Pearl - October 02, 2025


Marriage SCAM？ Bonnie Blue Calls Out the Bait & Switch


Episode Stats

Length

19 minutes

Words per Minute

193.39575

Word Count

3,842

Sentence Count

333

Misogynist Sentences

57

Hate Speech Sentences

33


Summary

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In this episode, we discuss the difference between being a sex worker and a gold digger, and the benefits of being an independent woman. We also discuss what it means to be a woman in the 21st century, and why it s better to be independent than to stay in a monogamous relationship.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 I think that's why people kind of respect Bonnie.
00:00:02.340 Respect is a strong word.
00:00:04.400 To be like the most successful gold digger in the world.
00:00:07.400 And you would have achieved all of that,
00:00:09.120 the travel, the living somewhere lovely,
00:00:11.640 all of this without the sex side of it.
00:00:13.660 See, I see them as more of a sex worker than me.
00:00:16.920 Because they're using their sex appeal.
00:00:19.520 They're using sex to pleasure their partner.
00:00:21.800 Their partner is then going to fund their lifestyle.
00:00:23.800 Their partner is then going to pay for holidays,
00:00:26.500 fancy clothes.
00:00:27.780 They're using sex just like I am.
00:00:30.000 However, I'm not afraid to admit I use sex to get what I want.
00:00:34.000 Whereas those people become very snobby, very uptight.
00:00:36.900 They look down on most people.
00:00:38.880 Yeah, they're still using their holes to pay their bills.
00:00:41.640 It's just someone else is doing it.
00:00:43.260 But I'm independent.
00:00:44.780 So you're like the more honest woman.
00:00:46.580 I actually think she's wrong about that
00:00:48.320 because women don't fuck their husbands.
00:00:50.540 So I actually think she's wrong about that
00:00:54.400 because if that were true,
00:00:56.560 then women would have to have sex with the husbands
00:00:58.620 and women do not.
00:01:00.000 It's called the bait and switch.
00:01:02.260 Authentic version.
00:01:03.440 For sure.
00:01:03.860 Like there's nothing I lie about.
00:01:06.300 There's nothing I, you know,
00:01:07.440 people call me slut, slag, whatever.
00:01:09.060 And I accept that.
00:01:10.340 And people call me a sex worker because I am.
00:01:12.020 Whereas if I was to say,
00:01:13.080 look, you've married your husband purely for his money.
00:01:15.580 In return, you give him sex.
00:01:17.460 They'd be like, no, I'm not a sex worker.
00:01:18.840 If they stopped giving him sex,
00:01:20.800 he's going to leave and go elsewhere.
00:01:22.280 But they can't.
00:01:23.140 They need, they need his money.
00:01:25.540 So is it also the vulnerability?
00:01:27.760 Like you, I mean, I think at this point,
00:01:29.580 you've earned so much money.
00:01:30.820 Yeah.
00:01:31.260 You're set up for life, I would guess.
00:01:33.500 Whereas I suppose a woman with a rich husband
00:01:36.260 at any moment, he could just pull the rug.
00:01:37.720 They're on contract.
00:01:39.060 Yeah.
00:01:39.720 They've got a longer shift than I have.
00:01:41.640 Well, so the rich husband,
00:01:48.180 I disagree with the leave
00:01:50.560 because obviously we can just steal his wealth,
00:01:53.420 child support, alimony, all that.
00:01:55.880 But again, it's the giving up the freedom.
00:01:59.200 That's why you hear women say,
00:02:00.900 I'm really, I'm trying to not moralize this,
00:02:03.180 but when women say I lost myself in marriage,
00:02:06.360 it's I had to be somebody that I'm not
00:02:09.300 in order to get the resources
00:02:11.540 and the attention from these guys.
00:02:13.680 That's why I say men that understand women,
00:02:16.640 usually the alpha fucks,
00:02:18.320 women have a tendency to be able to be themselves more
00:02:21.040 because the beta bucks guys have a tendency
00:02:23.660 to have these expectations,
00:02:25.400 like they expect the woman to be pure.
00:02:28.000 They expect the woman, you know,
00:02:29.660 and I'm not saying these expectations are wrong.
00:02:32.080 I'm just saying in 2025,
00:02:33.400 it's more and more rare.
00:02:38.640 And even if the woman is pure at the time,
00:02:43.560 usually if you really dig,
00:02:45.760 they're only pure for a period of time
00:02:47.620 until they crack.
00:02:49.160 Forever is a long time.
00:02:50.820 You know what I mean?
00:02:51.200 Like I try to humanize it in some way.
00:02:53.940 Forever is a long time,
00:02:56.300 especially in this country
00:02:59.240 where you have leverage on your husband.
00:03:00.980 Let me read the Supers.
00:03:04.460 Hold on, let me pull them up on my computer.
00:03:06.820 I used to have the most structured life.
00:03:08.620 I knew exactly what I'd be doing on a Tuesday midday.
00:03:11.160 Where'd we get lunch from?
00:03:12.880 And now I don't have a plan
00:03:14.400 because sometimes when you have a plan,
00:03:16.320 you become so fixated on the future.
00:03:17.980 What one year looks like,
00:03:18.940 what two years, five years down the line looks like.
00:03:21.280 And then you dismiss everyday happiness.
00:03:23.460 You become so fixated on what the future looks like.
00:03:26.060 You forget to live your life
00:03:27.260 and live in this moment in time.
00:03:29.000 So I can't say,
00:03:30.960 oh, it's going to be five years or 10 years
00:03:32.420 because it might be in one year.
00:03:33.860 I no longer enjoy it.
00:03:34.920 So I'll stop.
00:03:36.840 So there's no set plan.
00:03:40.160 And that's okay.
00:03:40.760 I much prefer my life now,
00:03:42.380 even though I don't know what
00:03:43.620 or where I'm going to be tomorrow,
00:03:45.340 let alone five years.
00:03:47.320 And you can't always say,
00:03:48.480 like when you was young,
00:03:50.080 you'd enjoy going to the park.
00:03:51.700 And then when you're a bit older,
00:03:53.240 you might enjoy it.
00:03:53.640 I actually think,
00:03:55.540 I hate that I'm agreeing with Bonnie Blue.
00:03:57.640 It's weird.
00:03:58.380 That's the annoying thing about her.
00:04:00.060 She's such a super slut.
00:04:01.760 But sometimes she says things in podcasts
00:04:04.540 that kind of make sense.
00:04:06.100 I hate that.
00:04:09.020 That's a more realistic approach.
00:04:10.840 Everybody thinks they know
00:04:11.880 how the future is going to go
00:04:13.080 and nobody really does.
00:04:14.140 Deleted, Dak.
00:04:16.480 I'm Yo Pearl, Champ.
00:04:17.700 Been watching your streams for a minute.
00:04:19.200 I respect the grind.
00:04:20.080 Not a lot of women out there
00:04:21.220 that stay logical and grounded
00:04:22.600 like you.
00:04:23.100 Solid takes.
00:04:23.780 And the piano work is on point, W.
00:04:26.280 My piano work is not really on point
00:04:28.140 if I'm being honest.
00:04:29.360 But I appreciate it.
00:04:30.480 I'm getting better, I think.
00:04:33.020 Williamson brought her on.
00:04:34.120 He has no shame.
00:04:35.120 I do declare.
00:04:36.140 I could judge him for it,
00:04:37.500 but I'm reacting to it.
00:04:38.920 So aren't I part of the problem too?
00:04:40.820 I'm dying here.
00:04:41.720 You got to stop.
00:04:42.520 You're killing me.
00:04:43.400 A $2 super chat.
00:04:45.460 Okay, we'll keep going.
00:04:47.060 And get close to birdwatching.
00:04:49.120 Like it always varies.
00:04:50.320 So I can't say
00:04:50.860 what's going to make me happy now
00:04:51.920 is going to make me happy in 10 years.
00:04:53.260 Do you think it would be difficult
00:04:54.060 for you to stop
00:04:55.000 given that you've attached
00:04:56.240 so much of your notoriety
00:04:57.640 and sense of identity to this thing
00:05:00.620 that if you've made a big song and dance
00:05:03.200 about this is what I want to do,
00:05:05.300 that if you no longer want to do it,
00:05:07.400 there is going to be this
00:05:08.660 social consistency bias,
00:05:10.700 this sort of momentum
00:05:11.340 that's behind you
00:05:12.060 where you go,
00:05:12.460 fuck,
00:05:13.880 like every person that said
00:05:15.480 she's not built for it
00:05:16.500 or this isn't going to be right,
00:05:17.520 I'm going to have to now do this U-turn
00:05:19.020 whether it is self-generated
00:05:20.620 or externally imposed.
00:05:22.240 Does that make sense?
00:05:23.240 Yeah.
00:05:23.400 That you have this sense of obligation
00:05:25.500 to what you promised in the past
00:05:27.620 about what you wanted right now.
00:05:29.080 Yeah.
00:05:29.280 I imagine that even you would struggle.
00:05:33.740 There's going to be a sense of,
00:05:35.240 fuck,
00:05:36.400 like I've got this weird obligation,
00:05:38.860 identity obligation
00:05:39.660 that I used to have.
00:05:41.800 I completely understand
00:05:42.940 where you're coming from,
00:05:43.660 but no,
00:05:44.040 because I don't care.
00:05:45.060 I don't really get peer pressured
00:05:46.460 into doing anything.
00:05:47.300 If I think something,
00:05:48.160 I'll do it.
00:05:48.540 And if I don't want to do something,
00:05:49.720 I'm very stubborn
00:05:50.640 and I won't do it.
00:05:51.620 So,
00:05:52.280 and I've always said,
00:05:53.740 I might not be doing it in 10 years.
00:05:55.120 I might be doing it in 10 years.
00:05:56.180 It depends if it makes me happy or not.
00:05:58.440 And even if I sat here today and said,
00:06:00.160 I'm definitely doing this in 10 years.
00:06:02.000 And then if in five years,
00:06:03.120 I change my mind,
00:06:03.960 that's fine because I'm in control
00:06:05.480 and the big difference
00:06:06.520 between me and other sex work.
00:06:08.960 That's more honest.
00:06:10.620 Cause that's really how women think,
00:06:12.400 you know,
00:06:13.180 the women that are dishonest,
00:06:15.000 that's,
00:06:15.240 I think that's why people kind of respect Bonnie.
00:06:17.880 Respect is a strong word,
00:06:19.640 but why people are fascinated
00:06:22.700 because she's actually being honest where,
00:06:25.220 women that get married,
00:06:27.740 I mean,
00:06:28.020 they don't know if they're going to say,
00:06:30.180 they leave half the time.
00:06:33.260 They definitely don't know.
00:06:34.260 So,
00:06:35.120 I mean,
00:06:35.500 that,
00:06:35.780 that mentality is actually more realistic
00:06:37.720 than a lot of what people say.
00:06:40.160 Wait,
00:06:40.740 one is I understand my limits.
00:06:42.820 I understand my body
00:06:43.680 and what I can take,
00:06:44.720 what I can't take.
00:06:45.780 So I'm never left distressed
00:06:48.000 or I'm never left thinking
00:06:48.980 that was too much for me to handle
00:06:50.500 because,
00:06:51.220 you know,
00:06:51.980 I sort of know what I can and can't do.
00:06:53.520 Have you ever hit your limit?
00:06:55.180 Not yet.
00:06:55.920 Right.
00:06:56.340 I've been very close to.
00:06:57.700 Okay.
00:06:58.100 Tell me about that.
00:06:59.080 I did a really big scene in America.
00:07:02.720 So I'd always done,
00:07:03.460 obviously I did the thousand in January
00:07:04.880 and then I did one in the US
00:07:06.760 in like March or April
00:07:08.420 with 50 porn stars
00:07:10.520 and their penises are a lot bigger
00:07:13.260 than the average person,
00:07:14.360 the way they have sex,
00:07:15.480 the way it's incredibly rough at times.
00:07:18.580 And that was hard
00:07:19.660 and I went into it quite naive.
00:07:20.960 If I was thinking,
00:07:21.780 well,
00:07:21.860 I've done a thousand,
00:07:22.540 what's 50?
00:07:23.420 But that 50 was really,
00:07:25.680 it was really hard.
00:07:26.600 How so?
00:07:27.620 Just very intense.
00:07:29.420 It was rough.
00:07:30.920 There was times where I could not see at all.
00:07:33.080 Like my eyes were completely filled with fluids.
00:07:36.340 And yet there's some positions
00:07:37.520 which I was like,
00:07:38.100 no,
00:07:38.200 I need to switch this up.
00:07:38.980 It's actually feeling,
00:07:40.060 you know,
00:07:40.780 a bit painful.
00:07:42.420 But that was fine
00:07:43.540 as long as I'm able to say,
00:07:44.400 hey,
00:07:44.480 I need to switch this position up.
00:07:45.820 Like you could be having sex
00:07:46.620 one person sometimes
00:07:47.700 and you think,
00:07:48.480 okay,
00:07:48.680 no,
00:07:48.820 my legs are flinching.
00:07:49.560 I need to switch this.
00:07:51.560 But you have to speak up.
00:07:53.340 You can't sort of sit there
00:07:54.540 and go through something painful
00:07:55.760 and then blame everyone else
00:07:57.420 for you being in pain.
00:07:58.940 Because if you don't tell someone
00:08:00.200 it hurts,
00:08:01.240 then how are they going to know?
00:08:02.360 You say a bit painful.
00:08:03.280 I mean,
00:08:03.400 I think most women
00:08:04.120 are like bowled over
00:08:05.880 the thought of how painful
00:08:06.860 it would be.
00:08:07.840 Yeah.
00:08:08.360 Do you like,
00:08:10.060 do you think that you're unusual?
00:08:11.480 Like not wanting to get into
00:08:12.740 anatomy.
00:08:14.540 Yeah.
00:08:14.820 Although it feels funny
00:08:15.500 saying like Bonnie Blue.
00:08:17.040 Do you have like
00:08:18.200 more physical endurance?
00:08:19.360 Like,
00:08:20.140 do you know how ironic it is?
00:08:22.740 She says,
00:08:23.760 oh,
00:08:25.200 like I could never do that.
00:08:26.660 But yet she's so interested in it.
00:08:29.120 You know what I mean?
00:08:29.520 Like imagine you're like,
00:08:31.060 oh,
00:08:31.300 I could never do Bitcoin.
00:08:35.180 But like what?
00:08:36.600 But you're asking like
00:08:37.540 20 million questions
00:08:38.720 about Bitcoin.
00:08:39.680 You're like,
00:08:39.920 are you sure you don't
00:08:40.640 want to do Bitcoin?
00:08:43.520 You know,
00:08:44.220 it's just,
00:08:44.780 that's kind of the,
00:08:46.200 women at look,
00:08:48.560 all women have the urge
00:08:51.180 to be a super slut.
00:08:52.440 Some women think about
00:08:53.640 the consequences.
00:08:56.420 Some women have too much
00:08:57.760 to lose.
00:09:01.980 But all women have that urge.
00:09:03.940 It's just,
00:09:04.420 it's in us,
00:09:05.020 unfortunately.
00:09:05.580 No,
00:09:06.260 I mean,
00:09:09.400 I've always said
00:09:09.820 I've been very athletic.
00:09:11.060 I've always been
00:09:11.900 quite fit and healthy.
00:09:14.280 But no,
00:09:14.760 like when I first started,
00:09:16.420 I didn't really understand
00:09:17.800 what turned me on
00:09:18.420 and what I enjoyed a lot more.
00:09:19.420 Like when I'm enjoying it,
00:09:20.800 I find I'm able
00:09:21.620 to have sex a lot rougher.
00:09:23.000 So now,
00:09:24.040 if I need to take more breaks,
00:09:25.160 I will.
00:09:25.480 I don't feel panicked
00:09:26.980 to sort of know what I'm,
00:09:28.760 I don't ever think,
00:09:30.180 oh,
00:09:30.360 I need to know
00:09:30.860 what I'm doing right now.
00:09:31.740 If I think,
00:09:32.620 you know what,
00:09:32.960 actually,
00:09:33.160 could I have someone
00:09:33.720 to lick me up
00:09:34.540 for five minutes
00:09:35.040 before we go again?
00:09:35.920 I'll happily speak up
00:09:36.840 and say that.
00:09:37.700 So,
00:09:38.740 but I do think I have
00:09:40.000 a good level of endurance.
00:09:43.700 How about emotional endurance?
00:09:45.460 Because another thing
00:09:46.300 that a lot of women
00:09:46.860 will think is,
00:09:49.580 like,
00:09:50.140 frankly,
00:09:50.920 a lot of these guys are gross.
00:09:51.960 Like I've seen,
00:09:52.960 I've seen videos
00:09:53.960 of your cues
00:09:54.540 and of the guys
00:09:55.120 who show up to the events
00:09:55.820 and they,
00:09:56.980 they can be old,
00:09:58.040 they can be fat.
00:09:58.760 Like probably some of them
00:09:59.560 smell,
00:10:00.220 I'm guessing.
00:10:01.040 Like they're not.
00:10:01.380 See,
00:10:01.580 everyone says this,
00:10:02.680 but in terms of their smell,
00:10:03.560 like,
00:10:03.700 yeah,
00:10:03.840 some of them are skinny,
00:10:04.660 some are fat,
00:10:05.520 like some are spotty,
00:10:06.660 some aren't,
00:10:07.040 but that's normal.
00:10:08.000 Like,
00:10:08.760 in terms of smell,
00:10:10.180 genuinely,
00:10:11.060 they never smell
00:10:11.680 and I think it's because
00:10:12.320 they're so nervous.
00:10:13.840 They know they're coming to me.
00:10:14.340 They've maxed out on links
00:10:15.140 before they show up.
00:10:15.540 A hundred percent.
00:10:16.180 Yeah.
00:10:16.400 They know they're coming to me
00:10:17.180 purely for sex.
00:10:18.180 So they have showered
00:10:18.900 just before I came,
00:10:19.660 they freshen up
00:10:20.260 just before they come in.
00:10:21.180 So in terms of smell,
00:10:22.260 no,
00:10:22.660 but even in terms of body shapes,
00:10:25.480 I used to say,
00:10:26.100 oh,
00:10:26.260 fat people are lazy,
00:10:27.280 like they actually irritate me.
00:10:29.020 But then when I became a sex worker
00:10:31.620 and I started to speak
00:10:32.260 to these men a lot more,
00:10:33.600 yeah,
00:10:33.820 some of them are fat
00:10:34.540 and I'd speak to them
00:10:35.480 and realize they're not necessarily fat
00:10:37.280 all the time
00:10:38.180 because they're lazy.
00:10:39.180 Their life is so busy.
00:10:40.500 They've got children now.
00:10:41.460 They're trying to pay bills.
00:10:42.680 They're trying to keep on top of things
00:10:44.280 and they can no longer prioritize,
00:10:46.040 you know,
00:10:46.580 clean eating all the time in the gym.
00:10:48.200 So I don't even judge
00:10:49.580 the fat ones anymore.
00:10:51.220 How nice of you.
00:10:55.580 I used to.
00:10:56.680 But you don't get any sense
00:10:58.080 of like physically recoiling.
00:10:59.940 Like I don't fancy this man.
00:11:01.460 You never get that.
00:11:02.240 One,
00:11:02.540 most of them have a blue ski mask on.
00:11:04.700 So in terms of their face.
00:11:05.520 So face-wise,
00:11:05.900 no.
00:11:06.300 Yeah.
00:11:06.920 I think if I really found someone unattractive,
00:11:08.720 the part I've struggled with most
00:11:09.760 is the kissing.
00:11:10.720 Mm-hmm.
00:11:11.260 Because
00:11:11.660 to me,
00:11:15.200 that's very...
00:11:15.800 I've heard women say that before,
00:11:17.620 actually.
00:11:18.080 Like having sex with a guy
00:11:21.080 you've ever kissed.
00:11:23.060 I've heard that before.
00:11:24.920 I don't know.
00:11:25.480 You connect a lot
00:11:26.020 when you kiss someone.
00:11:26.940 Mm-hmm.
00:11:27.620 But no,
00:11:28.720 like,
00:11:29.720 I don't always even see their face.
00:11:31.200 And I know this is going to repulse
00:11:32.120 a lot of people,
00:11:32.700 but I love the fact
00:11:33.600 there's like always a rotation.
00:11:34.880 I don't even always know
00:11:35.580 I've had sex with someone.
00:11:36.780 I don't always know
00:11:37.500 who's inside of me.
00:11:40.200 But no,
00:11:40.840 I don't get repulsed.
00:11:42.460 I sort of see everyone
00:11:43.320 as they're there for a reason.
00:11:45.380 I don't know what's happening
00:11:46.540 behind their closed doors.
00:11:47.520 And I'm there purely
00:11:48.940 to give them a good experience.
00:11:50.240 And that's all I sort of focus on.
00:11:52.220 Some of them are obviously
00:11:52.820 more attractive than others.
00:11:53.900 Again,
00:11:54.220 that mentality.
00:11:55.160 Imagine if wives
00:11:56.140 had the mentality of,
00:11:57.360 oh,
00:11:57.380 I'm just here to give him
00:11:58.240 a good experience.
00:11:59.340 How much better
00:11:59.920 the experience would be for men.
00:12:02.220 That's why,
00:12:02.860 that's why a lot of men
00:12:03.660 go the prostitution route.
00:12:05.300 And that's why
00:12:05.740 a lot of sex workers
00:12:06.700 get married.
00:12:07.480 This is an uncomfortable reality.
00:12:09.680 People don't like this.
00:12:10.860 But a lot of the women
00:12:13.420 that engage
00:12:14.900 in soft prostitution,
00:12:16.900 as long as there's
00:12:17.680 no big digital footprint,
00:12:19.800 a lot get married.
00:12:22.660 A lot do.
00:12:23.620 Even the ones
00:12:24.320 with digital footprints.
00:12:26.340 You know,
00:12:26.660 we all have this idea
00:12:27.640 that women will have
00:12:28.400 consequences for their actions.
00:12:31.500 Not really.
00:12:33.500 Not really.
00:12:34.520 Never.
00:12:34.880 Pretty much never.
00:12:35.560 The ones I'm like,
00:12:39.600 oh,
00:12:39.720 I wouldn't date you.
00:12:41.120 But even if you walk past
00:12:42.560 someone attractive in the street,
00:12:43.660 that's not what's going
00:12:44.200 to make you come.
00:12:45.160 It's the way they are.
00:12:46.100 Their technique.
00:12:47.340 And I can remember
00:12:47.860 when I was
00:12:48.600 a full service worker,
00:12:50.360 one of my clients,
00:12:51.560 he was a bit bigger.
00:12:52.360 I didn't find him attractive.
00:12:53.600 And if anything,
00:12:54.120 he repulsed me a little bit.
00:12:55.040 I know.
00:12:55.340 They're saying
00:12:55.760 she's more understanding
00:12:57.360 than normal women.
00:12:58.740 How understanding
00:12:59.620 are normal women?
00:13:01.000 I'm telling you,
00:13:02.120 you got to look at the way
00:13:04.520 a lot of these
00:13:06.000 sex workers act,
00:13:07.100 the top ones,
00:13:07.880 because there's a reason
00:13:08.660 that men are subscribing to them.
00:13:10.680 Even Sophie Ritchie,
00:13:12.260 the OnlyFans girl,
00:13:13.340 if you look at how she poses,
00:13:14.660 the stuff she does,
00:13:15.840 it's all catered to men.
00:13:17.080 I don't know
00:13:17.420 if it's their personality
00:13:18.420 or if they're taught
00:13:19.640 by some sort of pimp
00:13:20.800 or whatever.
00:13:22.120 But,
00:13:23.440 look,
00:13:23.840 there's something
00:13:24.260 you can learn.
00:13:26.200 She has demon eyes.
00:13:28.700 I don't really think so.
00:13:30.080 I think she just
00:13:30.660 has had Botox.
00:13:31.740 She made me orgasm.
00:13:35.220 And I was like,
00:13:35.840 oh God,
00:13:36.260 should I be disgusted
00:13:37.320 in myself
00:13:37.740 that this guy
00:13:38.360 that I don't find attractive
00:13:40.140 has just made me come?
00:13:41.620 And then I realised
00:13:42.200 it's not to do with
00:13:43.200 their looks,
00:13:44.160 it's their technique
00:13:44.760 and how they treat me
00:13:45.700 in the bedroom.
00:13:47.380 That you get to sleep
00:13:47.980 with someone really attractive
00:13:48.820 and they're terrible in bed.
00:13:51.100 So you do have a threshold.
00:13:52.420 Like,
00:13:52.560 sometimes you will find men
00:13:53.880 slightly repulsive at least,
00:13:56.260 but it's not
00:13:56.940 so high a threshold
00:13:58.420 that basically everyone...
00:13:59.880 Obviously I look at different people
00:14:01.240 and think you're more attractive
00:14:02.160 than the other person.
00:14:02.940 I prefer your body shape
00:14:03.800 to the other one.
00:14:04.280 Like,
00:14:04.460 everyone's got preferences
00:14:05.400 and I know I have.
00:14:06.900 But I never look at someone
00:14:07.840 and think,
00:14:08.600 I don't want you near me.
00:14:11.060 Interesting.
00:14:11.900 I remember Rachel Moran
00:14:12.980 who is a...
00:14:14.160 She was
00:14:14.640 a prostitute
00:14:16.740 as a teenager
00:14:17.300 in Dublin.
00:14:18.200 Yeah.
00:14:19.580 She...
00:14:20.580 Something that she says
00:14:21.420 to women
00:14:21.820 to try and like
00:14:22.840 help them to understand
00:14:23.640 what it's like
00:14:24.200 to be in prostitution
00:14:25.960 is imagine being on a bus
00:14:27.760 or in a cafe or something
00:14:28.540 and look around
00:14:29.220 every single man in that room
00:14:30.380 and think,
00:14:30.920 I have to have sex
00:14:31.600 with every single one
00:14:32.180 of these men.
00:14:32.860 Like,
00:14:33.280 old,
00:14:33.760 young,
00:14:34.100 fat,
00:14:34.360 whatever.
00:14:35.360 And she uses that
00:14:36.960 as the thought experiment
00:14:37.820 for women
00:14:38.200 because overwhelmingly
00:14:39.380 they respond like,
00:14:40.280 ugh.
00:14:41.300 And what's unusual about you
00:14:42.240 is you don't respond,
00:14:43.000 ugh.
00:14:43.300 Yeah.
00:14:43.760 You actually embrace it.
00:14:44.240 I think if they were smelly
00:14:45.220 and like stuff like that,
00:14:46.640 that would really get me.
00:14:47.460 Like,
00:14:47.580 smell,
00:14:47.820 I just think stick some deodorant
00:14:48.700 on or have a shower.
00:14:49.700 Like...
00:14:49.900 Uh-huh.
00:14:50.380 But because they don't smell,
00:14:52.660 like that was,
00:14:53.200 that's my biggest thing.
00:14:53.880 I think it's smart,
00:14:54.540 especially because they're going
00:14:55.020 to be in my mouth
00:14:55.740 and I'm licking them.
00:14:56.700 Yeah.
00:14:57.200 But in terms of looks,
00:14:58.720 I really don't judge
00:15:00.440 and I probably used to.
00:15:02.680 But now...
00:15:03.400 Have you trained yourself
00:15:03.800 out of it a bit?
00:15:04.780 Not trained myself.
00:15:05.680 I've spoke to them
00:15:06.420 for years now
00:15:07.760 and hours on end.
00:15:09.000 Like,
00:15:09.560 if someone's got bad skin,
00:15:10.680 it's not her fault
00:15:11.300 all the time.
00:15:11.880 Sometimes it's because
00:15:12.680 they've got a terrible diet
00:15:13.420 and they're lazy
00:15:13.840 and they're not washing
00:15:14.640 their face and everything else.
00:15:15.740 But some people
00:15:16.660 just have bad skin.
00:15:17.620 Some people are super skinny.
00:15:19.580 Some people are fat
00:15:20.340 and I'm always
00:15:22.580 very open-minded.
00:15:23.880 And I think that's allowed
00:15:24.940 me to drop the judgment
00:15:25.880 and drop the,
00:15:27.180 you repulse me.
00:15:28.180 Because I might see
00:15:29.300 someone really fat
00:15:30.140 and some of them
00:15:31.320 come in with genuinely
00:15:33.380 not even an inch
00:15:34.380 and they're massive
00:15:35.060 and I can barely find it.
00:15:36.480 But I think,
00:15:37.100 you know what?
00:15:37.620 You've come to the event.
00:15:39.280 Like,
00:15:39.740 this might really boost
00:15:40.620 your confidence.
00:15:41.240 I don't know.
00:15:41.620 You might be really
00:15:42.160 stressing outside of this.
00:15:43.420 You might be having
00:15:43.820 a bad life.
00:15:44.780 Like,
00:15:45.000 how many women
00:15:46.400 put themselves
00:15:47.660 in their husband's shoes?
00:15:51.140 Has a woman ever done that?
00:15:52.740 One in the chat
00:15:53.440 if a woman's ever done that.
00:15:55.400 Two,
00:15:55.920 if that's never happened,
00:15:57.500 you've never heard a woman
00:15:59.400 think outside of herself.
00:16:01.260 It's just not.
00:16:02.800 It's kind of crazy
00:16:03.660 how she dresses more classy
00:16:05.220 than a lot of women.
00:16:06.040 reason of why you're so fat.
00:16:08.460 But I just want to give you
00:16:09.380 a good,
00:16:10.120 you know.
00:16:10.540 Very philanthropic
00:16:11.420 in that way.
00:16:12.920 What do you think
00:16:14.180 sex is for?
00:16:16.700 Do you think of it
00:16:18.140 as something?
00:16:18.660 Is it sacred,
00:16:20.160 relational,
00:16:21.040 recreational,
00:16:22.140 nothing?
00:16:22.820 Is it the same
00:16:23.380 as walking?
00:16:25.720 It's a hobby.
00:16:26.640 It's fun.
00:16:28.720 And there's not really
00:16:29.640 much to it
00:16:30.200 like,
00:16:31.180 else I think about it.
00:16:32.500 Before,
00:16:33.480 I used to have
00:16:33.980 a really low body count
00:16:35.160 prior to being
00:16:35.860 a sex worker.
00:16:36.980 I couldn't imagine
00:16:37.780 having sex with someone
00:16:38.480 unless I was dating him
00:16:39.480 or unless I imagined,
00:16:40.980 you know,
00:16:41.200 I wasn't having sex
00:16:41.820 on a first date.
00:16:42.920 Now it's within seconds.
00:16:44.740 But,
00:16:45.780 to me now,
00:16:46.360 sex is just a,
00:16:47.440 it doesn't have to mean something.
00:16:48.720 I can still enjoy it.
00:16:49.740 It's a,
00:16:50.240 it's an orgasm.
00:16:51.820 And it's
00:16:52.560 as simple as that.
00:16:55.220 Before,
00:16:56.500 how old were you
00:16:57.160 when you became
00:16:57.620 a sex worker?
00:16:58.620 Uh,
00:16:59.220 24.
00:17:00.860 I mean,
00:17:01.000 two years,
00:17:01.480 so 24.
00:17:02.140 And that was straight
00:17:02.800 into OnlyFans?
00:17:04.080 Yeah,
00:17:04.340 well,
00:17:04.540 I did come in
00:17:05.120 for a couple of weeks.
00:17:05.960 Okay.
00:17:06.180 Maybe for like
00:17:06.880 two to four weeks
00:17:07.700 I did come in
00:17:08.360 and that really
00:17:09.540 boosted my confidence.
00:17:11.120 Um,
00:17:12.020 and then I set up
00:17:12.900 OnlyFans.
00:17:13.720 So before then.
00:17:15.640 And that's common.
00:17:16.800 Women,
00:17:18.080 I mean,
00:17:18.520 ask the men
00:17:19.280 that have sex tapes,
00:17:20.540 whose idea was it?
00:17:22.840 I'm serious.
00:17:24.000 It's not the,
00:17:24.820 you know,
00:17:25.060 women are like,
00:17:25.800 teehee,
00:17:26.200 I would never do that.
00:17:27.280 In the bedroom,
00:17:28.060 they're like,
00:17:28.320 whip out your phone,
00:17:29.540 you know?
00:17:29.920 Look,
00:17:32.020 I,
00:17:32.720 and there's,
00:17:33.220 there's like TikTok
00:17:34.100 and Instagram reels
00:17:36.080 that go viral
00:17:37.240 about this stuff
00:17:38.100 because men are told
00:17:38.800 one thing
00:17:39.300 and then they start
00:17:39.860 banging women
00:17:40.500 and it's just
00:17:41.380 whoredom.
00:17:43.760 You said he had
00:17:44.500 a low body count.
00:17:45.400 You wouldn't do like
00:17:46.440 gang bangs off camera.
00:17:48.220 And yeah,
00:17:48.560 this is the other thing.
00:17:49.600 There's no guarantee
00:17:50.560 your mother,
00:17:51.560 your wife,
00:17:52.180 your sister,
00:17:53.060 whatever,
00:17:53.740 is going to stay
00:17:54.720 not a whore
00:17:55.400 just because she's
00:17:56.120 not a whore now.
00:17:57.760 Remember,
00:17:58.400 there's a lot
00:17:58.900 of forces
00:17:59.580 really pushing
00:18:01.660 the sisters
00:18:03.080 to the wives,
00:18:05.600 the mothers,
00:18:06.400 the daughters
00:18:07.060 to be whores.
00:18:08.200 There's a lot
00:18:08.800 of stuff.
00:18:09.600 The friends
00:18:10.200 are going to be
00:18:10.680 pushing it.
00:18:11.720 The institutions
00:18:12.640 are going to be
00:18:13.320 pushed.
00:18:13.680 I mean,
00:18:14.160 when I went to
00:18:14.740 college,
00:18:15.320 oh my God,
00:18:16.160 I got to tell you guys,
00:18:17.140 I forgot this happened.
00:18:18.780 Oh,
00:18:19.020 I forgot this happened.
00:18:20.500 I went to school.
00:18:24.840 Oh,
00:18:25.420 okay,
00:18:26.000 have you seen the movie
00:18:26.880 Hitch,
00:18:27.480 anybody?
00:18:28.000 If you're younger,
00:18:28.740 you might not have,
00:18:29.360 but it was like a movie
00:18:31.800 about a dating coach,
00:18:32.920 a guy who was a male
00:18:33.680 dating coach,
00:18:34.660 and he helped this
00:18:35.800 fat guy get this woman
00:18:37.280 out of his league
00:18:37.940 pretty much.
00:18:38.920 And the guy that
00:18:41.120 that movie was based
00:18:42.340 on came to our
00:18:43.500 college,
00:18:44.240 and it was so weird.
00:18:45.620 They separated us
00:18:46.600 from our parents.
00:18:49.260 And I can't remember
00:18:51.060 exactly what this guy
00:18:52.340 talked about
00:18:52.980 because this was
00:18:53.540 10 years ago.
00:18:54.760 All I remember
00:18:55.820 was him
00:18:56.980 talking about
00:18:58.000 what are erotic
00:18:59.180 zones for women,
00:19:00.400 like what parts
00:19:01.160 of our body turn,
00:19:02.200 like he was saying
00:19:02.860 like neck,
00:19:04.020 I'm not going to
00:19:04.740 get too into it.
00:19:05.820 But,
00:19:06.580 and I remember
00:19:07.600 sitting there like,
00:19:08.560 why are we,
00:19:09.620 aren't I in,
00:19:10.240 and this was a
00:19:11.040 conservative like
00:19:12.060 Christian
00:19:12.580 school.
00:19:15.500 This was like
00:19:16.180 this small town
00:19:17.480 in Ohio
00:19:18.140 and it was like,
00:19:21.060 and so,
00:19:22.260 you know,
00:19:22.600 you might drop
00:19:23.300 your kid off
00:19:23.940 at a conservative
00:19:24.640 Christian school.
00:19:25.520 You know,
00:19:26.100 my parents were
00:19:27.000 conservative and
00:19:27.760 Christian and I
00:19:28.460 had a sister who
00:19:29.200 was a diehard
00:19:29.940 feminist for a while.
00:19:31.920 I fixed her,
00:19:32.900 don't worry,
00:19:33.440 I tell my dad
00:19:34.120 I'll take the credit.
00:19:36.940 But when she was
00:19:38.060 like a diehard
00:19:38.720 feminist,
00:19:39.720 do you know who
00:19:40.200 gave her those ideas?
00:19:41.220 It was like a
00:19:43.160 horse trainer.
00:19:44.880 It was a trainer
00:19:45.840 for,
00:19:46.120 like you don't
00:19:47.980 know who's in
00:19:48.600 your kid's ear
00:19:49.360 or what accounts
00:19:50.800 they're going to
00:19:51.260 start watching.