Pearl - November 08, 2026


Married Man Gets PERSONAL After Pearl Questions His Wife's LOYALTY

Friendship Expert Gets GHOSTED by Her Friend of 20 YEARS @JustPearlyThings Woman Keeps LOSING Friends… Then Admits She NEVER Forgives Anyone @JustPearlyThings

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00:00:00.000 child support that's enslavement if you go through the numbers like yeah it can really
00:00:04.560 send men into poverty absolutely yeah but again that's just saying that there's a there's a risk
00:00:10.160 for marriage but like why do we don't determine things are worthwhile because they have a risk
00:00:17.600 buying a house investing all of these things you do you absolutely do you always weigh the risks
00:00:23.200 no i said we don't determine something's worthwhile if it has big risks yes yes you do
00:00:30.980 so when people go skydiving this has a big risk i would think about the risk right but you wouldn't
00:00:38.040 would you say that it can't happen because it has risks but i can't what like you're saying
00:00:45.080 a traditional marriage can't happen in 2026 correct right and you're saying that because
00:00:49.880 of the risks but like if women have the power because women have the power correct what so 0.87
00:00:58.520 how does that mean it can't happen the power then you could have a traditional marriage 0.93
00:01:03.800 i don't know what you mean so when you say have the power you're just saying because when 0.75
00:01:07.720 they divorce they they get more benefit out of the divorce than the men there's a lot of ways women
00:01:13.160 enough power right that's one of them social status social media power men men have this too 0.95
00:01:19.800 no they don't yeah if i was to go with like my own marriage i have social media access my wife
00:01:26.060 doesn't well um stephen crowder's wife didn't have any social media access and that won't especially
00:01:32.420 if you're a yes yes that is true that's true and the greatest way as a woman to get a social media
00:01:40.140 following if the guy has a social media following is to talk about your trauma from the guy so just
00:01:45.740 because she doesn't have access right now doesn't mean she ever will she will never have access
00:01:51.420 so they're in legally you cannot legally restrict it it can be used against you in court so but
00:01:57.740 because you can't leave camera but i just don't understand where that means you can't have the
00:02:03.740 thing like so people used to traditionally farm right now i can go to the grocery store and get
00:02:09.740 those groceries if i start growing my own food is it not traditional farming all of a sudden right
00:02:14.140 because that would be in the decision of a man right no not the decision of a woman no
00:02:19.900 i'm asking you would it still be traditional farming i wouldn't say this is the same equivalent
00:02:25.420 because if the farm fails you're not enslaved to the farm yeah but you're talking about the
00:02:29.980 failure of it you're not talking about the actual actions of what's happening what does
00:02:35.500 what does a successful marriage look like well this is a successful marriage would be weighed
00:02:41.100 all different things but if we're talking about a traditional marriage primarily it's the man is the
00:02:47.980 provider and the woman is the homemaker and child wear and is that it that's all you need
00:02:53.100 that's what's typically in a tradition what would you say is she would have to obey yeah that's
00:02:59.340 that's what he would have to be able to enforce what do you mean by be able to enforce um
00:03:05.340 how can you how you have to be able to legally tell your wife no and you can't legally she can
00:03:12.860 use that against you in court by saying no well you can for now right now until you talk to the
00:03:18.380 judge i i don't understand what that means like if you tell her don't spend money on the credit card
00:03:24.860 that can be used against you in court because that can be financial abuse if the marriage fails
00:03:30.140 right but so if the marriage doesn't fail it's a traditional marriage well um if there's a surplus
00:03:37.660 of people staying married then i'll concede but there's just not what do you mean by staying
00:03:42.220 married like so you say that a lot too there's a 50 that's not an ind so you know that's not
00:03:47.260 mathematically saying individually each person has a 50 chance of their marriage that that when you
00:03:54.140 you say when they're when they're talking about 50 of marriages yeah okay whatever number it is
00:03:59.560 right that's not saying each individual marriage has a 50 chance of of failing it's saying that in
00:04:06.300 a group event right 50 is is failing that's not taking into consideration the dynamics between
00:04:13.580 the people the financial differences all this stuff um someone brought up earlier how uh the
00:04:19.800 all the benefits and you said well this is because like healthy people tend to marry healthy people
00:04:24.120 well then you would have to switch this around and say the divorce rates is because toxic people
00:04:29.900 marry toxic people what i found actually that actually wasn't true this the the study that
00:04:35.020 girls cited they always do this they do this during debates just so you guys know i found out
00:04:39.400 that study was ai so they'll really confidently say a study and i'll think because i always
00:04:43.500 question myself i'm like well they sound really they sound really confident in this and then
00:04:48.600 after i'll leave the debate and i'm like let's look up this study and i swear to god guys it's
00:04:54.260 always worse than you think you can just i'm gonna do a show on this when i get back but yeah that
00:04:59.680 study was a billion dollar company that used ai um or the family institute they reference a lot
00:05:05.280 which is really biased and they really well there's a bunch of different studies on this
00:05:09.660 married men tend to have more money they live longer yeah but they don't include the men that
00:05:15.260 get that start off married and then get divorced and like they they manipulate the data in a lot
00:05:20.300 of different ways well we could just say this about the studies that you're saying show that
00:05:24.940 there's a 50 failure well not really because there's like an honest way to do it in a dishonest
00:05:30.940 way so but we're not going to get into the you know right yeah right but like the point is that
00:05:37.380 wouldn't be a 50 to each individual so like telling a whole generation of men you shouldn't
00:05:43.380 try to create i don't say should you're right you don't say should but your your conclusions
00:05:48.580 of it is that there's all these failures which you're not talking about the benefits so you
00:05:54.840 anybody listening to you would take the conclusion is don't get married okay why don't you go through
00:05:59.880 the benefits yeah like i said so married men tend to live longer uh pardon according to who
00:06:06.280 there's a couple different studies that show this live longer live longer have more money
00:06:12.820 let me get the study name have more money please don't say lending tree
00:06:18.980 or family institute because that's really biased sorry i wrote down a bunch of notes here
00:06:26.820 i get it you know i actually hate when people do that but i'm just so tired of these
00:06:33.000 fake ones going around it's just yeah here go ahead all right we'll do a little
00:06:37.560 U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
00:06:40.360 And how did they collect the data?
00:06:42.100 It was based on what?
00:06:42.840 I didn't write that part down here.
00:06:44.460 So you don't even know.
00:06:45.620 No.
00:06:46.160 I said that's an onion.
00:06:48.180 I could do this to you in reverse. 0.89
00:06:50.120 I bet you can't tell me the methodology of your 50% divorce rate.
00:06:53.600 Go ahead.
00:06:53.780 Well, it's from census data.
00:06:54.680 What's the methodology?
00:06:56.060 They look at census data.
00:06:57.500 They just look at census data?
00:06:58.940 Yes.
00:06:59.280 And what are they weighing?
00:07:00.920 If people filed for divorce.
00:07:02.380 Does it include multiple divorces or only one?
00:07:05.760 Yes, it usually includes multiple.
00:07:07.080 so then that's a really bad way to do that right because if it's including multiple you can't have
00:07:12.520 the same person over and over divorcing that's why they break it down that's why i say about 50.
00:07:17.800 that's why i don't give a specific number is because i know that so thank you okay i've been
00:07:23.720 doing this i've been doing this for five years so but okay so do you believe traditional marriage is
00:07:31.000 a foundation of traditional societies it was but it's not anymore it's just cosplay look at what
00:07:39.480 can you do what do you mean by it's not anymore you used your marriage you used your marriage as
00:07:43.440 an example yeah yeah go ahead what can you do if she files if she files what for divorce what can
00:07:48.520 you do can you stop her no what what would you okay what would that have to do with it being
00:07:53.600 can you legally tell her to stop spending money yeah i can tell her to stop spending money but 1.00
00:07:59.240 can she use that against you later she she uh she could but she's doesn't and that's but that 0.93
00:08:05.360 how long have you been married the the possibility doesn't determine what's happening how long have
00:08:10.460 you been married about three years okay that's just not the possibility to make a determining
00:08:14.740 anyone can do anything for three years anyone can do anything for three years that's just a
00:08:19.100 crazy absolute statement you just made it's not okay hold your breath for three years go ahead
00:08:25.320 yeah exactly so anybody can know you're being disingenuous by saying anyone can do anything
00:08:30.600 accurate no that's that's something you keep saying you're being accurate but you're not 0.94
00:08:34.260 so this is this is what women do this and nitpicking and married men always pick up 0.60
00:08:37.940 they always have a hard time accepting this this is like this is i'm telling you guys i do this
00:08:43.420 i have the same conversation with guys right and they they it's like the same exact conversation
00:08:48.860 then they come back like eight years later it's cooked so i hope it's not you though i hope you
00:08:53.980 make it i'm definitely gonna make it um they said too so yeah that's good but that you're
00:09:00.640 you're ignoring the the enormous amount of traditional marriages that are going on right
00:09:06.880 now why don't i say and then you sit why don't because you hang out with wrong people i guess
00:09:11.980 you know that the reason that the clearly because you all you have is this skewed view how do you
00:09:18.540 okay you're right i don't know but i would assume i would assume that you hang out with a lot of
00:09:24.540 toxic people that don't have good marriages or you've witnessed a lot of not good marriages and
00:09:30.220 this is why you come to this right but if you look at society so do i yeah and we're saying
00:09:35.900 the opposite thing right because you're you have an ego investment and not believing it because
00:09:40.460 like it's pretty scary to know it could happen to you so what do you mean i know it can happen to me
00:09:46.700 just like i know when i get in my car i can get in an accident on the way home it's not the same
00:09:51.340 at all it is the same you're saying because of the risk you can't have this thing say that everything
00:09:57.180 in life just trusting just trusting sean to come here you took a risk calm down calm down no yelling
00:10:04.700 so yeah so yelling yeah okay that must be the woman in you i get it i'll take it i understand
00:10:11.180 it probably i got it um but you understand just trusting sean to come to this facility you had to
00:10:17.740 take a risk right does that mean you didn't come here yeah well a 50 risk is pretty high
00:10:24.460 and that does change the how do you know your percentage of risk coming here that's not what
00:10:28.620 i was talking about i was talking about marriage i know and i was talking about your risk to trust
00:10:32.300 somebody just trusting somebody adds a risk you have the the risk of coming to this podcast really
00:10:39.020 this is how we want to spend our time this is how maybe what i'm saying is going over your head
00:10:44.300 i'm saying you're saying trying to say it's don't determine something can't happen yes it does
00:10:51.260 higher higher risk would determine something is less likely to happen no not less likely to happen
00:10:58.060 can't happen that's what you said i said it doesn't happen i said it does i said traditional
00:11:02.700 marriage doesn't exist because i could have swear the problem was traditional marriage can't happen
00:11:08.220 in 2026 that is the the prompt is you can't have a traditional marriage in 2026 and i was right
00:11:14.140 again just in an you should start listening to the men my friend my friend and just an effort to help
00:11:19.260 unstuck some folks here i i believe the the premise of the positions are mr speakeasy's position is
00:11:27.100 some people can have it and pearl is essentially saying the mechanism underneath it can be enforced
00:11:33.020 the moment one of the parties pulls the rip cord so with that being the persistent state of what is
00:11:39.580 going on it isn't functionally i think that's where the disconnect is because i mean but you
00:11:44.940 two are debating i'm saying it's just cosplay you can pretend to have it yeah you just have it for
00:11:48.940 now you have to let me finish you just have it for now right now in the moment so like you can
00:11:53.980 you can have it so i do have it you can't have it until you don't so that's everything anything
00:11:59.180 you have that pen until you don't anything that like goes against traditionalism like i put it 0.91
00:12:05.160 like you can't exist in society and not be a feminist all people are feminists what everybody's
00:12:12.880 a feminist where do you get this from because anything that's not traditionalism how old was 1.00
00:12:17.080 your wife when you met her what does that what does that have to do with do you because traditional 1.00
00:12:22.280 your definition earlier of traditional marriage had nothing to do with age like yeah but if we
00:12:26.760 go on a historical measure traditionalism is the woman comes with a dowry did your wife come with
00:12:31.020 a dowry probably not did she get married young between 18 to 25 no probably not uh it did were
00:12:37.200 there zero sexual partners prior to marriage no so those all have to be included for a traditional
00:12:41.960 marriage because otherwise it's just pick and choose it's the men do everything the men protect 0.66
00:12:47.600 and provide they do their traditional role and the women bring nothing so you define and just 0.62
00:12:52.460 have to they always you guys always fight to call like we want to give women like they want to give 0.67
00:12:59.060 women my wife listen to everything i want to give shut up i'm talking man i know you're rambling so
00:13:04.740 we want to give women the benefit of calling a marriage traditional without having to do anything
00:13:09.080 so i'm saying i'm saying here are the requirements and you're saying oh you don't have to meet those
00:13:14.780 requirements i'm still going to call it traditional you can call it you can cosplay you're saying that
00:13:18.320 it doesn't make it you're saying if someone makes a choice in their life that so that means later
00:13:25.040 they can't fulfill a traditional role in a marriage because they made some type of choice
00:13:31.080 earlier in their life yes it's cosplay okay well i would say you don't abandon something that's
00:13:38.640 actually valuable to people and society simply because there's a risk of losing it like we
00:13:45.640 wouldn't have so many things in life if you just abandon it because there's a risk of losing it
00:13:51.960 i didn't say to abandon it i just said it seems like that's what like you i asked you earlier do
00:13:58.300 you think a traditional marriage would be the best for a traditional society we're not in a
00:14:03.200 traditional society do you think would it be what if we had more traditional marriages would it be
00:14:09.060 beneficial to a traditional society i don't deal in possibilities i deal in what is and i don't
00:14:14.500 sell dreams to people i think it's mean you actually don't deal in what it is because you
00:14:18.580 just told me my marriage isn't a traditional marriage because it can fail what is happening
00:14:24.320 is traditional but you said because it hasn't even succeeded yet so how come years what like
00:14:29.200 it hasn't succeeded yet in your in your subjective view it hasn't succeeded yet you haven't even made
00:14:34.380 it to the average like the first divorce and you have this ego it's like first divorce i've been
00:14:38.700 married once i don't plan to ever get married again i'm gonna be married till i die pearl
00:14:42.820 that makes it even less traditional because i've been married only once oh sorry i thought you meant
00:14:47.620 before i misheard you oh okay i think you meant before okay any it's weird that you add these
00:14:53.700 like stipulations into what you think traditional earlier you just said traditional marriages are
00:14:58.740 marriages that happened when it was a time that needed traditional marriages that was like a
00:15:02.980 circular definition that means nothing you understand that's true no it's an empty platitude
00:15:07.140 i mean you cannot like it i don't care i know i know you don't care i'm just saying it doesn't
00:15:12.420 it doesn't mean anything though you know that well it would be more accurate than what you're
00:15:15.820 saying which is cosplay so it's definitely not more accurate than anything completely you literally
00:15:21.320 say i said my you described the traditional marriage i i said around i said that you would
00:15:29.080 have to be in a time period where men have power and they can enforce it so that that would make
00:15:34.300 traditional because men would have the leverage you'd have to be in a time period where women are 0.95
00:15:38.700 required to do something like be young be hot be thin not have mental illness not have previous 0.78
00:15:45.500 sexual partners right but we're not doing that so it's not traditional have a doubt like women 0.62
00:15:51.420 used to have to come with a dowry we now we have college debt so you're saying call it traditional
00:15:56.940 pretend like i have to feed into this delusion it's it's delusion it's not traditional it's just
00:16:02.380 because you the way you describe traditional marriage it just doesn't make sense it's not by
00:16:07.100 the roles that's happening totally accurate sorry go ahead go you don't describe traditional marriage
00:16:13.660 by the roles that's happening within the marriage you you describe uh traditional marriage about the
00:16:19.740 things that happen after and the things that happened before not during the marriage that
00:16:24.300 makes absolutely no sense your prompt here should have been something like about divorce because
00:16:29.340 that's the thing you have an issue with not marriage marriage leads to divorce marriage
00:16:33.500 doesn't lead to divorce that doesn't make sense marriage leads to divorce does driving lead to
00:16:39.020 car accidents yes that's what you said that really that's the way you follow it does driving lead to
00:16:45.660 car yes oh my gosh so every marriage leads to divorce i just want to hear that that's not what
00:16:51.740 i said so how does marriage lead to divorce explain that for us you're just going to ask
00:16:55.740 a million questions well yeah you're the one you're the one with the positive position obviously
00:17:00.480 i'll explain if you don't interrupt me so again i'm gonna i'm gonna go back to um all things that
00:17:05.820 are not traditional um all things that are feminism go against traditionalism so traditional
00:17:10.100 marriage historically was when men had the power and could enforce so right now women have all the 0.97
00:17:15.200 power in marriage and that really does influence the power dynamic women have the power of the 0.60
00:17:18.880 state behind them they have the power to put the man in alimony and child support unfortunately this
00:17:22.800 is not what I wish to be true, but I have to be accurate here. The next thing is before marriage,
00:17:28.260 women are supposed to be with one man for life and virgins on their wedding day, married between 0.97
00:17:32.280 about 18 to 25. That's historically accurate, and that is traditional. Nowadays, we're pushing 0.58
00:17:37.920 marriage older with more experience before marriage. That is modern. That is not traditional.
00:17:43.840 People are meeting on dating apps online. That's the number one way people are meeting. That's
00:17:48.280 modern that's not traditional traditional is an arranged marriage with a dowry nowadays you come
00:17:53.940 with college debt like i could go into and what he's going to do and this is what he keeps doing
00:17:58.880 he picks out one thing of all of those things right which make perfect sense this makes perfect
00:18:04.200 like anyone listening to this knows that i'm making a point right and that all of those things
00:18:09.320 do go against traditionalism then he's going to say oh well that one thing you didn't say that in
00:18:13.340 beginning yeah because it was inferred because back in the day you were with one guy for life
00:18:18.940 50 years that that it was a three-year marriage right at that point it's cosplay you have to make
00:18:23.900 it past i don't know the first divorce the first divorce the first of this they always do this
00:18:31.100 amount of roll to make points so the first divorce mark which is around eight years the second one
00:18:35.740 which is around like 15 and then the third divorce mark which is 20 right and they make it past none
00:18:41.820 of these marks and they have this huge ego my marriage is different my marriage is so special
00:18:47.020 they say it in my face it's happened to me so many times then they come back a few years later
00:18:52.220 divorced cooked just like everyone else unfortunately um they always shoot the messenger
00:18:57.260 you know no one i hate that i have to be the bearer of bad news i wish it wasn't me but no
00:19:02.220 one else is going to do it because they have to deal with this complete insufferability 24 7
00:19:07.660 by delivering information that's negative it doesn't make you liked it doesn't make you popular
00:19:12.700 it really uh you bring frowns to people's faces that's why i try to do it cheerily
00:19:17.340 but um it doesn't make it inaccurate and a lot of times they bring in these studies uh which i'd
00:19:23.420 like to say are always they always manipulate and extrapolate the data in some way to make
00:19:27.660 it very misleading um they always quote the institute for family studies which is essentially
00:19:32.620 propaganda um because they have an agenda they're trying to push fit they have that on their website
00:19:36.700 that's not an unbiased source. So yeah, that's, that's what, that's my point is that today in
00:19:42.760 2026, I'm having a traditional, a quote unquote, traditional marriage is near impossible. It
00:19:49.200 doesn't exist because of all of the systems that are in place because of society and the lack of
00:19:54.840 requirements before marriage. They don't exist. If the men are requiring virgins on their wedding
00:20:00.600 day, that would be more traditional, but men don't ask nowadays. So that's more modern, right?
00:20:06.120 if you were meeting at your church, that would be more traditional. But they're not. Most people
00:20:11.920 are meeting online. That's more modern. And then the next thing they do is they say, well,
00:20:15.780 there's this one exception. Then we go through the questions, right? I'll say,
00:20:19.980 hey, you told me about this exception. Then I go in and I say, okay, well, did they do anything
00:20:26.200 required to be exceptional? Were they married a long time? Were they arranged by the family? Did
00:20:30.840 they have a dowry? Did they have this, this, this? Then they say no. And then they compare it to a
00:20:35.400 car accident and that that's where i'm at i hate being the bearer of bad news but it's just me
00:20:41.880 um but that's that's all i got all right mr speakeasy your your closing remarks of you will
00:20:47.240 get plenty of equal time no it's a it's it's not much i have to say okay this uh your definition
00:20:54.680 of traditional marriage i think is just bonkers it's defined by the roles that the husbands and
00:20:59.960 and the wives fulfill in the marriage um this would be like saying because christianity used
00:21:06.140 to be deeply embedded in the legal and cultural institutions now you can't actually there's no
00:21:12.240 actual christians today guys because it's not the same as it used to be in history it's just 1.00
00:21:16.660 the stupidest shit i've ever heard um again i agree with most of what you say i just think this 1.00
00:21:22.600 that what you do to discourage men from trying to create traditional families is is it's damaging 1.00
00:21:28.400 to the society and it's it's leading towards more of the shit that you say you don't like 0.99