Pearl - Most “Trad” Women Aren’t Actually Traditional w⧸ @thisisshah

00:00:00.560 that's the thing when i started like researching this stuff was i was surprised at how much of the

00:00:05.760 same problems i saw you know because you always hear from trad cons to just find a special woman 1.00

00:00:11.360 that's like different and they might say you know i've had certain ones say it's different with this

00:00:16.320 race i think some say that it's different with this class yeah i've had some say it's different

00:00:21.520 with this religion and when i started interviewing victims of divorce rape i didn't really see a

00:00:27.440 difference i i saw like women doing terrible things across all of that i could say where i mean at

00:00:34.480 least for where i worked i mean the the people from whatever background seem to match the percentage

00:00:39.840 of the population where i live anyways um so i never i never looked at it and thought oh there's

00:00:47.600 uh you know this many people or i've never seen a someone from this religion or that religion i

00:00:53.040 i'd see people that you wouldn't expect to be getting divorced and they ended up across the

00:00:57.840 table from me so i working there for five years i wish i could tell you and tell myself oh my god

00:01:04.400 all you got to do is find this specific thing and you're guaranteed she's never going to leave you or

00:01:10.480 something like that but no i never found that demographic what do you think about all of the

00:01:17.120 like tradcon arguments about just finding a good woman uh well like a religious yeah i mean you know

00:01:25.360 they'll say stuff like well you know just find somebody that shares your values and to some extent

00:01:30.480 it's like okay i can kind of see what argument they're trying to make but then at the same time

00:01:36.320 it's like you'll see people even that there's a lot of what i call cosplayers maybe other people

00:01:42.000 do to or undercover feminists i've heard that term um and there's a lot of people who can portray that 1.00

00:01:48.000 well enough but i i don't even i think you know the people who are quote unquote that thing can still

00:01:54.160 have a likelihood of ending up getting divorced and i've i've spoken to people as much who've done that

00:01:59.680 i don't think it's some surefire way of anything i think you're really gambling it especially with them

00:02:03.520 too i think the tradcon proposal is particularly dangerous because they um have this heavy emphasis on you

00:02:11.040 know mom staying home mom not working mom not bringing any kind of financial contribution to

00:02:15.760 this and she submits and does all that yeah mom makes sourdough and you know does all this has the 1.00

00:02:22.480 wooden spoon and all that they're all about the cosplaying but i my personal opinion is i i think

00:02:28.000 we're just kind of in a new era beyond that and anything you see is people trying to portray that

00:02:32.960 but they're not actually that thing we're not organically creating these kind of traditional

00:02:37.120 right because you can't even be in a traditional i was actually on a show the other day explaining

00:02:41.840 that you can't be in a traditional relationship because women always have the leverage yeah i mean 1.00

00:02:47.520 you can be um you can be someone who makes a lot of money like you can be a guy with a lot of money

00:02:54.560 and you can ostensibly find some woman who wants to stay at home that's younger but it can still blow up

00:03:01.600 in the era of no fault divorce all she you don't even have to be divorced you can just walk into the

00:03:05.840 child support agency and say hey i'm we're not living in the same house um i want child support

00:03:12.320 and this is what i say the custody is and we will file against them i mean you know when it comes to

00:03:17.200 the top of my head tyrese gibson is someone you know what i think of as someone who makes a lot of money

00:03:22.800 and he found somebody and that didn't end up well i know stephen crowder is another example of a tradcon

00:03:29.440 and they all turned on that guy really fast um yeah i i think it's largely an imbalanced proposal

00:03:37.040 and what they'll do i just heard matt walsh say this and he'll say grandfathers grandfathers and for

00:03:43.040 centuries and centuries you know men provided and women did this and this is what men biologically

00:03:48.160 want to do but they give this very reductionist view of history and it misses a lot of important

00:03:55.040 things you know like one of the rabbit holes i've been going down on my channel is uh the dowry and

00:03:59.040 the history of the dowry and wherever you see monogamy uh you see the dowry and uh the dowry is

00:04:06.320 essentially a transfer of wealth that happens at marriage but it happens from the bride's side

00:04:11.520 um and it goes to that new couple so it's pretty much an endowment on the woman and it says you're 1.00

00:04:16.640 leaving this family your family has this much money for you and this is to help set up the new

00:04:21.440 household so in certain places like greece cyprus a typical dowry would be a fully furnished house 0.76

00:04:28.560 a paid off house you know that that was the expectation for a middle-class family

00:04:32.960 in greece yeah inside time here like when did the dowry start the dowry started around the time

00:04:39.680 agriculture changed from uh light tools like the hoe and digging stick to heavier tools like the plow 0.99

00:04:45.680 uh as far as the time period of what i'm speaking of specifically that's like right 1970s cyprus i'm

00:04:52.720 talking about right now now there's a good paper i had a discussion with paul elam and we went over

00:04:56.800 that paper and they're talking about uh so as recently as the 70s yeah wow yeah i figured it would

00:05:03.440 be like 100 years ago plus yeah i mean there's a lot of stuff uh from around then different places um

00:05:10.560 sort of abandoned it at different times i think england and us are probably earlier they're one of

00:05:16.080 the first places to get industrialized uh you see kind of romantic love take over as you know when

00:05:23.280 modernization comes in uh it tends to have a lot more job opportunity that's kind of different from

00:05:29.120 what people are usually doing so people can say screw you mom and dad i'm gonna live in an apartment

00:05:33.440 with my girlfriend and we love each other and you know it it just ended up that way and then they're

00:05:38.160 more interested in college and things like that but so in the u.s was that like the 20s then because

00:05:44.400 isn't that when it was like the 1880s to the 20s i think and i think i think in the u.s i don't

00:05:52.240 remember exactly but i think that would have been sometime in the 1800s yeah the u.s was kind of known

00:05:58.400 for abandoning these things a little bit earlier and the reason is is because you know even in a lot

00:06:03.760 of europe divorce didn't exist um it was annulments basically all throughout christendom basically

00:06:10.960 and then after you get your revolutions there it changes but the u.s was one of the first places

00:06:15.600 right after the american revolution to start saying okay we can do divorce now and then they created

00:06:20.960 their system of at-fault divorce um but you know it's in some places it was still happening

00:06:28.800 but england and there it started to to fall out of favor um especially as they got rid of i think

00:06:35.520 that's called uh coventry i kept no not country i can't remember the word for it um where the husband

00:06:41.440 isn't manages the finances and the woman can't take debt um so they start getting rid of that i think 1.00

00:06:47.440 late 1800s and it falls out of favor but the reason i think it's so important is because the dowry is the

00:06:55.840 missing piece in how monogamy actually works and it's what i call the check against hypergamy basically

00:07:02.240 so they get rid of the dowry system and they essentially instill what is the love match so

00:07:07.520 it's we love each other it doesn't matter what class you come from uh there's all these rags to 0.89

00:07:12.480 riches story this guy can leave his farm and go get a job over here and you know now he makes all this

00:07:18.000 money i can take care of a family of five screw you father-in-law and we can do whatever the hell we want 1.00

00:07:22.720 to do uh that's just a very short blip in history and you know as as it goes on now we're starting

00:07:30.000 to see this this situation again where houses are becoming harder to afford for the average person

00:07:35.520 typically both people do need to work if they're going to do this uh having a house and two kids

00:07:40.400 and a wife is like a million dollar venture at least over that you know period um so i i just hear

00:07:46.560 the tradcon stuff and what they will do is say men need to be protectors and providers and they will be

00:07:50.880 very hard on young men and they'll put all this pressure on young men they'll say men need to do

00:07:55.040 better you know women just need to just be good women and men need to come in here and do all this

00:07:59.840 stuff but then when i look at it historically i'm looking at all this stuff starting from you know

00:08:06.960 the turn of the you know two millennia ago coming all the way down young men have never had the kind

00:08:12.080 of pressure that they're putting on them and i would say unjustly because what would happen is

00:08:17.200 they would get married he would have some kind of income that her family would know what his

00:08:22.720 trajectory was going to be you say he's from this family it looks like he's a pretty sharp young guy

00:08:29.680 we want to marry our daughter within the same class we're going to give her this dowry for her wedding 0.89

00:08:35.760 when they get married they now have what's called a conjugal fund and this helps set up the new

00:08:40.000 household it helps set up uh the trade shop or whatever for whatever this guy is going to be doing and

00:08:45.040 then they would go in that way nowadays what we have is this really bad deal for monogamy you know

00:08:52.640 so you'll have these trad cons that'll say you need to be monogamous you need to be do that the groom 1.00

00:08:58.160 needs to make this much money and it's it she should never have to think about it they never mention

00:09:03.040 anything about her family uh contributing at all and it's just impossible to do and you know when you look

00:09:10.720 traditionally the way a family attracted a high status groom or a groom of equal class

00:09:17.040 was they typically endowed their daughters with the dowry so if you're a groom um and you're looking

00:09:24.320 at at your options on the table you're going to be okay with taking a monogamous match and focusing

00:09:31.040 your time and efforts here because she's coming with something that's helped setting up a strong

00:09:36.320 household you know could you imagine if i have a friend he's an electrical engineer okay he's got a

00:09:42.240 master's degree and um you know and i only imagine like okay if he would have let's say he started his

00:09:49.600 first job and he's making 100k a year 90 to 100 and his trajectory is to make a lot more whatever it is

00:09:55.520 um and then there's some other family in the community maybe they know each other maybe it's

00:09:59.840 some maybe it's maybe they like each other maybe they don't know each other that well

00:10:02.720 but if her family was like you know okay she's 19 20 whatever uh you can go to college we can spend

00:10:10.800 this money on your college tuition or you want or we can save this for your marriage we have 200 000

00:10:15.040 set aside for you uh she coming with 200 000 might be a good match for my buddy here because okay let's 1.00

00:10:22.320 put this into the down payment of the house right let's put both of our names on it you're gonna stay

00:10:26.720 at home and have the kids until they're old enough and then if you want to get a job do that

00:10:31.280 i'm gonna be working if this goes bust we split the house down the middle she has incentive to at 1.00

00:10:36.480 least stay for some time it might still suck a little bit down the line with all this custody

00:10:40.880 stuff but it would actually be a a match that made sense she's got skin in the game exactly right now 1.00

00:10:48.960 they really don't have skin in the game it's just oh well i'm a you know i'm a submissive wife and i

00:10:54.160 just want to stay home and do this right now you got to add in right now yeah right yeah exactly right

00:10:59.360 now yeah and then eight years goes by and then he's sitting across the table from me and he's just

00:11:04.720 like i don't understand she said she would you know yeah she said i do and all that stuff and and you

00:11:11.760 know it's funny because with women like that i feel like they're kind of more incentivized to make it 1.00

00:11:17.760 seem like the guy was abusive because they have to keep this i mean you saw that sauce with the

00:11:22.640 crowder situation apparently the footage was edited you know that's what i've seen um yeah i'm like

00:11:29.040 what did he do yelled yeah he was in the back smoking a cigar so he wouldn't be smoking around

00:11:33.440 his pregnant wife and she came out there barefoot she chose not to put shoes on 1.00

00:11:39.600 but anyways yeah so yeah i don't know so then it's just like okay he's a bad guy they get divorced he's 0.99

00:11:45.680 now it's alimony now it's child support time um and it's just a stupid way of doing things you know

00:11:52.400 so i i find it necessary to resurrect this i'm not so crazy to say oh we're gonna bring back dowries but

00:12:01.920 what i'm tired of is them saying if a man tries to negotiate for himself when it comes to especially 0.65

00:12:07.200 a monogamous marriage um that you're not masculine or something stupid like that you're not being a man 0.96

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Pearl - May 31, 2025

Most “Trad” Women Aren’t Actually Traditional w⧸ @thisisshah

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