Pearl - July 12, 2025
Modern Women and STD's: The HI-V and the Herp (Call-in Show) | Pearl Daily
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Summary
A clip goes viral online of a dozen women being asked the question, Do we need men? Most answered, No, because men are useless. A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
Transcript
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Clip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question.
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This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
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Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
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Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
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Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
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A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
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You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.
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This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
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You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
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It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
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Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
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One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
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She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
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Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
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74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
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Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
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Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
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I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
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Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
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When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for.
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And you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
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I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
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Before you know it, you're homeless. You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
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We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
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Wives are taught to leave their husbands, and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
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Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
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A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.
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Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.
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We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
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We tell them to put off family into marriage.
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You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
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oh freeze your eggs have an abortion what you're evil i don't think there's anything else in life
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that we actually ever go into preparing to fail like if you have the mentality of this is going
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to go wrong and be pessimistic naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail
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anyway it's self-sabotage that's the thing like women are so willing to leave marriages because
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they're not happy this is not about happiness the most important thing is the children and the
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problem is we have a modern society where it's me me me my feelings leave when i feel like it
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This myth that we live in an age of male privilege,
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They think, well, men have all the rights.
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Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
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I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
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How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
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The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
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The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose to alcohol,
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What kind of a woman are you going to attract?
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everybody knows this is a huge problem but nobody wants to admit it every single woman at the table
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said they wanted a man 500k 500k 300k 200k am i crazy everything is really set up against you
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to fail as a man if men make less than women women don't want to marry them so you know who
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wants more economically and emotionally viable men women i don't want to be an independent woman
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anymore i don't want to be a strong independent woman i'm over it when is it going to be my turn
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The only simp here is you, Pearl. You simp for men.
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She's a provocateur. She says stupid stuff.
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It's already happening. It's just not out in the open yet.
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Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairytale ending
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because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.
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The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
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We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
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This is an existential crisis failing young men.
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I'm your host, Pearl, and this show I give my thoughts after interviewing a thousand
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But before we get started, I attempted to make a documentary called What's in it for
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men the whole premise of the documentary is that society nags men's behavior they just nag they say
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men why are you dropping out of the workforce men why why aren't you marrying these hoes men men nag
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now aren't you doing more jobs aren't you working hard or nag and I just kept asking the question
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well what do men get out of that what do they get out what what does he get
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and anyways i tried to i really tried to put together this documentary but i i faced some
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challenges and one being they demonetized me kicked me off a million platforms so now i'm
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raising money i'm doing it the old-fashioned way and it's pretty exciting because um we just got
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to um 32 000 i'm gonna log in in a second i'll show you guys 32 000 for the gofundme
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oh my gosh it's gonna verify you're just gonna have to take my word
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i hate these two-step i i guess it's for the best but all right so i wanted to get a beer
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before the show today i was really close but i couldn't find one i don't drink much
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mostly because i really want to get six-pack abs i just think it'd be really cool
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uh but today i was like i think i need a beer for this topic because today we're talking about
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herpes and hiv it's pretty gross but i do think this is an important conversation that people
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aren't really having when it comes to modern dating a lot of people have stds out there
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a lot and odds are there's a woman that you know that has an std probably a guy too if they're
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actively dating and in the sexual marketplace a lot of people have had them so the stats i've
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seen said one out of three women have gotten an std at some point but a lot of stds are curable
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right so you know like from there's like gonorrhea chlamydia um these ones are curable
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but the ones that really mess up your life i guess hiv kills you and herpes is pretty bad too
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you can't get rid of that so yeah get your beer get your beer let me know what beer you're having
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in the chat fellas all right so women have become sexually liberated and you know nothing good
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really has come from it modern women honestly believe that they can have sex like men body
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counts are on the rise and promiscuity is at an all-time high what comes along with women sleeping
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around with a lot of men is sexually transmitted diseases. Some of these STDs are curable and a lot
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are not, with the worst being HIV and herpes. Men in 2025 have to protect themselves when
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sleeping with modern women. And you know what, I say the same to you ladies. There's a lot of
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chads out there that look at, they don't care. I've interviewed some of these guys that have
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this stuff. They just spread it. They do not care. The women don't care either. And I'm going to tell
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you guys some stories. Um, many of them, yeah, we could do a show on HPV a different day. Um,
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that's another common one that can give you guys, you fellas cancer. All right. So many of these
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women have diseases and either don't know, don't care, or it's a combination of both. And you know,
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none of these scenarios are okay. Imagine you caught something you could have get rid of from
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one of these women. You know, that's what we're going to talk about in today's show,
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modern women, HIV and herpes. As of 2022, there are 1.2 million people living with HIV. It is
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estimated that 13% of people living with HIV don't know and haven't been tested. Women make up 45%
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of new HIV infections. Men have to be careful when they are sleeping with modern women. You
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can get the high five and have it for life. Now I get a lot of, when we're talking about this topic,
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everyone will you know they'll put in their two cents they'll say what you should be able to tell
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when a woman has this stuff i would be able to tell and men's ego sometimes gets the best of them
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women's too um but i've interviewed uh personally one two digitally two people personally
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uh probably five people i've never actually interviewed someone with aids
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but herpes that one's more common and I'm telling you you would not be able to guess
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I would never have guessed um okay so we're gonna talk about oh no and the thing was when
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I interviewed these people I'm gonna I'm gonna do the two digital ones I had there was two men
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right and basically they both got diagnosed with herpes now one of the men decided to do the right
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thing so to speak and tell women before he slept with them that he had it and he said it killed his
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dating life it killed it it was never the same he hadn't had sex in years because it was just too
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stressful and whatever the other guy decided to you guessed it lie he said you know what i'm just
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gonna lie and he spreads it and he does not care and he admitted this to me he said I do not care
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I just whatever if they they don't even ask if they don't care I don't care and he spreads it
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around I'm telling you guys these um and you could argue the guy that got it he actually got it from
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a marriage one of them he was married to his wife and she brought home the gift that you know keeps
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on giving and um you wouldn't really guess i wouldn't you wouldn't guess it would be these guys
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now um even like talking about this stuff i still feel i know like i do a show i chose the topic but
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this even makes me feel uncomfortable talking about it that's why i was looking for a beer
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before this show is because i really want to stress to you guys that it's not always the men
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the one guy he just looked like a stand-up middle-class white guy you would not guess
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the other guy i think was like puerto rican middle-class sales dude i mean you could maybe say
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like, okay, you couldn't know. I'm telling you. So now this is a woman that has it. And I'll talk
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about some of the other people I've interviewed. No. So, okay. When I asked the guys where they
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got it, the guy who got it from marriage, yeah, he was raw dog. And obviously he thought this was
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his wife. Um, he was raw dog in and then boom, got herpes. Um, he said it was the third girl
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he ever slept with isn't that an l oh my god what an l he said it was his wife the third woman he
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ever slept with now the other guy the other guy um i interviewed he also said it was like one of
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the first people he ever slept with he said he wore a condom now i don't know um it says it reduces
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transmission um the puas i've interviewed about stds and these are guys that are just running
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through hoes they seem to think um that that's impossible you can't get an std with a condom
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outside of like chlamydia i'm just telling you what the market's telling me guys
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um so the p ways are saying that guy was capping they said you know what you're not going to catch
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anything if you wear a condom i've run through like a hundred hoes i've got nothing because i
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I always strapped up. I don't know. I, I, you know, personally, I've never had a run-in with
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this stuff. Thank God. So I can't tell you, do you know what I mean? But yeah, I know it's
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uncomfortable, but this is a big part of the dating market. People are afraid of STD. Sex
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is coming before relationships these days. People don't know, you know, that people want to know
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what their risks are when you're doing this stuff um because otherwise you know people are going to
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die alone if they're not fucking um unless you find like a you know some girl at the community
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college maybe but anyways no who gave me hiv yes but like look at does this woman look like she
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has HIV? I personally, I wouldn't guess. Okay, before I go on a date with a woman, I'm going to
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ask for a checkup for HIV. Okay, let's run this through. Guys, it's hard enough to get laid. Now,
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maybe you have enough status to demand that. But most women aren't hot enough to demand that from
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the men they're having sex with and most men aren't good enough no offense fellas most men
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women aren't gonna do all that for okay i do my privates look like a rothco painting jk i don't
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know what that means all right so i was monogamously dating somebody just before i met my now husband
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for two or three months and about a month after getting serious with them i got a really strange
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viral reaction um it was like mumps pneumonia rashes all over my body it lasted for about a
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month it was just very strange and no doctor could figure out what it was in hindsight i now know
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that that was me being okay an hiv test and her credit score let me get this straight
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if you get a 22 year old baddie in front of you do you really think that you and i'm not trying
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to be pick on you i'm really not trying to pick on you but unless the guys in the chat are some
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sort of celebrity or something you're not going to have the the status to really do that the girl's
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just going to tell you to f off you know um yeah it's hard enough for men to get laid you're
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telling me that you haven't had sex in most men haven't had sex in months and there's a 22 year
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old latina batty sitting in front of you and you said you know what and she says poppy take me home
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and you're gonna say no bitch i need an hiv test come on i don't believe you
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oh i don't i don't i'm just being honest i'm just being honest here infected with the hiv virus
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i won't settle i'm worth it well i i don't want to say it look i'm just being honest with what i
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would predict how i would predict that would go but you are more than welcome to try it
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i could ask why the pua guy because he works with a lot of men and as i was only dating that person
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a time and as I was only dating one person at the time I know who gave it to me just by default.
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When I did find out that I have HIV I did contact this person on social media to let them know
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hey I think you gave me HIV if you don't know already you should probably get tested.
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The response I got was a bit surprising and it suggested that they already knew
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that they have HIV and didn't disclose this information to me. Luckily for me as I went
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from dating this one person to meeting my husband I haven't been able to pass the virus around to
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anybody and for anyone wondering my husband is negative he doesn't have HIV I did not pass it
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onto him either but to answer the question yes i know who gave me hiv and it's a bit of
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what an l all right let's see who's got it next how i yeah
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you can't get on the audacity doug mpa can you make a note we're making updates on the pages this
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week i'm signed in with the pearl daily page is all i can get what content are you not getting
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tag dug mpa in the chat he'll write it down i found out that i had hiv so at this point i was
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already with my ex the guy who oh you're saying oh he's still married to the girl that gave him
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herpes well what's he gonna do now do you know what i mean but no he's not but you kind of
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understand if he was what's he gonna do go back out there affected me for about five months the
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relationship was od traumatic i knew he was like not faithful to me but i never thought that he was
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like not using protection with other women at least i made myself believe that at this point
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i didn't have any more like symptoms like i already went through the acute stage where i
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felt like i was literally gonna however a couple of symptoms persisted even after that that were
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a little bit more subtle but just as alarming the first thing that freaked me out really was
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that i would have a continual yeast infection i know it's kind of gross but it's the reality of
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hiv and the continual yeast infection is called thrush i'm not saying that everyone that has
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thrush has hiv but thrush is part of the symptoms of having hiv and you know i'm from the hood or
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whatever so there's like a little hood doctor i didn't have insurance oh i didn't have insurance
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at that time and so um like anytime i needed the yeast infection like medication i would just go
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to the hood doctor so something that i forgot to mention is that the acute stage is basically the
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stage where you are most symptomatic but once you're done with that phase you are no longer
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symptomatic in like very overt ways but you still have certain symptoms that are very subtle like
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you have a lot of fatigue thrush like yeast infection like discharge the whole thing and
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And the second thing that really freaked me out was the fact that it was literally painful to have intercourse.
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And so at this point, I was taking clindamycin about like once every two weeks.
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So I was like, you know what? I'm going to go to the doctor.
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Even though I don't have insurance, I could go to the clinic and get tested and tell them what's going on since it is down there.
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The day before I went, I had this sinking feeling in my spirit, like in my gut.
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when you get tested you know you do the full panel you only get results for your hiv like rapid
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results day of everything else you have to wait someone comes out and calls my number because
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they can't say your name they sit me down and they just bring it to me like you tested positive for
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hiv my world literally shattered into a million pieces so that is how i found out that i was hiv
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positive yeah she took an l yeah glyctavius gave it to her you you just don't know you never know
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who has it how i found out oh this is the same girl now she's gonna say how she found out okay
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i was hiv positive part two a lot of people want to know if i confronted my ex after finding out
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he gave me women lead in all stds over men by double yeah i know because we we know what's
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going on here small group of men are banging a lot of the women so a few chads are spreading it
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around and the women are spreading it about them both both parties are lying about it and the reason
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I want to talk about this is because I want to make two things clear you don't always know who
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it is and out of the people I've interviewed I also I know somebody that dated a girl and he
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went on a date with her and she told him that she had the the herp you know and he ended it right
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and then do you know what she did after she proceeded to lie to men about it and now she's
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engaged and the guy has no idea I you know this is someone this isn't someone I know but this is
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a story I heard from somebody that I know and the my my point in this is
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I'm you know and from a prep we got to look at the incentives here pragmatically
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there's no reason for them to be honest why on earth would they be honest
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if medical records are sealed you have no way of proving it was them and this is like the
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I've interviewed some not HIV but herp I've interviewed people that have it and their
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thought processes they can't prove I gave it to them because most people don't get tested
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for every single partner like it's like once every two years or a year is the average
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um and if I tell them the truth I stopped getting sex so I'm just gonna lie
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i'm not saying it's the right thing to do it's obviously the wrong thing to do
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but what would be the incentive to be honest seriously seriously guys what why would they
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be honest you can't always see it with the herp stuff you can't like they don't always have active
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outbreak so sometimes there's no symptoms you can't tell everyone's lying hiv and the answer
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is yes but not in the way that you guys might expect man was like a full-blown narcissist in
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my mind on how it was a mistake when you test positive at the clinic they ask you for your
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list of partners i refuse to give them his information mind you i had gotten tested the
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day before i met him and i tested negative for everything they put me on birth control
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they put me on antiretrovirals and they take my blood and send it out to the lab
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sometimes people do have false positives meaning that they test positive for hiv but they're not
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actually hiv positive i knew i wasn't one of them child did y'all see the video of my acute stage
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symptoms it was not a joke so they tell me not to tell him anything until i get the confirmatory
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results but i just couldn't wait the entire ride to his crib i was literally trembling
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I don't really remember a guy gave it to her or her girlfriend yeah I know I know and that's how
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a lot of these people feel and I'm not saying it's right but a lot of these people feel like
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okay somebody lied to me and now I have it so why do I care about the next person
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I'm on the edge of his bed and I look at him in the eyes and I'm like tested positive for HIV
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Why was this his face? Okay. No concern, no anger, no fear. He's like, listen, I don't want to talk
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about this negativity, okay? Whatever you got going on is what you got going on. Don't bring
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that negativity to me. Oh my gosh, this guy that gave her HIV told her not to bring that negativity
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to him when he told her. Oh, that's such a Chad move. He gave you HIV and then gaslit you and
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said don't bring that negativity to me when you're pissed like i mentioned in the last video i knew
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he was unfaithful to me but like i never really had proof and honestly he was a master manipulator
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so it didn't make a difference whether there was proof or not because i was not ready to leave him
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however i did not catch hiv because he was cheating on me child the reason that i brought that up is
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because in my mind i was like yeah you know he's cheating on me but he's not out there having
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unprotected he was probably um cheating with a dude to be honest that's how a lot of hiv gets
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into the dating pool by the way guys the best way to get something is anal talk to a doctor about
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this you know as i was prepping for this show a while back and it's because there's like blood
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it's kind of gross i'm a little uncomfortable talking about this but somebody's got to do it
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somebody's got to do it the sex with women because that would mean that he intentionally infected me
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so it's already like mid-september he begs me to come to his place and he's slapping his cologne
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putting on his shoes and I'm like oh baby where are we going and he was like nah you staying here
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I'm gonna go to a party at Hofstra University mind you this man was 37 years old at the time
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doesn't come back until the next day at around like 2 or 3 p.m. we argue we make up I stay the
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again. And then a few days later, both of us have separate trips. Before my trip, my vagina starts
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feeling weird, like a yeast infection, but times 10. So when I get back, I hit up my doctor. She
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tells me to immediately come in so that I could get tested. Mind you, my doctor cannot stand my
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eggs. She has been begging me since August to report him because he could reinfect me with a
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totally different strain of HIV. Literally the next day I get a call back, tells me that I tested
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positive for chlamydia and at that point the blindfold is lifted and my heart is literally
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exposed and broken into a thousand pieces not because he cheated on me but because at that
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moment i realized that he intentionally infected me with hiv and if you don't know this the number
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one stds on college campuses is chlamydia i couldn't sit with that on my conscience so this
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all went down around the first week of october and he was actually going to miami carnival that
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weekend the hardest part of my hiv diagnosis was actually leaving the person that infected me
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after a few days i finally had the courage to report him to the department of health
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but honestly it didn't even matter because come to find out that wasn't even his real name
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oh my god yeah that is my yeah i did a couple polls on twitter i'm currently locked out of
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my twitter right now by the way i don't know how we're still able to stream from it
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but i fell for some indian hackers they got me it was really stupid so don't buy the bitcoin
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they're trying to sell otherwise i'd show you the polls i did but the consensus from people
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was that i remember i pulled people on if they've had an std what was it seems like chlamydia is the
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most common one that's from the field even the puas um i've interviewed said that's the one you
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might get even with a condom um they all seem to be very uh but then again it's like are they
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going to tell me if they got they caught herpes i i don't know i don't know if people are going
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to tell me that when i'm doing my research that i was and that's why i need you guys to call in
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because you guys can call in anonymously and you can you could give me you know because here's the
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problem with the std stats remember they always lie to make society always lies to make women
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feel better so if the data is saying women are uh they might downplay it so all the stats i'm
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telling you just assume it's worse i would really just um i would just assume it's worse than what
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we're reading um yeah so all right each ivy positive after noticing strange spots on my
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body and experiencing high fevers it all started after a night out with my friend i remember
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drinking a lot way more than i should have things got so out of hand that i completely lost control
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of what i was doing my friend tried to get me home safely but you said we're gonna have to use
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the camera soon okay not this show this show is gonna be pretty anonymous all right he ended up
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arguing and she decided to leave i stayed at the party with some other friends and eventually met
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this guy he seemed fun and the okay so does this look like a guy that's gonna give you hiv
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do you know what i mean this is what i'm like last thing i remember was dancing and having a
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great time the next morning i woke up in his bed confused and unable to okay so he smashed
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call most of the night i left before he woke up brushing it off like it was no big deal i thought
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that night wouldn't have any consequences but a month later i started losing a lot of weight
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i was constantly running a fever had terrible head
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and noticed strange spots appearing on my skin that's when panic set in deep down i had a tear
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if she had any thoughts she may have contracted early on she could have done
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pep has to be within 24 hours but no later than 72 hours well you should call in and talk about
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that i don't know about that drug so terrible feeling about what might have happened that night
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i decided to go to the hospital and that's one comment if you want to hear part two
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pretty gross that's disgusting it'd be great to talk to someone with hiv because i don't know
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anybody with that um all right we got another one
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sunday august 27th um also this is again i'm getting a sick feeling in my stomach this is so
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gross please like the video if you're not gonna super chat me guys hit the like but just as a
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thank you could you just say thank you pearl thank you doug mpa for doing the research on this show
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even though this is nasty for talking about this topic publicly even though this is disgusting
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it's disgusting but it's got to be done i i cover the modern dating market and guys
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that's that that's a big part of the modern dating market it's a big part this week i found out that
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i have hiv i was diagnosed on august 20 23rd um i was diagnosed today is um
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my attempt at my first day out i'm going to the movies with my friend um
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50 dollars thank you thomas conservative that's the kind of talk that's the kind of viewership
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i'm talking about that's the kind of support we love on this channel because it's it's do you know
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what it's like now i have a video of me on the internet talking about freaking herpes that's
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disgusting but i just felt obligated especially as i started doing these interviews i just wanted
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to stress that it could it could happen to any of you because you know
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i'd interview these people and i would be like wow you guys look like just the person next door
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and it's i hate saying that because everyone like they
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it sounds like i'm justifying it i'm really not but it's uh like i'm getting grossed out
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the feeling in my stomach is just uh gross but you know i love it when you guys appreciate the
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sacrifices i make for you thank you thomas conservative thank you because who else is
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covering this bullshit who who else is covering this nobody nobody wants to talk about hiv and
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I don't quite know what I want to do with my story.
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But I wanted to document this in case one day I do decide to share it.
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so that this part of my journey is seen i also just want to document this for my own self to see
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how far i come because i know i have a world a life of um trials and tribulations and i know that
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this is important this this part of the story is important whatever I make it that's really all
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I never thought I would be here I never thought I would be talking and recording myself crying
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it's not who I am but I'm here I'm at my lowest point well I've been lower actually which is
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surprising but i don't know what could be lower than getting hiv do you know what like okay and
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i thought about this because i interviewed a different guy thank you pearl sam thank you
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i was interviewing i just i talked i talked too much i talked to a lot of people now
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and talked to this guy who's like in his 50s and he's dating right
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and he flat up told me you know and i was just asking him about his dating life because he's
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interview he he dated these old broads right he was telling me about dating them and i'm like aren't
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you afraid you're gonna like catch something he's like frankly because he was like 60 at his age
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he's like at this point i don't care and i you know i do think there's like like if you catch
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something at 20 that's far more devastating than catching something at 40 or 50. like that's far
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more devastating far more i'm at a really big crossroad in my life and i'm just here and i'm
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thankful for that yeah again you know you'd think you're taking home a latina baddie and now
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you have HIV. All right, so according to the CDC, 59% of women between the ages of 20 to 49 have
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genital herpes. Let that sink in. These women have the gift that keeps on giving. The luggage
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you can never leave behind. Now, how do most of these women have herpes? From sleeping with the
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same guys. You have Chad Gloctavius that has it and all the women that sleep with him raw and
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contract it thanks pearly land doug condolences of actions
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women would rather catch an std than day to five all right so here's another girl that has herpes
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i mean again does this look like a super slut i like to tell you guys when i'm having a flare-up
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just so that you see what it's like that's not why i'm in bed with a blanket though
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i'm just comfy and taking in the golden hour do you see this okay so literally what i'm feeling
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is and you are the raw walter cronk kite of herp derp hv hiv yeast i don't know what that means
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but i guess thank you i'll let you know like i am on the antivirals daily lately i have been
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since before the summer because i was just like i don't want to deal you know all it is is like
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i'm itchy in one little spot is there anything visible there nope now what the the herpes people
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told me is when they first when you first get infected with it i guess there's a lot of flare-ups
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and then over time it becomes less and less and usually it's one spot that's infected and the
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reason it goes around condoms and people get it even though there's no flare-up is because you're
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most likely to spread it right before the flare-up comes so they can't see it so if it's like about
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to like be a bliss or whatever the and they also said that it's very tough to see the difference
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between that and like a skin tag and it's so disgusting I don't even like talking about this
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But the other thing I was told is that over time, I guess, because one of the dudes that
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I was going to message him on Twitter to call in, but I lost my Twitter.
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But he said that according to him, he doesn't take the antivirals.
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Now, apparently the antivirals make it not spreadable.
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He does not take the antivirals and he just spreads it and doesn't care.
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now according to him out of like 100 girls he's slept with since only like two to five
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said they got it now this kind of backs up the research i've seen where they can only spread it
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like 20 of the year and even if you hook up with someone that has it i think you're more likely to
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not get it than get it like they're not going to spread it every single time and but i guess the
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way it goes around it's so disgusting i guess the way but i'm trying to be informative here
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i guess the way it goes around the condom is some people get herpes like higher than you know
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like higher i'll just say just for the sake of being youtube higher up i'll just say it like that
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i'm not a doctor i'm not a medical professional this is just based on the research i've seen so
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don't make any medical decisions based on this show i'm open if there's someone smarter than me
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in the chat you never know we might have a doctor in the chat you let me know um much respect pearl
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the real side of things is sometimes what more needs to be seen our best to you always thank you
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thank you i'm like getting kind of grossed out talking about this okay can there be something
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visible that comes in a day or two yeah it'll probably keep it everyone's saying it's gross
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in the chat but there's 850 people in here somebody has it i don't know who i don't know
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who but somebody put it in the chat be brave who's got it and become like a little bum and
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look at if you guys have had sex with a hoe unprotected it could have been you it could
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have if you ladies if you had sex with a guy unprotected it could have been you it could be
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anybody truly and then eventually if i left it alone and didn't take an antiviral or didn't put
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an ointment on it it might become a blister and then it would heal and go away does it hurt no
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do i feel anything else with it no i'll keep you posted yeah that's kind of what i've i've heard
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the first one hurts a lot that's the man they all said they all what they told me was the first one
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is terrible brutal but then after that it's like not so bad and apparently there's drugs now
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basically any problem that women have technology will solve so i guess there's drugs that make it
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not spread allegedly i i but i think they have to take the medication the same time every day
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and women you know what i mean um and the other issue is um
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oh i guess they have to take medicaid make sure they're not having an outbreak when the girls
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give birth so the kids don't get get it all right let's see this this is a dude or a girl
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nine years ago this month i got genital herpes i was 16 years old and the person that gave me
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herpes was 20 and i'll never forget this experience oh my gosh she got it at 16 that's such an l
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i'm so grateful for this experience because it made me to the young lady that i am today
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a lot of people have like controversial thoughts about me saying that i'm grateful for having
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herpes but let me tell you why so when i was 16 i was already having a heart at home like i worked
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a lot and i involved myself with old older men because my mom told me better to be a old man's
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sweetheart than a young man's fool. So that's what I did. Unknowingly, this older man was in college
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and he had herpes. So I was involved with him on like a Monday. And by Wednesday, I was having
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symptoms. I had all these sores just pop up like each day and they would get worse. And that's what
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i've that's what i've heard as well is if you get it they say there's no symptoms
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but every person i've interviewed said they got symptoms pretty fast
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um allegedly from what i read online it said you might have it and not even know
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again people don't really want to talk about this stuff so you probably are going to learn more
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you got two problems gynocentrism right people they're going to hide information that makes
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women look bad so that's one way we're not really going to get the truth about it the other issue is
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that people are pretty embarrassed about this stuff they don't really want to talk about it so
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like they're gonna they lie to their part like you know there was a reddit of a married women
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that woman that had herpes and never told her husband um i the friend i think the friend of
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the the guy i know that dated the girl that went on a date with the girl that had it the girl got
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engaged and the guy doesn't know careful out there and worse like it started with one then it went to
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three then it went to six and then it was like a nine from my you know lady parts to my my butt
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you know and i was in excruciating pain i'm like man i don't trust anybody in this house to tell
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telling what's going on with me. And mind you all, I worked a lot. So I had a like overnight
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type of job. Yes. When I was 16, it was like an early morning overnight. Like, I don't know what
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shit you call that. Anyway, I ended up telling the lady that I worked with, like, oh my God,
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like something is wrong with me. And you guys got to stop crashing out on these girls that
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have herpes. If they tell you, I'm telling you, man or woman, if they tell you, you're lucky.
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because i'm interviewing them and i'm telling you it's way easier for them to lie
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my son caught herpes from his girlfriend okay if you could call in and tell us about it like
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um yeah and if you guys have had experience dating someone or whatever with it i please
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don't come in and crash out about women having this stuff and men have like just call in i just
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want the experience and she's like just try to push through like this is truck truck team for
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jc pennies they like you can't go home you're gonna have to work so i'm like oh my gosh like
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i have to work through this excruciating pain so finally finally it got to its wits ends to where
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i was at home one day and it was so many sores down there it hurts to urinate so i was holding
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my urine so long that i was standing in the kitchen with my mom and my urine just came out
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of my body like my water had broke and my mom was like what is wrong with you what is wrong with you
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and i just start bawling my mom is and was extra mean so i'm like i don't know there's just sores
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everywhere down there and she's like you done got something oh my gosh she's mad like this was the
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18th i think of july and she took me to the doctor the 19th of july and that's her birthday
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um so yeah i found out i had herpes on my mom's birthday the doctor swabbed the swab she said oh
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i'll send it in for testing but this is herpes my mom my mom was so mad at me that i think she
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didn't talk to me for seven straight days like she wouldn't even look at me she continued to be mad
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for like eternity she's cool now but she was like really really mad at me and i thought i would
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never make it to see 18 and get up out of that house but i went through it you know what i'm
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saying and that's why young kids come to me and they'd be like oh i'm so scared to tell my parents
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and i get it but you have to go to the doctor and get the medicine so that you can start to
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suppress it in your body i mean it'll go away on its own but it's better to just go get that medicine
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all right let's see who's next yeah someone in the chat said i grew up in the 70s if someone
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tells you you're lucky i'm telling you you guys are like if the girl or the guy told you here is
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i'm not i'm i personally i i know there's a person i know that did marry another person
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that had and i try to be vague so people can't and um there the reasoning was i'll just say
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there was an exchange of value that this person felt like um was worth it and with the technology
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they felt like it was that would personally be a deal breaker uh no thank you but um and i don't
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i would never shame somebody you know for saying that's a deal breaker but i just we gotta be
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honest here we gotta like you're very lucky if the girl told you because especially as a woman
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being honest you guys should have said thank you so much for telling me and left yeah is what i
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say when i disclose that i have genital herpes to a new potential partner i'm adrian the yodi
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nutritionist and i've lived with genital herpes for over 20 years so i have a lot of experience
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with disclosing what i've learned over the years is it's not what you say it's how you say it
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before we get sexy i want to have a sexual health conversation just to make sure that we are on the
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same page with where we're at and what we're good with it's important for me to share with you that
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i live with genital herpes i've had it for a long time i'm doing everything that i can to manage and
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prevent it i rarely get outbreaks anymore and we can still have an amazing sexy time i want to tell
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you about it before we get sexy so that you don't find out about it afterwards i'd love to know when
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the last time was you were tested and then you stop talking what you're doing here is you're
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giving them the facts you're not getting emotional about it or you're not information dumping by
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leaving it off with a question gives them an opportunity to think about when the last time
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was they were tested because the responsibility isn't all just on you give them an opportunity
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to digest all of that information that you just shared and then if they have any questions you
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can open up further discussions from there most of the time the person on the receiving end of
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the disclosure it's usually the first time that they've heard about something like this or they
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don't know much about it so their confidence in you is a reflection of how confident you are in
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yourself this is why learning more about herpes how to manage and prevent your outbreaks and
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prevent transmission to your partners is so important to building your confidence when you
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you live with herpes i teach you all about that in my healing herpes
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look they gotta figure i actually don't think what this woman's doing is the worst thing in
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the world because they gotta look at there's half of women and like 10 of men or something like that
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that have to figure out how to date with this thing so um if she's teaching them how to tell
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each other i think that's a win for society at least they're not spreading it um
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that's so gross oh my god all right so what do we got next we got this woman i told my
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yeah see she's a baddie parents and they took it really well but i did feel like i had to explain
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you know why i hadn't protected myself because obviously my mom would ask me oh didn't you use
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a condom i mean i didn't use a condom so it's definitely it must be from that but you can also
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get it from not protecting yourself so there'll always be a risk of getting some sort of sti
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my name is emily bride i am 29 years old i live in london and i'm an artist producer singer songwriter
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i found out that i had gender herpes because i had this itchy feeling and it's been
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it had been going on for like four days but i didn't really give it much thought until i was
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when I was itchy or touching myself it actually hurt it started like it looked
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like milky spots they turned out to small cuts and then they would like unfold
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I've heard that's the biggest difference is they like blister open and that was
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where I couldn't pee so that was where it was very smelly and uncomfortable I
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had to then Google what I saw and then come to the conclusion that I might have
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genital herpes i didn't want to talk to anyone about it because i was embarrassed so i
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felt ashamed i felt embarrassed i felt disgusting most of all i started thinking about how
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i couldn't date anymore and if i had to date i would have to wait having sex with them because
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i wouldn't want to do what someone might have done to me not telling me and i didn't want
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people to judge me because i was judging myself and that was the worst pain you can put on yourself
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it was horrible mental pain i have to deal with and then on top of that started the physical
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i have heard one strategy women with herpes use is they blow the guy because you don't have i think
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you don't like it doesn't they don't always have it in the mouth right so they blow the guy and
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they give him the best blow job of his life and then they tell him like you know later
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or i've also heard that women will have sex with the guy and then tell him look at these
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are stories i've heard communication and developing a relationship is vital and should be the goal
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these random sexual encounters do have consequences well yeah but i'm telling you half the people i
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interviewed got it from either a girlfriend or a wife could happen to anybody
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it could happen that look and that's you know that's when you get some humility right because
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i know i have made good decisions in my life but when i meet somebody that got it from a husband or
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a wife and it was according to them the third person they were ever with
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you know it humbles you a little bit because you're like damn that happened to them
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and they made you know they got married young you know
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it's yeah I know it's so gross it's gross but I'm just being real here guys I can't
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I wish I could come back to you and say when I interviewed these people there were just these
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skanks like they told you would totally be able to tell they had it they were just whoring about
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but and some of them were right i mean some were kind of either man whores or female horse
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but some weren't and i'm just you know i'm just being honest here me not being able to pee as a
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woman you first thing you think of is like you know your appeal how will i now come across am
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Am I sexy enough? Will anyone be with me? Am I good enough? And I should have done this.
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It opens so many new questions in my life in terms of all the times I have not protected myself.
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And why is that? And then digging into that and reflecting on that. And then the whole like me
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being a woman, like, why is it that I feel this way? Why can't I just talk to my friends about it?
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What am I ashamed about? This is very normal. Yeah. And as women, you know, when women get it,
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they feel even more lonely because you tell a woman in the friend group she'll tell the whole
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friend group and now everybody knows you can't tell women this stuff my relationship with my
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new partner we've been together for seven months now and i told him about the whole story and what
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happened and what went down and he just gave me a big kiss and a big hug he made me even more
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confident or made me love myself i do see myself as a role model because otherwise i wouldn't
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why do women take owls and then call themselves role models here today i would like to tell
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everyone out there and the world just to spread awareness about genital herpes but to tell them
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that they are completely normal and that it does not define who they are all right um
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and you got to think about it like this guys have you been on three dates
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one of the women probably had it okay um in some demographics it's higher so let's say you only
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date like asian and white women because half of black women have herpes so if you go that route
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you're playing with fire i'll tell you what the the white women it's like one in five i think or
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one in six and Asian women it's one in eight but if you go on eight dates
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look and anecdotally the the guys who gave me stories of the women you know one was a white
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like that because I haven't interviewed a girl directly about it but I've had men tell me stories
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of women they've dated that either had it and they didn't get it or they went on a date with
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they told them and if i'm being honest the stories i've gotten back one white girl one indian one
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jewish one black so it was pretty it was pretty around you know so all right like this girl has
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it would you be able to tell i wouldn't oh basically i've been dating this guy like we
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finally decided to say like okay we're not seeing other people so then i was like cool
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but i hadn't told him about the herpes yet because it only had been like a month i think
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of seeing this dude it wasn't that soon and i don't always tell a guy right away sometimes i
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wait to even see what's going to happen but anyway so i waited a little bit just to kind
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of see where things were going i had got a cold sore and i was like fuck and i was supposed to
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hang out with him so i literally instead of telling him i was scared so i broke up with him
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and gave him no explanation and he's like alexis what the fuck and i was like okay hear me out i
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was like I kind of have herpes and I was scared to tell you and I have a cold sore right now
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and he was like really that's why you're breaking up with me he's like I don't care like he was like
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I don't care it doesn't matter at all he's like I know about it I dated a girl like that before
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and I was like oh cool and he's like so can you still hang out I was like yeah he's like then
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fucking come over I don't care we just want kids and I was like oh so it's not all right
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uh let's see who this girl's boyfriend is he dates her with herpes and he can't even
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make the gram isn't that crazy he can't even yeah i mean you know if she's young and pretty enough
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guys will accept it for the you think you guys would really be able to tell come on
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all right so i did i asked chat gpt how likely you are to catch it using a condom
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all right so the risk factors of catching hiv or herpes through oral or a vaginal sex depend
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on several factors including whether protection is used the infected partner's viral load especially
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for hiv and whether the virus is actively shedding now i do we do need to take this
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but this is what it's telling me um i would have used grok but i'm locked out of out of my twitter
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um here's a breakdown of the estimated risk per exposure for oral and vaginal sex for hiv and
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herpes based on cdc data and peer-reviewed studies so if you have vaginal sex with a woman
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if you're a woman and you have sex with a guy that has it um it has hiv
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um and if you're the guy putting it in a girl it's one in 2500 but it does increase if there's
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blood involved so if you're hooking up with a girl on her period doing backdoor stuff if you're just
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a big guy you catch my drift there's blood or if you have other stis oral sex it says extremely
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low the risk is not negligible but not zero slightly higher if there's ejaculation sores
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or bleeding gums again condoms reduce the risk by 80 to 90 percent if a if the hiv plus partner
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is on art and undefectible the risk is pretty low that's what i've heard i've heard that from
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medical professionals on shows too again we're in a gynocentric social order
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we're all sifting through this here everybody's selling something i don't know herpes all right
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ladies um if you have sex with a guy with herpes um you have a one in ten chance of getting it if
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the partner has hsv2 no condom and is shedding so if you have sex with a guy that is has his viral
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shedding which happens 20 of the year there's a one in chance 10 chance you get it if he's like
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and there's no condom um men it's a one in 20 to 30 if you're banging a girl with herpes you got a
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one in 20 to 30 one in 20 to 30 times you'll get it her hsv2 sheds more frequently than hsv1
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hsv2 is genital herpes hsv1 is cold sores oral sex is lower than vaginal but hsv1 can transmit
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to genitals and vice versa so if the girl gets cold sores she can put that on your on your you
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know stuff if she's been you know um and it's similar um for the male hsv1 is the main cause
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of genital herpes from oral sex oh didn't know that okay condoms reduce herpes risk by 30 to 50
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herpes can be transmitted even when no symptoms are present daily anti antiviral meds can reduce
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transmission risk significantly i have heard that some guys will take that before a date to reduce
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the risk i don't know if that works for someone that doesn't have it i'm not a medical professional
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maybe doug mpa can dig into that um all right but basically the it's saying that um herpes
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is 3% to 10% chance of catching it if he's shedding and no condom.
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If there are any visible sores or symptoms for HIV,
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for herpes ask about antivirals um all right if you'd like i can calculate your estimated
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risk if you've had multiple encounters or break it down by specific scenarios
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it for example if you're in a six month sexual relationship with one partner who has hiv or
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herpes and you always use condoms your chance of getting infected depends on how often you have sex
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whether your partner is taking treatment whether the virus is active or shedding for herpes and
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how consistent your condom uses. So let's assume vaginal sex is two to three times per week for
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six months. So you have about 60 acts of sex. Condoms are used every time and the partner is
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either HIV positive or HSV. And you are HIV negative and HSV negative at the start. The
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receptive female. It says for HIV, it's one in 100,000 and one in 250,000. Those are the odds
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with 60 protected acts. Oh, so it's for each one. It's per act. But if you do it 60 times,
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your odds are one in 4,167 as a guy and one in 6,667 as a girl. John, my ex-wife gave me
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chlamydia the only one i've ever been with we're divorced now yeah sometimes it's just an l
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it says if the hiv partner is on art and undetectable the risk is near zero
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now the herpes risk over six months with condoms um so male to female so if a man's having sex
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are male to men giving it to women four to five percent ladies so um if you're just using a condom
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and no medication, 4% to 5% are going to catch it. Women to men, women giving it to men, 2% to 3%
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are going to get it within six months. It actually would be interesting to see how that extrapolates
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over like 10 years. In six months, the male risk is 1.5% and the female risk is 2.5% will get it.
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If the HSV Plus partner is on daily antiviral medication, the risk drops by 50%.
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If the partner has HSV1 genitally, risk may be lower due to less frequent shedding.
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Oral sex adds additional but lower HSV1 transmission risk, especially if the HSV Plus partner gets cold stores.
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Um, all right. The summary is that for a man, if you're, if you're banging a girl, one in 4,000 for
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HIV, HIV and one in 67 for herpes. Those are your chances for a woman. One in six, that one,
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thou one in 1,667. If the dude's got HIV, if you're banging for six months, three times a week
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To lower the risk, have your partner get tested and treated.
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If you want to model different sexual activity levels, let me know.
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okay okay yeah now we're done all right so um now that we're talking about this
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i want to know you guys's experience um do you have hiv or herpes call in it's all anonymous so
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um we're just gonna have cameras off today um have you gone on a date and had somebody tell
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you about it um it and had somebody tell you have you ever been getting to know someone they say i
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have hiv or herpes um and how long did it take you to tell somebody and what did you do or for them
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to tell you and would hiv and herpes be a deal breaker for me personally um that would just
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you know it's just one of those things that if you don't got it you don't want it
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i get really tired of the herpes people with the cold sores saying everyone's got cold sores
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because i'm like i've never had a cold sore in my life i don't even want that one no thank you i'm
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good i am i am i am no thank you all right but let's let's go to doug mpa um thanks for torturing
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yourself through this topic it's a tough one but i do think it's important so yeah you know if half
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the thing if half the we got to think of the math here if half the population of women has it
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if it's attractive women it might be even higher yeah yeah i'd say six is in above it's probably 80
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gross um so this is this is a big part of dating nowadays so you know have you
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have you come across it in the dating market what's been your experience yeah you know i actually
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Honestly, there is a time where I was trying to actively date B-dubs.
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And one of them, you know, we were talking for a little bit online online and, you know,
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And we went out on one date and then I actually went on a work trip for my day job.
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So we're talking when I get back to the hotel, we're talking whatever.
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And it was to the point where the day before I was going to come back, it's like, all right,
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when I come back, we're going to go on a date and we're going to smash, right?
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She's like, yeah, I just want you to know that I may have herpes.
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She's like, well, I took a test and it was inconclusive.
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And then one of my friends went out with another B-dub, and they were just about to get it on.
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And she had a little pamphlet that, you know, they were on the couch and stuff.
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It was like, I have genital herpes, but it's not the worst thing in the world.
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and blah blah so she created this whole pamphlet and handed it to him and expected him to be like
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read it and say okay yeah he was like get the hell up out of my house i'm gonna have to watch my
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watch my couch cushion now get out of here then she tried to call him and say now that you calm
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down you know i hope you she kept trying to call him and then after a couple days she's like i know
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know you've calmed down and I'm willing to give you a second chance.
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She's like, a second chance, just disgusting.
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Yeah, I'm telling you, when I was interviewing these people, I think I
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showed you a voice note one of them sent, or maybe I don't remember if I did, but
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like the pit I got in my stomach, I was like, oh my God.
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yeah you're lucky because a lot like I said the story earlier there was a
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someone I know went on a date with someone with a girl and she told him but because it didn't work
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out with him she never told a guy again and then she got married two years later because
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she just started lying do you know what I mean like she tried telling the truth it didn't get
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her what she wanted so she said fuck it i'm gonna lie now she's married now so because i think that
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people with stds should tell the person and because what's worse them lie because a lie of
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omission is still a lie you know what i'm saying yeah but you could say should but it doesn't matter
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yeah like they're like like do you know what i mean that's like a wish list they're not going to
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because it doesn't give them the outcomes they want it doesn't give the guys sex it doesn't
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give the girls relationships and the way they view it is actually let me look how often do
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people get tested how often do people get not often enough that's how stds um
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uh it keeps telling me should i want to know how often people do well if i had to guess people get
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tested like once every two years maybe on average i don't think that's enough but if i had to what
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would you guess it is just anecdotally ask that again i'm sorry i had to block this king guy in
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the chat because he is i made steve m a moderator he's legit he's a great moderator guys
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and if you come at him come on now guys calm it down no caps no curse words because
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remember pearl's channel is a red pill channel it just gotten re-monetized it's probably still
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on some watch lists somewhere so youtube censors her chat based upon certain things so just
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follow the rules please i'm sorry go ahead pearl how often because i keep googling this and it says
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how often people should get tested how often do you think people do get tested like what's your
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just like being in the field experience if you have to guess well because i know people that
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just don't don't even go to the doctor so i'd say maybe once every two years that's what i that's
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i said the same thing for a guess so like a guy that's sexually active how many girls is he running
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through a year would you say a guy actively dating like in the dating market so a guy that's
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in the top 30 20 percent yeah i'd say he's smashing 15 15 women a year okay at least how
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is who is he going to be mad at he he he tests positive after two years he's got 30 women he's
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going to call um and women let's say it's the same numbers i don't think it is it's probably
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higher for women but let's say women it's 30 guys two years same thing uh so i think that
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i think that he just can test positive i don't even think he's going to reach back out to
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anyway i think that women are more likely to reach back out to the men than the men are to
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reach back out to the women if they're dating right but that's my point is like the incentive
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for people to be honest isn't there because by the time yeah by the time they get tested
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they can't prove who gave it and that's exactly like one of the people i interviewed that's what
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he told me he said well they're sleeping with multiple guys like the reasoning he said he said
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well the girls don't even ask they don't even ask to put on a condom so if they don't care about
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their health why should i and and here's the thing uh from what i've read men get more immediate
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symptoms than women do women can go years without getting symptoms
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I don't I've never interviewed everyone I interviewed was a guy but one of them
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infected he's had long-term people that he's infected and he said they got it pretty quick
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like he said they got symptoms pretty quick when they got it that was what he said I know it makes
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you like feel sick but they like I'm telling you they don't care should is like a waste of time
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they don't care yeah like because like the way yeah the way the way they're gonna view it is
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like you're killing my sex life and i'm not gonna do it so yeah some people are out here man just
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doing damage right but when they get the positive results after two years it's like who are they
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gonna call yeah nobody so there's no accountability go ahead the way that the sex life was what did
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did you think was going to happen well some of them die i'm telling you like a good amount of
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the guys got it from wives that i interviewed i'd say half yeah i would imagine that because
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i honestly believe in marriages women cheat far more than men yeah like two of the guys i would
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say were man whores two of them got it from one was a girlfriend that he was with for a while one
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was a wife um my dolls and drugs are disease free and they don't cheat oh eric with the doll
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i mean he has a point there eric you are not helping me with the incel audience allegations
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okay guys all right make sure make sure to like the stream if you haven't already
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is anyone in the chat or is anyone called in yeah yeah yeah okay i was like i wouldn't be
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shocked if nobody wanted to call in for this one make sure to like the the stream if you haven't
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already subscribe if you haven't already we're 20 000 over 2 million we're on our way to 3 million
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so hit that subscribe button thank you to everyone in the youtube chat always good to see the regulars
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and thanks for those in the audacity chat i actually had to boot fazelle from the audacity
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chat today but fazelle if you're listening you can't be acting up like that man you can come on
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tomorrow but you can't be calling people names and f-bombs and be intentionally incendiary man
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you you've been a long time supporter but you can't be rolling like that okay all right so
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we're gonna bring up the next i'd i'm also might ask you guys how often you get tested
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just out of curiosity okay so i see some new names so let's bring some new names in here
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uh akshay are you there uh hi there hi how are you good how are you yeah i'm good thank you just
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saw the the thing and it just found it interesting so yeah all right so my guys when it rains here
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my audio is kind of bad so i'm gonna have them mute me after i ask the question just to make
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the audio a little better um can can you get can you hear it doug i'm assuming you can it you can
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bear oh you can barely hear it's bad we can't hear on the zoom we can barely hear on youtube
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oh okay then i might leave so okay well what's your um so what's your experience did you catch
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an std or do you know someone that has one uh sorry i didn't catch one no sorry i just tuned
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into the show uh no all right buddy sorry did he not people that just like walk in i can't i'm no
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yeah guys don't don't call it i i said this earlier but call in if you have a story either
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you or someone you know you know yeah christopher i'm sorry yeah good evening hey chris i can't
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good evening i'm make sure you hear the youtube in the background so you have to turn the youtube
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off earlier but call in if you have a story either you or someone you know you know yeah
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okay i don't have a story i have a question chris you're listening to youtube you have to turn the
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youtube off here uh could you yeah i'm gonna guys if i come into the 21st century guys come on now
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if i okay if i say call in if you have a story and you come on and you say but i have a question
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you know i love you guys but it's just i'm trying to run a show here okay so if nobody
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wants to call in and tell me their std story i understand i really do um but yeah all right
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okay someone else i don't know let's let's get in a good mood we're gonna admit
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probably our favorite guest on the show we know he has some stuff to say about this dustin what's up
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I'm not having an outbreak. Can I have my video on?
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I don't have anything. I don't have anything. It's alright. I'm not contagious.
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So, enlighten us. Who has gotten the herp derp or the high five?
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well okay who do i i knew i actually i worked with this girl who had it
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that's what you asked right yeah but there was a girl named all right so wow i almost let it slip
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but uh i remember you know in the service industry they got this thing called an early out
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like if it's slow so this this girl she goes on a date with this guy and she comes to work and
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she's like really freaking out uh like a week later and it comes time for eo and we have guests
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at the bar and she goes well shouldn't i get the eo because i just found out i have herpes
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and she said it so loud and uh yeah it was wild and then um i actually when i was bartending at
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this casino one of the guys i worked with and you're right you would never know that he had hiv
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but um he he ended up telling me about it and uh like how he got it and he actually spread it to
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his wife but he didn't know he had it for um a long time they went on a vacation like a year
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into their marriage and uh he got really sick on the vacation and almost died and he ended up
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spreading it to her unbeknownst to her and uh it's like it's really sad it it's very sad when
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someone tells you they have it uh obviously um but uh he seemed pretty at peace with it and he
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would tell me that with all these new pills and stuff he just goes and raw dogs chicks just like
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did before so oh my gosh wait so right i'm not saying it's right but uh well yeah you like yeah
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go on uh i was just thinking about because i've always been real afraid of stds because i don't
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i don't it's not that i don't i'm just too lazy i don't i don't want to be proactive about
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rubbers you know i'm just like i just put it wherever it wants to go and uh like
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i just think about it do you know how the gender pay gap how that figure is gotten it's kind of
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like how they get the std figure because you make sure one in five people have an std but i've done
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shag 12 of my friends and i never got an std i wouldn't get tested so i was like statistically
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that's not right you know but um yeah but you don't it's also based on your immune system so
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you might have a strong immune system yeah i got that i got that jewish blood in me i'm immune
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wait so um the guy that had it um did he how did he get it did he tell you and was he just
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he was banging other girls while he was married i'm guessing and did he ever spread it like did
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He was doing hard stuff because he had a lot of depression.
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His brother committed suicide and started doing heroin.
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And he was doing that outside of seeing his wife
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And, um, that's one thing that, because I did, I met a, uh, like, I digged down this chick in New York City, and after I talked to her for a bit, she told me her best friend had HIV, and I got really afraid, because I didn't use, I didn't wrap it up, so, like, I broke up, I went to her work, like, a week later, and I broke up with her, and she was like, why?
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And I said, I think, like, I said something really rude, but, you know, and people don't, when people have it,
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they don't tell you this crazy life they usually live before they contracted something that serious.
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Like, herpes is another thing, you know, you can get that.
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But HIV, I don't, if people went into their backstory, you would be like, wow, no wonder you got it, you know.
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The people that you've met with herpes, were they sexually promiscuous, or were they just like, oh, this just happened?
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Oh, wait, actually, I do know one girl that has it.
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She actually had only been with, like, one, maybe two guys.
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like she was pretty young when she got it um the guy um he was promiscuous but he got it pretty
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early on like maybe like he actually kind of reminds me of you a little bit like his attitude
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yeah he's a yeah but like early on he got it um one guy was married he got it from his wife he
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wasn't promiscuous so i don't know anyone with hiv though the the girl though that got it did
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she lie going forward or did she because she was obviously really honest there oh no she didn't
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she actually just started like she got it she said that stupid thing at work she didn't work
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for a week she came back and then she started dating another bartender it was there you go i
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Because I'm telling you, some guys and some girls, they don't give an F, man.
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But I think that once you say, oh, I have this drug that stops my outbreak.
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So as long as you don't see it, we don't got to worry about it.
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i think if a girl says something like that a guy's gonna be like hey sign me up you know
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uh hey hiv for sure you know i'm not like i'd make out with a chick that had hiv on new year
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you know if she needed that like a kiss and no one else would kiss her at night
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um like it was herpes i would and she got she'd have to be bad but you know 34 and i gotta live
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with it for just a little bit longer you know it might be worth it i'd have to
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like margot robbie at 21 i would i'd even ask for and get herpes on that you know but
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i'm probably not gonna do it i you know i'm i'm at the point because i'm in my 40s if i
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because i was telling pro this if i met a girl because you know i like tall women so if she
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was like five ten five nine you know you know crossed a bunch of the boxes off and all she had
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was like cold sores on her mouth or something i mean i could probably deal with that only because
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one of my friends was married to her husband for like 15 years and he he got cold sores when he was
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a kid and they were married for 15 years and she never got it so um but but once again that would
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have to she'd have to be like you know a seven or above and have a lot of traditional values and
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stuff like that but um yeah yeah the high five no way and then genital hsb herpes in the heck no no
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way i don't even i don't even think i'd risk cold sores like those look painful like i don't know
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i've never had i've never i don't really like canker sores you know the stuff you get when
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you eat too much sugar oh and i'm like a court store those look worse i'm like i don't know if
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i'd risk that all right all right jesse we're gonna have to cut it a little short tonight
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because we have a full range of callers but thanks for calling in we have a lot of callers
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we do have a good one guys all right see ya i was here talking to you buddy yeah
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okay i'm gonna try christopher again be ready man
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christopher yeah good evening how's it going chris
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yeah good okay thanks okay what you got for me you got did you get an std or do you know someone
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that has one or or or are either other two that we talked about a deal breaker for you
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what do you got okay so with on on the std front okay so i just i just did some reading
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on herpes and what it actually does to like the like during pregnancy
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so it's it's like pretty severe right the the chances of like the mother transferring the
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the infection to the baby is not it's it's it's quite high but it's not like 100 percent um
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kind of guaranteed it would transfer that's the first thing that i've got from the ai overview
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so um yeah obviously i'm not i'm not saying like it doesn't it it shouldn't affect like
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people's choices but that's just what i'm reading okay what about you personally
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me personally i do i have herpes i don't i don't think so no like i know i get cold sores but like
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no i don't have like i went i went recently to an sdd clinic um about a month ago
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how often how often do you get tested um maybe like
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um is our have you ever been dating a woman and she said oh just so you know i've got the herb there
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or i have hiv yeah yeah and it yeah and that was the end of the uh relationship was it would you
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have guessed like did she look like she might have had an std did she look really promiscuous or what
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no she just no she just yeah she just had a cold sore and then i was like i just asked about it
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and then i was like yeah okay well did she have genital herpes too or just the i don't know i
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don't know i didn't go oh you were like not you're you're the cold sore wasn't but if you get cold
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sores i think that means you have the first one so what is that is that yeah i'm like pretty
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yeah there's hsv1 and hsv2 hsv2 is the bad one where you get a it's it's a bunch of stuff
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yeah you don't want hsv2 hsv1 they say sad part about it they say like by the time you're 45
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like 70 to 80 percent of people have like hsv have cold sores or something like that
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oh my god in the west god willing i just i've never had one and they look painful
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yeah so okay um so what you said i'm a little confused because i'm looking at what i'm reading
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on chat gpt is it says it's not that likely the kid will get herpes i don't i don't know
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i'm not like i don't know like it's saying it's only if she's in an active infection
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right and what and how often does that happen occur it's like 20 of the year but they can
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take drugs to suppress it i don't know though i'm not a doctor this is the the problem is this topic
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it's like people like they coddle women so much they don't really give us the information so it's
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all coddled so i don't know go ahead and also women they women are still seen as the the victims
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of this whole thing when there are women that are knowingly spreading it or or come on guys
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come on ladies if you're with a a gab in the starving musician or a glock tavius come on man
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just just assume they have it and don't mess with the guy you know what i'm saying but women do it
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anyway yeah yeah all right i mean really like yeah i mean if if i was gonna like make the law
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then i would be like that should be a kind of punishable offense because you can't medical
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records like yeah people have people have yeah people have the right to like keep medical records
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private okay like confidentiality yeah right and yeah but okay yeah i'm just i i agree with you but
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i'm just i'm just being honest about this there are some states that the california has a thing
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where if you normally give someone hiv you can charge them with a crime so you you start to see
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more and more states like that yeah well yeah no i think yeah i mean yeah that that makes sense and
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like to be honest like i just think that if like it's it's like i guess it's there's there's some
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kind of like gray area or that there is i guess the people have like the right to
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privacy i guess but um i i just don't i just don't i just don't think in like if if you're
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going to kind of like think about like evolving the human race right and trying to make sure that
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like certain things don't get it just it does yeah i know it just it doesn't matter it don't
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like it doesn't matter what you think because like women aren't gonna let it happen uh we're
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to go on to the next caller but thanks for calling in okay okay all right cheers bye
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i'm sorry i just didn't want to go down the route of like it shouldn't be i mean you know how it is
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it's like it doesn't matter bad luck are you there yes sir bad luck is that bad luck because you got
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it yeah i have to you know at least try to make fun of it yeah okay um so how did you catch it
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uh it's a bit of an unfortunate uh event but basically uh i was i was a virgin married this
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girl she didn't say uh and then all of a sudden you know surprise surprise
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surprise surprise you got which one i i so according to the tests i have both of them but
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uh i only had like blisters uh like on the you know basically on the genitals
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wow so you got both from and so you were a virgin until you got married yep wow
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wow and are you guys still married or no no and what have you done in like your dating life now
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do you like tell the women or what do you uh i i kind of tried talking to some other women after
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that and then like i remember uh dating one canadian girl in particular and she was just like
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oh yeah i love you this and that and then when i told her she was basically like gagging and she
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like she said it was like disgusting or whatever and i'm like okay cool you know uh so were you
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guys hooking up at that point no no no before anything happened i just let her know and and
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she was you know she acted completely like disgusted by it so uh and then then she came
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back around and then she was just like you know she was trying to be nice about it and i was just
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like okay uh you know and it's just kind of like discourages you from tell talking to anybody and
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telling anything to anybody that's basically what happens and have you tried like dating sites for
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people that have it like is that something you've tried no not really okay is it something you want
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to try or not like how long have you had it for uh probably i want to say since maybe like 2013
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or something like that and i'm just curious how much does it affect your life like the blisters
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how often are they and like how bad would you say it is like the h like for both the symptoms
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um so but when i first got it it was kind of often um it was they're extremely painful and
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they take a long time to heal so it's a very uncomfortable experience um and you know you
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just try to basically get your best to keep it like clean and dry because you know that stuff
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like spreads basically so you know um and then after that it's just like it just becomes way
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less often it's just less often and less often to the point that now it's like i haven't had it in
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years yeah that's what i've heard from the other guys i've interviewed too um do you think that
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like if you were to hook up with somebody they would be able to tell you had it like do you
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it's easy to identify like if you're in an outbreak or like or not go ahead uh yeah i mean
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i guess if uh if if if there's a visible sign then yeah but honestly no i couldn't tell you
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know if somebody's lying about it and they don't have anything visible then it's like impossible
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to tell and what about your wife like you didn't notice any like blistering when you guys were
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married and like how long were you married till you got it like how long were you hooking up till
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you got it probably a year and a half or something like that maybe less a year year and a half yeah
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and was she taking medication or no no not that she didn't say she acted like she didn't know
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she was just lying through her teeth the entire time so i i never noticed anything
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she never said anything so you know sounds about right so that's that's how it is and for
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hiv is it likely that you will die from that someday like based on the technology now
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now people live with that stuff until old age i had an uncle that had it and
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you know he just lived until old age basically he died from something else
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girl he said he said that he has both versions of of hsv herpes not not hiv oh i'm sorry i
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misheard you i thought yeah hiv there's one and there's two i was like damn damn it's a double
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homicide so are you are you in um are you in the south are you in like texas or new mexico or
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something like that no i'm in the south yes yeah so i was um i lived in san antonio for
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for a couple of years and there's this lady that was on the news
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and she got uh hve sleeping with a random man wow and so she would go to and she was very
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attractive too she'd go to the airport in like a little black dress or like a little red dress
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and just sit at the high-end bar at the airport and then just get hit on by some guy that was
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traveling and sleep with the guy raw and then just keep it going yeah and she'd do that every single
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weekend and she she's been arrested multiple times for it but she just keeps doing it she's like yes
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someone gave it to me so i'm gonna give it to as many people yes so she just she'll sit there at
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the bar at the airport let guys pick her up take her home and then do it raw there are some very
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twisted people out there what did your wife do after was she able to get remarried again
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oh yeah yeah so she was basically yeah it's just you know she was she was cheating on me uh that's
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why i left her um and then she married the guy that she was cheating on me with and she had a
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a kid with him too oh yep and do you know anyone else who has it you said your uncle has it and
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i'm just curious if the people when you brought up like hivs that's what my uncle had okay i was
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just curious does he tell people about it or does he lie honestly i don't know to be honest with you
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because i mean he told me i remember he like the family knew but i don't know if like he told people
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he dated i'm not really sure i was never like into like his business like that but you know
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fortunately he passed away uh you know he's not around anymore so i couldn't tell you
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um and when's the last time you had an outbreak you said it's been years
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oh yeah it's been years i don't even remember when was the last time to be honest with you
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how many bad years do you have to endure before it like gets to that you said in the beginning
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like in the beginning is it every other month like how often do you get it
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shoot it's been a long time i'm trying to remember it was it was probably like
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if i have to guess because i don't remember it's been so long it was probably like maybe like every
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like two three months or something like that it was you know like i said it was very annoying and
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then then it's just like it's just less like less frequent less frequent less frequent until
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then it gets to like once or twice a year and then it's just like right now it's like i said
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it's been years and would you say it killed your dating life like you basically had no dating life
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after 100 yeah it's just you know like i said i try to be honest to you know like with the way
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that chick reacted it was just like enough for me to like fuck this you know i'm just way too
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Well, there's a lot of girls with it nowadays.
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Really appreciate you sharing your story, buddy.
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and then we can go back to some of the OGs real fast.
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Yeah, I used to work at a STD clinic in the Bay Area.
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Oh, yeah, I worked for, like, a year or two, about two years.
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My experience is that it's mostly a lot of gay men have HIV.
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In the world, basically, there's a lot of gay men in the Bay Area to go with that.
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But the stories are crazy on how people would get them.
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You'd hear all kinds of, like, stories on some people would get.
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and when it comes to h or hsv one and two um a lot of hsv one a lot of hsv two i guess um
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the thing that i got was weird was that um a lot of the women that had hsv two they would tell
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their partners or their future partners and a lot of the men were like that's fine that's fine
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and they would tell me like so the guys were like i don't know if they're simping or they're just
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desperate or the because the women that did tell me that a lot of them were really hot
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really attractive and um from my experience also that when you have uh hsv2 you can shed
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which is you're shedding the virus like you could shed like a week or two before you actually
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start feeling symptoms or showing symptoms so it's so the people that you think don't have it
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may have it so it's hard to um tell if someone has it and a lot of the std testing in california
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they don't test for hsv1 or hsv2 they'll do the other stuff the chlamydia the the hiv the um i
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forget gonorrhea um all that but they won't really test for it and they say it's just so
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damn prevalent in california with the hsv1 and 2 and do you think the women that had have it were
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they like would you say they were more attractive women um like just across the board go ahead yeah
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in general okay in general it was really it was the really hot women um i i have a question
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if this is doug mpa's question not pearl's question
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how many how many other women that came into your clinic were black women
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um the one that was that came in a lot she was actually she had hiv really cool lady though
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super cool lady um but it it was mostly the one that i saw i lived in where i worked at i'm not
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going to say where um it was mostly gay white men older men it wasn't really a lot of young men
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um the young men that did come in they were it wasn't i can't say the worst they were like the
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damn the horniest like it was just i remember a couple of a couple came in and then a week later
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they're fighting with each other two young men because one was cheating and they were both
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one came in a week after that and he was looking green's hands were had pustules i think he had
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gonorrhea for like a long time and he was just really in bad shape and he couldn't stop having
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sex and then this other guy um i'm not gonna say it's an ethnicity or anything he was actually
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hivy positive and hep c positive and he would come in and then a month later he'd come in and
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he had chlamydia in his in his anus and in his throat and they tell him to stop having sex and
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he and then he wouldn't he would just come in like three months later he'd be infected again
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it's just it just was just nonsense and it was a young gay man and i felt bad for them but it's
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just it's like it's hard for them to control i guess their sexual i don't know like they just
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couldn't keep their pants on i guess um but the older men um they were just coming in for their
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regular schedule uh visits you know every six months every it just depends how sick they were
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on their viral load or basically the viral load is the amount of um hd virus you have in your system
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and you check that like every i don't depends on how bad you are how sick you are um the medication
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now is really really good um you can take the medication to where your hiv your your viral load
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is so low where it's undetectable where you're you're testing negative uh with hiv but you have
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to be i forget the name of it it's been a while how how often do they transmit it because i when
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i was looking on chat gpt it was saying you're really not likely to get it if you hook up with
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someone that has it but that seems um that seems wrong but i'm like i don't know it's from what i
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remember in the studies is that um like vaginal intercourse it's pretty difficult to get it's when
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you get into the the blood the blood on blood contact so anal sex is you have a lot of that
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blood on blood contact that's also when you have hsv one and two there's sores there right so if
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there's you have a higher chance of catching something because you actually have a wound so
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something gets into that wound like disease like hiv or something else so that's why they say you
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have you're at higher risk of getting hiv if you have hsv1 and hsv2 and you're having sex
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so it's really like that blood on blood contact that's really the thing about it um but yeah
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there's also like a tracking system in california once you have hiv you're tracked for the rest of
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their life um through this through the state so if you're like say you're homeless or you leave
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the state or you're in jail they have to like figure out where you're at so they can keep you
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taking the medication to keep you below the hiv level the hiv viral loads where you can give it
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to people so it's like um so if someone disappears they go to jail we have to find them figure out
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where they're at and have them keep taking the medication and do most of them live like a normal
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life now oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah they're taking their meds they have a normal life it used to be
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like in the 80s the medication was so bad it was really tough on your on your liver and kidneys
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um but the medication got it's gotten so good um that you don't have to worry about that unless
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you're doing other drugs or you're an alcoholic or something like that so i think for doug's
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question he was asking about um the herpes if like what percent were b-dubs um it was low for
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more but i we i the where i worked at was a low it was pretty predominantly low um
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african-american community okay that makes sense i couldn't tell you yeah it is the
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were you like right in san francisco like right there yeah that's yeah that's really expensive
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though so yeah exactly exactly if i worked in oakland i'm pretty sure you'd be holding different
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stats yeah i would imagine okay so for the um the would you say that most i don't know if you even
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like in your job did you did you even have a chance to talk to them about how honest they
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were with the people they slept with i'm just curious if you had any information on how like
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honest people are with it the the younger let me add to their one
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I'll add to her question, not only pro's question, but did you have any like optional questionnaire questions about disclosure or how often they talk to their partners about what they have?
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It's hard to say. I didn't see a lot of younger people there. I was mostly the older, older white men, but most of them, they actually had their own partners.
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um when people did come in for random testing it was um you know did they just want to get their
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HIV test you know no questions asked that kind of thing I there was questions of how many people
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I slept with I remember one guy he was a cop and he says he just he forgot how many people he slept
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with he just wanted to get tested um other people would come in just to um hey I need my what was
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it my my warts burned off I need my warts taken care of like they actually had dinner to warts and
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get treated and okay i'm i'm gonna go about my business even though they were positive they're
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probably hpv positive which is a general warts which i think four of those types of general warts
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can actually lead to um cancer um so it's it's for men it's really important if you if a woman has
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hpv because the hv can you can get through a man can get throat cancer from hpv of those four
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there's four variants there's like i don't even know there's like maybe 30 to 20 to 30 different
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types of it's 16 18 the one you don't want right that's the no i forget it's at least maybe maybe
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i forget how many are cancers but there's at least four or five that are cancers um see if chat gpt
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says what strands of hpv give men throat cancer um i'm curious what anecdotally and
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Maybe because there was a lot of gay guys, but like, what percent of women do you think have STDs, if you had to guess, based on your experience at the clinic?
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Trichomonas, that one, like, damn near 80% of the women that came in for STD checks had that.
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um what is that um it's it's hard to explain uh i haven't let's don't look it up so it's it's
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they call it trick everybody calls it trick in in the clinic um we're talking about stuff that
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we didn't even know about yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and it leaves like a like a like like a
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stinky smell on a woman on a woman's the jj basically is one of the symptoms but yeah yeah
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there's tons of maniasis yeah is a commonly sti caused by a parasite called
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trichomonas vaginalis is typically spread through sexual contact is treatable with antibiotics
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uh oh i'm looking at the pictures yeah it causes a foul smelling vaginal discharge exactly that's
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the biggest symptom so you'll so yeah that big stink that's probably trick so that's so that's a
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telltale sign hey i'm not going to go down on this lady girl because sometimes some guys are
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desperate like i hear stories oh yeah you know i i even though it smelled i was still hitting it
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you know because you know it's better to have a jj we know that type of you know mentality what
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percent of guys do you think get herpes if they get into a relationship with a girl that has it
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i just i don't know i just know a lot of the women that i that did come in with
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hs me they would tell me like the guys wouldn't care because they were she was so hot and i'm
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like what the like what do you mean didn't didn't care like they didn't want to put on a condom
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like no they just they didn't want to put on a condom no they were all right with it which which
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which was i'm like oh my god guys are that fucking desperate i know i'm sorry i know one guy that
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didn't he said he hooked up with a girl that had it but to be fair he was like 57 50 i feel like
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at that age they're like that's another thing like older people they don't they don't give an
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f about those stds they're like i'm on i'm dying anyways i might i don't give a f no they like
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nursing homes oh yeah i worked at a nursing home too and they're they're they're they're they're
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hooking up they were hooking up big time big time um sorry hun yeah they're hooking up big time and
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it's at a nursing home it's like well they're adults let them do you know unless they don't
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have the mental capacity they're like well they can do what they want so it's that's another
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where where did the warts come like if a guy's hooking up with a girl is there like is it
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easily visible like the warts are they big some aren't um some show up like on genitalia or on
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the side of the legs um on the penis it's it's there's different types i guess um they show
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differently on different people too like different races it shows up on the skin differently it could
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be a big old wart like on your hand but it could be small and little it could be a bunch of little
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ones around the penis it's it's all kinds of it's it's yeah it's a huge variance i was just
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ever seen you that one uh instagram referral with it's this woman she's in a salon like a waxing
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salon and the wax lady's like that smell down there ma'am i i can't wax you she's like well
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i just got out of the gym she's like that's not the gym you need to go to the doctor and she's
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like well i can't believe you're not gonna give me i'm going on vacation tomorrow and she's like
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ma'am i am not gonna wax you because you you you got a discharge down there and like it smells
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gross and she's like i can't believe and she's trying to cuss the lady out laser i don't feel
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comfortable giving you a wax you need to leave um i was just i was just curious if you think that
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it's like easy to identify if you're hooking up with somebody like if a guy's hooking up with a
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girl or vice versa if there's any like i don't know best practices places to look so you don't
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catch anything just keep using condoms until you when you feel comfortable to take it off get get
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the the std panel get the whole hsv one and two and all that before you even think about having um
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oh that's my next question yeah like do you do you think the guy that said he told me he got herpes
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from wearing even though he had a condom and they hooked up once do you believe him or no yeah yeah
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you can shed on your legs but it's it's possible he could have um my gosh he probably could have
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kissed her and she had it on her face well he said it was the second one not the first
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um yeah the the the other thing too is that i think you can get hsv2 on your face too i'm not
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sure yeah you can yeah so yeah they you kiss someone that has a hsv2 on their face and then
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i think it can show up on your on your vaginal on your on your lower extremities i'm not sure on
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that um but you can yeah um but there has been um i've read stuff where you can be shedding on
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your you can because you can have hsv2 on your legs it doesn't necessarily have to be on your
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genitalia it can be a next year genitalia basically or it can be on your arm it can
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we've seen people have sores on their arms and it was hsv1 or hsv2 and if in in your experience
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what like what percent of people that you came in that got stds were wearing a condom
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if you if you know if you don't it's okay but i was just curious i couldn't tell you but i'm
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pretty sure it's pretty low yeah it's pretty low um it says 16 is the most common cause of hpv
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throat cancer in both men and women it's responsible for 90 of hpv cancers other high
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risk types like 31 33 35 52 and 58 but these are much rarer forms of cancer but are sometimes found
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i think 16 18 are the ones you don't want to get it could be it could be rare here but once you
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start going to thailand or africa or you know then it changed it totally changes um even with aids
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you can have a different variance of hiv there's like there's like a rare type of hiv or a different
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type of hiv that the medications can't treat in africa like though that aids variance or hiv is
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different from the one in the u.s because it mutates it's it's like the hiv from the 80s is
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not the HIV from today. You know, it's one of my conspiracy theories.
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Yeah. So, you know, the aspects of HIV that make it unlike any other virus.
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I think the reason why it's the most prevalent in South Africa and Lesotho and all this, this is,
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I can't prove this. This is just my, I honestly think that the South Africans came up with that
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to try to get rid of the white South Africans during apartheid came up with that to
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to try to get rid of the black population is out there who knows he was back yeah yeah
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what was the average age of the women coming in with herpes oh the one
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20s 20s 30s you know the oh yeah but a lot of the older women that would come in um
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it was it was like it was totally normal to him because they've had it for years
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that's that's the only thing I was like oh yeah it's part of my you know that
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kind of thing it was just across the board but it's it's really just to say
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it's there's a lot of people that have HSV and HSV 1 & 2 in California to say
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the least what percent of attractive people do you think have herpes men and
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women i couldn't tell you okay i'm just curious i like to ask people that work in the field so
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i i just yeah a lot of people because i think a lot of people have it um yeah i i can't say
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like i would say at least two out of ten at least have it okay i put it that put it in that context
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cool okay so again you know see what's really going on so thank you for calling in we really
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appreciate it no problem take care okay someone's got to nobody's you know it's like i haven't
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really heard any show like i remember i'm like kevin i think that as women especially when they
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smash past the wall uh they would if enough if they meet a guy that crossed off enough of their
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boxes they would deal with anything short of maybe the high five yeah you know um okay avery
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i'm glad no one wants to do me wisdom for the hsv take foods and herbs with um cumin um
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quercetin and reservatrol i'm so sorry take lysine which blocks arginine which helps the
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virus replicate and our genasi canceled out the agitine don't ask me how i know this okay this
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incel audience allegations um spread knowledge not herpes yeah look i just i just felt this
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we'll talk about it agree um okay although women i think we just want it we like we love playing
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with fire so i think if like we might catch something it just makes it like i asked one
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of the guys who had it i'm like your exes that were really into you do you think they'd hook up
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with you even if you told them you had it he's like yup ah there you go i remember one of my
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friends uh who's a woman she's all everything that we talk about she's in her mid-40s six figures
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was a single mom now her kids out of the house and she was on Facebook dating of
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all places and I'm just like what are you doing there and this really
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attractive male nurse good-looking dude hits her up on there as she's like
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they're talking and stuff he's like hey I'm a travel nurse I'm at this hotel
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why don't you come there's a really nice restaurant in my hotel why don't you
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come here Friday night and then you can stay the night the night you know that
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night in my hotel room. And she's like, I can't believe he said that. And does that really work?
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Of course it works. He wouldn't have tried it if it didn't. He said, because my friend,
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she's very difficult where she's alone, but she doesn't know. She tries to say that she's happy
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alone, but we all know she's not. And it's like, all you women, you're going to break sometime.
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You're going to be like, okay, I'm here watching Scandal for the 10th time. This guy hit me up
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on for a Friday night. What else am I doing? And I and this
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woman, I don't know if who knows the last time she's actually
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been with a man. So a lot of the women like you, you're gonna
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break some time. So that guy probably sleeps with a whole
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bunch of women just like you. And that guy probably has
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Oh, well, anyway. Okay, well, let's bring up four, five, six,
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seven eight eric he always has his microphone messed up or maybe he's listening to the youtube
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that he's delayed there he is what up eric you got herpes or not well not anymore what do you
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not anymore yes you can't get rid of that what are you talking about well you know a moment ago
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well actually after the past few minutes uh your youtube feed was totally roboting
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so i was i was i was fighting that refreshing you know trying to get it to go back to normal
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um but i guess we're okay now are we yeah you're good so um okay well the sun's going down so
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there isn't a whole lot of lighting on my face which is probably like 11 more people on the
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line and we just crossed the two hour okay well i'll be quick then um yeah back in 1982
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And there was a girl who worked in a restaurant, you know, right on the other side of the pier
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And about 10 days later, I had a sore on my noodle.
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I'm not sure what you can say on Facebook, but yeah, it was basically herpes.
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and, you know, that stuff would erupt like every two or three months
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And, you know, I joined the military later and it never showed up again,
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Um, but, uh, you know, the, uh, my, um, I ultimately, you know, I eventually got married
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and I guess my, my wife at the time was, uh, you know, throwing the pussy at me almost every day.
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And it didn't occur to me that she was trying to get pregnant.
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and uh you know she uh she wound up getting a whole bunch of tests done and it turned out
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she couldn't get pregnant because during her you know what do you call it her experimental phase
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she had apparently caught chlamydia and it had completely destroyed her reproductive tract oh
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my gosh yeah so her her eggs weren't even making it down her far enough to get fertilized how long
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did she have chlamydia for i'm not sure i mean you know i married her when she was 21
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um i'm guessing she was probably banging all the chads from like age 16 until then
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um you know because yeah she was a horny man no doubt about it i mean you know she she loved
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getting it on wow so she was infertile by the time she got to 21 she must have had because
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from what i understand how long does chlamydia take to make you infertile did they not have
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drugs for it back then yeah i don't know i mean okay you know i never bothered to follow up on it
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And, you know, well, and that's not why I divorced her.
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I mean, ultimately, after 14 years of marriage, I divorced her because she was so incredibly financially irresponsible, you know.
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But, yeah, you know, before, even before I got exposed to herpes back in 1982,
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well too um one of the worst things that ever happened to me
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there was a super athletic really attractive redhead in my apartment complex okay um
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oh yeah yeah and we had a huge pool party there were like 20 people or more there
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And although I wasn't able to detect it at the time, we wound up going back to my apartment.
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And, you know, I went down on her because, you know, back then I was a full service guy.
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And I wound up getting a yeast infection in both my inner ears.
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And, you know, it was really funny because I came back up here to the Verde Valley
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My mom hooked me up with an appointment with a gynecologist up here in the Verde Valley.
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and uh so there i am in the waiting room with like you know eight women aged like 18 to 30
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and the reception is like okay so why are you here and i'm like do i really have to say this
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out loud and uh i was like uh i was like well my ears are about to explode because uh apparently
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have an infection in my inner ears and uh she's like how the fuck would you get a yeast infection
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in your inner ears and i'm like honey do the math you know i'm a full service guy and last night was
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an amazing time and now i'm paying for it you know i don't do it yeah well what was really funny is
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you know it's like uh i got like smirky looks from the women in the waiting room like hey let
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us know when you're good again because hey i'd like some of that action oh my god
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it says it says you can get infertile from chlamydia in a year actually oh yeah so she
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didn't get yeah so she didn't get tested for two she could yeah well the thing is chlamydia is not
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this drug you know it's it's it's not a virus it's a it's a protest it's a single-celled organism
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and you know like initially they're supposed to be like you know signs like you know a discharge
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or whatever but if a woman blows that off it goes away and what it does then is it climbs up the
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you know it propagates through the uterus goes up the fallopian tubes and essentially the fallopian
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tubes become cords they're scar tissue they're close there's no way an egg's getting down through
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there and uh yeah you know it's like uh so did she have the chlamydia infection like
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was it active when she went and got to went to the doctor
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well from what her from what my ex-mother-in-law told me uh she set up an appointment for her to
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for her daughter to go to the doctor and instead of going to that appointment she packed up all
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her shit and drove out to oklahoma to live with her dad so basically she went into denial and
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she just let that infection propagate not knowing what it was going to do to her um 21 and infertile
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i met a girl that got infertile from taking too many plan b's that was around the same age
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you remember her dug mpa on the show yeah she had the green makeup on her eyes yeah that's so weird
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yeah she was nice though yeah okay eric well well you know you can't i don't think you can really
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judge people for the way microorganisms have their way with them because they're invisible you never
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know when you're going to pick something like that up that's why you got to get regularly tested
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though yeah well i mean the other thing is if you've been diagnosed with you know something
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like that and you're still dating it's kind of kind of incumbent on you to let your date know
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that you've got this or that medical history you know but uh
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yeah it's a it's a wacky world man i would imagine okay we're gonna move to the next caller
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thanks thanks for calling ed damn a yeast infection in his ears that's a while
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yikes they will bring up damn he's really up there we're gonna bring up will
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It was always a good call. Hey, Will, how you doing?
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No, fortunately not. Two quick points, but before we get to that, dude, how do you get a yeast infection in your ear?
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You know, we're just going to move on. We're going to move on from now on.
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Okay, we're just going to let that one go. Fair enough.
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That's one of those where you don't know what's worse, the question having to be asked or the answer that you get.
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OK, well, I got two quick stories to support some earlier points.
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and we had a chef who was like a 50 year old gay guy.
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And this was in San Francisco, by the way, just to set the context.
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So we're we're sloshed one night and we're like, my dude, level with me.
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He goes somewhere between three and five thousand.
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And I was like, what, bro, can you run the math?
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And he explained to us that every weekend, Saturday and Sunday, for a period of like one or two decades, he would go to a bathhouse and every night he would bang like three to six guys.
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And sure enough, we ran the math and we're like, yeah, that's literally in the thousands.
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so i didn't say anything because trying to be polite but in my brain i'm like
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that's how aids happens like that's where that comes from just saying
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and did he get it um i did not ask okay yeah i know sometimes i'll hear stories from guys and
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i'm like there's no way you don't have something i'm like there's girls too but it's like okay so
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what about, you know, that's actually, if I ever had Bonnie Blue on, that's what I'd want to ask
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her about. But show me your test results. I don't believe you. Yeah, that's the thing. I'm not Bonnie
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Blue, but the other one, you know who I'm talking about. The hundred guys chick. Yeah. I think she
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was raw dogging them. Wasn't she? I don't think so. They're like, I saw after footage and there
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was like a bunch of condoms on the floor. Oh, thank God. Okay. Cause that, that, I mean,
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you don't want to be like a human petri dish that's not cool you're that way either way
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yeah so um did you know anyone with herpes uh yeah i knew um my other cousin not cocaine cousin
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but i have another cousin who's a stripper and she has herpes okay and how does she date does
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she tell the people or no yeah she uses websites there's like special websites for herpes people
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I mean, she's in her 40s, but she's still kind of working the strip economy,
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Or like, have you ever dated girls and they told you they had one?
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Um, so I was living in, you know, Bay Area and, um, I was like early thirties, um, I'm
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There is an absolute ocean of mid women out there who are totally cool with you raw dogging
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Not saying I did it, but like they would not even bring up condoms.
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And did any of them catch anything from those decisions or?
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and then she called me up and basically went nuts
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And I was confused as hell because I'd been pretty responsible
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I went and I go get tested, I paid a hundred bucks,
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For those two days, I'm sitting there, I'm sweating,
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who the hell did I catch it? I'm trying to like do like the like the detective work in my brain
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of like what is the sketchiest chick I banged? How long ago is that? Which other chicks happened
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since then? You know what I'm saying? And so for three days I was freaking out only to have this
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chick call me back and then be like oh never mind it wasn't it wasn't her. I'm like oh cool thanks
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appreciate it. Dang so you like had a heart attack basically. Dude I was dying and I had like a
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a couple of serious girlfriends during that time
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am I gonna have to go to like Elizabeth and the other one
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Well, there's one more thing you might wanna know.
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so you've never had a girl though on a date say she had it?
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No, I mean, it's possible that some of them might have had it,
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but I happen to know that, like, transmission rates from women to men are super low.
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Like, the whole kind of, a lot of the info we're getting about STDs
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is sort of obscured by this kind of cloud of political practice, right?
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Like, the whole AIDS thing, they were trying to make it seem like,
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And same thing with STDs, like normal stuff.
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Like if you're a guy and you're mostly having sex with like middle to upper class women who are like white and Asian, you're probably okay.
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Like you don't have to be too nuts about watching out, basically.
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Yeah, I've been hearing, I'm sorry, with my voice, long story, but anyways, I'm a retired
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And I work also as a physician assistant in the community.
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There is, wow, there's so much information out there, and some of it is correct, some
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is not uh that has been stated uh i mean like for example that if you are hooking up with
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uh you know upper class white females uh you're probably okay no no no no no i was thinking the
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same thing that is incorrect uh you know it's i mean i can tell you stories of crap that i saw
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and i get a couple of people in the on the chat that are i guess prior service and they can agree
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with this because they will know how it goes especially if they're ever going on deployment
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or on a ship my goodness when they come home the sd clinic is just over books give it about a week
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and they're done most commons as usually chlamydia chlamydia and gonorrhea
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sometimes herpes uh is you know it depends if uh if because somebody can literally have herpes
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for a whole year i have no noticeable symptoms because of the way uh it shows up
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For example, you get sores inside the vagina, and you have no sex, no contact.
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You can literally have an outbreak and be unaware of it because urine doesn't come through it, so it doesn't get irritated.
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Usually, if you have chlamydia, you have something called mycoplasma, which is, we call it nongoncoccal
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urethritis, and sometimes they go hand-to-hand.
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and also on that one the symptoms are very similar and because you can go to a clinic
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and get tested for STDs and because you're not testing for
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also go ahead that's also on hiv anybody it's not just gay guys that used to be the case how
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your region is you know got promulgated nowadays it doesn't matter because you could have a what
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we call you know these guys that like to go both ways yeah and go with a woman and give it to her
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because HIV is just a state of carrying the virus.
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As a matter of fact, I have a personal story on that.
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My brother, who is gay, didn't want to listen to my advice,
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listen to my advice, they don't want to at least take care, you know, I guess it will
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go, oh, another misconception that HIV is curable, so therefore, it doesn't matter.
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You can take medications that blocks the promulgation of the virus to get it to a point that it's
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undetectable but if you stop taking that medication it comes back and in some you know in some
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countries that treatment is so expensive that's why people die of AIDS a lot in Africa that's
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unfortunately a sad truth uh but my case my brother you know he wouldn't stop having unprotected sex
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and last year gave me a call crying because he developed into AIDS and last night he called me
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that he wants to see me because uh he's very sick because of it because AIDS what it does
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is shuts off your immune system so anything including a bad call can kill you
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how old is he and did you say he's gay yes he's gay okay i believe you know i'm i'm i'm not you
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know i'm completely i'm not you know i don't approve of it but you know he's my brother
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tried to give him advice i mean it doesn't matter i wasn't going to be able to uh how old is he
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talk him off of him he's 58. well so he actually made it pretty old without getting it right yeah
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Yeah, and he's got a bad case of hepatitis, and because he has no immune system, it's
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Okay, and so you said you worked at an STD clinic in the military?
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In the military, you have doctors, physician assistants, independent duty corpsmen, nurses, and then corpsmen in the Navy.
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Our training is above a nurse practitioner, and we're just below a PA.
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the reason we're not a PS is because the way we developed is the military needed to send a
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provider to the front lines but it is illegal to send somebody a provider to the front lines
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because you know you cannot carry a rifle it goes against the Geneva Convention so the Navy
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circumvented that by the medical corpsman but yes by sending well a corpsman is no longer a
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non-combatant now you're considered a combatant okay so yeah what they've done is they send a
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senior corpsman to medical school did you then right before you graduate it's okay i don't that's
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okay i don't need all the details i just know but anyways uh you know i'm a healthcare provider
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yeah so did you say you got herpes uh and you didn't have symptoms for a year is that we
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no no no no herpes herpes you can literally have it without it here i mean i had couples come in
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you know young couples angry at each other because they uh they wanted to blame each other
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oh for giving it and yeah but the problem is because it can literally you can go a whole year
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in some instances and not know it or sometimes not even have an outbreak so what percent what
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in your experience out of 10 people that get herpes how many have outbreaks right away
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and how many um it's prolonged like they don't get it right away
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the ones that don't get it right away uh pretty pretty small percentage okay so the ones that
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get it is anywhere within seven seven like a week to a month in my interviews that was pretty
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consistent in what they said too so like most people i interviewed it was pretty yeah yeah and
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that's unfortunately the fact in young couples like that i would have to counsel them say you
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what because of that i mean it's kind of because the the girl was that was her first boyfriend
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but the boyfriend was really pissed because he thought he gave her and you know i thought i
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talked to her and then you know one-on-one and you know and she was pretty straightforward and
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he could have got it from a girlfriend that probably she had many guys give it to him
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that have received it for a year and then give it to her and then boom she has an outbreak
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dang so in those cases you gotta kind of be a little a little cautious because you don't
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want to put blame because it can happen unfortunately also here's the thing 90 of
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population has hsv1 it used to be considered nested in no longer now you can have a really
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bad case of edge of one and go down on a woman and guess what and then it goes because yeah
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because now you have those really bad open source which people think they're oh it's just a cold
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or no such thing as a cold sore you know sometimes when people are gonna get them they feel sick
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like they're about to get a cold and you know and then it comes up that's why they call it
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fever blisters so if a guy if a guy or a girl are dating and they know they're going to be sexually
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active are there any ways to really prevent like other than like obviously wear a condom but is
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there anything further people can do in your perspective all other than being honest and
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yeah but people are gonna lie so let's not you know now if and if both want to be uh very
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up front with somebody they can both have uh an std uh you know go to go get it tested
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but people aren't going to do that so like i'm just saying realistically people have to respect
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themselves though i mean i personally if i don't know the person i won't i won't do it
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somebody that is questionable i'll stay lucky yeah i understand but i'm saying
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pragmatically what's going on now is people are hooking up first to third day
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yeah so i'm just asking if there's things they should look for when they're hooking up or if
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they see a like a certain something they should stop okay if there's like if there's you know
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showering after does that help like what what are your do you have any just working in health
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really not uh but what can help is uh you know if you are because i always say you know what
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i'm sorry but if you can if you can't put it in your mouth you shouldn't you shouldn't put it
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in your genitals and you know pretend like you're gonna go down and if there's a
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really funky smell maybe you should not do it other than that uh because there there's uh
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two or you know like for example the trigon the trigomonas that can give you a really foul smell
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really foul smell okay bacterial machinosis can also give you a horrible smell uh but the
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the one for three components my god that i mean it's pretty foul okay horrible foul
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okay so oh and if you see a like a wattish thick discharge you know you might want to
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you know you might want to kind of like you know maybe put on a condom okay white thick
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disc okay if it's uh that's how clear frothy kind of like kind of like clear but he's got
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like bubbles in it you might want to put a condom okay okay because that's usually what
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that's good best practices go ahead you know because that's usually what uh trichomonas
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looks like and when you have uh trichomonas you could uh you could also have chlamydia which
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you know is in a percentage of women have no symptoms yeah don't ask me why
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when i've pulled chlamydia is the most common one i've gotten back that people have gotten
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when i when i pulled but yeah go ahead and chlamydia uh oh no our chlamydia can also
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oh i'm sorry when you have chlamydia you should always take uh the uh michael mycoplasma
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infection because it's a virus because they tend to go hand to hand you know it's just it's just
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the way it is but okay there's all the things that you have to worry about for example nobody's
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talked to talked about something called molluscum contagiosum oh what and molluscum contact useum
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okay okay uh i i i thought i thought in the chat it's called uh let me see
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it's kind of like like like when you talk about like uh uh shellfish you start kind of like some
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of them are molluscum or mollusk it's kind of molluscum contagious and those are like this this
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little uh outbreak they're like this pearly outbreak with this with a hollow center i was
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like a like you have to look at it and when you get it man you'll know it because if you scratch
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it it bleeds a lot and wherever that blood goes new ones come out within a couple of days so
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and uh so i didn't see anything from her but i i guess she had a tiny little one and boom there
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it goes but then once they go away they go away okay okay i mean well anything any questions you
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guys want to ask i mean um i think we covered attractive people for some reason and we talked
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to this in the clinic our theory is because what we saw was usually that
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whenever we had a very attractive woman coming in they have more than one form of std and the reason
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is women by its nature they tend to be a little more cautious on when it comes to sex
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and you usually see a very attractive woman with a medium to a very attractive man
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and those men are the ones that are getting laid a lot
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and they unfortunately some of them tend to cheat and what we saw in the navy is
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the ship will go six months later they'll come in to port and then within a week
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we'll have the wives and a lot of them were very attractive the ones that had acds because of the
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husbands right a lot of them because they went to thailand did you see attractive people coming in
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more than like medium people attractive people the i was just wondering because my thought process
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people will try to convince their wives that uh and wanted me to agree with that they got it from
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sitting on a on a toilet like the old wives tale and i'd be like looking at him like
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you got to give him credit for trying though right yeah did you help him out did you help him out
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here's a funny story okay had a marine came me um came to the clinic
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he goes in he's like doc you gotta help me you gotta help me i've never done this
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but my wife went home for 30 days and i went to the club and you know i was too drunk blah blah
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like okay all right you give me a little bit of that but just whether it's true or not you're
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still going to treat him and you and so and uh you know he got treated
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taken care of two months later wife goes back home for another 30 days
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he comes back for the same crap all right so now i'm like okay i have to consult this guy
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like be stern with them that put rank on him all right he goes he does it again in three more months
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jesus he comes saying like my wife's gonna get i'm like okay no problem i'll take care of you so
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i added to uh because you can uh some medications you know some of these
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adopted the biggest freaking needle I could find.
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Yeah, because he didn't want to go through that again
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at the three hour mark, but thank you for calling in, Joke.
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We really appreciate it. Thanks for all the knowledge.
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I know I love it when people in the clinics call in
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they see so much more you know like they're gonna have you know i interviewed like
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uh maybe five six people i have to think through it but
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you know they they see six people a day you know what i mean at least the clinic people yeah i
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mean they're gonna no no no it's more than that are you crazy i said at least six people a day
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so just so you know in the um in the private sector at a doctor's office
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i know you'll see 20 people a day yeah i know i know i was saying i was i was just doing the
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comparison is like they get more thing in a day than i do cool it we're coming up on
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two hours 45 minutes do you want to take more callers we have one two three three more people
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on the line sure we can take another okay uh i've never seen
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let's just try to um wrap them up like not like just do smaller or sorry michael's coming in
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michael is connecting his audio we're gonna do four minutes or less
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with all the remaining callers what up michael you got herpes
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his audio is connecting connecting to audio what a way to start the call right i just feel like
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let's get right to it who's got it is it you or someone you know okay michael's audio is connecting
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going once going twice going three times and back in the waiting room and let's see gary
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coming in Gary are you there oh hey Gary how's it going good your audio sound
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we're gonna have to drop you and you figure it out
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How's it going, Brad? Do you got the gift that keeps on giving?
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Well, as far as I know, I'm herpes free. But, you know, like so many people out there have said, they don't necessarily get disclosure.
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So I was married faithfully on my end for over 30 years.
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And I didn't find out until we were a couple of years into the marriage and we were expecting our first child that when she went to the OBGYN, they put her on a high risk pregnancy rating.
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What the heck is that all about? Well, apparently they're under no need or no push to disclose even to a husband that there is, you know, potentially something, an STD or something going on down there.
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So apparently she had one of the forms of HPV, and it was noticeable to the doctors that she had something called cervical dysplasia, which I had no idea what that was about, and nobody was forthcoming as far as information, as far as what that is.
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But it's the other viral thing that's HPV as opposed to the HSV one or two.
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And it results in warts and sores and some things like that, which, you know, can make you susceptible to some of the other things.
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Then the other thing was further along into the marriage around our 25th anniversary, she carried on a secret affair with a guy where she managed in spite of still having two kids living at home.
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to arrange to go grocery shopping and shopping in town and be gone for four hours and hook up
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with a guy on the other end of town and was carrying on a secret affair that none of us
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in the family had a clue about for almost two years. And when she, when I finally caught them
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in the act, I, she, you know, I said, you know, I just realized you, you weren't using any
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protection, were you? I mean, this, who knows what this, this guy you're with. I mean, you just
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assumed. He's free and clear, but you know, who knows what he's got? Do you need, before we get
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back into bed ever again, because we were talking about reconciling. Not that I wanted to simp,
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but we had 25 years invested in it and four kids behind us. And, you know, I was willing to,
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you know, still give it a shot if, if she was. So yeah, it never occurred to her. It was like
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the light bulb went, you could literally see the light bulb light up over her head, like in
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cartoon it was like oh oh yeah oh yeah so she then went in to the doctor to get tests run you know
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and up until that time it was like you know hands hands and everything else off because who knows
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what i was subjected to so uh did she come back clean or no yeah she did come back clean which
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amazed me because one of the things that was kind of like a side benefit if you can believe it
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of the aftermath of the affair was that, you know, she still was not in a position financially yet
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if I'd kicked her to the curb to make it on her own. So she still had a vested interest in,
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you know, trying to make nice with me so that, you know, I would keep her,
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keep a roof over her head and keep her supplied with the dailies. So she also at that point had
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nothing morally to lose because all the pretenses she'd been making about being such a good girl
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kind of went out the window. So I inquired further into her past. I knew she'd been active in her
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teens and she admitted to me she never used contraception, never used protection. I don't
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know how that girl went through all the years of high school and up until we got married
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without catching something. But apparently she did catch HPV. Fortunately, it doesn't seem like
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she got anything worse than that. Well, when they're younger, they can fight it off easier.
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so if she had a ho phase in like high school you're less likely to well there's I think you're
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more likely to get it because they have more STDs like I think people use protection more when they
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get older but but the the girls have stronger immune systems when they're younger if that
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makes sense so like if she was in shape like sometimes they can just fight it off well you
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going back you know i've mentioned before i've been on uh on your talk line before uh going back
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into the 70s there was a lot of promiscuity going on um and so you know there was a girl in my class
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that had to leave early because she was pregnant and we did have people that the big thing back
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then was syphilis and gonorrhea which was absolutely nasty and there were cases where
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people get tagged with that um so i'm not sure i mean i just you know i just marveled at the fact
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that it wasn't we didn't wind up having to deal with anything worse but it never occurred to her
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even as a husband you know of a wife that you know she could potentially by her fooling around
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bring something home that i didn't ask for how how old was she when she was pregnant like how old
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was she when she got the hpv well let's see we got married um based on where the months of our
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our birth years fall. She was 20 and I was 21. Oh, wow. She had HPV that early? I heard you don't
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get, because I spoke to a doctor about HPV and they said mid to late 30s is usually when women
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get that. So if she had that at 21, she must have started early. She ran through a bunch of people.
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I mean, originally, you know, there was not a lot of disclosure and because I thought I knew her
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off and on from the time we were in our preteens that I had a pretty good idea who she was.
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But I, you know, we went to two different high schools. And so her group of people she
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circulated with were not directly connected to mine. And I didn't have a constant eye on her.
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So I had no idea. She was very, very promiscuous. And I didn't find out until later a little bit
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more detail once we were married. And she felt like she didn't have anything to lose by giving
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me much more disclosure and details and that it would actually maybe help her situation because
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you know i could have kicked her to the curb at that point and said hey look i'm going to divorce
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you on the grounds of of unfaithfulness and then she wouldn't have a leg stand on and that she
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wasn't ready for that so but i did have two friends when i was coming up in the 80s right
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after we got out of school one was about 10 years older than me so he was in his early to mid 30s
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and he drove a limo for a living. And he got, it went back in those days, like your previous
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caller mentioned, it didn't hang around as HIV. It went straight into full-blown AIDS. And these
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guys, they lost weight. You could see physically how the body was like deteriorating from the
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inside out. And then, you know, one day they were no longer in the public eye. And the other one
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was, he was a fellow I went to high school with. He was a classmate. His family and I were good
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friends i was close with his parents and his older brother and they moved him out of the hospital
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during the end of his life into a hospital bed downstairs in what used to be the family den
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and had like a miniature hospital room set up for him there and he literally wasted away i mean his
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eyes clouded over like he had glaucoma his cheeks sunk in were they both gay see that's the thing
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they were both buried oh now the younger one yeah the younger one said his wife would was his wife
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went off in a storm because she said she tested after he was diagnosed with it, and she was
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tested with full-blown AIDS. And so it was basically like, you've killed me, and I don't
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blame her. She wouldn't talk to him ever again. So in that circumstance, the claim was that he
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was the one that contracted it. We don't know in either case, because they were both supposedly
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publicly they were straight men with wives whether they were on the down low by curious or having
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gay sex on the side or whether they contracted it from a woman like would you guess were they
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fruity or no no not really I mean they were of course back in those days especially you know we
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had expressions like smear the queer and bag the fag I mean if anybody even seemed like you gotta
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watch the language man you can't drop that f word which one the f or oh the f i'm sorry about don't
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ever say that okay okay i get it i forget we're in different times and it's just and the q word
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don't say that either the q word okay well so we had those two uh inappropriate expressions back
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then um and i don't support the use of them and i know this channel doesn't um but it just goes to
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show the hostility that was openly out there in those days and people got beaten up even on the
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suspicion of something like that so any conversation you know that might have revealed something along
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those lines was very very very guarded yeah okay cool well thanks for calling in and telling us
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the stories i appreciate it absolutely you all have a good night and thanks again yeah you too
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always good talking to you buddy i'm gonna read the super chats okay um these people are at parties
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or hanging out with someone who knows nothing about their sex life.
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Percent of the population is a false statement.
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If you see a hot woman who's promiscuous, she is that percent.
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Whether she's one out of 20 or one out of four, all these people are loners.
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Oh, actually, when you're talking about the bi guys,
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but I just, I just unmatched him because I don't know. I like looked closer at the profile and like him in person. I just changed my mind. I was like, no. And anyways, long story short, I was working out at the gym and someone, I never talked to him like in person. Like we just matched on the app for a day. Unmatched. That was it. And I'd never spoken to him in person, but someone I knew introduced me to him a different day. And they're like, oh, and that's his boyfriend. And I was like, oh my God, that's how women get aged.
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Yeah, because I was like, why are you on Bumble?
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So a condom doesn't cover the base of the twig
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Or the berries, which is the area that gets the most
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but a lot of guys who i wouldn't care if my girls by i'm not down for that either man
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no anyone that has that weird kind of sexuality confusion fluid crap no thanks new um sorry
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avery i'm i'm glad no one wants to do me um wisdom king for hsv take oh wait i read that already
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alex is joining all right gary i'm trying you again your audio better be okay
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gary yeah am i better oh so much better what's up gary you got herpes
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no no herpes for me i do have a story i got actually i got a confession okay
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someone hello someone killed yeah i'm kidding um what's the confession
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well i'm like hearing i'm hearing the stream because you have youtube open in the background
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somewhere okay i got it sorry about that so yeah basically i do not have herpes as far as i know
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uh my confession though is that listening to this stream it did give me uh i did a lot of googling
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while the stream was going on and like i am a bit concerned i'm probably gonna get myself tested
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this week because apparently you could have herpes and be asymptomatic so i mean i've never
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had an outbreak but i also like do not routinely get tested and i do routinely hook up and i actually
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wanted to i guess i'm gonna snitch a little bit too because when i hear people talk about like
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their condom use and that kind of stuff it makes me question if they're even getting laid because
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like i don't think people are using condoms in my experience most people are not and in fact
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the last time i could even remember myself suggesting using a condom like the the woman
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in question like she took it as an offense and the time before that it was kind of the same deal
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that like me suggesting it or pulling it out was kind of like i just brought into the conversation
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the idea of stds when really like especially if you're gonna sleep together after just a short
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period of time it's kind of like well you're vibing and everything's good so we like each
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other it's almost awkward and and it's treated that way yeah nobody's gonna that's why the guy
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was saying to get tested first i'm like nobody's gonna do that like they're just not yeah and in
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fact so like i do have some sense of my cleanliness i guess because like i've been in three long-term
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relationships i guess over the past decade and then each time which is honestly laughable when
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we were getting more serious at all three times and i guess it makes sense because if i intend to
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get serious with somebody i'm a little bit like i'm honest and i and we talk about our past a bit
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i mean i don't ever think that i've gotten a full uh carfax on a girl that's not something they
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really do but there typically is a conversation where we talk about what exclusivity looks like
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and that kind of stuff and then all three of my last relationships they asked me to get tested
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and then confession time again I did not get tested I literally just waited for them to get
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tested and once they said they were good I was like yeah I'm good too because I mean we'd already
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been sleeping together for like two to three months so I'd imagine I must not have anything
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i would have given it to them so how often how often do you get tested i've never been i got
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tested once in college and yeah not clear i don't get tested but to me it's like i like what like
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the last guy the last medical guy he made me feel a little bit better because i definitely number
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one i don't i've never gone down on a chick unless we were in a relationship again i know that's not
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like a great barrier as far as protection goes but then i also do like a visual inspection like i
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don't i don't really interact in any way if anything seems off visually and again have you
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ever gotten there and changed your mind like you saw something we're like yeah absolutely really
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what'd you see i've seen something questionable on the thigh and like i actually when you talk
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about herpes so i got two quick stories one actually was not a story but the one closest
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person to me that i knew that had herpes i had a boss and we actually we ran like a logistics
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company it was his company but it was a small company so we actually used to dispatch out of
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his house and like his his home office and i like had been working in his office at one point when
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he was dealing with an outbreak and he was kind of giving me the play-by-play as he was like
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treating himself and he was like specifically it was very much uh centered on his thighs so that
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made me aware that oh i didn't even know that i thought like genital herpes makes me think
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it's on your genitals right he his were not on his junk it was on his thigh so at one point i i was
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getting with the chick and then yeah i saw something questionable on her thigh and i just
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made an excuse and got out of there what was the excuse you made i said i didn't feel good which
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true actually yeah i was like i i actually think i'm gonna throw up which i wasn't that sick but
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i i really felt like oh my god like i like i dodged a bullet because i mean the thigh is
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almost scarier because how are you not going to come in contact with somebody's thigh what was it
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like a blister i i never got close enough to to really be able to tell but it did it just looked
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it looked um just red and agitated honestly it could have been it could have been a bad bug bite
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but from as far as i was sitting oh you just you weren't you weren't testing it you were like no
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i'm not gonna find out today never talked to her again either and i have actually a story just from
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a couple of weeks ago i matched with a girl on a dating app and we talked for like three four days
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set up a date and then literally as i was getting ready to leave my house she she she messaged me
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said hey by the way i have the herb is that a deal break i honestly debated whether i was even gonna
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message her back but i did i did let her know that yeah absolutely it's a deal breaker but it really
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like since then i have not used the apps and i probably will return at some point but um it's
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it it is it's scary out there i could only imagine i'm like they say that men are less susceptible
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to this stuff and i could only imagine that at some point i probably slept with somebody that
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has something and i've just been dodging bullets and maybe not like i'm gonna get tested and
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i don't still don't know how i feel about the whole hooking up thing but well how many
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how many women do you hook up with a year would you say uh it's it obviously depends on the year
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not not a crazy amount like because i i honestly so again confession time part of the reason i
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almost cannot use uh condoms is because just like i guess the combination of hookup culture and corn
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like i can't get stimulated enough to even finish when i don't have the condom on or sorry when i
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do have the condom on and then i i again that actually and i think i i've talked to other guys
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that have this problem but i never hear it talked about in red pill spaces is that if you if you use
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a condom and then you can't finish girls take offense to that too they it's almost like you're
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inadvertently calling them ugly and and and it's like why can't you finish and what's wrong with me
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and they literally will like start having kind of uh uh uh existential crisis type of thing and and
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like all of a sudden now you have to like reassure them that they're beautiful they're desirable and
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all this different stuff when it's like to me it's just simpler to just take the condom off and
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honestly i really only hook up when i just feel like i've kind of been dry for a while so going
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back to the original question last year actually i had a girlfriend for half of the year and then
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when i was single i probably hooked up with like six or seven chicks okay well it's not like you're
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like so that's in a year seven or eight um well that's not like like i've heard worse so yeah no
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i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not chad or tyrone yeah and um but that that's that to me though
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it actually is more telling because well it's also how many times did you hook up with them
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because like it we said earlier like if someone has something and you hook up with them once
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you're not really that likely to get it right if it's and it's also it's also too when they got
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infected because if they were just infected they're more likely to spread it but if the
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girl caught it like five years ago it's not really that likely that she'll spread it
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um allegedly according according to what i've read you know i'm not a doctor
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pearl you're making me feel better about this which is not a good thing i'm just going to keep
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doing more risky stuff well i hope you're right well i mean well i hope you know that if you do
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get it a lot of the guys just lie and keep having sex and that was that was the last point and i'll
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finish here is that what i was thinking is that like i have again as a guy we don't care about
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how attractive our friends are so i have friends that are very successful with women much more
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successful than me and i have friends that are that they struggle really bad so based on outcomes
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i'd imagine that i'm probably somewhere in the top 25 and again that's just based on how
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women judge us superficially on an act like i i don't imagine i'm just better than this many
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people but my results are probably in the top 25 i know guys that are probably in the top five
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or maybe even yeah like let's say top five because it's hard to know who's in the top one percent
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that's probably like athletes and rappers and stuff like that none of my friends are people
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And do you know of any of them having STD scares?
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My biggest player friends have basically all been burnt before.
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Yeah, and they've been lucky enough to not get herpes,
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as far as I know, or they might not have told me.
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Yeah, gonorrhea, which I guess they don't necessarily get symptoms from.
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yeah comedia gonorrhea no symptoms for for most people but that but they get the drip they call
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it right those two aren't bad is what i've heard is like you take an antibiotic and it's done
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it's not like herpes or hiv which kills you so yeah exactly i mean that's yeah going back to the
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hiv thing too i've never it like i've never in in like i guess 22 years of being sexually active
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i've never known of a straight person to have hiv i haven't either oh i don't know anybody
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wait so your player friends though none of them i can second that too i've never met do you think
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your player do you think your player friend would tell you if they got herpes i think they would
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yeah i think i think they'd be ashamed but i mean we tell each other pretty much everything and like
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especially like some of them are even more like it's almost like they they enjoy the the kind of
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grotesque conversation so i had imagined they some of them would have told me for sure i question if
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others would have also be as honest in that case do they do they wear condoms the player friends
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no no no okay and again girls don't like it i mean and honestly i think my my like the the player
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guys if you can get a if you get a girl to like you enough in a short period of time then i think
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that you'd probably also get her to be okay with the condoms uh but that's kind of why i referenced
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them in the first place because to me i know i'm not like that top five percent guy so like i i i
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know that i'm actually risking messing up the whole encounter by by trying to push the condo
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because it's almost like a lot of times i can see the level of attraction that i have going on it's
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almost like i've passed the barrier of yes they will sleep with me yeah but if i if i do something
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to weird make this situation weird it could all go away so like no i don't imagine asking for an
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std tab like that is not gonna happen like come on oh you're offending them you're telling her
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she's dirty or like something made you think they're not so i forgot one of the callers said
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that i'm like yeah good luck like come on yeah i'm just gonna have like a a mini test kit by the bed
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a little consent form right by the candle yeah i know um but yeah i just wanted to mention that
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Because it is always odd to me that when the condom conversation comes up,
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I don't imagine that all these guys who are either like the red pill content
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producers or the people that you see interacting,
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like in Colin shows that they're all top 1% because I just don't think the
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average guy can whip out a condom and not mess up the whole situation.
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Do I get MPAD of thoughts on that with women in condoms?
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um they say there are major cities like atlanta baltimore where the women will take offense if
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you try to whip out one um in my opinion comes just you just use them especially on the first
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couple of days man like you the first especially if you're banging a girl on the first night
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you gotta have one man come on now well you see the problem is doug is like i said is that i
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typically only kind of dip my my foot back in the dating pool when i'm like trying to like
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bust the slump or like like so it's like for me to just be like adding in layers of protection
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it's also like i'm wasting more of my time just trying to like like clear the pipes you know well
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you know you could get the gift that keeps on giving no you're right you're right no this show
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honestly it's made me really consider either just just taking the hit and and and putting in the
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extra time that it would take to have condoms be a thing or or just like not care as much
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about hooking up because it is uh it is a minefield out out there even like i live in
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in should we say what city where we live in does it matter if you want yeah go ahead yeah so i
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live in phoenix i was originally from canada and uh i moved here when i was 21 so i was just old
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enough to go out and uh drink and go to the bars and stuff like that and like uh the first couple
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of months that i lived here i i had like uh picked up a chick for the first time and went back to her
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place and this this girl was like uh maybe just slightly above average looking uh she if i think
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most people if they saw her they would probably assume this is the kind of girl that is not
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promiscuous um she was uh long story short and then after we hooked up like i kind of expressed
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to her that like i'm surprised that things progressed as quickly as they did and then
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she proceeded to tell me about one of her friends who she showed me as well who did absolutely like
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she looked like a librarian she actually was a librarian she looked like the kind of girl that
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you would probably have to date for months before she gave it up and this girl told me that this
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girl not only had herpes but she did not tell guys unless they asked yeah that's one of the um one of
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the guys i interviewed that's what he said he said if they don't care then why do i he said these
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girls they don't they don't want to wear condoms they don't ask me if they don't care about their
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health i don't either so yeah and honestly and that's how a lot of them view it they're like
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yeah i mean they didn't ask and honestly maybe that happened for a reason because
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for the first few years that i lived in america i was a condom all the time guy because that story
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okay well i'm gonna drop gary off and we can end the show there okay well this wasn't a fun
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conversation but somebody has to do it and i'm glad we did it here at the audacity network
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shout out to doug mpa um thanks for you know helping research for the show and doing the
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dirty work out there as always yeah as always yeah you've been wanting to do this show for
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for a while you know yeah it's rough rough yeah well i just i think it's a big part of dating
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that nobody talks about like nobody talks about this in the right get 50 bodies okay how do you
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do that without getting herpes you know what i mean it's like when they tell like myron says
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his stuff or whatever yeah and it's just it's a numbers game man like all your player friends
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that are men and women they got something man i don't know like then also the one i mean you
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just never know because you have you could have one guy who gets with the whores but then
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the good girls go for that you know go for that one guy and now she has it too you know
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it's like dang yeah or the nice guy gets a girlfriend that's a demon yeah and she cheats
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yeah something yeah it's you don't know okay um all right guys well thanks so much for watching
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