Pearl - Panel Show： Are Men or Women the Buyers in the Marriage Market？

00:00:00.000 what up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily today we are doing our debate

00:00:08.160 maybe not debate panel show on wednesday where we invite different youtubers content creators to

00:00:15.600 weigh in on a topic and we even extend it out to the people in the chat so you guys can call in

00:00:21.060 um so a couple announcements uh we're going to test out a later show time when i was looking

00:00:28.860 at entertainment and just the different YouTubers, entertainers, it seems like everybody likes the

00:00:36.920 9 p.m. slot. I've tested a lot of different times on the channel, but if you guys like this time,

00:00:42.780 I kind of want to see if we get a better, if we get better callers, because I think 7 to 9 is when

00:00:52.560 we normally do the show, but I feel like people are doing stuff at that time, so at 9, you know,

00:00:58.600 people are home unless you're in California, maybe. So I found the clip I was looking for last

00:01:05.500 show. So I'm going to show that first. So as you guys, you know, I talk about traditional

00:01:10.320 conservative women. So typically trad con women go into the industry to marry rich. That's usually

00:01:18.660 their, um, their ploy. Now, typically they're going to claim to be traditional or, you know,

00:01:25.460 signal it in some way, maybe. But you'll notice that they exhibit the same behaviors of modern

00:01:35.340 women. Because if you're really a traditional woman, you marry your high school or your college

00:01:39.740 sweetheart, you don't keep trying to do better and better and better, right? And typically women,

00:01:47.380 we tend to want more control and leverage. And we keep working, even when we have kids and stuff,

00:01:53.600 We're kind of like F them kids. Do you know what I mean? And usually we mouth off on the internet

00:01:58.940 and the rich husbands have to pay for it. So we saw this with Candace Owens, right? Candace Owens

00:02:03.900 married George Farmer, guy worth $300 million and, um, or 150. He's worth a lot of money, right?

00:02:12.160 And now she gets to mouth off on the internet and he gets to pay for it. It's awesome.

00:02:17.120 Uh, usually when men mouth off on the internet, they accept the consequences like Nick, for example,

00:02:21.880 let a gunman show up at his house. He's also been dragged to court. Alex Jones lost everything.

00:02:27.320 And you just don't see that as much with women because usually the women will have the men pay

00:02:31.620 for it. And I thought I'd have to like, well, how do you say? I found a clip of Brett Cooper

00:02:40.800 admitting exactly this. And I was like, Brett, thank you so much. Thank you. Yeah. So here we

00:02:48.720 making significantly more he's like do you ever want to like stop okay wait let me spend he's

00:02:55.120 making significantly all right so now we got the pictures right now usually the women what they do

00:02:59.920 is they claim they're not using they claim they care about family more than anything right but

00:03:04.560 then they cover politics do you know what i mean that's like a great way to put your family at risk

00:03:10.640 right then they say oh well just marry a nice guy and then they always marry rich right they say

00:03:18.960 don't marry for money and then they always marry for money and then they say i care about my family

00:03:24.400 while simultaneously using their family to build their brand like when men of social media

00:03:29.600 they usually just post the cool stuff they're doing like their fish or whatever when women

00:03:34.560 they got to use their husband and their kids to signal i am a good person i am high status so

00:03:41.120 that's usually what you see more he's like if you ever want to like stop working completely i want

00:03:46.320 to be able to let you do that and we don't have to change our lives we don't have to worry about it

00:03:50.640 okay so you're gonna see now she has the opportunity to stop working and we're gonna

00:03:56.320 see where the rubber hits the road if she's able to walk away when she has a kid i don't even think

00:04:01.520 she really should to be honest i i wouldn't even say that she should but you have to understand um

00:04:10.240 it's just not traditional it's not what they're selling right it's um i want all the benefits i

00:04:14.800 want the clout from being traditional while doing all of the non-traditional things um

00:04:22.240 i care about my kids but not enough to walk away from my job which sacrifices their privacy

00:04:28.480 yeah that's always how it goes anything and i want to protect you especially as i've kind of

00:04:33.920 made this whole career i care about my kids and my husband but i'll use them for money on the

00:04:39.240 internet you know what i mean it's just you know shift of leaving a situation where i had a w-2 job

00:04:44.300 and i was salary and then it's the same thing right they go and they make money off of men

00:04:48.320 so a man will have a company they'll make money then they'll crash out and burn the bridge we

00:04:52.820 see brett cooper did that um she crashed out on her boss the girl taking her job just typical

00:04:59.820 then you see candace owens do it too it's just it's just annoying you know great employee

00:05:07.220 to where i've now jumped to my income is based on basically then you know it's like they're the

00:05:13.380 hero and the victim in their own story so you know they always make it sound like they overcame some

00:05:19.160 feet but their husband's really the one paying for what i put out i would have been able to do

00:05:25.060 that if it wasn't for his you know support and being able to there you go they marry rich and

00:05:30.980 have their husbands pay for it make that happen i make good money but my husband the average like

00:05:36.400 the average conservative woman marries a guy worth like i think it's four billion dollars

00:05:41.420 now i look it good for you you played the game and won but what i get annoyed is i just don't

00:05:50.440 like being gaslit and told that the game isn't the game that's where i get annoyed

00:05:54.320 that's where i get annoyed

00:05:58.300 all right so whenever um doug mpa

00:06:04.620 and I go back and forth

00:06:08.540 before a show

00:06:09.480 oh my gosh

00:06:17.140 oh but I need to

00:06:22.480 Murray came on the other day

00:06:24.820 and I need to read this tweet

00:06:26.240 because this is a savage

00:06:27.340 the Murray system

00:06:29.200 make six figures

00:06:30.620 use beautiful mids as warm ups

00:06:33.500 raw dog always rotate the roster bi-weekly after care call her uber while texting the next one and

00:06:41.140 your roster over her feelings all right do you know what i mean it's like all right all right

00:06:49.480 all right so anyways back to the topic so whenever um me and doug mpi are on the phone we like kind

00:06:56.480 to go over what show topics we want to do. And I always know that if me and him are going

00:07:03.800 back and forth, it would make a good topic. So we are going to talk about who are the

00:07:10.760 buyers in the current dating market. So I was having a conversation the other day about

00:07:16.780 the dating market and who really holds the power. A lot of channels...

00:07:26.480 Wait, I don't say that. Hold on. So I don't even catch that earlier. All right. So

00:07:33.960 oh, here. Okay. All right. I was having a conversation the other day and, you know,

00:07:44.160 at one point I would have said that men are the buyers in the dating market.

00:07:48.540 And I thought about using the car analogy to like illustrate this, you know, because I'll hear Myron

00:07:55.400 and talk on, um, fresh and fit. And, um, he'll say like 30 year old women can't compete with

00:08:04.020 20 year old women. And I, you know, I thought about it and I just thought that's just simply

00:08:07.940 not true. Um, it's simply not true. I have seen 30 year old women, um, out compete 20 year old

00:08:16.540 women. And that's because the 20 year old women treat the man like shit. And the 30 year old

00:08:21.480 woman was nice to him you know i mean all things being equal she'll never win but i've even seen

00:08:27.840 manosphere guys date marry women over 30 women with children i've seen it right and it's not

00:08:34.500 it's not not an attack not an attack at all um but i liked the analogy i enjoyed the car analogy

00:08:42.180 because i i was thinking about it and you know there are luxury cars right and there's a big

00:08:50.300 luxury car market, but men, there's still a huge used car market. And if anything, the used car

00:08:57.840 market at times has had more buyers, right? You know, like what's going to have more buyers,

00:09:05.820 the used, like the brand new price or the car with X amount of miles that's 50% off.

00:09:14.340 And I thought that was a decent analogy with women.

00:09:19.580 But I was kind of bouncing.

00:09:21.800 Sometimes when I write or I kind of think through these shows,

00:09:24.640 I like to bounce with the real world that I was bouncing off of.

00:09:27.740 A friend of mine, a different friend.

00:09:29.980 And he said, no, men are not the buyers.

00:09:33.760 Women are the buyers.

00:09:35.360 And he said that analogy, it gives women,

00:09:38.560 it makes it seem like men are the choosers.

00:09:43.440 but women are but really women are choosing us and i don't have so i decided to kind of

00:09:52.800 maybe amend this analogy and i thought in a way men have houses and they make the house like cool

00:09:59.720 like maybe they'll have like an offering or like a job posting but they're not really in control of

00:10:07.520 who applies, and they could give the job to the best applicant, right? But it's kind of

00:10:16.620 a shitty application process. Like the market out there, the people applying are kind of

00:10:22.120 terrible. And I just thought, you know, if men have that much control over who they marry,

00:10:27.820 I think that the women would be younger and hotter. But when I look at the wives, they're

00:10:31.900 old and fat. And I would say there's a small majority, small minority of men that maybe are

00:10:43.060 the buyers. This guy actually convinced me of this. He's like, there's a small minority of

00:10:50.360 men who are the buyers, but the majority of men are not the buyers. And I think a reason for this

00:10:58.340 is we're talking about men with frame and regular men men with brave are always the buyers that can

00:11:05.700 walk away but the problem is most men aren't and women are mistaken about the dualism making most

00:11:11.620 of them believe that they were in fact the buyers i'm reading something i was sent only because

00:11:19.300 most men turn themselves into the position of the seller by giving away their frame

00:11:24.020 If the men signing up had control over what they were buying, I would see them with hot young wives, but I see them with old fat ones.

00:11:33.140 So I'm a little bit split.

00:11:37.820 I got to be honest.

00:11:38.980 I'm kind of split on this.

00:11:42.120 But I'm going to start taking the position that women are the buyers.

00:11:49.020 because out of the arguments I heard, that one seemed the strongest to me.

00:11:55.200 However, I can be swayed. I really can.

00:12:01.240 You know, like if the 22-year-old women were dying to be married, right,

00:12:09.940 then I could argue that, you know, the men are the buyers.

00:12:14.460 But it's just not what I see, you know.

00:12:16.880 I see the 22-year-old women banging the guys and not calling them back.

00:12:21.320 Do you know what I mean?

00:12:24.860 You know?

00:12:28.260 There are specific men that have frame.

00:12:31.320 But, like, if I look at the average guy, right,

00:12:33.620 I don't see most men willing to walk away, like, ever.

00:12:37.920 I mean, six months into a relationship, they're kind of cooked.

00:12:42.420 Like, I don't see most men that get married.

00:12:44.940 I see the women successfully nagging them into it, if I'm being honest.

00:12:56.820 Guys are the renters.

00:12:58.360 That might be a better analogy.

00:12:59.980 I'm open to other analogies.

00:13:02.620 So I invited a lot of YouTubers to come on to this, or just people I know.

00:13:08.840 So hopefully at some point they'll join.

00:13:12.780 So let me make sure I send this out.

00:13:14.240 but for now i'm gonna put i'm gonna put doug mpa on the uh on the screen

00:13:21.440 doug mpa how's it going on hey how's it going good how are you i'm fantastic all right so what's

00:13:31.140 your case are men the buyers or the sellers or someone said the renters in the chat maybe that's

00:13:36.540 a better analogy so as long as men propose and marry men are the buyers what happens afterwards

00:13:44.840 it's completely different because there's a because you you keep making this thing where oh

00:13:50.260 yeah 22 year old girls and if men but here's the thing more all the data about how little women

00:13:59.280 want to get married is women under 30 i'm in my 40s i can tell you a switch flips after 30 and

00:14:06.920 most women will want to get married i think they say that though because they're fat like if they

00:14:13.880 really wanted to get married they wouldn't be fat yeah i understand that i agree go ahead i agree

00:14:19.840 i agree everything you're gonna say about that i agree but women feminists biggest conundrum is

00:14:26.660 The only thing they can say, women can do anything a man can do, that they can do it better, but they can't get a man to marry them.

00:14:34.260 Now, are men dumb enough to marry these women?

00:14:37.240 Yes.

00:14:38.120 But you have women who will not approach a man, will not propose to a man.

00:14:43.340 I've got on dates.

00:14:45.000 I dated with some of the most powerful women, surgeons, lawyers, police officers, and they will not propose to a man.

00:14:52.800 if the goal is see because i equivocate buying a car in the analogy to marriage

00:15:00.020 okay because when you buy a car you are making a long-term commitment you financially you are

00:15:09.220 legally responsible for for that vehicle you have to do the insurance and the maintenance

00:15:13.240 and men don't have to do that until they get they're not legally held responsible for the

00:15:19.960 maintenance of a woman until they get married if we're talking about um uh relationships and stuff

00:15:27.880 like that yes but the car analogy goes towards serious relationship commitment and marriage and

00:15:35.280 men will be the buyers as long as men have to initiate marriage at my age you have plenty of

00:15:40.960 men who've been married married and divorced and they meet women who are finally ready to settle

00:15:46.680 down but these men will not marry these women i have friends who will not get married again

00:15:52.040 ever so once again until women in mass propose to men men are the buyers because men women cannot

00:16:02.360 get married without a man proposing to them and signing that marriage certificate first but do

00:16:07.320 they propose usually because they want to or because the woman wants them to it doesn't

00:16:12.600 matter either way they have to do it i think it matters like i don't think like if he if you

00:16:18.840 nagged him into doing it that shows that she has the control yes yes but he could not do it too

00:16:25.640 plenty of men are nagged into doing it and don't do it too it's the action men have men initiate

00:16:33.320 marriage if men don't initiate marriage women can't have it therefore men are the buyers women

00:16:39.000 initiate the relationship so it wouldn't happen like i think if they if men had the control that

00:16:45.080 you're saying the women would be 22 and hot but they're not well here's the thing it doesn't

00:16:51.560 matter if she's 22 or 32 or 42 she can't get a marriage without a man proposing to her that's

00:16:57.960 my point the buying is the man proposing to a woman and marrying the woman that's what buying

00:17:03.480 a car and being a buyer is that is the transaction right there i think i'm switching on the buyer

00:17:09.960 analogy i don't think it's good because when you buy something you own it and you don't own you

00:17:15.320 can't like own own a woman without like authority and you don't have any authority i think i like

00:17:22.280 the renter analogy yeah i just met when you when you when you get to your 30s and your 40s you meet

00:17:32.520 women who are desperate it's like they're desperate to be married they want to know what

00:17:38.360 it's like they want to try it on and then divorce a guy they would will and and remember i'll add to

00:17:46.200 your little uh example here uh women women will they can't get access to the men that they want

00:17:54.680 to marry so they'll find a guy that they'll settle with oh he's good enough and then the that guy will

00:18:02.520 he may even know that he's being settled for but he'll propose anyway because he's either being

00:18:08.660 nagged or he wants to do the right thing or or he wants to have children but regardless of what's

00:18:14.000 going on he's the buyer because he initiates marriage i still don't think he initiates

00:18:21.620 because she like nags him into it like i think most wait we'll be finished i think most women

00:18:28.280 have the control in the relationship like if most men had the control in their relationship

00:18:34.280 then i would agree with you but most women are the ones running the show you could argue maybe

00:18:40.900 for second marriages right but most guys if they get married once like they're not going to do it

00:18:47.820 again yeah so so like like like the first time around like let's see let's just for shits and

00:18:55.560 giggles say first marriages the women totally run the show like they have a a time clock in their

00:19:01.660 head before they even meet the guy um women bang who they want but few but very few men meet their

00:19:10.480 irrational expectations they put up crazy numbers but are less satisfied men expectations are low

00:19:16.600 and therefore one more content women are getting action and it's at the expense of their sanity

00:19:23.480 i agree with you i i like the least i might have to switch like i feel like men i kind of like the

00:19:30.960 job application analogy i think this might be better and if you guys have a better analogy

00:19:36.280 you should call in and let me know but i think i prefer the job application

00:19:41.580 and sometimes the applicants are just terrible

00:19:45.400 yeah and it's like do you know what it's like what's it called what are the the markets like

00:19:55.300 in the applicant's favor when there's a shortage there's a job shortage or no whatever it is so

00:20:01.780 yeah like they they they a job surplus yeah and so it's like when they get the applications

00:20:09.240 the men are just like fine well well i'm gonna bring another wrinkle to this whole thing okay

00:20:17.180 single mothers guys are finally starting to wake up and not guys don't date single mothers don't

00:20:24.300 sleep with them don't date them don't marry them leave them alone and you're starting to see

00:20:28.840 single mothers crash out because men aren't even touching them right these women can't even get a

00:20:35.080 relationship and men let's say you're you're a single mother out there and you have a kid

00:20:42.040 and a guy wants to date you but he says i can't marry you marry you because you have a kid because

00:20:46.980 i don't want to be legally responsible for your child i don't want to pay child support she can't

00:20:52.600 be bought and taken off the mark when remember when a car is bought it's taken off the market

00:20:57.460 a guy will not take a single mother off the market oh yes they will nothing she can do about it

00:21:03.900 taking porn stars off the market yeah but i'd rather take a i mean okay i'm gonna bring up bp

00:21:11.820 j bpj this was a very good point in the chat he's on my side i think my my initial side i

00:21:19.580 have a little wishy-washy on this one so i can be swayed but bp go ahead yeah um how y'all doing um

00:21:28.140 the issue with the whole and i hope y'all can hear me i'm on the freeway yeah okay the issue

00:21:33.580 with the whole notion of oh well the man has to initiate well advertisers initiate but it's the

00:21:41.460 customers who buy right if we're saying if we're saying that can you guys hear me i know i can hear

00:21:51.500 you keep going yeah i was just i was saying that that we always like a lot of guys kind of cope

00:21:56.540 and say stuff like, oh, women initiate sex, but men initiate relationships. I don't think that's

00:22:05.460 true. Women initiate sex and relationships, and the same goes for marriage. You have a lot of

00:22:11.240 women, especially black women, who will deny and reject marriage proposals all the time.

00:22:18.300 Even women who are 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, they have plenty of men, even if they're average looking,

00:22:25.900 who want to marry them they just don't want to marry those men your average 30 year old woman

00:22:31.760 has more men on deck who are willing to marry them than your average 30 year old man has who

00:22:37.920 has women who are willing to marry them right or wrong what i'm saying is is i agree

00:22:44.160 a marriage proposal has to happen first for her to reject the proposal and a marriage proposal

00:22:50.120 has to happen first for her to say yes she can't say yes or no to a question that's never been

00:22:54.900 asked. That's what you people aren't understanding. Right, but that doesn't make them the...

00:22:58.180 Okay, so let's just say you're correct. Yes, it does.

00:22:59.900 That doesn't make them the buyer. Yes, it does.

00:23:06.840 Okay, so if I'm selling you something, I'm the

00:23:11.700 advertiser. I am selling you this product. I am initiating

00:23:15.680 the process, the transaction here. Who's the buyer? Me or you?

00:23:19.940 A woman has to be taken off the market. Well, come on now.

00:23:23.580 A woman has to be taken off the market, right?

00:23:25.940 Wait, wait, wait.

00:23:26.660 But I actually...

00:23:27.720 And a man takes her off the market.

00:23:28.980 Hold on.

00:23:29.420 But I asked you something really simple.

00:23:31.160 I have a product.

00:23:33.240 I'm going to you to sell the product.

00:23:38.340 Yes.

00:23:38.640 And I'm coming to you.

00:23:39.980 And I have to buy the product from the seller.

00:23:42.640 Wait, wait, wait.

00:23:43.340 I'm asking between me or you, who is the buyer?

00:23:46.620 I have to buy the product you're selling.

00:23:49.140 Yes.

00:23:49.420 So I'm the buyer.

00:23:50.520 Yes.

00:23:50.880 so in this case the woman is the buyer i make you an offer for your product yes yes so therefore

00:24:02.020 the proposal is really the offer and the woman says yes or no but he's saying like if women have

00:24:09.440 but if women if women have 10 guys that are like trying to marry them then the woman becomes the

00:24:15.660 buyer no all of them have to all of them have to give her an offer first okay so here's the issue

00:24:23.360 with what it is that you're saying if you're talking about your average looking so let me

00:24:27.880 ask you this question your average 30 year old woman does the average 30 year old woman have

00:24:32.500 at least two or three men who want to be in relationships with them yes or no

00:24:36.220 is she well i mean nowadays maybe no 25 yes i would say yes so is it is it yes or no i would

00:24:48.420 say i would say most women have two or three guys in the friend zone yeah even i would even say that

00:24:54.180 at 35 yeah i would i would too but let's just say 32 to let's just keep it fair and be and say 30 so

00:25:00.520 here's the issue your average let's look at your average 30 year old woman versus your average 30

00:25:05.520 year old man your average 30 year old woman has at least two or three men probably more than that

00:25:11.120 right because guess what an average white woman can go to can go to blackville and have a lot

00:25:16.760 more than that but let's just let's just keep it all simple right right let's be honest so

00:25:22.140 your average 30 year old woman has at least two or three men who are willing to be in a relationship

00:25:27.920 with them and guess what sir i would say that one or two of those men would marry them want to know

00:25:34.880 why that man would marry them?

00:25:36.780 Watch this, Pearl. The reason why

00:25:38.960 that man would marry her is because

00:25:41.060 to that man, that's pretty much

00:25:43.020 the best looking woman that he

00:25:44.920 could get. That's why he wouldn't marry

00:25:46.920 her. There is a

00:25:48.980 chance that all three of those men

00:25:50.740 could not propose ever.

00:25:54.200 And then she has nothing.

00:25:55.760 Okay, so let me ask you.

00:25:56.900 You're talking about

00:25:58.900 possibility. I'm talking about probability.

00:26:01.300 That's the problem.

00:26:01.940 but what i'm saying no go ahead doug go ahead i'm listening what i'm saying is here's the thing

00:26:07.140 you're not understanding about the the proposal itself because i'm so look i'm in my 40s man

00:26:14.640 i'm surrounded by men who were married once and will never marry again and all they encounter

00:26:20.840 is women who are who are desperate to get married and these men will never give it to them ever

00:26:27.000 i'm not so what happens is you're talking about men who but you're talking about men who've already

00:26:32.000 been married before let's talk about again put them in this i'm putting this i'm putting them

00:26:36.680 in the scenario yes 100 women can't get married which is which is most women's ultimate goal

00:26:42.620 still especially in the 30s and 40s without men offering marriage first that's all i'm saying

00:26:49.820 they can't achieve that status without without a man proposing yes men are simps yes men will

00:26:55.460 marry a two. Yes, but none of them can get married without a man

00:26:58.920 getting down. Obviously, but what I'm saying is

00:27:03.180 here's the issue. I'm talking about your average 30-year-old

00:27:07.440 man, your average 30-year-old woman. If you have an average

00:27:11.400 30-year-old woman, she has men on deck who wants to be

00:27:15.340 in a relationship with her and de facto a man

00:27:19.480 willing to marry them. They do. Whether or not that woman

00:27:23.480 wants to be in a relationship with that man is up to her you know why because she is the buyer

00:27:29.000 so what do you what do you have to say about his point where um they may not propose if they date

00:27:36.240 her what do you have to say about that point well he's talking about men and i hope y'all can hear

00:27:41.780 me i'm in the mountain yeah yeah you're good okay well he's talking well you keep on referring to

00:27:46.140 men who who were already married if i'm i'm talking about both no like doug you gotta let

00:27:51.040 I'm finished. I'll let you go, too, but I want to hear it.

00:27:53.260 Yeah, all good. So what I'm saying is that if you're talking about your average 30-year-old man and he is with a woman who he believes is a catch, because, again, the average man hasn't been with that many women, more than likely, if things are just going okay, more than likely, he would marry her.

00:28:10.940 I agree.

00:28:12.340 I'm not talking about, again, you're talking about, well, what if he doesn't marry her?

00:28:15.840 Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. You keep on going to, well, what if he doesn't marry her?

00:28:19.580 i'm talking about more than likely if he okay i need you to think about this really quickly

00:28:24.180 your average man does the average man get consistent sex the answer is no so he's in a

00:28:30.080 relationship with a mid which to him is about an eight or seven and he's getting consistent sex

00:28:36.280 from an eight or seven he's going to marry that woman case close see i think i think in the current

00:28:42.160 day the average man especially 30 30 and under have because remember men have had a voice on

00:28:50.040 youtube for 10 years at least right i think the average man is really starting to weigh his

00:28:56.700 options and isn't at least it isn't as willing to jump into a legally binding contract that'll

00:29:05.700 ham shaming him later on in life all all 30 year old men have a have have an uncle or a

00:29:12.900 or their dad or something who got crushed in divorce court i think we're going to see more 30

00:29:19.380 i'm putting more more stock in the average um the average man that he now more than ever he won't be

00:29:27.780 simped into walking into a marriage even if he isn't getting sex we see the stats about

00:29:33.700 you know you know neats you know uh and and all these all these men who refuse to grow up in the

00:29:40.580 crisis of young men who aren't men are actually weighing the consequences of marriage like none

00:29:48.500 like no other time so i think that even if a man is not getting sex he will weigh the benefits of

00:29:55.780 getting married men aren't just i think some are i think the second time but not the first time

00:30:01.860 time maybe you could argue the second time but the first time also they get a half decent looking

00:30:08.280 poonanny and they're like on their knee yeah also what you have to factor in is that most men don't

00:30:14.040 learn from other people's mistakes like that like like they don't they don't so even if what you're

00:30:19.320 saying is true they're not looking at their uncle and saying to themselves that's gonna be me and

00:30:23.640 plus again most 30 year old men don't have an empire to ruin like that they don't they're not

00:30:28.420 I'm going to land with this.

00:30:31.480 If an average 30-year-old man

00:30:33.140 is getting consistent sex,

00:30:35.520 he is going to do what he can

00:30:37.320 to keep that consistent sex

00:30:39.240 afloat. Right or wrong?

00:30:41.520 See, I don't... You know what?

00:30:44.260 With the frequency

00:30:45.340 that men are staying at home...

00:30:46.760 Wait, wait, wait.

00:30:48.420 You know what?

00:30:51.340 30-year-old men

00:30:52.440 and under, they're not slaves to sex

00:30:54.860 like my generation was.

00:30:56.120 They don't get it.

00:30:57.000 yeah dude you're coping no i'm not i'm not because how many stories have you seen of men

00:31:03.140 men staying at home playing video games because they don't have the option wait wait you know what

00:31:08.840 a lot of men are becoming perfectly fine with it and they're disengaged they're not perfectly fine

00:31:14.960 they are they have to be here's the here's what i'm not hoping here's the the problem is then

00:31:22.320 they get i'm mentored they get a little young under 30 for freaking seven years i i know these

00:31:28.340 guys do you have no but they get a little female attention and they always fold um i learned roulette

00:31:33.820 wheel i learned from my uncles and my cousins were destroyed by bad marriages um do you don't

00:31:39.580 you think the average man has many other options not really sadly enough but this is a great back

00:31:46.540 and forth i'm very entertained by this so thank you guys um i'm gonna bring up reclaim your throne

00:31:52.300 and i'm also gonna bring up osmosis um but osmosis you had the youtube in the background

00:31:58.560 playing last time i tried to bring you up so make sure you turn it off no it's still going

00:32:04.120 okay um yeah i need you to mute whatever you got going on um then i want to bring jay oh i don't

00:32:13.480 see anybody there hey what's up i'm i'm here i just don't have a picture okay that's fine

00:32:18.340 okay guys so the question today i don't know if you heard my monologue but i i'm kind of going

00:32:25.840 back and forth on what i think so i was hoping to bring people on to debate it out who is the

00:32:31.920 buyer when it comes to marriage is it men or women um we could argue there's one argument that's been

00:32:39.820 said that men are the buyers because they are the ones that propose the other argument is that men

00:32:46.580 are so sex starved and there's so many simps that women are the buyers i'm condensing them

00:32:52.580 but give your thoughts and if you guys want to we do need to let people finish their arguments so if

00:32:57.460 you first like 10 15 seconds someone's talking let them let them finish if they don't land the plane

00:33:04.100 you guys feel free to go back and forth a little bit about your thoughts but reclaim why don't you

00:33:08.580 go first okay uh so i like to kind of think of it in real estate terms and i think of it as like a

00:33:15.860 buyer's market and a seller's market and the genders can interchange between those so uh what

00:33:23.220 i mean by that is essentially if the leverage is in women's hands uh as far as society goes

00:33:32.020 like it is now then i believe the women are you know essentially the buyers because they're

00:33:39.620 actually being more picky and it's a buyer's market so uh you know they are able to select

00:33:46.420 what they want um when it comes to maybe not necessarily what they want but uh they are able

00:33:54.020 to select a man at the end of the day and they're able to land somewhere whereas like if it was

00:34:00.980 a seller's market then the man could pretty much get whatever type of girl that he likes and

00:34:07.860 And honestly, that's not happening right now.

00:34:10.640 So I think the leverage is in women's hands with marriage and with divorce.

00:34:16.120 So it kind of allows them to be more picky and more choosy.

00:34:21.140 And they're able to kind of navigate the dating market a little easier when it comes to matching up with somebody.

00:34:29.740 Now, that doesn't mean that they're going to stay with them or whatnot.

00:34:33.060 But I think just the influx of options that women have, there's plenty of guys willing to, you know, propose to her and marry her, even if they're not necessarily the guy that she wants.

00:34:47.200 She's able to land somewhere and still get a good deal.

00:34:52.200 Great. Doug, MPA, because you had you were kind of more on the other side.

00:34:57.320 So what do you think about that?

00:34:58.500 Women cannot get married unless a man proposes first. There are plenty of women in situationships. All we hear in the black communities, situationships, no labels, no labels. The two biggest superpowers a man has is his ability to walk away and his ability to determine who his girlfriend, fiance, and wife is.

00:35:18.380 the first thing women do will try to take those two powers away from you men are waking up there

00:35:24.460 are women especially in my age in their 40s my 40s and 30s who who who they will they may settle

00:35:33.420 for a guy but the men they want will not propose to them men have and one second look like i said

00:35:41.140 earlier i did some of the most powerful women surgeons doctors lawyers and they can't get a

00:35:47.400 to marry them feminists biggest conundrum right now is oh women can do anything anything a man

00:35:54.440 can do even better but they can't get a man to marry them men have to settle but women have to

00:36:00.040 settle too but women cannot get married without a man initiating it okay so men are the buyer okay

00:36:08.520 do you have any rebuttal to that and then i'll let the next person go but i just i thought

00:36:12.360 Yeah. So when it comes to what he's saying, as far as women can't get married unless a man proposes.

00:36:22.200 Yeah, that's true. But the reality is any man is willing to propose nowadays.

00:36:26.980 Like men are giving up their commitment a lot easier.

00:36:30.540 Not only are they giving up their commitment, but they're also giving up their money a lot easier.

00:36:34.480 We have a simp culture. So, you know, that's where you'll see guys in the comments like, yeah, I'll empty my bank account out for you.

00:36:41.820 or I'll do this for you. So these guys are pretty much acquiescing to what women want. That's why

00:36:48.380 they're able to monetize their beauty, you know, in such a way that, I mean, we've never seen

00:36:55.520 before. And then them also having control of, or at least as, you know, a slight degree more of

00:37:02.880 control of how they market themselves online. You know, I just think that it's a lot easier for

00:37:10.420 these women maybe they may not get the perfect guy that they want but like i said they'll always

00:37:16.620 be able to land on their feet there will always be a simp waiting at the end of the line and you

00:37:21.680 know she might be dating the chad guy and and you know he might have his shit together and she might

00:37:26.880 want him to commit and and he may not commit but she could still get with a guy who's less

00:37:33.600 attractive who got the same amount of money but he's willing to commit so um and then she's still

00:37:39.440 going to, you know, get laid by the Chad guy anyway during the marriage. So it's like they're

00:37:44.580 able to have their cake and eat it too. And, you know, you might see this epidemic of women

00:37:51.140 not getting married more. And honestly, that's because they're making the choice to in their

00:37:56.220 youth. Now in their older age, they might want to settle down for financial reasons. But if they

00:38:01.920 could still get the same attention from men in their older age, as they did in their 20s,

00:38:08.400 they wouldn't want to settle down exactly um i'm gonna let doug mpa you can i'll give you a

00:38:16.620 rebuttal to that if you have anything you want to add i mean otherwise i'm gonna go to the next

00:38:22.040 person go ahead you know you know we came with thrown he's making good observations about the

00:38:28.940 market and i can't even yes women will want to settle down later yes she she's gonna have to

00:38:35.800 settle but like it just still doesn't get past the point that like men have to in fact it's even

00:38:41.500 worse for single mothers single step daddy season is over more men are not are leaving single

00:38:49.180 mothers alone and then women will will find a simp to marry divorce him eight years later and

00:38:55.680 then be single and be trying to get married again this is really screwed the point is women are

00:39:03.320 always going to meet the barrier of

00:39:05.260 giving of the man

00:39:07.420 that they want having to

00:39:09.200 propose to them to be that man's wife

00:39:11.320 if a man doesn't do it she can't

00:39:13.240 be that

00:39:13.620 I just think if he doesn't

00:39:17.120 someone else will

00:39:18.100 there's always another

00:39:21.060 simp

00:39:21.760 there's always another simp out there

00:39:24.720 like

00:39:25.160 it's not like one simp exists for that

00:39:29.100 girl like let me put it like this

00:39:30.660 an ugly girl has as many

00:39:32.800 options as like a leonardo dicaprio guy has in terms of just guys to get laid with

00:39:40.080 yeah how come we keep on doing this thing here's and here's hard and i'm not saying that y'all are

00:39:45.940 coping necessarily i mean kind of i guess i am um why do we keep saying well she can't get married

00:39:51.440 by the guy that she wants we don't say that about the guy wait wait wait we don't yeah well the

00:39:59.620 other the other thing is like who women want is different every day it's like she could get the

00:40:05.080 guy she wants and then she won't want him next year you know yeah right but i think women only

00:40:10.440 get the uh the only time that i'm gonna let sorry i did it i did interrupt him so i'm gonna let him

00:40:15.280 finish i was gonna say just real quick only time the guy is the girl is with a guy that like um

00:40:22.280 is the guy is the guy she truly ever wanted is when like the guy dies or whatever and he's no

00:40:28.040 longer there you look at Jada and Tupac Tupac's the example because Tupac is not dead every guy

00:40:38.120 that like falls into the category of the woman's dream girl is dead guys are so much funnier than

00:40:44.780 women yeah he got it man he got it good job I'm sorry um what was that Nick in the corner or no

00:40:51.220 who's in the I need to the screen oh BPJ yeah sorry I'll let you finish all good I was just

00:40:57.040 gonna say we always go when we're talking about this whole okay who has more leverage who's a

00:41:01.660 buyer to seller we always say for the women they they're not marrying the men that they want but

00:41:06.440 what about the man if you take your average man your average man does not have any options he

00:41:14.280 doesn't wait wait wait wait okay okay go ahead what was you gonna let up let up easier and

00:41:20.600 And when they, like, when they get a woman that's cooler in terms of, like, personality, the looks a little bit can go a little bit.

00:41:31.080 Like, if a person is, like, a 7.5, but she's, like, a really cool chick, a lot of guys will take that over.

00:41:38.300 Right, that's what, yeah, so let me, so.

00:41:39.740 That's a great headache the entire time.

00:41:41.400 Right, so just real quick.

00:41:42.340 Hey, you got to let them finish, okay?

00:41:44.400 Yeah, so just really quick.

00:41:45.720 So what we often do is we say, okay, the woman, she can't get with the man if she wants.

00:41:51.400 But again, we forget about the average man.

00:41:53.120 The average man, you guys, don't have any options.

00:41:56.660 Your average man has to fight for dates, fight for numbers, fight for whatever scraps of female attention, whatever it is that he can get.

00:42:06.920 Sometimes we forget that in this conversation, right?

00:42:09.180 So, ultimately, between your average man and your average woman, and you put them together, the woman absolutely, without question, has the upper hand.

00:42:22.720 The man has the ability to not propose even the average guy.

00:42:26.420 Let me just land.

00:42:27.160 Let me land.

00:42:27.880 More times than not, the woman is looking at him like, hmm, can I possibly do better?

00:42:34.420 She is assessing his offer.

00:42:36.700 What's weird about this analogy is you guys keep saying, well, without the initiating, there wouldn't be like, well, you can say the same about it, again, an advertiser, again, buyer and seller.

00:42:47.980 So ultimately, I think he left or somebody left. So ultimately, the women are assessing the options that they have on the table and they're seeing, hmm, between these men, who could I get into a relationship with?

00:43:01.260 Most women walk around the reason why they're so entitled, the reason why they're so overconfident, because they know no matter what they do, they will always have good men to be in relationships with.

00:43:12.180 The same cannot be said if you're an average man.

00:43:14.100 And I'll land right there.

00:43:15.120 My aunt got married at 50, two got like.

00:43:18.060 Yeah.

00:43:19.260 Yeah.

00:43:19.720 I mean.

00:43:21.000 Sorry.

00:43:21.700 I'm going to read the super chat that you can go.

00:43:24.080 Men are content without marriage.

00:43:25.880 Men live in bliss, dating a new woman every three months.

00:43:29.540 hence the baby daddy epidemic women require marriage to be happy they require it to be

00:43:34.740 fulfilled it's the status the lifestyle and the urge to compare it themselves that drives this

00:43:40.560 need i used to think that but i i don't i think women are just unhappy regardless so they could

00:43:47.360 be married they could have like it's just if they're unhappy it'll be regardless but go ahead

00:43:52.400 reclaim yeah so i like to think of it in terms of who likes who more and in my opinion it's obvious

00:43:58.740 that men like women more in today's society. In relationship context, anybody who's in a

00:44:05.740 relationship, especially a lot of men nowadays, you don't really see a lot of men leading these

00:44:12.880 relationships. You see a lot of men deferring to their wives. Even if they're a super masculine guy,

00:44:17.640 they're still deferring to their wives. And you'll see these big time CEOs who built business and

00:44:23.720 all this kind of stuff. And then they'll give a speech deferring to their wife, say, yeah,

00:44:27.200 I wouldn't be anything. And this woman is the one who kept me in line and made sure that I

00:44:31.160 did this and did that. Even if it's not true, they're still going to defer to the wife. So,

00:44:37.760 I mean, you can just see it in the way that men behave in society and the way that women are able

00:44:42.500 to monetize their sexuality and their beauty. You can see who likes who more. And it's obvious that

00:44:49.440 men like women more in today's society. I mean, we have so many examples like the man and the bear

00:44:55.760 or you know different examples like this so you know you have to think about it from that context

00:45:02.400 and then when you think about it like that that's why you know in the red vitamin we say yo you know

00:45:07.360 the the woman has to like the man more for the relationship to actually work because if the man

00:45:12.800 likes the woman more then you know she's going to look down upon him because she's like oh well i

00:45:19.600 mean you're you're over here sipping over me and this is what just guys just do so you have to be

00:45:25.900 in a that's why you know the red vitamin guys are able to sustain relationships longer if they want

00:45:33.420 to because they're making it so that the woman likes them more versus uh the man liking the

00:45:40.640 woman more in the relationship and in today's society in most relationships uh the man definitely

00:45:46.820 likes the women more i mean growing up it was the men who were ready to settle down and start

00:45:51.540 families earlier than the women uh and i mean and that's just what i've observed i have um so we

00:46:00.100 have two new panelists welcome to the show sean and welcome leonarda thanks for coming today

00:46:06.660 thanks thanks for having me on i agree with who who was it that was just talking oh that was

00:46:13.960 reclaim go ahead yeah he's he's pretty much on the money on that he's correct uh you do you do

00:46:21.560 have to get the woman to like you more because otherwise she's gonna think you're a simp and

00:46:26.040 she's gonna disrespect you i know because i'm said woman so so what do you think about who do

00:46:34.360 you think's in control of marriage is is it um who are the buyers in the current dating market

00:46:40.920 men or women when it comes to marriage oh that is a tough that's tough i think it depends on

00:46:49.800 the men and it depends on the women you know uh women are doing this thing right now where they

00:46:55.720 really think they don't need a man well they're saying they don't need a man so i think right now

00:47:02.440 women have been psychologized against their own instincts and their own nature and they're doing

00:47:09.720 things that if if you could get them to like be unbrainwashed for a second they would admit is

00:47:17.480 the opposite of what they want they would admit that what they really want is somebody to wife

00:47:23.320 them up for them to be secure for them to have kids that whole thing to not go to work i don't

00:47:29.800 think so we aborted a third of gen z yeah that's but that's that's that's proof of what i'm saying

00:47:36.280 when has it ever been the case that women mothers would kill their own children over and above

00:47:44.920 themselves i mean when they got freedom when they got the freedom to make the choice that they wanted

00:47:49.640 to do yeah they found they found like a hundred babies and like under a nun um a nunnery in

00:47:56.600 ireland yep yeah this is what they want to do wait wait wait hold on are you guys talking about

00:48:02.280 the canada thing or the ireland thing well i mean they found bait they found bones in bathhouses

00:48:07.560 in greece okay so women are always killing their kids always even in like the 1800s it wasn't

00:48:16.040 abnormal i don't think it's a coincidence the infant mortality rate is really similar to the

00:48:21.400 abortion rate today you read the super chat bro yeah so women are the are the sellers this is a

00:48:27.160 straight option to buy contract the woman gives the man the exclusive right dating but not the

00:48:33.560 obligation to purchase wipe up for a specified price within a set time thank you zachary thank

00:48:39.720 you very much i know sorry thank you but sorry yeah um i just i don't know i always hear that

00:48:47.160 women are brainwashed i don't think so i think it's like yeah you gotta take accountability for

00:48:51.960 the choices you make so i think no i'm gonna disagree wholeheartedly because because i come

00:48:58.840 from you know seeing the women of like so i'm like a first generation american but last generations

00:49:05.880 albanians were like in the 1800s because they just didn't they were back in that time period

00:49:11.800 based on culture and everything and you didn't have this kind of behavior with women towards

00:49:17.400 their children when you did that person would stand out as contrary to the norm and everybody

00:49:25.400 would really shun that person like wow they're just a horrible mother like this isn't the norm

00:49:30.600 so fast forward to where we are with modern times which i think everybody's brainwashed

00:49:37.220 actually right now both men and women they just have different uh programming women now

00:49:44.220 have some retarded idea that liberation means selling yourself into sex slavery or giving it

00:49:56.040 away for nothing and being like, I'm free. That's a complete antithesis. Any woman who had any sense

00:50:06.200 about the way the sexual marketplace works would never do that. That's like having a brand new car

00:50:13.880 and letting 10 people drive it

00:50:16.660 without having to do anything

00:50:18.380 except fill the gas

00:50:19.740 and then looking for a buyer.

00:50:22.960 Totally opposite.

00:50:24.380 Go ahead, Reclaim.

00:50:25.360 What's your rebuttal?

00:50:26.520 And then Sean, I'm going to let Reclaim go

00:50:28.360 and then Sean, I'll have you go.

00:50:29.400 I just think the default programming for women

00:50:31.880 is prostitution.

00:50:34.120 Exchange sex exchange.

00:50:36.200 Yeah, I agree.

00:50:38.340 Well, I come from a totally different,

00:50:42.000 I guess, culture of women.

00:50:43.560 i think women there's no incentive for women to be honest about being whores so i think it's really

00:50:48.440 easy to like for women to say oh we were so different but it's like you guys know they

00:50:52.920 didn't have any social media listen when you live in the village everybody knew what you were doing

00:51:03.160 everybody knew who the whores were yeah hold on go ahead go ahead yeah but the but the average

00:51:08.520 but the problem is as soon as they got smartphones and they got the opportunity they said let us be

00:51:12.840 whores i don't that ain't the problem yeah go sean go ahead no i was gonna say that ain't the

00:51:19.020 problem because i mean i get it that's how you feel that's cool but chastity belts existed for

00:51:24.940 a reason if girls were keeping the coochie locked up then they wouldn't have had to create the

00:51:29.240 technology to put a lock on the girl's box in order to make sure that didn't happen so that's

00:51:35.600 cap now also to what i would say to the thing the buyer and seller it depends because you know

00:51:41.520 sometimes the market is a seller market and sometimes it's a buyer's market. But what I

00:51:45.540 would say is that women have a lot of unattractive deals, a lot of unattractive deals. They determine

00:51:53.500 if it's attractive or unattractive. Now, men have a little bit of unattractive deals. And so the

00:52:00.400 demand is in their favor, of course. So they have a more demand. And I would say if we had to call

00:52:05.700 somebody a buyer and a seller, I would say men are the sellers. And they're not in the power

00:52:11.080 position. It's a buyer's market. They're in the cellars because men sell themselves. They say,

00:52:16.120 hey, here's my resume. Here's my profile. Most of the time, women say, I am the table, period.

00:52:22.060 So they don't make a much of a listing of what they provide in the marketplace. Men come and say,

00:52:27.580 hey, I work for Google. I have an equity compensation plan. Hey, I go to the gym. I'm

00:52:32.380 a Christian. And so most men, they put down their listing. They say they market themselves and then

00:52:38.740 they try to get the partner so i would say the deal and the terms favor women mostly and we see

00:52:44.340 that throughout society hence why even men when they win and they get a deal they say happy wife

00:52:48.900 happy life and so they always you know just concede to the women so yes women are in the power

00:52:56.200 now i get what you were saying doug so shout out to you you look like hell no i ain't signing a

00:53:02.180 deal yeah you're just a rare man all right most men are one blowjob away from a plantation

00:53:07.020 it's true i you know what i i deal with a lot of people that talk shit on the internet

00:53:16.760 you know what i mean and i've seen them all fold

00:53:19.220 i've seen so many you know so it doesn't really like you said the guys are just like well they've

00:53:27.760 just been tricked by reptilians and the illuminati no they haven't women haven't been tricked by the

00:53:33.480 reptilians the illuminati and the new world order is they are the new world order they are the

00:53:38.740 reptilians they're going to factory default hold on hold on hold on they're going to factory

00:53:44.900 hold on hold on bro go ahead oh women just love being whores and they tell you this it's not

00:53:51.660 i think the worst thing that like we do is we don't believe women like when they'll do only

00:53:56.380 fans i've interviewed a lot of these women uh they're not traumatized they're not broken most

00:54:01.440 of them come from two parent homes to be honest they just love having sex on camera it's the

00:54:05.980 excitement and the thrill of like being in front of the camera yeah i think girls who do only fans

00:54:13.100 like being whores yeah that's called the selective sample size like 100 percent yeah it's not just

00:54:20.200 the girls who do only 10 percent of girls between 18 and 20 i mean i mean let's do an os yeah and

00:54:26.220 Let's be real.

00:54:27.060 Like who here was going to be a virgin on their wedding day?

00:54:30.300 None of us.

00:54:31.360 Okay.

00:54:32.280 He's miscategorizing.

00:54:33.520 It's not just the girls on OnlyFans.

00:54:35.260 Here's what most guys understand who actually date women.

00:54:38.680 Most women that you come across that you date,

00:54:41.240 and especially if they're like a six and above,

00:54:43.680 more than likely they have footage of them having sex on a Chad or Tyrone's phone.

00:54:49.760 Guaranteed.

00:54:50.400 That's 100% true.

00:54:52.320 100% true.

00:54:53.180 No, listen.

00:54:54.300 Listen.

00:54:54.760 Most of these women.

00:54:55.880 Hold on.

00:54:56.220 Most of these women, they have, especially if they're over the age of 25, 26, 27, they have footage, whether it's an ex-boyfriend, whether it's a guy that they were sleeping with on occasion.

00:55:08.120 I would say the majority of them, and what happens with women who have OnlyFans, want to know why a lot of women get OnlyFans?

00:55:16.820 Because they look at all their sex videos and it's like, hey, I have all these sex videos that are old.

00:55:21.740 I might as well make money off of them.

00:55:22.740 Right.

00:55:22.920 people calling me a hoe anyway when i post a bikini pic so i might as well i just don't i don't see

00:55:29.740 women going to college and being brainwashed i see them yay i can't wait to be a whore you know

00:55:34.760 what i mean it's like they might not like the consequences boring but i just yeah they're there

00:55:39.720 to have fun yeah it's the consequences of being judged that they don't like the judgment but if

00:55:46.260 it were up to them and they weren't judged for the actions they were making in the whoredom

00:55:53.480 lifestyle, then they would enjoy it just fine and there wouldn't be any issue. This is why you see

00:56:00.120 30% of women on college campuses on sugar daddy dating sites like Seeking Arrangement. They're

00:56:06.640 looking for that type of quick, easy money hookup, exchange beauty or sex or purity or whatever you

00:56:14.860 want to call it for goods and services and i think you guys have been dealing with some real

00:56:21.300 bottom of the barrel women no these are college educated women i just gave you the statistics

00:56:27.860 doesn't mean shit man people are coming out with degrees about how smells are racist college

00:56:34.980 doesn't mean crap yeah but i mean i've interviewed i've interviewed i've interviewed a thousand

00:56:43.660 and women from tradition have you i've interviewed women from china germany brazil africa nigeria

00:56:52.280 like i i've done i've done small town america i've gone to like small town america done interviews

00:56:59.440 there the answers are the same they all want to go to college they all get married after the age

00:57:03.620 of 25 and even the women that signal purity so they might say oh i am pure we didn't do that they

00:57:09.280 all got married after 25 if you were pure you would have you would have married at 21 but you

00:57:13.960 didn't so it's like well i didn't i didn't you know lose my virginity until i was 25 and that

00:57:21.380 was to my husband so you're wrong well yeah but that's not a 1997 yep 1997 but i think you guys

00:57:31.140 are dealing with some real bottom of the barrel hose no and you're out here uh even the virgins

00:57:36.580 they always they always even the virgins they always do oral or something it's like a get out

00:57:41.940 of jail free card you can catch chlamydia and i'm not saying you but like in general it's like

00:57:46.340 if you really ask them the questions about if they're virgins they usually got fingered they

00:57:50.740 usually did oil they usually did other stuff okay this wasn't going on this was not going on

00:57:57.940 on this massive scale before the advent of feminism and then this push yeah that's

00:58:05.780 because men had that's because men had a were ruling over women with an iron fist like it was

00:58:11.540 you couldn't do that well it's not you got it there were rules over them to keep them from

00:58:20.340 being whores is that what you're saying yes they had the authority and they had so all right so

00:58:26.820 this goes back to you guys it's all your fault now well yeah men gave them the the the freedom

00:58:35.140 it was but here's what you in the political influence um well you guys could just start

00:58:39.060 slapping again we need one here's what you can't do one mike please one mike i'm gonna i'm gonna

00:58:44.100 go down to i'm gonna go down go ahead i just i just dropped a couple of people so the conversation

00:58:51.780 flowed a little better do you have a son though um whatever your name is leonardo no no no i don't

00:58:59.460 okay so you don't have no kids nope well i mean if you ask like a lot of these women who got married

00:59:07.220 you know 20 years ago um i guarantee you have sons let them get a little older and then ask

00:59:14.260 your sons how dating is and i guarantee they're gonna tell you i have a i have a younger brother

00:59:19.620 that i and i know he he tells me what it's like it's it is rough out there for them but i do i

00:59:24.500 I 100% think, I think we're living in a feminist tyranny

00:59:31.560 where women are given every fucking privilege,

00:59:36.940 no responsibility.

00:59:38.560 They are simultaneously boss bitches,

00:59:41.200 but also can't be held accountable for anything.

00:59:44.320 Nothing's ever their fault.

00:59:45.520 So we're in a total feminist tyranny.

00:59:48.060 So the pendulum has swung to the max on the other side.

00:59:53.080 and i think that's completely unhealthy but in a way you're doing this you're doing the same thing

00:59:58.120 when you're saying that women are brainwashed instead of holding them accountable for what we

01:00:01.960 choose yeah you're taking away somebody's brainwashed i still that doesn't to me that

01:00:07.480 doesn't let people off the hook because i think it's our job to wake up from that i

01:00:12.120 okay do i think some women just like being whores sure absolutely do i think it would be this

01:00:17.800 widespread epidemic i think a lot of people in general would do whatever they can get away with

01:00:25.000 both men and women yeah but imagine imagine if you had a guy and you said you were brainwashed

01:00:30.440 into stealing you were brainwashed into being a pedo like it's it's a double standard when women

01:00:35.560 i think you can be brainwashed into being gay so there's that yeah but you ain't giving them

01:00:41.880 no grace in the dating market though and here's the thing like when it comes to you know women

01:00:49.080 making choices they're never held accountable and in your your you you were trying to say oh well

01:00:55.320 you're you're talking the bottom of the barrel women no we're not like like pearl says she's

01:01:00.840 talked to thousands of women and then we're experiencing you know thousands of women if you

01:01:06.840 go outside you know every once in a while we're experiencing that and if you're in the dating

01:01:10.920 market you're seeing the same trends go on and on this is why this space has gotten so big is

01:01:17.820 because we've been seeing the same trends over and over again and it's not with bottom of the

01:01:22.560 barrel women it's with women who have jobs good jobs women who have degrees women who come from

01:01:28.920 two-parent homes women who come from the church you know it's it's almost like the word where'd

01:01:34.020 you find them argument like where'd you find them where are you finding these girls um outside

01:01:39.040 you know what's crazy my grandma my grandma who's one of uh she had nine kids and i asked her because

01:01:46.740 she kind of lived through all the she died but before she did i asked her like why she thought

01:01:50.960 everyone got divorced and she was from small town middle of nowhere and she said all the women

01:01:56.040 wanted to sleep around because birth control and they could so the birth she said she saw a

01:02:00.580 difference like after birth control got invented because they got the ability to be whores basically

01:02:05.280 and half of them even the women of that age group like my grandparents were separated when they died

01:02:10.700 like most of them were separated um when like they passed away like 80 like i think that she

01:02:17.880 would have been in like the 80 year old group or 90 if she was still alive um roulette hill here's

01:02:23.600 a super chat from an average man oh roulette thank you for the hundred dollar super chat

01:02:28.700 here's a super chat from an average man with no options well you know somebody's gotta be it

01:02:34.760 the other ones too please i think i read them but i'm not sure are you sure i read the 100 and the

01:02:42.880 50 one was there another one yeah oh they're saying social engineering brainwashing isn't real

01:02:49.920 is the denial that we can effectively improve our culture it's defeatist and truly a failing

01:02:55.320 ideology men should not accept it and fight to change society back we have the real power i don't

01:03:01.380 think men have any power to be honest um you could argue that as a collective they do but like

01:03:07.780 if uh you know if if they did what she said which is start slapping women then they go to jail

01:03:13.080 so like what power yeah i was being facetious i know i know i know you're i know you're i know

01:03:17.460 you're kidding i'm just using it as an example yeah i mean there there are no reins on women

01:03:21.940 nowadays like there's no reins on them so you can't really reel them back in and people might

01:03:27.840 make the excuse of brainwashing, but in this day and age, in 2025, you choose what you consume.

01:03:35.220 So even if you had the least strict parents coming up, I mean, what are you really getting

01:03:42.400 exposed to? Like you're choosing what you consume going up and you gravitate to what you're

01:03:48.060 attracted to. So ultimately, these women are making their own choices based off of where

01:03:55.060 society is where other women are and then what their heart desires are and it just so happens

01:03:59.700 that a majority of these women out here have the same desires but hold on have you guys have you

01:04:07.220 guys had casual affairs and hookups and stuff the men in here of course yeah we're men though

01:04:18.900 this means i want to i want to take a second i want to read i'm i'm going to read a super chat

01:04:24.020 and then you can go social engineering is real brainwashing thank you eric prez finish your

01:04:28.260 statement go ahead so you are out there you know defiling some other guy's woman right so you guys

01:04:36.420 want to talk about collective action all right the women are and they're never going to stop being

01:04:41.620 right okay why don't all the men decide hey we're going to stop each other's future wives

01:04:47.460 and let these have to deal with just getting one husband and that's it why don't

01:04:52.260 we are you religious they're gonna they're gonna because these women are gonna somebody anyway

01:04:56.900 if it's not there's not enough men to match the women there's not going to match the women

01:05:05.460 they'll deal with the dogs horses robo toys they'll get whatever they want to get at the end

01:05:10.420 of the day majority of the store is filled with women toys what i would say guys is look i've

01:05:16.100 been a chad roan okay and guess what i still live as a chad roan but what i'm going to tell you is

01:05:21.460 first of all my phone is not filled with anything it's their phones that are filled with it they

01:05:26.780 want to do the recordings ask cassie how that worked out did he didn't have anything cassie

01:05:31.780 had all the evidence on video record so at the end of the day women are free ain't nobody brainwashed

01:05:37.980 out here all right people change what they want and they desire if you think that it was good back

01:05:43.840 in the days i always say eve was the original feminist she decided to get off the program from

01:05:50.260 day one so you gotta call god a simp because he created a perfect word for him and she still

01:05:56.240 rejected it so at the end of the day people choose what they want it's not that complicated guys

01:06:03.360 and then women just have a massive amount of control in the culture and it is what it is

01:06:09.440 yeah and live your life don't like do do what doug does what how do you say w dpa like what

01:06:17.600 would doug do you know what i'm saying like don't sign the deal and then you'll you should be fine

01:06:24.760 but you'll still get shannon sharp in civil court cases so that is the new divorce shout out to cga

01:06:30.660 yeah that's why you got to have the consent forms the ndas because shannon sharp tried to get her

01:06:37.420 to sign an nda she refused so you just got to let that one go that's a fish that you caught you got

01:06:41.780 to throw back in the water because if she's not on your program that that's why he got in that

01:06:47.460 situation to begin with because he was going to have her sign the nda if you read the the the

01:06:52.500 suit but she didn't want to do it and he still dealt with her anyway and one of the best red

01:07:00.100 pill sayings i've ever heard is women rewrote the social contract and the intersexual dynamics

01:07:06.480 between men and women in the 20th century and the 21st century is going to be men responding to it

01:07:12.180 women have always been ahead socially men we are reactive women are proactive when it comes to

01:07:18.580 social dynamics and women don't like how men are responding to the rules they wrote men were

01:07:24.840 perfectly fine with knocking on your door and asking your dad if we could take the girl out on

01:07:30.800 a date we're perfectly fine for waiting we're perfectly fine with waiting until sex waiting

01:07:35.400 until marriage for sex women called all that patriarchy and rewrote all the rules and now

01:07:41.520 men are responding and and women in society don't like it so so i'm gonna let jackson go welcome to

01:07:48.860 the show jackson uh what is your thought on the topic who are the buyers in the current dating

01:07:54.080 market men or women or if you have a thought on something one of the other panelists said in the

01:07:58.560 last few minutes you're welcome to comment on that too gotcha well i actually called in about

01:08:02.700 the buyer's question um and what what's interesting i'll just i'll just start off so that i can land

01:08:09.220 the plane easily more easily with my position i think women are the buyers and i i think it's very

01:08:15.040 interesting and i was gonna uh ask ask for clarification or explanation from doug because

01:08:21.120 doug seems to think that proposing makes men the buyers i think we might view what proposing is

01:08:28.700 slightly differently because to me that sounds like more of a sales pitch to i've always looked

01:08:34.320 at proposing as being like, like selling, right? Like I may make you an offer in the same way. And

01:08:40.600 I know, I understand what Doug is saying about how women can only get married if men propose,

01:08:46.280 but that the thing is, I can only buy a car that I qualify for, right? I can only get a car that

01:08:53.440 I have a good enough credit score with. I can't get a discontinued product or something like that.

01:08:57.960 i'm still the buyer right i'll clarify so when a woman is putting on makeup getting plastic surgery

01:09:05.160 what is a woman doing she's selling herself right number one number one um if you buy

01:09:13.400 a bad car and you didn't do your research or or a bad product right people don't feel sorry for

01:09:20.520 you because you should have did your did your research to not get stuck with a bad product

01:09:25.960 it's your fault and also if you've been divorced like me if something happens and and and it's the

01:09:32.520 man's fault that the marriage ended it's the man's fault if something happens and it's the woman's

01:09:37.160 fault it's the man's fault with people will always ask the man where what did you do wrong how did it

01:09:43.880 go wrong because when you buy a car you are legally and ultimately responsible for that car that's why

01:09:50.120 the man is the buyer because because because of the amount of responsibility placed upon him

01:09:55.240 with the marriage proposal and the actual marriage well actually i think that that analogy

01:10:01.720 to me seems to actually underscore what i'm saying because you know we have sayings like

01:10:06.440 the customer is always right the customer is definitely not always if you've ever worked it

01:10:11.240 you know how false that saying is but that's that's the i think that uh you know companies

01:10:18.280 and people tend to sympathize more with customers than they do sellers um now i understand it's not

01:10:24.280 i don't think you can have an absolutely perfect airtight analogy with buyers and sellers because

01:10:29.960 you're right there are things that women do like put on makeup etc but i mean sell themselves sure

01:10:37.080 sure to sell themselves so i wouldn't say it's purely either direction but i think it leans

01:10:42.600 heavily towards men being the sellers because what we have to do to get a woman even a even

01:10:47.640 a below average woman even a woman that's slightly below average is quite a bit harder than putting

01:10:53.080 on makeup you know we have to be in the gym different things though you can get a woman not

01:10:57.620 marry her well you so you what what do you mean half the time the woman doesn't even want to marry

01:11:05.540 the guy yeah exactly i would say that's actually more common that marriage i would say most guys

01:11:12.380 i'd say most guys would marry their high school girlfriends or their college girlfriends but

01:11:18.320 They want to trade up. They want to go to a big city and trade up.

01:11:22.200 They want to go to like, they're just going to keep going, maybe celebrities, whatever.

01:11:27.100 Yeah. Marriage for women is a milestone in today's day and age.

01:11:30.560 It's just a checkbox for something that they say, oh, yeah, I was married before.

01:11:35.560 It's something that validates their ego, like we were talking about yesterday.

01:11:42.360 I always say, though, we're in the great experiment when it comes to women.

01:11:45.880 women want to try on stem if they want to try on male-dominated jobs if they want to try on being

01:11:51.720 a doctor and a lawyer and if they don't like it they reserve the right to change their minds

01:11:55.560 and marriage is like that too women want to try on marriage you know what how is it and they

01:12:01.080 reserve the right to change their minds at any given time but still once again that sounds a lot

01:12:06.360 more like a buyer than a seller you can't get married unless a man initiates it a man has to

01:12:12.280 propose the thing is i think if it was i think if it was harder for women to get proposals but i

01:12:20.040 don't think it's that like i think most women have men in the friend zone or men they've dated that

01:12:25.240 would have proposed a hundred percent i know i know someone i know someone recently that ended

01:12:32.360 an engagement because he asked her to like post that to not post something on instagram

01:12:38.120 women do you think because we always talk about the women who have who have um who have turned

01:12:54.040 down proposals from men but if you're if you're an attractive woman past the age of what look at

01:13:01.960 sadia khan why sadia khan women like her is she married i don't women like because she wants to

01:13:10.440 be so how many how many of those women have been side chicks to a guy that she wish would propose

01:13:17.800 to her or have been in situationships it goes it goes both ways if you're a somewhat if you're an

01:13:23.320 average or an attractive woman and you've reached a certain age you've been with guys that you want

01:13:28.840 to marry or have commitment from and they haven't committed to you just like how men have proposed

01:13:35.320 to these women yeah um but the bottom line is these women are still out here because a man

01:13:40.600 hasn't bought them and taken them off the market yet no but i i still think it's because i think

01:13:45.400 they're out they're out there because they don't want to be married yes another thing about like

01:13:53.720 if women like if women wanted to be married they'd hit the gym and have a low body fat percentage

01:13:58.840 know if women wanted to be married their schedules would be clear like for them go ahead go ahead

01:14:05.640 the thing is they want to be married to a higher level guy than what's proposing to them and

01:14:12.360 whatever is proposing to them is not a high enough level because of whatever whatever they're seeing

01:14:18.040 on tv and thinking celebrities are it or whatever which is all stupid crap i don't do i do think i

01:14:26.120 do think this is a huge there's you know you guys can say sit here and point fingers and i'm not

01:14:32.200 by the way me saying this stuff is not letting women off the hook because i don't think you can

01:14:36.920 be a 100 adult human being and not take full responsibility for your life like you have to

01:14:43.720 recognize the challenges you're in but you also but you also have to make a choice to make your

01:14:49.480 life different you know yeah i just i don't i don't think i don't think women i don't i don't

01:14:56.360 i don't think young women though that they're saying they want to be married they want to go

01:15:00.520 to college and party yeah i don't think it's because they're like oh i didn't get a proposal

01:15:05.320 they're like let's go to university of alabama and race let me go ahead let me let me go ahead

01:15:10.600 and say i think that has to do with a incredible cultural psychological propaganda that's all

01:15:19.160 about have fun and you see this all the time i see it all the fucking time retarded older women

01:15:26.280 who have thrown their lives away will see a girl in her early 20s getting engaged and be like oh

01:15:32.040 no girl you don't want to do that you want to have fun which i think is so evil because it's like if

01:15:36.840 you did that and it ruined your life why do you want to ruin somebody else's so that's one thing

01:15:41.880 the issue is culturally we are so far removed from having an objective moral value system that

01:15:48.760 used to be based on western values like greek and roman values and christianity which had certain

01:15:56.360 values that were put forward for people to aspire to and it was objective that hey these were the

01:16:03.640 good things we don't know what any of that is all that's out the window forget about waiting until

01:16:09.880 marriage that's that's not even a value system it's not a value system to to not show yourself

01:16:16.520 naked then you could be whatever pronoun hey are you a cat oh you're a cat there's no objectivity

01:16:22.120 in anything so the when that's all out of whack people are going to make up whatever they want

01:16:28.920 and of course because most people are retarded they're going to pick the base instincts of i

01:16:35.880 want to you know get filled or i want to fill women and i want these status things and it's

01:16:42.200 all because you have no guiding moral principle and humans are evil god told us we're evil

01:16:49.160 that's why he gave us a code to live by okay i don't know what this this girl is talking

01:16:55.080 about to be honest i think she's just yapping and went wait wait wait wait wait who is it

01:17:00.440 hold on um yeah so go ahead i would just say it's not hard for women to get proposed to it's hard

01:17:07.240 for them to get proposed to by the guy they actually want so you know with that being said

01:17:13.640 i just think they are getting offers so many offers every single day i mean just look at

01:17:21.640 the average woman's comment section look at her dms she's getting influx with you know offers

01:17:29.000 presentations for men and a lot of them are commitment offers it's just not the guy that

01:17:34.760 she actually wants and they're waiting out for this you know mythological guy who they created

01:17:42.600 in their mind you know that's why you got the delusion calculator and they're all listing the

01:17:46.760 same things that they want from a man you know it's just something that as a guy you can't really

01:17:55.120 get around in this day and age unless you you know create so much value within yourself but then you

01:18:02.060 got guys who are being led astray by women like sadia khan who are saying oh okay i can turn you

01:18:07.160 to a high value man i can you know find a high value woman for you so uh there's just so many

01:18:12.300 distractions uh not only for men but for women and they're they're basically not making a choice

01:18:21.040 they're they're just living their lives and and having that fun and and going with the grain

01:18:27.440 instead of against it. Jackson, did you want to finish your thought? Go ahead. Yeah, yeah. I just

01:18:32.580 wanted to add, and actually dovetails perfectly with what Reclaim Your Throne was just saying.

01:18:37.660 The other thing about proposals is, although this is rarely done, I'll quote a line from

01:18:43.360 Schoolhouse Rock, the song Mr. Morton is the subject of the sentence, who says women can't

01:18:48.860 propose. I mean, most, here's the truth. I know they very rarely do it, but most women,

01:18:55.280 if they did propose, they'd have a very high acceptance rate for men who wanted to, if they

01:19:00.060 were with the guy, obviously. I'm not talking about some random stranger, obviously. But they

01:19:04.680 actually could do that. They don't usually. And for them, they want, you know, they like the

01:19:10.720 traditional thought of the man pursuing and that kind of thing. But I would say that's just one

01:19:15.700 more way women have the power and are the buyers. We have a new, we have a new caller, Wise Warriors.

01:19:24.640 welcome to the show so who do you think's the buyers and who do you think's the sellers men or

01:19:29.440 women well thanks for having me salute to everybody before i answer um keep doing your thing pearl

01:19:40.640 i appreciate what you do thank you so what is your thoughts on the topic well

01:19:47.360 nowadays it's you know women are very picky so

01:19:56.720 it's it's the angle that i see is that even when they may get the man that they believe

01:20:07.180 that they should have or they're worthy of getting they're gonna find a way to fumble

01:20:14.820 the situation yeah i know then we want more it's like you'll find everything and then

01:20:20.400 the one thing he doesn't have you'll just look for go ahead see so they can check off if it's

01:20:27.660 10 boxes they can check off seven of the main boxes but the three that they don't check off

01:20:35.820 that will get held against them so if they do have the height or the status or the money

01:20:44.240 or the the popularity or the fame you know they might not have the the wardrobe they might not

01:20:53.880 have the shoe size they might not be able to get along with you know the person's mom or dad or

01:21:00.760 they might you know not want a kid or have a kid so it'll be some other boxes that's not as

01:21:08.340 significant as to the boxes that they said they was looking for so now those two or three boxes

01:21:15.000 it stops the the progression down the line yeah you know it's like a it's like a early marriage

01:21:23.940 and a early honeymoon and then when that honeymoon phase is over they looking for another marriage

01:21:30.180 just to go through another honeymoon phase yeah totally so we have a super chat that says women

01:21:36.060 will gladly be hkro hookers then get married and provided for so why the f do we give uh what most

01:21:45.520 of them say any merit the fact is men need to take over well keep dreaming because that's just

01:21:52.400 never gonna happen um so it might happen pearl it might happen if if uh civilization collapses

01:22:00.380 and we're back to the wild and then women

01:22:02.400 are back to needing protection.

01:22:05.080 No, men's power is walking

01:22:06.560 away. That's what men's

01:22:08.600 power is walking away.

01:22:09.640 You're absolutely correct. Men's power is walking away. That's

01:22:12.440 correct.

01:22:13.780 I had an economist on the show

01:22:16.520 and he said by the time

01:22:18.580 things could turn around, I'll be like

01:22:20.540 55 to 60.

01:22:23.020 I mean, it'll happen. I'll just

01:22:24.480 be pretty close to dead or maybe

01:22:26.380 dead.

01:22:26.780 thanks for coming

01:22:31.960 always good to have you man you're awesome

01:22:34.760 I'm just gonna

01:22:38.640 I'm just gonna prepare

01:22:42.920 for my kids to be going

01:22:44.980 to school with other

01:22:46.980 kids that other

01:22:48.420 kids that have only fans

01:22:50.760 with their moms

01:22:52.780 so that'll probably happen

01:22:54.960 so

01:22:56.780 sad enough that is dark i do think bringing back a culture of shame could could work if if shame

01:23:05.760 worked bonnie blue wouldn't exist because even the hookers are shaming her and she's just going

01:23:10.160 harder yeah but she's possessed by a demon so sean shaking his head no i always say that i always

01:23:18.260 say if you go to japan it doesn't work japan has high level of shame a low out of wet birth

01:23:24.780 also divorce is shamed nobody gets divorced but women just decided okay if you're gonna shame me

01:23:31.340 i'm not gonna get married i'm not gonna have kids there you go i mean you shame me you shame me for

01:23:38.940 divorce you shame me for uh having a baby out of wedlock okay got roger that i won't be with men

01:23:45.420 and most japanese women are not with men and their culture has a problem having a birth rate and

01:23:51.260 having people just meet and greet each other so people just choose not to do it then they'll say

01:23:55.980 i'll go to the spa i'll have a cat and i'll live in my apartment and i'm okay with that goodbye

01:24:02.060 i mean that's not why that's going on in japan leonardo just look at us i mean we get shamed

01:24:09.820 all the time for being sexist i think you're racist right i'm not not an insult i just thought

01:24:15.980 you said that it's racist anti-semitic yeah all that like we just everything yeah but it doesn't

01:24:23.980 it doesn't work right we just keep going like if you are aligned with the truth so people call me

01:24:34.780 all that because i say things that are inconvenient for them to hear but i know it's the truth so

01:24:41.020 So that's why it doesn't work.

01:24:42.800 But shaming out of behavior that is immoral and, you know, bad for you and corruptive.

01:24:49.140 Yeah, that works.

01:24:49.940 Japan has this low birth rate because everybody's working like 100 hour weeks.

01:24:53.840 They're just nonstop working there.

01:24:55.740 They've been totally turned into robots.

01:24:59.480 Also, I don't think you're going to have women be in a traditional role when they're in the public sphere.

01:25:05.560 This is a big thing that's that's discussed in the church.

01:25:08.060 like you'll hear this with the orthodox priest being like hey the public domain is the main of

01:25:14.060 the is the domain of the man and the private domain is the domain of the woman you cannot

01:25:20.300 expect your woman to be in the public domain working and you know like we are you know pearl

01:25:27.260 we're in the public domain and also having the virtue of someone who is in the private sphere

01:25:33.100 and protect it it's not going to work so i'm going to have to ask you to come back on because pearl

01:25:45.260 is on a one-woman war against these fake tradcon influencers oh i use their families clout by the

01:25:52.220 way i'm all about that who drag their husband on the social media who tell women to be traditional

01:25:57.500 but then they have youtube their husbands are worth a hundred million dollars but then they

01:26:02.140 can't put their youtube channel down they're not staying home to take care of their children so

01:26:06.940 they need to come back on so so you and pearl can have an honest to goodness conversation and

01:26:11.900 call these broads out yeah they're like like mary i did the stats because they would always say to

01:26:17.660 mary for love or whatever and so i decided i wanted to see how traditional they were statistically

01:26:24.300 and so i'm like okay did you have four plus children marry before 25 and 25 to be honest

01:26:30.860 and the old days was kind of late so i was actually being generous and did you marry did

01:26:36.060 you were you hypergamous or did you marry your high school sweetheart uh did what was the net

01:26:41.020 worth of the husbands i i did the the numbers because a lot of women claim to be these things

01:26:45.500 but i'll i'll go through the numbers of like their life choices and they're always the same

01:26:51.180 and i found that the average net worth of a tradcon woman's husband was four million dollars

01:26:56.940 nice and they're still out here and they're still out here it's like candace owens and all these

01:27:02.720 broads there's no reason why they shouldn't be at home raising their children but they're out here

01:27:07.840 anyway they're like i care about my kids but let me post them on twitter where there's pedophiles

01:27:13.620 do you and then and then i'm like i think you know i think you're using your kids in your

01:27:22.360 relationship for clout and they get so mad i'm like you guys are just using them to like signal

01:27:28.440 you're good people like that you're right on the money with that then they get so mad at me i never

01:27:34.920 insult them i'm just like status signaling there it goes so so where we got to you b is pearl

01:27:41.880 actually has a model of the of uh conservative she's coming in the studio doug ah let's go

01:27:49.960 oh yeah she's gonna come i'll be in there you're you're in october right she's hilarious there in

01:27:55.640 october yeah i'll be happy to come in and by the way i i make no uh qualms about being trad or

01:28:01.560 anything you know my life did not go a nice nice route because the guy i married when i was 25

01:28:08.120 ended up being a certified con artist so excellent job what happened he was scamming people out of

01:28:16.680 of money like left and right and then i i don't have to get into it right but anyway did you get

01:28:23.020 scammed in a way yeah i did get scammed totally got scammed but you know you live and you learn

01:28:30.520 and then you turn into a bitter curmudgeon like i am and just fucking you get real bitter with

01:28:38.800 people i didn't didn't didn't make me bitter towards men i will say that i've got a lovely

01:28:42.800 man now who's wonderful but i uh well remember all you have to do is find your one and that's

01:28:48.040 what these bras don't understand you can hate fully agree man all you have to do is find your

01:28:51.740 one sean sean go ahead what were you saying yeah yeah let me just speak straight to the men if

01:28:57.400 you're listening look bro look people who tell you they have to be a stay-at-home wife in order

01:29:03.620 to be feminine or in order for this look most people in the world work everybody works bro

01:29:09.180 throughout human history everybody has worked men have protected and women have bared children

01:29:15.060 but everybody works you go to africa you go to asia you'll find women working everybody's surviving

01:29:21.180 because throughout time all people have struggled nobody has ever been home with the kids just

01:29:27.200 focused on the house right if the if the husband was farming the women's was taking the products

01:29:33.180 to the market to sell them so women in the west are trying to tell you guys well if i was at home

01:29:39.740 and i wasn't working corporate america i wouldn't be a man i wouldn't be masculine i wouldn't be

01:29:45.340 rude and disrespectful none of that is true okay you go out there and you live in the world and

01:29:50.700 touch grass and you'll find all people have struggled everybody has to do provision because

01:29:56.180 everybody's not multi-millionaires who makes money on the stock market well go ahead pearl

01:30:02.940 and the crazy thing is like you know i i'm all for the housewives or whatever but nowadays there's

01:30:09.100 two kids in public school so what's the kids like five i'm like what are you doing all day

01:30:14.380 you know what i mean my grandmother had nine she was pregnant for a decade so and she even

01:30:20.060 and she even had a part-time job she even got a part-time job after the youngest kid was like four

01:30:28.220 and then they just want to be drinking wine and taking roofies that's what they want to do

01:30:34.160 that they need to be that home no that's what i found out is i'm like a lot of these housewives

01:30:40.540 are just lazy and they want to use their kids to like build their brand and they just don't want

01:30:46.380 to they don't want to work so i'm like you know i'm not saying that you need to do a lot but

01:30:53.760 if your kids are at school and you if you work in part-time means you guys could retire early

01:30:59.660 i don't know why you wouldn't you know hey pearl breaking bacon bread is an all-day venture you

01:31:06.620 don't know how difficult that is you know what you know what i i learned how to make bread and

01:31:13.300 when i did it i was like this is a waste of time i'm like it's not that much better and you can

01:31:20.980 get a pretty good one from a bakery if you really want it and it's not very expensive

01:31:26.020 get that get that sales job at home or like the marketing we have so many jobs where we just do

01:31:34.900 nothing and make money i'm like don't you want your guy to retire early do you know what i mean

01:31:40.560 like the average guy makes like i don't know sixty thousand dollars a year so if you if you're like a

01:31:47.300 teacher you can make 40 that's an 100k household i'm gonna ask leonardo a question so did you see

01:31:56.400 that one little tay girl where she turned 18 and she got only fans and she made like a million

01:32:03.060 dollars in three hours did you see that yeah i saw that that was jewish propaganda but go ahead

01:32:07.640 anyway so um what so pearl and i have come up with the thing especially with the

01:32:16.520 get the get out of jail free card we say that church nowadays is the last stop on the horror

01:32:22.840 train all you have to do is is whore yourself out and then when you hit 25 to 28 you find jesus and

01:32:29.900 you find some church sent to mary so i would recommend honestly if you if you were a woman

01:32:36.740 that didn't want a traditional like you know a traditional nine to five get an only fans when

01:32:41.860 you're 18 make a couple of mil and then go to the church and find yourself a church simp i say this

01:32:48.380 because let's say a 18 year old girl would come to you and say you know what i don't want to work

01:32:55.640 a nine-to-five job i kind of want to do the entertainment business whatever blah blah

01:32:59.160 and she would ask for life advice how would you recommend she chart her life out

01:33:04.900 oh boy the last thing i would do is tell anybody to get into the entertainment business

01:33:10.900 um i don't know man i would i would probably ask her to really find some actual skills that she

01:33:17.380 had that the world could use which are going to be very hard to find for most people and

01:33:22.860 specifically most women and then focus on that instead of what everybody's doing but they're

01:33:28.280 not going to listen to me they're going to do what they're going to do they're going to do

01:33:30.260 what the culture is saying so there's no point and no i mean but her skill is you know throwing

01:33:35.400 ass it's it's the food well then you need to get who wants you to throw some ass that is you know

01:33:43.880 it says that in the bible it says god created marriage so that human beings could uh direct

01:33:49.820 their lust impulses into a uh structure where it wouldn't be so damaging to them oh here we go let

01:33:56.780 me just share you if you want to think that nobody will marry you as long as you stay hot you can

01:34:03.260 up like riley reed with i would say she has an above average husband i would say he's above

01:34:09.340 average and looks oh he looks like like you can't see the screen yeah this is this is crazy to me

01:34:16.060 when i see stuff like this where look and i'm not here i don't want to ever say oh here's one that's

01:34:21.900 not my job but here we go when i see where like chicks who did like this get a good husband

01:34:29.660 you know i'm like what the hell like what kind of message are the men sending that's like hey yeah

01:34:36.460 yeah you could you could do all that and somebody will still marry you and have a kid with you

01:34:40.940 like i would say nala ray's husband is conventionally attractive and above average

01:34:46.840 you know her yeah so here share this i'm about to share this tab instead oh wait hold on let me do

01:34:54.340 yeah i mean i would say that's like a conventionally oh my gosh i don't know what they're

01:34:59.820 trying to do here but i would say that's like a conventionally attractive guy i would say that's

01:35:05.040 better than a lot of women can do show her um show her the the woman that actually got into the

01:35:10.040 church uh jenna britney lamora remember her and her her pastor husband yeah she yeah but yes so

01:35:21.100 why wouldn't she make a million dollars just say sorry after you could still get the marriage you

01:35:27.720 can actually get clout being super holy and you can get a bunch of attention like you get all

01:35:34.700 these good person points because apparently in according to the christians uh it's better to

01:35:42.980 actually it's they give you microphone more if you messed up your life and then came back

01:35:49.480 instead of the people this is not this is not a real this is not a real repentance man i don't

01:35:54.500 understand how people are falling for this like you go look at these stories go look at these

01:35:58.000 stories of like you know there's saint mary of egypt who is one of the famous like you know

01:36:02.920 before she became a christian one of the famous hoes and when she repented i mean she went into

01:36:09.860 the desert and lived on locusts and honey and didn't see anyone until a monk came in i mean

01:36:16.500 that's a repentance so if these girls were like hey i'm gonna give every single dollar that i made

01:36:23.140 to some charity that tells girls don't do this and then they like you said i saw your interview

01:36:29.300 with that other one pearl if you said well you went to the back of the church and you shut your

01:36:34.340 mouth and you didn't talk yeah yeah i i would believe you then i would believe you then what

01:36:41.620 i'm gonna ask you because we've gotten asked this multiple times let's say okay let's say a woman

01:36:50.100 was on only fans did corn and stuff and was 27 years old and wanted to put it all behind her

01:36:57.220 what criteria would would she have to meet and for how long for you to to believe that she was

01:37:03.940 a changed woman because i i wouldn't ever believe her but but if i have to say say criteria i would

01:37:10.180 say she'd have to be brought into the church by a man of god right they'd have to be married for

01:37:17.140 for for 10 to 15 years she'd have to have have three of his kids and no whoring for at least

01:37:25.060 10 to 15 years yeah it's a 10-year minimum but you know again saint mary of egypt never married again

01:37:32.180 she she took the monastic vows because she knew she was so broken in that area and there was

01:37:37.860 another guy on here roosh v who was a pickup artist and he had a whole awakening and you could

01:37:45.060 see the change in him i mean it's not this is not a scam he's running his his whole face is different

01:37:52.100 you know and he's pretty much i think he he he was online everything he deleted all his socials

01:37:59.380 you know once he came to a certain point deleted all his socials and the last i heard he was

01:38:03.140 pursuing the monastic life i mean that's actually like a real repentance you realize like hey i

01:38:08.580 damaged it for something when you go that far right when you go so far in one direction the

01:38:14.580 repentance is going to be really far in the other direction not some mild thing like nala still

01:38:19.860 making cooking shows that are basically porn do you think that nala and all these women should

01:38:28.900 should give all that all that money back yeah 100 100 if you did that and you really repented and

01:38:37.480 you really feel like god what have i done to you because that's really what repentance means is

01:38:44.260 what you've done to god that sorrow and grief yeah you'd give all that back i like the 10-year

01:38:53.120 minimum i think that's good because you know and the other thing is i always wonder why the christian

01:38:59.420 guys are so willing especially the women they'll like embrace these porn stars and i'm like do you

01:39:05.120 want these former porn stars next to your husbands like you know they can they're a google search

01:39:12.940 away and these women are predators they've learned how to manipulate men for like i'm like i don't i

01:39:19.180 want him next to my boyfriend to get the back of the church you know what i mean

01:39:25.820 i thought you were saying why the men why the men embrace them i'm like the men

01:39:29.740 they're hot and these men would never have had access to these women so they're like

01:39:34.060 sweet and i found a bargain you know yeah it's like this car it's like a sports car that's got

01:39:41.420 a really really high mileage but it still runs like decently well so they're like oh this is

01:39:46.940 good this is a bargain this is pretty good 100 100 which i'm like what the you know you don't

01:39:53.820 you guys don't have a right to complain about the state of of women's morality when you're

01:39:57.980 endorsing this yeah i mean you know sex starved men uh like it's they'll accept a lot they really

01:40:06.460 will there's nothing because i think the biggest grift is the horde of church pipeline right now

01:40:15.740 and pearl said it the best the other day with the amount of women under 30 on only fans is there

01:40:23.260 like 1.2 million yeah girls under 30. you're 25 actually 25 that is gonna be that is gonna explode

01:40:32.940 in the next five to ten years that is the biggest grift right now is the church to

01:40:37.820 horror pipeline i can't wait till body blue joins oh you know what's happening dude you know what's

01:40:42.780 happening hey welcome to the show i'm gonna have to i'm gonna have to get out of here my uh man

01:40:47.900 just got home and oh you're you're fine thanks so much for coming we do these a lot so i'll send

01:40:53.180 them to you and if you ever want to hop on feel free all right sounds good thanks for having me

01:40:57.580 you're awesome thank you so much thanks guys bye maestro am i saying that right maestro

01:41:05.660 maestro maestro welcome to the show um so what is your thought on the topic oh my gosh

01:41:14.140 did i not put the w in women in the title how did no one tell me this i'll fix it okay um

01:41:24.780 all right are men or women the buyers in the marriage market what are your thoughts

01:41:29.500 uh so to answer your question yeah i thought it said omen so i i was kind of confused at

01:41:33.340 first for a look for a little bit um guys wait nobody tell me this

01:41:42.380 this is a movie but to answer your question yeah i think that um

01:41:48.220 um yeah to your to your point pearl yeah i think that um that that right now in the market that

01:41:53.740 men are buyers um i look at i look at the uh the market i coined it uh it's tricking or acquisition

01:42:02.860 okay that's the two ways that women are making their money okay um that's at least 90 of the

01:42:09.020 ways women are making their money today only 10 are probably actually earning it outside of

01:42:13.580 tricking or acquisition and so to answer your question yes i think that men are the buyers in

01:42:17.980 the marriage market i think a lot of the points that some of the other panelists had speak on

01:42:21.260 spoke on today made some sense but there was some contradiction okay keep going as well that i heard

01:42:28.380 uh but i'm not saying that anybody didn't make any good points or i'm judging anybody just tell

01:42:32.300 me the contradictions it's cool but uh you know no qualifiers go for it go ahead i i actually felt

01:42:39.260 bad because i was hoping i'd have more people felt like it was doug versus everybody so i'm kind of

01:42:44.700 yeah bring it on let's go go ahead god i'll i'll be i'll be in general i won't be specific um i i

01:42:53.180 do i have never been married and i know that's a big part of um you know how your position is

01:42:57.420 is making sure that people stand on what they do and who they are so and i respect that it's okay

01:43:01.580 it's it's just give me your opinion okay yeah no qualifiers man

01:43:05.840 give me the contradictions go ahead no people um keep we keep bringing up the bible uh i think that

01:43:14.400 that's one of the biggest contradictions that i hear people keep bringing up the bible quoting

01:43:18.080 scripture using these um terminologies when it comes to making their points however i would say

01:43:24.000 90 of these people who who say this and i was born in the christian upbringing as well and

01:43:30.820 believing so i understand that they none of them are holy none of them follow any of the stuff that

01:43:35.940 the bible talked about teaches or anything like that but it's just very convenient how we can

01:43:40.180 bring this up in the conversation uh and that's probably one of the biggest contradictions i've

01:43:44.740 been hearing today is using biblical using bible okay but i meant like on the argument earlier

01:43:51.380 why do you think that um why what's your argument for men being the buyers and women being the

01:43:57.700 sellers because most people that were on thought that women were the actual buyers

01:44:03.060 and then were the sellers so what's your argument for that going back to the point that i said uh

01:44:09.380 at the beginning that tricking or acquisition well if if um women are tricking and they're

01:44:15.700 acquiring then somebody's got to be buying something you know the market the market has

01:44:20.740 to be selling so when i say that men are the buyers and and women um are the ones who are

01:44:27.620 selling i'm saying that we as men are buying up the bs i don't know if i can curse or whatever

01:44:33.700 the case is but we bind up the bs um it's happening right now defending that we're making excuses

01:44:42.900 okay osmosis uh what are your thoughts are men or women or the cell okay well uh usually it's

01:44:52.340 a male body that gives energy and material about the stuff i want to talk about nature and stuff

01:44:57.780 some research i've been doing okay we got to stay on topic so if you can't just make sure

01:45:04.740 females are the buyers because it's a male body that might be why women just naturally want sex

01:45:11.380 from men actually direct some benefits and mood and stuff in fact uh there's actually more the

01:45:19.380 opposite she was talking about a woman being brainwashed so i want men actually seen the

01:45:23.620 opposite again there's already there's supposed to be like three sex strikes already before 4b

01:45:29.780 over trump's election over cavnar appointment over the dog decision all the sex rights failed

01:45:36.020 within a month thank you okay um hello sorry yeah hey jay why don't you go sorry i was gonna say i

01:45:46.280 think that uh women are the buyers for a wedding and the party and like maybe some functions where

01:45:55.200 like they need to show up with their husband or whatever to like look at like women are the

01:45:59.820 variance for the appearance of marriage and for things that come with it like that men are the

01:46:05.760 buyers for what they think a lifestyle of marriage would be like having you know a doting wife and

01:46:12.220 like you know like uh the old traditional marriage like i think men are the buyers of that while

01:46:19.260 women are the buyers of the party like that's why women once they get the lifestyle they're the

01:46:25.500 first ones that figure out oh wait this isn't something i want or he's not something i want

01:46:31.060 let's call a divorce or something like that like they're the ones that are pushing it and then

01:46:37.040 they're the ones that push divorce so they pretty much buy the wedding and then sell the marriage

01:46:43.760 cool uh what do you think sean hey sean what's up welcome back great call

01:46:51.180 sean just one sean

01:46:57.680 okay he must have went off somewhere but yeah you know i'll just go back to what i'm saying

01:47:07.120 you know when you get my age there's a lot of women that want to be married but men are not

01:47:13.240 marrying them and i know plenty of women that that are desperate for marriage desperate and

01:47:19.480 What's your age? You said your age.

01:47:23.320 I don't know what your age is.

01:47:26.320 Mid-40s.

01:47:27.260 Mid-40s. Mid-40s.

01:47:29.220 Mid-40s. Listen to me.

01:47:32.020 So what I'm saying is

01:47:33.160 and so once again

01:47:35.040 even when a woman chooses

01:47:37.120 to settle for a simp

01:47:39.140 she'll divorce him and she'll be back

01:47:40.660 out of here saying, you know, I'm not

01:47:43.080 going to settle again. I'm going to be

01:47:45.140 single for the rest of my life until a

01:47:47.100 man of substance proposes to me.

01:47:49.480 I would actually argue even when the man of substance proposes, we got examples of this in society all the time.

01:47:57.800 Like our Tom Brady and like almost every single high earning person that would be considered like in the NBA or in a major like for sports in America and Europe.

01:48:13.400 any of those guys are like considered like what i would think would be considered a high value man

01:48:19.580 and they're all getting divorced so everyone is screwed yeah yeah yeah i agree i would still say

01:48:25.640 that women are the buyers because i don't think most men even have the option to buy and i think

01:48:32.220 most women have like 10 buyers lined up to be honest even at an old age i think most of the

01:48:39.620 most of the women i think there's revealed stated preferences versus revealed preferences

01:48:44.980 so like for example people say that they want to lose weight but they won't eat less or go to the

01:48:49.540 gym i think women that say they want to get married might say that but if you've ever seen

01:48:54.900 a woman that really wants to get married she's going on like 10 hinge dates a week and it's

01:48:59.620 like a mission you know what i like but she can't get married unless a guy proposes yeah but it still

01:49:04.980 goes back to if she wanted to get married she'd lose weight and she would do actions to get married

01:49:12.020 and yeah i just think most women could get married i also think that the she can't get

01:49:17.140 married unless the guy proposes isn't exactly accurate with it being the 20th century there

01:49:22.180 are a very minority's percentage of women willing to like less than 10 percent and there are men

01:49:30.660 out there who would be like yeah i like that you gotta let him finish yeah like it's okay

01:49:37.940 go ahead i was saying like like uh about the proposed like

01:49:45.620 not because he like interrupted me like i would try i forget what we were arguing about now

01:49:51.060 like i forget the point i was well it does it does happen i'll try to moderate

01:49:55.540 but yeah oh only being one-sided okay yeah yeah like in in the 20th century like with these men

01:50:03.060 and these now like boss women out there there are actually women who will be like yeah i'll propose

01:50:08.900 or like you know like they'll force a guy to get him to propose or whatever and that's pretty much

01:50:14.980 proving he's a simp but it works a lot of these times in this day and age or whatever

01:50:20.420 yeah go get the guy be like if you don't propose i'm out of here and then instead of being the guy

01:50:28.760 who would actually get control of it and being like well fine leave yeah yeah yeah most of the

01:50:34.140 guys are gonna be simpson actually be like more men more men are just gonna do it like i've seen

01:50:40.880 it i mean you could argue maybe the second time around men learn but first time around i would

01:50:47.460 say i would say 75 of the first time marriages the woman nagged him into doing it and he did it

01:50:53.860 i would also they live where she wants to live they go to school like the kids go to school where

01:50:58.180 she wants like it's just so obvious most women have the power in relationships i was just gonna

01:51:04.980 also say that um when it um come this is a good super chat this is a good one it's a stalemate

01:51:15.780 if women were a business model they'd be selling a car no one can afford in a neighborhood where

01:51:20.420 they need trucks they price themselves out of the market and are going bankrupt that might be the

01:51:25.780 best one it says i know i just read it data from 2017 to 2024 shows figures raised from less than

01:51:36.580 one to two percent of women proposing to men in current marriages statistically insignificant

01:51:44.420 sorry i think it almost proves that women don't want to be married yeah but that also doesn't

01:51:50.860 take any time that they were forced into it like instead of like you didn't propose to me but like

01:51:56.340 the woman was like when you're going to propose when you're going to propose and the proposal

01:52:00.260 came strictly because of the woman nagging him to do it yeah i know yeah i know like i'm thinking

01:52:09.840 of three people right now top of my head those guys did not want to be married or have kids

01:52:15.200 they currently are i'm not going to tell you who they are they're people i know personally like

01:52:22.400 but i'm like yeah i'm not gonna i'm not gonna do that too that'd be embarrassing for them you know

01:52:28.000 but i'm like they they did not want to be married or have kids but you know she was persistent

01:52:33.840 one of them said he would never and she just she just kept nagging

01:52:38.240 a quick question are you saying that that women are because they're spending

01:52:42.800 if i did i hear you correctly no i'm saying i think women are the buyers because women always

01:52:49.200 have more men that are willing to propose than men that have women that want to marry them

01:52:55.200 i don't think most men have a lot of women that you could argue that maybe 10 of men

01:53:01.120 have choice in who they marry i think most men kind of just take what they can get

01:53:05.680 so therefore women are the are the buyers so you could you could argue i see the argument that men

01:53:14.360 actually have to get on their knee and i would say that would stand true if men held frame and

01:53:20.520 could say no to women in their relationships um i think that maybe is developed in the second half

01:53:26.780 of life for men but at least with first half first time marriages no i was just i was just

01:53:33.480 to say i don't think mgtow and red pill men exist until they get screwed over like i agree i don't

01:53:41.560 think that mentality comes if the first woman you actually get with was like a miracle that was

01:53:48.920 actually a good girl and was like you know loyal and not leaving you and not giving you like if

01:53:54.920 if that if that happened and it was a good relationship i don't think you get to red pill

01:53:59.960 i think red pill people are the men that got screwed over so much that they harden themselves

01:54:05.800 or something you don't take the red pill orally it gets shoved up your ass yeah pretty much

01:54:12.360 i know men personally we're all i just know they're gonna get screwed right these are

01:54:18.680 i'll give them the book i'll i'll be like hey you know you should research the divorce laws i said

01:54:27.400 this to a really close relative of mine and literally literally he was like yeah i'm not

01:54:34.280 going to research that i love her man

01:54:45.240 and you know i actually really like the one i really do like her but you know i know the

01:54:50.520 numbers so i'm like are you sure you don't wanna you don't wanna you don't look into it no well

01:54:56.200 good luck see ya like you know so so are we saying so are you saying i just want to clarify

01:55:02.600 because i do see that men are so we we know that men are having to spend more to even get the

01:55:09.800 attention to even get into that position for there to be even marriage how are women still the buyers

01:55:15.880 in this market well because i think most i think well i don't think most men qualify for marriage

01:55:22.040 for women i think more women reject men for marriage than men reject women like i think most

01:55:28.680 women like what i see is women especially in their 20s even early 30s i mean they have like starter

01:55:35.640 boyfriends like i think most guys would have married their high school or college girlfriend

01:55:40.920 and then the women are like no but pearl i also think that doesn't work out either like i think

01:55:46.680 that gets you all those women if they're five or six they've encountered men in their 20s

01:55:54.520 in their 20s where that they wish the guy would have committed to them

01:55:58.920 in a serious way and or married them but they freaking dug him out and left them

01:56:03.800 yeah yeah women are getting dug out yeah i i agree but if they really wanted to they would

01:56:09.800 move on and bang somebody else but also i think it's i mean because you have to understand women

01:56:15.720 right now you can download a dating app even at like 35 and have 5 000 matches now you might

01:56:24.520 you might you could go on 10 dates a week if you want it it's not like men don't have that choice

01:56:32.360 um and you you could argue oh well they'll use them for sex but it's like

01:56:38.120 yeah but out of like 5 000 matches there's a good person i just i just think that

01:56:45.240 you're and our biggest contention is uh is the meaning of buy so like you're i think that you're

01:56:52.520 grouping in sex and dealing with the man with buying but like a man doesn't like when something

01:56:59.560 is bought it's taken off the market permanently that's what i'm saying well then marriage can't

01:57:04.840 do that anyway yeah marriage can't hold on hold on please jesus

01:57:14.520 What I'm saying is about what buying means.

01:57:18.700 In my opinion of buying, you take something off the market,

01:57:22.040 and a woman has to sell herself to be taken off the market by a man.

01:57:28.740 That's all I'm saying, and only a man can do that.

01:57:32.400 I don't think a woman has to take something off the market because divorce exists.

01:57:35.760 Well, I think, wait, I think, yeah, that's true.

01:57:39.220 The divorce exists.

01:57:40.140 But I think more men are selling themselves to women than women selling themselves to men.

01:57:44.520 if women were selling themselves 30 wouldn't have an oldly fans they would be overweight

01:57:49.400 but i look at the men and they're like in shape guys usually have something going for themselves

01:57:54.200 like i don't i don't have this notion that like are you got to stop interrupting the host okay j

01:58:01.160 so um i know there's this notion that like men are losers or whatever like there's i always hear that

01:58:06.680 from like certain sections of the red pill but i i just it's just not what i see go ahead i was

01:58:13.720 was just gonna say i also think um the dynamic is messed up because in order for a man to actually

01:58:20.500 be a womanizer that takes effort on his part that takes being looking good that takes talking the

01:58:28.340 right way that takes always being smooth and suave to the woman like there's a whole lot of

01:58:34.500 you have to do to be a chad or tyrone but to be a chick that gets laid a lot that's pretty much

01:58:41.080 nothing you have to do but be a chip well and the other thing too is even these days i mean women

01:58:47.480 sleep with men and don't want commitment like these days it's like i'll talk to guys and they'll

01:58:54.760 and they'll tell me their problem is the women will bang them but they won't stick around

01:59:00.120 i'm like you've got to be kidding me crazy so for clear so i just want to get some clarity

01:59:05.240 for clarity because you had said did you say women were selling you said our men were selling

01:59:09.480 no i think i think that well i said i could be swayed but from my

01:59:15.160 perspective i thought the arguments were stronger that came in earlier um

01:59:21.160 and i i think that men or women are the buyers and men are the sellers that's what i think um

01:59:30.440 yeah because most men don't have that much choice you could argue like 10 of men

01:59:36.040 maybe are but i would say over 50 a man no i mean and i would also argue if you're like let's say

01:59:45.640 you're great in one area that would make you attractive to women like let's say you're a

01:59:51.080 billionaire like bill gates is still not a ladies man or whatever like like you can be you can make

01:59:59.160 yourself attractive in one of the ways that would make you a high value man and if you don't have

02:00:03.720 all the other things you're still not quite there even though your wealth or whatever would put you

02:00:09.240 there so i actually think it's just harder in life in general for being like to be a man and like in

02:00:17.080 social settings in general or whatever well i think this is a good discussion regardless sean are you

02:00:23.880 there i was really hoping to hear from you so

02:00:34.680 i don't know he calls in a lot i i just thought he'd have a really good take on this that's too

02:00:38.680 bad uh but you're welcome to give um your final thoughts oh my gosh you know i i'm bad with names

02:00:46.520 and pronunciation so it's not you it's me maestro maestro sorry maestro okay

02:00:53.880 I guess my final thoughts, I was just trying to get clarity. To your point, I appreciate you and all the work that you've done for over these last few years. But in terms of the sellers, I just wanted to make sure that we were clear because like the other person said, I think we were having maybe a confusion on the word buying versus the selling part. But I would argue that to your point, okay, how can men be able to sell when they ain't really got it to sell? If you're saying that they can't buy, well, they ain't really got much to sell either.

02:01:22.320 I mean, if I know the market, then you've got to have something that's valuable that

02:01:27.080 can be in demand.

02:01:28.560 And if it's the top 20% of men that are being actually gained by these women, what are the

02:01:37.340 rest of the 80% selling at that point?

02:01:42.120 Well, I'd say there's men that they could still provide for a woman and they're decent

02:01:50.120 looking, but it's just not enough.

02:01:52.320 it's just that's that's what i would say like um there's one i'm thinking of in particular where

02:02:02.300 it's like you know he's got a good job but it's just the women don't stick around

02:02:07.240 he probably would have married his last girlfriend she left he probably would have married the

02:02:13.300 girlfriend before that she also left it's like what's he supposed to you know it just doesn't

02:02:19.200 seem like he's a he's a buyer to me you know they just keep going seems like that's that's what i

02:02:28.480 would say but i'm open to hearing another point of view so if you have a response to that feel free

02:02:35.520 to go ahead it's um i was i was talking to i was talking to him go ahead um yeah i i would say

02:02:44.880 that as as your point i definitely can understand that it can go uh either way i just my goal was

02:02:52.240 just to get clarity and then in terms of the uh buyer versus selling i think it's one of those

02:02:57.920 things where oftentimes we conflate the actual um the the the relationship market the marriage market

02:03:05.520 and then you as an entrepreneur a business owner yourself you know how the you know demand really

02:03:10.160 works you know how suppliers really work and i think oftentimes most people don't actually pound

02:03:16.080 for pound equally for equal like are able to uh um correlate the two worlds because they're

02:03:22.640 different but they're very similar so that's why i asked you that question you know if men don't

02:03:26.720 really have much value to offer what the heck are they selling to these women that would get them to

02:03:32.160 want to buy anyway and that's why i go back to my point i think women are the buyers because they

02:03:36.800 actually have um so they actually have what something to actually purchase with oh yeah

02:03:43.760 the purchasing power that makes any sense if that makes sense sean are you there yeah okay now you're

02:03:50.240 back okay sorry about that having some heads of the problems yeah i was gonna say when men want

02:03:54.240 children they're definitely the buyers uh but to your point i don't think they have much choice in

02:03:59.840 general so it's like as soon as they can get one girl for a relationship that can act right

02:04:05.840 and she starts pushing marriage more and more most men are going to sign up for it and the way you

02:04:09.760 know that is you know jay cutler after getting cashed out by his ex-wife is now engaged right

02:04:15.520 so that shows you these guys will go into the same bs again and again just to keep one good girl

02:04:22.080 around for as long as possible uh so i think in today's day and age you know i think the reason

02:04:28.560 why guys do join the red pill is just because like you know they get screwed over by a girl

02:04:33.680 and then they start googling you know why are these girls flaking on us why are they doing this

02:04:38.160 that and the other and that's when they discover a lot of this content but you know i think guys

02:04:42.880 are going to get lonely at a certain point and they're going to meet a girl who starts acting

02:04:46.640 right in their eyes and sure enough they're going to get married again and again i think that's just

02:04:51.680 how things are going to play out and then she'll switch up yeah i mean and i think most guys just

02:04:57.600 need to have a healthy expectation for you know relationships and or marriage is that it's going

02:05:03.840 to last as long as it lasts and that's it so you know as many good years you can get with that girl

02:05:09.920 for as long as that lasts that's what you're getting and it could be one year it could be

02:05:14.320 five it could be ten but eventually it'll all come to an end and you'll have to move on and

02:05:19.200 i think if they can accept that reality i think maybe most men will won't be as bitter about the

02:05:24.720 the red pill as maybe a lot of the guys online are yeah and she'll try to ruin your life on the

02:05:30.800 way out pretty much sorry fellas uh well thanks guys this was such a good doug mpa this is a great

02:05:41.360 choice doug mpa told me to make this the topic today so we should give him a little round of

02:05:47.260 applause for the for the topic selection because this is i think this is my favorite show we've

02:05:52.220 done in a while so good job doug mpa you're welcome um do you have any final thoughts that

02:06:00.160 you want to add i got nothing cool um well thank you guys for calling in i think i'm gonna end it

02:06:10.660 at that so thanks for calling it guys let me cool well do you i'm guessing you still stand on

02:06:23.560 you're still team men are the buyers huh i got nothing no okay okay well um all right guys make

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Pearl - September 04, 2025

Panel Show： Are Men or Women the Buyers in the Marriage Market？

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