Pearl - October 10, 2024


"Modern Women vs. The Red Pill: What They Won’t Admit | Pearl Daily


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In this episode of Histrionics, I sit down with conservative commentator Hannah Cox to discuss the dangers of the "red pill" and why it's invading America's court system. We discuss the role of the Red Pill in our society and how it can have a negative impact on men.

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00:00:00.000 The reason I created this show is because I found intersexual dynamics interesting and one of my
00:00:08.300 goals in this whole process was I wanted to better understand men and many women don't really care
00:00:17.120 what men think or how they move but for me it was something that I felt like would help me in the
00:00:23.800 long haul. There's a woman named Hannah Cox and she is a right-wing political conservative
00:00:31.460 commentator. And what you see with conservative commentators is you see them as they get into
00:00:37.960 their 30s and they don't get the attention they used to get. The red pill is just, let's start
00:00:44.120 with what is the red pill? The red pill is men coming together online and talking about their
00:00:50.600 collective experiences together. These are men from all over the world. It's not a movement.
00:00:55.580 There's no leader. It's just the study of human behavior. And unfortunately, when they say things
00:01:03.840 like we're hitting the wall a lot, this stuff can be difficult for women to hear when we really
00:01:11.220 don't like to be reminded that we're aging. We really don't like to be reminded that marriage
00:01:18.340 isn't a great deal for men. Most of us were not raised to be wives. This stuff is not things that
00:01:25.820 women can process easily. Even me, I have a hard time with it sometimes. And some of the stuff when
00:01:33.960 I first heard, it was difficult for me to process. But you see women, when they're in their 20s,
00:01:40.420 they don't really care. And you see, I saw that on my show. They might think it's silly. They
00:01:44.740 might laugh, but they don't really care. But when they get into their 30s, they go in full-on
00:01:49.940 attack mode. And what I think we can learn from this is women are constantly asking men to be
00:01:56.960 honest. And the way that women react to the red pill oftentimes is how they react to the men in
00:02:02.060 their life. Because this is information that they don't like or information that as a whole makes
00:02:08.740 women look bad although we do a great job of just making ourselves look bad with the level of you
00:02:16.180 know debauchery that we all just put on the internet right thirst traps dating stories etc
00:02:23.240 so we kind of do that on our own but so what you get in this is women getting triggered and they go
00:02:30.420 on like full-on take down the red pill and why I find this unfortunate is because a lot of this
00:02:38.480 information will save men's lives. And when you're essentially gaslighting men into saying
00:02:46.060 that their experiences aren't real, you know, you're essentially not letting men get the
00:02:52.040 information that they need. So, okay. She says the red pill is invading America's court system
00:02:57.760 featuring divorce attorney Corbin Payne. I mean, it's almost like talking to a cult survivor
00:03:04.100 because they're using english words it's just has a completely different meaning than what any of the
00:03:10.860 rest of us understand hey guys i'm hannah cox with base politics and you're watching my weekly show
00:03:15.540 histrionics for every week we tackle women's issues from a centrist point of view and guys
00:03:20.300 i have seen your comments i have seen them saying that i need to talk to more men that i need to
00:03:26.960 talk to people who work in the field and so i have listened i'm more than happy to and today
00:03:32.380 I have a very special guest. I am so pleased to introduce you guys to my friend Corbin Payne.
00:03:39.520 He has such a great... And I want to tell you the pattern that I tend to see.
00:03:44.360 Now, a lot of these things may seem like attacks, but from my perspective, they're simply observations.
00:03:51.900 Now, I try to give, I'm always just looking for patterns. And generally what you get is you get
00:03:58.860 a triggered woman who goes and gets, she ignores the thousands of men giving their experiences
00:04:05.920 and coming together and having these same experiences with women, marriage, divorce,
00:04:10.920 and they find a blue-pilled simp to back up their point of view, right? I think that's the best kind
00:04:18.460 of information a lot of the time. You can look at statistics, you can look at polls, you can look
00:04:23.260 studies and they i think are a tool in forming opinions but as we well know they can also be
00:04:29.260 manipulated they can be skewed and they don't always give a completely accurate picture of
00:04:33.980 what's going on on the ground and also they tend to remove a lot of the human aspect to this and
00:04:39.980 i think corbin you know you and i've talked like i can't stand a lot of the narratives coming out
00:04:45.340 of the red pill community but i also recognize so remember red pill all it is is men's experiences
00:04:52.060 so when she says i can't stand the opinions of the red pill she's saying i can't stand
00:04:59.500 men's opinions that's what she's saying because again this isn't one person this isn't a movement
00:05:05.980 it's not a group it's just forums online that's how it started eyes that a very simple principle
00:05:13.020 repeats which is that hurt people hurt people and a lot of the people who are and remember this is
00:05:18.380 is what women do who hurts you that's their that's just another way that they try to guilt you
00:05:24.820 into not having the opinion that you have or having the experience you've had getting sucked
00:05:30.100 into these narratives and these worldviews are hurting they're not doing very well and that you
00:05:35.200 know somebody who truly cares about individuals and and human liberty like it's something that
00:05:39.580 i think we have to concern ourselves with and you've talked a lot about how you're actually
00:05:43.620 seen many of these perspectives and worldviews like actually seeping into the legal system yes
00:05:50.340 i really have and that's been that's been the really wild thing that i've i've personally
00:05:56.020 witnessed i'm a i'm i'm in my mid third so i want to i want to point out something as a group we are
00:06:03.860 very spoiled as women we have no idea how safe men have made the world again as a media personality
00:06:13.620 This is the best job on the planet. This is not harder than a construction worker. This is not
00:06:20.500 harder than a trucker. And essentially, a lot of the men that this happens to, they're normal men
00:06:26.820 in normal jobs, like blue-collar jobs, that get divorce-graped or have a poor experience with a
00:06:33.440 woman. Many men, by the time they're 22, either they themselves or they have seen someone close
00:06:39.400 of them get falsely accused of great. They've seen a dad or an uncle get completely wrecked
00:06:44.820 in a divorce. You can't out gaslight this stuff, right? You can't just say this isn't happening.
00:06:52.840 And so, you know, her, she's in really an easy job. Really, as women, we have, not all, not all,
00:07:00.840 but we often have the less needed jobs in society. And I mean, that's just statistically true. And
00:07:11.080 we're going to have the audacity to go to men that have gone through something actually difficult
00:07:17.220 and say, who hurts you? I just can't get behind that. 30s. I'm single. I'm a man. So I'm kind of
00:07:23.840 the target audience for this in many ways. And then there've been, there've been points in time
00:07:28.480 where some of it has been a little bit like has spoken to me a little bit. I've never been
00:07:33.300 convinced. But Hannah, I've literally in the last two or three years. Wait, Hassan Piker said that
00:07:40.840 streaming is harder than brain surgery. Oh my gosh. I'm flabbergasted. I'm flabbergasted every
00:07:48.160 day. I'm so sorry. I know it's get to the point I just complained about. I'm sorry, but I need to
00:07:52.940 just say this every day I am flabbergasted by how ungrateful the people in my profession are
00:08:01.740 guys I am so happy to be here this is the best job I thank you daily I like seriously guys I
00:08:08.600 couldn't do this without you guys are amazing and oh my gosh to have the audacity the audacity to say
00:08:17.020 that this is harder than any job when we are the most blessed luckiest people on the planet get
00:08:22.860 out of here get out of here you're gonna say you have it harder than a trucker that has to go drive
00:08:28.620 10 hours or someone on an oil rig really gosh that's so annoying and it's it's there's a couple
00:08:34.620 of judges who are the least online people i've ever met and they are talking about i mean they're
00:08:42.220 using terms like red pill and incel because they're having to see some of the effects of this
00:08:47.980 So I think broadly, the way it's being addressed in some of the things I'm seeing written by other lawyers, by judges, it's just, you know, they talk about it in terms of like narcissism or entitlement from men.
00:09:03.680 But I, and frankly, I didn't know a whole lot about the red pill community until I started following you, started following, I think her name is Allie Clough, or maybe I don't know the name on Twitter.
00:09:15.560 and I went, oh, this is some of what I've been seeing. I'm just hearing this presented to a
00:09:21.560 judge. And this is, most of this has been. Okay. So he's getting his information from women.
00:09:26.880 So again, women dilute the red pill. They dilute it. And presented just in complete
00:09:33.480 sincerity. You're not, you're not having guys come in and, you know, nodding and winking.
00:09:39.520 they really believe this stuff. And I mean, it's almost like talking to a cult survivor
00:09:47.280 because they're using English words. It just has a completely different meaning
00:09:52.420 than what any of the rest of us understand. That's such a good description because I
00:09:57.160 definitely see that kind of cult-like mentality that is seeping in where the reason has left the
00:10:02.900 room, the logic's not there. Even when presented with evidence that counters their viewpoints on
00:10:08.100 many things they cannot let it go they refuse to you know absorb the information okay let's let's
00:10:13.800 take let's say you're a truck driver in middle america and you're 40 years old and you're
00:10:19.120 unmarried and so far in your life the men that you have grown up with the majority are now divorced
00:10:24.760 and you saw your father get divorced and you saw your friend get falsely accused
00:10:31.740 will this random woman on the internet saying stats to you change your opinion on this when
00:10:39.800 you in your real life have seen many men affected by divorce now younger men that don't have life
00:10:47.040 experience have a tendency to maybe overlook some of this stuff right but men that have been
00:10:53.700 the average divorce is around the age of I think it's 37 for women five years older I'd have to
00:11:00.440 relook. But generally speaking, it doesn't matter what stat she brings up if you have seen the men
00:11:07.860 in your life affected by this stuff firsthand. And again, this shows how women react when men
00:11:15.800 open up to us. There's no sympathy. Imagine telling a woman your divorce story just to have
00:11:22.860 her come back to you with, well, that's not true because of this stat. Again, the way women react
00:11:30.480 to this tends to be how they react to the men in their life. They have lost the capacity to
00:11:36.860 change their beliefs when provided with more evidence. And I think it catches my interest.
00:11:42.000 You know, you and I are both big into history. We know a lot about how these kinds of things tend to
00:11:46.980 go. And so it is, it's a huge red flag to me. It's a huge warning sign. That's one reason I started
00:11:51.000 the show it's very important to push back and push back early when you see these movements
00:11:56.360 starting to gain steam you know i was like you and i've said on the show before i have always
00:12:00.920 had very healthy happy relationships with men as a whole so i was kind of caught off guard by some
00:12:06.200 of this when i saw it really starting so oftentimes women we think we've had healthy happy relationships
00:12:14.440 right but what we're not aware of is many men suffer in silence because respect is love to men
00:12:23.700 and how many women consult their husbands or their boyfriends before making a decision that
00:12:30.700 affects both of them I would say it's abnormal and many men endure a ton in marriage and
00:12:39.160 relationships and they just don't say anything men don't really complain and they're much more
00:12:44.420 content than women and to get traction online and interestingly enough it was when i started dating
00:12:50.260 logan my now husband who you know of course but you know he had gone through a divorce a few years
00:12:54.260 before we met and his algorithm on instagram was feeding him like pearl and a lot of the red pill
00:13:00.780 this is what made me react to you today ma'am this is why i'm here you said my name now i'm here
00:13:08.460 because obviously they had pegged him they're like hey you're a single guy who got divorced like
00:13:12.680 your prime audience for this right and thankfully he's not but he was he initially started showing
00:13:17.640 it to me and that was how i first started hearing a lot of these narratives and you know i knew
00:13:21.920 enough about the data to say hold on like some of these things aren't adding up you know just
00:13:26.140 on their face when you start digging in i think a lot of it falls apart quickly so i want to get
00:13:30.780 into a lot of that with you i mean when i both come from a christian worldview i know that's
00:13:35.840 something very important to you like i hate divorce i think you hate divorce but at the end
00:13:39.940 of the day, I feel like I try to segment out my religious, personal, and even romantic views when
00:13:47.480 it comes to this topic, because when you're talking about marriage, it's in terms of the
00:13:52.780 court system, you're talking about a government contract. And I think for, you know, purposes of
00:13:58.900 keeping the law passion-free, you have to be able to really look at this through the lens of how an
00:14:05.340 attorney or a judge or the legal system is approachable and can you touch a little bit
00:14:09.760 more on that because i think we often forget ultimately that like yes you have your emotions
00:14:14.500 and your feelings around the subject but then there's also this like very dry mentality and
00:14:20.660 and approach that you have to think about it when it comes to the government and the court system
00:14:24.820 yeah and that's a good dispassionate or passionless is a great way to describe it
00:14:30.260 because when i have walked clients through a divorce and we're standing in front of the judge
00:14:34.940 the judge is asking some just really basic questions like who gets the house who gets
00:14:40.120 the bank accounts etc and just signs a document and it is the probably the biggest letdown ever
00:14:46.260 especially compared to how a marriage starts with a wedding but a in terms of the law
00:14:52.860 a marriage is is is basically like a partnership and i don't want to be like super unromantic or
00:15:00.060 too passionless here because there are religious definitions there are personal held personally
00:15:05.900 held beliefs there's there's romance there's there's all that and that's all true but when
00:15:10.960 it comes to the law the law looks at this as a contract as a partnership so they can't really
00:15:19.220 deal too much with the personal relationship side of things so you're very rarely going to get in
00:15:27.980 there and have a judge shake their finger at somebody for bad behavior, for instance,
00:15:33.600 to an extent.
00:15:35.920 But they're going to be looking at things like, how often do kids go with mom versus
00:15:41.860 kids go with dad?
00:15:43.740 Okay.
00:15:44.740 Now, on paper, you would think, and this is what a lot of people from a more traditionalist
00:15:52.440 worldview, this is how they see it.
00:15:54.740 Oh, because what he's going to say is that how it's set up is the person that spends the most
00:16:00.240 time with the children gets to stay with the kids. There's a couple issues that you have with
00:16:05.420 this. The first issue is that women can issue temporary restraining orders very easily.
00:16:11.680 So what happens is women issue these restraining orders and during COVID especially, it would take
00:16:20.060 sometimes a year to actually get into court because there was such a backup one there's
00:16:24.860 an increase in divorces and there was a backup in the court system so what would happen is they
00:16:30.920 would say well who spent the most time with the child and the woman would say me and it would be
00:16:36.680 pretty much set based on the custody arrangement will be based off of that but how is that fair
00:16:43.500 when she kidnapped the child to start. And this was, I heard the same, I would hear the same story
00:16:52.240 in states like California, in states like Texas, in Britain, it would be all over the US. They
00:16:59.640 would have this same story where the woman got a restraining order, kicked the guy out of the house
00:17:05.160 that he was paying for. And then by the time he gets the court to court, now he doesn't get
00:17:13.120 access to his children. So that's one. The second issue is why are men punished for being
00:17:18.960 traditional? So what if a man wants to be the provider in his home and he wants his wife to
00:17:25.520 stay home? Isn't that ideal for the children? And now you're in a situation where you're actually
00:17:31.620 financially punishing men for providing for their wives. And, you know, I covered a case of a pastor
00:17:39.360 who had seven children and his wife did the exact same thing he was the pastor at a church
00:17:45.260 she called him abusive and the thing is they switch the definition of abuse and they increase
00:17:52.120 it so they include things like financial abuse emotional abuse so if you tell your wife no you
00:17:56.940 can't buy that in some instances in court they use that against you now that's the issue with
00:18:04.740 what he's talking about is that because of this law which is the best interest of the child
00:18:12.020 and what that tends to default to we don't know it but because we're in a gynocentric society
00:18:18.700 everybody assumes that the best interest of the child is with the mother now there's actually no
00:18:25.900 data that supports that infanticide which is when a child dies within the first year of life
00:18:33.220 if a child is killed in the first year, police don't even profile for men because it is so likely
00:18:40.920 that it is going to be a woman. Women are the ones that tend to throw their children in dumpsters.
00:18:47.220 They're the one who abort their kids. One out of three has an abortion. But even past infants,
00:18:53.600 women are the more likely one to abuse children. Now, what conservatives, because again, they don't
00:18:59.780 like putting out information that makes women look bad. They hate doing this. So what they do
00:19:06.060 is they'll use deceptive stats. And what they'll include for the father is stepfathers in the
00:19:14.700 abuse stats. So when they show you a stat that says it's 50-50, they usually include the stepdad.
00:19:20.540 But if you take out the stepdad, it's unanimously women. And if it's not the father, the second most
00:19:27.980 likely is the man that the woman brought into the kid's life. So who's responsible for that, right?
00:19:33.520 Men that grow up with sisters or dated a lot, they can kind of see through this stuff. Oftentimes,
00:19:38.440 if a guy hasn't had those experiences, he has a tendency to be fooled much more.
00:19:46.520 And I have exclusively worked in heterosexual marriages, by the way. So that's the language
00:19:51.300 I'm using. And they're looking at things like, what's the total value of all the assets
00:19:56.620 that are accrued by the couple during the marriage and how do we how do we equitably
00:20:02.800 split that up there are other things that speak into this it could be a prenuptial agreement
00:20:07.540 it could be some of the assets came into the marriage exclusively through one special now
00:20:13.320 prenups do alleviate some of the risk however a lot of prenups are thrown out that is not
00:20:22.220 unheard of. And what I've heard from men is that at times it can protect you if you don't have
00:20:30.700 children. But once you have children, child support is always on the table. And 18 years
00:20:36.920 is a long, like, you know, because a lot of women get triggered by this stuff or they get upset,
00:20:42.940 that. But, you know, they're, imagine paying $500 every month for 18 years. Most couples are,
00:20:52.020 it's not uncommon for couples to break up in the first two years of the kid's life. So nine months
00:20:56.860 of pregnancy and a year. So at a year old. So that's 17. Imagine, imagine looking into your
00:21:03.560 future and knowing that every time you get a promotion or you get more money that you are
00:21:09.120 going to get dragged to court and she is going to take it because you wanted to be a traditional
00:21:15.460 husband and allow your wife to stay home you know one way that men can alleviate risk is to marry a
00:21:22.460 woman with similar earning potential and now who suffers now the children so this whole situation
00:21:30.600 is a lose-lose and what they'll do and it's like a catch-22 is they'll say well the law doesn't
00:21:35.860 specifically say men well okay do women date men that make less than them generally speaking no
00:21:43.460 who earns more in relationships men or women okay so since we know that who does this law
00:21:50.900 what this law written this way affect its men and the issue is social security is tied to this stuff
00:21:58.360 so states don't get social security programs if they don't have a child support if they're not
00:22:03.920 collecting child support in that state. So this is implemented at a federal level.
00:22:08.560 They can even take away men's gun licenses and fishing licenses. They can take the money
00:22:13.660 directly from their bank account. So yeah, they said that doesn't work dating a high-earning
00:22:19.640 woman. Well, that's the point. There's no way for a man to have a family and not have any risk.
00:22:26.360 That's the problem. You have to understand too, so if you change your child support,
00:22:30.960 let's say you lose your job in January. You are still on the hook for child support in January,
00:22:36.560 February, and until you can go to court and get it changed. Sometimes it takes a bit to get to court
00:22:41.900 and they can take the money straight from your bank account, from your social security. They can
00:22:46.240 take away. They can even throw you in jail. And sometimes, especially agreeable men, they get on
00:22:53.260 high amounts of child support. Then they get, they lose their job and they can't keep up with it.
00:22:58.000 a lot of men end up committing suicide in this process. They're nine times more likely to commit
00:23:03.740 suicide after a divorce. And again, that's why I say this stuff is serious. And women have a
00:23:11.460 tendency to, because it hurts their feelings, not want the truth to get out there. If you guys want
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