Pearl - April 17, 2024


"My Ex-Wife Lied To My Daughter" Pearl Reacts To Brett Cooper's Take On Breakdancing Dad


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1 hour and 52 minutes

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174.41965

Word Count

19,535

Sentence Count

984

Misogynist Sentences

137

Hate Speech Sentences

61


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In this episode, we discuss the patterns of a deadbeat dad and how to deal with them in divorce. We also discuss how to handle a bitter ex-wife who alienates you and your kids from your family.

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00:00:00.000 So basically, I interviewed guys that were just completely screwed by the system, where
00:00:07.660 they had a bitter ex-wife that would alienate them from their children, and I would find
00:00:13.880 the same patterns of behavior.
00:00:15.700 I would just notice the same sort of patterns, and I kind of want to go, I can go up there,
00:00:23.540 right?
00:00:25.400 Okay, I'm going to go up there first today.
00:00:26.880 I want to go through some of the patterns that can you guys hear me can you put the chat over
00:00:34.760 there I want to go through first because I'm going to react to Brett's video Brett basically
00:00:41.740 Brett Cooper had a video talking about a deadbeat dad okay so she sorry I forgot to
00:00:49.720 take this out from last show please forgive my forgive me okay so Brett
00:00:57.480 Cooper had a video where she was covering the breakdancing dad I'm going
00:01:04.480 to show it to you guys in a minute but essentially there was a girl that went
00:01:08.860 on tick-tock and said that she had a deadbeat dad where her dad wouldn't pay
00:01:14.660 for stuff and essentially just wasn't around for her childhood so here is the
00:01:21.320 girl so I noticed this pattern where women especially men not as much but
00:01:29.720 women especially there's a mother and there's a father and I noticed this
00:01:36.440 through the divorce documentaries so they were first in love a lot of times
00:01:42.020 what happens is they're first in love and then boom oh no they break up now for whatever reason
00:01:49.040 men can go through breakups and not hate the woman they can kind of just get over it
00:01:57.700 so he's smiling he's like you know what this is Bob let's just say it didn't work out but let's
00:02:05.440 just be good. You know, let's just be happy. Now the woman on the other hand, how do we
00:02:13.460 handle breakups? Blessing? Okay, that wasn't the answer I was looking for. Okay, okay.
00:02:25.140 How do we, all right, not that one. How do we handle, you know, how do we speak about
00:02:31.500 our exes. Do we? Yeah, no. Do the men typically trash their exes the same way? Yeah, so this is
00:02:39.980 what I noticed. Now, I spoke to divorce attorneys, and the general consensus is nine out of ten times
00:02:47.180 the woman does this and not the man. So this is the first step the woman does. So first, and she
00:02:53.540 often does this before, before the marriage ends, okay? What she'll do is she'll trash
00:03:02.800 the father. Now, oftentimes, she will spread rumors at school, maybe, to their mutual friends.
00:03:16.080 And so just imagine, I'm, you know, the couple is together, and obviously the wife is kind
00:03:24.440 of bitter, and, you know, the husband's happy, and then they go hang out with some pals.
00:03:30.480 There's like this couple, a bunch of pals over here.
00:03:35.240 And so what the woman does is the woman starts talking bad, so maybe she drops the kid off
00:03:41.480 at school and tells all the moms at school that he is evil, abusive, and terrible.
00:03:48.260 Now, oftentimes, these stories lack complete context.
00:03:53.860 So oftentimes, what they'll do, and now, is this always intentional?
00:03:58.620 A lot of the times, yeah, but I don't think it always is.
00:04:02.080 Sometimes, I think women get so emotional, you know, they just get so mad, and they only,
00:04:07.620 you know, we're so narcissistic now, we only see our point of view, right?
00:04:11.480 So she might say, okay, like one time I interviewed her, I was speaking to a woman, and she told
00:04:19.740 me that her ex was a bum, right?
00:04:21.740 She said, my ex, and so I just asked, and this is what you guys got to learn to do,
00:04:27.020 ask questions.
00:04:28.020 So I said, did he have a job?
00:04:30.920 Yeah.
00:04:33.080 So how was he a bum?
00:04:34.200 Did he not, did he pay for like the bills?
00:04:37.040 Yeah, but only half.
00:04:38.880 okay so he wasn't a bum okay another girl you know she she said my ex pushed me down the stairs and I
00:04:49.700 thought okay yeah well you know and you always have to ask this question like why did he do that
00:04:54.840 you know it's not like you know I see blessing every day right hi blessing and you've never
00:04:59.820 pushed me down the stairs right blessing nah and so typically you know it's not like women are these
00:05:07.020 sweet little angels that just do nothing and don't you know contribute to the situation now
00:05:13.120 sometimes I don't think it's intentional sometimes I think women you know we just see our point of
00:05:17.620 view whatever but anyway so when she's chatting to her friends and we'll get to the daughter later
00:05:24.380 when she's chatting to her friends she'll only say one side of the story you know another thing
00:05:31.780 for example is another one I've heard is my father wasn't around so the daughter will say
00:05:36.500 my dad just he wasn't around at all he was he was gone he he was uh the worst and then do you know
00:05:43.540 what i would find out i'd say well what was he doing working what you don't want the father to
00:05:50.880 provide so he was doing what he was supposed to do and then oftentimes the mothers because they're
00:05:57.700 evil not all not all not all but you know they're evil so that what they'll do is they'll say well
00:06:04.780 that's not an excuse working to not be there anyways um another one I've heard is the women
00:06:17.640 will they'll say oh back to the pushing down the stairs so the women said oh I got pushed down the
00:06:24.340 stairs and so I said what happened you know and she said well he wanted me to leave and so I was
00:06:29.220 like wait so he told you to like where were you well his house and we were in front of his daughter
00:06:35.000 like I got that out of her somehow and I just thought so you were trespassing
00:06:40.760 I mean you know blessing if I want you to leave you know I and you refuse to leave I
00:06:49.720 reserve the right to push you okay yeah you know I'm just like I think blessing's a pretty cool
00:06:56.840 guy you wouldn't do me like that right nah you wouldn't if i said get out you'd go right
00:07:01.880 all right you know whatever so whatever so anyway so the mother will chat chat chat to all these
00:07:15.420 people so she might do this like two to three years in advance so then okay she goes maybe
00:07:23.060 she chats to the wrong person and then she goes to a and it could be a school counselor
00:07:30.500 a lawyer um sometimes it's even a doctor right and they say oh no you've been and by the way
00:07:43.020 what they also do is they change the definition of abuse so there's abuse
00:07:48.880 Now, abuse used to be if blessing came over and punched me, that would be abuse, right, blessing?
00:07:58.080 Yeah.
00:08:00.160 But now women have changed abuse to behaviors we don't like.
00:08:05.760 So now this has included emotional abuse, financial, blah, blah, blah.
00:08:16.200 Okay, so that in family court, they've switched it.
00:08:19.500 So it used to be one person's hitting the other,
00:08:23.400 you know, unreciprocated, whatever.
00:08:26.420 Now they've switched it to emotional abuse,
00:08:28.640 financial abuse, coercive control.
00:08:30.440 They've added all these words that just to confuse you,
00:08:32.720 they don't mean anything.
00:08:33.960 Anyway, so they go to, a lot of times,
00:08:35.940 they'll go to a women's shelter, a lawyer, whatever,
00:08:38.480 and they'll give them a story to tell everybody.
00:08:42.180 So, you know, blessings from Zimbabwe.
00:08:46.900 So they might say the men in Zimbabwe are, I don't know what the, coercively controlling or whatever.
00:08:55.160 Okay, it doesn't matter.
00:08:56.520 They'll come up with some story.
00:08:58.140 It might fit the culture.
00:08:59.220 So anyway, so now oftentimes the next thing is they bring, they're building a case against the guy.
00:09:08.720 So they'll put clips to social media.
00:09:10.980 Now, we saw this in the Crowder case, you know, and oftentimes it's like imagine.
00:09:16.340 Imagine if I hit Blessing ten times and then he hit me back once, all right?
00:09:22.160 Now, you would never do that, right, Blessing?
00:09:24.840 Nah, and, Pel, we just got a $50 superchild on the website.
00:09:29.100 Oh, thank you.
00:09:30.100 From Timoyd M. of Engel.
00:09:33.580 Timoyd, thank you so much.
00:09:35.540 now now oftentimes when you know women post clips to the internet for two two reasons one
00:09:44.120 they're emotional and mad and like you know whatever you know but sometimes it's to run a
00:09:51.760 story right so it's you know it's to build a case against the guy for this okay so if if i hit
00:10:03.440 blessing 10 times and then I cut that off and then the one time he punched me
00:10:08.120 in the face I put that on social media well everybody would call me a poor
00:10:14.360 abused soul right blessing oh yeah oh yeah don't do that okay I won't actually
00:10:24.320 but you guys get the point so we get we trash they trash the father with rumors
00:10:30.180 they go around, they go to the counselor, the lawyer, they claim abuse, clips to social
00:10:36.360 media, they might even go to his job, take the clips, bring it to his job, whatever.
00:10:43.820 And then five, oh, use kid as a pawn and ruin the reputation with the kid.
00:11:00.020 Now, what I found in my line of work is that typically the father just wants to get along
00:11:10.440 and raise the kid together, where the mother typically tends to want to ruin the relationship
00:11:17.380 so they would have a happy relationship, you know, happy relationship between these two.
00:11:24.300 And the mother says, no, no.
00:11:28.820 Now, the problem is mothers get custody 90% of the time.
00:11:34.580 They get child support.
00:11:36.060 They get alimony.
00:11:37.060 So they're paid.
00:11:38.720 And this is all based on how much the dad can see the kid.
00:11:41.960 So if you're a mom and you're not trying to work too much and you get an extra, I don't know, two grand a month to not let the dad see the kid, well, what are you going to do?
00:11:53.520 maybe you just like your kid you want to see it but other times it's just because you know she
00:11:58.480 hates the dad so a lot of times the mother's hatred for the father is greater than her love
00:12:05.900 for the child and i really i anybody that doesn't like their dad please i am begging you get his
00:12:16.420 side of the story. And we're going to show you why this show. Women lie. Now, knowing that the
00:12:25.020 mother has the kid 90% of the time, 80%, maybe every other weekend. What does that mean, guys?
00:12:36.020 She can be in her ear constantly. Constantly. How is the father supposed to compete
00:12:44.840 with you know the mom can tell 10 stories for two weeks straight and then the father maybe
00:12:53.000 gets every other weekend to clear his name how is he gonna do that i mean that's a tough one i see
00:13:01.320 what you guys do to me and by the way by the way you'll notice that women use the same reputation
00:13:07.780 destruction in the media there's many ways that women do this okay um yeah there's many ways uh
00:13:19.920 but basically that's it so typically what i have found oh and six they'll play the the poor single
00:13:29.560 mother card. Then they'll go get attention and fame and say, oh, my life is so hard because I'm
00:13:40.200 a single mother, even though it was my choice. And a lot of times, too, if the women get divorced,
00:13:44.940 you've got to ask them why they got divorced. You have to ask the dad because a lot of times
00:13:48.300 the woman doesn't tell the other side of the story. Okay, looking at the chat.
00:13:53.540 Edward Wilson. Okay, well, I'll throw it. We're going back to here. So now, how does that,
00:14:04.120 how does that lead me? Hello, over here. How does that lead me to today? Oh, my gosh, this court is,
00:14:18.280 No, sorry guys, what the, I told you I'm not a cord person.
00:14:33.280 Okay, we're back, I undid it, all right, so now remember Brett,
00:14:43.280 I'm hoping Brett watches this, I'm hoping this can help her.
00:14:48.280 So remember, Brett, divorce lawyers say this happens 90% of the time with the mother.
00:14:58.500 So the mothers typically do this.
00:15:01.400 So that means if something like this happens, there is a 90% chance that that's what's happening.
00:15:09.900 So notice her coverage on this.
00:15:13.000 It's a gynocentric leaning because, again, we have been told for a thousand years that women are the innocent ones.
00:15:20.840 Women are the nonviolent ones.
00:15:24.180 Women are the ones better with the children.
00:15:27.020 If a woman cries, she probably lies.
00:15:32.120 That's what it should be, anyways.
00:15:34.420 Okay.
00:15:36.480 Let's pull this up.
00:15:43.000 I can't hear it, okay, now again, again, I'm hoping, my whole hope with this is to bring
00:15:57.680 awareness to child and parental alienation so people can wake up. It is the saddest thing
00:16:04.580 when people hate their dads for no reason, okay? That is my whole aim with this.
00:16:13.480 Welcome back to the comment section. I'm Brett Cooper. So one of the core types of comedy, of humor, is irony.
00:16:19.620 And sometimes the internet delivers the best examples of this. And if you watch the show regularly, you know that we talk about-
00:16:24.500 Oh, and by the way, Brett, they're trying to use people like me and people like you.
00:16:28.640 The women, show the whiteboard again. Show the whiteboard one second.
00:16:33.160 They're trying to use us to do this, right?
00:16:37.520 So women, they know that if they're the damsel in distress, yada yada.
00:16:41.440 they know that like we'll pick it up and at one point i probably would have had the same take
00:16:45.960 until i figured out the truth okay go back yes there are so many things in the real world right
00:16:51.840 now that are so incredibly ironic i was literally saying this in an episode yesterday but i think
00:16:55.620 that reality is far more funny than anything that tv has produced in years like watching things
00:17:01.820 unfold online is just so much more entertaining at this point and while what we're about to talk
00:17:05.760 about is funny it can also explain a lot about young women and feminism today so before we get
00:17:10.080 into it make sure that you like this video subscribe to the channel if you've not already
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00:17:16.720 all right so a few months ago a video went viral on tiktok and on twitter of a girl sharing a story
00:17:20.800 time of the date that she had just had and she quickly became coined the factory reset girl
00:17:24.980 because in this video she claims that she's a feminist she's you know bisexual she's dated
00:17:28.680 girls she's dated like softer guys okay so that's red flag number one so just just so you know brett
00:17:34.160 when you um have a chick that's super liberal it usually means a weak father who wasn't holding
00:17:44.240 frame in the relationship and a strong influence from the mother okay is and that or a single
00:17:50.780 mother like either or she randomly went on a date with a chad a dude's dude a bro's bro the broest
00:17:57.360 of the bros and she said that the feminism left her body let's watch i went on a date this week
00:18:02.660 and I felt the feminism leaving my body.
00:18:05.940 I live on the east side of LA.
00:18:07.520 And if you don't know what that means,
00:18:08.500 it's sort of like the artsier part of LA.
00:18:10.900 You know, it's people say it's like Brooklyn and New York.
00:18:13.660 It is so hipster.
00:18:14.920 I cannot even tell you.
00:18:17.000 Like that is the most hipster part of LA.
00:18:19.780 It's the rich artists that hate that they have money.
00:18:23.840 So they live in this area so that they can be like cool
00:18:25.880 and kind of cosplay as poor.
00:18:27.200 Cause I'm hipster.
00:18:28.000 I live in like Southern park.
00:18:30.000 I live in this part.
00:18:30.900 Yeah, no, you are so rich.
00:18:32.220 you live in la you have a really nice loft apartment you just don't want to live in beverly
00:18:36.300 hills that's the kind of people there okay go on dates with a lot of men and women who you know
00:18:40.380 live over here there's always a negotiation about who pays and that's great i like to pay for people
00:18:44.860 all that but what i will say is that i sort of fell into going on a date with the most guys guy
00:18:54.140 i've ever been on a date with and he's from west west you know santa monica he's a bro right a
00:18:59.900 A guy's guy is usually not my type.
00:19:01.960 Like, I cannot remember the last time that I went on a date with, like, a straight bro's bro, you know what I'm saying?
00:19:07.580 But it befell me.
00:19:08.680 It befell me in an organic fashion.
00:19:11.140 Mm, organic fashion, almost like you're biologically inclined to like that.
00:19:17.200 But if you just let your guard down, that actually might be what women are interested in?
00:19:22.160 Great.
00:19:22.400 They're not interested in that, so that's wrong.
00:19:25.300 If women rewarded chivalry, men would do it more.
00:19:28.220 and and that's the thing women do not reward the nice guys let me just i'm on this date with this
00:19:35.880 guy and the thing about a guy's guy is he's putting his card down he's paying for everything
00:19:42.220 and i really just it sort of activated something feral in me i'm not gonna lie he went to like
00:19:48.760 another bar and he went he was gonna go to the bathroom so i was getting prepared to pay for
00:19:53.440 our drinks because he's been paying all night of course i'm gonna pay for the next round but as he's
00:19:57.560 going to leave for the bathroom he turns to me and he hands me his credit card and he okay we
00:20:02.600 don't care blah blah blah but the bar is literally oh god i'm interested it's wild somebody got
00:20:08.680 with it and said haha i love okay sorry i just i don't i don't care about the the date we're
00:20:14.260 gonna keep going all right feminism okay men want men to actually act like men crazy now this girl
00:20:21.480 is a comedian and based on the tiktoks that she has posted since december which is when that video
00:20:25.320 came out and went viral she's definitely not become some kind of hyper feminine trad con like
00:20:29.560 in the caption of that video she was like guys don't worry i checked his politics before going
00:20:33.600 out i'm not gonna become some conservative he's not conservative he's just like a guy's guy
00:20:37.220 oh before hooking up with him but we do see a lot of truth through humor which is why i love this
00:20:44.580 story and obviously this man and this date stood out to her and apparently according to videos
00:20:48.980 posted last week they are still going out she's continued to date him she's continued to talk
00:20:53.460 about him she talks about this guy's guy all the time and every one of the videos about him is like
00:20:56.540 is this masculine guy okay it's not wrong to like being taken being a guy's dad there we go recently
00:21:04.620 until not the bee posted this article yesterday and they said this girl's dad abandoned his wife
00:21:10.000 and four kids to pursue break dancing and doesn't she look familiar it's the same girl read that
00:21:15.840 headline again this girl's dad abandoned his wife and four kids to pursue break dancing and guys
00:21:21.360 the story is insane she posted it on tiktok she did a whole story time about it we just have to
00:21:25.840 watch what's a piece of trauma that you have that's funny it has to actually be funny i'll go
00:21:30.640 first my dad abandoned my family when i was five years old that is um a wife and four kids he
00:21:37.440 abandoned us and then pursued amateur break dancing and he got so let's just think about that
00:21:44.000 does that sound real
00:21:48.020 okay well really good he like blew up like he became like a d-list celebrity status like
00:21:58.140 viral break dancer he became like the oldest actively competing break dancer in the world
00:22:02.380 and he got a good morning america and talk shows and washington post wrote about him and he went
00:22:06.280 super viral and he did all these interviews and he danced with paul abdul and here i'll show you
00:22:10.760 Let's see, take a look at this 60-year-old breakdancer.
00:22:14.380 Yes, 60 years ago.
00:22:17.180 I mean, it's impressive.
00:22:18.300 Amazing.
00:22:21.120 That's Ben Hart.
00:22:22.100 He's competing at a breakdancing competition in Philadelphia,
00:22:24.760 and he may not have won, but I tell you what,
00:22:27.120 he is winning over a lot of people on the internet.
00:22:28.900 He really is.
00:22:30.040 Yep, he's winning over a lot of people on the internet.
00:22:33.080 This guy wouldn't pay my medical bill.
00:22:37.060 Now, we just gotta think critically here.
00:22:40.760 does he look like i mean if we google you'll see his face in a little bit but does he look like
00:22:46.600 a deadbeat
00:22:48.340 does that what he looks like
00:22:52.200 the worst part damn it yeah the biggest thing they say you can't read a book by its cover
00:23:01.260 you certainly can tell a lot by a cover let me that is the worst advice anyone's ever told me
00:23:07.380 in my life. So that's red flag number three. There was no split custody. Why? She didn't see him.
00:23:26.540 Why? Okay. Why? These are the questions we got to ask.
00:23:34.080 is to do that you may not have paid for some of my medical bills growing up oh my god i just
00:23:38.760 she's wearing one of us now this if it was a divorce with a d that means 90 of the time
00:23:48.640 the woman gets alimony and child support and they get a good percentage of the marital assets
00:23:55.380 so again
00:23:57.740 that two plus like if you don't know what to look for you would you wouldn't know
00:24:05.180 but my hope is that this helps other reporters report this better in the future
00:24:10.460 so my god i just noticed it did because again you know if you look at the i'd have to go back
00:24:16.700 but i don't want to lose my time the the thumbnail it said deadbeat dad so again
00:24:21.340 that's engaging in the same reputation destruction right it's break dancing merchandise so that's him
00:24:27.920 he's on his head benihana is his b-boy name because his name is ben hart you know i'll get
00:24:31.980 texts like this happy birthday you know and then this is the second question you know real deadbeat
00:24:39.960 dads they don't really want much to do with the kids when they're older either why why would they
00:24:44.920 so if he's texting happy birthday i mean this out this looks like that's so cute it looks like a
00:24:51.320 text my dad would send you know so this is just kind of what you got to look for and then like
00:24:58.560 links to his to his break dancing videos you have funny trauma like actual funny haha trauma
00:25:04.440 i need to hear it i mean that is wild that objectively is very funny now i know that
00:25:10.280 she did include some videos of his break dancing but this one just made me laugh so hard this was
00:25:14.760 in a random comment section this is him in 2019 yeah so again back to the does this look like a
00:25:20.620 deadbeat and the thing is like we got to offer corrections especially you know we're we're bound
00:25:26.120 to get this wrong but again that's like a a terrible thing to say you know it's the same
00:25:34.320 reason I keep asking Candace Owens to retract what she said about Crowder I don't think she ever will
00:25:38.700 but it's like you know in front of the White House
00:25:46.600 oh there he goes yep that is her father what a man i'm just imagining him like setting up the
00:25:57.000 camera and it's just making me cringe so hard you know i think as he's aged a little bit he's lost
00:26:02.660 he's lost some of the talent i think he peaked very quickly and then lost it because that
00:26:07.260 basically just looked like a cockroach running around now somebody said all the news stories
00:26:10.420 calling him the breakdancing dad when he was a total deadbeat peak peak i mean would you expect
00:26:14.640 anything less from our culture like seriously see this is the same thing
00:26:30.000 yeah girl says story we just believe right i mean it's no surprise because this is the
00:26:35.840 same culture where 70 of women who get abortions say that they did it because they felt pressured
00:26:40.160 oh no dear god brett you gotta stop believing these chicks that women get abortions because
00:26:48.080 they want to men have zero say in abortion and they also have can google what an abortion is
00:26:57.440 it's not hard to find if google doesn't put it up you you can go to other websites
00:27:02.640 no no no no no by their partner and that is where pre-born steps in okay to hear her
00:27:09.420 don't care what makes you think that they're gonna stay and not walk out on their kids and
00:27:17.020 when they are the most reborn.com slash Brett I mean if our society does not even value children
00:27:22.340 when they are the most innocent and then we got to ask this question okay who is society
00:27:29.040 Who controls the culture?
00:27:31.720 Women make 80% of consumer buying decisions.
00:27:35.480 Women are the ones with the kids the most.
00:27:38.520 If the culture is one way, it's because it's catering to women.
00:27:41.900 Even the increased sexuality, that's catering to women.
00:27:44.920 If you look at a men's action film, I mean, yeah, there might be like one hot chick in it, like Megan Fox, you know, Transformers.
00:27:53.080 But Transformers wasn't about Megan Fox, wasn't about the romance.
00:27:56.500 women watch 50 shades of gray you know most precious what makes you think that they're
00:28:07.180 gonna stay and not walk out on their kids for freaking breakdancing like none of this is a
00:28:11.660 shocker sadly if you look up ben hart it's like the washington post article is talking about his
00:28:16.080 family and you know being the breakdancing dad good morning america called him the breakdancing
00:28:19.780 dad like everything was about his role as a father when he was literally not being a father at all
00:28:25.660 another person said imagine leaving your family just to pursue your new hyper fixation for
00:28:29.200 break dancing somebody else said so and then my question is you know he issued the second video
00:28:34.540 i knew exactly what happened when i watched this it's been a month where i did she put out a
00:28:39.100 retraction i didn't i didn't see it if she did let me know in the chat i didn't video about meeting
00:28:44.040 a guy's guy and having feminism leave her body in this there should be a sitcom written about
00:28:48.300 this girl and her life like literally i don't know if you'll watch this video girl but you are
00:28:51.940 a comic you should write it and if you don't i will because it's absolutely fantastic now even
00:28:55.740 though this story is objectively funny and we can all laugh at this it also breaks my heart because
00:28:59.880 no wonder she was shocked by having a strong unflappable dude let's see it now so who would
00:29:05.020 who would brett be in this um and do my whiteboard again no i don't want smoke guys i'm trying to i'm
00:29:11.740 trying to show you guys the patterns it's not about smoke um you see the the people the little
00:29:18.060 people there um trash the father with rumors so you would be the person that she's telling go back
00:29:26.160 to me she would be the person she's telling the rumors to and i just want to show you guys how it
00:29:30.360 happens so now she heard the story from the daughter who heard the story from the mother
00:29:36.340 and then everyone just believes it without asking any questions we have to ask the follow-up
00:29:45.480 questions you're on a date and do the bare minimum of paying like she's never
00:29:50.720 yeah and again the bare minimum of paying you know women she's not
00:29:56.640 traditional why do traditional women deserve traditional treatment that's
00:30:02.460 just entitlement sure if you're traditional you were raised by two
00:30:06.840 parents that are still married you got married young you know how to cook you
00:30:10.680 know how to take care of a household. If you're traditional, sure. I wouldn't consider myself
00:30:17.620 traditional. I wouldn't consider most women traditional. I can maybe think of five, maybe.
00:30:26.040 So, you know, at that point, it's kind of just entitlement.
00:30:29.500 Add that. Her father doesn't even remember her birthday, apparently. Also,
00:30:32.920 through one of the comment sections onto posts. And this is another thing. So,
00:30:36.000 what they do a lot of times is men and women remember different things about the children
00:30:41.140 my dad loves me dearly okay i look at and i love my father dearly but he that man does not
00:30:52.520 he he doesn't always remember my birthday or like the year if you ask him like little stuff it's
00:30:58.660 just not, women remember little details a lot more than men. You know, so a lot of times what
00:31:10.780 women will do as, you know, proof that the dad isn't a good dad is they'll say things that they
00:31:16.760 are naturally better at. I can't remember the ones that guys are naturally better at. It's like women
00:31:21.940 are better at knowing like the doctors their kids go to the little details where men I mean okay I'll
00:31:28.960 give you an example with my dad if you ask my dad what the score was in my fifth grade basketball
00:31:33.440 tournament that he coached me in you know he might not know my birthday but he would remember that
00:31:39.180 you know he would tell me all about it's so funny he'll tell me about overtime but yeah he probably
00:31:47.100 doesn't remember his own birthday yeah you know this is the this is the thing men and women are
00:31:55.100 just different they remember different stuff this video and about the story I learned that her
00:31:59.260 father has now moved on from breakdancing he's a little too old to do the head spins and he's now
00:32:02.800 become a crypto guy a right-wing crypto guy like he was even interviewed by Dinesh D'Souza and he
00:32:07.660 featured this on his blog and I think this is so and then we gotta we gotta ask ourselves
00:32:11.540 are deadbeat dads usually this responsible
00:32:14.560 generally speaking like they they're you know a crypto guy important point because
00:32:24.840 i think a lot of people on the right assume that just because they're conservative or have
00:32:28.940 conservative values that they will automatically be good parents that just inherently makes
00:32:33.320 somebody better but just being on the right does not yeah and it's the same thing with the women
00:32:38.960 brett i i mean look at i'm i'm just being honest when i'm analyzing this stuff most
00:32:44.680 and out of the the trad con women uh you're you're the you're the best by far but 99 of them
00:32:53.780 they act it's the same thing it's like the feminist shame insult guilt need to be it's all
00:33:01.880 the you know because we women we just have a default programming our default programming is
00:33:07.600 basically feminism some some are worse some are better but it's you know that you have good values
00:33:15.380 like you're there's no there's no conservative woman in divorce court
00:33:19.360 politics does not inherently make you a better person this right here what we're talking about
00:33:24.880 is not about politics i do not care it is about prioritizing your family putting their well-being
00:33:29.800 above your hyper fixation of the month of break dancing like this father walked out he abandoned
00:33:36.040 See, again, you're saying that as fact.
00:33:40.580 It's not a fact.
00:33:41.740 And look at, think about this, Brett.
00:33:44.700 366,000 views.
00:33:47.220 And the problem we're going to get, the problem, the retraction will never get as many views as the original story.
00:33:55.180 And many men can never recover from this stuff.
00:33:59.540 Never.
00:34:00.060 and and a lot of times i just want you to be aware this is the point where a lot of men commit
00:34:08.180 suicide a ton because the woman has trashed their reputation a lot of times they they lose their
00:34:16.740 jobs a lot of times they're in a bunch of debt they get thrown in jail and we're gonna watch the
00:34:21.560 follow-up video because it's perfectly embodying what i'm talking about this is why i will never
00:34:29.160 never, never, never, never, never tell men that marriage is the answer because I have seen the
00:34:38.460 other side of it now. Yeah. So let me keep going. His four kids alone. Like she was four years old
00:34:45.680 when that happened. He left his daughter without a role model, both for her or for the type of
00:34:49.180 band that she would hopefully find and fall in love with. And sadly, I know you guys know this,
00:34:52.860 but this is not a rare occurrence. In 2022, there were 73 million children in America.
00:34:57.440 and of that number 18 million of them lived without fathers and this
00:35:02.140 why we got to think critically here right if women are given money to kick the dad out of
00:35:12.840 the home and to not let the children see the father what do you think happens i don't understand
00:35:19.060 why conservatives totally understand this concept when it comes to welfare if you pay people to be
00:35:25.380 lazy bums, they do it. If you pay women to be lazy bums and deadbeat moms, they'll do it too.
00:35:33.140 The deadbeat father, it's a myth. And I urge you, I urge anybody that's watching that has a poor
00:35:40.180 relationship with their dad to ask their dad for their side of the story and just let him talk.
00:35:46.380 Don't interrupt him. Give him an hour to just explain himself.
00:35:50.280 Not include the fathers that are just not present or not active in their lives or absent fathers,
00:35:53.980 but are still married. Like that does not include that. That is 25% of American children. Like no
00:35:59.320 wonder we have women growing up resenting men or being. Okay. But see, notice, and this is why I
00:36:05.600 say she is a gynocentric and it's hard. Everyone pretty much starts with this. It's been a thousand
00:36:10.160 years, but this is a gynocentric leaning because she's automatically deferring to the woman's
00:36:17.700 story okay to hate them or not trust them or just naturally being attracted to women instead of men
00:36:25.300 or softer less masculine men like none of this so still you know and brett we can't blame female
00:36:31.620 behavior on the men you know there's a there's a girl on my team actually she had two sisters and
00:36:38.600 they both grew up in the same household they both were in a single mother home allegedly the dad
00:36:43.260 walked out, but who knows. And one of them is a single mother, and one of them is engaged to be
00:36:49.580 married. And I actually think they'll make it. I rarely bet on people making it, but she's one of
00:36:55.460 the few, and she's actually a really kind, sweet person. The choices that you make are nobody else's
00:37:05.740 fault. They are your fault. You can't blame the father. You can't blame anything. It's a character
00:37:11.360 your flaw. You know, men are raised in single mother homes all the time. If they commit a crime,
00:37:18.040 it's still their fault. Should be surprising. Now, obviously, that is not the only cause of
00:37:24.320 feminism, like not by a long shot, but it is certainly a contributing factor. But the good
00:37:28.720 thing is, I have high hopes for this next generation because of you guys. Because I read
00:37:32.580 the comments on all these videos, I see your DMs, I see the things that you guys send me on TikTok,
00:37:36.300 I see the stories that you share about your children and your marriages and the choices
00:37:39.500 that you're making for their futures and it's incredible all children obviously need their
00:37:42.960 mothers but we cannot forget fathers and i'm so glad that we've woken up to this reality
00:37:47.000 yeah okay no you haven't um sorry i just guys i've seen too much i've i've seen too much so
00:37:55.820 now let's see the dad's side of the story let's see the dad's side of the story and i want you
00:38:01.220 guys to i'm going to point out some patterns here that i've seen um blessing can you would you mind
00:38:07.580 pulling up my phone over there so I can read the chat on it. Just in a second, but I'm going to
00:38:13.960 play it and then you can grab it. Judge Leslie Alden had just sentenced me to one year in jail
00:38:20.360 for contempt of court as part of my divorce. I knew the instant that I saw Judge Alden's haircut
00:38:25.960 that I was finito, gonzo. Here's what happened. I had allowed my ex-wife to take 97% of the
00:38:35.580 marital assets, which totaled $1.7 million for her. I left myself with $72,000, which
00:38:45.380 was quickly consumed by lawyers. Inexplicably, I had also agreed to give my ex-wife an additional
00:38:52.040 $100,000 in cash above and beyond the marital assets that we had. So my ex-wife was supposed
00:38:58.700 to get $1.8 million, but I was only able to come up with $1.7 million. I was $100,000.
00:39:05.580 $100,000 short. The reason I was $100,000 short was my ex had destroyed my business by issuing subpoenas and deposition requests to my clients. So it's so crazy. I sort of predicted this before I even saw it. It's the same, same pattern. She thought there was more hidden money and more hidden income out there for her to find. Now my clients did not want to be part of a nasty divorce litigation. So they ran for the tall grass and ghosted me. My clients were gone.
00:39:35.200 and my income was gone. So then my ex and her legal team filed what's called a show cause
00:39:41.660 petition with the court, asking for the court to put me in jail for contempt, of course,
00:39:47.180 for failing to come up with the final $100,000 due. Also, my lawyers quit the case the day before
00:39:54.160 the hearing because I owed them a lot of money. So I went into Judge Alden's courtroom without
00:40:00.100 a lawyer the next thing you know i'm buck naked and getting a full body cavity search by police
00:40:06.180 officers in the basement of the fairfax county virginia jail before getting into my prison
00:40:11.540 jumpsuit and changed to 11 other inmates okay let's go back to the beginning and find out how
00:40:18.260 i got into this situation and i touched on this story in a previous video but people in the
00:40:23.300 comments of that video are asking for a lot more detail so here goes and get ready for a really
00:40:29.460 insane story actually beyond insane okay a lot of you in the comments to my recent videos are asking
00:40:37.060 me questions along these lines how can you keep such a positive disposition in the face of so
00:40:42.500 much anger hatred and poison from your ex-wife to the point that she destroyed your business
00:40:48.980 had you put in jail with help from an insane feminist judge named leslie alden also poisoned
00:40:55.940 your daughters against you, and continues to try to destroy your livelihood even today,
00:41:02.100 19 years after your divorce, and even though your ex got remarried in 2012.
00:41:10.120 What might her current husband think of all this?
00:41:12.760 Might this behavior by my ex-wife, his current wife, cause a bit of nervousness on his part?
00:41:19.780 He seems like a very good guy.
00:41:22.100 My advice to him?
00:41:23.740 Keep your head on a swivel, and I've linked to these previous videos below.
00:41:28.360 My ex-wife Betsy even wrote two books trashing me and presenting herself as a picture of
00:41:33.480 virtue.
00:41:34.840 The title of one of her books is It Takes a Parent to Raise a Child, which is a play
00:41:39.900 off Hillary Clinton's book It Takes a Village to Raise a Child.
00:41:43.980 In Betsy's book It Takes a Parent to Raise a Child, she presents herself as this heroic
00:41:49.340 single mother who raised four children by herself after the husband, me, supposedly abandoned the
00:41:56.980 family. And the title of this book literally makes no sense. Her second book is a collection
00:42:02.320 of newspaper columns she wrote, largely repeating the same theme. She was also all over TV repeating
00:42:08.120 this theme when she was promoting her books. Betsy Hart didn't exactly write the book on love,
00:42:13.220 but she does all right guys so um i just logged into the audacity network chat i'm i'm watching
00:42:20.240 it now sorry guys hello d miller hello miss ziegler i apologize i i i don't remember my
00:42:27.920 login to it so i have to i need blessing to reset it um okay but so you see the the patterns right
00:42:36.420 destroying his reputation she wrote a book oftentimes you know the book is i am a victim
00:42:43.660 to elicit sympathy and and women we we have to we have to really have a strong mind to not let this
00:42:53.540 overtake us it is really easy in this culture you know everyone's you know many times if you say
00:42:59.880 you're the victim nobody second guesses you and so you could say something that's half true in all
00:43:06.180 of society will confirm it. You know, how is she's a single mom and she's getting 97% of the marital
00:43:16.200 assets? 97? I had a nationally syndicated column about it. Betsy went through a divorce and suddenly
00:43:25.840 became a single mother of four. She speaks from experience. Her practical and humorous insights
00:43:32.800 on family issues are often featured on shows like Fox and Friends and other
00:43:37.840 media outlets. Betsy's new book, From the Heart, is a collection of some of her
00:43:43.460 most popular columns. But guess what? So many women in particular and certainly
00:43:48.040 children get really short-shifted in the process. Boy they really really do. You
00:43:53.040 went through a divorce in 2004. What was that like for you? Well I was devastated.
00:43:57.580 i very much did not want it was not my choice but it was not my choice okay but again when women say
00:44:06.520 it wasn't my choice they never talk about the behavior that often let men don't typically
00:44:12.360 divorce for no reason men are kind of they get a girl that's you know good enough
00:44:18.260 they're kind of set they're good i mean to them it's like too much work to divorce
00:44:26.440 unless you're just being a miserable bit like blessing what would it take you to divorce
00:44:31.460 no divorce never oh no she's cheating on you no no she's out okay all right so a lot of times
00:44:42.660 they say it wasn't my choice but you know only there i was with four very young children just
00:44:49.240 10 down to three and i was sort of thinking oh my goodness what what do i do now fortunately i had a
00:44:55.880 wonderful support network and I had had a wonderful church life and and was already walking with God
00:45:01.940 and then he used that to come in and draw me I think so much closer to himself and over those
00:45:07.500 eight years learned and grew a lot and learned through adversity and to let my children see me
00:45:11.900 in adversity and not have to pretend oh this is all great when it's not and to let them see that
00:45:16.160 you know when you're in the midst of such deep pain yourself and then you feel so like you have
00:45:22.980 to fill the bill for all of your children at a time where this is very devastating for them too
00:45:28.100 how did you juggle all that i think it's okay to let our children see us when we're broken because
00:45:33.340 so often god works through the broke wrong wrong wrong wrong so women often what they'll do is
00:45:40.940 they'll so go back to the board i see your complaint d about the marker we'll we'll get it
00:45:47.840 next show but you see right there how on the board um the the the trash the fathers with
00:45:57.920 rumors and stuff women will use their feelings as an excuse to talk to the kids and let them
00:46:03.660 go back to me see them see them broken as an excuse to trash the dad the kids gotta know
00:46:09.620 what's going on the kids will just they'll like i heard that we had single mothers on our show tell
00:46:15.240 me that it's they the the kid would just know obviously it's like woody so we say
00:46:23.820 this is really hard but I'm walking with God anyway that can almost be more
00:46:28.020 powerful I think then look at me I have it all together because one is about God
00:46:31.980 and the other is about me and I want it to be about God and then so many of
00:46:35.640 those columns made it into my book from the heart and with a lot of more
00:46:39.660 backstory and sort of putting the whole story together about making wise choices
00:46:44.880 and relationships, about asking for what we as women really want.
00:46:48.880 I'm newly engaged and will be married this fall, and after eight years as a single mom,
00:46:54.780 I'm very grateful.
00:46:56.080 So that's all in from the heart.
00:46:58.280 Until now, I've been silent through all this, until my 25-year-old social media influencer
00:47:03.260 daughter posted a series of viral videos trashing me, repeating the same lies she had been told
00:47:09.300 by my ex-wife since our separation and divorce in 2004 and 2005 my dad abandoned my family when i
00:47:18.100 was five years old that is um a wife and four kids he abandoned us and then pursued amateur
00:47:25.020 break dancing to see take a look at this 60 year old break dancer yes 60 years old that's ben hart
00:47:34.080 He's competing at a breakdancing competition in Philadelphia.
00:47:37.140 This guy wouldn't pay my medical bills.
00:47:40.160 That is not true.
00:47:42.200 This video got 8 million views just on TikTok
00:47:45.380 and tens of millions of views across all social media platforms.
00:47:49.440 So, and I'll tell you how the women lie with that.
00:47:51.840 So the women might say to the dad, oh, the kid, you know, has this medical issue.
00:47:58.000 Can you pay for it?
00:47:59.040 And the dad may say, no, I'm giving you a billion dollars a month.
00:48:03.700 pay for it yourself and that you know that's kind of a funny way how women then maddie went up with
00:48:10.740 an even more negative second video i know my dad posted like a 10 minute video or whatever being
00:48:16.260 like you know my daughter's lying we have a great relationship i have a great relationship with all
00:48:20.360 my kids that's just objectively not true like guys we're all freaking out about this in my family
00:48:24.420 group chat right now we're being like he's so unhinged and delusional we don't know if he
00:48:28.080 actually believes his own narrative or if he's lying on purpose but he's just like a weird guy
00:48:32.880 Yeah, he said he lived down the street from us.
00:48:34.840 That's not true.
00:48:35.780 Or like if he did, it was only for a few months maybe.
00:48:37.840 But I don't want to get into this.
00:48:39.320 Like again, like my video was basically like sanitizing the situation and like poking fun
00:48:43.740 at the lightest parts of that childhood trauma.
00:48:46.000 But obviously in real life, it was a lot more like complicated and traumatic.
00:48:49.800 And it was really hard.
00:48:50.920 He left us, immediately married another woman.
00:48:52.640 We didn't hear from him for years.
00:48:54.200 And then he would visit every few months and we'd go out to dinner.
00:48:56.600 But like he truly had no hand in raising us at all.
00:49:00.460 some money growing up i like i honestly don't know the nitty-gritty of the financial situation i
00:49:04.460 really really don't bottom line is this guy was a completely absent father completely absent father
00:49:10.220 and this story blew up all over the internet in the media her dad apparently became like a
00:49:14.620 d-list celebrity became the oldest actively competing break dancer in the world went on
00:49:19.340 good morning america went super viral etc etc but she added that he wouldn't pay her medical bills
00:49:24.700 then comes ben stage name benihana with a 10-minute reaction video and some pretty good
00:49:29.500 natured corrections he claimed he lived close by after the divorce did pay medical bills child
00:49:34.140 support put money into a college fund to the tune of around five million dollars all in all to cover
00:49:38.780 the cost of the kids and said he saw his kids often when they were growing up but he did admit
00:49:42.860 that from his daughter's perspective as a five-year-old it might seem like abandonment
00:49:46.460 but that in his opinion it was not a totally accurate account whilst we watched his father
00:49:50.060 daughter union play out in real time obviously elon musk weighs in to tell ben you're awesome
00:49:54.860 i don't even know but this has got me thinking ben is getting absolutely dragged online with
00:49:58.860 with people calling him a deadbeat dad and, like, loads of other grim stuff.
00:50:01.940 Are these internet call-outs fair?
00:50:03.380 Like, should we be airing our dirty laundry on TikTok?
00:50:05.420 Because I've seen these happen time and time again,
00:50:07.700 and it always turns out that there's another side to the story.
00:50:10.640 Now, I don't really blame Maddie for any of this,
00:50:13.280 though she is 25 years old and should know better.
00:50:16.400 And she's just repeating the lies she's been told by her mom for 19 years.
00:50:20.720 Now, remember the theme of Betsy's books, newspaper columns, and TV appearances?
00:50:25.200 She presents herself as a single mom who raised four kids by herself,
00:50:28.860 with no help from the dad who abandoned the family no help from dad whatsoever right what
00:50:35.500 betsy always fails to mention is i paid her about four million dollars over the years in alimony
00:50:39.980 child support health insurance and men view their money as their time
00:50:47.340 and a lot of women will come back and say oh but but that's not an excuse for you to not be there
00:50:53.180 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Somebody, somebody has to pay for stuff, you know.
00:51:02.740 My dad worked a lot when I was a kid. He worked a lot. And I'll never hold it against him. His
00:51:08.160 whole goal in life was to pay for our college. Thank you, dad. I have no college debt. Thank
00:51:15.140 you for Ganae. You know, and this is the, this is the crazy thing. It's like as women, we're told
00:51:21.540 we're always the victim we're always always always always the victim life insurance contributed more
00:51:27.140 than six hundred thousand dollars to the kids college fund she also fails to mention that i
00:51:31.540 lived a bit more than a mile down the street from the kids in lagrange illinois easy walking distance
00:51:37.380 sidewalks all the way i saw the kids all the time so no i did not abandon the kids at all
00:51:45.460 Betsy and I got a divorce. About half of marriage is in America and in divorce. It's common.
00:51:51.860 And no, Betsy did not raise the kids with no help from the dad,
00:51:55.620 as she's been claiming in her books, TV appearances, and newspaper columns.
00:51:59.940 She also took every legal action possible to prevent me from seeing my kids,
00:52:04.180 including filing a motion to prevent visitation. During our divorce proceedings,
00:52:09.060 Betsy destroyed my business with her subpoenas and deposition requests to my clients.
00:52:13.700 So my clients ran for the tall grass. I then fell short on payments. Betsy and her lawyers then
00:52:19.300 filed a show-cause petition with the court, asking that I be put in jail for contempt of court.
00:52:25.780 So that's what happened when I had the misfortune of entering the courtroom of this feminist judge,
00:52:31.300 a woman by the name of Judge Leslie Alden. I knew the instant I saw Judge Leslie Alden's haircut
00:52:38.100 that I was in big trouble. And then when I saw how she looked at me,
00:52:41.780 and by the tone of her questions, I knew I was dead in the water.
00:52:46.180 Finito. Gonzo. Histoire.
00:52:50.180 Another theme of the comments in my previous videos is people want to know more about my second wife,
00:52:55.300 Wanda. Wanda and I have been happily married now for 18 years, since December 6th of 2006.
00:53:02.100 No issues whatsoever. We have a fantastic marriage.
00:53:05.780 So a big part of this video will be contrasting my two wives.
00:53:09.380 my ex-wife, Betsy, with my current wife, Wanda.
00:53:13.560 I'll also be talking about how the family law legal system
00:53:16.540 is totally rigged and stacked against dads
00:53:19.700 to the point of absurdity,
00:53:21.460 to the point that it's pretty much financial suicide
00:53:24.280 for males to get married today.
00:53:26.420 My hope with this video and my other videos
00:53:28.320 is to help dads out there who are divorced
00:53:31.060 or who are getting divorced
00:53:32.500 to avoid the many mistakes that I made in my divorce
00:53:35.800 because I made every possible mistake in my divorce
00:53:38.900 it's possible to make the good news is my son appears to be unaffected by all this drama
00:53:44.260 our relationship that's the that's the the pattern you tend to see men can kind of see through
00:53:49.860 bullshit a lot better than women so the men when there's a divorce they kind of want to stay out
00:53:56.580 of it you know blessing how many times have you heard a chick talking nonsense and you just didn't
00:54:02.660 say anything uh low like what when's the earliest you thought this girl is full of shit and you
00:54:09.360 didn't say how old were you earliest at eight so yeah guys from a young age can just pick up
00:54:18.040 bullshit a lot quicker than us we're kind of dummies you know even you know even in this
00:54:24.880 video like none of us even asked any any questions to verify any of this like a lot of everyone just
00:54:30.660 jumped the chick's defense appears to be fine i see my son peter all the time i met wanda at a
00:54:37.620 karaoke bar and what attracted me most to wanda is her incredible story far worse than i went through
00:54:44.420 in judge leslie alden's courtroom and eight nights in the fairfax county jail wanda's background is
00:54:50.900 a story of true grit wanda is the opposite of privileged now i wish wanda could sit here next
00:54:57.460 to me while i tell you her background but she doesn't like to go on camera much less speak
00:55:02.420 publicly on the internet to people she doesn't know she's sitting in the other room right now
00:55:07.140 watching tv maybe i can get her to pop in here later and it's taken me many years to pull this
00:55:12.420 story out of wanda she doesn't like to talk about it because she says many people went through what
00:55:17.460 she did in laos she doesn't see her story as anything special wanda grew up in laos which
00:55:22.660 is right next to Vietnam, across the Mekong River from Thailand. Her Laotian name is Vandalone.
00:55:28.900 Wanda is an Americanized version of her Laotian name. After the Communists conquered Laos in 1975,
00:55:35.460 Wanda's mom and oldest sister, Kamsi, put together a plan for the family to escape to Thailand when
00:55:41.220 Wanda was 13 years old. Wanda's story in Escape from the Communists is similar to movies like
00:55:46.180 the killing fields and first they killed my father wanda's deceased mom champa was born in china
00:55:54.100 when japan conquered china and was committing genocide basically killing everyone the parents
00:56:00.180 of wanda's future mom put her on a boat when she was about 15 years old with a suitcase full of
00:56:06.180 cash gold and other valuables this was probably in 1943. wanda's future mom champa ended up in laos
00:56:14.020 She never saw her parents again. Wanda's future mom arrived in Laos as a 15-year-old girl not
00:56:20.660 knowing any Laotian, but she built a life there. She met a guy named An, Wanda's future dad,
00:56:28.020 who is very good looking by the way. Wanda has two younger brothers, two older brothers,
00:56:33.220 and four older sisters. Mom was very industrious. She knew the value of gold,
00:56:39.300 so she started a cash for gold business mom also made food products mostly baked goods and sold
00:56:45.620 them at the local market she put the kids to work in this business including wanda mom also bought
00:56:51.780 a bus and started a bus service wanda's father and wanda's oldest brother sakta would drive the bus
00:56:59.220 and the bus had a route people would get on the bus at various stops and go to the market in poxay
00:57:05.300 So this was a third profitable business for the family.
00:57:08.580 Wanda's father also worked as a delivery truck driver for the government,
00:57:12.260 when the French were running Laos, before the communists took over.
00:57:16.120 The driving entrepreneurial force in the family was Wanda's mom.
00:57:19.960 She made enough money with her baked goods, cash for gold business, and shuttle bus business,
00:57:25.160 that Wanda's family was able to buy two houses, paid for the houses with cash.
00:57:29.980 There was no such thing as a mortgage in Laos, at least not that they knew about.
00:57:33.720 The house they lived in overlooked the great Mekong River.
00:57:37.780 The other house was for their extended family.
00:57:40.260 So they got to be very well off financially by Laotian standards of that day.
00:57:44.620 Then the communists conquered Laos.
00:57:46.160 Okay, guys, I'm going to skip like 10 minutes of this.
00:57:49.320 It is a really great story.
00:57:51.820 I do recommend you watch the whole thing, but it doesn't really matter as much to the...
00:57:59.620 She has a really incredible story.
00:58:01.580 It's really great, but I'm going to, okay, we're going to go back here.
00:58:05.920 Watching their cargo.
00:58:07.920 Wanda doesn't remember how many there were.
00:58:10.040 She just says it was a big crowd of refugees and gangsters who had guns.
00:58:14.340 Wanda, her mom, the smugglers, and the other refugees
00:58:16.680 walked for four days and three nights through the Laotian jungle.
00:58:20.440 Wanda said they had almost no water or food.
00:58:22.960 She says she thought she was going to die out there.
00:58:25.660 Plus, if they ever got caught by the communists, they would all be shot.
00:58:29.460 No question about that.
00:58:30.700 Wanda says I was so hungry and thirsty
00:58:33.380 I had ticks all over my body
00:58:35.360 including one in my eye
00:58:37.100 fortunately I had a wonderful support network
00:58:39.360 and I had had a wonderful
00:58:40.980 church life and was already
00:58:43.380 walking with God and then he used that
00:58:45.260 to come in and draw me I think
00:58:46.760 so much closer to himself
00:58:48.620 when we say this is really hard but I'm walking
00:58:51.120 with God anyway
00:58:52.060 and you have to watch
00:58:57.120 how people tell stories
00:58:58.480 Is it everything happened to me?
00:59:00.720 Always the victim?
00:59:02.480 Or is it, you know, like this other chick?
00:59:04.540 Four days of walking, they finally reached the canoes,
00:59:06.980 which were hidden along the banks of the Mekong River.
00:59:09.880 They all went across the Mekong River in the canoes
00:59:12.400 in the cover of darkness.
00:59:13.940 I gotta, I'm so sorry.
00:59:16.280 I gotta skip this, guys.
00:59:17.260 You gotta watch the whole thing.
00:59:18.920 It's just not too relevant to this part.
00:59:21.460 I just wanna get the clips of the mom talking.
00:59:24.520 She was wearing sandals and a Laotian dress.
00:59:27.420 Her possessions amounted to one pair of sandals and two dresses.
00:59:30.860 Fortunately, I had a wonderful support network, and I had had a wonderful church life and was already walking with God.
00:59:37.740 And then he used that to come in and draw me, I think, so much closer to himself.
00:59:42.280 So when we say this is really hard, but I'm walking with God anyway.
00:59:46.080 Wanda says arriving in America was like landing on another planet.
00:59:50.200 It just looked so different than anything I had seen before, she says.
00:59:53.980 The family was placed in...
00:59:54.740 This woman is hot. Blessing. Blessing. Would you?
01:00:02.660 Would you?
01:00:05.460 No comment.
01:00:07.620 Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, anyways, so we're going to skip over. It's a long video. That's why I kind
01:00:13.920 of have to skip over this part. Um, okay. Then she talks about Wanda's sons.
01:00:18.700 She has no fear. Wanda also has two sons from a previous marriage.
01:00:23.540 One is David, who served one tour in Iraq and two tours in Afghanistan.
01:00:28.100 He has amazing stories.
01:00:30.000 Her second son is John.
01:00:31.620 He's also a great guy and a very hard worker.
01:00:34.460 He works as a plumber.
01:00:35.800 We're very proud of them both.
01:00:37.800 Okay, now let's switch to my legal battles with my ex Betsy.
01:00:41.580 And many of you were asking these questions in the comments to my previous videos.
01:00:45.620 Many of you were asking, why would I give my ex 97% of the family assets at the end of the marriage in 2004?
01:00:52.720 totaling about $1.8 million, and then leave myself with just $72,000, which was quickly
01:00:59.940 consumed by lawyers. And why would I agree to pay my ex $18,000 per month in alimony and support,
01:01:06.820 which was later reduced to $12,000 per month after extensive litigation? And why would I
01:01:12.640 agree to pay child support until each kid turns 22 years old? And these are all very good questions.
01:01:20.620 Okay, so let me give you a little bit more background on my divorce from my ex.
01:01:23.980 Would you guys smash the ex-wife? One in the chat if you would.
01:01:30.540 More detail than I've previously provided. My wife and I got separated in 2004. We got divorced
01:01:36.460 in 2005. We've been married since 1987. We have four children, the oldest being my son,
01:01:42.940 and then three daughters. We lived in Virginia, just outside of Washington DC, in Fairfax County.
01:01:49.340 I'm not going to go into all the issues that led to our divorce, but one of the big points of
01:01:53.180 friction was different attitudes we had about money. She was a spendaholic, frankly. Now,
01:01:59.180 I grew up in Vermont and was basically a country boy with pretty simple tastes. A big house and
01:02:05.100 big lifestyle were never important to me. I often say you can only live in one room at a time.
01:02:10.380 Why do we need all these rooms? What's even the point of living in a house that's bigger than you
01:02:14.940 need. Warren Buffet has the same belief. He's worth $140 billion. He's the greatest investor
01:02:21.680 of all time. He still lives in his middle class house in Omaha, Nebraska, that he bought
01:02:27.280 in 1958 for $31,000. I have a similar attitude toward money as Warren Buffet. Why spend more
01:02:34.780 money than you need to spend to have a perfectly comfortable life? I built a successful-
01:02:39.500 There are more ones in the chat that I'm proud of, guys.
01:02:44.940 I'm not, I'm disappointed in some of you.
01:02:53.320 Sorry, I'm going to continue.
01:02:54.420 I agree with him, though, on the money thing.
01:02:56.200 ...advertising agency.
01:02:57.480 I was making quite a bit of money.
01:02:59.280 When we had Peter, our youngest son, in 1994, we decided that Betsy would be a stay-at-home mom.
01:03:06.040 Betsy actually had an extensive work history.
01:03:08.560 She was working in the Reagan White House when I met her.
01:03:11.200 And I had written speeches for Reagan's 1984 presidential campaign.
01:03:14.600 Also for George H.W. Bush's 1988 presidential campaign
01:03:18.900 And I wrote speeches for many prominent politicians of that era
01:03:22.500 In fact, my first business was a speech writing business
01:03:25.460 Someone said, men have needs?
01:03:34.440 Guys!
01:03:36.840 This chick got him thrown in jail, you'd still go
01:03:39.900 Oh my gosh
01:03:43.000 All right. You know what? I'm disappointed, but not surprised. Not surprised at all by you guys.
01:03:51.360 Not even a little bit. This then morphed into an advertising agency because I found that I could
01:03:56.380 make more money writing advertisement. D Miller gets it. D Miller gets it.
01:04:03.300 That's the right answer, D. The problem with writing speeches is that once the speech is
01:04:09.340 written, the money stops flowing. The only way you can make more money as a speech writer is to write
01:04:14.460 another speech. So you're basically selling your time for money. With advertising, you charge a
01:04:19.480 creative fee, a fee for writing and creating the ad, plus you earn a royalty or you earn a percentage
01:04:25.400 of the advertising buy. So you create the ad once and so long as that ad is being used, so long as
01:04:31.540 that ad is running, you receive a steady stream of income. And I can talk about how I set up my
01:04:36.840 businesses in other videos. So my advertising business is quite successful, but I'm not really
01:04:41.960 motivated by money. I just do what I like to do, which is write and create. The money then just
01:04:47.280 seems to flow in automatically, almost without me thinking about it. And this actually goes to my
01:04:52.680 whole approach on how to succeed in life. And that's to focus on your daily process, your daily
01:04:57.520 routine, not so much on the goal. I believe in process over goals. If you have a good process
01:05:04.480 and a good routine, good things tend to happen. So I've written seven books. The way I set out to
01:05:10.740 write a book is not to think about how difficult it will be to write 300 pages or 400 pages of
01:05:15.820 manuscript. Instead, I set out to write three pages a day. And then after 100 days of doing that,
01:05:22.320 I have a 300-page manuscript. I have a book. The way you run a marathon is one step at a time.
01:05:29.040 Don't think about the 26.2 miles that you have to run to complete the marathon.
01:05:33.280 on. Just put one foot in front of the other. Just start and then put one foot in front of the other
01:05:40.780 and keep doing that until the finish line comes in view. If you want to lose 20 pounds don't think
01:05:46.000 about that goal. Instead commit to walking three miles a day and just do that every day come hell
01:05:52.760 or high water. This becomes part of your daily routine like brushing your teeth. It becomes part
01:05:58.620 of your life. Something that you just do every day. Wanda has a relative in Laos who did this.
01:06:05.260 She walked three miles every day. She lived to be 102. That's pretty much how I approach every area
01:06:11.360 of life. And that's pretty much how I built my ad agency. So when Peter was born in 1994, Betsy
01:06:16.720 wanted to be a stay-at-home mom. And I was happy with that, even though it meant losing one income.
01:06:21.740 And she still did do some professional work. She wrote a weekly column for Scripps Howard News
01:06:25.600 service, which I think brought in about a thousand dollars a month. Now I was
01:06:29.260 perfectly happy in our townhouse, but because my ad agency was doing so well,
01:06:33.220 Betsy wanted to build a big house in a wealthy suburb of Washington DC, a
01:06:37.780 suburb called Great Falls, Virginia. We bought two acres of land, very close to
01:06:43.120 the Tyson's Corner shopping mall, and we built a pretty enormous house. Six
01:06:47.480 bedrooms, 6,000 square feet, not counting the basement which was also huge. Zillow
01:06:52.760 currently values that house at $2.5 million. And Betsy was spearheading the house building project.
01:06:59.160 I wasn't paying that much attention to what she was doing on it. But once I saw the scale and scope
01:07:03.800 of it, I was pretty annoyed and pretty stressed out by it. And I'm told our builder had a nervous
01:07:09.200 breakdown through his dealings with Betsy. After he would complete some element of the house,
01:07:14.000 she would change her mind, saying something like, well, I like it. I like it. But do you think you
01:07:19.600 can move that wall maybe three feet to the left. And she said to me, you know, I know you approved
01:07:25.060 this plan and that you don't want a gigantic mansion, but do you think we could at least
01:07:29.700 make the foundation three feet bigger all the way around? Three feet bigger doesn't sound like much.
01:07:35.380 So I said, okay, really without thinking about it much. And by three feet out, she meant three feet
01:07:40.620 out on every side of the house. And that turned a damn big house into an enormous mansion.
01:07:45.200 And I really didn't want to be a slave to an enormous mansion.
01:07:48.880 It's not just the monthly payments on the mortgage.
01:07:51.400 It's the watering system for two acres of land, the grounds crew required to keep up the property,
01:07:57.480 the property taxes, the insurance costs, the cost of maintenance, and so on.
01:08:01.960 And the photo here really doesn't capture how enormous this house is,
01:08:05.580 because much of the structure is in the back.
01:08:08.060 And here's what our old street looks like.
01:08:11.040 Wow.
01:08:13.520 Wow.
01:08:15.200 I don't think single motherhood would be so bad in that house, huh? Blessing.
01:08:25.740 This house was on two acres of land, just down the street from the famous malls of Tyson's Corner,
01:08:31.220 where you will find the Ritz-Carlton and all the high-end stores.
01:08:34.920 So this was primo real estate just outside of Washington, D.C.
01:08:39.500 On Daryl Lane in Great Falls, Virginia.
01:08:41.860 You can look up this street if you want.
01:08:43.480 I wondered what my clients might think. They might conclude they are overpaying me.
01:08:49.000 If you hire a lawyer, you really don't want the lawyer whose offices look like the Taj Mahal.
01:08:53.800 You want a lawyer who looks like he's more interested in saving money, not spending money needlessly.
01:08:58.220 You want a lawyer more like Better Call Saul. Well, maybe not Saul, but you get my point.
01:09:03.840 And I think the same rule applies to an ad agency.
01:09:06.640 Most clients, most businesses think they're being ripped off by their ad agency anyway.
01:09:10.360 The last thing you want to do is reinforce that impression.
01:09:14.060 But it wasn't just the house.
01:09:16.020 We also had nice cars, a Jaguar, a big Lexus, an Audi A6.
01:09:20.500 And of course, we had to join a fancy country club.
01:09:23.520 The initial entry fee for this country club was $50,000.
01:09:29.000 $50,000?
01:09:33.140 I get annoyed at the Soho house membership.
01:09:35.640 it. I think it's way too expensive. 50, oh my gosh. Plus $800 per month. And that's before
01:09:48.020 you spend any money at the club for dinners, at the nice restaurant and whatnot. Back then
01:09:52.740 this club was called Lowes Island. It had two championship golf courses, approved for
01:09:57.240 U.S. Open play, tennis courts, a swimming pool, and a really nice clubhouse with a fancy
01:10:02.440 restaurant for fine dining. And this club was bought by Donald Trump. Of course. Trump loves
01:10:09.520 making rich people stuff. Now called the Trump National Golf Club. And I'm sure the initiation
01:10:13.880 fee for this club today is 200,000 or something like that. I tried to look up the initiation fee,
01:10:19.300 couldn't find it. The website just says, contact the club. Betsy was very much into appearances
01:10:24.820 and impressing our social circle. Yeah, exactly. Someone put this in the chat. He couldn't say no
01:10:30.200 to her i see a lot of guys get in this predicament where they're just working a lot and they just
01:10:35.160 don't really want to deal with their wife so they just say sure sure sure and then they look back
01:10:39.500 and they're like what the hell what the and this is the thing like these are the trad con women at
01:10:45.960 church often that's why these trad con women i grew up around these chicks they'll play victim
01:10:51.500 and talk about how amazing and awesome they are for years for years d miller says the modern world
01:10:57.720 that sadly fed the selfish centered instincts of men and women the same time enabling the abuse of
01:11:03.120 men by women guys if you want me to read your your comments um sign up to the website because
01:11:07.840 i'm reading their stuff first martin says what a great live stream pearl thank you martin oh and
01:11:13.320 i didn't like being a slave to the monthly cost of this lifestyle i was perfectly happy in our
01:11:17.760 townhouse yeah i knew we'd have to upgrade to a single family home as more kids are born but i
01:11:23.300 I was not anticipating anything like the house we ended up with in Great Falls, Virginia.
01:11:28.160 One of the breaking points for me was when Betsy said, you know, we really cannot live
01:11:32.700 on anything less than $30,000 per month.
01:11:36.280 And of course, that would be after taxes.
01:11:38.880 And I'm like, are you kidding?
01:11:41.240 And remember this was in the night-
01:11:42.240 30K a month?
01:11:44.240 Frickin' A. My lord.
01:11:49.480 the 90s, so tack on 50% for inflation. So that would be like $45,000 a month today,
01:11:56.460 just to cover our fixed monthly costs. So when we say this is really hard,
01:12:00.420 but I'm walking with God anyway. And it is true that my ad agency was throwing off quite a bit
01:12:04.880 of money, but I didn't know if that could be sustained. I would much rather bank that money
01:12:09.500 than spend it on a big lifestyle with lots of overhead. And almost all my income came from a
01:12:14.300 few big clients. I was not sure if this income was stable. Plus, I think I kind of had imposter
01:12:20.100 syndrome. I really wasn't sure if I had just been lucky to build this business. What if my big
01:12:25.500 clients went away? Would I be able to replace that income? What if the economy tanked? In the
01:12:31.260 advertising business, the first expense that businesses cut is advertising. Guys, how much?
01:12:37.960 You know, because women always say abuse, right? How much a month would you have to be paid to
01:12:42.880 take a little bit of abuse. Just like, you know, a hit here. Not saying he did that.
01:12:47.140 But, you know, I, you know, because the same thing happened with Crowder's ex-wife. She's
01:12:53.020 getting like 30K a month or something. I mean, how much? I mean, just like a little bit.
01:13:00.580 Yelling. How much of you, would you take some yelling for 30K a month?
01:13:05.200 In marketing costs, the advertising business is very cyclical. Also, income tended to arrive
01:13:10.980 sporadically, often big chunks, then nothing for a while. Plus, I had staff and offices I had to
01:13:17.440 pay for. This just wasn't a lifestyle I wanted to be a slave to. I did not like the financial
01:13:22.920 pressure. I didn't want to be a hamster on a wheel. I would be perfectly happy in a rural setting
01:13:28.420 with a house on a hill overlooking a pond or a river. The kind of house that I grew up in in
01:13:33.320 Vermont. That's my style. And that kind of life can be cheap. The last thing I wanted to do was
01:13:40.020 support a giant infrastructure supporting a big infrastructure with big monthly costs is not my
01:13:45.260 idea of living that's slavery to me the best status symbol there is and this is the thing guys
01:13:51.160 modern day marriage is slavery i know this sounds crazy but this guy was put on child support
01:14:01.720 until the kids were 22 that's over a decade where he has to pay a chick because he screwed her
01:14:09.900 for a couple years?
01:14:12.340 Had a couple...
01:14:13.000 Now he's...
01:14:15.800 Huh?
01:14:18.140 Huh?
01:14:19.480 Is a house with no mortgage.
01:14:21.500 I'd much rather have a middle-class house
01:14:23.200 with no mortgage
01:14:24.040 than an enormous house
01:14:25.380 with a big mortgage.
01:14:26.800 This difference in attitude toward money...
01:14:28.580 Someone said Pearl can beat me
01:14:29.900 for $30,000 in money.
01:14:32.700 Guys, stop!
01:14:34.080 Stop it!
01:14:36.520 D. Miller says,
01:14:37.620 I mostly live off the grid
01:14:39.260 with my wife and five children on 26,000 a year's wife is insane. Martin says, Mr. Hart has an
01:14:47.620 incredible spirit despite what happened to him. What life should look like created a lot of
01:14:53.080 friction in my marriage to Betsy, who now wasn't really bringing any money to speak of because she
01:14:58.480 wanted to be a stay-at-home mom. Well, she did have her weekly column for Scripps Howard News
01:15:02.600 Service, but that only brought in about $1,000 a month. So basically nothing. And I was kind of
01:15:08.800 wondering, where is all this money going? Why are a credit card balances so high? Also, why do you
01:15:15.320 need a boob job? Why do you need a nose job? I like your nose the way it is.
01:15:20.880 Blessing, what are the seven deadly sins? One of them is greed, right?
01:15:25.960 Yeah, see, this is what always infects women. I don't know what it is about us.
01:15:31.740 Not all, not all, not all, not all women. Some women.
01:15:35.280 dang it
01:15:39.100 why do you need liposuction
01:15:41.780 you're not fat at all
01:15:43.780 and why do you need a facelift
01:15:45.820 she was looking for that next husband
01:15:47.680 your face looks fine
01:15:49.500 so we just had very different ideas about what life should look like
01:15:52.860 despite all these tensions
01:15:54.540 we had more kids
01:15:55.620 which kept the marriage together
01:15:57.260 even though the marriage was not great for a whole host of reasons
01:16:00.320 we were in fights all the time about money
01:16:02.500 and maybe one reason we had four kids
01:16:04.880 was to keep the marriage going. I think we both knew the marriage was hanging by a thread.
01:16:09.460 But we both believed in the institution of marriage until death do us part. We didn't
01:16:14.360 believe in divorce. And I have a bit of a different view now. Till death do us part
01:16:19.020 worked fine when life expectancy was 28 years old. But realistically, how well does that work
01:16:25.340 when life expectancy is 85? Hey, if you're lucky and marry the right person, great. But that's a
01:16:31.880 of a moonshot half of marriages end in divorce among those marriages that last about half those
01:16:38.520 marriages are in big trouble and mainly survive because of inertia i'm not sure what the answer is
01:16:44.520 but that seems to be the state of affairs in america today and the number one friction point
01:16:49.160 in marriage is disagreements about money i think marriage counselors and that's why you always see
01:16:54.200 these trad con guys saying oh well men make more money because they're married well yeah because
01:17:01.240 I mean, women, a lot of women have a spending problem.
01:17:07.000 They got to make more money to pay for this broad.
01:17:10.700 Agree on that point.
01:17:12.200 If you and your spouse are not in agreement about money.
01:17:14.640 Can I put it at 1.5x speed?
01:17:17.220 Yeah, I'm going to do that because we need to, I'm trying to, I should have time stamped it earlier.
01:17:22.020 I thought he got to the, I'm trying to get to the jail story.
01:17:25.800 And what life should look like, it's going to be very tough to keep your marriage together.
01:17:28.700 And what's great about Wanda is she's a penny pincher.
01:17:30.280 almost to an extreme. She's a coupon collector and saver. If she thinks she's being overbilled
01:17:34.800 by Comcast or some service, she'll stay on the phone for hours to save $10. She wears them down
01:17:39.180 and she does this as a matter of principle. Even though it's really not worth all that time to
01:17:42.440 save $10, I would just let it go, but not Wanda. That's just how Wanda is. Without getting into
01:17:47.480 any more detail as to the straw that broke the camel's back in terms of the marriage with Betsy,
01:17:51.060 I'll just say at this point, we agreed to separate in 2004 and divorce in 2005. And I decided to
01:17:55.580 pretty much let betsy have all her assets or 97 total college paid by ben 600 000
01:18:04.300 total subtotal child support set almost a million total assets she got 1.8 million dollars
01:18:13.500 total from ben four million dollars
01:18:25.580 would you take a little bit of abuse for four million dollars okay so where am i signing up
01:18:33.500 like would you take like a beat down once a month for how long for like 18 years damn
01:18:41.880 for four million though what about like five years that's like boxing in it
01:18:48.680 not saying you did not say you did i'm just you know i'm just asking the question
01:18:56.820 at 1.8 million dollars for betsy i kept 72 000 so 1.8 million dollars for betsy 72 000 for me
01:19:04.000 many ask why would i agree to that arrangement usually marital assets are split 50 50 well my
01:19:09.240 answer to that was i wanted to make sure that the kids could continue living at their current level
01:19:12.820 and wouldn't need to downgrade their lifestyle because of the divorce in addition i initially
01:19:17.160 agreed to pay Betsy about $18,000 per month in support. That was during the separation. This
01:19:21.840 was later reduced to $12,000 per month after extensive litigation. And also child support
01:19:25.780 would last until age 22 for each child. In some ways, I thought this might be a money saver for
01:19:30.240 me because Betsy was such a spendaholic. Yes, the kids would be able to live at their current level
01:19:34.380 for the most part, but Betsy would have limits on what she could spend on boob jobs, facelifts,
01:19:38.280 clothes, lavish vacations, expensive landscaping, trips to the spa, fancy cars, and whatnot. She
01:19:43.720 would probably have to host fewer fancy parties. Fortunately I had a wonderful support network
01:19:47.440 and I had had a wonderful church life and and was already walking with God and then he used that to
01:19:52.200 come in and draw me I think so much closer to himself. So we say this is really hard but I'm
01:19:56.560 walking with God anyway. Betsy also proposed something else that I agreed to foolishly as it
01:20:00.560 turns out. She asked if it would be okay if she moved the kids to Illinois. Illinois is where
01:20:04.980 Betsy is from and it's where... I've covered cases where the mom will actually leave the country.
01:20:12.280 Again, you know, when fathers have kids, it's not their kids.
01:20:16.040 It's the mother's kids.
01:20:17.720 Emily is.
01:20:18.700 I can work from anywhere.
01:20:19.840 I'm a writer and a creative type.
01:20:21.460 So I thought, sure, I'll just follow Betsy and the kids to Illinois, and I'll set up shop there.
01:20:26.100 What I did not anticipate is that Betsy would subpoena all my clients.
01:20:29.360 She thought I was probably hiding income and more money somewhere.
01:20:31.780 My clients were not interested in being part of any lawsuits or any divorce proceeding.
01:20:35.780 So they pretty much hightailed it for the tall grass, and this pretty much destroyed my business.
01:20:40.220 Meanwhile, Betsy sold the house and moved the kids to Illinois almost instantly.
01:20:43.980 I did not think that would happen that quickly.
01:20:45.940 I thought that was more of an option or something that would take a while.
01:20:48.620 But she moved almost instantly.
01:20:50.360 And because Betsy had torpedoed my business with all of her subpoenas and deposition requests to my clients,
01:20:55.420 I was not in a financial position to be able to move from Virginia to Illinois quickly.
01:20:59.180 I figured it would take me about six months to be able to move to Illinois.
01:21:01.980 Until then, I would travel from Virginia to Illinois every four or six weeks or so to see the kids.
01:21:06.560 Until I could move there full-time.
01:21:08.580 Now, remember that approximately $1.8 million that Betsy was supposed to get
01:21:11.780 at the end of the marriage and at the start of the divorce?
01:21:14.520 Well, I was $100,000 short in terms of the final lump sum payment due
01:21:18.640 that I owed in accordance with the divorce decree.
01:21:21.440 So Betsy sued me for the $100,000 that I was short.
01:21:24.480 I had been keeping up with the $12,000 in monthly support,
01:21:27.420 but I wasn't able to come up with the $100,000 lump sum payment that I owed.
01:21:30.800 And for those of you who have not seen the earlier video,
01:21:33.080 I need to repeat a lot of what happened with this jail part.
01:21:35.640 For those of you who have...
01:21:36.280 Okay, this is what I was waiting for.
01:21:38.020 I'm sorry guys
01:21:39.500 When volleyball's over
01:21:43.080 The show is going to be A1
01:21:45.620 I won't be running from practice
01:21:47.620 It'll be like
01:21:49.060 You won't even understand the level
01:21:51.200 The level we're going to get to
01:21:53.460 Some of you who are watching this
01:21:55.160 Have seen the other videos
01:21:56.360 So you can speed through this part if you've already heard it
01:21:59.200 But I will be adding some more detail here
01:22:01.800 Because people in the comments
01:22:03.580 Seem very interested in the jail story
01:22:06.260 So even if you think you've heard this before, you might want to keep listening.
01:22:10.060 I'm adding quite a bit more detail on different aspects of this.
01:22:13.180 But I also think the lessons learned from this can help a lot of people
01:22:16.280 by showing dads what definitely not to do.
01:22:19.780 Okay, so it's $100,000 short of the $1.8 million that I owed Betsy
01:22:24.200 at the conclusion of the marriage, and in accordance with the divorce decree.
01:22:28.640 But I was keeping up pretty well with the $12,000 per month in support,
01:22:32.160 though sometimes a bit late with payments.
01:22:33.680 And because Betsy kept subpoenaing my clients and requesting to depose my clients, I had to invent an entirely new business, an online business.
01:22:42.940 You can super chat at theaudacitynetwork.com.
01:22:46.080 Even more helpful would be to sign up for a yearly membership, guys.
01:22:50.480 We've been demonetized and been kicked off of Instagram three times, TikTok seven times at least at lost count.
01:22:58.040 It's been really tough.
01:22:59.380 So if you guys can find it in your hearts, even just the one month would be great.
01:23:03.680 ten dollars a month i pay more attention to that chat and i i i read it you know we have tom twain
01:23:10.500 mrs ziegler d miller at some point we're gonna we're gonna add some courses in there it's
01:23:16.020 it's gonna be going good instead of oh cool we got a new paid subscriber
01:23:20.540 we need to get like a button oh a yearly thank you james
01:23:25.700 agency i launched an online education program on how to write effective advertisements and how to
01:23:32.440 use direct marketing methods to build your business.
01:23:36.060 This would ultimately be a pretty big success, but this new business was still in its startup
01:23:40.540 phase when I entered Judge Leslie Alden's courtroom on July 26, 2006.
01:23:47.800 My new internet business was starting to get some traction, was turning a small profit,
01:23:53.300 students were signing up and paying $38 per month for the program, but it still needed
01:23:57.860 about six months to build up to a point where it was throwing off significant income. So I entered
01:24:03.280 Judge Leslie Alden's courtroom with no lawyer. In fact, my lawyers quit the case the day before
01:24:08.880 the hearing because I owed them a lot of money. I was pouring every dollar I could find into my
01:24:14.460 new internet business. So this was kind of a triage situation going on. Triage is where you
01:24:19.800 have to choose which wounded soldiers on the battlefield to try to save based on their
01:24:24.620 likelihood of survival. That was my situation. I had to choose what to pay and what not to pay.
01:24:31.480 I had to pay Betsy monthly support, but could not pay her the final $100,000 lump sum owed.
01:24:37.620 And I could not pay my lawyers. I figured they could wait. I needed to pour every dollar I could
01:24:43.320 find into my internet business, knowing that each dollar invested would be returned in 45 days and
01:24:49.840 would double in about 90 days. And this was early in the internet era, it being 2006.
01:24:55.920 And internet marketing was not something I had really focused on until this point.
01:24:59.840 When I decided to launch this, I didn't even know how to build a website.
01:25:02.960 I was an offline marketer, mainly using physical direct mail, postal mail.
01:25:08.640 So I had to quickly learn how to build a website, how to create an email marketing
01:25:12.160 system and database, how to use Google Ads to drive traffic to my sales letter page,
01:25:16.880 AND HAD TO BUILD A MEMBERSHIP WEBSITE THAT COULD BUILD PEOPLE MONTHLY.
01:25:20.560 ALSO HAD TO SET UP A SHOPPING CARD, A PAYMENT PROCESSOR, AND BE ABLE TO ACCEPT ALL MAJOR
01:25:24.960 MARK K SAYS, MAN, YOU HAVE BEEN EYE-OPENING AS A 65-YEAR-OLD.
01:25:28.560 THANK YOU FOR WATCHING, MARK K, AND WELCOME TO THE MEMBERSHIP PROGRAM.
01:25:31.600 WE'RE A DOUBLE DIGITS ON THE LIVE STREAM ONLINE.
01:25:34.000 WHOO!
01:25:34.800 CREDIT CARDS.
01:25:35.840 I ALSO HAD TO GET APPROVED BY ALL THE CREDIT CARD COMPANIES TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT CREDIT CARD
01:25:39.680 payments which was not easy because yeah and that's someone in the chat put this man went
01:25:44.080 through all of this just to be called a deadbeat do you know how hard it is to make two million
01:25:49.400 dollars i know how easy it is to lose money
01:25:56.180 sorry that's not funny
01:26:00.580 horrible by this point had fallen to in the 500s so i had to put up bonds with the credit card
01:26:08.400 companies. It was quite a process. Oh, we got a new subscriber. Oh my gosh. Hey, Kurt. Welcome.
01:26:16.320 I'm a standstill. Wanda was also involved in helping. She was my tech support. She actually
01:26:21.400 knew a lot more about tech than I did. Plus, she didn't mind spending hours on the phone with
01:26:26.120 customer support to have them walk her through how to do all of this. So I entered Judge Alden's
01:26:31.740 courtroom. With one look at Judge Leslie Alden's haircut, I knew I was dead. Finito. Gonzo.
01:26:38.300 He's the wah. I especially knew I was finito when she started asking me questions. I was spending
01:26:44.140 about $5,000 a month on Google Ads to generate students and maxing out my credit cards. And
01:26:50.080 remember, the metric was that it was taking about 45 days to turn a profit on the Google AdWords
01:26:54.760 spend. People would sign up for a cost of $1 for the first month's trial membership. This would
01:27:00.960 then become $38 per month if they stuck with the program, and students could cancel at
01:27:06.200 any time. Later, this business became a pretty huge success, generating about $100,000 per
01:27:11.920 month in gross sales, or about $50,000 per month in profit. But it was only generating
01:27:17.420 about $10,000 per month by that point, with about $5,000 per month going to Google Ads.
01:27:23.740 To say that Judge Alden was unimpressed with my startup internet business is an understatement,
01:27:29.500 an extreme. And Betsy was in the courtroom with her lawyers. Wanda was also in the courtroom,
01:27:35.020 seated toward the back where she would not be noticed much. Instead of maxing out my credit
01:27:39.340 cards and spending every cent I could find on Google Ads, Judge Alden thought I should be
01:27:44.060 sending that money to Betsy. The problem with that is, I would have no business and no income
01:27:49.180 if I did that. I would therefore not be able to pay Betsy the $100,000 lump sum that I owed her,
01:27:55.340 or the $12,000 per month in support.
01:27:58.620 With no business and no steady source of income, Betsy would get zero.
01:28:03.180 And I explained all this to Judge Alden.
01:28:05.580 I said realistically it would probably take me six months before I could pay Betsy this $100,000,
01:28:10.620 plus keep up the $12,000 per month in payments,
01:28:14.060 all while also building my internet business.
01:28:16.620 It requires money to build a business.
01:28:18.940 But Judge Alden just kept asking me the same question over and over again.
01:28:22.920 Mr. Hart, what is your plan for paying Mrs. Hart the hundred...
01:28:25.920 Oh, my gosh.
01:28:28.500 People don't know how to do math.
01:28:30.900 You know, I got accused of having slave colonizer contracts last year
01:28:36.820 because a certain someone was too stupid to add.
01:28:43.660 Sorry.
01:28:45.520 The dollars you owe her, and my answer was always some variation of this.
01:28:49.680 This is girl math.
01:28:50.720 It's girl math.
01:28:51.440 Just wait.
01:28:51.820 Your Honor, I will pay Betsy the $100,000 I owe her as soon as I possibly can.
01:28:57.640 And then I'd explain that Betsy destroyed my ad agency by sending subpoenas to all of my clients.
01:29:02.640 I am now building a new business that's working, an online marketing education business,
01:29:07.420 but it needs about six more months to build up.
01:29:10.880 Again, Judge Alden would ask, Mr. Hart, what's your plan for paying Mrs. Hart the $100,000 you owe her?
01:29:18.680 And I would come back with essentially the same answer.
01:29:20.840 Your Honor, I will pay Betsy the $100,000 as soon as I can.
01:29:25.260 I just need some more time for my internet business to build.
01:29:28.880 Judge Alden had my bank statements and my credit card.
01:29:31.200 Yeah, and that's the thing.
01:29:32.020 You lose money before you make money.
01:29:35.840 You lose money before you make money.
01:29:38.120 But again, well, thank you for the new subscriber.
01:29:45.400 Oh, is it a super chat?
01:29:49.200 Yeah.
01:29:50.060 Okay.
01:29:50.220 modern women hate their husbands more than they love their can you read it i can't i can't see it
01:29:55.960 here wait where is it oh it's at the bottom okay never mind women should never be judged
01:30:01.540 no no no sorry youtube i'm sorry most women should never be judges no
01:30:09.600 Oh, God damn it.
01:30:17.980 Okay, sorry.
01:30:19.200 Wait, what did I do?
01:30:20.160 So no.
01:30:20.780 Wait, what did I do?
01:30:22.100 Okay, wait.
01:30:23.560 What did I?
01:30:24.340 Oh, okay.
01:30:24.860 I turned off the lighting.
01:30:26.280 Okay, hold on.
01:30:27.800 Sorry, guys.
01:30:28.560 I got carried away.
01:30:30.680 Women should never.
01:30:32.220 I did it again.
01:30:34.700 Dee, you're killing me.
01:30:36.140 You're killing me.
01:30:38.320 Women should never.
01:30:39.600 i'm so stupid sorry some women some women should never be judges while there are a few men in
01:30:46.840 today's day and age that have learned to judge logically and impartially without emotion
01:30:50.760 i have not met a single woman that can do so even me i'm still a woman and this is why people always
01:31:01.140 think i'm trying to like say that i'm special or different no i'm still a chick every chick
01:31:09.060 We have a default programming.
01:31:11.880 We have default.
01:31:13.840 Abandon the kids at all.
01:31:16.460 Betsy and I got a divorce.
01:31:18.280 About half of marriages in America.
01:31:19.700 Oh, no.
01:31:20.440 Did I lose the time stamp?
01:31:23.380 No.
01:31:25.100 $12,000 per month in support.
01:31:28.280 So all in all, I'm $148,000 short in terms of immediate cash due.
01:31:34.720 Why the hell did you agree to all that, asked the processing officer.
01:31:37.520 oh did he get to be in jail if you had just paid what you owe oh here we're back here and i was
01:31:44.000 still dressed in my business suit when i entered this large holding cell area which is really like
01:31:48.540 a giant welcome tara welcome ezekiel okay cage with maybe 40 other inmates in there
01:31:57.720 the jail door clanks behind me an enormous 300 pound black guy called big daddy said to me
01:32:04.300 Hey, what are you in here for with that nice suit, red tie, and shiny shoes?
01:32:09.860 Some kind of computer fraud or bank fraud or something?
01:32:12.340 Oh, wait, were we?
01:32:13.240 We weren't there yet, right?
01:32:14.540 I think we're here.
01:32:15.300 To the custody of the sheriff.
01:32:17.380 At this point, police officers put...
01:32:19.580 But there was this big Google ad spend.
01:32:21.940 Okay, here we go.
01:32:22.620 So not much net income yet.
01:32:24.860 Then Judge Alden picked up a copy of a book I had written.
01:32:27.440 It was sitting there on her desk, titled How to Write Blockbuster Sales Letters,
01:32:32.140 which is a great book, by the way.
01:32:34.120 Judge Alden starts reading from the book.
01:32:36.360 She quotes a passage from my book.
01:32:38.380 The people you are writing your sales letters to are not stupid.
01:32:41.400 They are intelligent people.
01:32:43.240 Pretend you are writing your sales letter to Warren Buffett.
01:32:46.020 Anticipate the questions he might have.
01:32:48.040 The people you are writing to are not idiots.
01:32:51.120 She then looks at me and says, I'm not an idiot, Mr. Hart.
01:32:55.240 What is your plan for paying Mrs. Hart the $100,000 you owe her?
01:33:00.280 And I said, Your Honor, I don't know what else to say beyond what I've already said.
01:33:05.420 I will pay her as much as I can each month in addition to the $12,000 per month that I've been paying her and will continue to pay.
01:33:11.480 But I think it's going to take four to six months for me to build up my internet business enough so I can pay her the $100,000.
01:33:18.660 At this point, Judge Alden said, Mr. Hart, you were remanded to the custody of the sheriff.
01:33:24.560 Bailiff, remand Mr. Hart to the custody of the sheriff.
01:33:27.540 of. At this point police officers put my hands behind my back and put the handcuffs on. I'm like
01:33:33.520 what's happening here? I try to tell Judge Alden, your honor, I'm supposed to teach an online class
01:33:39.980 tonight to my students who are paying $38 a month. What the heck? I don't think she heard me or she
01:33:45.840 did. She didn't care. I look at Betsy and her legal team as I'm being hauled out of the courtroom.
01:33:51.020 I silently mouth the words, what the F to them? And then I look at Wanda who is sitting more
01:33:56.580 toward the back of the courtroom. And I silently mouth the words to her, what the if? And Wanda's
01:34:02.420 looking pretty distressed. I'm walked out the door by the officer. The door is connected directly to
01:34:07.680 a small elevator, which is really a cage as I remember it, which goes straight down into the
01:34:12.840 basement of the prison. And I'm in this sort of cage-like elevator with one police officer.
01:34:18.840 And my hands are cuffed behind my back. I say to the officer, what just happened? He says,
01:34:25.380 this happens a lot in Judge Alden's courtroom. I feel bad for you.
01:34:30.660 The next thing you know, I'm sitting in a large holding cell in Fairfax County, Virginia Jail,
01:34:35.080 with a big crowd of inmates waiting to be processed in, to include MS-13 gang members
01:34:41.500 and members of the notorious R Street gang in Washington, D.C.
01:34:45.880 Some of them look like they were from the movie Menace to Society.
01:34:48.880 And I was still dressed in my business suit when I entered this large holding cell area,
01:34:52.760 which is really like a giant cage with maybe 40 other inmates in there.
01:34:57.800 The jail door clanks behind me.
01:35:00.220 An enormous 300-pound black guy called Big Daddy said to me,
01:35:04.200 Hey, what are you in here for with that nice suit, red tie, and shiny shoes?
01:35:09.300 Some kind of computer fraud or bank fraud or something?
01:35:12.660 And I said, Nah, I came up short on money I owe to my ex-wife.
01:35:17.240 So I launch off into my story about what just happened in Judge Leslie Alden's courtroom.
01:35:22.640 Big Daddy called out to the other inmates. He said, hey guys, come over here. You gotta hear
01:35:27.520 this guy's story. This story is great. And they all gathered around to listen. And Big Daddy was
01:35:33.600 clearly the dominant figure in the group. His voice was loud and booming. Plus he was huge.
01:35:39.440 I would guess he's about six foot seven. I was sitting on the cement bench next to Big Daddy.
01:35:44.800 We were there for many hours because life in jail is not a fast moving process. And they all seemed
01:35:50.160 to like me they're all laughing including the guy with the nazi swastika tattoo on his face
01:35:56.160 and they all couldn't believe i agreed how funny is it this guy's hanging out with people the nazi
01:36:00.640 what my ex 1.8 million dollars plus the 12 000 someone said big daddy was falling in love
01:36:10.400 guys chill out chill out i was still a hundred thousand dollars short well actually i was short
01:36:16.160 more than that because judge alden had also awarded betsy attorney's fees plus interest so
01:36:21.520 the bill iota at this point was 148 000 one guy who looked like a character out of menace to
01:36:27.280 society goes what the f did you give her all that money for and leave yourself with nothing
01:36:32.880 then big daddy says here's what you need to do you need to phone your ex and you need to say in your
01:36:38.800 sweetest possible voice you need to say dear sweetie honey i can't pay you any money sitting
01:36:47.120 in here and then make a deal and there was one phone in the holding area but there was a big
01:36:53.120 line of inmates waiting to use the phone and you needed a phone card to use the phone i didn't have
01:36:58.560 a phone card yet big daddy had a phone card which he let me use at his expense that was just amazing
01:37:07.200 big daddy was awesome he didn't have to do that i'm very glad he liked me i was able to get betsy
01:37:13.520 on the phone but this was a little bit like having tara said my dad experienced something
01:37:18.400 similar it gets even worse when cps gets involved and says your brother your father should only have
01:37:24.640 supervised visits because a cps cunt observed an open bible in his home wow and i i think we're
01:37:32.000 going to do maybe like one or two call-ins at the end of this. So if you guys have a story that's
01:37:37.680 similar to this, you know, feel free to call in at the end.
01:37:40.620 ...with Osama bin Laden. She just kept saying, well, you wouldn't be in jail if you had just
01:37:45.320 paid what you owe. And she seemed pretty amused by the whole thing.
01:37:49.220 Fortunately, I had a wonderful support network, and I had had...
01:37:52.320 1.8 million dollars. Brett, please offer a retraction on this. Dear God, please. Please.
01:38:00.260 I'm begging you please full church life and and was already walking with God
01:38:05.720 and then he used that to come in and draw me I think so much closer to
01:38:09.740 himself when we say this is really hard but I'm walking with God anyway I also
01:38:14.500 call Wanda to tell her what's happening she's obviously very upset and cussing
01:38:19.080 out Betsy and I couldn't stay on the phone long because there was a big line
01:38:22.940 of inmates waiting to use the phone plus I didn't want to run up the bill on Big
01:38:27.140 Daddy's phone card. Then one of the guards called out my name, and I exited the holding cell area
01:38:33.200 with the guards. I never saw a Big Daddy again. What a bigger-than-life character. A guard put me
01:38:39.940 in. I wonder what happened to Big Daddy.
01:38:45.320 Cups and led me to the processing area. I was seated handcuffed to a metal chair next to an
01:38:50.720 officer who was inputting data into a computer. He pulled up my record. He looked at my record
01:38:56.860 and said, what did you say to this judge to get one year in jail? Wait, I'm here for a year? What
01:39:03.880 for? Judge Alden had never said anything about this. All she had said was bailiff remand Mr.
01:39:10.080 Hart to the custody of the sheriff. That was all she said. Nothing about one year in jail.
01:39:15.820 Doesn't that require a trial and a jury or something? Nope. For contempt of court, a judge
01:39:21.960 can put you into jail for up to one year. And then I guess extend it from there if she wants.
01:39:26.860 So the officer read from the screen and says, well, this says you're here for contempt of court.
01:39:32.700 It says you owe $148,000 to your ex-wife, and you're here for a year.
01:39:38.320 How did you get $148,000 behind on your child support, he asks.
01:39:42.820 And I said, well, it's not really support.
01:39:45.200 I paid my ex about $1.7 million in the assets we had, which was pretty much all our assets,
01:39:50.440 But I still owe her $148,000 to bring the total to $1.8 million in cash up front and at the get-go.
01:39:59.100 I also agreed to pay her $12,000 per month in support.
01:40:03.560 So all in all, I'm $148,000 short in terms of immediate cash due.
01:40:10.160 Why the hell did you agree to all that, asked the processing officer.
01:40:13.680 Who was this judge in your case?
01:40:16.100 Judge Leslie Alden, I said.
01:40:18.320 Oh, that explains it, said the cop.
01:40:20.440 yep that judge really hates oh no way i can contact her
01:40:28.920 four hundred and seventy five dollars an hour
01:40:34.280 and dm it to me dm me if you if you have the link on instagram
01:40:38.120 what's my new instagram name it's like just pearly things official yeah but you guys should
01:40:43.320 go follow me on there because they do i used to have like 400k they deleted it
01:40:47.240 it. Big L, they took that away. It's just annoying.
01:40:51.360 Then, this happens a lot in her courtroom. After the officer finished inputting my info
01:40:57.840 and giving me an inmate number, I was taken in cuffs to an area and given a green jumpsuit.
01:41:04.360 Now I said in my previous video that it was an orange jumpsuit, but Wanda reminds me that
01:41:08.420 it was actually green. This was 18 years ago, and I always think of pretty much. The cops
01:41:13.480 then took my business clothing, wallet, watch, phone, and everything I had, and put it all
01:41:17.740 in a plastic bag for safekeeping, to be returned whenever I get out.
01:41:22.080 The next thing you know, I'm buck naked and getting a full-body cavity search by police
01:41:27.160 officers in the basement of the Fairfax County, Virginia jail, before getting into my prison
01:41:32.460 jumpsuit and chained to 11 other inmates.
01:41:36.060 We were led to our cell block.
01:41:38.080 My cellmate was a Cherokee Indian, who said he had been convicted of 47 felonies.
01:41:43.060 And right now, he's in for attempted murder.
01:41:45.680 We actually got along very well.
01:41:47.520 He gave me lots of great legal advice.
01:41:49.840 He told me I would not really be in there for a year.
01:41:52.560 This is contempt of court.
01:41:54.340 The judge is just trying to scare the shit out of you.
01:41:56.500 Your number one objective right now, he said, is to find a way to get a letter to the judge.
01:42:01.520 You've got to say whatever you have to say to get out of here.
01:42:04.840 And this is no white-collar work-release type program for non-violent offenders.
01:42:09.340 It's clear Judge Leslie Alden really wanted to send me a message by putting me here.
01:42:14.040 There are about 1,800 inmates in the Fairfax County Jail.
01:42:17.380 The way our cell block was set up is there was one common area that linked to six cells where we slept.
01:42:24.320 Each cell has two cement beds for two inmates.
01:42:28.020 On the cement bed is a thin pad, barely a pad at all, really, and no pillow.
01:42:34.340 And my cellmate was the Cherokee Indian.
01:42:37.100 We would talk for hours in there.
01:42:38.700 Not just about my legal case, but about philosophy of life and all kinds of stuff.
01:42:43.980 We were locked out of our sleeping cells all day.
01:42:46.820 So the 12 inmates in this cell block were in the same small all-cement common area all day.
01:42:53.840 So we spent all day there just shooting the bull.
01:42:56.780 There was one toilet and one shower out in the open in plain view of everyone.
01:43:01.080 And you got used to it after a while.
01:43:03.140 I got along fine with everyone, even though most were in there on serious violent felony charges.
01:43:08.700 We spent a lot of time talking about how to get me out of there.
01:43:12.060 In fact, that was the main topic of conversation.
01:43:15.500 Everyone agreed with a Cherokee Indian that I needed to write a letter to the judge and offer a payment plan.
01:43:20.480 We talked about how much I should offer.
01:43:22.820 I thought maybe $2,000 a month.
01:43:25.260 They all thought that was way too much.
01:43:27.400 Problem is, if you can't come up with the money every month, he'll be right back here,
01:43:31.440 said the MS-13 guy who was covered in tattoos, including tattoos on his face.
01:43:37.080 Offer $300 a month, said the white guy with a Nazi swastika tattoo on his neck
01:43:41.460 who looked like Charles Manson.
01:43:43.700 I settled on offering $1,000 a month to Judge Leslie Alden and see what happens.
01:43:48.780 Everyone in the cell block thought this was way too much.
01:43:51.720 The Cherokee Indian thought that Judge Leslie Alden would probably let me out
01:43:55.580 if I offered $500 per month.
01:43:57.820 But I decided on $1,000.
01:44:00.080 I wanted to get out of there.
01:44:02.040 I didn't want to take a chance on offering too little
01:44:03.940 and then maybe have to be there another week or another month or whatever.
01:44:08.000 I also figured Judge Alden isn't stupid.
01:44:10.480 She must know I can't pay Betsy anything sitting in here.
01:44:13.520 And my ex is already getting $12,000 per month.
01:44:16.560 But I could not continue paying that if I'm sitting.
01:44:19.500 Dee says, sadly, I won't activate TikTok, Telegram, or Facebook
01:44:23.820 because I view them as communist-controlled platforms.
01:44:27.460 Twitter is a little better, but I'm glad you started the Audacity Network.
01:44:31.240 Thank you.
01:44:32.660 And that's what I'm trying to do.
01:44:33.940 I really want this network to be funded by the people for the people.
01:44:37.920 I don't want big donors.
01:44:39.960 I don't want, you know, I want to be able to create movies someday.
01:44:45.540 I want to create all of the content that, you know, is just, you know, even music someday.
01:44:53.920 That's really the vision I see.
01:44:55.300 I want to get, like, based professions, based lawyers, based there.
01:44:59.020 I'd even sign a liberal, honestly.
01:45:01.200 We want someone to debate.
01:45:02.440 what what's the what's the harm free speech you know um we also got a new
01:45:07.480 invoice or oh that's the same thing okay here so it was in everyone's
01:45:13.900 interest to get me out of there pronto so I could start making money again the
01:45:18.300 problem is Tara says so convicted murderers and felons are easier to get
01:45:23.320 along with than his ex-wife could not get a pen we were not allowed to have
01:45:31.160 anything that could be used as a weapon. After three days in there, I got a visit from the head
01:45:35.540 of the prison, the warden himself. He came all the way down to the deepest, darkest hole in the
01:45:40.580 prison to find out what I had done to end up there. Out of the 1,800 inmates, he wanted to
01:45:46.100 talk to me, Ben Hart. I guess he had read my file and wanted to hear the story. So how did you get
01:45:51.740 $148,000 behind on your child support, he asked. And why did the judge put you in here? The warden
01:45:58.580 was talking to me through the bars of a small window in the steel door of our cell block.
01:46:03.200 I explained that I did not get $148,000 behind on my child support. I then went through all the
01:46:08.480 details of how I paid her close to $1.7 million plus $12,000 a month in support, all payments
01:46:15.240 made. But I had fallen $100,000 short on the $1.8 million we'd agreed to. Then the judge tacked on
01:46:21.340 another $48,000 for interest in attorney's fees. Just wasn't able to come up with the final $100,000
01:46:27.060 plus the $48,000. Who was the judge? The warden asked. Judge Leslie Alden, I answered.
01:46:34.800 That explained it, said the warden. She's a real man-hater. Looks like you really pissed her off.
01:46:41.800 He paused. He looked at his file of papers. He then said, even though you've been sentenced to
01:46:47.600 be here, I'm going to move you to work release. Trouble is, we don't have any jobs for you that
01:46:52.820 will help you pay off this $148,000 debt. The jobs we have pay $7 an hour. People who are in
01:46:59.700 work release are there because they're behind on child support. They pay their child support that
01:47:04.380 way. But this is not going to help you get out of your situation. Well, let me see what I can do
01:47:08.680 about this. I can't have you down here. About a day later, guards arrive. They take me to the
01:47:14.700 work release facility. This was low security. I was able to get a pen and write a letter to Judge
01:47:19.760 Leslie Alden, with my proposal to pay my ex $1,000 per month toward the $148,000 that I owed her,
01:47:26.860 plus keep up with my other obligations under the divorce decree. And actually, they would not let
01:47:32.000 me write my letter with a full-blown pen. What they gave me was a flexible plastic ink cartridge
01:47:37.460 with a metal writing tip on the end of it. Right? Metal writing tip on the end of it.
01:47:42.920 That looked kind of like this, though. I think it was clear. I think it was actually, it was a lot
01:47:46.440 more flexible than this. And it was not easy to write a decent looking letter with this flexible
01:47:51.040 ink cartridge. You had to try to hold the metal tip, the metal tip like this, and then write,
01:47:57.700 write the letter that way. So I eventually got this letter written, but I couldn't get a guard
01:48:02.780 to agree to take my letter to Judge Leslie Alden. So I call Wanda, and she could not come and get
01:48:08.720 my letter because it's not visitor's day. I asked Wanda to talk to the lawyers I had not paid,
01:48:13.360 who had quit my case the day before my hearing with Judge Alden.
01:48:17.620 Lawyers were allowed to visit inmates pretty much any time,
01:48:20.380 since legal representation is a constitutional right.
01:48:23.940 A junior lawyer for the firm came to the jail and took my letter to Judge Leslie Alden's office.
01:48:29.400 I did not hear anything back.
01:48:31.400 I thought, well, I guess I'm here for a year.
01:48:35.260 And I started to accommodate myself to that reality.
01:48:38.340 It's amazing how humans can get used to almost any reality over time.
01:48:42.180 whatever situation is becomes the new normal blessing can you put the call in link in the
01:48:47.460 chat because we're gonna i'm gonna watch this for a little longer but i think you guys get the idea
01:48:52.380 i'm gonna go a little longer you have it right blessing okay why don't you put it in the youtube
01:48:59.080 chat and in the audacity chat not x so guys if you have a story similar to this you want to share if
01:49:05.540 you went through the system.
01:49:08.060 Try to make the story
01:49:09.340 condense, like, don't,
01:49:11.180 unless it's this crazy, you know, but don't
01:49:13.380 give me, like, to the point story.
01:49:15.880 Okay. Baseline for
01:49:17.360 existence. And I met some very
01:49:19.440 interesting people in there, including a
01:49:21.420 high-powered attorney who apparently was
01:49:23.420 in there on some kind of fraud.
01:49:25.300 But I would say that most of the people in work
01:49:27.320 release were in there because they had fallen
01:49:29.340 behind on child support.
01:49:31.300 They would work during the day. And the other
01:49:33.480 crazy thing is that many
01:49:34.920 are in there also are in homeless shelters
01:49:39.380 because they've dealt with family court. This is everywhere, guys.
01:49:43.500 Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
01:49:45.900 ...turn to jail at night. The jobs were things like pick up the trash
01:49:49.640 on the side of the road, wash windows on buildings, hang drywall,
01:49:54.040 manual labor type jobs. And the pay, I think, was $7 an hour.
01:49:57.840 This money would then be sent to the mother of their children until they got caught up
01:50:01.820 with whatever they owe. Now, until then, I didn't know we still had debtor's prisons in America.
01:50:06.500 I thought debtor's prisons in the Western world went out with the 19th century or even the 18th
01:50:12.500 century. Wrong. America's prisons are packed with dads who have fallen behind on their child support.
01:50:19.980 Now, technically, you're not in jail for the debt. So I guess technically they're not debtor's
01:50:23.560 prisons. You're in jail for contempt of court. If you are behind on your court-ordered payments,
01:50:28.640 you are by definition in contempt of court.
01:50:32.160 And even though it's work release on pretty low security,
01:50:34.900 it doesn't mean there aren't rough characters in there.
01:50:38.020 There are some truly scary inmates in work release,
01:50:41.280 one white guy in particular.
01:50:43.400 He offered to solve my problem with my ex for $800.
01:50:46.660 I won't even repeat the details of what he said could be done.
01:50:50.240 So I stayed away from him.
01:50:51.580 Okay, but you see, so Brett, sorry, this was,
01:50:56.580 I need to organize it better.
01:50:57.860 I'm telling you, I'm telling you guys, this show, it's going to go to new heights when volleyball season is over.
01:51:04.460 Right now, I still have a crazy volleyball schedule in there like four days a week.
01:51:08.620 I have personal training.
01:51:09.940 I do a lot.
01:51:10.420 Anyways, it doesn't matter.
01:51:11.760 So I'm curious, guys, have any of you experienced something similar?
01:51:17.060 The link is in the chat.
01:51:18.500 It's a Zoom link.
01:51:19.880 Do we have anyone on the line?
01:51:22.120 You just put it in, right?
01:51:23.300 um but but these are these are the the deadbeat dads of america the majority of these cases
01:51:34.640 remember attorneys will tell you nine out of ten times when a child is alienated from the parent
01:51:39.040 it's the mother doing it to the father and what i've seen personally is when the father does it
01:51:46.820 to the mother, it's usually maybe the new girlfriend or his mom in the way. Men aren't
01:51:54.960 really big gossipers. That's just not a man thing to do.