Pearl - Modern Women and STD's： The HI-V and the Herp (Call-in Show)

00:00:00.000 Clip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question.

00:00:04.900 Do we need men?

00:00:07.320 Most answered very quickly, no.

00:00:10.100 Because men are useless.

00:00:13.040 This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.

00:00:15.820 Most young men are single.

00:00:17.500 Most young women are not.

00:00:18.820 Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.

00:00:23.520 It's a different world now.

00:00:24.540 Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.

00:00:26.560 Nobody needs men.

00:00:27.600 The future is female.

00:00:30.840 Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.

00:00:37.380 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.

00:00:40.660 You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.

00:00:43.360 This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.

00:00:46.920 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.

00:00:51.000 Marriage is a bond, and it's a sacred bond.

00:00:53.620 It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.

00:00:56.600 Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.

00:01:00.000 Hannah Pearl Davis, or just pearly things.

00:01:05.240 One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.

00:01:08.920 She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.

00:01:11.780 Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.

00:01:16.940 Gee, what could go wrong there?

00:01:19.000 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.

00:01:22.680 Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.

00:01:25.560 Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.

00:01:28.180 I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.

00:01:33.220 Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.

00:01:36.420 You need no evidence.

00:01:37.560 When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for.

00:01:41.260 And you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.

00:01:44.600 I interviewed them on the other side.

00:01:47.140 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.

00:01:49.420 How much did you spend trying to get him back?

00:01:51.560 The legal fees alone was about $200,000.

00:01:53.920 Before you know it, you're homeless. You're literally just thrown out onto the street.

00:01:57.120 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.

00:01:59.680 Wives are taught to leave their husbands, and then daughters grow up without their fathers.

00:02:03.980 Family is the foundation of society.

00:02:05.700 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.

00:02:08.860 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.

00:02:13.160 Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.

00:02:15.140 We tell women to date as many guys as possible.

00:02:16.960 We tell them to put off family into marriage.

00:02:18.720 You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.

00:02:21.480 You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.

00:02:25.620 oh freeze your eggs have an abortion what you're evil i don't think there's anything else in life

00:02:30.260 that we actually ever go into preparing to fail like if you have the mentality of this is going

00:02:34.900 to go wrong and be pessimistic naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail

00:02:39.120 anyway it's self-sabotage that's the thing like women are so willing to leave marriages because

00:02:43.420 they're not happy this is not about happiness the most important thing is the children and the

00:02:48.720 problem is we have a modern society where it's me me me my feelings leave when i feel like it

00:02:54.180 instead of doing what's best for the kids.

00:02:57.020 This myth that we live in an age of male privilege,

00:02:59.760 where's my male privilege?

00:03:00.780 They think, well, men have all the rights.

00:03:02.320 They have all the power.

00:03:03.560 Privilege, patriarchal system that we have.

00:03:05.880 Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?

00:03:08.480 I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.

00:03:11.740 Men are alone in this situation.

00:03:13.640 Men are homeless.

00:03:14.600 Men are thinking about eating guns.

00:03:16.360 I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide,

00:03:18.980 and they didn't do anything wrong.

00:03:20.680 How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?

00:03:26.260 The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.

00:03:30.160 Women are helplessly dependent upon men.

00:03:32.760 The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose to alcohol,

00:03:36.740 three times higher among men than among women.

00:03:39.820 Culture is telling men, you are no good.

00:03:41.660 You've got to get your act together.

00:03:42.880 I think men have failed themselves.

00:03:44.500 What kind of a man are you?

00:03:45.740 What kind of a woman are you going to attract?

00:03:47.700 If men are in trouble, so are women.

00:03:50.140 everybody knows this is a huge problem but nobody wants to admit it every single woman at the table

00:03:55.520 said they wanted a man 500k 500k 300k 200k am i crazy everything is really set up against you

00:04:00.880 to fail as a man if men make less than women women don't want to marry them so you know who

00:04:05.920 wants more economically and emotionally viable men women i don't want to be an independent woman

00:04:12.340 anymore i don't want to be a strong independent woman i'm over it when is it going to be my turn

00:04:17.580 Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?

00:04:19.420 I can't keep having these same conversations.

00:04:22.200 The only simp here is you, Pearl. You simp for men.

00:04:24.060 No, I think you simp for women.

00:04:25.500 She's a provocateur. She says stupid stuff.

00:04:27.660 But Pearl is right about this.

00:04:28.920 It's already happening. It's just not out in the open yet.

00:04:31.520 Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairytale ending

00:04:34.120 because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.

00:04:37.160 The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.

00:04:41.420 We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.

00:04:45.480 Civilization will crumble.

00:04:46.800 The American story does not end well.

00:04:49.640 This is an existential crisis failing young men.

00:04:58.000 What is up, guys?

00:05:00.320 Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily.

00:05:02.980 I'm your host, Pearl, and this show I give my thoughts after interviewing a thousand

00:05:07.140 women and the conclusions that I came to.

00:05:10.040 But before we get started, I attempted to make a documentary called What's in it for

00:05:14.500 men the whole premise of the documentary is that society nags men's behavior they just nag they say

00:05:21.500 men why are you dropping out of the workforce men why why aren't you marrying these hoes men men nag

00:05:28.580 now aren't you doing more jobs aren't you working hard or nag and I just kept asking the question

00:05:33.480 well what do men get out of that what do they get out what what does he get

00:05:39.200 and anyways i tried to i really tried to put together this documentary but i i faced some

00:05:46.740 challenges and one being they demonetized me kicked me off a million platforms so now i'm

00:05:53.040 raising money i'm doing it the old-fashioned way and it's pretty exciting because um we just got

00:05:59.420 to um 32 000 i'm gonna log in in a second i'll show you guys 32 000 for the gofundme

00:06:09.180 oh my gosh it's gonna verify you're just gonna have to take my word

00:06:14.280 i hate these two-step i i guess it's for the best but all right so i wanted to get a beer

00:06:21.820 before the show today i was really close but i couldn't find one i don't drink much

00:06:26.140 mostly because i really want to get six-pack abs i just think it'd be really cool

00:06:30.780 uh but today i was like i think i need a beer for this topic because today we're talking about

00:06:37.140 herpes and hiv it's pretty gross but i do think this is an important conversation that people

00:06:45.700 aren't really having when it comes to modern dating a lot of people have stds out there

00:06:50.660 a lot and odds are there's a woman that you know that has an std probably a guy too if they're

00:06:57.940 actively dating and in the sexual marketplace a lot of people have had them so the stats i've

00:07:04.980 seen said one out of three women have gotten an std at some point but a lot of stds are curable

00:07:12.560 right so you know like from there's like gonorrhea chlamydia um these ones are curable

00:07:24.540 but the ones that really mess up your life i guess hiv kills you and herpes is pretty bad too

00:07:30.920 you can't get rid of that so yeah get your beer get your beer let me know what beer you're having

00:07:36.540 in the chat fellas all right so women have become sexually liberated and you know nothing good

00:07:42.660 really has come from it modern women honestly believe that they can have sex like men body

00:07:49.820 counts are on the rise and promiscuity is at an all-time high what comes along with women sleeping

00:07:55.600 around with a lot of men is sexually transmitted diseases. Some of these STDs are curable and a lot

00:08:01.480 are not, with the worst being HIV and herpes. Men in 2025 have to protect themselves when

00:08:08.660 sleeping with modern women. And you know what, I say the same to you ladies. There's a lot of

00:08:12.820 chads out there that look at, they don't care. I've interviewed some of these guys that have

00:08:17.800 this stuff. They just spread it. They do not care. The women don't care either. And I'm going to tell

00:08:23.920 you guys some stories. Um, many of them, yeah, we could do a show on HPV a different day. Um,

00:08:31.800 that's another common one that can give you guys, you fellas cancer. All right. So many of these

00:08:37.040 women have diseases and either don't know, don't care, or it's a combination of both. And you know,

00:08:41.900 none of these scenarios are okay. Imagine you caught something you could have get rid of from

00:08:46.700 one of these women. You know, that's what we're going to talk about in today's show,

00:08:52.640 modern women, HIV and herpes. As of 2022, there are 1.2 million people living with HIV. It is

00:09:01.260 estimated that 13% of people living with HIV don't know and haven't been tested. Women make up 45%

00:09:08.720 of new HIV infections. Men have to be careful when they are sleeping with modern women. You

00:09:14.040 can get the high five and have it for life. Now I get a lot of, when we're talking about this topic,

00:09:19.620 everyone will you know they'll put in their two cents they'll say what you should be able to tell

00:09:25.200 when a woman has this stuff i would be able to tell and men's ego sometimes gets the best of them

00:09:30.120 women's too um but i've interviewed uh personally one two digitally two people personally

00:09:41.660 uh probably five people i've never actually interviewed someone with aids

00:09:47.980 but herpes that one's more common and I'm telling you you would not be able to guess

00:09:54.160 I would never have guessed um okay so we're gonna talk about oh no and the thing was when

00:10:04.720 I interviewed these people I'm gonna I'm gonna do the two digital ones I had there was two men

00:10:10.740 right and basically they both got diagnosed with herpes now one of the men decided to do the right

00:10:18.560 thing so to speak and tell women before he slept with them that he had it and he said it killed his

00:10:25.280 dating life it killed it it was never the same he hadn't had sex in years because it was just too

00:10:31.440 stressful and whatever the other guy decided to you guessed it lie he said you know what i'm just

00:10:39.420 gonna lie and he spreads it and he does not care and he admitted this to me he said I do not care

00:10:45.320 I just whatever if they they don't even ask if they don't care I don't care and he spreads it

00:10:53.000 around I'm telling you guys these um and you could argue the guy that got it he actually got it from

00:10:59.320 a marriage one of them he was married to his wife and she brought home the gift that you know keeps

00:11:04.340 on giving and um you wouldn't really guess i wouldn't you wouldn't guess it would be these guys

00:11:12.500 now um even like talking about this stuff i still feel i know like i do a show i chose the topic but

00:11:21.840 this even makes me feel uncomfortable talking about it that's why i was looking for a beer

00:11:27.540 before this show is because i really want to stress to you guys that it's not always the men

00:11:32.760 or the women you think it is you cannot tell

00:11:39.080 the one guy he just looked like a stand-up middle-class white guy you would not guess

00:11:48.600 the other guy i think was like puerto rican middle-class sales dude i mean you could maybe say

00:11:56.360 like, okay, you couldn't know. I'm telling you. So now this is a woman that has it. And I'll talk

00:12:05.040 about some of the other people I've interviewed. No. So, okay. When I asked the guys where they

00:12:10.700 got it, the guy who got it from marriage, yeah, he was raw dog. And obviously he thought this was

00:12:15.100 his wife. Um, he was raw dog in and then boom, got herpes. Um, he said it was the third girl

00:12:22.560 he ever slept with isn't that an l oh my god what an l he said it was his wife the third woman he

00:12:28.920 ever slept with now the other guy the other guy um i interviewed he also said it was like one of

00:12:37.260 the first people he ever slept with he said he wore a condom now i don't know um it says it reduces

00:12:43.500 transmission um the puas i've interviewed about stds and these are guys that are just running

00:12:49.560 through hoes they seem to think um that that's impossible you can't get an std with a condom

00:12:56.680 outside of like chlamydia i'm just telling you what the market's telling me guys

00:13:02.600 um so the p ways are saying that guy was capping they said you know what you're not going to catch

00:13:10.040 anything if you wear a condom i've run through like a hundred hoes i've got nothing because i

00:13:14.760 I always strapped up. I don't know. I, I, you know, personally, I've never had a run-in with

00:13:24.900 this stuff. Thank God. So I can't tell you, do you know what I mean? But yeah, I know it's

00:13:34.000 uncomfortable, but this is a big part of the dating market. People are afraid of STD. Sex

00:13:38.440 is coming before relationships these days. People don't know, you know, that people want to know

00:13:43.500 what their risks are when you're doing this stuff um because otherwise you know people are going to

00:13:51.320 die alone if they're not fucking um unless you find like a you know some girl at the community

00:13:58.320 college maybe but anyways no who gave me hiv yes but like look at does this woman look like she

00:14:06.100 has HIV? I personally, I wouldn't guess. Okay, before I go on a date with a woman, I'm going to

00:14:15.040 ask for a checkup for HIV. Okay, let's run this through. Guys, it's hard enough to get laid. Now,

00:14:24.680 maybe you have enough status to demand that. But most women aren't hot enough to demand that from

00:14:31.320 the men they're having sex with and most men aren't good enough no offense fellas most men

00:14:37.100 women aren't gonna do all that for okay i do my privates look like a rothco painting jk i don't

00:14:46.280 know what that means all right so i was monogamously dating somebody just before i met my now husband

00:14:54.820 for two or three months and about a month after getting serious with them i got a really strange

00:15:03.140 viral reaction um it was like mumps pneumonia rashes all over my body it lasted for about a

00:15:10.580 month it was just very strange and no doctor could figure out what it was in hindsight i now know

00:15:16.260 that that was me being okay an hiv test and her credit score let me get this straight

00:15:21.700 if you get a 22 year old baddie in front of you do you really think that you and i'm not trying

00:15:29.360 to be pick on you i'm really not trying to pick on you but unless the guys in the chat are some

00:15:37.320 sort of celebrity or something you're not going to have the the status to really do that the girl's

00:15:43.400 just going to tell you to f off you know um yeah it's hard enough for men to get laid you're

00:15:51.500 telling me that you haven't had sex in most men haven't had sex in months and there's a 22 year

00:15:56.580 old latina batty sitting in front of you and you said you know what and she says poppy take me home

00:16:02.320 and you're gonna say no bitch i need an hiv test come on i don't believe you

00:16:11.160 oh i don't i don't i'm just being honest i'm just being honest here infected with the hiv virus

00:16:20.540 i won't settle i'm worth it well i i don't want to say it look i'm just being honest with what i

00:16:29.740 would predict how i would predict that would go but you are more than welcome to try it

00:16:36.620 i could ask why the pua guy because he works with a lot of men and as i was only dating that person

00:16:44.460 a time and as I was only dating one person at the time I know who gave it to me just by default.

00:16:52.060 When I did find out that I have HIV I did contact this person on social media to let them know

00:16:59.580 hey I think you gave me HIV if you don't know already you should probably get tested.

00:17:05.180 The response I got was a bit surprising and it suggested that they already knew

00:17:12.300 that they have HIV and didn't disclose this information to me. Luckily for me as I went

00:17:18.700 from dating this one person to meeting my husband I haven't been able to pass the virus around to

00:17:25.900 anybody and for anyone wondering my husband is negative he doesn't have HIV I did not pass it

00:17:32.140 onto him either but to answer the question yes i know who gave me hiv and it's a bit of

00:17:43.180 what an l all right let's see who's got it next how i yeah

00:17:53.580 you can't get on the audacity doug mpa can you make a note we're making updates on the pages this

00:17:58.620 week i'm signed in with the pearl daily page is all i can get what content are you not getting

00:18:05.580 tag dug mpa in the chat he'll write it down i found out that i had hiv so at this point i was

00:18:10.940 already with my ex the guy who oh you're saying oh he's still married to the girl that gave him

00:18:15.500 herpes well what's he gonna do now do you know what i mean but no he's not but you kind of

00:18:21.180 understand if he was what's he gonna do go back out there affected me for about five months the

00:18:26.540 relationship was od traumatic i knew he was like not faithful to me but i never thought that he was

00:18:33.020 like not using protection with other women at least i made myself believe that at this point

00:18:38.460 i didn't have any more like symptoms like i already went through the acute stage where i

00:18:42.540 felt like i was literally gonna however a couple of symptoms persisted even after that that were

00:18:50.300 a little bit more subtle but just as alarming the first thing that freaked me out really was

00:18:56.700 that i would have a continual yeast infection i know it's kind of gross but it's the reality of

00:19:03.420 hiv and the continual yeast infection is called thrush i'm not saying that everyone that has

00:19:08.220 thrush has hiv but thrush is part of the symptoms of having hiv and you know i'm from the hood or

00:19:14.700 whatever so there's like a little hood doctor i didn't have insurance oh i didn't have insurance

00:19:18.780 at that time and so um like anytime i needed the yeast infection like medication i would just go

00:19:26.940 to the hood doctor so something that i forgot to mention is that the acute stage is basically the

00:19:31.900 stage where you are most symptomatic but once you're done with that phase you are no longer

00:19:37.660 symptomatic in like very overt ways but you still have certain symptoms that are very subtle like

00:19:43.340 you have a lot of fatigue thrush like yeast infection like discharge the whole thing and

00:19:48.140 And the second thing that really freaked me out was the fact that it was literally painful to have intercourse.

00:19:55.440 And so at this point, I was taking clindamycin about like once every two weeks.

00:20:00.280 So I was like, you know what? I'm going to go to the doctor.

00:20:02.220 Even though I don't have insurance, I could go to the clinic and get tested and tell them what's going on since it is down there.

00:20:07.800 The day before I went, I had this sinking feeling in my spirit, like in my gut.

00:20:13.620 I knew that I was going to get bad news.

00:20:15.780 So I show up to the clinic. I get tested.

00:20:18.140 when you get tested you know you do the full panel you only get results for your hiv like rapid

00:20:23.340 results day of everything else you have to wait someone comes out and calls my number because

00:20:28.060 they can't say your name they sit me down and they just bring it to me like you tested positive for

00:20:33.980 hiv my world literally shattered into a million pieces so that is how i found out that i was hiv

00:20:41.020 positive yeah she took an l yeah glyctavius gave it to her you you just don't know you never know

00:20:51.180 who has it how i found out oh this is the same girl now she's gonna say how she found out okay

00:20:57.180 i was hiv positive part two a lot of people want to know if i confronted my ex after finding out

00:21:02.140 he gave me women lead in all stds over men by double yeah i know because we we know what's

00:21:07.340 going on here small group of men are banging a lot of the women so a few chads are spreading it

00:21:12.900 around and the women are spreading it about them both both parties are lying about it and the reason

00:21:17.660 I want to talk about this is because I want to make two things clear you don't always know who

00:21:23.260 it is and out of the people I've interviewed I also I know somebody that dated a girl and he

00:21:31.180 went on a date with her and she told him that she had the the herp you know and he ended it right

00:21:38.840 and then do you know what she did after she proceeded to lie to men about it and now she's

00:21:43.780 engaged and the guy has no idea I you know this is someone this isn't someone I know but this is

00:21:53.520 a story I heard from somebody that I know and the my my point in this is

00:22:00.180 I'm you know and from a prep we got to look at the incentives here pragmatically

00:22:07.000 there's no reason for them to be honest why on earth would they be honest

00:22:11.840 if medical records are sealed you have no way of proving it was them and this is like the

00:22:17.860 I've interviewed some not HIV but herp I've interviewed people that have it and their

00:22:23.520 thought processes they can't prove I gave it to them because most people don't get tested

00:22:29.160 for every single partner like it's like once every two years or a year is the average

00:22:34.140 um and if I tell them the truth I stopped getting sex so I'm just gonna lie

00:22:44.680 yeah

00:22:49.240 i'm not saying it's the right thing to do it's obviously the wrong thing to do

00:22:55.740 but what would be the incentive to be honest seriously seriously guys what why would they

00:23:02.620 be honest you can't always see it with the herp stuff you can't like they don't always have active

00:23:08.700 outbreak so sometimes there's no symptoms you can't tell everyone's lying hiv and the answer

00:23:15.340 is yes but not in the way that you guys might expect man was like a full-blown narcissist in

00:23:20.220 my mind on how it was a mistake when you test positive at the clinic they ask you for your

00:23:25.340 list of partners i refuse to give them his information mind you i had gotten tested the

00:23:30.780 day before i met him and i tested negative for everything they put me on birth control

00:23:34.860 they put me on antiretrovirals and they take my blood and send it out to the lab

00:23:39.100 sometimes people do have false positives meaning that they test positive for hiv but they're not

00:23:43.580 actually hiv positive i knew i wasn't one of them child did y'all see the video of my acute stage

00:23:48.380 symptoms it was not a joke so they tell me not to tell him anything until i get the confirmatory

00:23:54.140 results but i just couldn't wait the entire ride to his crib i was literally trembling

00:23:59.100 I don't really remember a guy gave it to her or her girlfriend yeah I know I know and that's how

00:24:05.240 a lot of these people feel and I'm not saying it's right but a lot of these people feel like

00:24:10.360 okay somebody lied to me and now I have it so why do I care about the next person

00:24:16.000 I'm on the edge of his bed and I look at him in the eyes and I'm like tested positive for HIV

00:24:21.620 Why was this his face? Okay. No concern, no anger, no fear. He's like, listen, I don't want to talk

00:24:28.920 about this negativity, okay? Whatever you got going on is what you got going on. Don't bring

00:24:33.440 that negativity to me. Oh my gosh, this guy that gave her HIV told her not to bring that negativity

00:24:39.220 to him when he told her. Oh, that's such a Chad move. He gave you HIV and then gaslit you and

00:24:49.500 said don't bring that negativity to me when you're pissed like i mentioned in the last video i knew

00:24:54.620 he was unfaithful to me but like i never really had proof and honestly he was a master manipulator

00:24:59.820 so it didn't make a difference whether there was proof or not because i was not ready to leave him

00:25:04.860 however i did not catch hiv because he was cheating on me child the reason that i brought that up is

00:25:10.700 because in my mind i was like yeah you know he's cheating on me but he's not out there having

00:25:16.220 unprotected he was probably um cheating with a dude to be honest that's how a lot of hiv gets

00:25:22.540 into the dating pool by the way guys the best way to get something is anal talk to a doctor about

00:25:29.820 this you know as i was prepping for this show a while back and it's because there's like blood

00:25:37.260 it's kind of gross i'm a little uncomfortable talking about this but somebody's got to do it

00:25:41.580 somebody's got to do it the sex with women because that would mean that he intentionally infected me

00:25:50.100 so it's already like mid-september he begs me to come to his place and he's slapping his cologne

00:25:55.020 putting on his shoes and I'm like oh baby where are we going and he was like nah you staying here

00:25:59.040 I'm gonna go to a party at Hofstra University mind you this man was 37 years old at the time

00:26:04.500 doesn't come back until the next day at around like 2 or 3 p.m. we argue we make up I stay the

00:26:10.380 again. And then a few days later, both of us have separate trips. Before my trip, my vagina starts

00:26:16.200 feeling weird, like a yeast infection, but times 10. So when I get back, I hit up my doctor. She

00:26:22.620 tells me to immediately come in so that I could get tested. Mind you, my doctor cannot stand my

00:26:27.260 eggs. She has been begging me since August to report him because he could reinfect me with a

00:26:33.420 totally different strain of HIV. Literally the next day I get a call back, tells me that I tested

00:26:37.820 positive for chlamydia and at that point the blindfold is lifted and my heart is literally

00:26:43.180 exposed and broken into a thousand pieces not because he cheated on me but because at that

00:26:49.420 moment i realized that he intentionally infected me with hiv and if you don't know this the number

00:26:55.260 one stds on college campuses is chlamydia i couldn't sit with that on my conscience so this

00:27:00.460 all went down around the first week of october and he was actually going to miami carnival that

00:27:04.860 weekend the hardest part of my hiv diagnosis was actually leaving the person that infected me

00:27:10.380 after a few days i finally had the courage to report him to the department of health

00:27:14.620 but honestly it didn't even matter because come to find out that wasn't even his real name

00:27:23.740 oh my god

00:27:25.180 oh my god yeah that is my yeah i did a couple polls on twitter i'm currently locked out of

00:27:36.980 my twitter right now by the way i don't know how we're still able to stream from it

00:27:40.960 but i fell for some indian hackers they got me it was really stupid so don't buy the bitcoin

00:27:47.480 they're trying to sell otherwise i'd show you the polls i did but the consensus from people

00:27:53.280 was that i remember i pulled people on if they've had an std what was it seems like chlamydia is the

00:27:59.280 most common one that's from the field even the puas um i've interviewed said that's the one you

00:28:06.500 might get even with a condom um they all seem to be very uh but then again it's like are they

00:28:15.360 going to tell me if they got they caught herpes i i don't know i don't know if people are going

00:28:21.820 to tell me that when i'm doing my research that i was and that's why i need you guys to call in

00:28:27.280 because you guys can call in anonymously and you can you could give me you know because here's the

00:28:33.360 problem with the std stats remember they always lie to make society always lies to make women

00:28:39.280 feel better so if the data is saying women are uh they might downplay it so all the stats i'm

00:28:45.760 telling you just assume it's worse i would really just um i would just assume it's worse than what

00:28:53.620 we're reading um yeah so all right each ivy positive after noticing strange spots on my

00:29:05.560 body and experiencing high fevers it all started after a night out with my friend i remember

00:29:11.720 drinking a lot way more than i should have things got so out of hand that i completely lost control

00:29:17.880 of what i was doing my friend tried to get me home safely but you said we're gonna have to use

00:29:23.120 the camera soon okay not this show this show is gonna be pretty anonymous all right he ended up

00:29:32.040 arguing and she decided to leave i stayed at the party with some other friends and eventually met

00:29:38.160 this guy he seemed fun and the okay so does this look like a guy that's gonna give you hiv

00:29:44.960 do you know what i mean this is what i'm like last thing i remember was dancing and having a

00:29:52.860 great time the next morning i woke up in his bed confused and unable to okay so he smashed

00:29:59.780 call most of the night i left before he woke up brushing it off like it was no big deal i thought

00:30:07.080 that night wouldn't have any consequences but a month later i started losing a lot of weight

00:30:13.440 i was constantly running a fever had terrible head

00:30:17.100 and noticed strange spots appearing on my skin that's when panic set in deep down i had a tear

00:30:29.100 if she had any thoughts she may have contracted early on she could have done

00:30:34.800 pep has to be within 24 hours but no later than 72 hours well you should call in and talk about

00:30:42.720 that i don't know about that drug so terrible feeling about what might have happened that night

00:30:48.080 i decided to go to the hospital and that's one comment if you want to hear part two

00:30:54.400 pretty gross that's disgusting it'd be great to talk to someone with hiv because i don't know

00:30:59.280 anybody with that um all right we got another one

00:31:09.200 sunday august 27th um also this is again i'm getting a sick feeling in my stomach this is so

00:31:17.360 gross please like the video if you're not gonna super chat me guys hit the like but just as a

00:31:25.520 thank you could you just say thank you pearl thank you doug mpa for doing the research on this show

00:31:33.760 even though this is nasty for talking about this topic publicly even though this is disgusting

00:31:44.400 it's disgusting but it's got to be done i i cover the modern dating market and guys

00:31:50.080 that's that that's a big part of the modern dating market it's a big part this week i found out that

00:32:00.240 i have hiv i was diagnosed on august 20 23rd um i was diagnosed today is um

00:32:12.240 my attempt at my first day out i'm going to the movies with my friend um

00:32:16.880 50 dollars thank you thomas conservative that's the kind of talk that's the kind of viewership

00:32:23.980 i'm talking about that's the kind of support we love on this channel because it's it's do you know

00:32:31.680 what it's like now i have a video of me on the internet talking about freaking herpes that's

00:32:38.120 disgusting but i just felt obligated especially as i started doing these interviews i just wanted

00:32:46.020 to stress that it could it could happen to any of you because you know

00:32:52.980 i'd interview these people and i would be like wow you guys look like just the person next door

00:33:00.940 and it's i hate saying that because everyone like they

00:33:06.020 it sounds like i'm justifying it i'm really not but it's uh like i'm getting grossed out

00:33:13.840 the feeling in my stomach is just uh gross but you know i love it when you guys appreciate the

00:33:21.520 sacrifices i make for you thank you thomas conservative thank you because who else is

00:33:28.100 covering this bullshit who who else is covering this nobody nobody wants to talk about hiv and

00:33:35.340 Herpes, but pearl.

00:33:38.460 It was a really hard time.

00:33:41.280 It was really hard to get ready.

00:33:45.080 I don't quite know what I want to do with my story.

00:33:49.440 I don't know if I want to share it.

00:33:51.140 I don't know.

00:33:52.480 My mind is a thousand places at once.

00:33:57.820 But I wanted to document this in case one day I do decide to share it.

00:34:03.360 so that this part of my journey is seen i also just want to document this for my own self to see

00:34:12.160 how far i come because i know i have a world a life of um trials and tribulations and i know that

00:34:23.600 this is important this this part of the story is important whatever I make it that's really all

00:34:36.860 I never thought I would be here I never thought I would be talking and recording myself crying

00:34:42.440 it's not who I am but I'm here I'm at my lowest point well I've been lower actually which is

00:34:52.640 surprising but i don't know what could be lower than getting hiv do you know what like okay and

00:34:59.000 i thought about this because i interviewed a different guy thank you pearl sam thank you

00:35:03.960 i was interviewing i just i talked i talked too much i talked to a lot of people now

00:35:09.420 and talked to this guy who's like in his 50s and he's dating right

00:35:13.020 and he flat up told me you know and i was just asking him about his dating life because he's

00:35:19.460 interview he he dated these old broads right he was telling me about dating them and i'm like aren't

00:35:23.460 you afraid you're gonna like catch something he's like frankly because he was like 60 at his age

00:35:28.180 he's like at this point i don't care and i you know i do think there's like like if you catch

00:35:35.500 something at 20 that's far more devastating than catching something at 40 or 50. like that's far

00:35:43.740 more devastating far more i'm at a really big crossroad in my life and i'm just here and i'm

00:35:56.460 thankful for that yeah again you know you'd think you're taking home a latina baddie and now

00:36:08.380 you have HIV. All right, so according to the CDC, 59% of women between the ages of 20 to 49 have

00:36:17.720 genital herpes. Let that sink in. These women have the gift that keeps on giving. The luggage

00:36:24.740 you can never leave behind. Now, how do most of these women have herpes? From sleeping with the

00:36:30.380 same guys. You have Chad Gloctavius that has it and all the women that sleep with him raw and

00:36:36.540 contract it thanks pearly land doug condolences of actions

00:36:44.460 women would rather catch an std than day to five all right so here's another girl that has herpes

00:36:51.740 i mean again does this look like a super slut i like to tell you guys when i'm having a flare-up

00:36:57.180 just so that you see what it's like that's not why i'm in bed with a blanket though

00:37:02.060 i'm just comfy and taking in the golden hour do you see this okay so literally what i'm feeling

00:37:09.500 is and you are the raw walter cronk kite of herp derp hv hiv yeast i don't know what that means

00:37:19.900 but i guess thank you i'll let you know like i am on the antivirals daily lately i have been

00:37:26.700 since before the summer because i was just like i don't want to deal you know all it is is like

00:37:34.220 i'm itchy in one little spot is there anything visible there nope now what the the herpes people

00:37:42.700 told me is when they first when you first get infected with it i guess there's a lot of flare-ups

00:37:48.700 and then over time it becomes less and less and usually it's one spot that's infected and the

00:37:54.940 reason it goes around condoms and people get it even though there's no flare-up is because you're

00:38:01.120 most likely to spread it right before the flare-up comes so they can't see it so if it's like about

00:38:08.480 to like be a bliss or whatever the and they also said that it's very tough to see the difference

00:38:14.880 between that and like a skin tag and it's so disgusting I don't even like talking about this

00:38:21.020 But the other thing I was told is that over time, I guess, because one of the dudes that

00:38:27.740 I interviewed, I'm hoping he sees this.

00:38:29.760 I was going to message him on Twitter to call in, but I lost my Twitter.

00:38:33.200 So this was just like bad timing.

00:38:35.620 But he said that according to him, he doesn't take the antivirals.

00:38:41.440 Now, apparently the antivirals make it not spreadable.

00:38:44.460 He does not take the antivirals and he just spreads it and doesn't care.

00:38:48.820 now according to him out of like 100 girls he's slept with since only like two to five

00:38:56.360 said they got it now this kind of backs up the research i've seen where they can only spread it

00:39:04.560 like 20 of the year and even if you hook up with someone that has it i think you're more likely to

00:39:12.540 not get it than get it like they're not going to spread it every single time and but i guess the

00:39:18.780 way it goes around it's so disgusting i guess the way but i'm trying to be informative here

00:39:23.940 i guess the way it goes around the condom is some people get herpes like higher than you know

00:39:30.360 like higher i'll just say just for the sake of being youtube higher up i'll just say it like that

00:39:39.300 i'm not a doctor i'm not a medical professional this is just based on the research i've seen so

00:39:46.920 don't make any medical decisions based on this show i'm open if there's someone smarter than me

00:39:52.760 in the chat you never know we might have a doctor in the chat you let me know um much respect pearl

00:39:58.120 the real side of things is sometimes what more needs to be seen our best to you always thank you

00:40:03.880 thank you i'm like getting kind of grossed out talking about this okay can there be something

00:40:11.480 visible that comes in a day or two yeah it'll probably keep it everyone's saying it's gross

00:40:17.840 in the chat but there's 850 people in here somebody has it i don't know who i don't know

00:40:24.100 who but somebody put it in the chat be brave who's got it and become like a little bum and

00:40:29.980 look at if you guys have had sex with a hoe unprotected it could have been you it could

00:40:34.360 have if you ladies if you had sex with a guy unprotected it could have been you it could be

00:40:40.500 anybody truly and then eventually if i left it alone and didn't take an antiviral or didn't put

00:40:47.900 an ointment on it it might become a blister and then it would heal and go away does it hurt no

00:40:53.860 do i feel anything else with it no i'll keep you posted yeah that's kind of what i've i've heard

00:41:00.980 the first one hurts a lot that's the man they all said they all what they told me was the first one

00:41:08.160 is terrible brutal but then after that it's like not so bad and apparently there's drugs now

00:41:15.500 basically any problem that women have technology will solve so i guess there's drugs that make it

00:41:21.340 not spread allegedly i i but i think they have to take the medication the same time every day

00:41:27.600 and women you know what i mean um and the other issue is um

00:41:40.320 oh i guess they have to take medicaid make sure they're not having an outbreak when the girls

00:41:44.640 give birth so the kids don't get get it all right let's see this this is a dude or a girl

00:41:51.680 nine years ago this month i got genital herpes i was 16 years old and the person that gave me

00:41:59.840 herpes was 20 and i'll never forget this experience oh my gosh she got it at 16 that's such an l

00:42:08.520 i'm so grateful for this experience because it made me to the young lady that i am today

00:42:17.400 a lot of people have like controversial thoughts about me saying that i'm grateful for having

00:42:23.120 herpes but let me tell you why so when i was 16 i was already having a heart at home like i worked

00:42:31.640 a lot and i involved myself with old older men because my mom told me better to be a old man's

00:42:38.980 sweetheart than a young man's fool. So that's what I did. Unknowingly, this older man was in college

00:42:48.200 and he had herpes. So I was involved with him on like a Monday. And by Wednesday, I was having

00:42:54.960 symptoms. I had all these sores just pop up like each day and they would get worse. And that's what

00:43:01.900 i've that's what i've heard as well is if you get it they say there's no symptoms

00:43:08.300 but every person i've interviewed said they got symptoms pretty fast

00:43:13.880 um allegedly from what i read online it said you might have it and not even know

00:43:21.620 again people don't really want to talk about this stuff so you probably are going to learn more

00:43:29.220 you got two problems gynocentrism right people they're going to hide information that makes

00:43:35.740 women look bad so that's one way we're not really going to get the truth about it the other issue is

00:43:40.400 that people are pretty embarrassed about this stuff they don't really want to talk about it so

00:43:45.940 like they're gonna they lie to their part like you know there was a reddit of a married women

00:43:52.560 that woman that had herpes and never told her husband um i the friend i think the friend of

00:43:58.300 the the guy i know that dated the girl that went on a date with the girl that had it the girl got

00:44:03.340 engaged and the guy doesn't know careful out there and worse like it started with one then it went to

00:44:11.740 three then it went to six and then it was like a nine from my you know lady parts to my my butt

00:44:17.900 you know and i was in excruciating pain i'm like man i don't trust anybody in this house to tell

00:44:24.300 telling what's going on with me. And mind you all, I worked a lot. So I had a like overnight

00:44:29.880 type of job. Yes. When I was 16, it was like an early morning overnight. Like, I don't know what

00:44:34.540 shit you call that. Anyway, I ended up telling the lady that I worked with, like, oh my God,

00:44:40.600 like something is wrong with me. And you guys got to stop crashing out on these girls that

00:44:45.180 have herpes. If they tell you, I'm telling you, man or woman, if they tell you, you're lucky.

00:44:51.500 because i'm interviewing them and i'm telling you it's way easier for them to lie

00:44:58.040 my son caught herpes from his girlfriend okay if you could call in and tell us about it like

00:45:05.340 his symptoms what he's done dating thus far

00:45:08.940 um yeah and if you guys have had experience dating someone or whatever with it i please

00:45:21.000 don't come in and crash out about women having this stuff and men have like just call in i just

00:45:26.280 want the experience and she's like just try to push through like this is truck truck team for

00:45:31.560 jc pennies they like you can't go home you're gonna have to work so i'm like oh my gosh like

00:45:36.120 i have to work through this excruciating pain so finally finally it got to its wits ends to where

00:45:43.320 i was at home one day and it was so many sores down there it hurts to urinate so i was holding

00:45:52.500 my urine so long that i was standing in the kitchen with my mom and my urine just came out

00:45:57.740 of my body like my water had broke and my mom was like what is wrong with you what is wrong with you

00:46:03.960 and i just start bawling my mom is and was extra mean so i'm like i don't know there's just sores

00:46:12.020 everywhere down there and she's like you done got something oh my gosh she's mad like this was the

00:46:18.840 18th i think of july and she took me to the doctor the 19th of july and that's her birthday

00:46:24.640 um so yeah i found out i had herpes on my mom's birthday the doctor swabbed the swab she said oh

00:46:31.420 i'll send it in for testing but this is herpes my mom my mom was so mad at me that i think she

00:46:38.800 didn't talk to me for seven straight days like she wouldn't even look at me she continued to be mad

00:46:45.280 for like eternity she's cool now but she was like really really mad at me and i thought i would

00:46:53.400 never make it to see 18 and get up out of that house but i went through it you know what i'm

00:46:58.660 saying and that's why young kids come to me and they'd be like oh i'm so scared to tell my parents

00:47:03.960 and i get it but you have to go to the doctor and get the medicine so that you can start to

00:47:10.160 suppress it in your body i mean it'll go away on its own but it's better to just go get that medicine

00:47:16.420 all right let's see who's next yeah someone in the chat said i grew up in the 70s if someone

00:47:22.040 tells you you're lucky i'm telling you you guys are like if the girl or the guy told you here is

00:47:29.380 i'm not i'm i personally i i know there's a person i know that did marry another person

00:47:38.420 that had and i try to be vague so people can't and um there the reasoning was i'll just say

00:47:45.700 there was an exchange of value that this person felt like um was worth it and with the technology

00:47:53.220 they felt like it was that would personally be a deal breaker uh no thank you but um and i don't

00:48:02.900 i would never shame somebody you know for saying that's a deal breaker but i just we gotta be

00:48:09.220 honest here we gotta like you're very lucky if the girl told you because especially as a woman

00:48:16.100 being honest you guys should have said thank you so much for telling me and left yeah is what i

00:48:22.740 say when i disclose that i have genital herpes to a new potential partner i'm adrian the yodi

00:48:27.620 nutritionist and i've lived with genital herpes for over 20 years so i have a lot of experience

00:48:32.420 with disclosing what i've learned over the years is it's not what you say it's how you say it

00:48:36.580 before we get sexy i want to have a sexual health conversation just to make sure that we are on the

00:48:41.380 same page with where we're at and what we're good with it's important for me to share with you that

00:48:45.460 i live with genital herpes i've had it for a long time i'm doing everything that i can to manage and

00:48:50.020 prevent it i rarely get outbreaks anymore and we can still have an amazing sexy time i want to tell

00:48:55.540 you about it before we get sexy so that you don't find out about it afterwards i'd love to know when

00:48:59.860 the last time was you were tested and then you stop talking what you're doing here is you're

00:49:04.980 giving them the facts you're not getting emotional about it or you're not information dumping by

00:49:09.940 leaving it off with a question gives them an opportunity to think about when the last time

00:49:14.100 was they were tested because the responsibility isn't all just on you give them an opportunity

00:49:18.980 to digest all of that information that you just shared and then if they have any questions you

00:49:23.300 can open up further discussions from there most of the time the person on the receiving end of

00:49:27.620 the disclosure it's usually the first time that they've heard about something like this or they

00:49:31.780 don't know much about it so their confidence in you is a reflection of how confident you are in

00:49:36.580 yourself this is why learning more about herpes how to manage and prevent your outbreaks and

00:49:40.820 prevent transmission to your partners is so important to building your confidence when you

00:49:45.140 you live with herpes i teach you all about that in my healing herpes

00:49:48.080 look they gotta figure i actually don't think what this woman's doing is the worst thing in

00:49:57.300 the world because they gotta look at there's half of women and like 10 of men or something like that

00:50:04.140 that have to figure out how to date with this thing so um if she's teaching them how to tell

00:50:10.000 each other i think that's a win for society at least they're not spreading it um

00:50:24.720 that's so gross oh my god all right so what do we got next we got this woman i told my

00:50:31.440 yeah see she's a baddie parents and they took it really well but i did feel like i had to explain

00:50:40.480 you know why i hadn't protected myself because obviously my mom would ask me oh didn't you use

00:50:45.840 a condom i mean i didn't use a condom so it's definitely it must be from that but you can also

00:50:50.880 get it from not protecting yourself so there'll always be a risk of getting some sort of sti

00:50:56.160 my name is emily bride i am 29 years old i live in london and i'm an artist producer singer songwriter

00:51:08.960 i found out that i had gender herpes because i had this itchy feeling and it's been

00:51:15.280 it had been going on for like four days but i didn't really give it much thought until i was

00:51:22.480 when I was itchy or touching myself it actually hurt it started like it looked

00:51:27.700 like milky spots they turned out to small cuts and then they would like unfold

00:51:33.140 I've heard that's the biggest difference is they like blister open and that was

00:51:39.040 where I couldn't pee so that was where it was very smelly and uncomfortable I

00:51:45.340 had to then Google what I saw and then come to the conclusion that I might have

00:51:51.240 genital herpes i didn't want to talk to anyone about it because i was embarrassed so i

00:52:00.200 felt ashamed i felt embarrassed i felt disgusting most of all i started thinking about how

00:52:08.520 i couldn't date anymore and if i had to date i would have to wait having sex with them because

00:52:13.160 i wouldn't want to do what someone might have done to me not telling me and i didn't want

00:52:19.720 people to judge me because i was judging myself and that was the worst pain you can put on yourself

00:52:26.360 it was horrible mental pain i have to deal with and then on top of that started the physical

00:52:33.480 i have heard one strategy women with herpes use is they blow the guy because you don't have i think

00:52:41.880 you don't like it doesn't they don't always have it in the mouth right so they blow the guy and

00:52:49.880 they give him the best blow job of his life and then they tell him like you know later

00:52:56.680 or i've also heard that women will have sex with the guy and then tell him look at these

00:53:02.600 are stories i've heard communication and developing a relationship is vital and should be the goal

00:53:08.680 these random sexual encounters do have consequences well yeah but i'm telling you half the people i

00:53:14.120 interviewed got it from either a girlfriend or a wife could happen to anybody

00:53:22.440 it could happen that look and that's you know that's when you get some humility right because

00:53:31.000 i know i have made good decisions in my life but when i meet somebody that got it from a husband or

00:53:38.040 a wife and it was according to them the third person they were ever with

00:53:43.000 you know it humbles you a little bit because you're like damn that happened to them

00:53:50.020 and they made you know they got married young you know

00:53:54.880 it's yeah I know it's so gross it's gross but I'm just being real here guys I can't

00:54:01.900 I wish I could come back to you and say when I interviewed these people there were just these

00:54:06.540 skanks like they told you would totally be able to tell they had it they were just whoring about

00:54:12.460 but and some of them were right i mean some were kind of either man whores or female horse

00:54:19.260 but some weren't and i'm just you know i'm just being honest here me not being able to pee as a

00:54:26.620 woman you first thing you think of is like you know your appeal how will i now come across am

00:54:34.060 Am I sexy enough? Will anyone be with me? Am I good enough? And I should have done this.

00:54:40.240 It opens so many new questions in my life in terms of all the times I have not protected myself.

00:54:49.300 And why is that? And then digging into that and reflecting on that. And then the whole like me

00:54:54.420 being a woman, like, why is it that I feel this way? Why can't I just talk to my friends about it?

00:54:59.300 What am I ashamed about? This is very normal. Yeah. And as women, you know, when women get it,

00:55:03.400 they feel even more lonely because you tell a woman in the friend group she'll tell the whole

00:55:08.780 friend group and now everybody knows you can't tell women this stuff my relationship with my

00:55:14.000 new partner we've been together for seven months now and i told him about the whole story and what

00:55:20.360 happened and what went down and he just gave me a big kiss and a big hug he made me even more

00:55:26.780 confident or made me love myself i do see myself as a role model because otherwise i wouldn't

00:55:32.360 why do women take owls and then call themselves role models here today i would like to tell

00:55:39.560 everyone out there and the world just to spread awareness about genital herpes but to tell them

00:55:46.040 that they are completely normal and that it does not define who they are all right um

00:55:56.360 and you got to think about it like this guys have you been on three dates

00:56:03.600 one of the women probably had it okay um in some demographics it's higher so let's say you only

00:56:11.900 date like asian and white women because half of black women have herpes so if you go that route

00:56:17.460 you're playing with fire i'll tell you what the the white women it's like one in five i think or

00:56:24.520 one in six and Asian women it's one in eight but if you go on eight dates

00:56:29.020 look and anecdotally the the guys who gave me stories of the women you know one was a white

00:56:39.780 like that because I haven't interviewed a girl directly about it but I've had men tell me stories

00:56:46.200 of women they've dated that either had it and they didn't get it or they went on a date with

00:56:52.600 they told them and if i'm being honest the stories i've gotten back one white girl one indian one

00:56:59.560 jewish one black so it was pretty it was pretty around you know so all right like this girl has

00:57:09.340 it would you be able to tell i wouldn't oh basically i've been dating this guy like we

00:57:16.420 finally decided to say like okay we're not seeing other people so then i was like cool

00:57:21.700 but i hadn't told him about the herpes yet because it only had been like a month i think

00:57:25.420 of seeing this dude it wasn't that soon and i don't always tell a guy right away sometimes i

00:57:30.720 wait to even see what's going to happen but anyway so i waited a little bit just to kind

00:57:34.540 of see where things were going i had got a cold sore and i was like fuck and i was supposed to

00:57:38.960 hang out with him so i literally instead of telling him i was scared so i broke up with him

00:57:44.240 and gave him no explanation and he's like alexis what the fuck and i was like okay hear me out i

00:57:50.300 was like I kind of have herpes and I was scared to tell you and I have a cold sore right now

00:57:54.600 and he was like really that's why you're breaking up with me he's like I don't care like he was like

00:58:00.080 I don't care it doesn't matter at all he's like I know about it I dated a girl like that before

00:58:04.200 and I was like oh cool and he's like so can you still hang out I was like yeah he's like then

00:58:08.740 fucking come over I don't care we just want kids and I was like oh so it's not all right

00:58:15.340 uh let's see who this girl's boyfriend is he dates her with herpes and he can't even

00:58:20.620 make the gram isn't that crazy he can't even yeah i mean you know if she's young and pretty enough

00:58:32.940 guys will accept it for the you think you guys would really be able to tell come on

00:58:37.900 all right so i did i asked chat gpt how likely you are to catch it using a condom

00:58:48.700 all right so the risk factors of catching hiv or herpes through oral or a vaginal sex depend

00:58:57.000 on several factors including whether protection is used the infected partner's viral load especially

00:59:03.220 for hiv and whether the virus is actively shedding now i do we do need to take this

00:59:08.260 with a grain of salt because it is chat gpt

00:59:12.820 but this is what it's telling me um i would have used grok but i'm locked out of out of my twitter

00:59:20.580 um here's a breakdown of the estimated risk per exposure for oral and vaginal sex for hiv and

00:59:28.580 herpes based on cdc data and peer-reviewed studies so if you have vaginal sex with a woman

00:59:35.780 if you're a woman and you have sex with a guy that has it um it has hiv

00:59:43.460 it says one in 1250

00:59:50.740 um and if you're the guy putting it in a girl it's one in 2500 but it does increase if there's

01:00:02.860 blood involved so if you're hooking up with a girl on her period doing backdoor stuff if you're just

01:00:09.240 a big guy you catch my drift there's blood or if you have other stis oral sex it says extremely

01:00:17.400 low the risk is not negligible but not zero slightly higher if there's ejaculation sores

01:00:24.380 or bleeding gums again condoms reduce the risk by 80 to 90 percent if a if the hiv plus partner

01:00:36.080 is on art and undefectible the risk is pretty low that's what i've heard i've heard that from

01:00:42.040 medical professionals on shows too again we're in a gynocentric social order

01:00:49.800 we're all sifting through this here everybody's selling something i don't know herpes all right

01:00:58.040 ladies um if you have sex with a guy with herpes um you have a one in ten chance of getting it if

01:01:08.120 the partner has hsv2 no condom and is shedding so if you have sex with a guy that is has his viral

01:01:16.600 shedding which happens 20 of the year there's a one in chance 10 chance you get it if he's like

01:01:23.960 and there's no condom um men it's a one in 20 to 30 if you're banging a girl with herpes you got a

01:01:31.160 one in 20 to 30 one in 20 to 30 times you'll get it her hsv2 sheds more frequently than hsv1

01:01:39.640 hsv2 is genital herpes hsv1 is cold sores oral sex is lower than vaginal but hsv1 can transmit

01:01:50.120 to genitals and vice versa so if the girl gets cold sores she can put that on your on your you

01:01:55.560 know stuff if she's been you know um and it's similar um for the male hsv1 is the main cause

01:02:04.360 of genital herpes from oral sex oh didn't know that okay condoms reduce herpes risk by 30 to 50

01:02:13.960 herpes can be transmitted even when no symptoms are present daily anti antiviral meds can reduce

01:02:21.240 transmission risk significantly i have heard that some guys will take that before a date to reduce

01:02:27.640 the risk i don't know if that works for someone that doesn't have it i'm not a medical professional

01:02:34.040 maybe doug mpa can dig into that um all right but basically the it's saying that um herpes

01:02:45.960 is 3% to 10% chance of catching it if he's shedding and no condom.

01:02:52.400 I don't know why it's saying HIV is so low.

01:02:55.460 It's saying you're very unlikely to get that.

01:02:57.900 I don't know why.

01:03:00.940 Okay, it says risk reduction tips.

01:03:05.520 Use condoms or dental dams.

01:03:07.300 Ask their partner if they've been tested.

01:03:09.020 Avoid sex.

01:03:09.780 If there are any visible sores or symptoms for HIV,

01:03:12.860 ask about ART use and viral load.

01:03:15.960 for herpes ask about antivirals um all right if you'd like i can calculate your estimated

01:03:23.880 risk if you've had multiple encounters or break it down by specific scenarios

01:03:28.240 it for example if you're in a six month sexual relationship with one partner who has hiv or

01:03:34.440 herpes and you always use condoms your chance of getting infected depends on how often you have sex

01:03:40.040 whether your partner is taking treatment whether the virus is active or shedding for herpes and

01:03:45.120 how consistent your condom uses. So let's assume vaginal sex is two to three times per week for

01:03:52.360 six months. So you have about 60 acts of sex. Condoms are used every time and the partner is

01:03:58.300 either HIV positive or HSV. And you are HIV negative and HSV negative at the start. The

01:04:06.600 receptive female. It says for HIV, it's one in 100,000 and one in 250,000. Those are the odds

01:04:15.860 with 60 protected acts. Oh, so it's for each one. It's per act. But if you do it 60 times,

01:04:25.480 your odds are one in 4,167 as a guy and one in 6,667 as a girl. John, my ex-wife gave me

01:04:35.380 chlamydia the only one i've ever been with we're divorced now yeah sometimes it's just an l

01:04:39.760 it says if the hiv partner is on art and undetectable the risk is near zero

01:04:46.660 now the herpes risk over six months with condoms um so male to female so if a man's having sex

01:04:54.620 are male to men giving it to women four to five percent ladies so um if you're just using a condom

01:05:04.320 and no medication, 4% to 5% are going to catch it. Women to men, women giving it to men, 2% to 3%

01:05:11.480 are going to get it within six months. It actually would be interesting to see how that extrapolates

01:05:17.020 over like 10 years. In six months, the male risk is 1.5% and the female risk is 2.5% will get it.

01:05:27.560 If the HSV Plus partner is on daily antiviral medication, the risk drops by 50%.

01:05:35.480 If the partner has HSV1 genitally, risk may be lower due to less frequent shedding.

01:05:41.840 Oral sex adds additional but lower HSV1 transmission risk, especially if the HSV Plus partner gets cold stores.

01:05:51.780 Um, all right. The summary is that for a man, if you're, if you're banging a girl, one in 4,000 for

01:06:00.660 HIV, HIV and one in 67 for herpes. Those are your chances for a woman. One in six, that one,

01:06:08.640 thou one in 1,667. If the dude's got HIV, if you're banging for six months, three times a week

01:06:15.420 And the woman is one in 40.

01:06:20.240 And it's a higher risk due to shedding.

01:06:22.840 Antivirals help.

01:06:26.460 To lower the risk, have your partner get tested and treated.

01:06:30.400 Avoids having sex during herpes outbreaks.

01:06:33.700 Consider PREP for HIV negative partners.

01:06:38.600 If you want to model different sexual activity levels, let me know.

01:06:43.540 okay okay yeah now we're done all right so um now that we're talking about this

01:06:51.280 i want to know you guys's experience um do you have hiv or herpes call in it's all anonymous so

01:06:59.180 um we're just gonna have cameras off today um have you gone on a date and had somebody tell

01:07:08.320 you about it um it and had somebody tell you have you ever been getting to know someone they say i

01:07:15.440 have hiv or herpes um and how long did it take you to tell somebody and what did you do or for them

01:07:24.480 to tell you and would hiv and herpes be a deal breaker for me personally um that would just

01:07:33.360 you know it's just one of those things that if you don't got it you don't want it

01:07:38.320 i get really tired of the herpes people with the cold sores saying everyone's got cold sores

01:07:43.600 because i'm like i've never had a cold sore in my life i don't even want that one no thank you i'm

01:07:48.160 good i am i am i am no thank you all right but let's let's go to doug mpa um thanks for torturing

01:07:58.720 yourself through this topic it's a tough one but i do think it's important so yeah you know if half

01:08:05.360 the thing if half the we got to think of the math here if half the population of women has it

01:08:10.480 if it's attractive women it might be even higher yeah yeah i'd say six is in above it's probably 80

01:08:18.080 gross um so this is this is a big part of dating nowadays so you know have you

01:08:27.520 have you come across it in the dating market what's been your experience yeah you know i actually

01:08:33.280 Honestly, there is a time where I was trying to actively date B-dubs.

01:08:39.160 And one of them, you know, we were talking for a little bit online online and, you know,

01:08:44.540 two, three weeks, whatever.

01:08:45.540 And we went out on one date and then I actually went on a work trip for my day job.

01:08:51.420 So we're talking when I get back to the hotel, we're talking whatever.

01:08:54.520 And it was to the point where the day before I was going to come back, it's like, all right,

01:08:58.080 when I come back, we're going to go on a date and we're going to smash, right?

01:09:01.500 She's like, yeah, I just want you to know that I may have herpes.

01:09:06.800 I said, what's this?

01:09:07.860 You may have herpes.

01:09:08.940 She's like, well, I took a test and it was inconclusive.

01:09:13.700 I said, wait, what?

01:09:17.860 What do you mean inconclusive?

01:09:19.560 She's like, oh, yeah, it was inconclusive.

01:09:21.340 Yeah, I never talked to her again after that.

01:09:24.220 You're lucky she told you.

01:09:25.600 You're lucky she told you.

01:09:27.720 Yeah, I am.

01:09:28.340 And then one of my friends went out with another B-dub, and they were just about to get it on.

01:09:35.960 And this girl was beautiful, too.

01:09:38.700 And she had a little pamphlet that, you know, they were on the couch and stuff.

01:09:46.620 And she pulled a pamphlet out of her purse.

01:09:50.260 It was like, I have genital herpes, but it's not the worst thing in the world.

01:09:55.200 and blah blah so she created this whole pamphlet and handed it to him and expected him to be like

01:10:01.440 read it and say okay yeah he was like get the hell up out of my house i'm gonna have to watch my

01:10:09.760 watch my couch cushion now get out of here then she tried to call him and say now that you calm

01:10:16.880 down you know i hope you she kept trying to call him and then after a couple days she's like i know

01:10:24.640 know you've calmed down and I'm willing to give you a second chance.

01:10:28.280 She's like, a second chance, just disgusting.

01:10:31.260 But once at least she told them.

01:10:33.460 Yeah, I'm telling you, when I was interviewing these people, I think I

01:10:38.500 showed you a voice note one of them sent, or maybe I don't remember if I did, but

01:10:42.400 like the pit I got in my stomach, I was like, oh my God.

01:10:48.580 Like, I was like, oh my God, they do not care.

01:10:51.540 They just spread it around.

01:10:52.960 yeah you're lucky because a lot like I said the story earlier there was a

01:10:59.140 someone I know went on a date with someone with a girl and she told him but because it didn't work

01:11:07.080 out with him she never told a guy again and then she got married two years later because

01:11:13.400 she just started lying do you know what I mean like she tried telling the truth it didn't get

01:11:18.060 her what she wanted so she said fuck it i'm gonna lie now she's married now so because i think that

01:11:25.620 people with stds should tell the person and because what's worse them lie because a lie of

01:11:36.060 omission is still a lie you know what i'm saying yeah but you could say should but it doesn't matter

01:11:40.660 yeah like they're like like do you know what i mean that's like a wish list they're not going to

01:11:47.000 because it doesn't give them the outcomes they want it doesn't give the guys sex it doesn't

01:11:51.060 give the girls relationships and the way they view it is actually let me look how often do

01:11:57.060 people get tested how often do people get not often enough that's how stds um

01:12:05.280 i'm gonna say on average let's see

01:12:10.220 uh it keeps telling me should i want to know how often people do well if i had to guess people get

01:12:18.940 tested like once every two years maybe on average i don't think that's enough but if i had to what

01:12:26.940 would you guess it is just anecdotally ask that again i'm sorry i had to block this king guy in

01:12:32.340 the chat because he is i made steve m a moderator he's legit he's a great moderator guys

01:12:40.020 and if you come at him come on now guys calm it down no caps no curse words because

01:12:47.320 remember pearl's channel is a red pill channel it just gotten re-monetized it's probably still

01:12:53.620 on some watch lists somewhere so youtube censors her chat based upon certain things so just

01:12:58.540 follow the rules please i'm sorry go ahead pearl how often because i keep googling this and it says

01:13:05.780 how often people should get tested how often do you think people do get tested like what's your

01:13:11.760 just like being in the field experience if you have to guess well because i know people that

01:13:19.200 just don't don't even go to the doctor so i'd say maybe once every two years that's what i that's

01:13:24.360 i said the same thing for a guess so like a guy that's sexually active how many girls is he running

01:13:30.680 through a year would you say a guy actively dating like in the dating market so a guy that's

01:13:36.260 in the top 30 20 percent yeah i'd say he's smashing 15 15 women a year okay at least how

01:13:46.160 is who is he going to be mad at he he he tests positive after two years he's got 30 women he's

01:13:53.280 going to call um and women let's say it's the same numbers i don't think it is it's probably

01:14:00.500 higher for women but let's say women it's 30 guys two years same thing uh so i think that

01:14:07.700 i think that he just can test positive i don't even think he's going to reach back out to

01:14:13.520 anyway i think that women are more likely to reach back out to the men than the men are to

01:14:18.500 reach back out to the women if they're dating right but that's my point is like the incentive

01:14:23.760 for people to be honest isn't there because by the time yeah by the time they get tested

01:14:29.120 they can't prove who gave it and that's exactly like one of the people i interviewed that's what

01:14:34.100 he told me he said well they're sleeping with multiple guys like the reasoning he said he said

01:14:39.840 well the girls don't even ask they don't even ask to put on a condom so if they don't care about

01:14:43.540 their health why should i and and here's the thing uh from what i've read men get more immediate

01:14:51.740 symptoms than women do women can go years without getting symptoms

01:14:55.820 I don't I've never interviewed everyone I interviewed was a guy but one of them

01:15:03.540 infected he's had long-term people that he's infected and he said they got it pretty quick

01:15:14.040 like he said they got symptoms pretty quick when they got it that was what he said I know it makes

01:15:21.060 you like feel sick but they like I'm telling you they don't care should is like a waste of time

01:15:25.300 they don't care yeah like because like the way yeah the way the way they're gonna view it is

01:15:31.380 like you're killing my sex life and i'm not gonna do it so yeah some people are out here man just

01:15:40.420 doing damage right but when they get the positive results after two years it's like who are they

01:15:45.940 gonna call yeah nobody so there's no accountability go ahead the way that the sex life was what did

01:15:52.820 did you think was going to happen well some of them die i'm telling you like a good amount of

01:15:58.900 the guys got it from wives that i interviewed i'd say half yeah i would imagine that because

01:16:05.680 i honestly believe in marriages women cheat far more than men yeah like two of the guys i would

01:16:12.360 say were man whores two of them got it from one was a girlfriend that he was with for a while one

01:16:18.100 was a wife um my dolls and drugs are disease free and they don't cheat oh eric with the doll

01:16:24.040 i mean he has a point there eric you are not helping me with the incel audience allegations

01:16:31.480 okay guys all right make sure make sure to like the stream if you haven't already

01:16:39.820 is anyone in the chat or is anyone called in yeah yeah yeah okay i was like i wouldn't be

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01:17:05.140 and thanks for those in the audacity chat i actually had to boot fazelle from the audacity

01:17:10.920 chat today but fazelle if you're listening you can't be acting up like that man you can come on

01:17:17.160 tomorrow but you can't be calling people names and f-bombs and be intentionally incendiary man

01:17:24.400 you you've been a long time supporter but you can't be rolling like that okay all right so

01:17:29.340 we're gonna bring up the next i'd i'm also might ask you guys how often you get tested

01:17:35.060 just out of curiosity okay so i see some new names so let's bring some new names in here

01:17:42.620 uh akshay are you there uh hi there hi how are you good how are you yeah i'm good thank you just

01:17:54.180 saw the the thing and it just found it interesting so yeah all right so my guys when it rains here

01:18:00.700 my audio is kind of bad so i'm gonna have them mute me after i ask the question just to make

01:18:07.660 the audio a little better um can can you get can you hear it doug i'm assuming you can it you can

01:18:15.100 bear oh you can barely hear it's bad we can't hear on the zoom we can barely hear on youtube

01:18:21.180 oh okay then i might leave so okay well what's your um so what's your experience did you catch

01:18:27.500 an std or do you know someone that has one uh sorry i didn't catch one no sorry i just tuned

01:18:35.980 into the show uh no all right buddy sorry did he not people that just like walk in i can't i'm no

01:18:47.260 yeah guys don't don't call it i i said this earlier but call in if you have a story either

01:18:53.260 you or someone you know you know yeah christopher i'm sorry yeah good evening hey chris i can't

01:19:04.540 good evening i'm make sure you hear the youtube in the background so you have to turn the youtube

01:19:08.460 off earlier but call in if you have a story either you or someone you know you know yeah

01:19:15.660 okay i don't have a story i have a question chris you're listening to youtube you have to turn the

01:19:21.900 youtube off here uh could you yeah i'm gonna guys if i come into the 21st century guys come on now

01:19:31.660 if i okay if i say call in if you have a story and you come on and you say but i have a question

01:19:39.740 you know i love you guys but it's just i'm trying to run a show here okay so if nobody

01:19:46.940 wants to call in and tell me their std story i understand i really do um but yeah all right

01:19:55.020 okay someone else i don't know let's let's get in a good mood we're gonna admit

01:20:01.820 probably our favorite guest on the show we know he has some stuff to say about this dustin what's up

01:20:08.060 I'm not having an outbreak. Can I have my video on?

01:20:17.060 Yeah.

01:20:19.060 Oh my God.

01:20:21.060 I don't have anything. I don't have anything. It's alright. I'm not contagious.

01:20:26.060 So, enlighten us. Who has gotten the herp derp or the high five?

01:20:37.060 well okay who do i i knew i actually i worked with this girl who had it

01:20:43.320 that's what you asked right yeah but there was a girl named all right so wow i almost let it slip

01:20:50.060 but uh i remember you know in the service industry they got this thing called an early out

01:20:56.920 like if it's slow so this this girl she goes on a date with this guy and she comes to work and

01:21:04.840 she's like really freaking out uh like a week later and it comes time for eo and we have guests

01:21:11.620 at the bar and she goes well shouldn't i get the eo because i just found out i have herpes

01:21:16.520 and she said it so loud and uh yeah it was wild and then um i actually when i was bartending at

01:21:26.360 this casino one of the guys i worked with and you're right you would never know that he had hiv

01:21:33.160 but um he he ended up telling me about it and uh like how he got it and he actually spread it to

01:21:42.140 his wife but he didn't know he had it for um a long time they went on a vacation like a year

01:21:49.060 into their marriage and uh he got really sick on the vacation and almost died and he ended up

01:21:57.400 spreading it to her unbeknownst to her and uh it's like it's really sad it it's very sad when

01:22:03.640 someone tells you they have it uh obviously um but uh he seemed pretty at peace with it and he

01:22:12.220 would tell me that with all these new pills and stuff he just goes and raw dogs chicks just like

01:22:18.300 did before so oh my gosh wait so right i'm not saying it's right but uh well yeah you like yeah

01:22:26.780 go on uh i was just thinking about because i've always been real afraid of stds because i don't

01:22:33.740 i don't it's not that i don't i'm just too lazy i don't i don't want to be proactive about

01:22:40.220 rubbers you know i'm just like i just put it wherever it wants to go and uh like

01:22:49.340 i just think about it do you know how the gender pay gap how that figure is gotten it's kind of

01:22:55.820 like how they get the std figure because you make sure one in five people have an std but i've done

01:23:03.020 shag 12 of my friends and i never got an std i wouldn't get tested so i was like statistically

01:23:08.860 that's not right you know but um yeah but you don't it's also based on your immune system so

01:23:14.860 you might have a strong immune system yeah i got that i got that jewish blood in me i'm immune

01:23:23.020 wait so um the guy that had it um did he how did he get it did he tell you and was he just

01:23:32.060 he was banging other girls while he was married i'm guessing and did he ever spread it like did

01:23:36.940 Did he ever have that problem

01:23:38.200 where they called him and said they got it?

01:23:39.860 Go ahead.

01:23:41.740 So he got it because he was also doing drugs.

01:23:46.000 He was doing hard stuff because he had a lot of depression.

01:23:50.660 His brother committed suicide and started doing heroin.

01:23:55.700 And he was doing that outside of seeing his wife

01:23:59.660 and that's how he contracted it.

01:24:02.000 And he spread it to his wife.

01:24:03.560 He wasn't unfaithful.

01:24:05.880 And, um, that's one thing that, because I did, I met a, uh, like, I digged down this chick in New York City, and after I talked to her for a bit, she told me her best friend had HIV, and I got really afraid, because I didn't use, I didn't wrap it up, so, like, I broke up, I went to her work, like, a week later, and I broke up with her, and she was like, why?

01:24:27.060 And I said, I think, like, I said something really rude, but, you know, and people don't, when people have it,

01:24:35.300 they don't tell you this crazy life they usually live before they contracted something that serious.

01:24:40.680 Like, herpes is another thing, you know, you can get that.

01:24:44.100 That's something that's real scary.

01:24:46.420 But HIV, I don't, if people went into their backstory, you would be like, wow, no wonder you got it, you know.

01:24:53.660 Yeah, I've never met anyone with HIV.

01:24:56.200 I've met people with herpes, but not HIV.

01:24:58.780 Like, not personally, anyways.

01:25:02.440 The people that you've met with herpes, were they sexually promiscuous, or were they just like, oh, this just happened?

01:25:11.860 Oh, wait, actually, I do know one girl that has it.

01:25:14.240 The girl just, she dated a Chad.

01:25:16.380 He had it.

01:25:18.440 Oh.

01:25:19.880 She actually had only been with, like, one, maybe two guys.

01:25:23.740 like she was pretty young when she got it um the guy um he was promiscuous but he got it pretty

01:25:33.280 early on like maybe like he actually kind of reminds me of you a little bit like his attitude

01:25:40.240 yeah he's a yeah but like early on he got it um one guy was married he got it from his wife he

01:25:51.580 wasn't promiscuous so i don't know anyone with hiv though the the girl though that got it did

01:25:58.840 she lie going forward or did she because she was obviously really honest there oh no she didn't

01:26:05.840 she actually just started like she got it she said that stupid thing at work she didn't work

01:26:14.040 for a week she came back and then she started dating another bartender it was there you go i

01:26:19.220 I was just about to ask.

01:26:20.460 Because I'm telling you, some guys and some girls, they don't give an F, man.

01:26:24.320 They just dive right in with both feet anyway.

01:26:27.700 Yeah.

01:26:28.460 But so the guy had to know, right?

01:26:32.780 Oh, he knew.

01:26:33.820 He knew.

01:26:34.380 But I think that once you say, oh, I have this drug that stops my outbreak.

01:26:45.500 So as long as you don't see it, we don't got to worry about it.

01:26:49.220 i think if a girl says something like that a guy's gonna be like hey sign me up you know

01:26:57.940 um would it be a deal breaker for you

01:27:03.700 well

01:27:09.940 i'm 34 so like

01:27:12.180 uh hey hiv for sure you know i'm not like i'd make out with a chick that had hiv on new year

01:27:23.340 you know if she needed that like a kiss and no one else would kiss her at night

01:27:26.360 um like it was herpes i would and she got she'd have to be bad but you know 34 and i gotta live

01:27:38.040 with it for just a little bit longer you know it might be worth it i'd have to

01:27:43.280 like margot robbie at 21 i would i'd even ask for and get herpes on that you know but

01:27:51.200 i'm probably not gonna do it i you know i'm i'm at the point because i'm in my 40s if i

01:28:03.000 because i was telling pro this if i met a girl because you know i like tall women so if she

01:28:07.500 was like five ten five nine you know you know crossed a bunch of the boxes off and all she had

01:28:13.780 was like cold sores on her mouth or something i mean i could probably deal with that only because

01:28:19.540 one of my friends was married to her husband for like 15 years and he he got cold sores when he was

01:28:25.840 a kid and they were married for 15 years and she never got it so um but but once again that would

01:28:33.620 have to she'd have to be like you know a seven or above and have a lot of traditional values and

01:28:38.980 stuff like that but um yeah yeah the high five no way and then genital hsb herpes in the heck no no

01:28:47.940 way i don't even i don't even think i'd risk cold sores like those look painful like i don't know

01:28:55.300 i've never had i've never i don't really like canker sores you know the stuff you get when

01:29:00.340 you eat too much sugar oh and i'm like a court store those look worse i'm like i don't know if

01:29:05.940 i'd risk that all right all right jesse we're gonna have to cut it a little short tonight

01:29:12.820 because we have a full range of callers but thanks for calling in we have a lot of callers

01:29:17.540 we do have a good one guys all right see ya i was here talking to you buddy yeah

01:29:24.260 okay i'm gonna try christopher again be ready man

01:29:30.340 christopher yeah good evening how's it going chris

01:29:37.780 yeah good okay thanks okay what you got for me you got did you get an std or do you know someone

01:29:45.620 that has one or or or are either other two that we talked about a deal breaker for you

01:29:53.620 what do you got okay so with on on the std front okay so i just i just did some reading

01:30:04.900 on herpes and what it actually does to like the like during pregnancy

01:30:14.660 so it's it's like pretty severe right the the chances of like the mother transferring the

01:30:27.580 the infection to the baby is not it's it's it's quite high but it's not like 100 percent um

01:30:40.900 kind of guaranteed it would transfer that's the first thing that i've got from the ai overview

01:30:51.280 so um yeah obviously i'm not i'm not saying like it doesn't it it shouldn't affect like

01:31:01.680 people's choices but that's just what i'm reading okay what about you personally

01:31:06.800 me personally i do i have herpes i don't i don't think so no like i know i get cold sores but like

01:31:16.880 no i don't have like i went i went recently to an sdd clinic um about a month ago

01:31:27.200 and yeah i got like the whole kind of like um

01:31:32.240 how often how often do you get tested um maybe like

01:31:48.960 once a year probably okay

01:31:53.360 um is our have you ever been dating a woman and she said oh just so you know i've got the herb there

01:31:59.920 or i have hiv yeah yeah and it yeah and that was the end of the uh relationship was it would you

01:32:08.280 have guessed like did she look like she might have had an std did she look really promiscuous or what

01:32:14.160 no she just no she just yeah she just had a cold sore and then i was like i just asked about it

01:32:23.940 and then i was like yeah okay well did she have genital herpes too or just the i don't know i

01:32:30.800 don't know i didn't go oh you were like not you're you're the cold sore wasn't but if you get cold

01:32:36.600 sores i think that means you have the first one so what is that is that yeah i'm like pretty

01:32:42.120 yeah there's hsv1 and hsv2 hsv2 is the bad one where you get a it's it's a bunch of stuff

01:32:53.120 yeah you don't want hsv2 hsv1 they say sad part about it they say like by the time you're 45

01:33:00.560 like 70 to 80 percent of people have like hsv have cold sores or something like that

01:33:07.620 oh my god in the west god willing i just i've never had one and they look painful

01:33:14.580 yeah so okay um so what you said i'm a little confused because i'm looking at what i'm reading

01:33:27.780 on chat gpt is it says it's not that likely the kid will get herpes i don't i don't know

01:33:35.860 i'm not like i don't know like it's saying it's only if she's in an active infection

01:33:41.460 right and what and how often does that happen occur it's like 20 of the year but they can

01:33:49.780 take drugs to suppress it i don't know though i'm not a doctor this is the the problem is this topic

01:33:57.720 it's like people like they coddle women so much they don't really give us the information so it's

01:34:04.380 all coddled so i don't know go ahead and also women they women are still seen as the the victims

01:34:14.500 of this whole thing when there are women that are knowingly spreading it or or come on guys

01:34:21.240 come on ladies if you're with a a gab in the starving musician or a glock tavius come on man

01:34:29.460 just just assume they have it and don't mess with the guy you know what i'm saying but women do it

01:34:33.000 anyway yeah yeah all right i mean really like yeah i mean if if i was gonna like make the law

01:34:43.080 then i would be like that should be a kind of punishable offense because you can't medical

01:34:49.940 records like yeah people have people have yeah people have the right to like keep medical records

01:34:55.300 private okay like confidentiality yeah right and yeah but okay yeah i'm just i i agree with you but

01:35:07.220 i'm just i'm just being honest about this there are some states that the california has a thing

01:35:11.940 where if you normally give someone hiv you can charge them with a crime so you you start to see

01:35:17.460 more and more states like that yeah well yeah no i think yeah i mean yeah that that makes sense and

01:35:25.540 like to be honest like i just think that if like it's it's like i guess it's there's there's some

01:35:34.900 kind of like gray area or that there is i guess the people have like the right to

01:35:42.420 privacy i guess but um i i just don't i just don't i just don't think in like if if you're

01:35:51.880 going to kind of like think about like evolving the human race right and trying to make sure that

01:35:58.560 like certain things don't get it just it does yeah i know it just it doesn't matter it don't

01:36:04.960 like it doesn't matter what you think because like women aren't gonna let it happen uh we're

01:36:10.100 to go on to the next caller but thanks for calling in okay okay all right cheers bye

01:36:22.820 i'm sorry i just didn't want to go down the route of like it shouldn't be i mean you know how it is

01:36:27.140 it's like it doesn't matter bad luck are you there yes sir bad luck is that bad luck because you got

01:36:35.220 it yeah i have to you know at least try to make fun of it yeah okay um so how did you catch it

01:36:47.700 uh it's a bit of an unfortunate uh event but basically uh i was i was a virgin married this

01:36:57.620 girl she didn't say uh and then all of a sudden you know surprise surprise

01:37:05.220 surprise surprise you got which one i i so according to the tests i have both of them but

01:37:14.260 uh i only had like blisters uh like on the you know basically on the genitals

01:37:21.140 wow so you got both from and so you were a virgin until you got married yep wow

01:37:28.580 wow and are you guys still married or no no and what have you done in like your dating life now

01:37:36.840 do you like tell the women or what do you uh i i kind of tried talking to some other women after

01:37:45.980 that and then like i remember uh dating one canadian girl in particular and she was just like

01:37:53.220 oh yeah i love you this and that and then when i told her she was basically like gagging and she

01:37:58.060 like she said it was like disgusting or whatever and i'm like okay cool you know uh so were you

01:38:04.400 guys hooking up at that point no no no before anything happened i just let her know and and

01:38:11.060 she was you know she acted completely like disgusted by it so uh and then then she came

01:38:18.520 back around and then she was just like you know she was trying to be nice about it and i was just

01:38:22.100 like okay uh you know and it's just kind of like discourages you from tell talking to anybody and

01:38:27.200 telling anything to anybody that's basically what happens and have you tried like dating sites for

01:38:33.700 people that have it like is that something you've tried no not really okay is it something you want

01:38:40.940 to try or not like how long have you had it for uh probably i want to say since maybe like 2013

01:38:49.980 or something like that and i'm just curious how much does it affect your life like the blisters

01:38:56.040 how often are they and like how bad would you say it is like the h like for both the symptoms

01:39:02.200 um so but when i first got it it was kind of often um it was they're extremely painful and

01:39:12.480 they take a long time to heal so it's a very uncomfortable experience um and you know you

01:39:20.300 just try to basically get your best to keep it like clean and dry because you know that stuff

01:39:25.660 like spreads basically so you know um and then after that it's just like it just becomes way

01:39:32.980 less often it's just less often and less often to the point that now it's like i haven't had it in

01:39:37.320 years yeah that's what i've heard from the other guys i've interviewed too um do you think that

01:39:45.220 like if you were to hook up with somebody they would be able to tell you had it like do you

01:39:51.440 it's easy to identify like if you're in an outbreak or like or not go ahead uh yeah i mean

01:39:58.480 i guess if uh if if if there's a visible sign then yeah but honestly no i couldn't tell you

01:40:06.000 know if somebody's lying about it and they don't have anything visible then it's like impossible

01:40:10.320 to tell and what about your wife like you didn't notice any like blistering when you guys were

01:40:15.680 married and like how long were you married till you got it like how long were you hooking up till

01:40:20.960 you got it probably a year and a half or something like that maybe less a year year and a half yeah

01:40:30.080 and was she taking medication or no no not that she didn't say she acted like she didn't know

01:40:36.800 she was just lying through her teeth the entire time so i i never noticed anything

01:40:41.680 she never said anything so you know sounds about right so that's that's how it is and for

01:40:50.480 hiv is it likely that you will die from that someday like based on the technology now

01:40:58.160 now people live with that stuff until old age i had an uncle that had it and

01:41:02.960 you know he just lived until old age basically he died from something else

01:41:07.520 girl he said he said that he has both versions of of hsv herpes not not hiv oh i'm sorry i

01:41:16.320 misheard you i thought yeah hiv there's one and there's two i was like damn damn it's a double

01:41:21.360 homicide so are you are you in um are you in the south are you in like texas or new mexico or

01:41:31.920 something like that no i'm in the south yes yeah so i was um i lived in san antonio for

01:41:40.720 for a couple of years and there's this lady that was on the news

01:41:45.120 and she got uh hve sleeping with a random man wow and so she would go to and she was very

01:41:54.160 attractive too she'd go to the airport in like a little black dress or like a little red dress

01:42:00.240 and just sit at the high-end bar at the airport and then just get hit on by some guy that was

01:42:06.800 traveling and sleep with the guy raw and then just keep it going yeah and she'd do that every single

01:42:12.000 weekend and she she's been arrested multiple times for it but she just keeps doing it she's like yes

01:42:18.960 someone gave it to me so i'm gonna give it to as many people yes so she just she'll sit there at

01:42:23.520 the bar at the airport let guys pick her up take her home and then do it raw there are some very

01:42:29.360 twisted people out there what did your wife do after was she able to get remarried again

01:42:38.080 oh yeah yeah so she was basically yeah it's just you know she was she was cheating on me uh that's

01:42:44.400 why i left her um and then she married the guy that she was cheating on me with and she had a

01:42:50.800 a kid with him too oh yep and do you know anyone else who has it you said your uncle has it and

01:43:00.440 i'm just curious if the people when you brought up like hivs that's what my uncle had okay i was

01:43:07.900 just curious does he tell people about it or does he lie honestly i don't know to be honest with you

01:43:17.540 because i mean he told me i remember he like the family knew but i don't know if like he told people

01:43:24.900 he dated i'm not really sure i was never like into like his business like that but you know

01:43:29.900 fortunately he passed away uh you know he's not around anymore so i couldn't tell you

01:43:35.660 um and when's the last time you had an outbreak you said it's been years

01:43:41.120 oh yeah it's been years i don't even remember when was the last time to be honest with you

01:43:45.180 how many bad years do you have to endure before it like gets to that you said in the beginning

01:43:50.780 like in the beginning is it every other month like how often do you get it

01:43:54.420 shoot it's been a long time i'm trying to remember it was it was probably like

01:44:00.840 if i have to guess because i don't remember it's been so long it was probably like maybe like every

01:44:08.480 like two three months or something like that it was you know like i said it was very annoying and

01:44:13.300 then then it's just like it's just less like less frequent less frequent less frequent until

01:44:19.120 then it gets to like once or twice a year and then it's just like right now it's like i said

01:44:24.260 it's been years and would you say it killed your dating life like you basically had no dating life

01:44:30.580 after 100 yeah it's just you know like i said i try to be honest to you know like with the way

01:44:37.040 that chick reacted it was just like enough for me to like fuck this you know i'm just way too

01:44:42.080 embarrassed about it.

01:44:44.680 Just put it that way.

01:44:46.920 Well, there's a lot of girls with it nowadays.

01:44:50.180 You know.

01:44:50.660 Yeah, that's true.

01:44:53.380 All right.

01:44:54.220 Doug MP, you got any other questions for him?

01:44:56.960 No, that's it.

01:44:58.260 Really appreciate you sharing your story, buddy.

01:45:00.480 Thanks for calling in.

01:45:01.200 Yeah, thanks for calling in.

01:45:03.040 All right.

01:45:03.680 Yeah, guys, have a good one.

01:45:05.260 All right.

01:45:07.960 I'm going to bring up another new name

01:45:10.480 and then we can go back to some of the OGs real fast.

01:45:17.280 Jamie.

01:45:19.500 Hey, what's up?

01:45:20.620 You guys hear me?

01:45:21.480 I can hear you.

01:45:23.600 I hear an echo.

01:45:25.400 Is it playing?

01:45:27.400 Go ahead.

01:45:27.960 Do you hear an echo, Doug, MPA?

01:45:29.520 I do.

01:45:31.540 Do you have YouTube playing in the background?

01:45:33.820 Yeah, let me turn it off real quick.

01:45:36.540 All right.

01:45:37.260 How about now?

01:45:38.500 Okay, better.

01:45:40.480 Yeah, I used to work at a STD clinic in the Bay Area.

01:45:44.080 No way.

01:45:45.540 Oh, yeah, I worked for, like, a year or two, about two years.

01:45:50.580 My experience is that it's mostly a lot of gay men have HIV.

01:45:57.200 In the world, basically, there's a lot of gay men in the Bay Area to go with that.

01:46:02.460 But the stories are crazy on how people would get them.

01:46:05.360 You'd hear all kinds of, like, stories on some people would get.

01:46:08.940 and when it comes to h or hsv one and two um a lot of hsv one a lot of hsv two i guess um

01:46:18.960 the thing that i got was weird was that um a lot of the women that had hsv two they would tell

01:46:26.640 their partners or their future partners and a lot of the men were like that's fine that's fine

01:46:31.780 and they would tell me like so the guys were like i don't know if they're simping or they're just

01:46:36.080 desperate or the because the women that did tell me that a lot of them were really hot

01:46:40.480 really attractive and um from my experience also that when you have uh hsv2 you can shed

01:46:50.240 which is you're shedding the virus like you could shed like a week or two before you actually

01:46:54.140 start feeling symptoms or showing symptoms so it's so the people that you think don't have it

01:47:01.120 may have it so it's hard to um tell if someone has it and a lot of the std testing in california

01:47:09.600 they don't test for hsv1 or hsv2 they'll do the other stuff the chlamydia the the hiv the um i

01:47:16.460 forget gonorrhea um all that but they won't really test for it and they say it's just so

01:47:21.460 damn prevalent in california with the hsv1 and 2 and do you think the women that had have it were

01:47:28.860 they like would you say they were more attractive women um like just across the board go ahead yeah

01:47:36.540 in general okay in general it was really it was the really hot women um i i have a question

01:47:45.180 if this is doug mpa's question not pearl's question

01:47:50.380 how many how many other women that came into your clinic were black women

01:47:54.860 um the one that was that came in a lot she was actually she had hiv really cool lady though

01:48:02.240 super cool lady um but it it was mostly the one that i saw i lived in where i worked at i'm not

01:48:11.820 going to say where um it was mostly gay white men older men it wasn't really a lot of young men

01:48:17.340 um the young men that did come in they were it wasn't i can't say the worst they were like the

01:48:24.320 damn the horniest like it was just i remember a couple of a couple came in and then a week later

01:48:29.920 they're fighting with each other two young men because one was cheating and they were both

01:48:34.540 one came in a week after that and he was looking green's hands were had pustules i think he had

01:48:39.580 gonorrhea for like a long time and he was just really in bad shape and he couldn't stop having

01:48:46.480 sex and then this other guy um i'm not gonna say it's an ethnicity or anything he was actually

01:48:52.940 hivy positive and hep c positive and he would come in and then a month later he'd come in and

01:48:58.700 he had chlamydia in his in his anus and in his throat and they tell him to stop having sex and

01:49:03.740 he and then he wouldn't he would just come in like three months later he'd be infected again

01:49:09.100 it's just it just was just nonsense and it was a young gay man and i felt bad for them but it's

01:49:13.500 just it's like it's hard for them to control i guess their sexual i don't know like they just

01:49:19.020 couldn't keep their pants on i guess um but the older men um they were just coming in for their

01:49:27.340 regular schedule uh visits you know every six months every it just depends how sick they were

01:49:31.900 on their viral load or basically the viral load is the amount of um hd virus you have in your system

01:49:39.100 and you check that like every i don't depends on how bad you are how sick you are um the medication

01:49:45.260 now is really really good um you can take the medication to where your hiv your your viral load

01:49:51.660 is so low where it's undetectable where you're you're testing negative uh with hiv but you have

01:49:57.500 to be i forget the name of it it's been a while how how often do they transmit it because i when

01:50:03.660 i was looking on chat gpt it was saying you're really not likely to get it if you hook up with

01:50:08.620 someone that has it but that seems um that seems wrong but i'm like i don't know it's from what i

01:50:16.700 remember in the studies is that um like vaginal intercourse it's pretty difficult to get it's when

01:50:22.960 you get into the the blood the blood on blood contact so anal sex is you have a lot of that

01:50:29.120 blood on blood contact that's also when you have hsv one and two there's sores there right so if

01:50:34.860 there's you have a higher chance of catching something because you actually have a wound so

01:50:40.240 something gets into that wound like disease like hiv or something else so that's why they say you

01:50:46.120 have you're at higher risk of getting hiv if you have hsv1 and hsv2 and you're having sex

01:50:50.940 so it's really like that blood on blood contact that's really the thing about it um but yeah

01:50:58.980 there's also like a tracking system in california once you have hiv you're tracked for the rest of

01:51:03.540 their life um through this through the state so if you're like say you're homeless or you leave

01:51:09.460 the state or you're in jail they have to like figure out where you're at so they can keep you

01:51:13.440 taking the medication to keep you below the hiv level the hiv viral loads where you can give it

01:51:18.980 to people so it's like um so if someone disappears they go to jail we have to find them figure out

01:51:24.780 where they're at and have them keep taking the medication and do most of them live like a normal

01:51:29.660 life now oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah they're taking their meds they have a normal life it used to be

01:51:36.340 like in the 80s the medication was so bad it was really tough on your on your liver and kidneys

01:51:42.280 um but the medication got it's gotten so good um that you don't have to worry about that unless

01:51:50.000 you're doing other drugs or you're an alcoholic or something like that so i think for doug's

01:51:54.220 question he was asking about um the herpes if like what percent were b-dubs um it was low for

01:52:01.260 more but i we i the where i worked at was a low it was pretty predominantly low um

01:52:07.180 african-american community okay that makes sense i couldn't tell you yeah it is the

01:52:12.780 were you like right in san francisco like right there yeah that's yeah that's really expensive

01:52:18.300 though so yeah exactly exactly if i worked in oakland i'm pretty sure you'd be holding different

01:52:22.460 stats yeah i would imagine okay so for the um the would you say that most i don't know if you even

01:52:30.540 like in your job did you did you even have a chance to talk to them about how honest they

01:52:36.700 were with the people they slept with i'm just curious if you had any information on how like

01:52:41.580 honest people are with it the the younger let me add to their one

01:52:47.180 I'll add to her question, not only pro's question, but did you have any like optional questionnaire questions about disclosure or how often they talk to their partners about what they have?

01:53:04.960 It's hard to say. I didn't see a lot of younger people there. I was mostly the older, older white men, but most of them, they actually had their own partners.

01:53:14.680 um when people did come in for random testing it was um you know did they just want to get their

01:53:21.160 HIV test you know no questions asked that kind of thing I there was questions of how many people

01:53:25.280 I slept with I remember one guy he was a cop and he says he just he forgot how many people he slept

01:53:30.540 with he just wanted to get tested um other people would come in just to um hey I need my what was

01:53:38.140 it my my warts burned off I need my warts taken care of like they actually had dinner to warts and

01:53:43.260 get treated and okay i'm i'm gonna go about my business even though they were positive they're

01:53:48.200 probably hpv positive which is a general warts which i think four of those types of general warts

01:53:55.500 can actually lead to um cancer um so it's it's for men it's really important if you if a woman has

01:54:03.480 hpv because the hv can you can get through a man can get throat cancer from hpv of those four

01:54:10.540 there's four variants there's like i don't even know there's like maybe 30 to 20 to 30 different

01:54:15.260 types of it's 16 18 the one you don't want right that's the no i forget it's at least maybe maybe

01:54:22.620 i forget how many are cancers but there's at least four or five that are cancers um see if chat gpt

01:54:29.260 says what strands of hpv give men throat cancer um i'm curious what anecdotally and

01:54:40.540 Maybe because there was a lot of gay guys, but like, what percent of women do you think have STDs, if you had to guess, based on your experience at the clinic?

01:54:52.900 A lot. A lot.

01:54:55.220 There's this other STD that I keep forgetting.

01:54:57.260 It's a, oh, there's this other one I forget.

01:55:02.460 Trichomonas, that one, like, damn near 80% of the women that came in for STD checks had that.

01:55:07.980 um what is that um it's it's hard to explain uh i haven't let's don't look it up so it's it's

01:55:17.000 they call it trick everybody calls it trick in in the clinic um we're talking about stuff that

01:55:24.140 we didn't even know about yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and it leaves like a like a like like a

01:55:30.280 stinky smell on a woman on a woman's the jj basically is one of the symptoms but yeah yeah

01:55:37.060 there's tons of maniasis yeah is a commonly sti caused by a parasite called

01:55:43.780 trichomonas vaginalis is typically spread through sexual contact is treatable with antibiotics

01:55:53.380 uh oh i'm looking at the pictures yeah it causes a foul smelling vaginal discharge exactly that's

01:56:01.120 the biggest symptom so you'll so yeah that big stink that's probably trick so that's so that's a

01:56:07.360 telltale sign hey i'm not going to go down on this lady girl because sometimes some guys are

01:56:12.500 desperate like i hear stories oh yeah you know i i even though it smelled i was still hitting it

01:56:17.420 you know because you know it's better to have a jj we know that type of you know mentality what

01:56:22.600 percent of guys do you think get herpes if they get into a relationship with a girl that has it

01:56:28.300 i just i don't know i just know a lot of the women that i that did come in with

01:56:34.680 hs me they would tell me like the guys wouldn't care because they were she was so hot and i'm

01:56:40.140 like what the like what do you mean didn't didn't care like they didn't want to put on a condom

01:56:44.220 like no they just they didn't want to put on a condom no they were all right with it which which

01:56:49.460 which was i'm like oh my god guys are that fucking desperate i know i'm sorry i know one guy that

01:56:55.420 didn't he said he hooked up with a girl that had it but to be fair he was like 57 50 i feel like

01:57:01.720 at that age they're like that's another thing like older people they don't they don't give an

01:57:06.020 f about those stds they're like i'm on i'm dying anyways i might i don't give a f no they like

01:57:10.840 nursing homes oh yeah i worked at a nursing home too and they're they're they're they're they're

01:57:16.220 hooking up they were hooking up big time big time um sorry hun yeah they're hooking up big time and

01:57:23.980 it's at a nursing home it's like well they're adults let them do you know unless they don't

01:57:29.180 have the mental capacity they're like well they can do what they want so it's that's another

01:57:34.240 where where did the warts come like if a guy's hooking up with a girl is there like is it

01:57:41.060 easily visible like the warts are they big some aren't um some show up like on genitalia or on

01:57:47.820 the side of the legs um on the penis it's it's there's different types i guess um they show

01:57:56.780 differently on different people too like different races it shows up on the skin differently it could

01:58:02.040 be a big old wart like on your hand but it could be small and little it could be a bunch of little

01:58:06.600 ones around the penis it's it's all kinds of it's it's yeah it's a huge variance i was just

01:58:11.800 ever seen you that one uh instagram referral with it's this woman she's in a salon like a waxing

01:58:21.880 salon and the wax lady's like that smell down there ma'am i i can't wax you she's like well

01:58:28.440 i just got out of the gym she's like that's not the gym you need to go to the doctor and she's

01:58:33.720 like well i can't believe you're not gonna give me i'm going on vacation tomorrow and she's like

01:58:38.440 ma'am i am not gonna wax you because you you you got a discharge down there and like it smells

01:58:44.040 gross and she's like i can't believe and she's trying to cuss the lady out laser i don't feel

01:58:47.960 comfortable giving you a wax you need to leave um i was just i was just curious if you think that

01:58:54.920 it's like easy to identify if you're hooking up with somebody like if a guy's hooking up with a

01:59:00.280 girl or vice versa if there's any like i don't know best practices places to look so you don't

01:59:05.800 catch anything just keep using condoms until you when you feel comfortable to take it off get get

01:59:12.040 the the std panel get the whole hsv one and two and all that before you even think about having um

01:59:19.640 oh that's my next question yeah like do you do you think the guy that said he told me he got herpes

01:59:26.360 from wearing even though he had a condom and they hooked up once do you believe him or no yeah yeah

01:59:32.200 you can shed on your legs but it's it's possible he could have um my gosh he probably could have

01:59:40.840 kissed her and she had it on her face well he said it was the second one not the first

01:59:46.040 um yeah the the the other thing too is that i think you can get hsv2 on your face too i'm not

01:59:54.340 sure yeah you can yeah so yeah they you kiss someone that has a hsv2 on their face and then

02:00:02.260 i think it can show up on your on your vaginal on your on your lower extremities i'm not sure on

02:00:07.740 that um but you can yeah um but there has been um i've read stuff where you can be shedding on

02:00:15.320 your you can because you can have hsv2 on your legs it doesn't necessarily have to be on your

02:00:20.080 genitalia it can be a next year genitalia basically or it can be on your arm it can

02:00:24.480 we've seen people have sores on their arms and it was hsv1 or hsv2 and if in in your experience

02:00:33.960 what like what percent of people that you came in that got stds were wearing a condom

02:00:39.700 if you if you know if you don't it's okay but i was just curious i couldn't tell you but i'm

02:00:47.060 pretty sure it's pretty low yeah it's pretty low um it says 16 is the most common cause of hpv

02:00:54.440 throat cancer in both men and women it's responsible for 90 of hpv cancers other high

02:01:01.240 risk types like 31 33 35 52 and 58 but these are much rarer forms of cancer but are sometimes found

02:01:08.500 i think 16 18 are the ones you don't want to get it could be it could be rare here but once you

02:01:14.000 start going to thailand or africa or you know then it changed it totally changes um even with aids

02:01:21.040 you can have a different variance of hiv there's like there's like a rare type of hiv or a different

02:01:27.120 type of hiv that the medications can't treat in africa like though that aids variance or hiv is

02:01:33.840 different from the one in the u.s because it mutates it's it's like the hiv from the 80s is

02:01:38.640 not the HIV from today. You know, it's one of my conspiracy theories.

02:01:43.840 Yeah. So, you know, the aspects of HIV that make it unlike any other virus.

02:01:50.000 I think the reason why it's the most prevalent in South Africa and Lesotho and all this, this is,

02:01:56.880 I can't prove this. This is just my, I honestly think that the South Africans came up with that

02:02:01.360 to try to get rid of the white South Africans during apartheid came up with that to

02:02:05.440 to try to get rid of the black population is out there who knows he was back yeah yeah

02:02:14.800 what was the average age of the women coming in with herpes oh the one

02:02:23.120 20s 20s 30s you know the oh yeah but a lot of the older women that would come in um

02:02:30.800 it was it was like it was totally normal to him because they've had it for years

02:02:35.520 that's that's the only thing I was like oh yeah it's part of my you know that

02:02:38.360 kind of thing it was just across the board but it's it's really just to say

02:02:44.800 it's there's a lot of people that have HSV and HSV 1 & 2 in California to say

02:02:51.520 the least what percent of attractive people do you think have herpes men and

02:02:56.040 women i couldn't tell you okay i'm just curious i like to ask people that work in the field so

02:03:02.040 i i just yeah a lot of people because i think a lot of people have it um yeah i i can't say

02:03:09.680 like i would say at least two out of ten at least have it okay i put it that put it in that context

02:03:17.660 cool okay so again you know see what's really going on so thank you for calling in we really

02:03:23.120 appreciate it no problem take care okay someone's got to nobody's you know it's like i haven't

02:03:34.760 really heard any show like i remember i'm like kevin i think that as women especially when they

02:03:41.380 smash past the wall uh they would if enough if they meet a guy that crossed off enough of their

02:03:48.860 boxes they would deal with anything short of maybe the high five yeah you know um okay avery

02:03:54.680 i'm glad no one wants to do me wisdom for the hsv take foods and herbs with um cumin um

02:04:03.420 quercetin and reservatrol i'm so sorry take lysine which blocks arginine which helps the

02:04:13.320 virus replicate and our genasi canceled out the agitine don't ask me how i know this okay this

02:04:21.220 incel audience allegations um spread knowledge not herpes yeah look i just i just felt this

02:04:32.520 we'll talk about it agree um okay although women i think we just want it we like we love playing

02:04:41.720 with fire so i think if like we might catch something it just makes it like i asked one

02:04:47.840 of the guys who had it i'm like your exes that were really into you do you think they'd hook up

02:04:52.320 with you even if you told them you had it he's like yup ah there you go i remember one of my

02:04:59.920 friends uh who's a woman she's all everything that we talk about she's in her mid-40s six figures

02:05:07.120 was a single mom now her kids out of the house and she was on Facebook dating of

02:05:13.420 all places and I'm just like what are you doing there and this really

02:05:16.900 attractive male nurse good-looking dude hits her up on there as she's like

02:05:21.580 they're talking and stuff he's like hey I'm a travel nurse I'm at this hotel

02:05:25.240 why don't you come there's a really nice restaurant in my hotel why don't you

02:05:29.860 come here Friday night and then you can stay the night the night you know that

02:05:34.180 night in my hotel room. And she's like, I can't believe he said that. And does that really work?

02:05:39.120 Of course it works. He wouldn't have tried it if it didn't. He said, because my friend,

02:05:44.600 she's very difficult where she's alone, but she doesn't know. She tries to say that she's happy

02:05:48.920 alone, but we all know she's not. And it's like, all you women, you're going to break sometime.

02:05:56.860 You're going to be like, okay, I'm here watching Scandal for the 10th time. This guy hit me up

02:06:02.660 on for a Friday night. What else am I doing? And I and this

02:06:07.820 woman, I don't know if who knows the last time she's actually

02:06:10.580 been with a man. So a lot of the women like you, you're gonna

02:06:13.640 break some time. So that guy probably sleeps with a whole

02:06:17.000 bunch of women just like you. And that guy probably has

02:06:19.580 something.

02:06:23.720 Oh, well, anyway. Okay, well, let's bring up four, five, six,

02:06:31.460 seven eight eric he always has his microphone messed up or maybe he's listening to the youtube

02:06:44.180 that he's delayed there he is what up eric you got herpes or not well not anymore what do you

02:06:54.660 not anymore yes you can't get rid of that what are you talking about well you know a moment ago

02:07:06.500 well actually after the past few minutes uh your youtube feed was totally roboting

02:07:13.540 so i was i was i was fighting that refreshing you know trying to get it to go back to normal

02:07:20.500 um but i guess we're okay now are we yeah you're good so um okay well the sun's going down so

02:07:28.900 there isn't a whole lot of lighting on my face which is probably like 11 more people on the

02:07:33.540 line and we just crossed the two hour okay well i'll be quick then um yeah back in 1982

02:07:42.580 you know i'm talking ancient history here uh

02:07:45.620 And there was a girl who worked in a restaurant, you know, right on the other side of the pier

02:07:54.900 where I lived with her.

02:07:58.620 And about 10 days later, I had a sore on my noodle.

02:08:06.760 I'm not sure what you can say on Facebook, but yeah, it was basically herpes.

02:08:11.880 and, you know, that stuff would erupt like every two or three months

02:08:19.940 and then it just dropped out altogether.

02:08:24.080 And, you know, I joined the military later and it never showed up again,

02:08:31.760 which I think was really strange.

02:08:33.660 I guess it's an immune system thing.

02:08:35.620 Um, but, uh, you know, the, uh, my, um, I ultimately, you know, I eventually got married

02:08:50.300 and I guess my, my wife at the time was, uh, you know, throwing the pussy at me almost every day.

02:08:59.880 And it didn't occur to me that she was trying to get pregnant.

02:09:02.920 and uh you know she uh she wound up getting a whole bunch of tests done and it turned out

02:09:13.120 she couldn't get pregnant because during her you know what do you call it her experimental phase

02:09:20.280 she had apparently caught chlamydia and it had completely destroyed her reproductive tract oh

02:09:27.940 my gosh yeah so her her eggs weren't even making it down her far enough to get fertilized how long

02:09:36.320 did she have chlamydia for i'm not sure i mean you know i married her when she was 21

02:09:43.180 um i'm guessing she was probably banging all the chads from like age 16 until then

02:09:51.420 um you know because yeah she was a horny man no doubt about it i mean you know she she loved

02:09:59.520 getting it on wow so she was infertile by the time she got to 21 she must have had because

02:10:05.320 from what i understand how long does chlamydia take to make you infertile did they not have

02:10:11.620 drugs for it back then yeah i don't know i mean okay you know i never bothered to follow up on it

02:10:19.260 And, you know, well, and that's not why I divorced her.

02:10:23.540 I mean, ultimately, after 14 years of marriage, I divorced her because she was so incredibly financially irresponsible, you know.

02:10:33.000 But, yeah, you know, before, even before I got exposed to herpes back in 1982,

02:10:42.260 well too um one of the worst things that ever happened to me

02:10:48.920 in terms of like communicable diseases was uh

02:10:54.260 there was a super athletic really attractive redhead in my apartment complex okay um

02:11:05.280 oh yeah yeah and we had a huge pool party there were like 20 people or more there

02:11:11.860 And although I wasn't able to detect it at the time, we wound up going back to my apartment.

02:11:25.120 And, you know, I went down on her because, you know, back then I was a full service guy.

02:11:31.220 And I wound up getting a yeast infection in both my inner ears.

02:11:38.700 It was the most painful thing.

02:11:40.840 Oh, my gosh.

02:11:42.440 I felt like my head was going to explode.

02:11:46.940 And, you know, it was really funny because I came back up here to the Verde Valley

02:11:55.020 because I didn't have any medical insurance.

02:11:57.640 I didn't have a doctor or anything.

02:11:59.160 My mom hooked me up with an appointment with a gynecologist up here in the Verde Valley.

02:12:05.520 and uh so there i am in the waiting room with like you know eight women aged like 18 to 30

02:12:17.960 and the reception is like okay so why are you here and i'm like do i really have to say this

02:12:25.600 out loud and uh i was like uh i was like well my ears are about to explode because uh apparently

02:12:33.920 have an infection in my inner ears and uh she's like how the fuck would you get a yeast infection

02:12:40.780 in your inner ears and i'm like honey do the math you know i'm a full service guy and last night was

02:12:48.860 an amazing time and now i'm paying for it you know i don't do it yeah well what was really funny is

02:12:58.260 you know it's like uh i got like smirky looks from the women in the waiting room like hey let

02:13:05.540 us know when you're good again because hey i'd like some of that action oh my god

02:13:10.620 it says it says you can get infertile from chlamydia in a year actually oh yeah so she

02:13:18.720 didn't get yeah so she didn't get tested for two she could yeah well the thing is chlamydia is not

02:13:24.560 this drug you know it's it's it's not a virus it's a it's a protest it's a single-celled organism

02:13:31.340 and you know like initially they're supposed to be like you know signs like you know a discharge

02:13:39.320 or whatever but if a woman blows that off it goes away and what it does then is it climbs up the

02:13:49.480 you know it propagates through the uterus goes up the fallopian tubes and essentially the fallopian

02:13:57.160 tubes become cords they're scar tissue they're close there's no way an egg's getting down through

02:14:03.560 there and uh yeah you know it's like uh so did she have the chlamydia infection like

02:14:11.320 was it active when she went and got to went to the doctor

02:14:14.400 well from what her from what my ex-mother-in-law told me uh she set up an appointment for her to

02:14:25.560 for her daughter to go to the doctor and instead of going to that appointment she packed up all

02:14:35.660 her shit and drove out to oklahoma to live with her dad so basically she went into denial and

02:14:43.280 she just let that infection propagate not knowing what it was going to do to her um 21 and infertile

02:14:52.080 i met a girl that got infertile from taking too many plan b's that was around the same age

02:14:57.200 you remember her dug mpa on the show yeah she had the green makeup on her eyes yeah that's so weird

02:15:04.240 yeah she was nice though yeah okay eric well well you know you can't i don't think you can really

02:15:11.920 judge people for the way microorganisms have their way with them because they're invisible you never

02:15:18.160 know when you're going to pick something like that up that's why you got to get regularly tested

02:15:23.360 though yeah well i mean the other thing is if you've been diagnosed with you know something

02:15:29.760 like that and you're still dating it's kind of kind of incumbent on you to let your date know

02:15:37.280 that you've got this or that medical history you know but uh

02:15:44.480 yeah it's a it's a wacky world man i would imagine okay we're gonna move to the next caller

02:15:52.160 thanks thanks for calling ed damn a yeast infection in his ears that's a while

02:15:57.840 yikes they will bring up damn he's really up there we're gonna bring up will

02:16:07.280 It was always a good call. Hey, Will, how you doing?

02:16:10.460 Good. How are you guys?

02:16:11.680 Good. What's up, Will? You got herpes or what?

02:16:14.860 No, fortunately not. Two quick points, but before we get to that, dude, how do you get a yeast infection in your ear?

02:16:21.720 You know, we're just going to move on. We're going to move on from now on.

02:16:25.480 Okay, we're just going to let that one go. Fair enough.

02:16:28.400 That's one of those where you don't know what's worse, the question having to be asked or the answer that you get.

02:16:33.740 So we're just going to move forward.

02:16:35.540 OK, well, I got two quick stories to support some earlier points.

02:16:38.700 OK, the first is about gay men.

02:16:42.900 When I was in college, I was in a fraternity

02:16:44.860 and we had a chef who was like a 50 year old gay guy.

02:16:49.340 And this was in San Francisco, by the way, just to set the context.

02:16:52.340 Of course it is.

02:16:53.620 So we're we're sloshed one night and we're like, my dude, level with me.

02:16:57.740 How many men have you been with?

02:17:00.580 And he pauses for a second.

02:17:01.940 He goes somewhere between three and five thousand.

02:17:06.040 And I was like, what, bro, can you run the math?

02:17:09.760 How does that work?

02:17:10.860 And he explained to us that every weekend, Saturday and Sunday, for a period of like one or two decades, he would go to a bathhouse and every night he would bang like three to six guys.

02:17:22.960 And sure enough, we ran the math and we're like, yeah, that's literally in the thousands.

02:17:26.580 so i didn't say anything because trying to be polite but in my brain i'm like

02:17:32.820 that's how aids happens like that's where that comes from just saying

02:17:37.560 and did he get it um i did not ask okay yeah i know sometimes i'll hear stories from guys and

02:17:48.480 i'm like there's no way you don't have something i'm like there's girls too but it's like okay so

02:17:56.020 what about, you know, that's actually, if I ever had Bonnie Blue on, that's what I'd want to ask

02:18:01.760 her about. But show me your test results. I don't believe you. Yeah, that's the thing. I'm not Bonnie

02:18:08.280 Blue, but the other one, you know who I'm talking about. The hundred guys chick. Yeah. I think she

02:18:13.840 was raw dogging them. Wasn't she? I don't think so. They're like, I saw after footage and there

02:18:18.900 was like a bunch of condoms on the floor. Oh, thank God. Okay. Cause that, that, I mean,

02:18:24.680 you don't want to be like a human petri dish that's not cool you're that way either way

02:18:29.560 yeah so um did you know anyone with herpes uh yeah i knew um my other cousin not cocaine cousin

02:18:40.040 but i have another cousin who's a stripper and she has herpes okay and how does she date does

02:18:45.640 she tell the people or no yeah she uses websites there's like special websites for herpes people

02:18:55.560 Okay, so she's actually honest about it.

02:18:58.120 Oh, good for her.

02:18:58.760 Well, sometimes.

02:18:59.980 I mean, she's in her 40s, but she's still kind of working the strip economy,

02:19:03.960 and I don't think she tells those guys.

02:19:06.100 In her 40s?

02:19:07.460 Well, she's Asian, right?

02:19:08.560 So she aged pretty well.

02:19:09.360 Oh, okay.

02:19:09.720 That'll do it.

02:19:10.860 That'll do.

02:19:13.880 Do you know anyone else with an STD or no?

02:19:17.800 Or like, have you ever dated girls and they told you they had one?

02:19:21.520 Actually, quick story about that.

02:19:22.980 Okay.

02:19:23.300 Um, so I was living in, you know, Bay Area and, um, I was like early thirties, um, I'm

02:19:28.800 six feet tall, pretty good with women.

02:19:30.820 There is an absolute ocean of mid women out there who are totally cool with you raw dogging

02:19:36.920 them.

02:19:37.600 Not saying I did it, but like they would not even bring up condoms.

02:19:43.280 A lot of them.

02:19:43.800 I was kind of flabbergasted.

02:19:48.360 And did any of them catch anything from those decisions or?

02:19:53.380 Well, I had a gal, I was with her a few times,

02:19:56.440 and then she called me up and basically went nuts

02:19:59.060 and accused me of giving her herpes.

02:20:03.040 And I was confused as hell because I'd been pretty responsible

02:20:05.900 and I was pretty darn sure I didn't have it.

02:20:09.280 But so for like three or four days, you know,

02:20:11.460 I went and I go get tested, I paid a hundred bucks,

02:20:14.600 and it takes a few days to get the results.

02:20:16.400 For those two days, I'm sitting there, I'm sweating,

02:20:19.220 and I'm like, oh my God, if I have herpes,

02:20:21.100 who the hell did I catch it? I'm trying to like do like the like the detective work in my brain

02:20:26.440 of like what is the sketchiest chick I banged? How long ago is that? Which other chicks happened

02:20:30.660 since then? You know what I'm saying? And so for three days I was freaking out only to have this

02:20:36.240 chick call me back and then be like oh never mind it wasn't it wasn't her. I'm like oh cool thanks

02:20:41.760 appreciate it. Dang so you like had a heart attack basically. Dude I was dying and I had like a

02:20:48.300 a couple of serious girlfriends during that time

02:20:50.920 that I had like, I'm like, oh my God,

02:20:52.900 am I gonna have to go to like Elizabeth and the other one

02:20:55.840 and tell her like, hey, by the way,

02:20:57.980 like, you know how we broke up on bad terms?

02:20:59.860 Well, there's one more thing you might wanna know.

02:21:02.700 It's like, no.

02:21:05.200 Damn.

02:21:08.180 Okay, so, but on date, how many like,

02:21:12.400 so you've never had a girl though on a date say she had it?

02:21:16.240 No, I mean, it's possible that some of them might have had it,

02:21:19.040 but I happen to know that, like, transmission rates from women to men are super low.

02:21:25.080 Yeah, that's true.

02:21:25.900 Like, this is the thing, too.

02:21:27.060 Like, the whole kind of, a lot of the info we're getting about STDs

02:21:32.780 is sort of obscured by this kind of cloud of political practice, right?

02:21:39.720 Like, the whole AIDS thing, they were trying to make it seem like,

02:21:41.920 oh, anyone could get AIDS, and it's like,

02:21:43.320 And it's kind of mostly gay guys.

02:21:45.460 And same thing with STDs, like normal stuff.

02:21:51.300 Like if you're a guy and you're mostly having sex with like middle to upper class women who are like white and Asian, you're probably okay.

02:22:02.560 You know what I mean?

02:22:03.060 Like you don't have to be too nuts about watching out, basically.

02:22:08.760 Yeah.

02:22:09.420 Okay.

02:22:09.980 Okay.

02:22:12.060 Cool.

02:22:12.660 Cool.

02:22:13.660 Cool.

02:22:14.660 That's pretty much it.

02:22:15.660 Doug MPA, you got anything else for him?

02:22:16.660 No.

02:22:17.660 Thanks for calling in.

02:22:18.660 We'll always get to hear from you.

02:22:19.660 Thanks, guys.

02:22:20.660 Thanks.

02:22:21.660 Thanks for calling in.

02:22:23.660 It's like the rain is on and off here.

02:22:27.660 Next up is Joker.

02:22:30.660 Are you there?

02:22:32.660 Hello.

02:22:33.660 Hey, Joker.

02:22:35.660 What's going on?

02:22:37.660 Yeah, I've been hearing, I'm sorry, with my voice, long story, but anyways, I'm a retired

02:22:45.960 independent duty corpsman in the Navy.

02:22:49.740 I'm a healthcare provider.

02:22:51.620 Okay.

02:22:51.900 And I work also as a physician assistant in the community.

02:22:58.580 There is, wow, there's so much information out there, and some of it is correct, some

02:23:06.000 is not uh that has been stated uh i mean like for example that if you are hooking up with

02:23:15.200 uh you know upper class white females uh you're probably okay no no no no no i was thinking the

02:23:23.280 same thing that is incorrect uh you know it's i mean i can tell you stories of crap that i saw

02:23:31.600 and i get a couple of people in the on the chat that are i guess prior service and they can agree

02:23:37.200 with this because they will know how it goes especially if they're ever going on deployment

02:23:41.760 or on a ship my goodness when they come home the sd clinic is just over books give it about a week

02:23:53.520 and they're done most commons as usually chlamydia chlamydia and gonorrhea

02:24:04.480 sometimes herpes uh is you know it depends if uh if because somebody can literally have herpes

02:24:12.880 for a whole year i have no noticeable symptoms because of the way uh it shows up

02:24:23.520 For example, you get sores inside the vagina, and you have no sex, no contact.

02:24:33.260 You can literally have an outbreak and be unaware of it because urine doesn't come through it, so it doesn't get irritated.

02:24:46.580 So it is possible.

02:24:48.020 Now, with chlamydia, also, there's two things.

02:24:54.300 Usually, if you have chlamydia, you have something called mycoplasma, which is, we call it nongoncoccal

02:25:04.860 urethritis, and sometimes they go hand-to-hand.

02:25:08.820 and also on that one the symptoms are very similar and because you can go to a clinic

02:25:21.320 and get tested for STDs and because you're not testing for

02:25:31.760 microplasma

02:25:34.060 the microplasma

02:25:35.880 it will not come

02:25:37.720 because microplasma is a virus

02:25:39.520 versus the other one is not

02:25:41.340 so

02:25:43.420 and it's not something that

02:25:44.840 you check

02:25:46.240 you know

02:25:46.960 you make it a standard

02:25:48.740 that's why in the military

02:25:50.740 when somebody

02:25:52.000 pass positive with

02:25:53.640 an STD

02:25:54.820 we automatically hit you with

02:25:57.060 several antibiotics

02:25:58.500 just to cover your bases

02:26:00.040 also go ahead that's also on hiv anybody it's not just gay guys that used to be the case how

02:26:11.620 your region is you know got promulgated nowadays it doesn't matter because you could have a what

02:26:19.580 we call you know these guys that like to go both ways yeah and go with a woman and give it to her

02:26:27.020 Now, HIV, nobody will ever die of HIV.

02:26:33.020 Problem is when HIV turns into AIDS,

02:26:36.020 because HIV is just a state of carrying the virus.

02:26:41.020 AIDS is when it wakes up.

02:26:44.020 You can die.

02:26:45.020 As a matter of fact, I have a personal story on that.

02:26:49.020 My brother, who is gay, didn't want to listen to my advice,

02:26:55.020 listen to my advice, they don't want to at least take care, you know, I guess it will

02:26:58.260 go, oh, another misconception that HIV is curable, so therefore, it doesn't matter.

02:27:09.960 No, it's not curable.

02:27:10.860 You can take medications that blocks the promulgation of the virus to get it to a point that it's

02:27:19.360 undetectable but if you stop taking that medication it comes back and in some you know in some

02:27:26.240 countries that treatment is so expensive that's why people die of AIDS a lot in Africa that's

02:27:33.120 unfortunately a sad truth uh but my case my brother you know he wouldn't stop having unprotected sex

02:27:41.520 and last year gave me a call crying because he developed into AIDS and last night he called me

02:27:49.560 that he wants to see me because uh he's very sick because of it because AIDS what it does

02:27:57.420 is shuts off your immune system so anything including a bad call can kill you

02:28:05.020 how old is he and did you say he's gay yes he's gay okay i believe you know i'm i'm i'm not you

02:28:13.540 know i'm completely i'm not you know i don't approve of it but you know he's my brother

02:28:19.220 tried to give him advice i mean it doesn't matter i wasn't going to be able to uh how old is he

02:28:25.380 talk him off of him he's 58. well so he actually made it pretty old without getting it right yeah

02:28:33.040 Yeah, and he's got a bad case of hepatitis, and because he has no immune system, it's

02:28:43.860 become complicated, and he's in the hospital.

02:28:47.540 So, yeah, you can die from it.

02:28:50.900 Okay, and so you said you worked at an STD clinic in the military?

02:28:54.660 No, no, no.

02:28:55.100 Did you hear that right?

02:28:55.540 In the military, you have doctors, physician assistants, independent duty corpsmen, nurses, and then corpsmen in the Navy.

02:29:11.700 Our training is above a nurse practitioner, and we're just below a PA.

02:29:21.040 the reason we're not a PS is because the way we developed is the military needed to send a

02:29:28.420 provider to the front lines but it is illegal to send somebody a provider to the front lines

02:29:33.960 because you know you cannot carry a rifle it goes against the Geneva Convention so the Navy

02:29:40.440 circumvented that by the medical corpsman but yes by sending well a corpsman is no longer a

02:29:47.360 non-combatant now you're considered a combatant okay so yeah what they've done is they send a

02:29:53.300 senior corpsman to medical school did you then right before you graduate it's okay i don't that's

02:30:00.460 okay i don't need all the details i just know but anyways uh you know i'm a healthcare provider

02:30:09.060 yeah so did you say you got herpes uh and you didn't have symptoms for a year is that we

02:30:18.260 no no no no herpes herpes you can literally have it without it here i mean i had couples come in

02:30:25.620 you know young couples angry at each other because they uh they wanted to blame each other

02:30:32.020 oh for giving it and yeah but the problem is because it can literally you can go a whole year

02:30:39.400 in some instances and not know it or sometimes not even have an outbreak so what percent what

02:30:45.700 in your experience out of 10 people that get herpes how many have outbreaks right away

02:30:51.180 and how many um it's prolonged like they don't get it right away

02:30:55.500 the ones that don't get it right away uh pretty pretty small percentage okay so the ones that

02:31:03.240 get it is anywhere within seven seven like a week to a month in my interviews that was pretty

02:31:11.020 consistent in what they said too so like most people i interviewed it was pretty yeah yeah and

02:31:16.840 that's unfortunately the fact in young couples like that i would have to counsel them say you

02:31:20.640 what because of that i mean it's kind of because the the girl was that was her first boyfriend

02:31:31.440 but the boyfriend was really pissed because he thought he gave her and you know i thought i

02:31:37.200 talked to her and then you know one-on-one and you know and she was pretty straightforward and

02:31:43.440 he could have got it from a girlfriend that probably she had many guys give it to him

02:31:50.720 that have received it for a year and then give it to her and then boom she has an outbreak

02:31:56.800 dang so in those cases you gotta kind of be a little a little cautious because you don't

02:32:02.720 want to put blame because it can happen unfortunately also here's the thing 90 of

02:32:10.240 population has hsv1 it used to be considered nested in no longer now you can have a really

02:32:19.840 bad case of edge of one and go down on a woman and guess what and then it goes because yeah

02:32:28.720 because now you have those really bad open source which people think they're oh it's just a cold

02:32:34.000 or no such thing as a cold sore you know sometimes when people are gonna get them they feel sick

02:32:40.480 like they're about to get a cold and you know and then it comes up that's why they call it

02:32:48.880 fever blisters so if a guy if a guy or a girl are dating and they know they're going to be sexually

02:32:56.960 active are there any ways to really prevent like other than like obviously wear a condom but is

02:33:03.600 there anything further people can do in your perspective all other than being honest and

02:33:13.200 yeah but people are gonna lie so let's not you know now if and if both want to be uh very

02:33:20.400 up front with somebody they can both have uh an std uh you know go to go get it tested

02:33:30.160 but people aren't going to do that so like i'm just saying realistically people have to respect

02:33:34.880 themselves though i mean i personally if i don't know the person i won't i won't do it

02:33:41.280 somebody that is questionable i'll stay lucky yeah i understand but i'm saying

02:33:48.480 pragmatically what's going on now is people are hooking up first to third day

02:33:52.160 yeah so i'm just asking if there's things they should look for when they're hooking up or if

02:33:59.480 they see a like a certain something they should stop okay if there's like if there's you know

02:34:04.980 showering after does that help like what what are your do you have any just working in health

02:34:09.980 really not uh but what can help is uh you know if you are because i always say you know what

02:34:21.700 i'm sorry but if you can if you can't put it in your mouth you shouldn't you shouldn't put it

02:34:26.740 in your genitals and you know pretend like you're gonna go down and if there's a

02:34:33.040 really funky smell maybe you should not do it other than that uh because there there's uh

02:34:44.140 two or you know like for example the trigon the trigomonas that can give you a really foul smell

02:34:50.700 really foul smell okay bacterial machinosis can also give you a horrible smell uh but the

02:34:59.780 the one for three components my god that i mean it's pretty foul okay horrible foul

02:35:06.820 okay so oh and if you see a like a wattish thick discharge you know you might want to

02:35:16.560 you know you might want to kind of like you know maybe put on a condom okay white thick

02:35:23.560 disc okay if it's uh that's how clear frothy kind of like kind of like clear but he's got

02:35:30.240 like bubbles in it you might want to put a condom okay okay because that's usually what

02:35:36.640 that's good best practices go ahead you know because that's usually what uh trichomonas

02:35:42.740 looks like and when you have uh trichomonas you could uh you could also have chlamydia which

02:35:53.220 you know is in a percentage of women have no symptoms yeah don't ask me why

02:36:03.860 when i've pulled chlamydia is the most common one i've gotten back that people have gotten

02:36:08.980 when i when i pulled but yeah go ahead and chlamydia uh oh no our chlamydia can also

02:36:19.700 oh i'm sorry when you have chlamydia you should always take uh the uh michael mycoplasma

02:36:30.740 infection because it's a virus because they tend to go hand to hand you know it's just it's just

02:36:37.620 the way it is but okay there's all the things that you have to worry about for example nobody's

02:36:44.340 talked to talked about something called molluscum contagiosum oh what and molluscum contact useum

02:36:52.420 okay okay uh i i i thought i thought in the chat it's called uh let me see

02:36:59.060 molluscum you can just look for molluscum

02:37:06.020 it's kind of like like like when you talk about like uh uh shellfish you start kind of like some

02:37:13.540 of them are molluscum or mollusk it's kind of molluscum contagious and those are like this this

02:37:20.180 little uh outbreak they're like this pearly outbreak with this with a hollow center i was

02:37:31.200 like a like you have to look at it and when you get it man you'll know it because if you scratch

02:37:38.940 it it bleeds a lot and wherever that blood goes new ones come out within a couple of days so

02:37:45.920 Best thing is not to touch it

02:37:47.780 Go see a doctor

02:37:48.580 If it gets really bad

02:37:50.100 I googled that one

02:37:51.980 That is disgusting

02:37:53.180 You looked at it?

02:37:54.840 Oh yeah

02:37:56.020 I had it once

02:37:59.320 And I tell you

02:38:01.900 And there's no

02:38:04.200 Antibiotics that you can take

02:38:06.200 This is a local topical treatment

02:38:08.080 That you got

02:38:09.420 Get it from a girlfriend

02:38:10.500 That you know

02:38:13.640 and uh so i didn't see anything from her but i i guess she had a tiny little one and boom there

02:38:20.360 it goes but then once they go away they go away okay okay i mean well anything any questions you

02:38:27.880 guys want to ask i mean um i think we covered attractive people for some reason and we talked

02:38:36.440 to this in the clinic our theory is because what we saw was usually that

02:38:45.880 whenever we had a very attractive woman coming in they have more than one form of std and the reason

02:38:54.360 is women by its nature they tend to be a little more cautious on when it comes to sex

02:39:01.720 and you usually see a very attractive woman with a medium to a very attractive man

02:39:12.940 and those men are the ones that are getting laid a lot

02:39:16.740 and they unfortunately some of them tend to cheat and what we saw in the navy is

02:39:24.680 the ship will go six months later they'll come in to port and then within a week

02:39:31.820 we'll have the wives and a lot of them were very attractive the ones that had acds because of the

02:39:40.580 husbands right a lot of them because they went to thailand did you see attractive people coming in

02:39:47.380 more than like medium people attractive people the i was just wondering because my thought process

02:39:54.320 was if the hottest girls

02:39:55.900 are banging the hottest guys

02:39:57.140 and they probably have more STDs.

02:39:58.940 Yeah, that's what I was saying.

02:39:59.620 You know, they usually have somebody

02:40:01.860 and it's usually because of the guy.

02:40:05.320 It's usually not the woman,

02:40:07.100 which is, I'd say usually,

02:40:09.100 it doesn't exclude them,

02:40:09.980 but that's what usually happens.

02:40:12.280 Okay.

02:40:14.560 Let me see, what other facial decisions?

02:40:17.780 Let me see.

02:40:18.440 I mean, I have cases in which

02:40:23.000 people will try to convince their wives that uh and wanted me to agree with that they got it from

02:40:30.660 sitting on a on a toilet like the old wives tale and i'd be like looking at him like

02:40:36.300 you got to give him credit for trying though right yeah did you help him out did you help him out

02:40:44.580 here's a funny story okay had a marine came me um came to the clinic

02:40:57.380 he goes in he's like doc you gotta help me you gotta help me i've never done this

02:41:03.140 but my wife went home for 30 days and i went to the club and you know i was too drunk blah blah

02:41:09.540 like okay all right you give me a little bit of that but just whether it's true or not you're

02:41:14.900 still going to treat him and you and so and uh you know he got treated

02:41:22.420 taken care of two months later wife goes back home for another 30 days

02:41:29.700 he comes back for the same crap all right so now i'm like okay i have to consult this guy

02:41:36.020 like be stern with them that put rank on him all right he goes he does it again in three more months

02:41:46.900 jesus he comes saying like my wife's gonna get i'm like okay no problem i'll take care of you so

02:41:57.700 i added to uh because you can uh some medications you know some of these

02:42:04.180 things you can treat them with

02:42:06.040 just plain penicillin.

02:42:09.040 So I made sure I got the

02:42:10.640 penicillin, the gel,

02:42:13.320 that thick thing that leaves you

02:42:14.920 like a golf ball in your butt for

02:42:16.660 like freaking three weeks.

02:42:19.520 And then I found

02:42:20.680 I, instead of

02:42:22.820 using the regular needle, I

02:42:24.740 adopted the biggest freaking needle I could find.

02:42:26.900 Like a freaking harpoon.

02:42:29.680 Wow!

02:42:31.020 Boom! Got him!

02:42:32.520 The guy turned

02:42:34.300 Ashi pale

02:42:36.100 The guy was, you know, black

02:42:37.460 Man, he almost turned Eskimo white

02:42:40.740 Guess what?

02:42:43.280 He never came back to the clinic

02:42:44.320 Yeah, because he didn't want to go through that again

02:42:47.620 Oh, no, no

02:42:48.640 He was cured

02:42:49.820 He was cured

02:42:51.220 Because, how do you say?

02:42:53.620 14-gauge needle

02:42:54.560 If you look at a 14-gauge needle

02:42:56.980 I mean, that's why you're using

02:42:59.300 Trauma cases

02:43:00.580 that you need a large

02:43:02.680 bore

02:43:03.120 fluids and you put it in the neck

02:43:07.080 they look like half the

02:43:08.900 size of a pencil. Man, I was

02:43:11.000 I was aiming for

02:43:12.220 more ridiculous on that one.

02:43:15.180 He just never came back

02:43:17.000 after that.

02:43:19.200 But I mean

02:43:20.220 We're getting close to

02:43:22.840 wrapping up the show because we're almost

02:43:24.680 at the three hour mark, but thank you for calling in, Joke.

02:43:26.780 We really appreciate it. Thanks for all the knowledge.

02:43:28.940 it's always good to talk to medical providers

02:43:30.940 no problem

02:43:31.640 if you ever hit that same subject

02:43:34.580 let me know

02:43:35.520 we are going to do more shows on different

02:43:38.880 STDs so today's herpes

02:43:41.100 and HIV but we'll have more

02:43:43.200 don't worry

02:43:43.940 sounds good

02:43:46.920 bless you guys

02:43:48.780 bye

02:43:49.260 all these knowledgeable people on here

02:43:52.520 I know I love it when people in the clinics call in

02:43:55.340 because they just

02:43:56.540 they have the

02:43:57.280 they see so much more you know like they're gonna have you know i interviewed like

02:44:03.460 uh maybe five six people i have to think through it but

02:44:08.260 you know they they see six people a day you know what i mean at least the clinic people yeah i

02:44:18.360 mean they're gonna no no no it's more than that are you crazy i said at least six people a day

02:44:25.080 so just so you know in the um in the private sector at a doctor's office

02:44:31.960 i know you'll see 20 people a day yeah i know i know i was saying i was i was just doing the

02:44:36.360 comparison is like they get more thing in a day than i do cool it we're coming up on

02:44:47.480 two hours 45 minutes do you want to take more callers we have one two three three more people

02:44:53.400 on the line sure we can take another okay uh i've never seen

02:45:00.680 let's just try to um wrap them up like not like just do smaller or sorry michael's coming in

02:45:12.920 michael is connecting his audio we're gonna do four minutes or less

02:45:17.240 with all the remaining callers what up michael you got herpes

02:45:20.520 his audio is connecting connecting to audio what a way to start the call right i just feel like

02:45:29.480 let's get right to it who's got it is it you or someone you know okay michael's audio is connecting

02:45:38.120 going once going twice going three times and back in the waiting room and let's see gary

02:45:50.520 coming in Gary are you there oh hey Gary how's it going good your audio sound

02:46:04.640 audio is kind of bad

02:46:05.600 can you hear me now

02:46:09.380 no it's still kind of scratchy

02:46:11.740 oh boy

02:46:13.340 is that any better

02:46:15.240 not at all

02:46:16.860 we're gonna have to drop you and you figure it out

02:46:20.300 alright

02:46:20.700 and last but not least we have our good friend

02:46:24.020 Brad

02:46:24.660 hey Brad how you doing buddy

02:46:31.380 hey nice to talk to you guys again

02:46:33.980 How's it going, Brad? Do you got the gift that keeps on giving?

02:46:39.400 Well, as far as I know, I'm herpes free. But, you know, like so many people out there have said, they don't necessarily get disclosure.

02:46:46.140 So I was married faithfully on my end for over 30 years.

02:46:50.860 And I didn't find out until we were a couple of years into the marriage and we were expecting our first child that when she went to the OBGYN, they put her on a high risk pregnancy rating.

02:47:02.920 What the heck is that all about? Well, apparently they're under no need or no push to disclose even to a husband that there is, you know, potentially something, an STD or something going on down there.

02:47:18.420 So apparently she had one of the forms of HPV, and it was noticeable to the doctors that she had something called cervical dysplasia, which I had no idea what that was about, and nobody was forthcoming as far as information, as far as what that is.

02:47:36.020 But it's the other viral thing that's HPV as opposed to the HSV one or two.

02:47:44.760 And it results in warts and sores and some things like that, which, you know, can make you susceptible to some of the other things.

02:47:52.840 So that was one area.

02:47:55.440 Then the other thing was further along into the marriage around our 25th anniversary, she carried on a secret affair with a guy where she managed in spite of still having two kids living at home.

02:48:06.020 to arrange to go grocery shopping and shopping in town and be gone for four hours and hook up

02:48:10.600 with a guy on the other end of town and was carrying on a secret affair that none of us

02:48:15.420 in the family had a clue about for almost two years. And when she, when I finally caught them

02:48:21.460 in the act, I, she, you know, I said, you know, I just realized you, you weren't using any

02:48:30.060 protection, were you? I mean, this, who knows what this, this guy you're with. I mean, you just

02:48:33.680 assumed. He's free and clear, but you know, who knows what he's got? Do you need, before we get

02:48:39.760 back into bed ever again, because we were talking about reconciling. Not that I wanted to simp,

02:48:46.100 but we had 25 years invested in it and four kids behind us. And, you know, I was willing to,

02:48:51.640 you know, still give it a shot if, if she was. So yeah, it never occurred to her. It was like

02:48:59.080 the light bulb went, you could literally see the light bulb light up over her head, like in

02:49:03.620 cartoon it was like oh oh yeah oh yeah so she then went in to the doctor to get tests run you know

02:49:10.980 and up until that time it was like you know hands hands and everything else off because who knows

02:49:15.460 what i was subjected to so uh did she come back clean or no yeah she did come back clean which

02:49:24.500 amazed me because one of the things that was kind of like a side benefit if you can believe it

02:49:29.700 of the aftermath of the affair was that, you know, she still was not in a position financially yet

02:49:38.420 if I'd kicked her to the curb to make it on her own. So she still had a vested interest in,

02:49:43.760 you know, trying to make nice with me so that, you know, I would keep her,

02:49:48.100 keep a roof over her head and keep her supplied with the dailies. So she also at that point had

02:49:53.860 nothing morally to lose because all the pretenses she'd been making about being such a good girl

02:49:58.500 kind of went out the window. So I inquired further into her past. I knew she'd been active in her

02:50:04.280 teens and she admitted to me she never used contraception, never used protection. I don't

02:50:09.360 know how that girl went through all the years of high school and up until we got married

02:50:13.380 without catching something. But apparently she did catch HPV. Fortunately, it doesn't seem like

02:50:19.280 she got anything worse than that. Well, when they're younger, they can fight it off easier.

02:50:26.200 so if she had a ho phase in like high school you're less likely to well there's I think you're

02:50:33.060 more likely to get it because they have more STDs like I think people use protection more when they

02:50:38.460 get older but but the the girls have stronger immune systems when they're younger if that

02:50:45.240 makes sense so like if she was in shape like sometimes they can just fight it off well you

02:50:51.360 going back you know i've mentioned before i've been on uh on your talk line before uh going back

02:50:57.360 into the 70s there was a lot of promiscuity going on um and so you know there was a girl in my class

02:51:02.640 that had to leave early because she was pregnant and we did have people that the big thing back

02:51:07.680 then was syphilis and gonorrhea which was absolutely nasty and there were cases where

02:51:13.520 people get tagged with that um so i'm not sure i mean i just you know i just marveled at the fact

02:51:19.760 that it wasn't we didn't wind up having to deal with anything worse but it never occurred to her

02:51:24.560 even as a husband you know of a wife that you know she could potentially by her fooling around

02:51:29.760 bring something home that i didn't ask for how how old was she when she was pregnant like how old

02:51:36.240 was she when she got the hpv well let's see we got married um based on where the months of our

02:51:41.840 our birth years fall. She was 20 and I was 21. Oh, wow. She had HPV that early? I heard you don't

02:51:51.140 get, because I spoke to a doctor about HPV and they said mid to late 30s is usually when women

02:52:00.460 get that. So if she had that at 21, she must have started early. She ran through a bunch of people.

02:52:06.260 I mean, originally, you know, there was not a lot of disclosure and because I thought I knew her

02:52:10.880 off and on from the time we were in our preteens that I had a pretty good idea who she was.

02:52:16.980 But I, you know, we went to two different high schools. And so her group of people she

02:52:21.920 circulated with were not directly connected to mine. And I didn't have a constant eye on her.

02:52:27.000 So I had no idea. She was very, very promiscuous. And I didn't find out until later a little bit

02:52:33.820 more detail once we were married. And she felt like she didn't have anything to lose by giving

02:52:39.260 me much more disclosure and details and that it would actually maybe help her situation because

02:52:46.940 you know i could have kicked her to the curb at that point and said hey look i'm going to divorce

02:52:49.900 you on the grounds of of unfaithfulness and then she wouldn't have a leg stand on and that she

02:52:54.860 wasn't ready for that so but i did have two friends when i was coming up in the 80s right

02:52:59.980 after we got out of school one was about 10 years older than me so he was in his early to mid 30s

02:53:04.620 and he drove a limo for a living. And he got, it went back in those days, like your previous

02:53:10.160 caller mentioned, it didn't hang around as HIV. It went straight into full-blown AIDS. And these

02:53:16.620 guys, they lost weight. You could see physically how the body was like deteriorating from the

02:53:22.480 inside out. And then, you know, one day they were no longer in the public eye. And the other one

02:53:27.940 was, he was a fellow I went to high school with. He was a classmate. His family and I were good

02:53:33.040 friends i was close with his parents and his older brother and they moved him out of the hospital

02:53:38.120 during the end of his life into a hospital bed downstairs in what used to be the family den

02:53:42.700 and had like a miniature hospital room set up for him there and he literally wasted away i mean his

02:53:48.100 eyes clouded over like he had glaucoma his cheeks sunk in were they both gay see that's the thing

02:53:54.840 they were both buried oh now the younger one yeah the younger one said his wife would was his wife

02:54:02.400 went off in a storm because she said she tested after he was diagnosed with it, and she was

02:54:09.180 tested with full-blown AIDS. And so it was basically like, you've killed me, and I don't

02:54:14.360 blame her. She wouldn't talk to him ever again. So in that circumstance, the claim was that he

02:54:20.880 was the one that contracted it. We don't know in either case, because they were both supposedly

02:54:27.320 publicly they were straight men with wives whether they were on the down low by curious or having

02:54:34.320 gay sex on the side or whether they contracted it from a woman like would you guess were they

02:54:41.720 fruity or no no not really I mean they were of course back in those days especially you know we

02:54:47.920 had expressions like smear the queer and bag the fag I mean if anybody even seemed like you gotta

02:54:53.800 watch the language man you can't drop that f word which one the f or oh the f i'm sorry about don't

02:55:01.240 ever say that okay okay i get it i forget we're in different times and it's just and the q word

02:55:07.800 don't say that either the q word okay well so we had those two uh inappropriate expressions back

02:55:13.640 then um and i don't support the use of them and i know this channel doesn't um but it just goes to

02:55:19.480 show the hostility that was openly out there in those days and people got beaten up even on the

02:55:24.120 suspicion of something like that so any conversation you know that might have revealed something along

02:55:30.040 those lines was very very very guarded yeah okay cool well thanks for calling in and telling us

02:55:36.280 the stories i appreciate it absolutely you all have a good night and thanks again yeah you too

02:55:41.000 always good talking to you buddy i'm gonna read the super chats okay um these people are at parties

02:55:48.360 or hanging out with someone who knows nothing about their sex life.

02:55:52.360 Percent of the population is a false statement.

02:55:54.360 If you see a hot woman who's promiscuous, she is that percent.

02:55:58.360 Whether she's one out of 20 or one out of four, all these people are loners.

02:56:02.360 Oh, actually, when you're talking about the bi guys,

02:56:05.360 I don't know if I told you this story before.

02:56:07.360 When I was single, I was on a dating app,

02:56:11.360 and I matched with a guy at my gym.

02:56:14.360 but I just, I just unmatched him because I don't know. I like looked closer at the profile and like him in person. I just changed my mind. I was like, no. And anyways, long story short, I was working out at the gym and someone, I never talked to him like in person. Like we just matched on the app for a day. Unmatched. That was it. And I'd never spoken to him in person, but someone I knew introduced me to him a different day. And they're like, oh, and that's his boyfriend. And I was like, oh my God, that's how women get aged.

02:56:44.360 I was like, oh my god

02:56:46.860 Yeah, 100%

02:56:48.700 Yeah, because I was like, why are you on Bumble?

02:56:52.400 Alright, hi pro

02:56:53.200 So a condom doesn't cover the base of the twig

02:56:56.860 Or the berries, which is the area that gets the most

02:56:58.960 Friction and grinding, so don't risk it

02:57:01.360 Well, everyone's got to risk it to some extent

02:57:04.860 If you're going to be celibate forever

02:57:06.380 That's the thing, I know a lot of women

02:57:08.480 Disqualify bisexual men

02:57:11.100 As they should

02:57:11.860 but a lot of guys who i wouldn't care if my girls by i'm not down for that either man

02:57:16.100 no anyone that has that weird kind of sexuality confusion fluid crap no thanks new um sorry

02:57:24.740 avery i'm i'm glad no one wants to do me um wisdom king for hsv take oh wait i read that already

02:57:32.780 is there any more callers

02:57:35.300 we have

02:57:38.860 Alex is the last

02:57:41.640 caller okay is that the guy that had

02:57:43.540 the audio issues no that's

02:57:45.500 Gary you're trying to bring him up after

02:57:47.540 Alex we can but let's just

02:57:49.600 keep it short

02:57:50.220 Alex is coming up

02:57:53.380 it says joining

02:57:54.260 it says

02:57:57.780 joining

02:57:58.580 okay we'll try to bring Gary up while

02:58:01.720 alex is joining all right gary i'm trying you again your audio better be okay

02:58:11.240 gary yeah am i better oh so much better what's up gary you got herpes

02:58:19.800 no no herpes for me i do have a story i got actually i got a confession okay

02:58:25.400 go ahead

02:58:29.960 someone hello someone killed yeah i'm kidding um what's the confession

02:58:38.500 well i'm like hearing i'm hearing the stream because you have youtube open in the background

02:58:45.880 somewhere okay i got it sorry about that so yeah basically i do not have herpes as far as i know

02:58:53.320 uh my confession though is that listening to this stream it did give me uh i did a lot of googling

02:58:59.400 while the stream was going on and like i am a bit concerned i'm probably gonna get myself tested

02:59:04.680 this week because apparently you could have herpes and be asymptomatic so i mean i've never

02:59:10.640 had an outbreak but i also like do not routinely get tested and i do routinely hook up and i actually

02:59:18.640 wanted to i guess i'm gonna snitch a little bit too because when i hear people talk about like

02:59:24.520 their condom use and that kind of stuff it makes me question if they're even getting laid because

02:59:29.840 like i don't think people are using condoms in my experience most people are not and in fact

02:59:36.080 the last time i could even remember myself suggesting using a condom like the the woman

02:59:42.440 in question like she took it as an offense and the time before that it was kind of the same deal

02:59:47.840 that like me suggesting it or pulling it out was kind of like i just brought into the conversation

02:59:54.740 the idea of stds when really like especially if you're gonna sleep together after just a short

03:00:00.800 period of time it's kind of like well you're vibing and everything's good so we like each

03:00:05.580 other it's almost awkward and and it's treated that way yeah nobody's gonna that's why the guy

03:00:10.760 was saying to get tested first i'm like nobody's gonna do that like they're just not yeah and in

03:00:16.680 fact so like i do have some sense of my cleanliness i guess because like i've been in three long-term

03:00:23.340 relationships i guess over the past decade and then each time which is honestly laughable when

03:00:30.020 we were getting more serious at all three times and i guess it makes sense because if i intend to

03:00:36.500 get serious with somebody i'm a little bit like i'm honest and i and we talk about our past a bit

03:00:40.880 i mean i don't ever think that i've gotten a full uh carfax on a girl that's not something they

03:00:46.620 really do but there typically is a conversation where we talk about what exclusivity looks like

03:00:52.400 and that kind of stuff and then all three of my last relationships they asked me to get tested

03:00:57.160 and then confession time again I did not get tested I literally just waited for them to get

03:01:02.600 tested and once they said they were good I was like yeah I'm good too because I mean we'd already

03:01:06.340 been sleeping together for like two to three months so I'd imagine I must not have anything

03:01:11.380 i would have given it to them so how often how often do you get tested i've never been i got

03:01:19.520 tested once in college and yeah not clear i don't get tested but to me it's like i like what like

03:01:28.240 the last guy the last medical guy he made me feel a little bit better because i definitely number

03:01:32.000 one i don't i've never gone down on a chick unless we were in a relationship again i know that's not

03:01:38.040 like a great barrier as far as protection goes but then i also do like a visual inspection like i

03:01:43.820 don't i don't really interact in any way if anything seems off visually and again have you

03:01:50.720 ever gotten there and changed your mind like you saw something we're like yeah absolutely really

03:01:57.920 what'd you see i've seen something questionable on the thigh and like i actually when you talk

03:02:03.320 about herpes so i got two quick stories one actually was not a story but the one closest

03:02:08.100 person to me that i knew that had herpes i had a boss and we actually we ran like a logistics

03:02:12.820 company it was his company but it was a small company so we actually used to dispatch out of

03:02:17.020 his house and like his his home office and i like had been working in his office at one point when

03:02:23.760 he was dealing with an outbreak and he was kind of giving me the play-by-play as he was like

03:02:28.360 treating himself and he was like specifically it was very much uh centered on his thighs so that

03:02:35.080 made me aware that oh i didn't even know that i thought like genital herpes makes me think

03:02:39.520 it's on your genitals right he his were not on his junk it was on his thigh so at one point i i was

03:02:46.560 getting with the chick and then yeah i saw something questionable on her thigh and i just

03:02:51.100 made an excuse and got out of there what was the excuse you made i said i didn't feel good which

03:02:57.260 true actually yeah i was like i i actually think i'm gonna throw up which i wasn't that sick but

03:03:03.580 i i really felt like oh my god like i like i dodged a bullet because i mean the thigh is

03:03:10.040 almost scarier because how are you not going to come in contact with somebody's thigh what was it

03:03:14.200 like a blister i i never got close enough to to really be able to tell but it did it just looked

03:03:20.540 it looked um just red and agitated honestly it could have been it could have been a bad bug bite

03:03:25.740 but from as far as i was sitting oh you just you weren't you weren't testing it you were like no

03:03:32.040 i'm not gonna find out today never talked to her again either and i have actually a story just from

03:03:38.220 a couple of weeks ago i matched with a girl on a dating app and we talked for like three four days

03:03:44.740 set up a date and then literally as i was getting ready to leave my house she she she messaged me

03:03:50.840 said hey by the way i have the herb is that a deal break i honestly debated whether i was even gonna

03:03:59.080 message her back but i did i did let her know that yeah absolutely it's a deal breaker but it really

03:04:03.800 like since then i have not used the apps and i probably will return at some point but um it's

03:04:10.520 it it is it's scary out there i could only imagine i'm like they say that men are less susceptible

03:04:16.440 to this stuff and i could only imagine that at some point i probably slept with somebody that

03:04:20.360 has something and i've just been dodging bullets and maybe not like i'm gonna get tested and

03:04:25.080 i don't still don't know how i feel about the whole hooking up thing but well how many

03:04:30.200 how many women do you hook up with a year would you say uh it's it obviously depends on the year

03:04:38.360 not not a crazy amount like because i i honestly so again confession time part of the reason i

03:04:44.200 almost cannot use uh condoms is because just like i guess the combination of hookup culture and corn

03:04:52.520 like i can't get stimulated enough to even finish when i don't have the condom on or sorry when i

03:04:59.000 do have the condom on and then i i again that actually and i think i i've talked to other guys

03:05:04.600 that have this problem but i never hear it talked about in red pill spaces is that if you if you use

03:05:10.360 a condom and then you can't finish girls take offense to that too they it's almost like you're

03:05:15.720 inadvertently calling them ugly and and and it's like why can't you finish and what's wrong with me

03:05:22.040 and they literally will like start having kind of uh uh uh existential crisis type of thing and and

03:05:29.400 like all of a sudden now you have to like reassure them that they're beautiful they're desirable and

03:05:33.640 all this different stuff when it's like to me it's just simpler to just take the condom off and

03:05:37.720 honestly i really only hook up when i just feel like i've kind of been dry for a while so going

03:05:43.640 back to the original question last year actually i had a girlfriend for half of the year and then

03:05:49.240 when i was single i probably hooked up with like six or seven chicks okay well it's not like you're

03:05:55.560 like so that's in a year seven or eight um well that's not like like i've heard worse so yeah no

03:06:04.600 i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not chad or tyrone yeah and um but that that's that to me though

03:06:10.680 it actually is more telling because well it's also how many times did you hook up with them

03:06:15.640 because like it we said earlier like if someone has something and you hook up with them once

03:06:21.000 you're not really that likely to get it right if it's and it's also it's also too when they got

03:06:27.800 infected because if they were just infected they're more likely to spread it but if the

03:06:32.840 girl caught it like five years ago it's not really that likely that she'll spread it

03:06:37.480 um allegedly according according to what i've read you know i'm not a doctor

03:06:43.080 pearl you're making me feel better about this which is not a good thing i'm just going to keep

03:06:46.840 doing more risky stuff well i hope you're right well i mean well i hope you know that if you do

03:06:56.600 get it a lot of the guys just lie and keep having sex and that was that was the last point and i'll

03:07:05.480 finish here is that what i was thinking is that like i have again as a guy we don't care about

03:07:11.160 how attractive our friends are so i have friends that are very successful with women much more

03:07:15.560 successful than me and i have friends that are that they struggle really bad so based on outcomes

03:07:21.560 i'd imagine that i'm probably somewhere in the top 25 and again that's just based on how

03:07:27.160 women judge us superficially on an act like i i don't imagine i'm just better than this many

03:07:32.360 people but my results are probably in the top 25 i know guys that are probably in the top five

03:07:38.040 or maybe even yeah like let's say top five because it's hard to know who's in the top one percent

03:07:42.760 that's probably like athletes and rappers and stuff like that none of my friends are people

03:07:47.000 And do you know of any of them having STD scares?

03:07:50.280 It's also tough because people don't tell me.

03:07:52.100 Not even scares, 100%.

03:07:53.900 My biggest player friends have basically all been burnt before.

03:07:57.680 Really?

03:07:58.980 Every single one of them.

03:08:00.100 Yeah, and they've been lucky enough to not get herpes,

03:08:02.780 as far as I know, or they might not have told me.

03:08:05.220 But they've almost all gotten chlamydia.

03:08:08.420 Yeah, that's the common one.

03:08:10.500 Yeah, gonorrhea, which I guess they don't necessarily get symptoms from.

03:08:14.500 yeah comedia gonorrhea no symptoms for for most people but that but they get the drip they call

03:08:20.900 it right those two aren't bad is what i've heard is like you take an antibiotic and it's done

03:08:27.080 it's not like herpes or hiv which kills you so yeah exactly i mean that's yeah going back to the

03:08:33.900 hiv thing too i've never it like i've never in in like i guess 22 years of being sexually active

03:08:39.420 i've never known of a straight person to have hiv i haven't either oh i don't know anybody

03:08:43.980 wait so your player friends though none of them i can second that too i've never met do you think

03:08:48.880 your player do you think your player friend would tell you if they got herpes i think they would

03:08:54.300 yeah i think i think they'd be ashamed but i mean we tell each other pretty much everything and like

03:08:59.520 especially like some of them are even more like it's almost like they they enjoy the the kind of

03:09:05.320 grotesque conversation so i had imagined they some of them would have told me for sure i question if

03:09:11.380 others would have also be as honest in that case do they do they wear condoms the player friends

03:09:18.040 no no no okay and again girls don't like it i mean and honestly i think my my like the the player

03:09:25.500 guys if you can get a if you get a girl to like you enough in a short period of time then i think

03:09:30.740 that you'd probably also get her to be okay with the condoms uh but that's kind of why i referenced

03:09:36.500 them in the first place because to me i know i'm not like that top five percent guy so like i i i

03:09:41.960 know that i'm actually risking messing up the whole encounter by by trying to push the condo

03:09:46.860 because it's almost like a lot of times i can see the level of attraction that i have going on it's

03:09:51.880 almost like i've passed the barrier of yes they will sleep with me yeah but if i if i do something

03:09:57.520 to weird make this situation weird it could all go away so like no i don't imagine asking for an

03:10:02.700 std tab like that is not gonna happen like come on oh you're offending them you're telling her

03:10:07.620 she's dirty or like something made you think they're not so i forgot one of the callers said

03:10:14.700 that i'm like yeah good luck like come on yeah i'm just gonna have like a a mini test kit by the bed

03:10:21.740 a little consent form right by the candle yeah i know um but yeah i just wanted to mention that

03:10:30.400 Because it is always odd to me that when the condom conversation comes up,

03:10:34.520 because again,

03:10:35.200 I don't imagine that all these guys who are either like the red pill content

03:10:39.820 producers or the people that you see interacting,

03:10:42.620 like in Colin shows that they're all top 1% because I just don't think the

03:10:47.740 average guy can whip out a condom and not mess up the whole situation.

03:10:51.880 Yeah.

03:10:53.580 I don't know.

03:10:54.420 I don't sleep with women.

03:10:55.660 Do I get MPAD of thoughts on that with women in condoms?

03:11:00.400 um they say there are major cities like atlanta baltimore where the women will take offense if

03:11:10.800 you try to whip out one um in my opinion comes just you just use them especially on the first

03:11:18.560 couple of days man like you the first especially if you're banging a girl on the first night

03:11:23.600 you gotta have one man come on now well you see the problem is doug is like i said is that i

03:11:29.040 typically only kind of dip my my foot back in the dating pool when i'm like trying to like

03:11:39.200 bust the slump or like like so it's like for me to just be like adding in layers of protection

03:11:46.560 it's also like i'm wasting more of my time just trying to like like clear the pipes you know well

03:11:53.120 you know you could get the gift that keeps on giving no you're right you're right no this show

03:11:59.280 honestly it's made me really consider either just just taking the hit and and and putting in the

03:12:05.040 extra time that it would take to have condoms be a thing or or just like not care as much

03:12:12.000 about hooking up because it is uh it is a minefield out out there even like i live in

03:12:18.320 in should we say what city where we live in does it matter if you want yeah go ahead yeah so i

03:12:24.180 live in phoenix i was originally from canada and uh i moved here when i was 21 so i was just old

03:12:31.360 enough to go out and uh drink and go to the bars and stuff like that and like uh the first couple

03:12:36.600 of months that i lived here i i had like uh picked up a chick for the first time and went back to her

03:12:42.540 place and this this girl was like uh maybe just slightly above average looking uh she if i think

03:12:49.660 most people if they saw her they would probably assume this is the kind of girl that is not

03:12:53.260 promiscuous um she was uh long story short and then after we hooked up like i kind of expressed

03:13:02.940 to her that like i'm surprised that things progressed as quickly as they did and then

03:13:06.780 she proceeded to tell me about one of her friends who she showed me as well who did absolutely like

03:13:12.620 she looked like a librarian she actually was a librarian she looked like the kind of girl that

03:13:17.020 you would probably have to date for months before she gave it up and this girl told me that this

03:13:21.100 girl not only had herpes but she did not tell guys unless they asked yeah that's one of the um one of

03:13:29.580 the guys i interviewed that's what he said he said if they don't care then why do i he said these

03:13:35.100 girls they don't they don't want to wear condoms they don't ask me if they don't care about their

03:13:39.180 health i don't either so yeah and honestly and that's how a lot of them view it they're like

03:13:44.860 yeah i mean they didn't ask and honestly maybe that happened for a reason because

03:13:50.300 for the first few years that i lived in america i was a condom all the time guy because that story

03:13:58.060 like it

03:13:58.700 oh are you there

03:14:09.520 I think he fell off

03:14:12.580 wow

03:14:13.040 I see him but his sound may have dropped out

03:14:15.680 Gary

03:14:17.280 yeah I mean you can't always tell

03:14:19.820 I always wonder if I know any girls

03:14:22.080 that I'm sure I know someone

03:14:23.580 a girl with herpes I just don't like they

03:14:25.720 obviously didn't tell me

03:14:26.820 okay well i'm gonna drop gary off and we can end the show there okay well this wasn't a fun

03:14:35.080 conversation but somebody has to do it and i'm glad we did it here at the audacity network

03:14:39.940 shout out to doug mpa um thanks for you know helping research for the show and doing the

03:14:46.680 dirty work out there as always yeah as always yeah you've been wanting to do this show for

03:14:55.720 for a while you know yeah it's rough rough yeah well i just i think it's a big part of dating

03:15:05.400 that nobody talks about like nobody talks about this in the right get 50 bodies okay how do you

03:15:10.360 do that without getting herpes you know what i mean it's like when they tell like myron says

03:15:17.560 his stuff or whatever yeah and it's just it's a numbers game man like all your player friends

03:15:23.960 that are men and women they got something man i don't know like then also the one i mean you

03:15:31.180 just never know because you have you could have one guy who gets with the whores but then

03:15:37.980 the good girls go for that you know go for that one guy and now she has it too you know

03:15:43.320 it's like dang yeah or the nice guy gets a girlfriend that's a demon yeah and she cheats

03:15:49.820 yeah something yeah it's you don't know okay um all right guys well thanks so much for watching

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Pearl - July 12, 2025

Modern Women and STD's： The HI-V and the Herp (Call-in Show) ｜ Pearl Daily

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