Pearl - Masculinity Under Attack： Men Losing the Battle for Marriage and Respect @ItsComplicatedChannel

00:00:00.000 when I've seen you call out the trad cons, usually, uh, you'll call it like, I love the,

00:00:04.700 uh, the interview that you did with, with Michael Knowles. Uh, we've talked about, you know,

00:00:07.920 marriage and it not being, you know, a good deal for men. And, um, in my last episode about the

00:00:12.900 dowry, I actually used a clip of that, um, where he basically said, you know, that if you get a

00:00:17.560 prenup, it invalidates the sacrament and all that other stuff. But, um, not only do we talk about,

00:00:23.820 um, how the trad cons view marriage and, you know, they're not really doing enough as we would all

00:00:29.820 like to see them kind of, you know, reform the laws and the family courts and remove the liabilities

00:00:34.260 when it comes to, uh, marriage, but also just how they view masculinity, how, you know, being a man

00:00:40.900 is all about, uh, protect, provide, sacrifice, serve, don't complain. Um, and so the way that

00:00:49.260 masculinity is being defined, I think is a big problem. And, you know, one of the questions

00:00:54.640 that I want to ask at some point, uh, coming up is, do you think men are smart enough to realize

00:00:59.160 that masculinity is the first thing that anyone will attack when they want to control men? 1.00

00:01:04.420 That's a real, I just did it. That's a really good question.

00:01:07.300 It's complicated.

00:01:08.160 Yeah. What do you think the answer is? Do you think men, do you think men, because when I'm,

00:01:14.300 when I hear that question, my mind goes two ways. One way is I've seen men take some really,

00:01:20.160 really bad deals in my lifetime, but I don't, I think social media also has opened the floodgates

00:01:27.720 where women used to be a lot more deceptive and they can't be, um, like, you know, I see 1.00

00:01:33.900 like on Tik TOK and stuff, women getting like ratioed when they tell like a abuse story or 1.00

00:01:39.860 do you know what I mean? Like, and that just never used to happen like 10 years ago. So,

00:01:43.480 uh, or, um, men, you know, realizing that they're the bailout guy where I don't like 10 years ago,

00:01:51.660 they just kind of fell for it. Cause we didn't have all this media. Um, that's my initial thought,

00:01:56.920 but I don't have an answer. So I'm curious what you think.

00:02:00.140 Well, like, okay. If I had to answer my own question, I would say that, um, you know,

00:02:04.720 so, so masculinity is almost like this, this prescripted idea that this identity that men

00:02:13.240 have to follow, um, where, um, I guess you, um, like, okay, you know, man up and get married

00:02:23.120 or, you know, okay. If you're, uh, if you don't do a, B and C, you're not a real man. So masculinity

00:02:29.860 is also the first thing that's promoted when they want to control men. And I think that, 1.00

00:02:34.140 um, you know, you see trad cons doing this, you even see some red pillars doing this.

00:02:38.900 They will say things like, uh, you know, you know, Oh, you're, you, you've got really feminine 0.99

00:02:45.200 energy right now, or you're a beta male or you're simp, or you're a weak man, or you're gay. 1.00

00:02:49.880 First thing. And I think that the strongest men are the ones who don't fall, fall prey to that. 1.00

00:02:57.260 Um, even following up in that, in that logic train, I was going to say, um, do you think

00:03:02.840 it's true that, uh, our society is more willing to accept gay men than it will accept straight 0.99

00:03:08.760 men who don't meet masculinity standards? Oh my gosh. That's such, I, yeah, I think you're 0.51

00:03:15.200 right. Like they're more willing to accept gay men than, yeah. So then why do we see gay men 1.00

00:03:21.800 as more oppressed than straight men when straight men can't even be themselves without following 0.80

00:03:26.320 this masculine script? Have you done a video with that one? That's coming up. Okay. That

00:03:29.940 was like, that is a great line of questioning. Wow. Um, no, cause you're totally right. Like

00:03:36.880 people will shame. I mean, I even use the simple and I can't help it. Uh, yeah, but I mean,

00:03:42.320 I think that, uh, it's, it's, it's all about, you know, that's just, you see it everywhere

00:03:48.900 on social media. Women do it. Uh, trad cons do it. Some red pillars do it. It's like, it's 0.99

00:03:55.780 like, this is what a real man is supposed to be. And I'm saying, well, why another line

00:04:02.400 of questioning that I've used in, in a, in a past episode was when we talk about what

00:04:06.720 empowers men and what empowers women, why is female empowerment all about liberation 0.73

00:04:12.500 and choice while men's empowerment is all about masculinity, duty and sacrifice, which

00:04:18.720 is actually the opposite of liberation and choice. How can what empowers one gender be 1.00

00:04:23.760 the opposite of what empowers the other? So for women, it's more freedom. And for men,

00:04:28.360 it's more duty and responsibility. And so what's going on here, you know?

00:04:33.080 So what is your goal with your content? Do you have like, um, an end goal that you're

00:04:37.860 hoping to achieve or, uh, I'm just kind of curious what, uh, like in five years you're

00:04:43.340 hoping to get,

00:04:44.220 I think that we need to have more honest conversations about what masculinity truly means,

00:04:50.900 what, what it means to be a man, what the expectations are of women, what the expectations

00:04:55.100 are of society. Um, I think that what's happening right now is, um, you know, are we going to

00:05:01.260 accept a world of double standards or are we going to try to, you know, level the playing

00:05:06.040 field and actually have equality? Now, what's happening is a lot of times people say, well,

00:05:10.820 men and women can't be equal because we're not the same, but I don't think that's necessarily

00:05:14.940 true because nobody in our society is truly the same, but we should have, you know, different

00:05:20.480 races aren't the same, but we should all have equal rights under the law. We have equal

00:05:25.600 justice. So I think that, you know, just to say that men and women, you know, should there

00:05:32.520 be double standards just because we're not the same? I mean, I understand that, you know,

00:05:36.040 we have different strengths and we have different weaknesses, but I think that, um, you know,

00:05:40.620 to have these, these very strict roles is a very, uh, is a very kind of a strange idea

00:05:46.560 in a society where the laws aren't the same. The technology is different. We're just where

00:05:51.740 it's a completely different culture. And, you know, uh, I think that another question

00:05:56.880 I wanted to ask you, actually, I'll, I'll, I'll throw it back at you. Um, if you had to

00:06:01.420 choose, what would you rather see? Would you rather see women go back to the way they were 1.00

00:06:06.800 before feminism, or would you rather see men liberated from their masculine role? 0.93

00:06:12.820 I, I would rather, um, I think the only solution to feminism is more feminism. 1.00

00:06:21.860 So I, so, so I only think like when women start getting the same sentences as men, 0.57

00:06:28.120 that they might stop like hitting them, for example, right? When they actually start being

00:06:33.220 put in jail or, you know, women with the right to vote when they start actually having consequences 0.98

00:06:39.480 for what we vote for instead of being bailed out. Um, that's more what I would like to see. I'd

00:06:45.300 like to see more fair laws where we're actually equal under the law. Okay. Well, for example,

00:06:49.780 um, when we talk about, uh, false, uh, accusations, right? I've heard a lot of people,

00:06:54.140 um, you know, suggest the idea that there should be an equal punishment for a false accusation

00:06:59.700 as if, you know, you were convicted of that accusation, but obviously, yeah, we need to

00:07:04.300 have more accountability, um, or, you know, equal accountability, I guess, for these things,

00:07:09.560 because, you know, if, if, if women don't have skin in the game, there's no incentive. Correct. Yeah. 1.00

00:07:15.160 So I think that, um, it, it comes down to the fact that, uh, I think, you know, I don't know if

00:07:21.040 it's necessarily, you know, it's going to be a combination of asking more of women and maybe

00:07:24.980 slightly less of men. And also women are having like, I'm one of 10 kids. We're having like one

00:07:31.160 and a half. I don't know if that's enough to be a housewife. Well, like one kid, you could go like

00:07:38.140 be a teacher or something. Well, I mean, is it, is it, I read a comment this morning where someone

00:07:42.820 said, is it, is it surprising for women to expect women to want to have children when women are now

00:07:48.220 expected to be in the workforce and providing for even for themselves? Well, yeah, but the average is

00:07:54.880 1.5. Yeah. So to me, I don't, I mean, men still want to have kids, even though they have to work.

00:08:01.580 Right. It's true. Yeah. So I don't, I just don't think women want to be mothers as much as we 0.99

00:08:07.200 originally thought, because if we wanted to, we would have. So, so how do you respond then when

00:08:11.980 people say that, you know, women naturally want to be that way? Like, in other words, if it was 1.00

00:08:15.240 natural, why did it change? I don't think it was. And the reason, you know, it made me come to this

00:08:20.160 conclusion. So it was, um, I couldn't believe how mad women got over abortion when I like, 0.94

00:08:26.880 it was like, that was the most visceral when I would debate women where they would just get so 1.00

00:08:31.100 angry. I'm like, why are you so angry over just a difference in opinion? Um, and I used to fight

00:08:37.000 really hard because, um, my parents like adopted kids. And so pro-life was just something I kind of

00:08:42.700 grew up with. Um, but then I just realized that the infant mortality rate is very similar to the

00:08:49.900 abortion rate today. Wow. So that leads, I don't have proof or evidence of this, but just anecdotally

00:08:57.120 arguing with women and seeing how much they just fight to what I would view as abort their children, 1.00

00:09:03.480 kill their children. I think it's always been like this. I think it's like now that social media is 0.94

00:09:09.480 here. We have like, we can see what women actually are. It's well, it's you disagree or agree? Well,

00:09:16.080 I think that, uh, yeah, I mean, I can see that, but I also think that, um, as far as women wanting

00:09:23.500 to be able to, um, it just comes down to the fact that women want to be able to have the choice to do 0.99

00:09:28.600 that. I mean, obviously I think that, uh, uh, like I used to always kind of wonder about this. It's like,

00:09:34.080 okay, well, the women who are having abortions, do we really want those women reproducing anyway and 1.00

00:09:38.520 stuff? Cause they're probably just going to raise more, you know, male feminist children and stuff, 1.00

00:09:42.500 I guess. So. I mean, I just, I just think it's useless to fight over it. Like they'll just,

00:09:49.260 they'll die. Like I think the pro-life movement, like, yeah, they got Roe versus Wade, but if you

00:09:54.640 think a plan B is an abortion, which they do, I mean, those are like through the roof. Yeah. So I just

00:10:01.020 don't see it going anywhere in my lifetime, but it would be interesting to like, I think men,

00:10:07.120 like we've talked about this, but our men should be able to opt out of child support if women can 0.99

00:10:11.300 opt out of motherhood. Like, and that's what I mean. The financial abortion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

00:10:15.580 that's what I mean. I think the solution to feminism is more feminism. Like we asked to be free. Here you 1.00

00:10:21.040 go. Well, the, one of the things that I was looking into was the idea of, uh, back in the seventies.

00:10:28.700 I mean, I'm sure you've heard of Warren Farrell, for example, right? He was, uh, kind of like

00:10:32.860 the father of, of, uh, this men's liberation movement, um, where basically, you know, in the

00:10:40.600 seventies they were trying to, you know, liberate women, but then they were also trying to liberate

00:10:44.400 men. There's actually a famous black and white photo on the internet, um, of a protest where it

00:10:49.620 said, you know, let's share custody. And they wanted mandatory 50, 50 physical custody. And they

00:10:54.120 also wanted, uh, men to be viewed as more than just success objects. Meanwhile, today we're promoting

00:11:01.480 the very opposite of that. We're saying that, uh, men should be success objects. And so I

00:11:08.260 think that, um, maybe revisiting that idea of maybe gender roles can be more fluid or more

00:11:15.080 of a choice as opposed, as opposed to more of an expectation. Um, so what would that look

00:11:21.020 like to you? So like, you know, relationship beginning to end, how would it go? Well, I mean,

00:11:27.000 I think that, uh, um, you know, there are plenty of things that women are capable of that they're 1.00

00:11:34.480 not doing just because they believe that that's a man's job, you know, like anything women don't 1.00

00:11:38.720 want to do is automatically labeled masculinity, right? I mean, women, women are perfectly capable 1.00

00:11:44.940 of approaching men for business, but they won't approach men for relationships. And it's crazy

00:11:51.280 because if women approach men, they're far more likely to have success than if men approach women.

00:11:55.960 Plus women don't like being approached by the men that they're, that they don't like. So we kind of,

00:12:00.460 um, so you'd like to see women approach men. Oh, absolutely. I think that that would,

00:12:04.440 that would definitely, um, but you know, a lot of people will say, Oh, but that, you know,

00:12:07.620 the man is supposed to lead. And it's like, well, you know, the women control the dating market, 1.00

00:12:12.080 but the men are somehow the leaders. And it's kind of a weird, you know,

00:12:15.120 they kind of did that in Bumble. Like now that everything's digital, do you think that works?

00:12:18.740 Of course not. Because what is, when a woman messaged you on Bumble, what's, what's her 1.00

00:12:22.720 message? Hey, that's all they say to say, Hey, and nothing else. And then they still expect the

00:12:27.000 man to kind of take over. In fact, I even asked a question about this similar. I said,

00:12:31.020 okay, if men are expected to protect women because they're physically stronger,

00:12:35.860 why can't women pay all the bills? Why are both duties assigned to the man? So there are plenty of, 1.00

00:12:41.100 you know, I mean, cause we still have this, this idea, you know, his money is, is our money and,

00:12:46.540 you know, her money is her money. And I'm saying, okay, well then what are women 1.00

00:12:48.700 working for? You know what I mean? So there's plenty of things that women are capable of. 1.00

00:12:52.820 And it's like, okay, well then step, step up and prove it. But we're always expecting the men to

00:12:56.620 step up to delusional standards. Men have more, we're asking more of men than has ever been asked

00:13:04.420 in history. And the other thing too, is women's money is way easier to get. It is far easier to 1.00

00:13:10.260 make money as a woman because like at 22, you could go be like a pharmacist. Like there are girls 1.00

00:13:15.500 from my school that went and made six figures right out of college as a pharmaceutical sales rep.

00:13:20.000 How long would that take a guy to do? Well, women are getting, you know, they have female 1.00

00:13:24.320 only scholarships. Women are getting, obviously there was all the DEI stuff. I don't know how

00:13:29.640 that's changing now with the new administration. You also have the, you know, I mean, women, 1.00

00:13:36.460 they always have a bailout. They could do OnlyFans if they want to. They, I mean, women, you know, 1.00

00:13:41.720 female bartenders, female hostesses, you know, cocktail waitresses in Vegas. I mean, 1.00

00:13:46.980 they make a lot of money just because they can use their looks to open a lot of doors.

00:13:52.320 Is that a thing here? I've heard that they, there's like in Vegas, really hot, like broke

00:13:59.000 guys that they're, that they just live off of these bottle girls. Is that a thing? 1.00

00:14:03.060 Uh, I, I don't know. It's, it's, it's possible. I mean, I'm sure that you do interviews all

00:14:09.540 the time. You'd never run into anything like that.

00:14:11.560 Uh, not so much, but that would be a good question. Like maybe just kind of find out

00:14:15.100 like, yeah, do you got some, uh, you know, some Chad living with you who, uh, I mean,

00:14:19.620 I mean, look, I've heard some women saying, you know, Oh, you know, I've, I've taken care 1.00

00:14:24.440 of men before, but I mean, are women going to take those men seriously for a relationship

00:14:29.120 or are they just looking for an F boy? You know what I mean? So. Yeah. There was a guy

00:14:33.000 I knew in London and that was his play is he went and got really jacked and he would

00:14:39.220 just hit on like 32 year old lawyers and live for free in London. Well, that's the thing

00:14:46.360 also. It's kind of like, yeah, he, he kind of reversed the system where he's like, I'm

00:14:51.240 just going to go to the gym. It's easier than getting a job. Yeah. Well, well, well, well,

00:14:56.620 it's funny too, because, uh, it was kind of like, I remember when I was at the, uh, the,

00:15:00.640 uh, the AVN awards and I was interviewing the sex workers. Um, I asked a question about,

00:15:05.260 uh, if a, uh, unwanted pregnancy happened during the shooting of a professional scene,

00:15:10.680 because obviously sex work is filmed without condoms. Um, then, you know, is there anything

00:15:16.320 that the man can do to avoid being held responsible for child support? And, um, this, uh, woman said

00:15:21.680 to me, well, you know, if, if I get pregnant, then I'm definitely going after that man for

00:15:25.580 child support. And I said, well, actually, since sex worker, female sex workers are getting 1.00

00:15:30.300 paid more than male sex workers. Wouldn't you be the one responsible to pay child support? 1.00

00:15:35.400 What'd she say? Um, actually, well, it's unfortunate because I didn't think of that at the time. I

00:15:40.120 thought of that after the fact. So that's the thing. Sometimes, um, you know, follow-up questions

00:15:45.340 will come a little bit late. Like, you know, I said, oh, I should have said this or should have

00:15:48.580 said that. But, um, but I did kind of, uh, I don't know. It's just, I think that, um, even when

00:15:54.040 I'm doing like street interviews, sometimes it's like so noisy. I mean, just like, this

00:15:57.800 is one of the noisiest cities. I mean, I'm out on the strip, you know, on, you know, a

00:16:01.400 Friday or Saturday night and you've got motorcycles and helicopters. And sometimes people are like

00:16:05.460 right in front of your face and I can't hear what they're saying. And so there's times

00:16:08.740 where I want to follow up or sometimes I think of, you know, a good follow-up that I

00:16:12.160 couldn't say later. And so, you know, it's just, uh, you know, I'm an evolving creator

00:16:18.300 just like you are and stuff. I'm learning new things, you know, as I grow, if you look at

00:16:21.540 my earliest stuff, I'm thinking, oh, I could have said this. And, you know, so we're all

00:16:26.040 learning. So, okay. So you'd like to see women approach men. Like what other masculine

00:16:30.480 like duties would you say? Would you like men to be like? The idea that the idea that

00:16:34.660 men are expected to be the sole providers or that, you know, or just this, this notion

00:16:39.480 that, you know, I mean, you know, that men have to have all this money. I mean, who's advocating

00:16:45.740 for the average man? Do we want to live in a society where only the top 10, 20%

00:16:51.420 of men get all the women and then the bottom 80% of men are all just celibate? And then

00:16:56.840 what's going to be the incentive for them to want to do anything? And then we're sitting

00:17:01.940 here and we're saying, you know, oh, well, men are weak because they want to stay home

00:17:05.000 and play video games. And it's like, well, what should they do? Go out and be in the

00:17:09.200 social scene and get, you know, abused and get ripped off. So I think that what's happening

00:17:14.620 is I almost believe that the male loneliness epidemic might be by design because I think

00:17:20.440 that, you know, the whole idea that sex sells. And, um, I think kind of like everyone's

00:17:27.500 exploiting men now. Everyone's exploiting that problem. I think that, um, I think that there

00:17:33.440 are feminists exploiting those lonely men to try to sell them only fans. And there are 0.80

00:17:37.520 trad cons exploiting those lonely men to try to sell them marriage, which is an unfair

00:17:41.200 deal. And there are dating coaches trying to exploit those lonely men to sell them courses 1.00

00:17:46.220 and self-improvement. So I guess how would that, I'm just trying to think of a world,

00:17:53.860 like, do you think that's even possible where, um, men, like women are really going to approach

00:18:00.980 men? Like, you know, I'm not, I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice. I'm just wondering if you

00:18:06.100 think, or that like, um, yeah, go ahead. I think what happens is, is, uh, necessity is

00:18:13.720 the mother of invention. People do what they have to do. Obviously I think that, that the,

00:18:18.520 you know, the reason a lot of men simp is because they kind of have to because men, you know,

00:18:25.220 you ever hear the expression, all men pay. It's like, it's like, even if you're not paying

00:18:28.880 with your money, you pay with your money, energy, attention, and time you men have to earn it. So 0.69

00:18:34.880 it's kind of like men just have to play the game and women are the ones who make the rules. And so 0.94

00:18:41.420 what ends up happening is, um, I think that it just comes down to a question of who has the leverage

00:18:46.860 right now, women control access to sex. Sex is the ultimate power and women know this and women 1.00

00:18:53.900 abuse this. And so men are basically stuck, you know, I mean, men have a higher biological need

00:18:59.860 for sex and women. I think men actually like sex is a need for, for most men. And so, um, I think

00:19:06.640 that in order to kind of like level the playing field, I mean, I'm not necessarily saying like,

00:19:10.900 you know, women have to approach men, but in other words, I believe that women are coming from an 0.69

00:19:14.380 abundance mindset. Men are coming from a scarcity mindset. Of course, unless you're like that top,

00:19:18.940 you know, 10% man who has women approaching you. And the whole idea of women approaching is kind

00:19:23.840 of not that far fetched because a lot of these dating coaches want to sculpt men to become that 1.00

00:19:29.080 super high value men that women chase. So women will chase the minority of men, but men are chasing 0.93

00:19:35.900 the majority of women. So I think what has to happen is there has to be some kind of shift in, 0.72

00:19:41.580 in leverage. And I think a big thing that would help that is men being given more access to more

00:19:49.660 sexual access. In other words, I think what's happening right now is everyone's telling men

00:19:52.780 step up and pay a higher price to the point where they're overpaying. I think what we need to focus

00:19:58.820 on is I think we need to figure out ways to lower the price. Um, I've done several episodes on, I think

00:20:06.420 that, that legalization of prostitution. I know it's a very, uh, controversial topic. Not a lot of

00:20:11.680 people talk about it, but I think if prostitution was safe and regulated prostitution, I'm not talking

00:20:17.200 about streetwalkers. I'm talking about if we had brothels and men could go get sex anytime they 1.00

00:20:21.160 wanted. I think that women would have to be forced to bring more to the table because sex wouldn't be 1.00

00:20:27.120 enough. Do you see that in Vegas? Cause isn't it semi-legal here? Um, not necessarily. It's legal in

00:20:36.660 Pahrump, I believe, or in, uh, Nye County. Uh, it's like a, I think it's like a two hour drive away, but it's

00:20:41.860 not, it's not convenient. It's not affordable. Most people can't afford, you know, a three to five

00:20:47.360 hundred dollar, you know what I mean? But, um, what we have right now is almost worse than prostitution

00:20:52.520 because I think men are paying for the opportunity to maybe get it, but they're not actually getting 0.93

00:20:56.300 it. Um, and so I think, you know, I mean, I've even asked the question, you know, if Megan could get

00:21:03.380 sex anytime they want, almost like go to a massage parlor or almost like we have dispensaries for, you know,

00:21:08.760 um, I think that, that if that was available to men, I think they wouldn't, they wouldn't feel the

00:21:15.120 need to, uh, to overpay. They would be more selective because they would, you know, and I

00:21:20.420 think there'd be no reason to be with a woman other than love. And I could actually see that 0.99

00:21:24.260 potentially happening. Could you? Well, I mean, why not in Vegas? I mean, yeah, makes the most sense

00:21:30.680 here to start with, but, um, I don't know. I mean, it's, it's, it might be an unfortunate reality

00:21:37.600 that we're headed towards, but I know that trad cons definitely wouldn't like that because it

00:21:41.780 promotes degeneracy according to their, yeah. But if they cared about degeneracy,

00:21:46.160 they would promote young marriage and they don't. Well, yeah. Like if they, if, cause like sex is a 0.73

00:21:53.260 need and people are going to have sex with somebody. So if you're not promoting people to get married

00:21:57.960 at, like, when does the sex drive start? Like, I don't even want to say it. Cause we're not like,

00:22:02.740 it's kind of uncomfortable and we're on YouTube, but it's like, it's pretty young. So like, if we're

00:22:07.480 having sex, like urges from the time you're 14, 15, 16 years old, like, you know, even at 22,

00:22:15.980 most people aren't going to be virgins if they have the choice. Yeah. So I'm like, unless you're

00:22:22.360 promoting a young merit, like young marriage, what are people going to do about their sex drives? I was

00:22:27.340 just on a Christian show like five days ago. And I was, it just premiered today actually. And I was

00:22:33.180 arguing with the guys and saying that sex was a need for men and that if Christians like cared 0.94

00:22:38.240 about degeneracy, they would push young marriage like 18. Someone told me also that, uh, I think,

00:22:43.960 um, you know, could that possibly even keep marriages together? I mean, it's, it's, someone said

00:22:50.900 something about like, uh, I think it was in Japan where, where married men will go off and go see,

00:22:55.580 you know, concubines or whatever it is, you know, kind of on the side and the wives just don't want 1.00

00:23:00.320 to hear about it. Um, but I'm not sure. I mean, it's, you know, should men be stuck in a dead 0.98

00:23:06.420 bedroom marriage? You know what I mean? Cause I mean, obviously when we talk about marriages,

00:23:09.660 a lot of times men are hostages within their own marriage and, you know, women are paid to leave

00:23:14.000 and men, you know, it's cheaper to keep her. Oh, I'm not saying that like guys, especially in this

00:23:18.520 climate should get married at 18, but I'm saying if the conservatives cared about degeneracy,

00:23:23.040 they'd push it. Right. Cause then that problem solved. Yeah. I, I kind of, uh, had this question

00:23:28.760 about that. I said, why is it that anything feminists don't like, they label misogyny and 1.00

00:23:34.080 anything that, uh, trad cons don't like, they label degeneracy. Oh, wow. That's a good question.

00:23:41.440 That's a good question. So it's just two competing ideologies.

00:23:53.040 Yeah.

00:23:54.500 Yeah.

00:23:56.440 Yeah.

00:23:59.760 Yeah.

00:23:59.860 Yeah.

00:24:01.940 Yeah.

00:24:03.980 Um, yeah.

Pearl - June 15, 2025

Masculinity Under Attack： Men Losing the Battle for Marriage and Respect @ItsComplicatedChannel

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