In this episode, I talk about my new mixtape "You're Forced" and a new song I got produced last year, "Take Me Back To 1992" and more. I also talk about a new project I'm working on that I'm trying to figure out how to edit.
00:34:56.400My social life is also lacking, she confessed.
00:34:59.020Now it's usually based around my children and my friends
00:35:02.320who have children doing things together with our children.
00:35:05.000While I understand that some people love this sort of thing,
00:35:07.880I don't. Even if it was just the odd occasion, it would be great to do some social activities
00:35:12.880with my friends without my kids, without their kids, without talking about kids like what it
00:35:17.960used to be like. After discussing a few more of her experiences, she concluded that if she knew
00:35:24.760what life would be like after having children, she never would have had them. Yet despite the
00:35:29.040belief that children are often glorified as the greatest thing a person can do, this mom has
00:35:35.560started a conversation that I'm sure many parents wanted to have okay women who regret having kids
00:35:45.840we have a video here tell me if the audio is okay I consider myself someone that stands 10
00:35:54.600does down on the fact that I regret motherhood it's like I don't like regret my daughter I
00:35:59.120regret the role I think people are rubbed the wrong way about it because most moms feel that
00:36:03.380And you're not allowed to say it. There is an anxiety that I have developed having a child that never lived in me before at all. The fear of even when she's not with me and I don't have to be selfless. I'm still thinking about is somebody going to hurt her? Is an earthquake going to happen? A mother is like who I am like at my core. Because of that it consumes a lot of my thoughts and I hate that.
00:36:27.820i need space from my child in order to be a good parent i can play as much as a 34 year old woman
00:36:33.900can play yeah but like feeling guilty about that too like i chose to be a mother you're supposed
00:36:38.620to love every part one day she's not gonna want to play she's not gonna want to play you're gonna
00:36:41.660wish she's like no i won't i'm going to say something that will make some people upset
00:36:46.220i think we need to normalize regretting yeah so in all honesty what happens these mothers resent
00:36:53.980their children not i do not think i think there's a lot of women that shouldn't have kids
00:37:03.020and i used to think they wouldn't be fulfilled or whatever they weren't going to be fulfilled anyway
00:37:09.980do you know what i mean like they weren't yeah okay having your children i'm a therapist and
00:37:16.780I work with kids teens young adults as well as parents and there are so many parents who have
00:37:24.380been vulnerable enough with me in their therapy sessions to admit that they regret having their
00:37:30.940children now before you shame those parents these are really really good parents now these aren't
00:37:36.540all parents that I work with it's just a emotion that does come up in therapy that I don't think
00:37:42.860really gets talked about because if they were to say some of these words out loud or to other people
00:37:49.420they would get shamed for it and don't get me wrong these are amazing parents they're great
00:37:54.380parents they love their children they would do anything for their children they would never give
00:37:59.820their children up but it's just talking about the emotion of regretting having them i would much
00:38:06.780rather regret not having children than regret having children later in life a book that seriously
00:38:12.700shifted my perspective on this is called regretting motherhood i listened to it on audible and as a
00:38:21.340intentional non-parent i think it's really great that this conversation is being had prior to
00:38:28.060having children everybody featured in that book had already had children while the sample of the
00:38:34.300women in this book is very culturally limited in my opinion for me it would still be a soft
00:38:41.340recommendation especially for anyone who is coming from a culture where motherhood is just
00:38:47.260absolutely expected of you the women featured in this book definitely were and reading this book
00:38:52.780you realize that the amount of women who feel this way but cannot outwardly admit it to anyone
00:39:02.860accept to do so anonymously is massive additionally kids understand exactly how you feel and if you
00:39:12.700regret them children are by and large intuitive when it comes to what do you guys think should
00:39:21.020women that don't have children have them anyway put it in the chat i'm gonna do a call-in
00:39:26.780by god willing god help me i'm doing a call-in
00:39:32.300the feelings of their parents we by and large underestimate kids and underestimate that specific
00:39:41.540hurt not everyone's gonna admit to this but i hate being a mom okay so while i may not feel
00:39:49.900the same way that this mom does about motherhood i can empathize with how she's feeling i feel like
00:39:55.320there are a lot of reasons why a lot of women hate motherhood. And a lot will not admit it because
00:40:00.480everyone's in a competition to have the most perfect, ideal, great, wonderful life and be the
00:40:06.800perfect mom. I think it's partly the expectations that we as a society put on women. It's in general,
00:40:13.160but then when women become mothers, there are these expectations that are put on us as mothers
00:40:18.980that fathers don't have. Almost every mom I know would rather be a dad. No one expects dads to be
00:40:25.160up all night doing the diaper changes or handling any tantrums or doing the appointments for the
00:40:31.160doctors or the school stuff or any of it but dad simply just exists in the same house as his kids
00:40:36.840he's given the award for the best dad of the fucking century it's the moms who have to pick
00:40:40.600up all the slack who are expected to moms are never expected to take a break never expected
00:40:45.480to take a sick day moms are not allowed to have a man cold and get taken care of having all this
00:40:49.800really moms aren't allowed to take a sick day we have a whole mother's day dedicated to mothers
00:40:58.080no one cares about father's day nobody put on you and people you're not expecting oh i'm actually
00:41:04.120going to read the chat on the website fazelle says single moms treat their kids like trophies
00:41:09.060only polished for display and support but never truly value them um doug uh anna well who's where
00:41:16.140is this article from doug could you tell her um he can find it for you who is the first person to
00:41:22.440call doug says who is the first person to call a young girl too fat too thin too dark too light
00:41:27.880dressed like a slut you look like your deadbeat dad her mother mothers create all of the insecurities
00:41:33.840in their daughters to ask for help and when you do ask for help you're like oh well you shouldn't
00:41:39.220have been a mother if you need help whatever other snarky shitty comment people make about
00:41:43.420moms wanting to take a big when i go on a vacation by myself every year and like clockwork
00:41:51.500she goes on a vacation by herself every year god these women are so selfish you don't want to bring
00:41:57.740your husband or maybe she doesn't have one we'll see people if i post it to my facebook people are
00:42:04.300like oh no oh no she where are your kids they have a father he knows their allergies he ain't
00:42:10.860go and call and bother me while i'm on my vacation most women don't have she's for the streets a
00:42:16.140village it's like the village ups and runs away when you have a baby i've seen this happen to
00:42:20.940almost every mom i know i think about all the people i know like close to me that are mothers
00:42:26.060i'm one of the only ones that has a support system that i can depend on i'm one of the only
00:42:30.380ones that gets to take breaks i feel extremely fortunate but that should be a norm that shouldn't
00:42:34.780be the exception to the rule you've got a lot of burnt out mothers who are at the end of their
00:42:39.260mental ropes no room to breathe no room to regroup and recharge we end up with resentful hurt bitter
00:42:49.500moms who hate motherhood who don't think they should have been mothers it's not just because
00:42:53.580of a personal issue with them this is a much bigger issue in a much bigger picture i really
00:42:59.820think we as a society need to address that how mothers have such little help mothers have to
00:43:04.540suffer in silence because if they admit to feeling defeated you get this shitty pushback oh you're
00:43:09.420a horrible mother what if your kids see this if we were supporting mothers like we should
00:43:13.500maybe they wouldn't come online so upset maybe they wouldn't be so burnt out and touched out
00:43:17.980these are women begging for help and we need to help them if any of you had a mother that
00:43:22.380regretted they had you you should call in later are you actually curious why i don't like motherhood
00:43:28.140i'd love to tell you because society thinks that maternity leave is a vacation because people think
00:43:34.300that stay-at-home moms don't work because child care is astronomically high because we don't
00:43:39.900think that moms work but we expect families to pay for the child care for their children as if
00:43:45.500it's actually work that men actually make more when they become fathers and women make less
00:43:50.620if they even stay in the workforce that moms like you have a different experience of motherhood so
00:43:57.020think that they can go judge other moms for having a different experience of motherhood
00:44:01.580because i'm expected to disappear because i'm a mom now and not have any dreams and i'm judged
00:44:07.580for having dreams when i finally realize i'm a human and i'm still allowed to have them
00:44:12.700and i think that's it for now but please get the off my page okay so they're openly talking about
00:44:20.060how they regret having children the audacity of these women okay women say it's crazy that women
00:44:27.580go on the internet and admit they regret having kids i think it is so weird and kind of not cool
00:44:35.100to get on the internet and talk about how you regret your decision to have kids in the name of
00:44:39.980like informing the masses or making sure people know to really think about it before they have
00:44:44.780kids like you're not doing it for that reason you just want to say that it's so bubbling up inside
00:44:50.780you that you regret having children that you just you have to spit that out i guess but is the
00:44:55.500internet really the place to do that and before people flip out yes there is sometimes a toxic
00:45:01.020positivity stance on pretty much anything but about having kids like oh it's magical everything's
00:45:05.820amazing it's much more difficult than it seems and i don't think it's wrong to talk about things
00:45:10.540that are more difficult than people expect but here's a scenario for you right you're scrolling
00:45:15.420on tick tock boom your boyfriend's face pops up you think oh what does he have to say and he says
00:45:20.540Oh, you know what? I love my girlfriend, right? I love her. She's the most amazing. I would only
00:45:27.040ever want to be with her. Being in a relationship with her is just, oh, I would do it a thousand
00:45:31.140times over again. But you know what? I miss being single. I miss when I had all the freedom in the
00:45:36.560world to do everything that I wanted. I didn't have to pick up the phone and call her. I didn't
00:45:39.360have to pick up the phone and text her. Like being in a relationship is much harder than people give
00:45:43.620it credit for. All my dreams are kind of crushed because I wanted to do all of these things are
00:45:47.740not really possible whenever you're in a long-term relationship. And then I'm gonna have to get
00:45:51.080married. I'm gonna be tied down with this person forever. I'm never gonna go on another first date
00:45:56.580again. And now that I have my girlfriend and I love her, yeah, I am probably gonna marry her and
00:46:01.600I'll be happy in some ways. But here's a hot take for you. Guys, it's not worth it. Are you gonna
00:46:06.880come across that video and think, oh, he's just venting some pretty normal concerns? And he said
00:46:11.700he loved me like a bunch of times. So that's what I'm gonna take away from it. My boyfriend loves me
00:46:15.980and he just needed to vent that's okay i highly doubt that would be your response you would think
00:46:20.540huh these are lots of really um concerning issues you're bringing up you clearly don't want to be in
00:46:25.500a relationship and why are you posting it on the internet for everybody to see so just because
00:46:30.060your kid's a baby or they're like young and they don't have a tick tock you can get on the internet
00:46:34.700and talk like that i don't know i i get that people need to vent but like that's a thing you
00:46:39.580talk to your therapist about you have postpartum depression there are some things in your life that
00:46:44.140need rearranging any number of things could help that feeling you're having and i'm not saying you
00:46:48.460shouldn't talk to young people about like what's hard about being a parent but there's a big viral
00:46:52.860video going around of a woman talking about how she's super disappointed with being a parent while
00:46:57.500holding her baby by the way and i feel so deeply for that mom because i can tell like she's really
00:47:02.460really struggling and she's not the only one i've seen this from this is like a common thing across
00:47:07.260the internet which leads me to say i don't actually agree that the overall theme about
00:47:12.140parenting is now toxically positive i actually think the opposite every time i ever tell people
00:47:17.340anything about something my kid's doing like oh she's about to walk they're like oh just wait till
00:47:20.620she walks your life's gonna be over they always have a just wait that's a negative thing or like
00:47:24.620wait till she's a teenager and she never shuts up and blah blah mostly i get negativity but
00:47:29.100i digress but yes just like every single thing in life that is worth doing being a parent takes work
00:47:36.060it's tough it has its good moments and its bad moments and we should all feel open to sharing
00:47:40.220what those things are but to say i regret having my children that's weird dude i got on lexapro
00:47:46.940whenever i had the baby working wonders and for everyone who's on the fence about having kids not
00:47:51.660people who've said i don't want kids i'm not trying to convince anybody who doesn't want
00:47:55.020children to have them but if you're on the fence and all you see are these negative things i'm here
00:47:59.580to say that continue to critically think about whether you want kids or not yes you should be
00:48:04.700sure that this is the right time this is the right partner that you really do in fact want kids just
00:48:09.020know that everybody has different experiences just because somebody has a good or a bad
00:48:12.700experience doesn't mean that you're gonna have that exact same thing happen to you and it is worth it
00:48:21.740yeah so women have the audacity to go online and complain that they don't like their children
00:48:28.380i can't even believe this stuff that woman was completely right she was right
00:48:32.460no i am okay so now we're gonna do another woman here we go not giving you a safe place to talk
00:48:39.840about how you don't want to be a mother and how that's the biggest regret that you've ever had
00:48:43.120in your life unpopular opinion but i don't believe everything deserves a safe place i don't know
00:48:48.540oh that was funny i like her she says not everything deserves a safe place oh that's
00:48:59.260hilarious i really don't care because to get online like i can get you're having these
00:49:05.040conversations like person to person like y'all don't do like on like your mom on the phone with
00:49:10.540your auntie being messy conversations no more like y'all instantly bring shit to tiktok and my heart
00:49:15.960goes out to those kids when they get older because as much as y'all think y'all hide the way
00:49:20.220y'all actually feel them kids feel how much you don't want to be a mother i don't care what y'all
00:49:25.500say that energy of regret that you have is definitely transferring to your kids and guess
00:49:30.160how i know it is because y'all are making the videos with the baby in y'all hand what the fuck
00:49:35.040oh she's so funny i will never make it a safe place online for you to come and talk about how
00:49:46.780much you hate motherhood when in my opinion there's lots of ways to terminate and avoid
00:49:54.140so all of this i regret being a mother talk please keep it in the group chat
00:50:01.100yeah she's right she's funny i liked her okay and then we have a reddit story of a woman who
00:50:08.540regrets having kids but before we get to that we are going to talk about the people that signed up
00:50:16.940for the membership today um i wanted to say thank you guys you guys have no obligation to support
00:50:24.460me i know when i watch youtube the odds of me going to an outside app and like the odds of me
00:50:31.740going to some youtuber and thinking wow they demonetized her let me just buy this app so i
00:50:37.900can watch so i can read reader chat like so the fact that we get so many signups every week it
00:50:45.980actually amazes me that you guys do that so i want to say thank you to evan to marquise um
00:50:54.140also want to say thank you let me read the ones from the last few days
00:50:58.060um chanel chanel i think um mike thank you so much danny thank you um pasquale thank you cory
00:51:07.180thank you calvin thank you very much alyssa we got a female fan um benjamin thank you um kelly
00:51:15.020thank you david thank you so much um man siege thank you david again thank you steven thank you
00:51:23.420so much um chris thank you baron thank you sarah thank you um tom thank you michael thank you jones
00:51:34.780thank you tim thank you um thank you guys you know if we get enough we could maybe do events
00:51:40.700at some point i would really love to do like a live podcast event where instead of callers you
00:51:45.980can take like giving your personal experience from the audience um i have to get enough people
00:51:52.060on the app first but i'd like to like reinvest and make this thing you know bigger um
00:52:01.660yeah so i just wanted to say thank you let me keep going down all right so a reddit story of
00:52:10.700a girl having kids. I regret having kids. I'm 35 female and I regret my decision to ever have
00:52:17.740children. I'm constantly burnt out and touched out and exhausted being the only one doing the
00:52:24.300caretaking. I love them and make sure that they know it but this is not a life I will never choose
00:52:30.360to live for myself again. How do other single parents in relationships make it happen? I feel
00:52:36.800like I'm going to explode either from depression, exhaustion, or rage. My family's help is minimal,
00:52:43.580but I'm grateful for what they do give. I haven't had a child-free night since Christmas Eve 2020,
00:52:50.440and before that, March of 2018. I'm so angry inside, every time I have to take on one more
00:52:57.440burden myself. I want to run away some days, but I would never inflict that trauma on my children.
00:53:05.080My mom left me and I would never hurt my kids like that.
00:53:08.900I'm not some checked out parent either.
01:23:21.060And this was with one of my other younger brothers who I was really close with because he was the one next to me, below me.
01:23:33.760Um, and, and we were, we were, we were like best friends and that kind of got destroyed when she started telling both my brothers that I was the abuser, even though I'm the one that has the police report that says that I was the victim of domestic violence.
01:35:59.040Okay. Thank you so much. Eric, you're still on mute. Are you there? Because you were in the Zoom chat just sitting there. How many other people are on the line, Doug? There's Gio and Dana. You said Gio and Dana? Yeah. Okay. So I think we'll do those three and that'll be all the callers we take. Okay.
01:36:26.140Oh, okay. Okay. So Gio, get off mute. What do you think about the topic? And then we'll do Dan after that.
01:37:16.060So I know it's kind of like not directly answering the topics question, but we're still now, seven years later, we're at the point where she's still kind of with that firm no.
01:37:30.140and um recently last week i just kind of found out that uh she was texting or like sexting
01:37:38.440another guy and like uh basically it was her ex and she's been having like um many affairs like
01:37:45.660outside of her relationship whenever we would have breakups so she wouldn't count it as cheating i
01:37:51.960guess. But anyways, and so then that kind of made me think, well, the way I kind of perceive things
01:38:01.060is I think women either, if they do get married and have kids with specific husbands or like their
01:38:09.480husband, and then maybe later on regret it, it's because they regret it because they didn't have
01:38:14.980it with the guy they wanted to. And I think that's going to be a more common trend.
01:38:21.960So similar to, like, women like to show off for their weddings and also show off their kids, but I think because of social media, women can compare themselves to other women and them having their kids.
01:38:35.220I think maybe that's a possibility where women can often maybe have not necessarily regrets of having, like, a kid, but maybe that kid with a specific person, and maybe they saw themselves having it with another kid.
01:38:51.620So I don't know, I just think like specifically, like I think it's probably not as common now,
01:39:01.860but I think because I think from the ages of like 27 to like, or 20, like 28, 27 to like 38,
01:39:11.860since that, since when I was in, since I was in college, that was like 13, 16, that's when like
01:39:17.300instagram kind of blew up and i i could see that there is a lot of like friction or there's a lot
01:39:24.760of restrictions with like how women like they're a lot more selective with who they picked to date
01:39:30.060and that would be like prime dating time for any any guy so i think that's why we're at this point
01:39:37.940now 10 years later where um even like now women don't necessarily want to have kids still or it's
01:39:44.680um they're having less kids or they're pulling off later on uh because they're um
01:39:51.320is someone who needs to mute their mic doug do you hear that
01:39:55.440i think i think that's your mic gia is it i don't think is it it's popping okay yeah okay sorry
01:40:05.920keep going um so all right i just um i think
01:40:14.960i think it's gonna happen more uh probably like in the next five years or 10 years as soon as
01:40:21.040women do start having kids and maybe they keep on comparing themselves like on instagram and
01:40:26.480they're probably going to regret not necessarily having that kid but with the person that they
01:40:32.400didn't end up having it or wanting to have it with who was your girlfriend sexting was it anyone you
01:40:38.480knew or someone from her past yeah it was so i think it was like her like second boyfriend in
01:40:45.120like high school and we met uh um i'm i met her like towards the end of of my college so like
01:40:52.560we're four years apart she's she's 28 i'm 32 or she's 29 sorry uh and um and she was so the first
01:41:03.600time she cheated was like uh not when we first dated but the first time she moved in and she
01:41:12.080moved in with me and like we moved um four hours away from wherever her hometown is and uh the
01:41:18.960the first time that she went over, um, that's when she, or she went to go visit her family.
01:41:23.640That's when she like ended up cheating. And then I didn't find out until like a year and a half
01:41:28.900later because we're having like, um, we're like playing like a, like a drunk game. And I kind of
01:41:35.580like caught her slipping up on a couple of lies and then things that didn't really add up. And
01:41:40.300that's when I kind of like uncovered it. Um, and then I ended up realizing it a couple of times
01:41:47.300later that she did have affairs whenever we did have breakups and that came through just
01:41:52.940like me kind of like not interrogating her, but like where her story didn't really add
01:42:00.780up in like her having interactions with him and whatnot.
01:42:04.520And then now just recently I just found out that she did it again.
01:42:10.300So we're definitely going to get a divorce.
01:48:53.480You let the government take custody of the whole package?
01:48:57.320Yeah, because I live in Quebec, and sometimes it can happen if, like, both parents are, like, took to be unfit to take the child or stuff like that.