebrities right so celebrities over the years what they'll

00:15:01.780 do when they're younger they'll say you know what i'm not going to comment on politics we saw this

00:15:11.140 with say lebron james when he was younger i don't maybe he did but as far as i remember i don't

00:15:17.180 remember him being this political but when he got a lot of money and he got really good

00:15:21.060 he started saying whatever he wanted same thing with yay you know I think he's gotten more extreme

00:15:26.720 the more f you money he had and he could really say what he wanted you know so um I need you to

00:15:37.460 fix the thing so i can't particularly you know blame her for that and some of you might say that

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00:17:41.700 another guest that is going to come in and speak about the legal system in India so as you guys

00:17:47.160 know this week I did cover a young man who took his life in India because his wife was taking him 1.00

00:17:54.800 or his ex-wife was taking him to court and abusing the legal system there in order to 0.90

00:18:01.760 basically ruin his life and he ends up with a hour and a half video detailing all of the abuse

00:18:11.100 and he ends up taking his life releasing the video and has a long suicide letter saying that

00:18:19.560 he did not wish to commit suicide the only reason he committed suicide was because of the court

00:18:24.200 system. Now, this was much to my surprise because as far as I knew, or at least at one point,

00:18:31.900 I believed this was more of a Western problem. But the more I learn about men's rights and men's 0.99

00:18:38.120 issues, I see that across the globe, they are discriminated against and having these kind of

00:18:42.900 issues. So when I asked on Twitter about experts that I could bring on the show to talk about the

00:18:49.760 issues in the indian family court system one of the accounts that i was referred to was the save

00:18:55.840 the indian family foundation the largest men's rights ngo invited by parliament and today we

00:19:05.520 have him on the show so let's bring him up it says r-e-a-l-s-i-f-f is the account on twitter

00:19:11.680 yeah hi thanks thanks pearl for inviting me hi um could you tell me a little bit more about

00:19:23.800 your background i just have um the twitter handle maybe we could start with okay uh well first we

00:19:29.780 created this NGO 20 years back okay so i joined the movement in 2004 and uh in 2005 we created

00:19:38.100 this NGO as a website and in fact we came across immediately we came across Dr. Warren Farrell's

00:19:44.180 work Paul Elam and a lot of American and Western men's activists we were all you know connecting

00:19:51.220 and of course I could meet them only in 2014 in the international conference on Men's Institute

00:19:58.420 yeah so so of course my personal background is I worked in tech industry I was an automotive

00:20:05.140 software designer in bosch both both in india and germany and i was also working as a manager in

00:20:14.900 dulex packard in the r d the printer department yeah so that is my background and then of course

00:20:22.340 i quit my job and also as joint startups i mean i created my own startups and of course i started

00:20:28.980 running this organization same indian family foundation so how did you um get involved was

00:20:35.620 that something you went through personally did you you were taken to family i i i went through

00:20:40.900 something personally and i got uh red filled uh in in getting that reality what is going on and

00:20:48.580 i was shocked what was going on because in those days there was mandatory arrest law for domestic

00:20:54.100 violence the whole family can be arrested the man the man's parents his siblings his brothers and

00:21:00.740 sisters maybe the sister's minor daughter as well everything everybody will be torn in prison

00:21:07.220 on made one line or two line complaint by a woman okay and that is i'm talking about 2004 or 2005.

00:21:14.740 of course we got it changed but here is what you you know what i'm i'm explaining here that you

00:21:20.340 said right there is a perception that all these radical stuff and feminism work stuff is only a 1.00

00:21:26.500 western problem and feminism is really needed in india or maybe china and africa and middle eastern 1.00

00:21:33.700 countries that is not really true and the western media is throwing a lot of blue pills on on the

00:21:40.820 mass of people right so that's the problem and that's what i want to address yeah so what do

00:21:48.180 What do you feel like the media gets wrong?

00:21:50.940 What are they not aware of?

00:21:52.940 No, no.

00:21:53.940 They are aware of everything.

00:21:55.940 They are just running their agenda, okay?

00:21:59.440 Like CNN, BBC, Guardian and New York Times and everybody, they have a completely ideological

00:22:06.500 agenda and they are spreading this narrative.

00:22:10.500 About India, they are Indian men.

00:22:12.120 They are writing stuff about patriarchy, misogyny, male-dominated society, everything since last

00:22:18.120 50 years, 50 years.

00:22:20.080 There are so many fake stories.

00:22:22.240 And then there are so many think tanks also.

00:22:25.460 You know, they churn a lot of fake research

00:22:27.800 about India and Southeast countries or African countries

00:22:31.680 and all these countries.

00:22:32.740 And then they use the United Nations

00:22:34.980 to do all kinds of experimentation.

00:22:37.120 So, for example, there is a big narrative

00:22:40.000 that in India, the women, 0.99

00:22:41.880 young women used to be burned by their in-laws. 1.00

00:22:44.280 That's a huge narrative.

00:22:45.300 It was in Oprah in 2001, and they called Bangalore City

00:22:50.640 as the bride-burning capital, okay? 0.99

00:22:53.660 But then we found that that entire thing was a hoax.

00:22:57.180 That entire thing was a lie and a hoax.

00:22:59.740 So there are so many, so many wrong stuff

00:23:02.720 or false stuff, narratives are being built,

00:23:05.060 and they are continued even now.

00:23:06.500 Like India has been called the rape capital and all that.

00:23:09.220 So there's a lot of narrative going on.

00:23:11.200 And unfortunately, people who are in right wing

00:23:13.520 conservative even they are you know they buy it because it is so powerful so the way could you

00:23:22.240 tell me more about how the legal system works in india so i because when i went there like a decade

00:23:28.800 ago um but i didn't know too much about you guys have different like states is it similar to the

00:23:38.160 us where you have different states i just remember it is similar and in what way it is different okay

00:23:45.280 uh it is similar to u.s states however our federal laws are more stronger the laws are not state

00:23:52.240 specific okay the family laws are more federal that means it's the same law all over the country

00:23:58.320 the state whereas in usa you go to florida you have one set of family laws and you go to why

00:24:04.240 ohio it can change right so there is a difference but in india it is all like a uniform law across

00:24:10.640 the country that is one important thing the other thing is the indian judges of supreme court they

00:24:16.000 retire and there is somebody called a chief justice okay they retire a date of 65 and then we don't

00:24:22.720 call the state top courts as a supreme court we call them high court that's different and so we

00:24:28.720 have a hierarchy like the smaller courts then the high court at the state level only one high court

00:24:33.280 first state and then we have the supreme court okay and you can continue appealing even in a

00:24:38.480 matrimonial dispute you can go to supreme court you can go to the supreme court for a matrimonial 0.94

00:24:44.480 dispute yes yes yes that's strange right wow yeah so it's interesting you guys have different

00:24:51.520 languages in different states right isn't that true yeah because english is common yeah no but

00:24:57.680 But you know, India is a predominantly English,

00:25:00.620 so India is an English, it's an official language,

00:25:03.300 but its language is not really an issue.

00:25:05.420 The real problem is we have 15 million pending court cases.

00:25:11.380 So it will take us a couple of centuries

00:25:14.220 to clear all the pendency of all those cases,

00:25:17.180 unless we use something like an AI

00:25:20.160 in a really disruptive way,

00:25:22.100 which I think is unlikely to happen

00:25:24.180 because the system is also highly corrupt.

00:25:26.620 And we don't have no false divorce,

00:25:28.540 so a contested divorce can take six to seven years 0.65

00:25:31.860 or eight years.

00:25:33.220 And the alimony, India is, by the way,

00:25:35.740 India is actually not a patriarchal country or misogyny,

00:25:39.060 but it is a highly gynocentric country.

00:25:41.460 That means women and women's, 1.00

00:25:43.340 women are put at a pedestal, if you visited India, right, 1.00

00:25:45.880 you would see directly, indirectly,

00:25:47.900 women are literally worshiped, you know? 1.00

00:25:50.300 Our culture is like that.

00:25:52.140 Of course, there is a balance,

00:25:53.580 but it is not like completely one-sided.

00:25:56.580 Now, the narrative often in the society is that

00:26:01.920 if there is a divorce, a woman's life is destroyed. 1.00

00:26:05.420 That is that very traditional kind of a narrative.

00:26:08.180 That is why they expect the man

00:26:09.960 to pay a huge sum of aliments.

00:26:13.360 You know, it can be like five to six times

00:26:16.140 his annual income, you know, imagine that.

00:26:19.460 Like five to six years of not saving,

00:26:22.040 it's an annual income, that's what the demands are made

00:26:25.440 by the society and by the, let's say,

00:26:27.480 social people in the society, the immediate,

00:26:30.300 or the courts, right?

00:26:31.840 Now, how can a man pay five to six times of his income?

00:26:36.180 Right?

00:26:37.020 It will take like maybe 20 years to earn that money.

00:26:39.500 He can't pay, he'll be bankrupt, right?

00:26:41.700 Then the man is told, why don't you tell your parents

00:26:44.080 to sell their properties or something and give us money

00:26:46.660 and why don't you get a loan?

00:26:48.600 Otherwise, they file all these false cases

00:26:52.640 of domestic violence on the man.

00:26:55.000 So it's basically an industry, false case industry, that is run by the lawyers and the judges, judicial system.

00:27:03.080 And do you guys have the same immunity for judges and prosecutors there that we have in the U.S.?

00:27:08.380 Yes. We have severe levels of immunity.

00:27:10.780 In fact, it's much more than, you know, I can't criticize a judge, a particular judge.

00:27:15.560 I will get contempt of court. I will be going to prison for a month.

00:27:18.300 um and then is that why because one thing when i first started my show um i would have people come

00:27:26.700 on and argue that like india was the country i would hear about the most is they would say we

00:27:32.140 they don't have any of these relationship issues because their divorce rate is very very low

00:27:38.620 so is it low because it takes six years to get a divorce no no no no no that i mean i

00:27:45.420 clarify the data because we are doing research for swallow india's divorce rate is around six

00:27:52.540 percent i mean divorce and separation rate whereas there is a lot of fake stuff uh that's going on

00:27:59.500 that is less than one percent because that is 20 year old data let me tell you i am 52 right now

00:28:06.300 at the age of 30 for you know in my first 30 years of my life i only knew two people who

00:28:13.340 who are divorced, okay?

00:28:15.820 I only knew two people who were divorced

00:28:18.500 for 30 years of my life,

00:28:20.900 till the year, let's say, 2001.

00:28:24.300 So divorce is a very recent phenomenon,

00:28:26.780 I mean, last two, three decades, like that.

00:28:29.380 So, however, it is rapidly increasing, okay?

00:28:32.700 And I'll tell you, in certain groups or families or regions,

00:28:36.700 divorce rate is as high as 33%, okay?

00:28:40.820 okay so the data is old and so you're saying the first half of your life you only knew two people

00:28:48.580 that got divorced wow what was that cultural shift like that had to have been um because i mean i've

00:28:55.540 seen it in america but my whole life you always knew someone that was getting divorced so it

00:29:00.180 wasn't um i can't imagine going through life this way you know you heard of the proud stuff right

00:29:07.940 the true uh you heard of the fraud fraud stuff right we have lived that life we have seen our

00:29:12.740 parents as the fraud okay so so i have lived that life you know i know how it feels however

00:29:20.260 those people in those days they were not getting divorced uh not because you know the divorce

00:29:25.860 courts divorce laws were not friendly it was not easy to get divorced or go to court the other

00:29:30.900 problem was that the man and the woman were financially dependent on each other like poor

00:29:35.940 people do not get divorced you know because because you know you you are surviving on each

00:29:41.380 other for money right you don't want to end up destitute okay it can happen right so so so that's

00:29:49.140 how the country becomes more affluent uh you know people will will have more choices yeah

00:29:56.500 got it so i'm curious have dating apps affected india at all has um like our people oh no okay

00:30:05.940 Not really. Not really. Whether it's an arranged marriage or it is a love marriage or a dating marriage, the risk of divorce and separation is equal.

00:30:13.820 Oh, it is? Okay. So can you tell me a little bit more about this case that we've been covering?

00:30:21.100 So it's received in or now. I mean, I'm covering and I'm in America.

00:30:25.300 So do you see it being effective? Like, has it gotten attention in India?

00:30:31.320 Like, what has been the ramification of this video?

00:30:35.440 it has got massive attention in print media tv media the top tv channels uh let's say republic

00:30:42.480 or uh india today and uh times now these are all top uh top tv channels then and cnn's equivalent

00:30:50.880 cnn 18 and all that they all have covered it several days so it's like a top story going on

00:30:56.480 for last 48 hours and do you think um like have there been any arrests made um can she even be 1.00

00:31:04.480 prosecuted for like false claims or looking into the judge you know when man when a man dies when

00:31:13.840 a man dies he gets murdered he gets murdered by his wife or this kind of a situation there's a

00:31:19.840 chance that she may be arrested she may be in the prison for 14 days or so that's it after that

00:31:26.640 nothing much happens she gets released under bail she may right now apply for anticipatory bail which

00:31:32.960 may get rejected but you know generally uh you know for men this is not that stringent and they

00:31:39.680 are quite lenient so the consequences for this kind of a woman are not high okay and what and 0.99

00:31:48.000 there is one more ironic point all the false cases he filed on the on the man they will continue

00:31:55.200 running against his parents so he's dead but his parents have to keep facing those false cases

00:32:01.600 for next couple of years wow because all these false domestic cases are filed on the parents

00:32:09.080 as well so their son is dead but the parents will be running around those go and that's because of

00:32:15.220 the dowry law right the there's some law with domestic indian domestic violence law they

00:32:21.960 consider the whole family you know because india used to have a joint family system

00:32:26.980 So even India has two domestic violence laws, by the way.

00:32:30.540 So one is the law related to dowry or cruelty,

00:32:33.500 which was actually before the American domestic violence law. 0.99

00:32:37.480 This law was passed in 1983.

00:32:39.160 The American domestic violence law, VAWA, was passed in 1994.

00:32:43.740 So we are ahead of USA.

00:32:45.560 And then in 2005, India got more Joe Biden-style domestic violence law,

00:32:52.380 which Joe Biden drafted.

00:32:53.660 So we have two domestic violence laws, okay? 0.98

00:32:56.180 One has restraining orders and all that, which is recent,

00:33:00.160 but the earlier one, which is more related

00:33:02.380 to dowry and cruelty, which is 1983, yeah.

00:33:06.720 Are you guys seeing the same trends there

00:33:09.640 when it comes to women not having children,

00:33:13.240 women getting educated, is that, 1.00

00:33:15.620 it's all the same in India, okay.

00:33:18.420 I mean, the age of marriage of women,

00:33:21.940 in every decade, it has shifted by four or five years.

00:33:26.180 So let's say 15 years back, I will be surprised if I hear people marrying after 30.

00:33:32.300 People used to get married, I mean, women used to get married around 24, 25. 1.00

00:33:37.080 Now, average woman marries 28, 30, kind of. 0.94

00:33:40.720 So the age of marriage of women is shifting due to a lot of government policies as well 0.79

00:33:46.460 because to control the population, they are encouraging women in this way to, you know, 0.99

00:33:51.180 because Indian population, they are trying to control just like what they did in China. 1.00

00:33:56.180 Okay, well, is there anything else that you think an American audience should know about India or about this case that you think is important?

00:34:07.240 Yeah, about this case, I would like to say that just half an hour before committing suicide, he tweeted to Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

00:34:16.640 So he felt that there is some hope for men as long as there is Elon Musk and Trump doing something.

00:34:23.320 so just imagine in a distant place like india uh there are men who are counting on them so that

00:34:29.000 tweet is there in the i will share it so and he's he uploaded a video that entire video in rumble

00:34:36.840 uh because he believed that no nobody will there will not be any censorship so so this censorship

00:34:41.960 issue free speech is true and all these are universal uh i mean that is what we are all

00:34:47.480 facing and we were all you know banned and shadow banned and de-platformed from many of the social

00:34:54.280 media so so that's what i can say that is the problem is same same that we have been facing

00:34:59.720 you know one of our supreme court chief justice which who just retired just now he said indian

00:35:05.640 constitution is a feminist document he said that needs a what a feminist what indian constitution 0.90

00:35:14.680 is feminist the constitution is feminist wow well thank you very much he was a harvard educated

00:35:25.400 he was a harvard educated you know he's he had a harvard phd okay so he was completely he had

00:35:31.080 one really always yeah so he had the that's what we say wow well thank you very much for coming on

00:35:40.280 um we'll definitely have you back um for different cases so thank you very much um

00:35:46.360 and where can can you tell them where they can find you your youtube website whatever uh we have

00:35:52.360 our website saveindianfamily.org that is where most male victims land to get support so we have

00:35:59.400 telegram groups and all and our twitter id is uh real safe real s-i-f-f uh real is real just like

00:36:08.040 like Real Journal Trump and SIFS, you know, that's for San Francisco and I and FF.

00:36:15.720 Well, thank you so much.

00:36:19.320 Okay, guys.

00:36:20.440 So, you know, a lot of times I think that the passport bros can sell dreams. 0.98

00:36:27.880 This is the commonality I've gotten from people across the world is that these issues

00:36:33.340 really are universal no matter what country you go to.

00:36:41.200 He's been an activist.

00:36:42.260 Yeah, he has.

00:36:43.580 Okay, so the next thing I'm going to react to

00:36:46.260 was I saw an old clip from Jesse Lee Peterson,

00:36:49.520 and I just thought it was hilarious.

00:36:52.020 Oh, I hope...

00:36:54.040 Oh, I don't know if they'll copyright me.

00:36:56.700 Dr. Phil.

00:37:00.260 Okay, guys, I'm going to do it.

00:37:02.100 I'm going to do it.

00:37:02.820 but if they pull the stream, I'm going to start another one. I think they warn you. I do. I think

00:37:07.580 they warn you. He's been tweeting about the Earth's alleged underpopulation crisis, but should we be

00:37:14.660 concerned? We've agreed that it's not birth rate that's causing any kind of climate change. It's

00:37:22.220 not the driver, at least, that's for sure. You think it should be, people should qualify and be

00:37:29.820 tested you think people should be tested you think we should just feed them and

00:37:34.380 let them age out voluntarily right I mean it so as a society I mean we value

00:37:42.820 freedom and the you know reproductive choice is one of those freedoms and I

00:37:49.020 think the better approach is to try to educate people so that they're

00:37:54.580 responsible when they have children and they can care for them but I mean I

00:37:58.760 I think having the government getting involved in anything like this, I mean, China's done that.

00:38:04.240 It's a disaster over there.

00:38:05.920 I completely agree with you about reproductive freedom.

00:38:09.060 I think that's the most important thing we need today.

00:38:12.360 Hundreds of millions of couples are denied their right to not procreate.

00:38:17.080 But you were mentioning...

00:38:18.860 How are they denied that right?

00:38:21.340 They do not have the contraceptive services, reproductive health services that they need.

00:38:28.760 those are not provided and maybe people should supply their own but they can't afford it because

00:38:35.560 they're having more offspring that they can't feed. Where is that? Just about everywhere. Try

00:38:41.400 to get a sterilization here in America when you haven't had kids and you're only 22. That's true. 1.00

00:38:49.320 We're not allowing people to not breathe. We see people like that all the time and you can put an

00:38:54.040 iud and a copper iud is effective for 10 years it's inert have you ever worked in a grocery

00:38:59.400 store and seen a a lady with a bonnet on her head with eight kids walking behind her you think that

00:39:05.240 she's being responsible you think that she's really taking into consideration what she's

00:39:10.280 supposed to do responsibly you think that she's not on section 8 housing you don't think that we

00:39:15.000 paying for her to house her kids who's probably going to grow up and steal my wheels off my car 1.00

00:39:20.440 I disagree with all this crap that I hear.

00:39:23.640 I grew up with six brothers and seven sisters at a time when, you know, I grew up on a plantation in Alabama.

00:39:31.220 And we grew up in a little hut house, bathroom outside.

00:39:35.560 And my family raised an amazing family, children.

00:39:41.020 But what the difference was then than it is now is that before you had babies, you got married.

00:39:46.840 So you have the father and the mother in the home.

00:39:49.180 And while the fathers are earning a living, the mother was watching over his children.

00:39:54.160 And so you were able to raise decent children.

00:39:56.520 We didn't have government in our lives at the time.

00:39:59.320 And so we were able to do that.

00:40:02.020 And in America, we were not allowing all these illegal aliens and refugees to come into our country. 1.00

00:40:08.700 So our government, we're not taking care of folks from other parts of the world and the families in America.

00:40:16.040 We took care of ourselves.

00:40:17.260 out. I think you've pretty much... I don't know. Jesse Lee Peterson kills me. Oh, he's so funny.

00:40:28.440 I'm going to keep going. Hold on. Pissed off everybody. But you said there's not

00:40:36.000 anything you've heard that you don't think is crap. So what do you think? You said what you

00:40:41.600 don't think. What do you think? I know that we need to restore the family. We need a smaller

00:40:45.700 the government because government don't make anything work. They screw you up. We need to

00:40:51.400 stop taking care of women who are having these babies out of wedlock. We need to stop taking 1.00

00:40:55.980 care of these women who are coming from other countries. We need to stop taking care of their 1.00

00:41:00.280 babies. We need to take care of American families first by getting them away from the government 0.99

00:41:05.460 and restoring order. You're a pastor, right? Yes. And you're a radio host? Yes. Okay. And you said

00:41:13.160 you believe white people should have more children we definitely need white babies 1.00

00:41:18.360 and i tremble at the idea that white babies that the white uh group is going down in numbers

00:41:26.600 because if you lose white folks america it's over for america because if you notice white

00:41:32.440 people tend to be more innovative they're more creative they have ideas about things

00:41:43.160 All these other races don't do nothing, but... 0.99

00:41:45.420 Like, Dr. Phil doesn't know what to do.

00:41:50.240 Wait, hold on. Hold on.

00:41:56.420 Because if you notice, white people tend to be more innovative. 0.89

00:42:00.340 They're more creative. They have ideas about things.

00:42:03.540 All these other races don't do nothing, but destroy. 1.00

00:42:06.920 They don't build. They destroy.

00:42:08.880 I said you'd piss off everybody. I was wrong.

00:42:11.300 Now you piss off everybody.

00:42:12.740 do you have a story or a question my favorite thing was just the face of everybody in the room

00:42:20.100 was so mad my producer says the face of the white dude was like what did i do

00:42:31.460 i'm just saying being white's awesome we don't we don't get i don't

00:42:37.940 he's funny he's funny okay so the next thing I wanted to give you guys an update on yeah but

00:42:49.960 then they can get to is apparently this woman now the news so I got a text this afternoon

00:42:56.560 and you guys know the woman I've been telling you about that she had sex with a hundred men

00:43:03.400 now she's looking to have sex with a thousand men well apparently she was on my show last year 1.00

00:43:11.400 and mind you sometimes these panels i really try to block out because they were really exhausting

00:43:18.520 but i actually do remember this show um i don't know why i literally forgot about her so she must

00:43:24.520 not have been that entertaining um but this was her on my show a year ago yeah but then they can 0.99

00:43:31.640 get to know the new 22 year old yeah yeah but not all guys not all guys fancy fresh me sure

00:43:38.920 they'll they'll get to know the 40 year olds when you're 60. some guys some guys have vegetables

00:43:43.880 for older women like i'm curious what do you guys make a month on only fans personally i don't like

00:43:48.040 to say same okay is it over six figures a month yeah okay is it over six figures i just said i'm

00:43:55.800 not saying okay um so did you you don't want to why does every every time i come on a podcast

00:44:01.480 everyone always asks me asks for that question don't they we want to know they want to know

00:44:09.640 i wouldn't do it if it wasn't enough she charges more than she does per month the brunette charges 1.00

00:44:13.800 more than the blonde per month so if she's working six tickets she's got to be in it logically it 1.00

00:44:18.040 depends on like following and stuff like that and like obviously you do a little bit less

00:44:22.360 doing it like that it just depends um i mean i don't face my arsehole but if you want to see that 0.50

00:44:27.800 subscribe i had enough i spoke to enough hookers in a year that i think i'm permanently traumatized

00:44:38.040 you know go to my go to the audacity network.com because i did that for you i love you guys you

00:44:44.440 know i really like to put in an entertaining show but my god that was a long year of my life so go

00:44:51.320 Go to theaudacitynetwork.com monthly or yearly membership.

00:44:56.600 Pearl, you got blackpilled.

00:44:57.960 I really did.

00:44:59.640 I really did.

00:45:00.520 You know, I'll tell you what, because we have this idea that these are special women. 1.00

00:45:07.920 This will never happen to anybody you know, none of the people in your life.

00:45:12.440 This is just crazy city behavior.

00:45:15.120 But most of these women were from small towns and good families. 1.00

00:45:19.840 lily phillips her she her parents talked to her every day she's from an upper class family in 1.00

00:45:27.420 england and i would just see woman after woman that would be christian muslim small town big town

00:45:36.560 and yeah black filled me it really did um okay so next on the agenda uh we are going to be

00:45:46.400 reacting to a debate that i saw on youtube and what i noticed is hold on guys um what i noticed

00:45:59.100 is oftentimes we think there's a big difference between conservative and liberal women and 1.00

00:46:11.520 I don't really see much

00:46:15.060 of

00:46:15.760 a difference in the two

00:46:18.400 and many

00:46:20.900 times we think that there are these special

00:46:23.000 women that are different but when 1.00

00:46:24.980 it comes to life choices

00:46:26.720 it's pretty

00:46:29.240 much the same thing

00:46:30.760 let me

00:46:34.320 where did I get this

00:46:35.820 bottom

00:46:37.660 oh here okay so let me pull okay this is the debate I wanted to react to

00:46:50.420 know where I'm coming from on this and I'm very excited for this break this is our final episode

00:46:59.860 of season two so sit back relax and let's dive into one last member also for a second I'm going

00:47:05.540 to react to the youtube comments uh one says thanks pearl pearl for bringing on siff by the

00:47:12.180 way ai engineer was paid was by his wife to pay 2 400 per month per maintenance besides paying

00:47:20.260 360 000 one-time payment fazelle says jesse lee peterson says nothing about the truth if you guys

00:47:27.300 have a question comment or concern go to the audacitynetwork.com ten dollars a month 80 bucks

00:47:31.940 a year just be a part of the live chat thank you memorable opposing views discussion together and

00:47:36.420 it's a really good one you guys stay tuned for updates on what's coming next for season three

00:47:40.580 by hitting the subscribe button and the notification bell and until then thank you

00:47:44.260 for being part of this community welcome to the ellen fisher podcast thank you so much guys for

00:47:48.420 being here i am so looking forward to this conversation i have a bunch of really hot

00:47:53.140 topic questions to get into but before i do that i wanted you guys to share a little bit about

00:47:57.860 your story and what led you to being passionate about this topic. I'll ask you first.

00:48:02.980 Yeah, so right now I'm a physician, but when my content started and I started being a lot more

00:48:10.180 vocal about feminism, women's rights, kind of that whole sphere, it started because of the Texas SB8,

00:48:18.820 which was the six-week abortion ban. And I woke up one day as a med student at the time and just

00:48:26.980 like really frustrated and really angry about it and tiktok is the place that people go to vent

00:48:32.180 those kinds of opinions um and so i just was like you know what i have an opinion and i have to say

00:48:37.060 something and it was a good outlet um and that video went viral and i was not expecting it to

00:48:42.500 at all um because i didn't have a platform at all and so then i kind of just fed off of um comments

00:48:48.340 and interaction and i was like well i have opinions if y'all want to hear them and so then it kind of

00:48:53.940 just snowballed and now i'm really passionate about being as good as an advocate as i can be

00:48:58.820 awesome my name is isabel brown i am a full-time content creator and i host a live stream every

00:49:04.660 day where we talk about a whole host of issues not just women's related topics and conversations but

00:49:10.100 what's going on on tick tock politics uh religion dating the whole nine and i never expected that

00:49:16.260 this would be something i did for a career i too actually was pre-med way back in the day and have

00:49:20.260 a few degrees in biomedical sciences in graduate school more on the public policy side women in 1.00

00:49:25.780 the process it's why you're watching women become so controversial in and of itself we have a supreme 0.98

00:49:31.380 court justice in the united states who can't answer the question what is a woman you're watching

00:49:36.900 women's rights advocates claim that the best trajectory for women moving into the future 0.94

00:49:41.780 is in fact disintegrating what we would understand women okay so i want you guys to pay attention

00:49:47.220 the non-feminists claim to care about family but they refuse to take away the incentives 1.00

00:49:56.680 or argue about the incentives that are destroying the family they'll go back and forth about

00:50:01.860 abortion the men in the women's locker rooms all this bs that 0.71

00:50:07.900 let's be honest abortions going nowhere the ladies did that to themselves the men in the 1.00

00:50:16.600 women's locker rooms i mean the ladies they're the ones who push that so i don't feel bad at all 1.00

00:50:22.680 but the innocent people here are the men that are victims of the family court system

00:50:30.200 and i'll be really surprised if they cover that at all womanhood to historically be heck you're 1.00

00:50:38.700 even watching feminist movements applaud men taking over women's spaces and calling it

00:50:43.200 inclusivity in society rather than what it is which is just frankly misogyny so i wouldn't

00:50:48.640 necessarily identify with the post-modern fourth wave feminist movement we find ourselves in today

00:50:54.320 but feminism historically has done amazing work for women and truly brought us to the 1.00

00:50:58.880 now the early feminists bombed places they were known as terrorists 1.00

00:51:07.520 so a lot of times you hear the conservative commentators saying first wave feminism was

00:51:13.880 good second wave feminism was good well their entire goal was to destroy the nuclear family 1.00

00:51:20.580 from the beginning um so what parts of early feminism were good right even playing field of 1.00

00:51:30.100 equality that we get to live in every day as the status quo okay what about you so i would

00:51:35.840 absolutely identify as a feminist. And for me, feminism is about equal rights. It's about equal 1.00

00:51:41.740 opportunity. And when you talk about fourth wave feminism, I specifically appreciate and when I

00:51:47.680 identify with fourth wave feminism, because I think it's essential to recognize that we are three

00:51:52.420 white privileged women sitting here having this conversation. And a really big part of fourth 1.00

00:51:57.220 wave feminism is the recognition of intersectionality. And so sure, there might not be 1.00

00:52:02.600 legal barriers to opportunities to us now, but there are still very much different prejudices

00:52:09.720 and stigmas against women, especially when it comes to being working moms and things like that. 0.98

00:52:14.880 And when it comes to, again, different identities, when it comes to women of color,

00:52:19.900 women in poverty, it's recognizing that they also need to be supported and they also need

00:52:25.800 to be seen. And when it comes to things like our unpaid labor and unseen labor and mental load,

00:52:33.020 those are all things that fourth wave feminism is really trying to bring awareness to because 1.00

00:52:37.040 it's so much easier to ignore. What do you think about that? That's an interesting thought. I'd be

00:52:42.040 curious to know how you are seeing these prejudices continue to exist against women,

00:52:46.620 if in fact they're not legally, structurally in place in America today. How are those

00:52:51.920 manifesting from your point of view? Yeah. So things like the gender wage gap. So women are 1.00

00:52:57.800 still earning less than men with the same degrees, with the same positions. Women also get questioned

00:53:04.340 more often when they try to balance work and parenthood, things like that. When it comes to

00:53:09.600 just the opportunity to do what you want to do with your life, you want to have the same

00:53:13.360 opportunities as men, both financially and from the perspective of just like the societal appearance

00:53:19.540 of what you're choosing where men have a lot more freedom to not be constrained by gender norms when

00:53:26.180 it comes to their life choices if they don't want children or they don't want to be married

00:53:30.100 a lot of people don't question that a lot of people are just like yeah that makes sense

00:53:33.140 you know but when a woman chooses that there's a lot of that sort of stigma behind it of like oh 0.95

00:53:38.420 well surely like you'll change your mind surely that's what everyone would want and so that's

00:53:43.220 what i mean when i say there's that stigma and there's that pressure pushing against women who 0.93

00:53:48.020 want to go outside the traditional gender norms of what we would think women should want for ourselves

00:53:53.220 that's so interesting because truthfully i encounter the exact opposite in spending my

00:53:57.940 time online or on college campuses or with women's organizations if anything i think our postmodern

00:54:03.300 society has built a very strong stigma against traditional gender norms you look at every

00:54:08.820 headline in cosmopolitan magazine for example encouraging women to not have children to not

00:54:14.020 get married so notice the language the language is still society's making me do this it's almost

00:54:21.140 as if we're children right well society's shaming us for choosing this or society's encouraging us

00:54:29.540 to do this no nothing's stopping us three percent of gen z women are married and isabella you know

00:54:39.620 she just got married in her late 20s okay not wrong not wrong not good not bad but it's not

00:54:47.220 traditional right to be as promiscuous as possible and never to be committed

00:54:52.500 and the other girl i'm pretty sure she's engaged during a long-term living relationship i i don't

00:54:58.260 know her as well um i just know isabella's because i made um a spreadsheet collecting data from

00:55:05.060 conservative women to track if their age of marriage number of kids was any different than 1.00

00:55:10.260 liberal and it's pretty much it's it's the same it's the same their personal dating relationships

00:55:18.100 uh the surgeon general of the united states of america a few weeks ago actually issued an

00:55:23.380 official declaration that parenting is theoretically hazardous for your health because it might make

00:55:29.620 you more lonely than if you never had children to begin with which was an odd train of thought to

00:55:34.660 begin with and not incredibly logical so you're watching the establishment media you're watching

00:55:40.020 establishment healthcare and physicians you're watching college campuses your favorite celebrities

00:55:45.300 hollywood influencers all strategically peddle this narrative for women that the only way to be 1.00

00:55:51.060 an empowered enlightened woman in 2024 is to abandon tradition to abandon gender norms to 1.00

00:55:58.180 abandon femininity in many ways uh and certainly to never get married or have children so that is

00:56:04.100 interesting that there is that tug of war still in america but i certainly think today gender norms 0.85

00:56:09.620 are what the stigma happens to be rather than buffing gender i wish we could talk less in the

00:56:15.060 abstract and i could get more specifics right like what does that mean in real life

00:56:23.220 like what does that mean in your life like when were you pushed one way or another

00:56:28.820 who pushed you so okay let's say it was your school who picked the school

00:56:37.360 um you don't have to go to college right that's a choice

00:56:44.540 i understand maybe under 18 but after 18 it's you're an adult

00:56:52.100 your norms but it's interesting you bring up the gender wage gap you know this is a 0.89

00:56:56.920 conversation we've had for years and years and years in the United States, and certainly historically

00:57:00.680 has been true decades and decades and decades ago. But there have been countless studies proving that

00:57:05.800 the gender pay gap does not exist when you account for different career choices, working full-time

00:57:11.140 versus part-time. The census data that typically accounts for this 84 cents on the dollar or 84%

00:57:16.500 figure even goes so far as to skew the numbers that teachers, first primary and secondary teachers

00:57:22.200 who are overwhelmingly three quarters female who work 38 weeks out of the year they do the math

00:57:27.480 that they work 52 weeks out of the year to make it seem like they're earning substantially less

00:57:32.040 money than men but that all is obviously so i understand there's a time and a place for data

00:57:40.520 i'm not saying i'm trying to be careful with my words i'm not saying data is wrong or bad to use

00:57:51.160 But when making a point, I always like to use real life examples that other people can

00:57:59.640 think about if they're true or not in their life. And the challenge we're going to get is she's

00:58:05.880 going to cite a study and it's going to say her point and the other woman's going to cite a study 1.00

00:58:12.040 and it's going to say her point. And the challenge with data is a lot of times they get their funding

00:58:17.160 from either traditional conservative organizations. That's where you get all the Michael Knowles

00:58:23.800 Daily Wire stats that are pushing marriage, right? Because they're institutes that again, 0.93

00:58:30.360 that's their thing. They're like Christian organization. Then the liberals, they have

00:58:36.120 their left leaning organizations. And if you get results that go against your ideology,

00:58:47.720 that's the challenge i have with data right i'm not saying it's bad or good we can look at each

00:58:53.960 study but i prefer to know how it's affected your life right really not true has been proven to be

00:59:02.200 wrong over and over again and interestingly is statistically dramatically changing because when

00:59:07.400 you look at the careers women are choosing in the norms of 2024 let's look at medicine for example

00:59:13.080 you're a physician a first year resident historically in the 1960s only eight percent

00:59:17.640 of med students were females today over 50 percent of medical students are females and that's 1.00

00:59:23.320 terrifying that's terrifying that's i'm bad i'm not saying medicine's gonna go downhill i'm not

00:59:39.080 going to say that because i can't i'm not i'm not youtube i am not saying that i'm not saying i am

00:59:51.560 not that is not what i'm saying i'm just going to continue that's positions are statistically

01:00:01.400 the highest paid consistent employment in the united states today medical students include

01:00:06.200 nursing and tax how did i know how did i know there was some catch i

01:00:13.240 i'm not going to say it look how great the health care system is now

01:00:18.440 i didn't say that i just read a comment okay all i did was read a comment i did not say that

01:00:27.400 yeah so i've actually read the complete opposite studies from the studies that i've read

01:00:31.080 specifically when people men and women are in the same role so a managerial

01:00:36.900 role or supervising role women make less than men in the exact same roles same 0.64

01:00:41.140 with people who have advanced degrees so masters or doctorates women who have 0.87

01:00:44.900 the same degrees as men will statistically make less money than men 0.96

01:00:48.540 with those same degrees so we're reading different studies and living in

01:00:51.460 different realities it seems but when I want to really go back to what you were

01:00:56.440 saying about the media and everyone pushing women to not get married and

01:01:00.900 not have children and demonizing this sense of tradition. And to be clear, I'm pro-choice in

01:01:07.360 all different ways. And I believe when I see the media pushing these things, I don't see it

01:01:12.560 demonizing the traditional way of life. I don't see it demonizing, you know, people who want to

01:01:17.720 homeschool or who want to be stay-at-home moms. I see it as them opening the, you know, opportunities

01:01:23.480 for women to choose what they want to do. Because historically, women have been told that if you 1.00

01:01:28.820 don't want to be a stay-at-home mom if you don't want to dedicate your entire life and being to

01:01:33.140 your children and family then you are wrong and you're going to be unhappy and so now the media

01:01:37.380 is kind of swinging that pendulum which like admittedly pendulums swing a little bit too far

01:01:41.860 before they normalize right and i'm not saying i have anything wrong with it but i think that

01:01:46.100 what the media and what okay this idea that things are gonna swing back it's them selling you hope

01:01:56.100 and that's a whole business it's selling you hope right no usually trends just continue

01:02:05.060 and if they're not going to continue there's generally indications that it's going to go the

01:02:11.860 other way i know there's a lot of women in dresses cooking in the kitchen now on social media but 1.00

01:02:19.140 when i look at gen z three percent are married

01:02:21.620 and the other thing they're not taking into account is in the united states 90 percent of

01:02:30.220 people were farmers up until the 1900s like it i actually have it on here hold on i pulled this up

01:02:40.740 earlier um so i don't know what they keep saying that you know they supported men's dreams or

01:02:49.220 whatever you know I don't think most of men's dreams was to be a farmer because the day they

01:02:55.680 got the option to not be farmers a lot of men said I'm not doing that anymore so that's the

01:03:04.760 detail they keep skipping over is that you know yes the women stayed home with the kids 0.98

01:03:12.300 but they had more kids to help on the farm.

01:03:17.960 So I don't know what,

01:03:22.280 like his other option was factory worker and coal miner.

01:03:27.540 What dreams was he,

01:03:29.840 if he wasn't born into an aristocratic class

01:03:33.200 or ran for office,

01:03:35.820 what dreams did he have?

01:03:39.340 Okay, I'm going to continue.

01:03:42.300 people are really trying to portray is that you do not have to fall into this historical role

01:03:53.620 you can date around you can choose to not get married you can choose to not have kids

01:03:58.460 and all of those things are valid and for the longest part of history women were seeing the

01:04:03.780 exact opposite messaging we're encouraged to you know marry whoever and have kids because that's

01:04:09.300 makes you happy and a lot of our grandmothers and mothers were like oh guess what it didn't make me

01:04:14.340 happy and they're encouraging the younger generation now this is something that conservatives

01:04:20.420 think is untrue when they say my mother and grandmother um told me or the the women of the

01:04:30.420 past weren't as happy as they say i have to agree with them and i'll tell you why so when i was doing

01:04:39.220 my shows i would get people that came from seemingly more traditional countries um

01:04:47.540 nigeria was one i could think of zimbabwe is another um

01:04:53.460 countries that were a little bit more traditional say than the west as we saw before

01:05:00.980 gyno centrism is a problem among everywhere but one thing that i often heard from

01:05:09.220 the daughters that migrated to the UK because a lot of immigrants came to the UK in the last like

01:05:15.800 50 years so a lot of them were second generation they would tell me that the reason that they chose

01:05:24.420 to go to school and not prioritize marriage was because their mother told them not to

01:05:29.520 and I just heard that too many times from women that didn't know each other the mothers would be 1.00

01:05:35.540 married 30 40 50 years and they would still tell their daughters to wait to get married or not to

01:05:41.340 do it at all uh so what am i supposed to do with that i don't know i i don't think that's like a

01:05:48.700 nice conclusion i think a lot more women trashed their husbands than we like to admit but it kind 1.00

01:05:55.020 of lines up with what we're seeing now i don't think people of the past were so different than

01:05:59.260 the people of today there's just more incentives and choice now so yeah okay I'm gonna keep going

01:06:08.460 to make whatever choices make them happy that's an interesting perspective namely because

01:06:15.620 statistically even today married women with children are overwhelmingly self-reporting

01:06:19.960 themselves to be the happiest in society we're over correcting in so many ways for maybe

01:06:25.520 potentially flawed narratives of the past or incomplete narratives of the now again i gotta

01:06:33.140 look at choices i don't think women are as monogamous as we once thought and the reason i 1.00

01:06:40.960 think that is because the second that women got to choose non-monogamy too many women chose it 1.00

01:06:46.720 you know if you pull men and women on if waiting till marriage for example is important to them

01:06:54.580 more men rank that as important than women. So are married women with children the happiest? 0.92

01:07:06.580 Probably, but it doesn't really, I don't think that stat shows fully because you're not taking

01:07:19.660 into account the women that were married and had children and chose to leave, right? Like

01:07:24.380 divorcees so it's almost like a cheater stat i don't i don't know i don't know if i'm making

01:07:29.420 sense but okay the past which we call a pendulum shift but honestly looks a whole lot more like

01:07:34.860 propaganda to me when we're inventing and this is the thing they both have propaganda they both do

01:07:40.220 the right and the left it's equal okay the left has a little bit more pull so you know the left

01:07:45.900 does more but the right wants men to get married and they want men to fix society because again 0.96

01:07:54.040 it scares them what they're going to do with all these single women and if men don't keep 0.68

01:07:59.820 taking bad deals society will fall apart you know if men are treated poorly by the military let's

01:08:08.000 say and enough men say you know what I'm not doing this that becomes a problem for everybody

01:08:12.760 if men say you know what i'm not getting married anymore well that becomes a problem for businesses

01:08:20.000 because women love to spend so men make the money women spend it this isn't even discounted because

01:08:27.340 we have tiktoks of men and women saying my money is my money his money is our money

01:08:33.260 so this isn't even discounted right then on top of that politicians need the birth rate to come up

01:08:41.600 they don't know what to do if men say you know what i'm not having kids with these ladies they're 1.00

01:08:47.700 terrified so both sides have incentive to lie realities that don't reflect indicative in normal

01:08:58.280 society the family stability society i can't remember the exact group that ran this study but

01:09:03.900 from 2023 found that 40 percent of women who are married with children self-report their lives to

01:09:09.960 be incredibly overwhelmingly happy. Only 22% of unmarried women with children feel the exact

01:09:15.740 same way. So, well, and the question I have is at what age, at what age are they pulling the women?

01:09:25.240 Because a 25 year old hot woman, I can't think of anybody on the planet that has a better life. 1.00

01:09:30.880 a 55 year old ex hot women woman I can't think of anybody else that has a worse life because she 1.00

01:09:40.480 had that amazing life and now it's gone forever and she'll never get it back

01:09:44.560 it's not really manifesting in society the exact same way that we're seeing overwhelmingly portrayed

01:09:50.800 in these headlines in movies and tv shows and studies conducted by academia and what's said

01:09:55.800 by presidential candidates of the United States so it seems to me this isn't so much of a societal

01:10:00.840 pendulum shift as it is an overwhelming narrative that is being pushed onto the next generation to

01:10:07.180 convince them hey i know this is what's being proven in society this is probably what's going

01:10:12.160 to make you happy just because that's how we've done things in the past we can never consider

01:10:16.200 that moving into the future because we have to be progressive for the sake of being progressive

01:10:20.260 trust me we can all use a little support when it comes yeah you are not plugging your ad on my

01:10:25.660 stream hell no we're reading different statistics because again i've read many statistics that show

01:10:33.260 that typically mothers and people again

01:10:38.860 this is why i don't love statistics because they're going to go back and forth my stats

01:10:45.740 your stats how did you conduct this study i prefer good faith conversations about what

01:10:52.620 we've seen in our actual lives so you know my question is are your parents married and are they

01:10:58.780 happy did you have friends growing up are they still married and are they happy did they have

01:11:04.300 a relationship that you would want now does everyone want to answer that honestly on camera

01:11:12.620 i don't know but yeah data can be manipulated and what generalizations do people which i can't make

01:11:21.180 on youtube um can people relate to you know what generalizations can we make and people say oh i

01:11:29.580 relate with that who give birth are more likely to suffer from mental health conditions than women

01:11:37.260 who do not because it is more of a stressor there's all of that unpaid work unpaid labor

01:11:43.740 and unseen mental load that women have to carry and we also have to look at the way that these 1.00

01:11:48.300 surveys are asked because a lot of times the questions that are asked are asked in a certain

01:11:52.060 way that want to get a certain answer from you and if you don't believe me right look at all

01:11:58.860 the traditional conservatives on twitter begging lily to find god the stuff is biased right both

01:12:11.020 ways you um but i think again when you see progression and you see progressive ideas

01:12:18.140 you see it as people pushing that idea as the only correct way where i just view it differently i see

01:12:23.340 it as opening up opportunities for people and recognizing that all of these different ways of

01:12:28.380 life are valid and again through history like historically women have been given these very 0.82

01:12:34.940 narrow options and told and when we talk about propaganda right i see that as propaganda i see

01:12:40.620 it as propaganda to say that you will not be happy unless you have a family and children because for

01:12:45.260 a lot of people that is not true and that's also not necessarily a choice if you don't meet the

01:12:49.420 right person or you get stuck with the wrong person you know it's it doesn't necessarily mean

01:12:54.540 that you are going to be happy and so many of our mothers and grandmothers have told us this

01:12:59.980 did not make me happy it wasn't the marriage itself it was the person so ensure that you are

01:13:05.260 you know aiming for an equal partnership and what we found out about us ladies when feminism birth 1.00

01:13:12.940 control no fault divorce was that women do not like average men as much as we used to think

01:13:20.300 when you take out money unfortunately the sexes go apart when you give women all the choice in the 1.00

01:13:28.060 world we have a tendency to choose to be by our dang selves i i don't make the rules i didn't

01:13:35.020 make this world okay but all the data that's what it indicates and you know make sure that you are

01:13:42.460 choosing your partner wisely because women have not been given that opportunity women have not been

01:13:48.220 you know encouraged to really make those intentional choices it's always been about

01:13:52.860 checking a box instead of living life intentionally yeah and look i think the spectrum of human

01:13:58.460 happiness obviously is a subjective conversation to have it depends on the individual it certainly

01:14:03.500 depends on one and that's the other thing i don't like is um in one day i could feel happy in the

01:14:11.500 morning and mad at night so am i happy person or an unhappy person um like happiness is a feeling

01:14:22.140 i don't think it's a state so i don't really like studies that use happiness because how do you

01:14:30.940 measure it um and like what does that even mean circumstances i hope joy is something people

01:14:42.140 continue to choose no matter what their circumstances are but that speaks more largely

01:14:45.740 to the mental health of our population what i what i do have a problem with is not the expectation

01:14:50.620 that people can make different decisions for their life based on their individual circumstances or

01:14:55.420 their own personal autonomy. It's this idea that the narrative we are being pushed every single

01:15:01.600 day by the machine, whatever you want to call that, government, healthcare, media, and everything

01:15:07.320 in between seems to be overwhelmingly convincing you in whatever way, shape, or form that what we

01:15:14.640 understand to be traditionalism is wrong, that marriage is wrong. In fact, having children is 0.95

01:15:21.380 wrong. We're sitting here in Los Angeles filming the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago, had a

01:15:26.020 headline saying you are an inherently selfish person if you want to have a child. And they

01:15:31.240 were making this claim through the lens of climate change. But I can't tell you how many headlines I

01:15:35.800 see every single day with statistics and data and evidence from the experts that you are a bad person

01:15:42.780 if you want to get married if you want to have children if you want to go through this journey

01:15:47.580 of traditionalism that we often scorn at in postmodern it's i don't want to bring morality

01:15:54.420 into this it's not bad or good it is just statistically not going to be an option for

01:16:01.500 the majority of people because even now only 20 of couples are married with kids

01:16:09.500 that trend seems like it's going to get worse not better I don't want to say worse but like

01:16:20.460 it's going to continue going that way there's no data that indicates it's going any other way

01:16:26.020 so anybody that's saying that's an option for most people is selling dreams that's what they're

01:16:34.120 doing. And I think it's tough because it's tough to accept, right? Because that's what we've seen

01:16:43.080 on TV. That's what we grew up around. But the world is changing. Unfortunately, the cat's out

01:16:49.480 of the bottle. I don't see anything that indicates it's going the other way. I see zero evidence to

01:16:55.440 indicate it's going to go that way not this way okay um rob said i can't say there's a certain

01:17:04.980 someone who isn't as bright as men not gonna say it um i can't rob also said on the website which

01:17:11.980 if you guys want to comment um question comment or concern you go to the audacity network.com

01:17:17.200 links in the description 10 bucks a month 80 bucks a year you get me to read your comments

01:17:21.320 during shows rob says i knew a coal miner that later became a medical transcriber i worked with

01:17:28.120 residents and nurses almost continuously specifics are important alexander said the dadvocate and

01:17:34.340 roma army said on stream they would be fine with porn stars and of chicks becoming the teacher of

01:17:39.620 their kids because they wouldn't want to judge a woman based on her sexual history even some of 0.87

01:17:43.680 the most based women in the space still have feminist tendencies modern society because it's 1.00

01:17:49.200 viewed as the opposite of progressivism when in reality that's just not making people happy we're

01:17:53.920 in the midst of the biggest mental health crisis of all time in western society certainly within

01:17:59.680 the context of gen z and for the first time ever young women are actually struggling with more

01:18:04.480 mental health conditions okay notice right there they she took a man's problem and made it about 1.00

01:18:14.880 women. If I Google, who commits suicide more, teenage men or women?

01:18:23.760 Males die by suicide more frequently. This discrepancy is known as the gender paradox

01:18:30.400 in suicide. So again, you have both women, right? One's claiming traditionalism, 0.99

01:18:38.560 but they make all of the problems that affect men they make about women they completely do it so

01:18:46.180 if there's a men's mental health crisis it's what about women's issues and young men they are

01:18:52.760 statistically much more likely to be anxious to be depressed the CDC found that in 2021 one in

01:18:58.300 three teenage girls seriously contemplated taking her own life I want to see how bad the discrepancy

01:19:04.460 is because male versus female men make up 80 percent of suicides we're talking about women's

01:19:16.500 mental health 80 percent of suicides and we're saying but women have the mental health issues 0.97

01:19:24.320 it's women women women like it drives me nuts drives me crazy and it's so and I don't like 1.00

01:19:30.980 she probably just memorizes talking points i don't i don't know how much like in debt like the stuff

01:19:36.740 she's saying is stuff i've heard like in conservative media for 10 years so i don't know

01:19:42.500 how in-depth she's gone on this stuff but again if conservatives really cared about traditionalism

01:19:50.180 they would get rid of the systems that punish men for being traditional they would and that

01:19:55.140 would be their number one issue but they do not care about it they don't because they spend a

01:20:00.980 million hours talking about men and women's sports abortion all this white noise that distracts from

01:20:11.380 the real issues because they make money off of women so you have to pander and say oh but women's 1.00

01:20:20.500 mental health women's because the female even conservatives get paid by women 1.00

01:20:27.300 i'd have a million subscribers on the you know i would have a billion subscribers on the website

01:20:32.340 if i just pandered to women you guys are lucky i have integrity because if i steve harveyed it

01:20:38.900 oh my gosh you would be rich you would be rich hard for me to wrestle with this idea that we

01:20:46.660 claim to live in the most progressive society in human history where anything is possible and you

01:20:51.460 can do whatever you want and there are no consequences to your actions and you can make

01:20:55.460 your life brick by brick exactly what you want it to be yet we're devoiding society of purpose

01:21:01.300 and meaning and fulfillment entirely which is why we end up feeling so lost now all right you go

01:21:07.060 ahead and reply then i have another question for you guys yeah so i actually disagree that we're

01:21:11.300 devoid of purpose because i think the entire purpose of deviating from this idea that motherhood

01:21:18.660 and wifehood are the key identifiers of a woman i feel like that is what devoids women of purpose 0.99

01:21:25.460 and this idea that you can achieve whatever you want and you can be whatever you want is the

01:21:30.420 intention of that is to help women find their purpose because so many people had to put their 0.99

01:21:34.580 dreams and desires aside to lift up the men in their life and now we're saying no we want they

01:21:40.820 were farmers coal miners and factory workers i think by the 1940s 40 percent of men were factory

01:21:49.540 workers but 1800s at one point 90 percent of men were farmers

01:21:59.860 i think we see i think we see things on tv sometimes and we just think all the

01:22:04.900 like a man's life is just easy they just put on a suit go to work wolf of wall street it 0.67

01:22:13.140 but they gotta stop giving us movies they gotta we we see the movies and we just we think it's

01:22:20.340 nothing that the men just go to work don't do anything and get a bunch of money and

01:22:27.860 status yeah the opportunity and we want to find our own purpose and that doesn't always have to be

01:22:33.620 motherhood and wifehood okay if anything if i learned anything from interviewing a thousand

01:22:39.940 women it's that there's a ton of women that absolutely should not have children absolutely 1.00

01:22:45.940 not you're telling me that woman that had sex with a thousand men conservatives driving me nuts 1.00

01:22:52.580 sometimes you're telling me you want her to have children like that would be a good idea 1.00

01:23:04.580 maybe if she didn't do the sex work but now no no no there's a lot there i feel like there's

01:23:14.580 so many things i wanted to ask within you guys going back and forth but real quick going back

01:23:18.660 to the gender pay gap have any of these studies that you either of you read had anything to do

01:23:23.060 with um a woman who might be less likely to ask for a raise than a man i've read something about

01:23:29.220 that what are your thoughts on that yeah i'm so glad you asked so the harvard business review

01:23:33.380 actually did a study where they found that women who requested a higher or an increase in their

01:23:39.600 wages were seen as less likable and more aggressive than men at the same companies asking for the same

01:23:45.820 thing. See, the men don't care if they're seen as not likable or aggressive. They're going to ask.

01:23:54.720 They were therefore less likely to be granted that pay increase and less likely to be given

01:23:59.100 promotions and so you can see in that culture how women would then be discouraged from asking

01:24:04.860 because then you're seen as less likable and it's going to create more hostility in the workplace

01:24:09.180 which is unpleasant and so that's reducing women's opportunities for growth what are your thoughts on

01:24:14.620 that i just think it's not quite indicative of what we're seeing with patterns in society today

01:24:19.660 women are statistically much more likely to seek out a college degree today they are overwhelmingly 1.00

01:24:24.140 the majority of college students and graduates women are twice as likely according to some 0.99

01:24:28.540 studies to be hired for the same job as men and twice as likely to be promoted for the same job

01:24:33.660 as men within the same company depending on which studies you're looking at so

01:24:37.660 the problem with statistics and evidence is that it doesn't really tell the whole picture right

01:24:41.740 and i think that's exactly what we're seeing with this idea of the gender pay gap you can

01:24:46.300 certainly find a company that might be men make 80 percent of the world's stuff

01:24:52.060 80 percent of the food supply they run the entire infrastructure women only have 20 1.00

01:25:02.540 of infrastructure jobs and that even includes the women holding the flags at construction sites they 1.00

01:25:09.100 count they count uh paying their female employees less than men which would be a horrible practice 0.98

01:25:20.620 but that's not accounting for the general societal trends of women taking more time off of work 1.00

01:25:25.600 because they're having children and embracing maternity leave. Maybe they leave their job for 0.99

01:25:29.640 a few years and end up coming back. They might work in a job, as I mentioned earlier, like a

01:25:33.460 teacher that doesn't work 52 weeks out of the year. So if you're dividing their annual salary

01:25:37.540 of 38 weeks by 52 weeks, of course, that's going to look abhorrently low. When in reality,

01:25:43.680 mathematicians and economists have proven over and over and over again, when you account for

01:25:47.860 job of choice, when you account for educational field of choice historically, which is dramatically

01:25:52.780 changing today in the 2020s, and when you account for potential time off from maternity leave or

01:25:57.500 taking a sabbatical from work, there is no such thing as the gender pay gap. And if there were, 0.98

01:26:02.820 why wouldn't every company in the United States only be hiring women if we live in this evil 1.00

01:26:07.060 capitalistic society where these evil bosses want to make so much more money and withhold that from

01:26:12.360 their employees, which I hear all the time? Why wouldn't we only be hiring women to save companies 1.00

01:26:17.780 and ceos that much more money in the process yeah what do you think about that that's an interesting

01:26:22.900 perspective yeah and again we're reading completely different studies going back and forth yeah we

01:26:27.620 don't have like a specific study to bring which is a problem in and of itself right i often say

01:26:32.180 in 2024 america we're living in two different americas and we're watching society really rip

01:26:37.700 in half between one reality and another reality often along the lines of red states and blue

01:26:42.260 states i think it's inarguable that that's the reality we live in but that's the problem with

01:26:47.380 our society being devoid of objective truth right it's why i do what i do every day when we lack an

01:26:53.060 objective standard for what is real and what is not because my truth is different from your truth

01:26:57.300 in society all of a sudden anything is true anything can be proven anything has data and

01:27:02.500 statistics behind it and we lack the opportunity to have real meaningful conversations about what's

01:27:07.140 best for humanity yeah and i do want to say too when you mention things like teachers it is true

01:27:12.820 that when we look at a broad scope of women's careers versus men's careers especially

01:27:18.740 historically women do um again they're pushed into it and so now we have more opportunity but 0.97

01:27:25.940 women were typically secretaries nurses teachers and fields that were female dominated were 0.99

01:27:33.860 underpaid and what time period i think they're talking about the 1900s and continue to be

01:27:41.860 underpaid because they're female dominated there's a principle called male flight that when more 0.97

01:27:47.780 women enter into a career field men leave and then the wages for that for that position tend 1.00

01:27:55.220 to either stagnate they don't continue to increase as the as in oh i want to say something but i can't

01:28:04.500 i can't okay let me just let me think so she said your study says that when women go into a career 1.00

01:28:10.180 field men leave and the wages don't increase is it possible that they don't do as good of a job

01:28:21.220 not all not all not all inflation in the years increase or they decrease because women are now 1.00

01:28:26.580 in those positions and so we have to account for i wish i was there because i i i just i could see

01:28:36.420 your face if i said yeah because they do a worse job it would be really funny it would be really

01:28:41.540 funny like you said maternity leave we have to account for all these things when we're looking

01:28:45.300 at the gender pay gap there are statistics that show equal degrees equal positions they're paid

01:28:49.940 differently but also from a more broader societal perspective women have found themselves in

01:28:55.540 positions that are compensated less because they're seen as lesser than okay so i want to go

01:29:01.860 to this topic of purpose women freedom of choice you mentioned something about women not finding

01:29:08.420 their purpose to be motherhood or being wise but i have a feeling at least from my own lived

01:29:13.460 experience that motherhood and being married to my husband is the most what age what age did you do

01:29:19.220 it i mean that would be my question because it's one thing to say that right but if that was your

01:29:25.780 number one choice you would have did it first not saying right or wrong

01:29:33.700 what age i i don't know this commentator in the middle most important thing i've

01:29:38.180 ever done far more valuable being a mother than this podcast let's just be real i love

01:29:42.580 this podcast but it's nowhere near compares to being a mother so i imagine people listening

01:29:47.780 who are mothers i i would think people might want to discuss this together about that based

01:29:52.500 on something you brought up so why don't you elaborate a little more on that and then you can

01:29:55.380 respond yeah absolutely so again this is all about choice i think that the whole point is realizing

01:30:01.540 that both choices are valid and everything is going to be different for every woman because

01:30:05.700 we're so unique and we're so individual and motherhood and being a wife can be incredibly

01:30:11.460 fulfilling which is why i'm pro-choice in all ways of life because i don't think that it is my

01:30:17.860 ability i don't think that it is my responsibility or that i even have the ability to say what will

01:30:22.820 make you happy or what will make you happy which is why we should all have equal opportunity and

01:30:26.820 respect everyone's choices to do either to be a traditional wife and mother to do a little bit of

01:30:31.780 the in-between or to be a full-on career woman i think all of those are valid for different women

01:30:37.300 you mentioned earlier something that stuck with me that embracing marriage or motherhood in the

01:30:42.740 past for our mothers and grandmothers was elevating the men in their life rather than

01:30:47.540 putting themselves first can you elaborate on that yeah absolutely so typically women were 1.00

01:30:53.700 encouraged to stay home take care of the house take care of the kids while their husband father

01:30:59.780 the father of their children you know went after their dreams they went after the promotions they

01:31:05.780 dedicated their life to work and whatever farming coal mining factory worker

01:31:12.740 i mean when i googled it that's what it said the job options were back then i don't

01:31:20.100 what dreams you had to be born into a royal family

01:31:25.660 a peasant what was the a welder i don't for their passion was and whatever their purpose was

01:31:37.480 and so women's jobs weren't necessarily to discover what their purpose and their passions are if it 1.00

01:31:43.500 was if it happened to be outside of motherhood and wifehood it was instead to be like we'll just

01:31:47.840 encourage him to do what he needs to do and you pick up all the pieces while he's out there do

01:31:52.160 you think that's still true today that marriage is inherently elevating men or motherhood is

01:31:56.660 inherently riley reed got marriage or sorry riley reed got married it's done there's no

01:32:04.680 nala got married you guys conservatives you let everybody in and you ruined it i don't know what

01:32:12.100 to tell you you know you simped for women um you believed all these abuse claims

01:32:19.380 you believed the hoes that came into church and said they were born again 1.00

01:32:25.600 um no one was shocked that the divorce rate today if you look at the divorce stats

01:32:32.320 it's not different for people that are christian catholic it's all the same or or similar

01:32:38.840 so congratulations it's dead the average marriage is eight years

01:32:44.020 doesn't exist it's gone sorry

01:32:47.460 if if you make it work you're the exception you're not the rule i hope you do

01:32:54.360 i really do i wouldn't bet on it if i was a betting woman elevating men yeah absolutely

01:33:00.680 And there are statistics that show that even when women and men in the same households are working the same amount of hours, they're both full-time working parents, men or women will be more likely to be in charge of the kids' schedules, do all of the housework, and have more of that mental load of the household.

01:33:18.220 So even when in our modern society where really economically people, families can't, a lot of us can't be single income, we have to be dual income, a lot of that load still lands on the woman and there's very, there's a domestic labor gap. 1.00

01:33:32.860 I think that follows with what young women are being told today, that marriage and motherhood is never something that you should pursue because it's going to be a

01:33:39.220 Our choosing, our choosing, our choosing, our choosing, our choosing, our choosing.

01:33:44.600 mental load on you it's going to bring stress and hardship and negativity to your life which

01:33:49.640 obviously manifests in the trends that we're seeing societally you know we have the lowest

01:33:53.960 marriage rate right now since we began recording marriage rates in 1867 and we hit an all-time low

01:34:00.360 in the last 100 years fertility rate in 2020 to the point that convincing that you are going to

01:34:05.800 be miserable when you tie the knot and spend the rest of your life with one individual that's

01:34:10.520 echoed through every single headline and viral social media video that we see at the exact same

01:34:14.920 time and even more so the life is going to be sucked out of you if you bring more life into

01:34:20.120 the world but that's been proven to be the opposite over and over and over again through

01:34:25.160 every generation the overwhelmingly happiest people in society who self-report the most

01:34:30.760 purpose the most meaning the most fulfillment in their life are mothers and wives so how do

01:34:35.880 you reconcile the difference between that yeah again depends on the studies that you look at

01:34:40.360 and i i mean you guys can just go on tick tock and you find both women treat tick tock like

01:34:46.520 their diary you'll find ladies that say oh i'm super happy trad life then you find women

01:34:52.760 complaining about their husband then divorce like i'm not discounting that the people that stay

01:35:00.360 married are the happiest could be but you got to get the state like choices reveal more

01:35:09.560 than what people say choices are going to reveal the most so but the the challenge is we can't make

01:35:18.520 free choices when the state is holding a gun to the men's head and making them stay 0.56

01:35:25.480 recognize you continue to use this word never women are told that they should never get married

01:35:30.520 and never have children and i i push back on that because i disagree again i think the idea

01:35:36.120 is encouraging choice encouraging intentional choice is this really the person you want to be

01:35:41.560 with is this someone you can see as a partner is this is being a mother something that you

01:35:46.760 couldn't imagine your life without women are not being told to never do those things 0.78

01:35:53.160 we're being told they are quite frequently actually not by you perhaps but by many many

01:35:57.400 people in society many of the most again they're being told being i'm just so over it

01:36:06.120 I'm so over women blaming society that caters to women 1.00

01:36:13.800 that we're being told by society which caters to us anyways

01:36:20.020 that we're being they make it sound like we're groomed into the choices we make

01:36:25.440 I mean how many people told the girl that had sex with a thousand men

01:36:30.700 a hundred men don't make that choice okay so that's all i got for you guys today

01:36:37.500 i just thought this debate was interesting i wanted to react to it let me know what you guys

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Pearl - December 12, 2024

Liberal and Conservative Women Are Not That Different ｜ Pearl Daily

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