Pearl - June 21, 2025


Masculinity Is The First Target When Controlling Men! @ItsComplicatedChannel


Episode Stats

Length

2 minutes

Words per Minute

184.94978

Word Count

485

Sentence Count

11

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

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Transcript

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Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 The way that masculinity is being defined, I think, is a big problem.
00:00:03.560 And, you know, one of the questions that I want to ask at some point coming up is,
00:00:08.500 do you think men are smart enough to realize that masculinity is the first thing
00:00:11.960 that anyone will attack when they want to control men?
00:00:15.440 That's a real—I just did it. That's a really good question.
00:00:18.140 It's complicated.
00:00:19.000 Yeah. What do you think the answer is?
00:00:21.340 Do you think men—because when I hear that question, my mind goes two ways.
00:00:27.320 one way is i've seen men take some really really bad deals in my lifetime but i don't i think
00:00:35.220 social media also has opened the floodgates where women used to be a lot more deceptive and they
00:00:41.000 can't be like you know i see like on tiktok and stuff women getting like ratioed when they tell
00:00:46.920 like a abuse story or you know what i mean like and that just never used to happen like 10 years
00:00:52.140 ago so or men you know realizing that they're the bailout guy where i don't like 10 years ago they
00:00:59.900 just kind of fell for it because we didn't have all this media that's my initial thought but i
00:01:04.420 don't have an answer so i'm curious what you think well like okay if i had to answer my own question
00:01:09.180 i would say that you know so so masculinity is almost like this this pre-scripted idea that
00:01:17.700 this identity that men have to follow where I guess you like, okay, you know, man up and get
00:01:25.100 married or, you know, okay, if you're, if you don't do A, B, and C, you're not a real man. So
00:01:31.240 masculinity is also the first thing that's promoted when they want to control men. And I
00:01:35.480 think that, you know, you see trad cons doing this. You even see some red pillars doing this.
00:01:39.900 They will say things like, you know, you know, oh, you're, you've got really feminine energy
00:01:45.280 right now or you're a beta male or you're simp or you're a weak man or you're gay first thing and
00:01:51.360 i think that the strongest men are the ones who don't fall fall prey to that even following up in
00:01:58.080 that in that logic train i was going to say do you think it's true that our society is more willing
00:02:03.600 to accept gay men than it will accept straight men who don't meet masculinity standards oh my gosh
00:02:09.340 that's such i yeah i think you're right like they're more willing to accept gay men than
00:02:15.420 yeah so then why do we see gay men as more oppressed than straight men when straight men
00:02:20.940 can't even be themselves without following this masculine script have you done a video
00:02:25.020 with that one that's coming up okay that was like that that is a great line of questioning wow