Pearl - Modern Women REFUSE to Hold Other Women Accountable! Lindsay Clancy Trial @TheBrancaShow

00:00:00.000 Did you think that Lindsay Clancy's defense attorney did, or the prosecution, did a good job?

00:00:05.860 No. From a technical perspective, were they saying the right things? Yes, but they're in a

00:00:10.600 courtroom. They're in a trial. And a big part of a trial is the theater of the trial. And you just

00:00:15.140 juxtapose how low energy they were compared to the defense counsel, Kevin Reddington for Lindsay

00:00:21.340 Clancy, who, whatever you may think of him as a person, and he certainly has his faults,

00:00:25.300 He zealously advocated for his client.

00:00:27.940 He was 150% energy every moment he was in that courtroom.

00:00:31.920 He did a fantastic job for that monster of a client.

00:00:35.340 Right.

00:00:35.740 So what do you think about, like, how will this mass hysteria impact court proceedings in the future?

00:00:41.380 I mean, they tell you the future is female, right?

00:00:43.180 They just say it outright.

00:00:44.480 Why would a man want to be a juror now that the juror's been doxxed?

00:00:49.380 Why would anyone want to be a juror?

00:00:50.820 yeah but like i would just imagine because men are can you imagine what it was like for him

00:00:57.260 i mean i just think about this the one holdout and now the women jurors have done interviews

00:01:02.260 right so we've seen them yeah and they just they just chatter over each other like a bunch of hens

00:01:07.600 that have been set on fire and this guy had to sit there and listen to that it's like you ever

00:01:13.160 walk into a birdhouse like at a zoo or something and it's so incredibly noisy there's so much

00:01:17.180 noise going on. It must have been like that. And he did it for a week. Every day he woke up in the

00:01:23.200 morning and knew, I've got to do this for another eight hours today. My favorite clip was when

00:01:29.540 they're like, yeah, he just couldn't get over the fact that she murdered her kid. And they said

00:01:35.040 that so confidently as if that, like, it's so crazy because the female jurors, I'm like, how 0.99

00:01:42.380 are you confidently saying this on camera and you don't see anything wrong yeah a big problem when 1.00

00:01:49.020 people approach these things from an emotional perspective which is generally what women do 0.99

00:01:53.260 is that they don't ask the right legal question so they can't get the right legal answer the right 0.98

00:01:57.820 legal question is you know was she suffering psychosis when she killed her kids or or uh

00:02:02.380 subject to an irresistible compulsion to kill her kids uh and the evidence clearly says no

00:02:07.980 but they don't like that answer they would have to convict her so they changed the question they

00:02:11.900 They changed the question to something that's not relevant in the courtroom. 1.00

00:02:14.540 Like, oh, we need better mental health care for women.

00:02:17.620 That could be true, but it doesn't change anything about what she did.

00:02:20.420 Well, what more did she need? 1.00

00:02:21.740 She seemed to have gotten plenty of health care.

00:02:24.060 Well, it clearly wasn't enough, Pearl.

00:02:26.340 Well, I don't. 1.00

00:02:27.200 It's like when women can't be happy. 1.00

00:02:28.760 It's like you give them everything, right? 1.00

00:02:30.220 You can give them Tom Brady, and they still won't be happy.

00:02:33.740 Right.

00:02:34.240 No matter what they did for this woman in terms of her psychiatric care,

00:02:37.400 we had a bad outcome, right? 0.85

00:02:39.020 She ended up killing her kids, so clearly men failed her somehow.

00:02:41.900 Yeah, it couldn't have been. So what do you think are the biggest misconceptions about that case?

00:02:46.480 I think people don't understand what psychosis means or what an irresistible compulsion is.

00:02:52.520 And they look at edge cases that could happen. It's another thing that women do differently than men, right?

00:02:58.420 So men, we go out in the world and we hunt and we build businesses and companies and there's risks and all those things.

00:03:05.260 And so we have to be able to assess the risks accurately or we die on the hunt or our business fails, right?

00:03:10.740 So we're always looking at probabilities.

00:03:13.380 There's never a 0% risk or you can't accomplish anything, but you try to mitigate the risk.

00:03:17.800 You try to get the probabilities on your side, favor your enterprise, whatever you're doing. 1.00

00:03:22.200 Women take a completely different approach. 1.00

00:03:23.880 They don't look at probability at all. 1.00

00:03:25.240 They look at possibility.

00:03:26.960 They just envision the best case scenario.

00:03:29.460 If everything goes perfectly, I'll be a millionaire by the end of the year if everything goes perfect.

00:03:34.460 But of course, nothing ever does.

00:03:35.660 Right. So with these women, it's like she is not guilty by reason of insanity.

00:03:41.200 Lindsay Clancy, if she was operating, she killed her kids while subject to psychosis, which means a detachment from reality. 1.00

00:03:47.860 She thinks she's killing space aliens. She doesn't know she's killing her kids or she's subject to an irresistible compulsion, which would be like someone's walking by you in the kitchen and you just stab them for no reason. 0.84

00:03:59.260 like right you know but but all the evidence is inconsistent there was never any evidence of

00:04:04.860 psychosis ever until she talked to a defense lawyer after killing her kid and they needed it

00:04:09.340 for the defense then they found a doctor who apparently can go back in time and scan brains

00:04:14.140 and say yeah i never examined her before but now i i'm just going to testify that she had psychosis

00:04:18.460 when she killed her well how do they find these is this just if you pay a doctor enough money

00:04:23.340 they'll say anything yeah there's like big fat books of experts you just open up the book and

00:04:27.100 and you start calling people until they give you the answer you want,

00:04:29.440 and that's the guy you retain.

00:04:30.560 Oh, really?

00:04:31.120 Yep. 1.00

00:04:31.880 Okay, so why are there so many women that, 0.91

00:04:34.760 because, you know, I argued, I went to Vegas on Sean Kelly's podcast,

00:04:38.620 and I argued with Lindsay Clancy supporters that she did, in fact, do it.

00:04:45.040 And I said that all I needed to know was that she admitted it,

00:04:48.660 but they all think that it was a false confession, and the husband did it.

00:04:54.160 Do you think there's any of these conspiracy theories

00:04:56.900 that have any volition at all no none of them and and again it's all like a 0.02 percent

00:05:02.980 possibilities is there any way the husband could have killed the kids i can't see it but if there

00:05:08.200 were it would be infinitesimal right right this notion of psychosis uh she did a lot of planning

00:05:13.460 right she sent her husband on an errand while she was killing her kids she called him again sent 0.98

00:05:17.760 him on an extra errand so she'd have more time to finish killing the kids uh she got the she went 0.54

00:05:22.600 sequentially up and down the stairs one kid at a time bringing them down to the basement this was 1.00

00:05:26.880 all organized then she dropped herself out the window uh she had uh she tried to cut herself 1.00

00:05:32.080 with a knife that's the funniest thing one of the female jurors said well you know we had real doubts

00:05:36.000 about her guilt because the knife the knife was dull and i'm thinking to myself all right well 0.88

00:05:42.400 first of all it's her house it's her knife right if anyone would know which knife in the house was

00:05:48.080 the dull one she would know why would she pick the dull knife if she was actually trying to kill

00:05:52.800 herself. And she's a nurse. We all know where the carotid is. That's where you can take a pulse 0.99

00:05:57.920 on someone's neck. We all know where the radial artery is in the wrist. She would certainly know

00:06:02.220 as a nurse, but she manages to cut the wrong part of her neck. I mean, it just doesn't look 0.99

00:06:06.060 realistic. Okay. So you don't think she was actually trying to kill herself? No, I don't

00:06:10.000 think so. Do you think she's, so the paralysis, you don't think? It was bad luck. It was bad

00:06:15.740 planning on her. She screwed up. You know, I actually had a girl say that she thinks she's 0.86

00:06:20.980 faking the paralysis. Do you think that's possible? No, I don't think it's possible.

00:06:25.540 Yeah. Cause her argument, the girl in Vegas was saying that because when she was young,

00:06:30.900 she faked paralysis. There's very simple examinations that doctor can do to affirm

00:06:38.660 whether or not you have healing in your lower body. Yeah. I spent like two days just hearing

00:06:42.840 the wildest arguments, like something about her body. It would have been funny though, right? Like

00:06:46.540 she got acquitted and she just jumped out of the chair a little dance okay but how do we get to

00:06:51.500 the point where 11 jurors are saying not guilty by reason of insanity like how are we in a world

00:06:58.140 that's even nine of them were women yeah and two of them were cucks and then they had one guy yeah

00:07:03.340 so that's how you end up 11 to one um and i also think the prosecution one of the things the

00:07:09.180 prosecution did terribly was they they did not understand their audience that's that's part of

00:07:14.140 of the theater of it you make different arguments to different kinds of people uh if you had an

00:07:18.920 all-male jury you would make different arguments than you would make to an all-woman jury and they 0.97

00:07:23.060 came out as if they had an all-male jury uh she's a lindsey clancy is a schemer she planned this 1.00

00:07:29.460 she's a monster that'll work with guys guys look at her and say oh she strangled her kids together 1.00

00:07:34.160 makes sense to me but women are like oh poor lindsey you can't sell that narrative to a jury 1.00

00:07:40.160 and they knew they had it started with 12 female jurors and six men that had an 18 jury pool and 1.00

00:07:46.980 then they dismiss you know six of them are alternates but you know statistically at a

00:07:51.540 minimum you're going to have six women on the jury you have to right and you're probably going

00:07:56.120 to have a majority of women on the jury and you needed to take a very different argument to those

00:08:00.420 people you had you had to put it much softer right and listen we feel sorry for Lindsay too

00:08:05.560 She was being traumatized by her depression and the postpartum.

00:08:10.760 And we've all been there, ladies.

00:08:12.240 She was on her period, too. 0.99

00:08:13.720 And you get hormonal.

00:08:15.700 And we're very sympathetic.

00:08:17.160 We wish more had been done for her.

00:08:19.000 But it's still murder.

00:08:20.760 That's the tact they should have taken.

00:08:22.680 Instead, they came out hyper-aggressive. 1.00

00:08:24.520 And instantly, all those female jurors were on Lindsay's side. 0.98

00:08:27.640 What did you think about the mother, the grandmother?

00:08:31.240 That was the craziest testimony to me.

00:08:33.940 It was like the grandmother was defending the woman who killed her grandkids.

00:08:38.560 Yeah, the husband too.

00:08:39.460 Yeah, what?

00:08:39.840 I think it's kind of self-defense, mental self-defense.

00:08:44.140 Because otherwise they share a culpability.

00:08:47.200 Right.

00:08:47.680 If they can say, look, she was fine.

00:08:50.480 She was a great mother.

00:08:51.620 She was a great wife.

00:08:52.780 And then her mental illness, something just snapped.

00:08:55.500 It was completely unpredictable.

00:08:56.920 Nobody could have known, especially me.

00:08:58.840 Oh, but she had said that she had those thoughts.

00:09:02.540 Depression.

00:09:03.020 She had what are called intrusive thoughts, like, you know, I'm thinking about hurting myself. 0.99

00:09:08.740 But that's different than what they claimed later was a psychotic command voice, a voice telling you, kill the kids, kill the kids, like it's from outside your body. 0.92

00:09:18.000 That's very different.

00:09:18.820 What do you think about how they're saying it was a false confession?

00:09:22.240 Because that was the biggest argument I heard.

00:09:24.740 And I just, like, I'm not a lawyer, obviously.

00:09:28.120 Sure.

00:09:28.240 But I just think about when somebody does something wrong.

00:09:31.880 i don't know if i buy and i'm curious your take the the false confessions because i feel like when

00:09:38.160 people do the wrong thing they admit it like right away because they feel guilty or they feel so like

00:09:42.620 the emotions come in and then later they're like oh i didn't mean that so to me it would make just

00:09:48.080 in my personal experience of like um if somebody does the wrong thing it's see i've never met

00:09:54.200 anybody that falsely confessed to something like it's always that they're changing it later because

00:09:58.960 they regret confessing it can happen it can be a problem usually it involves a high degree of

00:10:04.800 coercion so someone's being interrogated for hours and hours at a time they're not allowed to sleep

00:10:09.660 and the pressure keeps putting on more and more and then they they just they they'll confess to

00:10:15.180 a little tiny thing and then you build from that you get them to confess to other things so it's

00:10:19.320 definitely possible to coerce a confession of people with lindsay it was a different situation

00:10:23.780 though what they're actually saying is uh she had no recollection of anything that happened and so

00:10:28.160 when she came out of her coma, they just told her you killed your kids. And she was like, oh my God,

00:10:33.220 I killed my kids. And is it theoretically possible someone else did it and just told her that she'd

00:10:37.980 done it. And then she's confessing to what she was told happened. Is that possible? I guess so,

00:10:44.680 but it doesn't matter because there's tons of other evidence that she killed the kids. What

00:10:49.280 if she'd never confessed anything? What if she'd not only broken her back, but God willing broken

00:10:53.560 her larynx, right? Couldn't talk. She was mute. It wouldn't matter. She was the only one in the

00:10:57.820 house with the kids. Her DNA is on the ends of the elastic cords she used to kill them. 1.00

00:11:02.860 There's no other narrative that fits the evidence in terms of who killed the children.

00:11:06.680 Yeah. What do you think about her lawyer? What was he doing now? He's saying that she didn't do

00:11:15.600 it? I don't know. That picture that just came out of her smiling after he did that was like the most,

00:11:22.200 she looks demonic in that picture.

00:11:24.940 So there's a couple of awkward things there, right?

00:11:27.020 If you're in trial all day, you're sitting at that defendant's table all day as the defendant and you're doing it for weeks, your facial expression tends, you know, somebody says something and you smile and then it gets caught on a camera, right?

00:11:38.780 We always tell defendants, you got to keep completely stone faced the entire time.

00:11:43.200 You can have no, no facial expression at all because whatever facial expression you have is going to be the wrong one for somebody.

00:11:50.140 The other question is him now saying she didn't do it.

00:11:53.520 He had initially argued that this should really

00:11:56.100 be a two-stage trial. 0.94

00:11:58.840 The first stage should be, well, did she kill the kids? 1.00

00:12:02.460 Just like a straight up murder trial. 1.00

00:12:04.780 Call it the guilt phase of the trial.

00:12:07.300 Prove, the state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt

00:12:09.280 that she's the one that took the kids down to the basement 0.99

00:12:11.060 and strangled them down there.

00:12:13.000 And there she could be found not guilty, right?

00:12:14.600 The state, in theory, could fail to prove their case

00:12:17.260 and she could be acquitted.

00:12:18.680 But even if she was found guilty,

00:12:20.760 then you'd have a second stage where you'd say,

00:12:22.420 all right, we've concluded she killed the kids,

00:12:25.000 but was she insane at the time?

00:12:27.540 And have a completely independent phase. 0.99

00:12:30.420 What they did was they forced them,

00:12:31.900 because this was proper Massachusetts law,

00:12:34.480 but Massachusetts law says you can't bifurcate it like that.

00:12:37.440 You have to do it all together.

00:12:39.180 And that puts the defense in a very awkward position.

00:12:41.560 It's a lot like a self-defense case,

00:12:43.140 in the sense that when you claim self-defense

00:12:45.400 as a justification for shooting a robber or something,

00:12:48.740 you're not saying it wasn't me, I didn't do it,

00:12:51.260 an alibi i was someplace else you're saying i did it i shot that guy right but i did it in justified

00:12:58.380 self-defense okay so you're effectively conceding you're not confessing to a crime but you're

00:13:03.100 conceding to the underlying conduct so is that for the next trial that's why he was saying

00:13:08.620 is that because he's trying to get the next trial split basically uh well he's making the argument

00:13:13.820 now because he's he's trying to get a certain outcome now he doesn't want to go to trial oh

00:13:17.740 So what he's saying is, listen, when you made me combine these two phases into one,

00:13:23.720 essentially I was obliged to concede that she was the one who killed the kids

00:13:28.900 because otherwise the insanity defense doesn't make any sense, right?

00:13:32.140 And I'm making both arguments in front of the same juror.

00:13:34.940 But reality, if I could have bifurcated it, we would have fought on the elements of the murder first

00:13:39.740 and only done insanity later if we had to.

00:13:43.120 But you forced me to concede that she had done it.

00:13:46.500 We don't really think she did it, uh, is what he's arguing now.

00:13:50.400 And they're saying that he did some sort of malpractice. Is that true?

00:13:54.900 Or I've heard that argument. I don't know the volition behind it.

00:13:58.240 Maybe that he might, I mean, he helped docs that juror, the holdout juror.

00:14:01.740 He helped docs. Well, he referred to him, he referred to him as him, for example.

00:14:06.540 So there was only three dudes on the jury. Yeah.

00:14:10.000 Um, and he knew the guy's name because the lawyers know,

00:14:13.880 because they know the names when the juror's going through voir dire and then his wife started

00:14:18.220 talking about the case the lawyer's wife starts talking about the case on social media and then

00:14:22.560 somehow a journalist a local journalist gets the name of the juror it's like well where did it come

00:14:26.600 from how did how did the local journalist get it maybe from kevin rennington i thought i don't know

00:14:31.240 i don't think we'll ever know he he does some sketchy stuff i mean he's he's been a very high

00:14:37.060 profile criminal defense lawyer in the boston area for decades but you know he's got like a couple

00:14:41.940 million worth of IRS liens on his home for unpaid taxes, like 2.37 million. What is that? So he

00:14:49.040 just hasn't paid taxes? He hasn't paid his taxes. The IRS has. Oh, okay. So they put millions of

00:14:54.600 dollars in liens on his home. I just saw something that the juror was going to sue him for some sort

00:14:58.720 of malpractice. And how, how was he trying to get the juror taken off? Like what, could you explain

00:15:04.800 the part where like he said something trying to get the juror taken off or saying he wasn't

00:15:09.360 following instructions. Right. So one of the women jurors sent out a note saying, hey, we have this

00:15:16.740 one holdout. He says he has doubt about guilt, but he won't vote not guilty. And if you have

00:15:22.100 reasonable doubt about guilt, you're supposed to vote not guilty. That's what you're ordered to do

00:15:25.820 by the judge. Now, of course, there's a difference between doubt and reasonable doubt. Those are two

00:15:30.460 different things. For example, as a jury, you never know with absolute certainty what happened

00:15:34.640 in some event. You weren't there when it happened. So it's possible to have some doubt. You're not

00:15:41.200 100% certain, but it's not reasonable doubt. It's not enough to acquit somebody. They conflate those

00:15:46.460 two things, doubt and reasonable doubt, to make people not understand what's actually happening

00:15:50.260 here. But they sent out that note. And if the note were true, if the guy had reasonable doubt

00:15:54.800 and he was not voting not guilty, he was not following his oath as a juror. And that would

00:16:01.160 have been a proper reason to remove him as a juror and replace him with one of the alternates who

00:16:05.560 were still available. They were still around. Instead, what the judge did was said, well,

00:16:10.260 I'm just going to call a mistrial. Massachusetts law says you shouldn't call a mistrial unless

00:16:15.120 there's no alternative. There was an alternative. In theory, you could have replaced them with an

00:16:20.020 alternate juror. The reason that matters is when you have your, we have a prohibition on double

00:16:26.400 jeopardy in this country. If you're tried for a crime once, you can't be tried for it again.

00:16:31.160 Obviously, she's been tried for it once, but there's a legal doctrine that says, under certain circumstances, that first jeopardy, the jeopardy from the first trial that would prevent you from being tried again, gets erased.

00:16:43.360 For example, if you're convicted and you get a reversal of your conviction on appeal, they can try you a second time, even though you had a first trial.

00:16:49.720 It erases the first jeopardy.

00:16:52.120 Also, if there's a mistrial in a case, it erases the first jeopardy.

00:16:56.140 What Kevin Reddington is saying is, well, there was a mistrial, but it was improper.

00:17:00.200 We could have just replaced that juror and gone on to a verdict.

00:17:02.780 And because the mistrial wasn't proper, that first jeopardy should not be erased.

00:17:07.480 And therefore, you can't try her a second time.

00:17:09.340 What if they keep doing this case and there keeps being mistrials? 0.98

00:17:14.340 Do they just keep going?

00:17:15.340 In theory, you can just keep going.

00:17:16.700 Keep going forever.

00:17:18.280 Yeah, because I'd imagine unless they get an all-male or an all-female jury, wouldn't it keep going this way? 0.57

00:17:24.280 Probably.

00:17:24.960 Yeah.

00:17:25.400 Is that what you think?

00:17:26.120 And look how it's been politicized.

00:17:27.460 Really, all you need now is one female juror, and she's not going to vote guilty.

00:17:32.320 Right. So what do you predict is going to happen in the future with this case?

00:17:37.540 I think they'll do it again. If the state has an option, if they're allowed to retry her,

00:17:42.980 and I think they will. I think Kevin Rennington's arguments won't work. I think the judge will

00:17:46.240 allow it. An interesting facet of this is they just had a hearing the other day.

00:17:50.500 Right after the mistrial, the defense attorney, Kevin Rennington, was saying,

00:17:53.600 I'm ready to go next week. I want to do this trial again right now. And now he's like, oh no,

00:17:58.620 we have to delay. We have to delay. We have to delay. There's no way I could do this before

00:18:02.880 June of next year, which is ridiculous. I mean, it's eight months away. But there's a reason he

00:18:08.140 picked June. The judge who presided over this trial, normally if there's a retrial, you get

00:18:13.240 the same judge. It's just efficient. They know the case. You get consistent rulings on evidence.

00:18:17.860 He wants a different judge.

00:18:19.340 This judge is going to retire in June.

00:18:22.560 Oh.

00:18:22.920 He has mandatory retirement. 1.00

00:18:25.340 So he wouldn't be around for the second trial, so maybe you get a female judge. 0.87

00:18:29.220 But it's still a jury, though, right? 1.00

00:18:31.420 It would still be a jury trial.

00:18:32.620 So how would that really change if the jury still decides?

00:18:36.380 Maybe you just don't get that one holdout.

00:18:38.880 Oh, okay.

00:18:39.980 Like they bully him more? 1.00

00:18:41.900 Or you get another cock. 1.00

00:18:43.320 Yeah. 1.00

00:18:44.020 So what do you think? 1.00

00:18:45.160 um so if she gets not guilty she'll because one of the arguments i would hear from the women during 1.00

00:18:52.380 this debate is she'll still be in a mental hospital but it's confusing because some people 0.85

00:18:56.900 say she'll get out so i don't know which she'll be in a mental hospital says who so for example

00:19:03.300 you're found not guilty by reason of insanity you're you're subject to a six-month commitment

00:19:07.340 so she's definitely in for six months but at the end of six months the doctor looks at you and says

00:19:11.600 are you a danger to yourself or others no way she could get out in six months after

00:19:16.880 has that happened before is she a danger to herself or the only people she was ever a danger 0.95

00:19:21.820 to were her three kids she can't hurt them anymore they're dead so that box gets checked

00:19:27.760 then the only question is are you a danger to yourself and all she has to do is say no

00:19:31.040 so she would get out most like in six that's crazy now after six months of you know when

00:19:37.320 they examine you if they decide you are a danger to yourself or others you you're you're rebooked

00:19:42.200 for another year institutionalized and that happens every year so in theory she could be in forever

00:19:46.520 but every year she has an opportunity to get out all she has to do is say i'm not a danger to myself

00:19:52.140 or others and if they believe her that's that's it why is it so different today versus there's a

00:19:57.400 woman who killed her kids like 20 30 years ago um that was a national case i guess i don't know if

00:20:03.440 I can't think of it off the top of my head, but the public sentiment around that has changed so much.

00:20:08.920 Why do you think that is? 0.97

00:20:10.240 Well, I mean, again, society has changed because of the role of women in society. 1.00

00:20:13.460 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

Pearl - October 07, 2026

Modern Women REFUSE to Hold Other Women Accountable! Lindsay Clancy Trial @TheBrancaShow

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