Pearl - December 11, 2024


MEN Are Learning It's NOT Worth Protecting Women Anymore ｜ Pearl Daily


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Former Marine Daniel Penny was found not guilty of the murder of a homeless man on the subway and is now a free man. In this episode, I talk about the case and the reaction from Black Lives Matter and other organizations.

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00:00:00.000 So as you guys know, Daniel Penny got into an altercation with a homeless man on the subway.
00:00:06.140 Essentially, this man was threatening to kill people on the subway.
00:00:10.940 He was threatening to attack people.
00:00:12.640 And Daniel Penny was a former Marine.
00:00:14.800 And so he took the liberty of restraining him on the subway.
00:00:19.460 Now, unfortunately, because this was a schizophrenic drug addict, he died after he left the subway.
00:00:26.040 Now, unfortunately for Daniel Penny, he was actually prosecuted for this case.
00:00:30.320 So he actually, the last two years, has been in court being prosecuted for murder.
00:00:36.800 Now, there was some good news in all of this is that he was actually just found not guilty.
00:00:43.120 So on all charges, he's officially a free man.
00:00:46.360 Now, I'm first going to show you guys some of the footage that's being released of him talking about the case
00:00:52.700 and the response from Black Lives Matter and other organizations.
00:00:57.140 And then I want to talk about the lesson that men are learning from this.
00:01:00.580 East Village in Manhattan.
00:01:01.860 So I take the subway multiple times a day.
00:01:04.340 In this instance, I was coming from school.
00:01:06.200 I got out of class around 2.15.
00:01:08.260 And I took the, I was at J Street Metro Tech, took the Uptown F train at 2nd Avenue.
00:01:13.560 A man came on, stumbled on.
00:01:15.400 He appeared to be on drugs.
00:01:16.920 The doors closed and he ripped his jacket off and threw it at the people sitting down to
00:01:22.140 my left.
00:01:23.100 I was listening to music at the time and he was yelling.
00:01:26.020 So I took my headphones out to hear what he was yelling. 0.99
00:01:29.380 And the three main threats that he repeated over and over was, I'm going to kill you. 0.99
00:01:33.960 I'm prepared to go to jail for life and I'm willing to die. 0.98
00:01:37.540 You know, this is, this was a scary situation.
00:01:40.000 And Mr.
00:01:40.800 Nearly came on.
00:01:41.540 He was, he was threatening.
00:01:43.060 He's, I'm 6'2 and he was taller than me.
00:01:45.700 So it was, and there's a common misconception that Marines don't get scared.
00:01:49.620 We're actually taught one of our core values is courage.
00:01:53.320 And courage is not the absence of fear, but how you handle fear.
00:01:58.320 And, you know, I was scared for myself, but I looked around.
00:02:02.200 I saw women and children.
00:02:03.420 He was yelling in their faces saying, saying these threats.
00:02:07.440 I couldn't just sit still.
00:02:09.320 Some people say that I was holding on to Mr.
00:02:11.380 Nearly for 15 minutes.
00:02:13.000 This is not true.
00:02:14.520 I mean, between stops is only a couple of minutes.
00:02:16.400 So the whole interaction less, less than, less than five minutes.
00:02:20.300 Some people say I was trying to choke him to death, which is also not true.
00:02:23.960 I was trying to restrain him.
00:02:25.340 You could see in the video, there's a clear rise and fall of his chest, indicating that
00:02:29.160 he's breathing.
00:02:30.460 I'm trying to restrain him from him being able to carry out the threats. 0.97
00:02:35.020 And then some people say that this was about race, which is absolutely ridiculous. 0.98
00:02:39.620 I didn't see a black man threatening passengers. 0.97
00:02:42.020 I saw a man threatening passengers, a lot of whom were people of color.
00:02:46.140 A man who helped restrain Mr.
00:02:47.660 Nearly was a person of color.
00:02:49.480 A few days after the incident, I read in the papers that a woman of color came out and
00:02:54.260 called me a hero.
00:02:55.500 I don't believe that I'm a hero, but she was one of those people that I was trying to protect.
00:03:02.320 We were all scared.
00:03:03.420 Mr.
00:03:03.620 Nearly was yelling in these passengers' faces, and they looked terrified.
00:03:07.300 The reason why there was no video at the start of the altercation was because people were
00:03:11.180 too afraid of getting away from him.
00:03:13.160 And the videos didn't start until they saw that situation was under control.
00:03:18.180 I knew I had to act, and I acted in a way that would protect the other passengers, protect
00:03:23.400 myself, and protect Mr.
00:03:25.060 Nearly.
00:03:25.740 I used this hole to restrain him, and I did this by leaving my hand on top of his head
00:03:31.600 to control his body.
00:03:33.200 You could see in the video, there's a clear rise and fall of his chest, indicating that he
00:03:36.540 was still breathing.
00:03:37.980 And I'm calibrating my grip based on the force that he's exerting.
00:03:42.960 And I just, I mean, I was trying to keep him on the ground until the police came.
00:03:47.580 I was praying that the police would come and take this situation, take this situation over.
00:03:52.220 I didn't want to be put in that situation, but I couldn't just sit still and let him carry
00:03:57.060 out these threats.
00:03:57.900 Next, this is him celebrating at the bar with his lawyers after the case.
00:04:06.540 Look at him.
00:04:07.180 He looks great.
00:04:08.440 He's feeling good.
00:04:09.360 He's feeling good.
00:04:09.900 He's feeling good.
00:04:11.160 What's up?
00:04:12.020 What's up together?
00:04:13.100 How's it going?
00:04:13.700 How's it feel?
00:04:14.760 It feels great.
00:04:15.480 He's finally got the justice he's deserved.
00:04:17.820 Did you think it was going to happen?
00:04:19.400 Sorry?
00:04:20.020 We're surprised.
00:04:20.620 No, we think that this is, should have happened probably on day one, but the point thing is
00:04:25.720 it happened.
00:04:26.360 So we can't control the timing of it, but we can certainly savor the outcome.
00:04:30.580 And why do you think it was not guilty?
00:04:32.520 That's that guy.
00:04:34.220 Well, he's not guilty on a few different reasons.
00:04:36.260 Because his actions were justified.
00:04:37.760 He was trying to help people on that train, and he did.
00:04:40.240 And number two, he's not responsible for the death because the death was caused by a lot
00:04:44.540 of other factors that we tried to present with a lot of clarity, such as the K-2 abuse
00:04:49.480 and the sickle cell, the sickling crisis, and cardiac issues.
00:04:54.220 Not to mention the paranoid schizophrenia, which only added to that impact.
00:04:58.180 So I'm just glad that the jury was able to truly evaluate that as a potential cause of
00:05:02.420 death and that Danny was justified in the actions that he took.
00:05:05.100 On conservative Twitter, you think everybody's supporting this case, right?
00:05:09.080 You see all of the big commentators saying, thank God he's free.
00:05:14.100 And you almost think there's a tide turning, right?
00:05:18.440 Because the public perception isn't what it was five, ten years ago on a case like this.
00:05:25.180 And I think part of the reason is because smartphones are allowing us to see more points of view that
00:05:30.740 maybe we couldn't see five, ten years ago.
00:05:33.060 They're more common.
00:05:33.680 People are taking videos.
00:05:35.020 There's cameras everywhere.
00:05:36.380 However, I think this is going to increase the number of men that are not going to step
00:05:45.460 in in situations like that.
00:05:47.420 Now, you might think, well, he was found not guilty.
00:05:51.700 But the way that men are going to see it, or a lot of men are going to see it, is he's
00:05:57.660 had the last two years of his life ruined.
00:06:00.360 It's not like he can go out and live a normal life while being on trial.
00:06:06.020 So he's had to spend the last year, two years of his life putting everything on hold in order
00:06:12.360 to fight this case.
00:06:14.040 On top of that, he is going to now need to pay for security.
00:06:17.300 He will never be able to live a normal life again.
00:06:20.860 Now, there could be some pros that come out of this.
00:06:23.220 Maybe he runs for a public office.
00:06:24.960 Maybe he has a media career.
00:06:26.680 I don't know.
00:06:27.480 I think he's going to make the best of a bad situation.
00:06:30.240 But it's also come out that the Jordan Needy's father has come out and said he is going to
00:06:37.340 be taking him to civil court.
00:06:39.920 So now he's got to go through another court case.
00:06:43.040 You know, I think as you increase the cost of male protection, you know, I think at some
00:06:50.140 point men are going to say, what do I get out of this?
00:06:53.280 What do I get out of protecting women? 1.00
00:06:55.820 Women as a group haven't been the best to men over the last 50 years.
00:06:59.800 And it makes me beg the question, do we really deserve protection if we can go buy a gun just
00:07:06.880 like the men?
00:07:07.860 Why are we entitled to protection from men we don't know?
00:07:11.340 And I went on Tim Pool like six months ago and there was a woman, there was a story that
00:07:15.340 we covered and it was of a woman that was getting raped on a train in front of a whole group
00:07:21.500 of people and nobody stepped in.
00:07:23.380 And I covered another case, I think three to four months ago of a woman that got robbed
00:07:27.500 at gunpoint and nobody stepped in.
00:07:29.460 And we wonder, you know, men have a biological instinct to protect women the same way women
00:07:34.840 have a biological instinct to protect children.
00:07:37.320 And society has treated them so poorly in cases like this.
00:07:41.800 They are now overriding their biological instinct in order to think about the consequences of
00:07:47.840 potentially helping somebody.
00:07:49.840 You know, as we keep increasing the price of male protection, I don't think it's wrong
00:07:54.860 for men to not step in.
00:07:56.740 And I completely understand why they don't.
00:07:59.380 And you get even cases that I've covered where a woman looks like she's being abused
00:08:04.060 by a man and it turns out that man's her boyfriend and the guy gets beat up and she
00:08:09.140 ends up going back to the boyfriend.
00:08:10.420 So, you know, if women are choosing not to get guns, if women are choosing to vote Democrat 0.85
00:08:17.300 policies that are weak on crime and make all these catastrophic decisions like going out
00:08:24.160 late at night, traveling alone, not getting married young.
00:08:28.300 If these are the choices we make, why are we entitled to protection?
00:08:32.680 Now, I want to show you guys the BLM response. 0.92
00:08:35.900 And I just thought this was completely ridiculous.
00:08:37.840 So this is the response of Black Lives Matter to Daniel Penny being found not guilty. 0.98
00:08:43.840 We need some black vigilantes. 1.00
00:08:46.980 That's right. 1.00
00:08:48.000 People want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud.
00:08:54.720 How about we do the same when they attempt to oppress us?
00:08:59.220 Right.
00:09:00.040 I'm tired.
00:09:01.000 Tired.
00:09:01.900 We need some black vigil... 0.97
00:09:03.840 Oh, my gosh. 0.89
00:09:07.720 NAACP tweeted,
00:09:08.640 The acquittal of Daniel Penny and the death of Jordan Neely has effectively given license
00:09:13.500 for vigilante justice to be waged on the black community without consequence.
00:09:17.760 It's a painful reminder of the inequalities in our justice system.
00:09:21.380 Jordan deserved compassion.
00:09:23.340 Instead, he was met with violence.
00:09:25.340 We stand with his family in calling for accountability.
00:09:29.520 And this is what he's going to have to deal with the rest of his life.
00:09:32.260 And it reminds me of a story.
00:09:33.900 So I was talking to someone about the January 6th protests.
00:09:38.240 And I have a tendency to view people that tell the truth regardless of the consequences
00:09:43.880 as very brave, even if I agree or I disagree with them.
00:09:47.360 You know, I had two guys on here once that just did not like each other.
00:09:51.220 If you guys want to watch, I can't put their interviews on YouTube because they censor them.
00:09:56.320 But a while ago, I had on Muhammad Hijab and Tommy Robinson. 0.92
00:10:00.440 And they, if you know anything about their history, they do not like each other.
00:10:05.640 But I still felt like both of them were brave in some way for like standing up for what they believe.
00:10:11.120 Now, Tommy Robinson has actually been arrested in the UK.
00:10:13.960 And he spent years of his life in jail for that.
00:10:17.700 And it's similar to the January 6th protests.
00:10:21.220 But, you know, I don't like to say who I talk to.
00:10:24.420 I don't want people, you know.
00:10:25.800 But I spoke to someone recently. 0.99
00:10:27.720 And I asked if they viewed the men that do that as brave or stupid. 0.99
00:10:32.400 And it actually amazed me, the female versus male perception of it. 1.00
00:10:36.940 Because all the men I talked to said I view them as stupid. 1.00
00:10:41.140 Because what did we get out of, say, January 6th? 1.00
00:10:45.160 What did you get out of being put in jail for this?
00:10:48.480 What did you get out of protecting women that hate you? 1.00
00:10:51.980 And at some point, men are going to view or a significant amount of men are going to view protecting women as stupid. 1.00
00:11:01.340 Because what do they get out of it? 0.99
00:11:04.080 And I can't really blame them for that point of view.
00:11:06.940 Because you can't, you know, many people have tried to out-alpha the state.
00:11:11.280 But nobody can.
00:11:12.340 You know, honestly, just going to court is punishment enough.
00:11:15.720 Even if you end up beating the case, it, you know, that's a time you can never get back.
00:11:20.520 And if you look at the response and how aggressive these protesters are, I think he's going to have people protesting outside his house.
00:11:28.380 He's going to need to hire security for the rest of his life.
00:11:31.160 And, you know, right now he can afford a GoFundMe or whatever.
00:11:34.960 But that's, you know, that's a target that's going to be on his back forever.
00:11:38.820 You know, hopefully it dies down.
00:11:40.340 But you don't know how long this will last.
00:11:42.020 Breaking news.
00:11:42.900 The jury has reached a unanimous verdict in the case of Daniel Penny.
00:11:48.480 He's been found not guilty on the charge of criminally negligent homicide.
00:11:53.700 Now, remember what was at stake here.
00:11:56.400 The jury could not agree on manslaughter.
00:11:59.160 They failed to agree twice.
00:12:01.220 The judge gave them another bite at the apple on this lesser charge.
00:12:05.400 Negligent.
00:12:06.140 They now say not guilty.
00:12:08.240 What does this mean?
00:12:09.320 Let's first go to reporter CB Cotton, who's outside the courthouse, to find out how this has played out.
00:12:15.060 Now, I hear an immediate melee of protesters, CB.
00:12:18.480 Hi, Harris.
00:12:19.180 That's right.
00:12:19.720 Protesters are pretty upset.
00:12:21.120 There's a large crowd of them out here next to me.
00:12:23.980 You can hear them rattling the police barricades, saying no justice, no peace.
00:12:28.220 And what they're yelling now follows a series of threats that they hurled earlier as the defense walked in with their client, Daniel Penny, telling the defense team that Daniel Penny can have no peace here in New York if he's found not guilty on this lesser charge, criminally negligent homicide.
00:12:46.120 And so now you have BLM saying he gets no peace in New York.
00:12:50.440 Now he's lost.
00:12:51.660 I don't know if it's home state, but where he was happily living before.
00:12:56.480 Was it worth it?
00:12:57.680 That's a question every man's got to decide for himself.
00:13:01.640 But you're going to get more and more men saying that this is just the juice on this is just not worth the squeeze.
00:13:09.320 Right now, they're repeating those threats.
00:13:11.300 They are very angry.
00:13:12.840 Harris, I also want to mention there were a couple people here this morning to support Daniel Penny, but the anti-Penny crowd far outweighs them, and they seem pretty upset.
00:13:22.440 We're seeing police officers come out here in droves to try to keep the two groups separated for now.
00:13:27.740 But I'm looking at our notes from the courtroom, and it seems like this is the first time we've seen some real emotion from Daniel Penny.
00:13:37.060 His attorneys told me this morning that this trial has understandably taken a toll on him.
00:13:43.220 He's been spending time with family and friends to try to stay calm.
00:13:47.420 And our courtroom reporter telling me for the first time she sees him visibly smile, now hearing that jurors have decided he is not guilty of criminally negligent homicide.
00:13:59.680 Unfortunately, a lot of women have been voting Democrat for too long, and this is the result. 1.00
00:14:06.180 So we can't be mad if we're not protected in public anymore, if men aren't stepping in, if this is how we treat the men that do.
00:14:14.900 So that's really my only point for today. 0.96
00:14:16.960 And, you know, that's where you kind of, for me, it begs the question, is stepping in to defend women, is it stupid at this point? 0.96
00:14:25.740 Because the result could be going to jail. 0.98
00:14:29.400 Is that worth your entire life being ruined, potentially sitting the rest of your life in jail?
00:14:34.700 I don't, I don't know.
00:14:36.100 You guys let me know in the comments.
00:14:37.640 Also, let me know if there's anything you want me to react to this week.
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00:14:43.200 Thank you guys for watching, and I'll talk to you tomorrow.
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