In this episode of The Man, the Myth, the Legend, the legend, we have a special guest on the show this week, Cappy. Cappy is a pastor, author, speaker and author. He has written a book called "I Don't Want a Threesome with Jesus" and is the author of the book, "I don't want to have sex with Jesus". He's also the host of the popular podcast, "The Man, The Myth, The Legend" where he talks about all things Christian. In this episode Cappy and I talk about what it means to be a Christian in today's modern world and why it's so important to have a Christian wife.
00:00:22.660I do remember the olden days before the internet.
00:00:25.220and um yes the cheating and the philandering was going on back then i am a preacher's kid
00:00:31.900i got to see behind the church and it wasn't so much the cheating and the philandering i mean that
00:00:37.240happened but um i would say just what a a high percentage of quote christians who go to church
00:00:45.300aren't christians that was back in the 80s and the 70s people go there out of rote rehearsal or
00:00:51.280boredom or some ulterior motive. Um, and, and it does not surprise me now that you throw on the
00:00:57.620internet and the prospects and the finance and the profit that could come from whatever influencing
00:01:03.340your social media. Oh my God, I'm a cuckoo girl. Like that's only added fuel to the fire, but the,
00:01:07.960the foundations and the makings for it, they've always been there with humanity.
00:01:13.260Now it's just turned up to 12. Once you throw the internet on there.
00:01:16.980can you tell me about your book yeah it was not meant I did not time this with Sarah Stock or
00:01:23.840Elijah Wood or Elijah Schaefer you should have made them the cover I I didn't know the book came
00:01:30.060out old man roll got on the horn and he kindly told me hey you gotta do you know what's going
00:01:34.940on I'm like I don't know these people or anything like that he says but your timing's great so yeah
00:01:40.240I did write a book it's called I don't want a threesome with Jesus and it's it's basically a
00:01:46.300a secularist you know i'm not i'm not religious but uh i do not have my hand tied behind my back
00:01:53.020where i can speak blunt truths and it's it's kind of a pro-sex book for christians like no
00:01:58.780sex is good um no you shouldn't be ashamed about it uh here's what the biblical passage is
00:02:04.780generally it's a big green light for you to go and have sex uh but the main reason i want to
00:02:09.980write it is because i think you remember maybe a month or two ago where all these gals the the ones
00:02:16.860that you're you're highlighting today uh using christianity as a means to advance their social
00:02:23.500media presence and oh my god men are bad we're going to introduce feminism just to create chaos
00:02:29.580and drama and uh get themselves some some followers and make some money um that the
00:02:37.900i wanted to expose that especially in particular the i guess would consider it the modern day
00:02:45.420church or certainly the modern day marketplace of ideas for christianity which is the internet
00:02:49.420which is of all things and show that no the the these mainstream influencers that you see
00:02:56.460that claim to be christian i'm going to accuse the men of it too they're not real christians
00:03:00.300this is just a freaking act this is just a show how many of them might be christian light and have
00:03:09.100some tangential relationship to christ sure fine maybe but most of these people the real god is
00:03:16.940just getting attention getting traffic making money making a podcast and using christianity
00:03:24.540is the means to do it. And so now this is the latest one. Don't worry, there will be more. I
00:03:30.320don't know how many of your false gods I got, but this is the latest one to prove to you that it was
00:03:34.940all an act. I doubt she's Christian. It was just shtick. And to help, especially now with young
00:03:43.700Christian men, you, yeah, you do. You want to find, excuse me for a second. You want to find
00:03:48.240yourself a nice, pretty Christian wife. Well, here are all these pretty girls and, oh, oh my God,
00:03:52.160they're not christian so it it's just it's an important lesson to teach all those younger guys
00:03:56.940out there looking for traditional wife or especially within christianity that know what
00:04:01.820you see on the internet is fake and by a larger extent a lot of what you see on the internet is
00:04:06.100fake or unrelated to christianity i've noticed that no offense to your dad i'm not saying he
00:04:12.240was in this but i've noticed a lot of pastors um are just not smart enough to get real jobs
00:04:17.300and preachers girl i want to hug you i've never met you but i want to hug you because i met i met
00:04:24.600one like someone studying to be one and he told me that working like 40 hours a week was too much
00:04:31.240and i'm like and then now he's gonna go be a pastor and i'm like i think i think he might
00:04:36.520just not want to work you're you're 100 right the vast majority of people it's like politicians
00:04:42.740people would become a politician you don't want becoming politicians a lot of pastors don't want
00:04:47.640to work uh back in the olden days when when we just discovered fire pearl i wish you were there
00:04:53.320uh a lot of pastors back in the day were trying to avoid the vietnam war uh you go to school to
00:04:59.080get a degree no it's true you go to school you get a degree in divinity uh which is i don't want to
00:05:04.740say it's bullshit it does have a practical application but it is the liberal arts so it's
00:05:08.300not like oh i i can't wait to go get a job at the divinity factory like you are going to become a
00:05:13.520pastor and that's about it and a lot of his ego you ever see um it's the clint eastwood movie
00:05:19.960where he's in detroit grand torino have you ever seen that movie they paint the pastor there
00:05:25.640perfectly he's this 26 year old baby face kid clint eastwood is this uh grizzled veteran from
00:05:32.860the korean war and this 26 year old kid is trying to give clint eastwood who i think in this time
00:05:39.960was late 70s life advice and it's like no no no you i'm sorry i don't trust a pastor unless he's
00:05:48.360got gray hair or served in war if you're under 30 uh it it is too academic it's too idealistic
00:05:56.240And a lot of people who go into the clergy, Christian or not, a lot of them are just
00:06:02.840egomaniacs who want to want to lord over people and have a flock to follow them.
00:06:07.740Well, what's incredible is there's like criminals that become pastors and like people with these
00:06:14.080crazy life stories. And I'm like, why would they be the one to nag me about the Bible?
00:06:19.120I'll pick anybody else. I could I can understand a harding criminal that saw poverty and horror
00:06:25.320and death and drug but that's because you went through something but you'd have to be like 40
00:06:31.340or 45 years old and have your shit together otherwise like oh yeah and then I spent all
00:06:36.140my time like literally helping building buildings or something like that so I don't want I want to
00:06:39.440slam all pastors or people of the cloth but it but yes you can see oh I was a drug addict and
00:06:46.800I got clean you know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna become a pastor I'm gonna become a non-profit
00:06:52.140worker i'm become a therapist it's like why don't you all become accountants or like oil rig workers
00:06:57.580or some practical no it's always let me tell everybody else so i'll give the hardened criminal
00:07:04.220who you know saw bad stuff came i'll give them a little bit more credit but the hey i'm sober
00:07:10.380you know what i think i'm going to help other people get sober it's like no shut up you just
00:07:14.140don't want to work at that but you you nailed it on the head there's and surprise a lot of these
00:07:20.060pastors who are cowardly when it comes to work ethic and doing hard work and real work surprise
00:07:27.740are they gonna start quoting i i used to remember the the numbers in the chapter are they gonna
00:07:33.580quote the passages in the bible like submit to your man you have to have sex they're they don't
00:07:39.900have the spine to work they're not gonna have the spine to stand up to feminism and the even not
00:07:45.980from the female parishioners say hey you got to hold up this end of the bargain so it shouldn't
00:07:50.380surprise anyone that whether they're in the church or not these i guess we would call them false
00:07:57.180christians or ulteriorly motivated christian women are taking advantage of the church because there's
00:08:03.260no pushback starting with the pastor so tell me more about your book um what are so you said that
00:08:10.140how can you be pro-sex if you're also religious well you you are all all religions sorry i meant
00:08:19.500like um like how does a christian guy date like because there's a lot of guys that like they want
00:08:25.020to wait till marriage and do it the right way but that market just doesn't allow for them to do that
00:08:30.380so what doesn't allow them to do that well it's just you know they only have on the menu right
00:08:37.180Oh, no. Well, the book is that's why I wrote it, is because Christian men in particular, but Christian women as well, they find themselves in a very difficult situation, especially if you're younger.
00:08:48.920And based on what I see on the Internet, you have and I'm simplifying it a lot, but you have a lot of people who have an ulterior interest in specifically men's Christian sex lives, Christians in general.
00:09:02.580and the largest factor i would say would be feminism which even if girls are christian
00:09:10.120they are also part of society and they just get that operating system installed on them which then
00:09:15.300compromises or certainly makes more difficult for men and women to get together certainly under
00:09:20.820biblical terms and rules and laws and so what you find are these christian men i don't even know the
00:09:28.240husband's name of the Sarah gal oh yeah well he's innocent I mean I don't but it's like the same
00:09:36.020thing right he tried to do it the right way yes yeah and it didn't work and so I think but I think
00:09:41.760a lot of guys they don't want to go to hell right I'd like so I've talked to like Christian guys
00:09:45.460about this they don't want to go to hell they don't want to have sex outside of marriage but
00:09:49.140they they also can't like what are they supposed to do you know it's it's a catch-22 because what's
00:09:56.280essentially happening here is you have two different groups of people playing by two sets
00:10:00.220of rules. In this particular case, the girl was the secularist who's going to play by secular
00:10:06.260rules, but not Christian ones. And her husband presumably was very religious and he was playing
00:10:11.940by the religious rules. And you compare it to any kind of game. If I got to play by one set of
00:10:18.980rules, but you got to play by two sets of rules. So if we're going to play football, but you got
00:10:23.780throw with your weak arm and you can only hop whereas i get to run for yardage you're gonna
00:10:28.580have a harder time now that's any religious person whether you're jewish or muslim or christian or
00:10:32.980whatever you got your secular rules you got to obey which is be in physical shape ask out a lot
00:10:38.340of girls girls you got to be in shape you got to you know flirt with guys so those are your natural
00:10:43.540rules everybody plays by but then religious people have this whole other set of rules
00:10:47.860depending on what their scripture happens to say and most of them are like no premarital sex