Pearl - Millennials And Gen Z Are the Generation of Ghosting

00:00:00.000 what is up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily here on the audacity network thank

00:00:08.060 you guys for tuning in i love having you here i really do um i decided i'm going to start the

00:00:15.660 show today by going through my twitter maybe talking about random things in my life before

00:00:19.640 we get um to the topic so um I was thinking about how the future of this show

00:00:29.760 I can't decide so I know if I stick to the news cycle stuff gets me more views right but I've

00:00:40.120 sort of had a shift where I really enjoy making topics out of things I see in the real world

00:00:45.240 like going out into the wild talking to people and i really enjoy those kind of shows um yes i

00:00:52.840 have a podcast on spotify doug mpa if you could put the link in the chat i think it's in the

00:00:57.080 description but if it's not you know i'm trying to see how long i can go without buying groceries

00:01:04.440 um this is orange juice with coconut water i don't know i have a drink making station now

00:01:17.820 very exciting it's your first time live well welcome to the show thank you for being here

00:01:25.100 um i have these we belong or she belongs to the street sweatshirt so you can send to an ex

00:01:30.800 um i discontinued them uh because i don't know i just i had to switch vendors it was a whole thing

00:01:40.160 but i i could hypothetically reintroduce them if you guys want so you know let me know in the chat

00:01:45.980 if you like the she belongs to the street sweatshirts you could send it to your ex

00:01:49.860 girlfriend be like it didn't work out okay let's see let's go through twitter today

00:01:56.580 all right apparently this guy got divorced um luca don kick's wife broke down in tears after

00:02:04.940 discovering he'd used the same asset strategy by a craft hakami putting everything in his mother's

00:02:10.840 name so apparently his wife allegedly was waiting for the right moment to file for divorce after

00:02:17.020 luca had earned enough money and built up major assets but luca who truly loved her started

00:02:21.920 thinking that many men who loved their wives deeply still ended up losing everything after

00:02:26.300 divorce from millions from having millions to having nothing. So he made a quiet move. I guess

00:02:31.720 he put his money in his mother's name. So smart guy. All right. Can we confirm if this is a real

00:02:43.460 story? But Travis Hunter apparently broke down in tears admitting his coach stole half a million

00:02:51.320 dollars from him and caught his wife liana sleeping with him i don't know what to do because i have to

00:02:55.880 pay them 150k monthly or i'll go to court i wish i listened in college let's see would they be open

00:03:02.520 to moving down there so it's not like random but we didn't tell them we were getting out we just

00:03:06.040 like one day would you like yeah one day would you be interested in moving to savannah like

00:03:10.200 closer to my family yeah and they were like down so yeah we're doing big moves now my second big

00:03:16.840 purchase and we will update y'all we'll be in the morning we wake up actually in savannah no

00:03:25.560 no morning we take them move like would they be open i don't know what this is but all right

00:03:32.440 oh apparently there was a um this super simp made a video uh documentary on the manosphere

00:03:42.280 i think they asked me to be in it but i'm like you fuck you guys um but apparently myron was in

00:03:51.000 it let me see if there's a there's like that clip of myron's girlfriend going viral

00:03:58.600 i've been spending less time on twitter lately um girlfriend let me see the recent one oh yeah here

00:04:05.400 And here it goes.

00:04:10.400 Myron's been quite open about the fact that he expects to be in a relationship in which there's one way monogamy, as he calls it.

00:04:17.400 He's allowed to basically pursue other relationships, but you're not.

00:04:22.400 The women that he's with, he's just going to be with them for like a night or so or whatever.

00:04:27.400 But I don't I don't think he sees me that way because.

00:04:31.400 She's so pretty, actually.

00:04:32.400 there is a reason why i've stayed so long with him i i don't want to mix things up between you

00:04:37.780 right but yeah but but we were talking about in the future that maybe there's a world where you

00:04:42.040 would have more than one wife she understands that she knows that that could potentially come

00:04:46.240 down the future what do you say about that uh i don't know i mean i he has said that in the past

00:04:53.960 uh i think when i'll see when it happens like i don't know how that will work the thing is that

00:05:00.060 but right now it's not going to be anytime soon because just because i'm just so focused on

00:05:04.060 working but it could happen right it could of course you can kick it down the road only for

00:05:07.660 so long you know she's put two years into a relationship if that's your long-term plan

00:05:12.380 at some point those two realities will collide you know that's a bridge we'll cross when we

00:05:16.140 get there like right now here's the thing they're kind of dogging on him because his relationship

00:05:21.900 with her ended right but it's better for a guy to get two years of respect than 30 years of disrespect

00:05:30.060 do you know what I mean it's like

00:05:33.660 a lot of men like they like to tout oh I've been married 10 years 20 years 30 years well

00:05:41.720 who runs the relationship more often than not it's the wife you know so he's in a better spot

00:05:47.580 getting respect for two years even if it didn't work out then yeah so they keep going I mean

00:05:54.980 that's so avoidant it's it's something you never know man you can you can you can always change

00:05:59.760 mind down the road who knows maybe i'll say uh you know i only just want to be with one girl

00:06:02.960 because the two would be too tough you know but here's the thing you also don't know what's going

00:06:07.360 to happen in the future i mean how many people say they're going to be together for life and they

00:06:12.640 um they break up like we're in the generation of right now none of us can plan for the future we

00:06:20.000 all like all of this therapy talk and that's kind of what we're going to get to with ghosting

00:06:24.400 is telling us to live in the present and appreciate the moments we have now because the future with

00:06:31.040 everybody is not promised already some people in this part of the culture right who are advocates

00:06:37.760 for the idea of like the one percent male that ultimate masculine that he's um sorry also i need

00:06:45.120 a you could clean up the room too i need some help yeah with that was that okay by the way i

00:06:51.520 i always feel weird like no no no you know it's awkward though no no no i what did you feel a

00:06:55.760 little no not at all no angie like she's with me on this on board with what specifically you know

00:07:05.760 what i just the the um the idea about the ladies no we've we've had these discussions i saw a little

00:07:10.880 bit of pain in her no no definitely no no yes no definitely no no no yeah you don't think if i said

00:07:17.680 to her like you would have myron all to yourself would you rather have that you don't think she

00:07:22.400 would say yeah 100 she would say whatever makes me happy that's what she would say you know the

00:07:27.200 time i do have i spend with her if i'm with any woman a few moments later it's been several months

00:07:39.120 guys that we haven't been together she was a good girlfriend bro we haven't been together for a

00:07:42.880 minute and she wants a family and i can't give that to her right now yeah so again they're gonna

00:07:49.120 dog him but yeah sims can't take the fact that women choose to be where they where they want to

00:07:54.960 be yeah and look um i don't know if a open relationship long term will work i don't know

00:08:04.480 but the thing is nobody's relationships are working out everybody's cooked do you know what i mean

00:08:12.880 so

00:08:15.900 okay let's see who's next

00:08:23.580 who's next on twitter so i don't really like how their dog and him it's like let's see your wife

00:08:29.800 let's see your relationship dynamic whenever these women

00:08:34.760 whenever these like men women dog on myron and like the way the red pill guys do it we always

00:08:39.500 find out their wives are worse their wives are worse okay um just finished the manosphere

00:08:46.700 documentary he definitely made them look silly at times which isn't hard to do but ultimately

00:08:50.600 these guys don't care how they come across the clicks and attention is all they care about

00:08:54.080 what the doc actually never interrogates is whether their influence is as large as people

00:09:00.580 assume my intuition is their content is just slop for low iq teenagers and not anyone that's really

00:09:05.480 influential. Myron says you're a PhD, but you're a retard. Incredible.

00:09:13.940 There's a strange asymmetry where relatively niche manosphere slop content is treated like

00:09:18.840 a major cultural threat, while popular female-oriented content like Call Her Daddy,

00:09:23.980 whose popularity builds on misandry and slowing conflict between the sexes rarely receives any

00:09:30.640 scrutiny meanwhile the male oriented podcasts that actually dominate the charts are about healthy

00:09:36.020 physical and intellectual self-improvement and that tells you more about most young men are

00:09:40.420 aspirational Scott like Joe Rogan diary of CEO yeah I mean I think that the manosphere is a good

00:09:47.960 thing. So, okay, wait, hold on. Okay, let's keep going. Oh, I made bread the other day,

00:10:07.980 if anyone cares. It was a little bit, and I don't know what it means, but the bread,

00:10:14.280 i wish it expanded more someone was telling me i over like um kneaded it but i think my bread's

00:10:22.680 getting better it's not great but i did use this loaf so you know a bunch of sandwiches with it

00:10:30.820 so that was kind of exciting today i had um buffalo chicken with rice i'm trying to

00:10:39.020 replace my carbs, um, with rice and potatoes rather than pasta or bread, except the bread

00:10:47.100 I made there. Okay. I love sandwiches for lunch, but, um, I really just contradicted

00:10:54.520 what I said there. Okay. But more, more. Okay. I got rid of the pasta. So just, just, you

00:11:02.600 though um oh I learned to make donuts I think I talked about this a few days ago I give them

00:11:12.520 away though when I make desserts I'll eat like one or half of one and then I give it away

00:11:16.640 so I've heard I dropped these off at I think I dropped them off at the fire station near me

00:11:22.000 sometimes I do the post office I don't know I just I like to bake you know the other day I ran

00:11:28.660 into a fan. And I was, I was walking to the fire station to drop off these, like, I think it was

00:11:34.620 cake or something. And then he's like, oh, can I get a picture? And I'm like, yeah, you want a piece

00:11:38.580 of cake? Bread, keep the dough two days in the fridge before baking it. Butternut squash. I'll

00:11:51.600 keep going. All right. So, uh, today we're talking about ghosting today. We're talking

00:12:03.940 about ghosting. Um, now the definition, I'm actually going to pull up the definition of

00:12:10.480 ghosting definition because I want to be, I want to be accurate. Definition slang.

00:12:18.860 ghosting is the slang term for abruptly cutting off all communication with someone ignoring calls

00:12:26.360 texts and social media without explanation popularized by the dating apps in the 2000s

00:12:32.480 it means vanishing like a ghost to avoid confrontation it's considered a passive

00:12:37.640 aggressive emotionally hurtful practice most commonly used in romantic dating scenarios but

00:12:44.540 it also applies to friendships increasingly in professional or workplace settings. The person

00:12:50.900 ghosting will ignore messages, stop replying, and many block the other person on social media.

00:12:56.180 The term gained popularity with the rise of online dating and social media. I haven't seen

00:13:01.660 them in weeks. I've been ghosted. She totally ghosted me after our second date. I told them

00:13:06.620 wasn't interested they just ghosted well okay balla let's go show love people thank you thank

00:13:14.860 you so much so okay the epidemic of ghosting i realized this is an epidemic that transcends

00:13:23.500 dating and really is just the way of the world millennial and gen z is the generation of ghosting

00:13:30.300 now the first time i was ghosted um i'm not gonna i'm not gonna tell you guys my l's in dating so

00:13:37.800 you guys aren't getting that from me that maybe a different day but that that is not today that

00:13:43.180 days i'll tell you my my other ways i've been ghosted right i know i don't need i don't need

00:13:48.960 to give my my haters ammo i don't need to give it to them okay but the first time i heard of

00:13:57.940 someone getting ghosted was in college. I actually had a friend in school who had a boyfriend that

00:14:03.200 she was distanced with of four years that just ghosted her. Yep. And we would make jokes

00:14:11.220 throughout college. Are we still together? You know. Then the other day I've been watching

00:14:23.700 true crime i like um murder with my husband podcast i don't know if anyone's seen that but i

00:14:28.560 love that podcast and um yeah give us the l's 500 super chat and i'll give you an l i'll give you an

00:14:36.700 l i don't even give my family and friends my l's you think you guys get now 500 i'll do it um

00:14:42.660 so anyways

00:14:47.420 so anyways what's the worst ghosting i've ever done okay we don't need to i don't need to tell

00:14:56.220 you guys when i was a bad person i'm not always a good person okay

00:14:59.120 all right all right all right so when i'm watching this true crime podcast

00:15:07.380 there was a girl who like died and she died because nobody reported her missing in the

00:15:14.840 first 24 hours and I was thinking who would notice I was missing first and so I kind of was going

00:15:20.180 through people I knew and I talked to often and I said hey if I didn't talk to you within like this

00:15:25.900 many hours would you be worried and I said to Doug MPA and he said no I would just think something

00:15:32.340 came up and I was like damn okay so he would if it was up to Doug MPA I'd be dead I guess I'd be

00:15:38.300 dead so then i go to my dad and i said dad if within 24 hours i didn't call you back like how

00:15:45.300 many days until you call everyone else and he was like a few days and i'm like all right so i would

00:15:52.460 be dead i would be dead yeah so then i went to my guitar teacher okay and i went to my guitar

00:16:01.180 teacher and i'm like guitar teacher i see you almost every day you know if i went missing

00:16:07.000 if i went missing would you would you notice and he said

00:16:12.400 i would just assume you ghosted me and i'm like you would think i would ghost you we've been

00:16:19.740 doing lessons together for almost two years

00:16:22.160 and he said yeah it happens all the time with students so then i went to um i go to the gym

00:16:30.500 and i'll tell you guys i think i got the best deal on a trainer ever i'll tell you guys a

00:16:36.280 different day but this gym do you guys want to hear about my deal or do you not care

00:16:44.280 do you want to hear that okay so anyways whatever

00:16:48.680 i'm going through and i'm like okay i so i guess i would be dead i would be dead i guess yeah it's

00:16:53.480 up to you guys to notice it's up to you guys yeah they don't care oh we can't you care you

00:17:03.960 want to hear about the deal no okay no no no so anyways anyways i need no you don't you guys do

00:17:13.960 not care so tell all right remind me at the end i'll tell you about the deal i'll tell you about

00:17:20.200 this really good gym deal i got because i've switched gyms because they're taking away my

00:17:24.520 basketball court brutal so anyways um regardless regardless so i'd be dead apparently but i the

00:17:47.640 more i'm talking to people the more i'm seeing this is becoming an epidemic everywhere uh people

00:17:52.680 in the service industry get ghosted they'll have customers of 10 years just go ghost

00:18:00.040 um coaches are getting ghosted and today i'm at the gym and i made i made friends with a woman

00:18:08.600 and she said her employer ghosted her they just stopped asking her to come into work

00:18:13.400 um yeah and it just seems like ghosting is the way forward it's the future

00:18:24.620 if i'm messaging a girl i've never met and she stops communicating then i let it be but if we

00:18:32.940 go on a date and she stops communicating thankful it's only happened to me once but i'm hurt but it

00:18:37.560 hurt like for women i can just speak to like my experience

00:18:42.440 it really only hurts if you cracked um i mean doug mp we were kind of going back and forth about

00:18:53.100 this he said i think when you're an old woman if he doesn't want to crack that's hurtful because

00:18:58.180 it's like it's kind of like because you know you're like a used car and as a used car you

00:19:02.440 have a discounted price and when you offer the car for free and they're like I'm a good I'm good

00:19:07.980 you're like what the I gave you a free car you don't want my free car you don't like what's

00:19:13.420 wrong with my car what's it you know when you're a young woman you know they want to crack so it's

00:19:18.540 just like eh he stopped asking her to come to work it sounds like he got tired of asking are

00:19:28.640 you coming or not I don't think that's what it was but I don't know

00:19:32.440 it just seems like um ghosting is the way forward

00:19:40.160 and women invented this women have been ghosting men for 50 years i think or maybe 10 years 20

00:19:51.380 years i don't know women have been in the business of ghosting

00:20:02.440 so i'm gonna have doug mpa come in on this segment because he has strong feelings about

00:20:08.460 ghosting we'll just kind of go back and forth for a little bit now personally um when is it

00:20:14.480 diabolical to ghost somebody is one question i have um my answer i think one date not diabolical

00:20:24.580 first month, eh, who cares

00:20:27.120 first three months

00:20:30.360 it really inconsiderate

00:20:32.880 not diabolical

00:20:34.080 but I'm hearing people are getting ghosted

00:20:37.380 from three year

00:20:39.280 two year relationships, you know

00:20:41.300 ghosting proves the inability to be

00:20:45.180 direct and honest

00:20:46.420 that's true

00:20:48.540 that's true

00:20:49.700 but anyways, let's

00:20:54.580 I'm going to bring up Doug MPA.

00:21:04.100 Oh no, Chad's ghost all the time.

00:21:08.580 Chad's love ghosting.

00:21:12.400 You should always text my dad.

00:21:14.440 Well, that was the hurtful part.

00:21:15.820 I'm like, dad, we talk all the time.

00:21:19.080 I'm like, dad, we talk all the time.

00:21:24.580 hey how's it going i'm just kidding i love this topic first off guys my microphone was messed up

00:21:37.060 because you do this google did this update and you have to turn off this thing where it wants

00:21:42.200 to auto adjust your microphone so if you are in google chrome you have to change a setting that

00:21:48.000 is automatically checked to adjust your microphone for best quality or something like that so look

00:21:53.340 that up because it was messing up my microphone last a couple of days anyway i love this topic

00:21:57.980 because guys um men people keep trying to hold men to like this morally higher standard

00:22:07.800 and i always say we tried that we tried to be the bigger people we tried to have duty and

00:22:16.320 integrity and honesty stuff like that towards women and they call that misogyny and patriarchy

00:22:22.780 guys now you should be you should be honest and have integrity but you should be that to people

00:22:30.200 who deserve it and a lot of women don't they just don't and also women guys we got ghosted all the

00:22:38.180 time when we were younger right if if you got ghosted or a woman didn't want to talk to you

00:22:44.240 anymore you did anything but move on you were seen as a creep or a you know or like an asshole or

00:22:50.480 something. You just have to move on. But women can't take L's guys. They can't do it. You owe

00:22:56.680 them an explanation. You owe them closure. Guys, women feel entitled to your money, your time,

00:23:02.860 your resources, and closure, guys. Don't give them any of it. Any of it. Go seize women.

00:23:12.560 And think about this. But Doug, what about the people that say, what about the people that say

00:23:17.960 you just don't know how to communicate.

00:23:23.260 You're just, you're just not being a real man, right?

00:23:25.780 A real man would tell her.

00:23:28.100 Those are the kind of people you ghost and stop talking to.

00:23:35.160 That was a funny response.

00:23:37.200 Yeah.

00:23:39.300 And here's the thing.

00:23:40.240 So I have friends at my day job and they're like, oh yeah, you know,

00:23:44.840 i can't get ahead because of nepotism and cronyism and stuff i say look nepotism and cronyism is good

00:23:51.160 you want to know why because all of us want to get into the position where we could hire well

00:23:57.400 maybe not your family because a lot of times your family will screw you over in business but you

00:24:01.960 want to be able to hire all your friends wouldn't it be great for you to get some executive positions

00:24:07.320 somewhere and hire all your friends so nepotism the cronyism is really only bad

00:24:12.920 depending on what side of the desk you're sitting on.

00:24:17.020 If you're sitting on the hiring side,

00:24:18.640 well then cronyism's great.

00:24:20.520 And that's the same thing with ghosting.

00:24:22.980 Ghosting's only bad if you're getting ghosted,

00:24:25.040 but guys, ghost, it's great, it feels great.

00:24:28.040 Especially if you're in the position

00:24:29.600 to be able to ghost women.

00:24:31.440 You have to be in a position to be able to ghost women

00:24:34.340 in the first place.

00:24:36.300 And also, Pearl said earlier that you have to crack,

00:24:40.040 but you have to smash for women to get upset

00:24:42.680 about getting ghosted that's not true it's not as women get older especially if they're these

00:24:48.660 career boss babes if they take away from their the stupid single lives to try and date and you

00:24:56.580 ghost them they get all sorts of upset i guarantee you most of the guys in that are we dating the

00:25:01.780 same guy group only about half of them really smashed the rest went on a couple of dates and

00:25:08.520 decide this girl is too crazy to even put my dick in and stop talking to her and you'll still get

00:25:13.680 put in those groups women will still get upset with whether you crack or not tell me about um

00:25:19.500 when a woman's too crazy to even crack or like when it's not even worth it uh so first off

00:25:28.320 rabbit dog aj and i were brothers in real life and that's why we sound the same but we are not

00:25:34.100 the same person um so honestly okay you your two biggest superpowers as a man is being able to

00:25:41.120 determine who your girlfriend fiance and wife is if you choose to be in a relationship or to be

00:25:47.480 able to walk away any girl that tries to take either of those two things away from you is too

00:25:53.520 crazy to crack does that make sense i think so explain it in a different way though so

00:26:01.900 so if a woman tries to keep you from being able to walk away so she tries to emotionally extort

00:26:09.260 you like you know um if you leave me i'm gonna hurt myself or you know oh my god what the fuck

00:26:17.580 keep going or just stuff like that women that try to take away your ability to be able to walk away

00:26:22.740 like you know a woman that would try to shame you into staying with her or insult you into staying

00:26:27.000 with her or or contact your family and stuff and then any woman that says where are uh where is this

00:26:35.040 going too fast like what are we are you know are we too you know uh where's this headed where's

00:26:42.600 this going they're trying to take away what is diabolical to go there's no such thing

00:26:49.620 because two years 10 years 10 years not diabolical any way that a guy has ghosted a woman has ghosted

00:26:57.940 even worse okay but not everybody's doing the ghosting most women oh a five or above

00:27:08.120 have ghosted multiple men in their lives okay okay so you don't think okay you don't think

00:27:14.420 it's diabolical 10 years to ghost the girl nope oh my god come on no no no that's crazy especially

00:27:25.640 some imagine a guy is going through 10 years of emotional and verbal just just beating from his

00:27:34.440 wife from his wife or ex-wife or girlfriend he's just decides to just walk away yeah i don't know

00:27:42.560 i think after a certain time it's a little bit diabolical like i don't know now are you saying

00:27:50.240 on both sides or just for women no both sides like um over six months i'd say kind of diabolical

00:28:02.320 are you serious yeah come on guys put in the chat if you've been ghosted the average okay

00:28:13.780 when you were younger how long did it take for a girl to ghost you on average when you were young

00:28:22.520 guys if you were to say that you never got ghosted as a young man you're lying

00:28:26.140 because me you know i had a girl ghost me after three and a half months

00:28:31.000 four months long distance i was dumb enough to try a long distance relationship one time

00:28:37.400 i got goes to after seven months eight months

00:28:40.020 that's kind of diabolical no it's not it's life yeah well that's distance though distance like

00:28:48.880 i feel like like distance isn't it's not really the same like but seven months in person diabolical

00:28:58.780 yeah i just you know women want things to be fair women want men to have honesty and

00:29:08.040 integrity but only for stuff that puts them in an advantageous position and here's the thing

00:29:15.360 women the the solution to ghosting and the standards that we would have to implement

00:29:21.240 only men would do it women won't you think that women would ever not ghost who if who would be

00:29:27.980 more like okay if they were to pass a law to not ghost well who would be the the bigger group of

00:29:35.900 offenders men or women oh women women are immoral all the time yeah but so you have to get over

00:29:44.240 holding well i'm not saying you but i'm saying throw you holding men to this higher moral if a

00:29:49.460 man chooses to hold himself to a higher moral standard well then that's fine but like you don't

00:29:54.080 have to you guys that time is over yeah i guess it would just like for me personally i think over

00:30:02.560 six months is not like personally i i would at least send a text first month but for maybe after

00:30:11.200 a month two months but like i don't know six months a year five i that's just a little long

00:30:19.360 for me and then what if you're one of the okay men we're smart enough where

00:30:25.840 there are women where you know they can't even handle regular life and their emotions and regular

00:30:32.520 situations you how they're going to handle you saying that you don't want to be with them anymore

00:30:36.560 avoid a lot of times avoiding that conversation and here's the thing women know how to shame

00:30:44.000 insult and guilt you into backing down if you have a conversation with a woman

00:30:49.020 they can use shame insults and guilt to stop you from leaving actions are more important than words

00:30:56.020 so a lot of times a guy will say oh yeah i'm leaving and but he doesn't really want to leave

00:31:01.400 the best way to show a woman that you don't want to deal with her anymore or you want to leave

00:31:05.260 just leave it says if you're going to end the relationship at least have the guts to tell them

00:31:11.300 the guts look at that shame insults and guilt right there the guts where are women having the

00:31:18.120 guts to not ghost men oh well women don't yeah but i just for me personally i think over six

00:31:27.300 months is diabolical that's that's gonna be my line but guys call in call in join the convo

00:31:33.540 agree disagree there's no right or wrong answer here right you know i mean that's just that's

00:31:39.940 for me personally you know go ahead you have to earn your you have to earn the status and the

00:31:45.720 ability to be desirable enough to be able to ghost women women so he this guy agrees with you women

00:31:53.480 can't handle rejection pearl wants us to reject so we wake up with slash tired i'm good ghosting

00:31:58.480 is a tool women used it and men certainly are going to use it too 100 true 100 i can understand

00:32:04.780 that you know but i still think six months is diabolical but that's me like that's me like

00:32:12.120 personally you know yeah i guess it could be contextual i could be swayed in the right

00:32:18.640 situation if she's just like batshit crazy right i could be swayed but you know um

00:32:25.200 have some respect and protect your dignity ghost her i agree 100 you see it every day with the most

00:32:33.340 guys call in um just because women are bad doesn't mean men should be michael call in give your give

00:32:39.260 it we could we could fight it out i for me six months is diabolical but i don't feel that

00:32:45.640 strongly about it do you know what i mean like i'm not i wouldn't really lose sleep i'd just be

00:32:50.700 like oh wow that's you know that's you could you could maybe sway me to get up to a year over a

00:32:58.220 year diabolical um yeah yeah i'm all about ghosting i'll say it again guys ghost all day long

00:33:06.940 ghost because women that's the only way women will learn it's funny because women ghost men

00:33:16.000 when they're young but then they feel like men when you get the tools to be able to live out

00:33:21.520 the male dating strategy women want to shame you out of using all the tools and options that you've

00:33:27.240 earned um the link is in the chat guys so it's in the youtube chat you just click it at the top

00:33:33.360 i broke up with a woman and lost thousands in court because she was upset i'm good with ghosting

00:33:39.340 see and you know to me that's not an unreasonable standard you know i just

00:33:43.700 i'll stick to it for me personally six months diabolical um you don't enable yeah don't enable

00:33:52.660 abusers just by sticking around to get verbally abused again i can be swayed in certain situations

00:33:59.880 I can be swayed

00:34:02.320 um

00:34:02.800 SMS text would be a better alternative

00:34:05.900 you were good but I found a better one

00:34:07.800 that's funny

00:34:11.960 cause here's the thing

00:34:13.320 I wonder what is the likelihood

00:34:15.780 I think that women

00:34:17.660 remember the guys

00:34:20.400 that ghost them more

00:34:21.900 than the guys that give them an explanation

00:34:24.020 cause a woman will always

00:34:27.860 wonder and you'll always be on her mind

00:34:29.680 in some capacity if she liked you and you ghosted and never told you why never told her why you

00:34:37.800 ghosted i don't think most i think

00:34:42.900 i don't think most guys give explanations i don't think that's normal i'm glad

00:34:50.260 um at the rise of false allegations if you're gonna meet break up meet in a public case

00:34:59.160 place lots of cameras and even then you might lose in court

00:35:02.280 i was a 10 a male model 35 of age pearl is right i had to ask married well call in male model let's

00:35:14.540 see let's see the face card you don't get to say you were 10 in the chat prove it like

00:35:20.580 yeah right um because here's the thing some of the best advice i've ever heard was here's the

00:35:30.480 thing guys you're either a liar or you're not right and a lot of guys aren't liars so you know

00:35:37.260 a lot of men have integrity and honesty and they don't like lying but how you can get around that

00:35:42.780 is just don't say anything guys if you're with a woman and she asked you where you were say

00:35:48.020 say i got nothing you should text sean if he's up i think he he dumped me on stream i don't know if

00:35:53.860 you remember yeah yeah i'll reach out to him but guys here's the thing just don't give if if you

00:36:04.100 ever get caught like half caught and a woman who wants you to explain yourself just don't give her

00:36:08.980 anything say i got nothing for you guys this that's what ghosting is it's like you're not just

00:36:16.180 don't give her any kind of story that she could pick apart and try to just don't give her anything

00:36:21.380 guys all right wild heart uh what is your thought on the topic ghosting at what point um is it okay

00:36:29.780 have you have a story with it and at what point is a diabolical go ahead

00:36:35.380 to be honest i've just started watching so i can't comment i'm gonna have to keep up on the

00:36:42.180 on the conversation i've literally just had to watch okay then why are you calling in

00:36:50.740 yeah guys if you're coming if you're calling in it's all right um

00:36:54.260 you know i should have said this before we took the caller so this is my bad

00:36:59.060 call in i love it when you guys tell me a personal stories with ghosting so if you

00:37:03.700 personally have ghosted or been ghosted and you felt like it was diabolical either or let me know

00:37:10.500 um if you have like a point when it was diabolical um you know

00:37:21.380 ghosting is weak well come up here say it with your chest

00:37:28.020 and i want to talk but i'm really busy at the moment let's talk later never gonna talk to her

00:37:32.980 again there you go have you ever um have you ever ghosted a woman because you were talking

00:37:46.900 to another woman that you liked more and then realized you chose wrong has that ever happened

00:37:52.500 oh yeah of course really what happens tell me um i've when i was young i waited tables

00:38:01.300 and this table my first full-time job i waited tables at a restaurant that was off of a major

00:38:09.780 highway and you know i worked 10 p.m to 6 a.m in the morning so i would work when the the bars got

00:38:16.620 out and um this this table of three girls two of them left their phone number on napkins

00:38:26.600 and i i think they literally wanted to see who like i would call call first you know i was

00:38:32.840 talking to all three of them and i chose the wrong napkin and i called the friend that wasn't

00:38:41.280 attractive so we know we hung out a little bit but if i would have chosen the the napkin with

00:38:46.140 the blue ink instead of the red ink it would have been the other friend should have just kept going

00:38:51.520 i'm so sorry i got really sick and then

00:38:55.840 okay i'm gonna read the super chat we're gonna um tony castro don't get caught lol

00:39:02.600 lj welcome to the show um have you ghosted what's your opinion on the topic

00:39:10.040 and at what point is it diabolical go ahead uh yes and it's always diabolical it's kind of

00:39:19.140 fucked up that we're at this point in human history i guess so uh yeah i haven't really

00:39:26.340 been ghosting lately because kind of getting older hair's thinning out so uh not really on

00:39:32.300 the game as much do you have a story of when you've ghosted somebody and if they crashed out

00:39:38.960 or like anything any fun um no not really stories on that but i was um listening to your co-host and

00:39:50.800 he was talking about like it made me want to call in because he was talking about like

00:39:56.160 uh women don't want like modern women don't want you to know that you have leverage if you do

00:40:01.980 um and like growing up like friends like girlfriends and whatever they would always

00:40:10.280 say that like they don't want me going to the gym too much or yeah like too in shape okay that's

00:40:18.120 what i thought i heard you say so yeah i was like damn i gotta call in because that that's my

00:40:23.760 experience too women they don't want you to be able to when you get serious with them um they

00:40:31.600 want you to be able to keep doing the things or have the tools that attracted them in the first

00:40:36.160 place yeah they want to like dim your light you know and like i said before your two biggest

00:40:43.200 superpowers is being able to walk away and then determine who your girlfriend fiance and wife is

00:40:49.120 and those women the first thing they want to do is take those two things away that's the first thing

00:40:53.600 they want to do and is there is there a point lj when it's diabolical or do you agree with doug

00:41:00.560 that it's never diabolical i don't know i think it just is like in general like i hate that we're

00:41:06.400 at this point i think we should all of our interactions should be in person and if it's

00:41:10.720 going to be our last like i'd rather just tell you that but you've also ghosted so right yeah

00:41:17.680 i'm a hypocrite so i'll just i'm gonna ask you because society still hasn't adjusted but people

00:41:27.520 think that dating happens to women that men inflict trauma on women when it comes to the

00:41:34.080 sexual marketplace and i reject that notion women usually choose where they want to be and they

00:41:40.620 choose the type of men they want to deal with but they always had that out like oh he goes to me but

00:41:47.480 we don't talk about women ghosting every single man has gotten ghosted and you we have to earn

00:41:54.640 our wage to be able to ghost so why can't we use it why not mpa here's here there's one from the

00:42:02.520 chat i got one if a dude convinces a woman to move to a new state and then ghosts would that be

00:42:08.580 diabolical uh okay yeah yeah yeah that would be bad okay you got me right there all right that

00:42:19.540 would be diabolical two dollars from pretty unknown thanks for the super chat sorry you

00:42:26.600 wanted to say lj no i was just agreeing marvin welcome to the show um find me on never married

00:42:35.300 guy or whatever your device isn't connecting just letting you know in the back marvin um what is

00:42:40.300 your thought on the topic ghosting is there when it's diabolical uh do you agree with me more or

00:42:45.960 Doug Moore. And then if you have any personal

00:42:48.140 stories. Oh, never mind.

00:42:50.820 It says his

00:42:52.060 device isn't...

00:42:54.000 Oh, I think he's back.

00:42:55.900 We can hear you, Marvin. What's up, buddy?

00:42:58.700 Oh, great. Thank you. How you

00:43:00.060 doing? I'm good. Do you have an

00:43:02.060 opinion on the topic of ghosting?

00:43:05.100 Yes, I do

00:43:06.080 actually. The

00:43:07.980 man's supposed to have

00:43:09.320 extra leverage at

00:43:11.960 any cost because

00:43:13.580 like Doug M.P. said earlier,

00:43:15.760 women ghost all the time, but when a man

00:43:17.540 ghost women,

00:43:19.620 he needs to look over his options.

00:43:22.220 When he doesn't have leverage,

00:43:24.060 then they treat him like a weak

00:43:25.760 person, like he's not strong, to make

00:43:27.920 crazy decisions

00:43:29.780 for himself in those situations.

00:43:32.400 And I do agree.

00:43:33.760 Sorry, go ahead.

00:43:36.140 I agree with you, Pearl.

00:43:37.880 That's what I was saying.

00:43:39.860 Is there a point when it's diabolical?

00:43:42.200 What is that point?

00:43:43.580 when a woman goes to a man or when a man goes either or is there a point where one person go

00:43:51.400 like to me i'll just say my personal first month and who cares first three months and whatever

00:43:58.780 six months and starting to be a little diabolical i mean maybe if she did something really crazy

00:44:06.680 okay we can we could cut like there's like a you know a cat and mouse game i guess but around six

00:44:13.580 months for me is where i'm like that's a little six months to a year is where i start to think

00:44:18.340 that's a little diabolical on either side you said six months that that's for me that's too long

00:44:25.480 even um even a month and a half is too long if you can't get it cracking within the month that

00:44:30.920 you after you met as i'm talking from a man's perspective then there's something wrong no no

00:44:35.840 i'm saying like you're hooking up like for six months or like you're dating for six months to

00:44:41.920 like no no like first month who cares three months and whatever like but i'm saying six months to a

00:44:49.760 year for me is a little diabolical to just ghost somebody do you agree or disagree if so why and

00:44:58.940 And, like, what's the point for you that it's diabolical?

00:45:05.080 It's kind of tricky on that.

00:45:07.200 For me, when I was in a situation, I told her, you know, the lady I was with about five years ago,

00:45:14.160 you're not going to ghost me.

00:45:15.340 I told her, if you're going to hook me up with somebody else, and I've been seeing you for two years,

00:45:19.320 which did happen, by the way, then there's no point for me to even, you know, stick around.

00:45:25.920 if you're going to just get tired of me all of a sudden

00:45:27.900 and you want to hook me up with your girlfriends.

00:45:30.020 No. To me, that's diabolical.

00:45:32.200 For me, that's diabolical.

00:45:33.880 That means you never – why I'm wasting my time with you then?

00:45:36.420 Why didn't you say so the first year?

00:45:37.860 You're not feeling me.

00:45:39.700 So pushing after six months, I don't know.

00:45:44.360 So what's the point?

00:45:45.480 Give me a number.

00:45:47.600 Like six months, one year, what is it?

00:45:50.760 I'll say about a year.

00:45:53.100 A year. Okay.

00:45:53.800 i could be swayed to a year right but i like to me it's around six months where depending on how

00:45:59.840 much time you spent together is capitalism to blame for the dating crisis you don't actually

00:46:04.620 i was thinking about how in college relationships moved so much faster because you could have like

00:46:12.100 a full-blown love of romance in like a week because you're like we're talking about high school

00:46:17.340 high school no no no not in my high school that didn't happen no no no

00:46:22.200 wait let me finish let me finish high school like no you have your parents there whatever

00:46:29.340 but in college it's free rate so you could meet someone in the dining hall and now you're spending

00:46:34.560 24 hours a day together for like you know a week you feel like you're in love you know

00:46:41.260 where as an adult that's like crazy like now apparently that's crazy you know what i mean

00:46:47.620 well high school like public school if you went to a decent size public school everyone kind of

00:46:54.440 knew of each other and you could just walk up to a girl that kind of knew you and say hey you you

00:46:59.520 want to be my girlfriend and if she said yes you're like zero to holding hands and like waiting

00:47:06.480 for each other outside each other's classes and hanging out all the time in like two seconds

00:47:10.700 not in my high school no one really dated in my high school it was just like the popular kids

00:47:15.480 you but yeah when in college people would like date and like break up so fast and it would like

00:47:24.280 be like it would be they'd be like full-fledged in love and then like done the next week but once

00:47:31.120 you hit adulthood relationships just move a lot slower once people get to the city don't get me

00:47:36.260 started with college i was in college once and i had my share of women in college it was wild

00:47:41.620 pearl it was wild i even hooked up at least three ladies in my early two in the early 2000s when i

00:47:47.540 went my first year as a community college and i'm telling you it was one of those experiences as a

00:47:52.580 young boy that i was i never i didn't think i could you know survive it you know i was just

00:47:58.260 just learning the rope so to say yeah yeah it's capitalism to blame for the dating crisis um

00:48:05.540 Thanks for calling in, Marvin. Is capitalism to blame for the dating crisis? No, I don't think so. It's diabolical. Who do we blame on this channel? Where have you been? Who do we blame? Women. The answer, whose fault is it? You know who it might want. That's the dumbest. I'm sorry, but that's the dumbest question I've ever got on this channel. Where have you been? I'm going to blame capitalism? No, I blame women.

00:48:35.540 Um, it's like, you know, single motherhood, who's to blame women, you know, if a kid's

00:48:41.600 fucked up, if a kid's a criminal, who's to blame the mother, if the baby, you know, it's

00:48:49.500 like, um, if the kid's autistic, probably the mother, you know, it's probably old.

00:48:53.060 Yeah.

00:48:54.040 Autism, autism is on the rise because women, old women are having babies with their old

00:49:01.060 ass dried up eggs.

00:49:02.240 You cannot convince me any different.

00:49:04.260 Yeah.

00:49:04.600 it's um so and on this channel it's always women so please like let's get better i know i said

00:49:11.740 there's no stupid questions except for that one i'm sorry all right it's diabolical if you tell

00:49:17.460 your wife and kids you're gonna get some milk and then never come back yeah actually after kids is

00:49:22.320 a diabolical doug mpa you're black so you guys know all about that you know so the white guy's

00:49:32.900 like yeah that's diabolical let's see what the black guys so so let me tell you first off you've

00:49:38.200 seen what a lot a lot of our women are like dude you've seen them and you know and we're brainwise

00:49:45.640 both by the black matriarchy and like a lot of guys a lot of black people if they just wake up

00:49:50.480 one day and your wife is a freaking weaved up tattooed fat freaking b-dub you know odds are

00:49:59.780 she's you know she she's hitting them and freaking also hey what did that abilo in the chat say it's

00:50:07.940 prison they're not going to get some milk they're breaking out of prison a lot of these guys play

00:50:13.060 devil's advocate here we talked to the section 8 housing guy all right and i'm hearing that black

00:50:19.540 man there's black men with 100 bottles of pee in his apartment you know what i mean it's not like

00:50:24.420 well you know i can tell you i wouldn't defend black men on that point but i guarantee you most

00:50:33.060 of his stories are single black women i guarantee it okay so not diabolical uh-uh not okay not in

00:50:40.340 the black community lj if it's a if it's a ghetto ass black woman is it diabolical to ghost after a

00:50:46.440 kid uh i look at him shake uh no comment well so like i'm gonna date myself but you guys remember

00:50:59.980 that um you guys remember fresh prince of bel-air the show and there was an episode where like will's

00:51:07.160 father came back and he and then he thought he was gonna go on the road with his dad and then at the

00:51:12.560 and his dad left and he's like why don't he want me man will's mom was a ball a ball busting

00:51:23.280 bitch that entire show that entire show who wouldn't leave that woman he his dad's problem

00:51:32.440 was that he came back into his life i'm one of those people look guys if you don't want to deal

00:51:36.540 with a child walk away and stay away forever i always say if if a woman were to have a child

00:51:42.860 against my will all she's getting from me is child support and then 15 years later

00:51:49.380 when that little bastard grows up and knocks on my door i'll say look hey how are you i'm your son

00:51:57.000 i'm your daughter okay well it's nice to meet you take three steps back please wham and slam the door

00:52:03.240 in their face guys if you have if a woman has a child against your will you

00:52:08.880 don't have to deal with it pay your child support and leave but stay away

00:52:12.360 forever don't do this whole thing we're 10 years later 15 years later or your

00:52:17.520 son makes it to the NBA or or gets a PAC and you're like oh I'm coming back stay

00:52:22.360 away away around he's sticking around I can be okay have a question cuz I know I

00:52:30.180 i know you'd be open like in the right situation you'd want a kid right what if she she got

00:52:36.340 pregnant against your will she tries to raise that little bastard for six months and it's like

00:52:40.420 mother's hood's heart and she comes to you and she says look i'm willing to sign over custody

00:52:45.460 and never see you again i'll take it okay okay i'll take it what if she says okay i want to see

00:52:52.260 how far we can go with this i want you to raise a little little you know or whatever um

00:53:00.180 Um, and I want to be here.

00:53:02.100 I want to see the kid every other weekend and I don't even want to, I just want to see

00:53:08.340 the child every other week.

00:53:09.420 I know I'm a fuck up.

00:53:10.740 Could I just see him?

00:53:11.720 Could I, could you watch him all the time?

00:53:13.220 And I just, every other weekend.

00:53:14.980 No, because women can't help themselves.

00:53:17.680 Women have this, like, women will always have to give their input because they gave birth

00:53:22.920 to the child.

00:53:23.660 White guys have guilt.

00:53:24.940 You know what I mean?

00:53:26.740 Yeah.

00:53:27.480 Too guilty.

00:53:28.240 i've said that before yeah that's why white guys get taken advantage of the most they're they're

00:53:34.200 like funding all of america you know while women and black people just live off of them could you

00:53:39.840 imagine if you put the attitude and the diabolical nature of black women into white men's brains

00:53:47.120 they couldn't do it we'd be screwed okay i've said i've said this before you look and sound

00:53:53.280 like donna from that 70s show i don't think so but i'll i think we're just tall redheads but i'll

00:53:58.620 take it thank you um so if she had any contact at all you would say no 100 because i i have friends

00:54:08.300 who have who have adopted and they have like an open adoption where the biological mom can still

00:54:13.760 see the kid what look why would you do that why so this crackhead who who is one step away from

00:54:22.980 dropping her from throwing her baby away in a dumpster you are taking on the

00:54:29.700 burden of raising a child but the mother still gets to see the kid get the out of

00:54:34.740 here this is why or it's even worse you've seen those stories were like the

00:54:38.900 stepdad raised the daughter but then the daughter wants her biological dad to

00:54:44.520 walk her down the aisle although the biological dad never spent a penny or

00:54:48.340 any uh to raise her or any time with her just avoid that situation all together dude no way

00:54:55.280 okay hey before i go y'all i got i do have one ghosting story that i forgot okay um

00:55:02.060 tell me whether this is a dive ball call or not yeah look at this he feels guilty you see that

00:55:08.620 white guy guilt yeah so i'm teed up here so i i uh had a tinder date brought her back she was a

00:55:19.800 a black chick and uh what'd you do that for uh it's easy that's why come on now come on i'm sorry

00:55:29.080 go ahead go ahead go ahead so anyways we hooked up and then she did my laundry right after which

00:55:35.520 i think y'all were talking about like a couple shows ago anyway i drove her back to her place

00:55:41.840 totally ghosted her but um i never forgot the laundry that was pretty that was pretty neat

00:55:47.840 i'm gonna have to ask you so do you get a lot of

00:55:52.320 a lot of black women coming after you of course he does uh i used to more

00:55:57.440 which is a weird thing to say okay okay like guys go ahead okay i'm gonna ask you a question you

00:56:07.040 don't have to answer answer if you don't want to how would you feel about marrying a black woman

00:56:13.520 and having a half black child um i yeah it's not it would depend on the woman you know because i

00:56:23.200 it's always so like i'm black and if my if the woman i have a kid with is white i'm black and

00:56:30.600 then the child is black so i can still help navigate that child through life right oh i

00:56:38.420 know where you're going yeah and okay and the mother's black and the child is black

00:56:43.900 she's all first off there'd be a disconnect i think the mother would definitely perceive that

00:56:52.320 there's a disconnect between you and that child because you're white and she's black and the child

00:56:57.260 is black and then also i think that a lot of these black women they put the white guy in a position

00:57:02.840 where he has to apologize for his whiteness and it and his privilege to be in a relationship or

00:57:08.920 married to that woman yeah you're all good points that's why i said it would depend on the woman

00:57:14.600 because there definitely are black women that like you could tell them up front hey like this is how

00:57:21.580 this is gonna go and if i'm having a child with her that's definitely a conversation that we've

00:57:27.740 had um why did you ghost the girl like was she just too ugly or what uh this is kind of like

00:57:36.960 this is bad but like no no no it's a lot left a lot of makeup in the bed

00:57:44.080 yeah i'm just being honest here y'all uh was it someone else's hair

00:57:51.980 that wasn't hers left over all over your pillow and stuff no no i'm not gonna go there it was

00:57:58.040 more like just the crazy eyes and like intensity around the whole thing like i think she went back

00:58:06.140 into my trash can and stole the condom because i couldn't find it what so yeah

00:58:13.040 you white guys a target but it's been like two years so i don't i think we're good

00:58:21.040 maybe maybe maybe a little johnny will come or daquan yeah i'm just saying i might find out

00:58:28.720 what you're talking about you gotta watch out because there's this divestment movement where

00:58:33.280 like white women and black women are actively trying to get both white men and i remember i

00:58:39.960 dated this girl one time this black woman and she was trashing on black guys who date white women

00:58:45.560 but then she said a white guy that marries a black woman is the celebration of a black woman and she

00:58:51.380 was dead serious so be careful out there man these b-dubs or and then you know that one guy

00:58:57.040 in new york he's he's um he he's one of the small hats and he's been like inseminating all these

00:59:04.980 women he has a phc in mathematics a full head of hair and he's like he's inseminating all these

00:59:10.640 women i think he has like 85 kids or something like that you heard of him no man anyway like

00:59:17.660 over half of his kids are black damn yeah so just be careful out there man because these

00:59:27.160 like these b-dubs they're looking for white guys he's done look at his face

00:59:34.200 yeah i'm passed out well never mind

00:59:39.320 this is a ling ling might get him but he's done with these black women

00:59:44.200 this is a safe space man you can go ahead and let it all out go for it

00:59:47.880 no one's watching don't worry about it no yeah what could go wrong

00:59:52.120 hey thanks for having me up y'all anytime man you're a great call calling anytime bro appreciate

01:00:01.240 y'all that was awesome i just demonstrated my white guys versus like his point so well

01:00:11.640 oh my god when you say that white guys are the most tolerant that they do so much but really

01:00:22.760 ask for so little back like that guy he seems like one of them we're like he's probably dealt

01:00:28.400 with a whole bunch of stuff and he just lets it slide off his shoulders you know he still has a

01:00:34.000 good general disposition a good a good outlook on life dude yeah yeah and the black guy's like

01:00:40.520 yeah banded these kids yeah uh-huh awesome was a rolling stone yep

01:00:46.600 um all right if anyone else wants to call in give me reasons why you've ghosted women just

01:00:56.580 start rattling them off or do you think there's a difference between when a guy

01:01:02.560 ghosts a girl and a girl goes to a guy um uh yeah because when the guy goes to girl it means more

01:01:13.660 because there's probably a good reason where if a girl goes to guy it was probably for no reason

01:01:19.460 he wore the wrong kind of shoes or yeah um he he talked about anime or something like that

01:01:28.260 what how do i call in with this profile picture just don't

01:01:33.820 click on the link at the top of the chat stop that

01:01:40.380 with that profile but just what is that why don't you like have a shirt on it it's like half over

01:01:54.260 your head oh my god okay but there's like a social infrastructure in place that still lets women get

01:02:01.780 away with their foolishness and just ghost is one of them if a woman goes it's because she felt the

01:02:08.100 ick or the vibes weren't there or she felt like her safety was being compromised or some kind of

01:02:13.860 crap but there's no good reason for a guy to ghost no good reason and i don't know why that is

01:02:20.820 guys ghost these broads just do it you don't owe these women anything especially closure

01:02:27.180 i honestly i said it before i think women will always remember the guy where everything went

01:02:33.900 really well on a couple of dates and he just stopped talking to her she will always remember

01:02:37.520 that guy always wonder why be that guy oh yeah this is another uptick in ghosting marketplace

01:02:47.120 meetup for sale so like facebook i haven't really experienced this yet because i just started

01:02:53.080 selling stuff on marketplace but i've heard that the ghosting on facebook marketplace is just

01:02:58.300 incredible um yeah true just like women can have dating preferences yeah

01:03:08.200 really so do you think it's different if the woman was a good woman to him

01:03:16.260 do you think it's still like i mean because come on we we all know the savage that just can get

01:03:22.680 he can actually get nice girls but he's a savage if he ghosts her do you do you think it's

01:03:28.140 diabolical or no okay so this whole good woman thing come on now you thought you were gonna get

01:03:35.500 me huh no come on no i'm just like devil's advocate today so keep going keep going no i just

01:03:43.100 here's the thing a good woman gets less and less good the more serious you get to her and the

01:03:51.180 longer you're with her so honestly you could argue that's a good point that's a good point because of

01:03:57.460 that you it would be better for you to ghost you you're more justified to ghost the longer you're

01:04:04.160 with the woman damn that was a good point that was a good honestly um exoskeleton thank you for

01:04:11.080 the dollar i think the more important question there is are there any girls that don't talk

01:04:15.440 to multiple men at the same time that's why men are done okay good point good point all right we

01:04:20.400 got joshua smith welcome to the show so do you think there's a certain point that it's diabolical

01:04:29.180 to ghost somebody and do you have a ghosting story if you have a ghost story feel free to tell it go

01:04:35.020 ahead no i really uh my story about this girl i was dealing with a white girl i'm a black i'm from

01:04:41.420 gary indiana the same place michael jackson and i dealt with black women all my life that's why

01:04:48.460 my dog is messing with me i dealt with black women all my life and between the white and black it's

01:04:55.020 the same to me the white girls with ours a little bit younger uh was doing just fine i think she's

01:05:01.260 what 23 years old i believe and uh what happened was her granddad and grandma end up passing away

01:05:07.740 that's who's taking care of her and once she got her uh inheritance she pretty much kicked

01:05:12.220 me to the side and uh i knew there ain't a ghost story just uh check out your uh content a lot

01:05:19.180 i'm actually shocked i was able to get in here but i was just looking at the show we don't have

01:05:25.820 a ghost story out of ghost females like that i'm not handsome enough to do that but uh it

01:05:31.340 was just a story about what you guys are talking about the bw's it was just okay but i also heard

01:05:38.620 that comment you said about my shirt the reason i had it that way i was young i was trying to drive

01:05:42.140 love about men you can roast them and they don't get offended they're just like oh no no i was young

01:05:56.940 like where the girl will be like i can't believe you said that about me like imagine if i said

01:06:02.700 that about a black woman she would call in and she would just be like

01:06:05.980 yeah she'd be like i still look like that in fact i looked even better now

01:06:14.020 15 years later i look better now wait okay sean i see you in the chat call in my guy um

01:06:22.800 apparently um lewis the thurox's view of the man is thorough thorough's view of the

01:06:32.740 Manosphere is deeply personal because his father was famous for infidelity. Since his father was

01:06:38.400 away for months at a time, Lewis is much closer to his mother and inherited a soft boy persona.

01:06:44.040 Lewis developed a maternal identification as a defense against his father's Casanova lifestyle.

01:06:48.720 By adopting a non-threatening empathetic style, he distinguishes himself from the dishonorable

01:06:54.300 archetype his father embodied. He relies on his mother Anne and his wife Nancy as essential

01:07:00.600 anchors they provide the pragmatic stabilizing reality that he finds in the volatile performance

01:07:05.500 heavy world of his father and the man of spear type he now critiques okay so he watched his mom

01:07:10.860 get cheated on and that's why he's salty against the men slaying bitches well happens to the best

01:07:17.840 of us um girls tend to ghost based on personal insecurities i dated a girl for three years

01:07:28.440 thing ghosted her wife call in call in and tell that story um yeah see go ahead i'm sorry that's

01:07:39.880 okay um when a man goes to woman usually that woman is easier to reel back in because they

01:07:44.920 become obsessive and never give up it's one of your best tools see avila's you got to call in

01:07:52.120 Oh, he says that he's busy.

01:07:54.000 Never mind.

01:07:55.420 Al says, I tried clicking on the link,

01:07:59.340 but Stream Merit said it won't allow me to sign up to do its service

01:08:01.720 because I don't have an active credit card.

01:08:04.100 Shouldn't.

01:08:04.600 I think it's free.

01:08:06.700 So, I don't know.

01:08:07.860 C-Pain says.

01:08:08.400 Well, if you've got a story, type it in the chat, and I'll read it.

01:08:12.160 If the three years over that is.

01:08:15.180 C-Pain said, I've been ghosted.

01:08:17.840 It's all in the beautiful circle of life.

01:08:19.680 Yep, I agree.

01:08:20.280 i agree guys it says once again we still have this knee jerk reaction to hold men to a higher

01:08:29.880 standard honestly admit it too many of you think that it's ghost is just what women do but then

01:08:37.900 like if a man does it it's just so much worse or that men men are the ones who inflict pain and

01:08:45.860 Anguish upon women and dating would not the other way around because we've just accepted guys if a woman goes you or

01:08:53.780 Says that you don't she doesn't want to be around you or whatever you just have to get over it and move on

01:08:59.140 Women should have to do that, too

01:09:01.300 You don't owe these women anything guys. I keep saying it men

01:09:05.820 We held ourselves to a higher standard women called that misogyny and patriarchy women knew not what they asked for now

01:09:12.280 They're out here

01:09:13.420 dating is blood sport guys it's brutal we just get our scars before they do

01:09:23.500 oh these poor women you'd be surprised women go for the alpha chads the younger we are

01:09:29.260 so i i don't think women ever go ahead i almost think it's like more diabolical when you're

01:09:35.500 younger because you get like the most like how like the most masculine guys get the youngest women

01:09:43.420 what i mean like that's why all those nba players have like their moms got pregnant in high school

01:09:51.820 the guys that are the most like diabolical to pick up the youngest women so like if anything like

01:09:59.740 if any like if anything like the guys are more diabolical when you're i'm just speaking like

01:10:04.940 from experience but they're almost more diabolical when they're younger um let's see i am really

01:10:10.700 trying to communicate okay yeah he's out of here um he's been showing this whole time and now you're

01:10:19.580 blocked you dumb ass yeah well chad's get ghosted too i'm sure they do but they have like three

01:10:26.500 stacys you know what i mean it's like well yeah one thing chad's do is they get ghosted and they

01:10:33.800 just keep moving on just keep going guys oh yeah you don't have time to wonder why why does she

01:10:40.200 talk to me who cares there's nothing you can do about it just move on and that's what these women

01:10:47.560 need to do he didn't want to talk to you move on women get so bent about getting ghosted that they

01:10:52.840 have those are we dating the same guy facebook groups and they always say oh do you think why

01:10:59.720 don't men ever have those ass it's because we get used to this this happens to us so often

01:11:05.160 when we're young that we get used to by the time it happens in our 30s and 40s we just don't even

01:11:10.040 care about it anymore and like i said in society if you're a guy and a woman goes to you or says

01:11:16.920 that she doesn't want to be around you or anything you got you just and you do anything but move on

01:11:22.600 it can be a problem for you just move on i just slowly contact less in the rare case of a breakup

01:11:29.560 i don't really though it just seems to be the nicest way to go about it if the girl keeps trying

01:11:35.160 what do you think about ghosting versus like slowly contacting less

01:11:40.400 um what's your um pros and cons of each so slowly contacting less it really has to involve

01:11:49.380 to make sure that she doesn't see you again physically

01:11:52.720 uh because each time you see her physically it resets the clock so the slow communication

01:12:02.280 the less communication thing

01:12:04.540 you have to do that by text message

01:12:07.220 or by phone and just don't see her

01:12:09.280 physically so that works

01:12:10.900 would you guys

01:12:13.500 say that the slow roll

01:12:14.660 is less

01:12:16.440 hurtful to women than ghosting

01:12:19.300 hmm

01:12:23.540 oh there's an owl I'm thinking about

01:12:29.300 Talon but I need more money

01:12:30.600 sorry

01:12:32.100 um let me think the slow roll or ghosting

01:12:35.580 hey

01:12:38.980 i i think the i would say straight ghosting i would say that the slow roll because like the

01:12:47.020 slow roll you give a little hope okay so so how about this you call me right so okay oh okay okay

01:12:55.520 okay we smashed a couple times and like before before i smashed i was calling you all the time

01:13:04.580 i was making you feel like a princess right then you know i was calling you all the time and then

01:13:11.720 all of a sudden you have to start calling me and then you call me and i'm like hey hey how's it

01:13:17.180 you're like hey so what's going on i'm like nothing how are you you're like good and i'm just

01:13:23.520 like so i'm just really busy i mean i can't talk long and that happens like three or four times in

01:13:32.740 a row um no i think that the the straight like blocked would be worse i don't know why i don't

01:13:41.980 know why it seems like it would get right to the point but i like i feel like if i'm used to talking

01:13:48.840 you every day and it slowly tapers off then you slowly start to you know what it is it's

01:13:54.760 then you're slowly going to prospects right so then when he eventually slated off completely

01:14:02.440 it's like like but when it's out of the blue like if i'm only talking to you then it's like

01:14:08.920 does that make sense like then it's like ah now now okay i'm by my lonesome for two days because

01:14:15.640 as a woman okay yeah how about this the slow roll out and the ghost you there you don't get

01:14:24.760 the reason why because the slow route they just stop communicating and you're gonna get to the

01:14:31.840 point where you're gonna start asking why and they're not gonna tell you why they're just gonna

01:14:36.920 stop so would you rather not be able to ask them why and have them not tell you or not have the

01:14:42.820 opportunity to ask them why them not tell you um i'd rather i do you know what it is i don't know

01:14:50.740 why but i would just prefer the slow roll like personally i just would i don't i don't think

01:14:57.220 it's like the most efficient i actually think i actually think it should be worse because it

01:15:04.020 wastes more of my time right and gives you hope but i just think like because like then at least

01:15:11.140 i see it coming i can take steps like you know what i mean but i think when it comes out of

01:15:16.100 nowhere and you don't see it coming blocked deleted etc it's like you know now now if as a

01:15:23.460 girl it takes a while to find a guy you really like so that it's going to take me a while to do

01:15:27.580 that so um i you don't owe her the slow rule i and it doesn't make sense because as i'm saying

01:15:36.360 it i'm like this is not efficient the other way gets right to the point but because of my feelings

01:15:40.740 i prefer the slow roll you know um sean what do you think of the topic i know you got something

01:15:48.260 to say on this i was going to say it doesn't give you hope pearl it gives you coke that's probably

01:15:54.420 yeah let's go

01:15:55.540 you get it so ghost and i think doug doug you were really preaching just now when you just said move

01:16:07.520 on i think the most important thing for you to realize is when you're getting ghost and if you're

01:16:13.040 getting ghost like at the end of the day you just dodged a bullet you know like somebody just did

01:16:18.920 you a favor and so the result remains the same if they tell you or if they don't tell you they

01:16:23.860 don't want to rock with you and so i think it's crucial to only focus on your hot leads and people

01:16:28.460 who really want to be with you so um if the interest is very low or they got distracted

01:16:34.000 then they have other options and that's probably what happened or maybe that didn't happen who

01:16:38.360 knows but i don't think it's much return on investment and energy time and attention to say

01:16:44.240 what happened what was the conclusion looking for the justification so at the end of the day

01:16:50.020 i just say keep it pushing turnover baby you know what i'm saying i don't take it personal when the

01:16:55.120 seller says they want an extra million on the property and i don't want to give it to them

01:16:59.040 i'm just like i hope you find what you're looking for i'm not private equity i'm an individual

01:17:03.360 investor so i can't buy it at that price um do you think there's a point where ghosting is diabolical

01:17:13.360 nah i mean at the end of the day

01:17:17.280 nah i'll be like this is why sean's my guy this is why he's my guy let's go

01:17:22.560 i remember one time in my life i went somewhere and then i was supposed to meet this young lady

01:17:26.720 in a like rooftop bar you know i had my appointment and i'm sitting there just waiting right like

01:17:33.920 maybe 20 minutes prior we had a contact everything was gravy right and i'm like okay maybe she got

01:17:39.120 hit by a scooter i don't know but at the end of the day i sat down had a great meal and said hey

01:17:44.640 look i paid less for dinner that sounds like a win-win for me so i just enjoyed my time no i met

01:17:49.840 like um for like in a relationship so like you're dating because i'll tell you i'll tell you what i

01:17:56.160 said and i'll tell you what doug said okay go ahead i said for me personally i think first month

01:18:02.640 who cares you don't like whatever three months six months is where i'm like that's a little

01:18:10.080 diabolical well i could be swayed up to a year where i'm like do you know what um where it's

01:18:17.280 like okay after a year or last whatever like i could be swayed that way but me personally

01:18:24.960 if i'm like seeing someone for six months i'd give them a text or at least at least like but

01:18:30.320 a conversation i think it's kind of diabolical to not doug mpa on the other hand um says that

01:18:36.880 it's were it's actually there's more reason to ghost later because the women get worse

01:18:42.080 so yeah yeah wait so you mean somebody's in a relationship and they ghosting you in the

01:18:48.240 relationship yeah that's the thing yeah yep go out go out to to get a pack of cigarettes or some

01:18:54.720 milk and just don't come back ah okay okay first of all that's hilarious but also sometimes i just

01:19:04.480 don't take it personal all right other people have reasons why they ghost because maybe they're not

01:19:08.960 good at confrontation maybe they feel guilty why would you slow hey hold on for you though

01:19:16.400 go ahead go ahead i'm sorry shot for you like when is it diabolical were you like you wouldn't

01:19:23.120 ghost or you think like when do you think it's diabolical for me doing it to someone else i

01:19:29.200 wouldn't do it because that's just not the way i communicate my line of communication is through

01:19:33.680 communication but some people's line of communication is through withdrawal like that's

01:19:38.240 just who they are i'm pretty sure that same person who goes to somebody in relationship

01:19:42.480 probably don't even get back to people that'd be the motherfucker like we'd be talking about a

01:19:46.800 friend like hey pearl house what you call it doing and i'm like yeah man i need to hit that person up

01:19:50.480 they messaged me like three months ago i'm like damn you ain't reach out to them they said hi to

01:19:55.040 you they're probably a person who don't respond to anybody like they just do whatever they want

01:19:59.840 they ghost their real friends they ghost their mama like why would i take it personal uh doug

01:20:04.720 mpa what are you saying are you gonna say we always assume that there's some kind of weakness

01:20:10.560 in certain well he's not that person's probably not good at confrontation like maybe the person

01:20:18.640 knows that woman enough to know that that that person isn't worth having a confrontation with

01:20:24.880 like these women are crazy and they want what they want and you don't have to give it to them

01:20:30.000 like women feel entitled to men's resources money time and closure just don't give them any of it

01:20:36.800 guys we don't have to anymore we are not obligated to give women closure that whole thing oh yeah

01:20:43.360 you need to i don't have to do anything out here i don't yeah that's true i agree with that too

01:20:51.440 i think guys need to take more of a standard position again i'm not saying they're victims

01:20:55.840 i'm not saying like oh my gosh they're so poor confrontational they're so they're so polite

01:21:00.640 they're probably still a goddamn chaos in a menace but at the end of the day

01:21:07.760 there's this narrative in dating that like men inflict dating on women you know like

01:21:14.560 and i don't we need society hasn't caught up with the fact that women choose to be where they are

01:21:21.840 with professionally in their personal lives and dating you choose to be where you are period

01:21:27.600 but we just have this thing where like oh yeah men need to not ghost

01:21:33.040 i'm not saying you said that but that's like the general sense of that yeah for sure and i'm like

01:21:37.280 why men we tried taking the higher road we tried to be morally superior we tried all that but they

01:21:44.160 call the patriarchy of the misogyny now we are where we are but i think but also doug i think

01:21:52.560 that's their game like shame anything you do and elevate anything i do i think i just saw something

01:21:57.760 called what was it called pearl how hot wiping where it was like if you if you basically allow

01:22:04.640 your wife to go sleep with another male it's actually beneficial for the relationship oh my

01:22:11.760 god not swapping not swinging pearl not like hey the guy gets to hook up with your wife and he gets

01:22:18.880 to hook up with your wife no no no no no this is just your wife going on a solo mission but the

01:22:23.360 way women articulated their actual position on it actually made it seem like oh this is for the

01:22:30.000 embedment of the relationship can you make that for men can you please make the version of that

01:22:36.800 like how would you articulate because you're really good at this stuff the version of like

01:22:40.880 what women did were that but for men yeah so like like sell the hot husband to fanatic where ladies

01:22:48.400 it would be beneficial to let your husband sleep with other uh go for it sean let's hear it

01:22:56.080 it's kind of difficult because that's what i do in real life i like already do

01:23:02.560 but it requires a lot more prep work and a lot of more prep uh propagandize into my narrative in

01:23:08.800 order for that to work um i definitely don't come at it as a position of i want to be but nasty out

01:23:15.280 here and it's just a sexual thing i actually try to bring her into why i'm doing it on an emotional

01:23:20.640 and physical level okay let's hear it okay okay okay okay pearl roleplay go for it yeah let's

01:23:26.320 let's pretend you know on the uh hold on a villa hold on man this is gonna be good hold on a second

01:23:32.880 okay okay let's go i love spending time with you

01:23:38.480 sure okay go ahead okay i love i love spending time with you it's been so great

01:23:46.720 yeah i enjoy it too i mean i think we have good vibes and good energy wouldn't you agree

01:23:52.640 yeah it's been awesome hold on give me a second you gotta say things um kind of serious

01:24:00.880 oh yeah yeah oh i need to say that yeah you gotta try to lock them down oh this is that

01:24:08.800 convo okay oh okay okay so yeah things have been um getting kind of serious

01:24:16.080 you know yeah you know life is serious i think i always take

01:24:22.000 so to you that's what i think is a good quality

01:24:30.880 let's go all right all right pro get back into the game let's go get back into the game yeah but

01:24:37.520 um you know i'm just wondering like what what are we are we together

01:24:44.320 well one of the important things about our relationship and the time we spent is have

01:24:50.560 you enjoyed the time we spent together yeah it's been great you've taken me on all these great

01:24:55.840 dates um i love like hanging out with you i think we have great chemistry i think it's been amazing

01:25:02.320 yeah right it's almost like no downside yeah i haven't even had arguments like that that's why i

01:25:08.160 say communication is key and i always communicated to you that my life is different in the way i live

01:25:16.720 it right would you agree yeah yeah i mean i know that like you know you're um you just met like

01:25:25.680 where you live and stuff right yeah is that wait what'd you say excuse me just not like where you

01:25:31.920 live you know like you live a little different you get to work from home yeah yeah yeah i don't

01:25:38.000 even work anymore you know so that's the magic and i think for the majority of our time together i've

01:25:44.800 always attempted to pour positive beneficial information and assistance to you i've always

01:25:52.960 supported you right so one of the things about us having this relationship is that i live my

01:26:01.680 life according to my own terms no one else designs how our life is going to be i i i don't live like

01:26:08.880 that and so how do you feel about our relationship in the direction that's headed right now

01:26:14.640 i mean it's been great you know

01:26:16.400 exactly i would say the same thing so when it comes down to how i have an experience

01:26:28.640 i think it's important to realize that we have a strong connection and a strong bond

01:26:36.480 yeah and i have many strong connections and strong bonds many

01:26:41.680 well what is that like there's other girls you're seeing other people

01:26:47.980 well we we all see people right we see people when we go outside but on a serious note

01:26:56.860 on a serious note right like let's get back to it you know I'm just messing with you for a bit

01:27:02.860 but on a serious note I've always told you that I remain open on my side

01:27:10.120 i just don't like ultimatums i won't be told what to do period does that mean i don't care for you

01:27:18.100 that doesn't mean i won't be honest everything i've told you about myself i've been completely

01:27:23.620 honest from day one haven't i i told you this from the day we met i'd rather be honest about

01:27:31.240 my life remember those words exactly you know okay well let's go over this is why these

01:27:37.820 conversations are important to get clarification right so we could communicate right so this is

01:27:44.060 the perfect conversation that we need to have and so if you don't remember right or possibly

01:27:52.940 when i went over it you didn't understand let's talk about it now yeah and so my experience have

01:28:01.260 always had are you still there connections kind of messing up yeah she she's frozen

01:28:10.300 i wonder if she'll come man sean you have like a natural gift for this dude straight up man it's

01:28:17.820 hey it's it's bulletproof dude it's bulletproof sorry i left i just got a couple girls shut up

01:28:24.140 sorry okay here's just back sorry i left i just got a little emotional that's okay you know what

01:28:30.460 you know what i really respect that about you is that when you do get emotional you have the

01:28:35.420 intelligence the emotional intelligence to understand when you're emotional

01:28:39.260 and when you can disengage from the conversation to decide to come back when you're ready

01:28:43.260 and balanced so i really do appreciate that you've seen people who when they get emotional

01:28:49.900 the conversation goes left and it's not very productive it's very toxic so i appreciate that

01:28:54.380 you did that really are you ready now so we can continue yeah i'm ready

01:29:02.780 one of the important things is that i want you to understand that while we're in this relationship

01:29:09.500 yeah i'm going to have other people that might be potential partners i've always lived my life like

01:29:17.660 this now i will have the complete transparency that i had with you before i don't want to be a

01:29:26.620 person who lies to the people i care about i always tell the truth and so i want you to understand

01:29:33.980 that that's how i live now i can understand if that's not for you this is something that i'm

01:29:38.460 not forcing on you you have the opportunity to say you know what i had time to think it over

01:29:43.500 and that's just not my life and i accept that we'll still be cool well you know i'll see you

01:29:49.660 i'll say hello we'll still be connected because we had such a great time with each other

01:29:53.740 but i just want you to understand how i live and i want you to just think it over

01:30:00.620 because this is very important to me well does that um does that mean like how many like is there

01:30:06.400 a ton? No, I mean, let's say for a scenario, I had a situation before where it was just two.

01:30:18.020 Both of the girls knew each other. They didn't have a problem with each other. But one thing I

01:30:21.960 won't do is say that I'm with you only, roll over and swipe on Tinder behind your back. I don't live

01:30:27.840 that lifestyle. You can't beat me up anyways. So I'm really just actually not scared of you. I'm

01:30:34.360 telling you the truth because i care well i guess this sounds amazing now see come on this sounds

01:30:42.060 amazing i'm going with it right wait so what what happens what are the options like what do the

01:30:47.740 girls do when you give up most of the time the girls actually says they appreciate me being nice

01:30:54.180 they hate like somebody lying that's not easy they never heard those words usually from a person

01:30:59.240 and then also i actually paint the picture which is true i'm not doing it so i can go out and have

01:31:04.340 like i give you an example one girl was like well my guy he goes out and sleeps with let's say pay

01:31:11.100 for play i'm like could you imagine that like i don't want to be i'm not going to be with you and

01:31:16.300 then just doing stuff on the side with pay for play individuals right like would you prefer me

01:31:21.320 to get myself involved with something like that versus somebody you know yourself that's a good

01:31:27.180 person and so most girls are just wanting to know like what does it look like are you paying for

01:31:31.680 play? Are you going out here and having a plethora of a bunch of girls? But watch this. This is the

01:31:37.140 most important part. In the relationship, when I first met her, I wasn't quick to get her to the

01:31:43.100 bed. She wanted to have sex with me, but I didn't do it with her. So she knows I usually take my

01:31:48.980 time with vetting a female and getting to that level with a female. So they're not like just

01:31:54.640 saying like, oh, okay. And they know that you'll protect them to some degree.

01:31:58.860 yeah i'll protect them and most important thing is i'll just tell them the truth like i'll keep

01:32:04.840 it real i'm not gonna hide anything like nothing's gonna be like oh i found a message like my phone's

01:32:11.000 open like they already know what it is all information is transparent it's a very different

01:32:15.900 experience yeah yeah because so usually they just want to think about it yeah because most women

01:32:21.080 have been lied to about it i could see exactly yeah i could see that um most of them been lying

01:32:28.300 to about it yeah let's see a villos oh wait hold on well that sounds great

01:32:37.140 now listen i don't want you to just say that sounds great i get it i want you to take time

01:32:44.280 and think about it and if you have any questions so we can come back and just talk about it it's

01:32:48.760 not a done deal cut and dry situation you know my mind is where it is it's fixed on the matter

01:32:55.380 but i love having a conversation about it and letting you think about it yourself not just

01:33:02.000 pushing on you in one conversation and so one and done see you know so anytime you want to talk

01:33:06.700 about it just sit down or just say hey tap me on the shoulder let's have that talk again

01:33:10.540 and we can have it nice doug mpa you got any questions uh are you taking notes oh yeah you

01:33:21.060 know haven't you you heard the the keyboard the keys typing this whole time taking notes

01:33:27.740 my i'm gonna be honest my experiences have not been that my experiences have been broken

01:33:35.240 windshields slash tires x is finding out where i work chasing off other women like you guys have

01:33:44.020 and that's experiences why don't you do you want to give me your breakup do you want to break up

01:33:49.460 with me and like maybe we could see how it could be improved who me you yeah you want to break up

01:33:57.460 show me show me how you do it i'd be like okay okay first first i would call you to say hey pearl

01:34:03.900 hey um how's it going uh today has been so busy uh but i needed to sit down with you and talk to

01:34:11.360 you uh are you near starbucks by chance no no well i'm gonna meet you at starbucks over at so

01:34:20.480 and so uh it's super important we chat okay what's it about beep beep beep

01:34:34.000 okay so then we go to starbucks no no

01:34:36.320 he's at the back then you go to starbucks and you're like where the is he

01:34:43.360 and i just that's it oh you don't show up uh depends okay it depends there's there's levels

01:34:50.960 to ghosting that's what i wanted to say like yeah let's go let's talk about okay example

01:34:57.760 wait wait wait wait wait hold on before you start what what is your general opinion on ghosting

01:35:03.600 It's a tool that if you're a man

01:35:05.740 and you're able to do it and you're able to use it

01:35:07.660 as a tool, I say use it.

01:35:09.800 Awesome. Because not all men can

01:35:11.560 ghost, by the way.

01:35:13.220 That's why I'm like, if you can ghost

01:35:15.560 but for a

01:35:17.300 legitimate reason. I don't

01:35:19.620 purposely go out of my way, but

01:35:21.180 I have accidentally ghosted

01:35:23.240 on dates. I'll give you

01:35:25.500 an example. Early ghosting

01:35:27.620 that's 100% acceptable. No man

01:35:29.440 should ever feel bad. If you take a woman

01:35:31.460 on a date

01:35:32.100 and at any point during or after she's asking for money whether it's from you or you go home

01:35:40.880 you're like oh that was a good date and then you see them post online like oh i i need money for

01:35:44.880 tires please send you know that's a red flag nope ghost there's no reason to explain why you're

01:35:51.280 leaving to a woman like that does that make sense yeah um what do you think about like a

01:35:57.760 a six-month relationship ghosting yeah i still say if it's a year and under yeah ghosting should

01:36:06.080 be like it's acceptable over a year though i i feel like you should probably move your

01:36:12.400 out first then take her out to dinner and at dinner you know pay for dinner and when you

01:36:19.280 know she's leaving you stay in the building but you walk her to the door hey you know it's not

01:36:25.120 working out i moved my out have a good day and then like so what's led to more uh windshields

01:36:31.760 being broken and cars being slashed ghosting like relationships no but which one has led to more

01:36:39.280 ghosting or or telling them why you're leaving which one's telling them why see that's why you

01:36:45.200 go negatively always i oh every time it doesn't matter like i think the last one of the last ones

01:36:53.520 i ended up in court and they wanted like spousal support i'm like what a girlfriend yeah and we

01:37:00.720 weren't even getting you know the judge threw it out but like it was ridiculous because you're like

01:37:05.080 what why are we here and obviously i got a lawyer and you know i don't i don't mess around but it's

01:37:11.060 like why are we even here how long um how long were you together the one she asked for

01:37:17.980 that was off and on so it was kind of like shot myself in the foot on that one off and on for

01:37:24.460 a couple years okay so that was all right that's so crazy but but here's the thing here's the thing

01:37:30.520 if a woman leaves never take her back right that's obvious but a lot of men will because

01:37:41.280 they're desperate or it's like oh well you know they said this and usually when a woman's coming

01:37:47.640 back nine times out of ten they're looking to come back and do some sort of revenge so it's

01:37:54.100 always better to just cut your losses what do you think sean about what he said about what he said

01:38:03.480 yeah i mean if the hose crazy i definitely say do what he said like he's talking about slash tires

01:38:09.100 and stuff you want to lay low well you can see it too well yeah um but you can see it you can see

01:38:16.660 it too in the early stages if you're paying attention because like for me here's the thing

01:38:21.400 my experience has been i guess it's different than the average but for me it's always like

01:38:26.060 they want to know oh where have you been i want to see your phone who you've been talking to i'm

01:38:30.060 like jesus christ like get off of me and it's like at times when you get when you have girlfriends

01:38:36.580 or spouses that are doing that you're like dude i might as well cheat like at least there'd be

01:38:42.080 proof so you'd be like yep i did sorry bye

01:38:48.880 yeah i think also people could you know girls could get crazy later so it's not always about

01:38:53.680 like your filter could be but i think a lot of signs show up from the jump like from the beginning

01:38:59.200 and outskirts it's not like i never met those girls pearl you know what i'm saying it's not

01:39:02.560 like all the girls i ever met been wanting to give me the box every day like no that's not true i met

01:39:07.600 girls who try to dish it out like you know uh trophies but i just learned from early like okay

01:39:14.000 you do and you live like that you're probably not a good match for me disney sold men a lie

01:39:21.200 and what i think what like myron for example i know pearl you've been on you've talked to myron

01:39:27.520 and you've been on there he his advice i guarantee us saved men guarantee it because there hasn't

01:39:36.320 been a platform there hasn't really been a platform until the last what five years for men

01:39:42.560 to go oh you know my girl's acting like this let me go watch this video and some guy will sit on

01:39:48.080 there or you know we're on here whatever and they'll say okay here's why she's acting like

01:39:54.000 that maybe it's like maybe it's you crying in front of your girl now you have to like i don't

01:39:58.960 know you gotta like go work out and man up and like prove you're not a but but there wasn't like

01:40:05.840 uh uh not a not a to-do list but like uh a google area where you could like okay my girl's acting

01:40:13.040 like this i gotta know what's going on so a lot of men grew up ignorant over the last like 20 to 30

01:40:17.440 years and uh i think you're gonna see a huge awakening in the next two maybe 18 months what

01:40:25.040 are signs early on that a girl will crash out later well how early like i meant um you said

01:40:33.200 that there's stuff that you missed if you're really paying attention uh first first few dates

01:40:38.560 are huge first few dates because a woman will i've i've learned women will use multiple masks

01:40:46.240 if the first one doesn't work for example you take a girl on a date and you stay very aloof

01:40:52.640 you don't answer a lot of questions you ask questions you like pivot right and you don't

01:40:57.120 give a lot pay attention the second date because she will put on a whole different mask to try to

01:41:02.400 see if she can either provoke you or or draw something out of you and if you it's and you

01:41:08.160 can tell who's there for like money usually in the dates right away because i pay for the dates but

01:41:13.440 but at but at the same time i'm not going to take you to like 300 but i think he said pearl

01:41:18.160 would it didn't you say brother that she was like asking to check your phone and stuff like that

01:41:22.480 didn't you say that yeah when i was not on the dates but early in relationships uh i've had

01:41:30.320 i've woken up in the middle of the night and like i try to keep my my work computers separate from

01:41:37.320 personal computers and i've woken up to like a girl used barbecue sauce on wings to try to figure

01:41:44.900 out my password on my computer and get into it in the middle of the night and i'm like yeah you gotta

01:41:50.660 go like get the hell out but like but that's what i'm saying but she but the explanation is like well

01:41:56.860 thought you were talking to someone i thought you know you're like jeez like i'm work i work

01:42:01.500 that's all i do you see pearl you see how different it is when you come and say i am talking to another

01:42:10.620 so i always say once again the especially as you get older you know women the women that try to

01:42:19.180 take away your two superpowers being able to walk away and be able to determine how

01:42:25.660 if she's your girlfriend fiance or wife as you get older women right away will try to take those

01:42:31.340 powers away from you so so what are we like you know i'm not just gonna gonna be some side girl

01:42:38.300 i need to be your girlfriend i need to be your wife and they're talking about the or they start

01:42:42.620 giving you a schedule so you any guy that's going to be with me you know they better marry me within

01:42:48.780 a year or something like that they keep trying to if they start doing that right off the bat

01:42:53.500 just ghost her guys within six months every girl every every girl i've dated within six months

01:42:58.220 tries that almost every girl so close them try it tries to push the whole you know we've been dating

01:43:04.060 we should get married and my rule is like i will try to give it a year before i'll officially date

01:43:09.180 you like officially date you and then two to three years before i'll actually propose because they

01:43:14.700 can't women especially modern women with tick tock can't keep the mask up as long as they used to be

01:43:19.420 able to they used to be able to keep it up for like two years now it's like six months a year

01:43:23.340 they'll freak out but i i think your channel pearl at least like shout outs to all the other

01:43:30.780 platforms even the one he mentioned but uh the one thing i like about your platform it kind of digs

01:43:35.500 deeper than just like you know what i'm saying surface level rp and the manuscript it was very

01:43:41.420 surface level it was like either this or that traditional or liberal and i mean just even your

01:43:46.460 whole battle with conservative you know conservative ladies like that uncovered a

01:43:50.620 whole side like here's the mass right these people are doing the responsibilities to an extent right

01:43:56.380 but it's still another game and that's what i like about yours because it dives deeper and it

01:44:01.500 actually unmasked the whole thing it's almost like the manipulated man by um what's the name esther

01:44:06.460 velar like that's how deep it goes it shows you the whole entire thing but you guys are like

01:44:12.540 morpheus outside the matrix but still playing to the prophecy i like that pearl's she's a woman

01:44:20.060 and that's i'll be honest we see a lot of men perspective nowadays it's it's not as often we

01:44:26.140 see women perspective and it's well if it is right it's like hey i'm a housewife yeah here's my tip

01:44:34.220 by the way this is what you and watch this this is what you need to do this is what you need to

01:44:38.780 do as a male who's going to be conservative for x y and c pearl is more like i don't know i'm not

01:44:44.380 giving you advice i'm just telling you what the real is and do with it as you may and i think

01:44:49.180 yeah people don't know how to respond to that you just get to a certain age you're like you can't

01:44:53.580 change anybody i'm not sure about pearly is it's pearl is is descriptive but not prescriptive

01:45:01.420 yeah there we go because here's the thing man i mean we are creatures of action okay

01:45:08.460 us red pill channels we can say oh don't get married don't have kids but they're in my lifetime

01:45:13.900 there isn't going to be a scenario where the majority of men don't get married you just have

01:45:19.100 to know what you're getting into we want to see less guys taking themselves out after divorce we

01:45:24.140 want more guys to have a plan if she leaves this whole thing where like a woman with plans a year

01:45:29.420 year or two in advance before she gets divorced i want the guys to see the signs like coach greg

01:45:34.380 adam says the sign minute she says the ministry says divorce go down to the court and file for

01:45:39.420 a return and file for custody of your kids be the first one to file for divorce uh no okay so hold

01:45:47.840 on hold on hold on hold on hold on i went through that process depends on the state for sure because

01:45:54.140 uh some i'll give you an example um i was in the military and i came back and i knew divorce was

01:46:02.640 coming right i already knew like we were separated um my attorney was like do not file first let go

01:46:09.120 ahead let her file first one it cost a bunch of money so it wasn't really worth spending the money

01:46:14.540 when we were going to file and two let's say i filed first i wasn't established and it would

01:46:22.020 hurt me in court so what we did was he she filed immediately which we knew was going to happen

01:46:26.900 and during the few months where she had 100 because it defaults when you file the defaults

01:46:32.180 custody to one parent but that custody time doesn't affect your actual custody so men if you're not

01:46:38.880 going to file first or you can't let's say it costs too much and you know she's going to file

01:46:43.220 you let her file you take those two months you focus heavily on getting your own place setting

01:46:48.860 yourself up for success. So when you walk in the courtroom, you say, well, judge, here's what I've

01:46:53.840 done. Here's what I have. I'm ready to go 50-50. I don't see a problem because what happens is it

01:47:00.200 forces the other person to pivot. Well, this is why they shouldn't have it. And then the judges

01:47:06.100 don't like that. If a guy goes into court willing to fight for his kid, even if you didn't file

01:47:11.380 first right um just the action of you going in and fighting gives you kind of like a the judge

01:47:18.900 goes okay this guy's actually willing to fight so let's hear him out not saying it's gonna work

01:47:23.620 because you should always get a lawyer but um just be careful about which state you're in

01:47:30.980 well i guess in that situation you would have wish you would have ghost that person

01:47:34.580 this is the perfect clip for the divorce documentary

01:47:40.520 marriage marriage is the one the here's the thing marriage is the the problem uh men just

01:47:48.340 get shafted it once it defaults to 50 50 custody no alimony no child support unless there's a

01:47:53.920 reason right like let's say you're a millionaire and she's not obviously they might have to do

01:47:58.080 something there but um the marriage won't come back until you see 50 50 custody and the alimony

01:48:06.260 thing solved so okay i talked to someone from europe where they actually get 50 50 custody

01:48:13.280 and he actually said that i should stop recommending it because he got 50 50 custody

01:48:20.320 and he said you just become a babysitter for the wife when she wants to hang out with her boyfriend

01:48:25.600 not if you demand 50 50 week on week off and most people don't okay well i'm just gonna i'm gonna

01:48:32.820 let me finish and then he said the woman also is constantly in the kid's ear and trying to turn the

01:48:40.440 kids against you and so they come over and they just don't listen to you because the mother is

01:48:46.440 constantly talking about you and you're not constantly talking about her and it got to the

01:48:51.440 point where he said he gave up custody he said either give me the kids or you can have them

01:48:55.820 and this dude gave up custody because he just said it was like he just wasn't gonna like be

01:49:01.320 a slave to this woman and um yeah i didn't really have any thoughts either way but i was curious

01:49:07.240 you guys's thoughts on that uh i know more situations look this is the 80 of the time

01:49:15.000 when a man can get alimony and child support he doesn't file for it it's the same thing with

01:49:21.760 saying bad things about your child's mother to your children like there are plenty of guys who

01:49:27.420 should just tear their the ex-wife to shreds in front of other children but they just don't do it

01:49:32.300 but women have no qualms they have no qualms and in fact there's a social infrastructure in place

01:49:38.980 to encourage women to do it.

01:49:41.680 Pearl, Sean, what do I always say

01:49:43.920 is the female-friendly version of the story?

01:49:46.320 What is it?

01:49:47.600 Where she's the hero and the victim at the same time.

01:49:49.960 At the same time.

01:49:51.300 And they'll use any actors to play in that story,

01:49:55.880 even the kids, your family, her family, her work, everything.

01:50:00.540 It's a big movie to make her look like the victim

01:50:03.420 and you the villain.

01:50:04.540 the biggest the biggest part about that doug is the majority of people who's gonna do it with her

01:50:12.820 is men other men are gonna sell you out down the river because they're gonna fall into her

01:50:17.320 goddamn story in the narrative i think when it comes down to what you just said bro

01:50:21.580 i don't know man like what are you gonna say my my advice would be try to keep one hand on the

01:50:29.120 wheel and the reason why look at elon musk as an example um i'm not i'm obviously it's the far end

01:50:36.440 example but like culture shifted so so much that men have to look at their children as gold gold

01:50:43.160 children are investment those men having children today their children will own the future in 80

01:50:49.020 years and that's how they have to look at it because i'm black i think a little bit differently

01:50:55.580 on that let's go i think i think like oh i was telling somebody yesterday the order is no longer

01:51:04.620 man women kids or god excuse me god man women and kids and stuff like that right the order is kids

01:51:13.820 dogs cats women god and men women first it's women first oh you know no no you know women

01:51:24.140 love some dogs and some cats and some kids yeah but don't take care of them yeah that's what i'm

01:51:29.900 saying because remember sean okay so let's put women almost 75 percent of of of abuse towards

01:51:36.460 children and the elderly yeah i forgot i forgot women can take out kids too so all right women

01:51:43.260 first dogs cats kids god man yeah and so and rocks and stones you got to put that in there

01:51:51.180 because you know i would be curious if pearl so net net net your powerful like walk away

01:52:00.540 like i know it sounds bad but kids can be exiled too like i i know it sounds crazy you say oh i

01:52:06.140 can't do that see this is where they get you this is where all the control comes from you you have

01:52:11.020 no ability to walk away i take your kids from you i take your soul from you so you have to be able

01:52:17.660 to elon musk even elon musk himself he has the kid that transitioned he just washed his hands

01:52:23.420 there's nothing he can freaking do he sold all his worldly possessions to not be the evil capitalist

01:52:29.100 and guess what he she it whatever they want to be called that thing said hey look i still don't like

01:52:36.540 you and so at the end of the day the best thing you can do as a man is walk away look at your

01:52:41.180 pops your pops had a second family stop acting crazy he had a whole family on the side so at

01:52:47.180 the end of the day you can have many kids you have the ability to do that so just walk away and wash

01:52:52.460 your hands sometimes here's the thing it's still so bad that like um you know what's one of the

01:52:58.220 tropes i can't stand that still goes on in popular media is it is is the forrest gump war from star

01:53:06.700 trek thing where where um a woman has a man's child doesn't tell him about it tells him about

01:53:13.660 it seven eight years later and then society is going to critique how he is a father and tell him

01:53:19.580 he needs to be a father and how to do it when the woman kept the kid from him for seven to eight

01:53:24.700 years facts why is that still a trope why does that still happen on sitcoms and comic books on

01:53:32.140 movies it's it's still the same and we still actually i got one better for you because it's

01:53:37.260 evolved from that trope into a new trend where women are just killing their own kids and that's

01:53:42.620 what i was gonna ask pearl if she was gonna do a video on that because like that's happening

01:53:47.180 almost a weekly basis we're getting new articles of like women just unaliving their kid because

01:53:53.260 the dad finally got 50 custody and it's just like it blows my mind it's just hard to wrap my head

01:54:00.060 around it yeah like the woman that put her kid in a dumpster and then went and did a play

01:54:07.420 she literally killed her kid and then went and performed in a school play or the one that like

01:54:12.140 sent her husband to the store killed her two kids and then like tried to off herself and failed

01:54:16.620 it's like it's it's getting it's it's becoming a trend because it's happening so much wait pearl

01:54:24.140 doesn't in most of households in america they have fathers majority i didn't okay but but

01:54:32.380 don't think you don't think you lost because of that what i'm trying to what i'm trying to point

01:54:36.620 at us if right now in society we say men are in a weak position right and we often say that you

01:54:43.260 got to realize whether your father was at home or not the guys who had a father at home mostly like

01:54:48.620 their mom was still in chief and commander yeah they were still controlling the household like

01:54:53.980 that is literally almost a marriage like a woman usually controls the power inside the household

01:54:59.980 she is the one in charge the commander in chief so when you're like oh i didn't have my father

01:55:04.540 it's like bro you would have saw your father get cut to shreds death by a thousand concessions

01:55:09.740 yeah you would be hailing that's what i saw with my dad so exactly all dads are like that so what

01:55:16.300 is your what example is he leading so in the world we have mostly simpson white knights because they

01:55:22.300 learned from their dads to be compromised his dad got on his knees and begged the woman so he could

01:55:29.100 pay for and die for her like what kind of is that that's another thing women women are mad right

01:55:34.780 right now women are mad that men aren't like chasing them but men realize like we're not

01:55:39.900 gonna pay your bills we're not chasing you to pay your bill even if we catch you i'm you're gonna

01:55:45.500 good luck getting money out of me good luck i'm a cheap bastard i don't think they're really mad

01:55:51.980 neither they're just chatting they're always just propagandizing the airways they're not really mad

01:55:56.700 they really don't care they're propagandizing everything bro they don't care about life's

01:56:00.780 getting more expensive though no they don't care they don't care about young boys being homeless

01:56:05.980 and their children they don't care period i'm y'all guys keep thinking they really care about you they

01:56:11.980 do not in any ways they'll use the state in order to do a supplement against you like they really

01:56:18.620 don't think that's coming to an end within 18 months i guarantee you that's coming in good luck

01:56:23.660 i'm gonna say one thing about the father and the mother thing so uh i was not gonna pearl

01:56:28.860 about this earlier what you see in society is women have inflicted emotional mental monetary

01:56:37.020 trauma on men children and society right and women think that they can control the outcomes

01:56:45.660 it's like if i were to punch sean in the face i'd never do it because he

01:56:49.260 my boy but say sean i hit you in the face and say sean don't get mad and don't hit me back

01:56:55.840 right if most households like women not literally but are are figuratively

01:57:04.980 punching their husbands in the face hitting them multiple times and the husband loves the wife so

01:57:12.720 much that he doesn't do anything back she gets to control the outcomes of inflicting trauma

01:57:19.120 upon her husband and the children that's what a lot of children see they see their dad just getting

01:57:24.800 abused and he loves her so much that he doesn't do anything about it that's what i'm saying there

01:57:33.480 needs to be like in school like at a young age there needs to be training for women and men

01:57:40.100 separately just that's the only way we're going to bring it back because it took 30 years for them

01:57:44.940 to break the culture down it's going to take years to bring it back it's just not going to come back

01:57:51.100 sorry yeah about the thing that's going to say coming back no man like i think that a low point

01:57:57.920 could be reached where women realize you know i'm not it's trying to be a man stuff isn't for me

01:58:03.580 but that's going to be long and long after i'm dead here's the thing the low point will be when

01:58:08.860 enough men say you know what

01:58:10.840 fuck this we're changing the law

01:58:12.760 and they start repealing stuff

01:58:14.900 yeah but that legislation

01:58:16.620 that's 20-30 years but still

01:58:18.720 that's still within our lifetime

01:58:20.900 I don't know

01:58:22.480 maybe in 10 or 20 years

01:58:23.840 those guys won't even be saying they guys

01:58:26.120 they'll be wearing dresses

01:58:27.060 one of us might have kicked it by then you never know

01:58:30.540 and here's the thing

01:58:31.400 when you started having Muslim feminists

01:58:34.420 we're cooked dude

01:58:35.920 yeah alright guys

01:58:38.180 um thanks for calling this is a great show so i appreciate the callers you guys are great awesome

01:58:45.140 any final thoughts on ghosting doug mpa yeah if you're in a you have to earn the ability to

01:58:51.220 ghost women guys ghost them and yes you should think about all the times that you you got ghosted

01:58:55.940 when you were young and channel that spite channel that rage into ghosting women yeah for me six

01:59:03.540 months um personally i would say my final thought is i think six months it's a little diabolical

01:59:09.140 um up to a year i could okay fine up to a year but that to me anyways thanks for coming on doug

01:59:16.020 mpa all right guys um i really appreciate you watching and um if you liked the show let me know

01:59:24.180 in the comments i thought this was it's low viewership today but it was kind of fun okay

01:59:30.100 i'll tell you my um my gym membership that i'm very excited about so as you know i'm having to

01:59:35.300 switch gyms because i am my basketball court so i've been testing a few and one of them

01:59:44.340 this guy there's like a trainer gym and the gym it's like personal trainers share the stream so

01:59:50.100 you only get access to if you're like booking stuff with the personal trainers and essentially

01:59:55.460 the way this guy does his business um he doesn't have to pay for a gym so he offers like group

02:00:01.620 classes and it's like i don't know five like classes i think you get to pick from a day and

02:00:09.920 i pick the 7 a.m one and no one else shows up to that except me so i essentially get personal

02:00:16.240 training four days a week um for 400 bucks a month which is pretty cheap for personal training

02:00:24.120 like gym membership and the personal trail 400 bucks a month included

02:00:28.840 and they give you his wife does the nutrition so you can actually get um and you get your vo2 like

02:00:37.660 max done i don't even know what that means i haven't done it yet but i'm going to gotta head

02:00:44.920 out but thanks yeah personal training is code for something no it's not okay

02:00:51.180 look at his wife does the nutrition his wife's there do you know what i mean it's not okay

02:00:57.620 stop it all right anyways anyways you know the amount of personal training jokes i've done on

02:01:03.540 this channel i deserve that so whatever anyways guys um like the video and subscribe to the

02:01:08.320 channel um you know let me know what you think of the comments and i'll see you next time

Pearl - March 13, 2026

Millennials And Gen Z Are the Generation of Ghosting

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