00:19:07.320do b-dubs all right okay so um we're gonna go over the rules um i the panelists in the back
00:19:12.920can hear me or you should if you can't then you might have audio issues um so
00:19:20.840we got to keep it respectful this isn't too contentious of a topic so today should be fine
00:19:26.360what do you think the talking limit per person should be roughly we're gonna try to keep it
00:19:31.320around two two and a half minutes and if there's a good back and forth we'll let it go but we have
00:19:39.160one two three four five six six people plus pearl on the panel i'm going to be moderating and don't
00:19:46.520don't take it personal if i have to mute you once again i put in the chat we've had a couple of
00:19:52.040people that try to do main character syndrome on here you got to leave it at the door everyone's
00:19:57.560equal here and don't bring up your personal life unless you you want what you brought up about your
00:20:03.400personal life scrutinized and don't do the oh not all women not all we're all adults here yeah we
00:20:09.960make generalizations on this channel yeah so we're gonna i mean this is a new show so we might you
00:20:15.880know think of rules down the road audience feel free to interact you know but i think today will
00:20:20.920be all right so okay let's let me start with i want to do a special warm welcome i wasn't sure
00:20:28.040if he was coming aaron clary welcome to the show hey hang on had i didn't i gotta get my camera i
00:20:35.700didn't know we're gonna do three-way here aaron well i'm gonna bring up the whole panel in a
00:20:39.540second but i do need to give him a special shout out because aaron broke down the economics of
00:20:44.880dating women i did and you know it's crazy so he he broke it down from a numbers point of view
00:20:52.200um and jesse's like a dating coach so he went out and dated
00:20:57.520what's going on good to be on good to meet everyone uh welcome to the show jesse thank you
00:21:06.900i got i don't think we've met before as a dating with al you got it good to meet you glad to be
00:21:13.380here thank you we got spirit chili are you are muted you got on mute but welcome to the show
00:21:21.860um dirty rotten people welcome to the show how's it going everybody good to be here
00:21:27.620and we got aj's uh rants and reactions welcome what's going on everybody all right um so i'm
00:21:35.700gonna toss it over to doug mpa um he is gonna moderate the show today and give us some openers
00:21:43.060but welcome everybody thank you for coming okay so we normally do a trending topic first
00:21:51.540and then we're gonna do like a micro about the topic and then other panel and then a macro so
00:21:59.540let me the the trending topic is i don't know if you know who this is but i'm gonna bring up the
00:22:06.180screen guys make sure to like the video subscribe to the channel i really appreciate it and athena
00:22:10.820is in the chat i hope everything is going well with you my friend i hope to have you on another
00:22:15.700panel soon thank you for getting all the panelists together she has brought so much value in a short
00:22:20.980amount of time so thank you athena and say hi to athena in the chat everyone and let me share my
00:22:26.900screen real fast share one second what's the first one it's the the indian chick right no no um no
00:22:40.340we're gonna do um remember nicholas pepe so yeah so nicholas pepe he is a popular
00:22:54.980football player he's worth 30 million dollars and he was worth well i know right
00:23:02.260it's 15 now so this is him and his ex-wife right here
00:23:11.540you can see nicholas pippa left his wife and two kids for a porn star a porn star tiana trump
00:23:18.100and and so this is him and her right there and this was him and his ex-wife and i saw this tweet
00:23:26.240and this is what um right he's this person salt of the earth says see why we say as a man you need
00:23:32.180to get it out of your system when you're still a bachelor get with all the baddies you can
00:23:35.740you can get your hands on fulfill your wildest fantasies only when you're done should you get
00:23:40.660married or else you feel get married then ruin your own marriage later so i want to go around
00:23:47.940the once again this was his first life with two kids whatever he's 30 years old with 35 million
00:23:52.740dollars he's leaving his wife behind to get with a corn star tiana trump please tell me i mean
00:24:01.860i mean i i i mean he's dating a chick with like a sleeve you know she's kind of overweight so
00:24:07.700he's probably just like he's probably you know just like he's probably thinking that either one
00:24:17.140probably has a past so at this point he might as well get the hotter one
00:24:22.740Anyone else want to jump in? Why would Nicholas Pepe divorce his wife to get with Tiana Trump, a corn star?
00:24:32.060Probably retarded, but it's not. I mean, when you're inexperienced as a guy and something like this comes across your lap, you don't think about it.
00:24:42.980You just jump on it. So inexperienced and also don't underestimate these Jezebels and the power they have over these men.
00:24:50.720so i'd like to jump in if i could go ahead you know this is what i tell a lot of the women i
00:25:00.280coach all the time speaking of a woman in the audience you will never be your man's only sexual
00:25:05.920outlet okay whether that's him looking at corn a playboy magazine ig models of girls the reality
00:25:16.160of the fact is you will never be your man's only sexual outlet okay i don't know why he decided to
00:25:22.860divorce his baby mama or go about it that way but maybe if you had the conversation like hey
00:25:28.960i'm a man i can either look at porn or i can get a side chick maybe it's because he avoided that
00:25:35.720kind of tough conversation i think it's maybe because he's uh his family's african right so
00:25:42.600he's he's born in paris you know he's probably like the son of immigrants and they're really
00:25:47.320really like catholic or really religious right and then maybe this chick just laid it on him and
00:25:54.040opened up his whole universe to debauchery that he never had experienced you know maybe he's doing
00:25:58.920lions offer labia i don't know you know what i'm saying so i mean that has to be it you know like
00:26:05.880it's probably like a cultural thing he thinks it's a status thing i don't know but if any of
00:26:14.120you have fallen for a really promiscuous woman tell me what did she do that made you fall for her
00:26:19.720tits got got got five thousand she fought really really well
00:26:29.880okay i want to hear what spirit chili has to say why do you think
00:26:33.720a man left you know a relatively unknown woman who wasn't i'm pretty sure back in the day she was
00:26:39.560you know attractive before the two kids or whatever but to leave for a corn star what
00:26:44.760do you think they're married too so it's not like his girlfriend his wife yeah well i mean
00:26:49.880there's obvious reasons lust is the obvious one i mean only fans is is on the rise definitely
00:26:57.960lately more so uh a lot of women like to take their independence their only fans i have uh
00:27:04.520won't talk about it very much but i do have a little experience uh in that department so i do
00:27:10.360know where that lifestyle comes from um i know that when you have more money you tend to have
00:27:16.600less discipline uh that's not necessarily always the case but marriage takes a lot of discipline
00:27:23.000and lust and that type of behavior in life is just normalized now basically
00:27:30.440that's all i really have as far as input i don't really follow shitty things like that so did he
00:27:36.200get a head injury in it in the game or something did he get maybe he got kicked in the head in the
00:27:43.080last uh football season or something i don't know i could definitely agree with that uh there's a
00:27:49.240a lot of stupidity that comes with lust so it's based off of your primal instincts so i have to
00:27:54.920say all these athletes are not good with their finances in general um it may just be financial
00:28:02.580education if you look whatever nba nfl doesn't matter how many of them have baby mamas how many
00:28:08.760of them have kids it's almost uh well i've made it i have unlimited wealth and i don't even know
00:28:15.080if marriage i mean you said he's he was 30 or he is 30. so he got with this gal pretty young yeah
00:28:21.560i i don't think the concept of marriage was all that serious within him as it would be per a lot
00:28:27.240of the professional athletes so this is just i'll throw money at it and it goes away it could have
00:28:32.360been cultural because he's african so they got he got married early as a cultural thing right and
00:28:37.240then he he started making more money and all that stuff and obviously but i think that you know
00:28:43.080You know, Kevin Samuels, he said that athletes and entertainers don't count as what he would call kind of like the high value thing, right?
00:52:42.700I don't know how you could sit at a dinner table with your spouse as you were talking about where to send your kids to school, how to raise your children, what decisions to make with your income if you guys have differing views on policy.
00:54:24.140Dirty rotten people, I want to hear your opinion on this.
00:54:27.780Yes, I think it I think nowadays it has a lot to do with the the political extremism, you know, when it comes to the division, like right now, like people aren't really their political differences and the discussions that they have.
00:54:42.460They're not like they're not like, well, I think more, you know, funding should go to our local schools.
00:54:47.880And, you know, my husband thinks that they should go to infrastructure.
00:54:51.880You know, right now it's like, it's more like, uh, if you don't believe in what I believe in, uh, you're trying to unalive, uh, everybody like me, you know, like say like on the, on the Tik TOK streets, right?
00:55:03.280Uh, we got, uh, most of the T people, you know, all your transformers, uh, their general belief is that like, if you don't affirm their pronouns, you're contributing to, uh, uh, mass trans genocide.
00:55:15.280Right. So it's like and this is this is about to do with the politics, the the politicians and the media.
00:55:23.280You know, that's that's how they try to spin their narratives. Super extreme. Right.
00:55:28.620So. So, yeah, right now, there's there's there's no there's just not going to be much, you know, meeting across the table.
00:55:36.720Right. You know, there's not going to be a lot of people dating.
00:55:40.100As a matter of fact, I pulled up some some statistics I might share at some point.
00:55:45.280on grok that's uh pretty interesting that that talks about how you know people uh people now
00:55:52.120more than ever really are uh they're more politically divided they're not interested
00:55:55.780in dating people with different political opinions uh and and they they're very comfortable with
00:56:01.560separating or divorcing over difference in political beliefs so yeah we're very very
00:56:06.560separated politically right now for sure i love liberal chicks they're the easiest chicks you
00:56:12.140to pull they're so easy they're so easy so i love them all right but listen would i marry one
00:56:17.760absolutely fucking not all right there's no shot now i would know so hey they're they're sexually
00:56:22.640liberated bro they're easy yes actually i will say this though women believe what they want and
00:56:27.580they'll change their beliefs for the right guy okay so as long as you're able to get them to
00:56:32.880like you and fall in love with you they'll change their beliefs in a fucking heartbeat i've done it
00:56:37.580i've seen it a million times should you marry those type of girls if she's been a liberal for
00:56:41.680more than two years, even six months, she's probably been through the block. So you should
00:56:45.760probably not marry that, you know, but women are very, you know, they're like clay. So they'll
00:56:50.860believe whatever they want to believe for the right guy, even more so.
00:56:56.320Yeah. I mean, that's basically stole some of the words out of my mouth. My toxic masculinity take
00:57:04.660on the subject is a woman will take on the views of the man that she's with. If she's truly in
00:57:10.240love with a man she will conform to his world views politically religiously etc etc the reality
00:57:16.900of the fact is most women today are liberal and you can look at the voting numbers and it's clear
00:57:22.280as day so honestly i think it's our job as men to date these liberal women to take them back from
00:57:31.480the state if you will to sigh up them into our our world views right it's our responsibility
00:57:36.780we have to take our woman back from the state propaganda it can be done it can be done
00:57:43.240no do you want to expand on the point you had put in the chat that both of the women are feminists
00:57:49.100yeah i think uh both these women are feminists because they both uh well it's like all women
00:57:56.980are feminists to an extent because they they all kind of like watch out for their own first
00:58:01.480the second girl was like oh he's gonna be my future husband blah blah this but it's just
00:58:06.420like you can just tell through her body language how like she's like a nag and she's like my man
00:58:11.380has to be like this this isn't that she doesn't sound like a fun woman she sounds like my husband
00:58:15.540my children oh yeah you see what i'm saying like this kind of like energy of like she doesn't want
00:58:21.440to get to know you she wants a plow horse she just wants a guy she can put on the plantation
00:58:25.320and work for him while she does absolutely nothing and pretends to be catholic all day we see it on
00:58:30.880twitter i mean you you debate them all the time those those are the type of women the lila roses
00:58:35.360of the world the the whatever that's what they do they they nag men all day and then do one percent
00:58:41.080of the wife stuff it's just like no i could i could easily tell i don't think first dates are
00:58:45.580for planning the future i think men should just focus on having fun and it's relationship is her
00:58:51.340problem if you want to be a good woman for me figure it out you're a woman it's it's your
00:58:56.980problem i'm republic and i'm right wing whatever but i'm not going to like try to convince you you
00:59:02.540have to do that yourself. If you don't meet my standards, then I can go find another girl. You
00:59:07.560can find another guy, really. Aaron, what do you think? Pretty much what people have echoed here
00:59:14.720before. Younger women, more attractive women, as you said before, they tend to be liberal because
00:59:20.500they're younger. Most of these girls have been given this ideology because absent children and
00:59:26.100husband and marriage and family, what other God are they going to have? And so they go with the
00:59:31.180god that schools gave them so it's you know feminism rah rah girl boss and all that um but
00:59:36.740then when it comes to more serious matters like if you're going to commit to that uh yes the girl
00:59:41.380if you know this is why you should not oh i will never date a democrat or a woke girl no go ahead
00:59:45.860you know as long as i don't got hairy armpits go date them you know if you like to be finding
00:59:48.980physically attractive and then if they really like you i mean they'll throw all of that out the door
00:59:55.320unless it is absolutely core to their being, and in which case they're not.
01:00:02.000I will tell you this, woke women, left-leaning women, are basically antithetical to marriage
01:00:07.460because being woke, being left, and all that generally is parasitic and selfish.
01:00:12.620They have no capability of responsibility, self-seportation, or selflessness, which is what love is.
01:00:20.840And so, yes, you kind of got to discern, does she have good morals?
01:00:26.580Because all young girls are going to be Democrats, leftists, woke, whatever.
01:00:29.320They're going to say the popular thing.
01:00:31.080Is there a quality woman inside there who's like, you could sit her down short of the budget and say, look, sweetheart, this is how it really works?
01:00:41.940But if this is the hill they're going to die on and it's become part of their actual moral fiber, not just the platitude or something they regurgitate to be popular on social media, you cannot – I'll say this.
01:00:54.740It is – to be happy and have a successful marriage, you cannot marry a leftist, a socialist, a woke woman, or a Democrat.
01:01:03.060They just – they're not – their moral code is not compatible with marriage.
01:01:09.720I don't know if you would have these numbers, but when you were writing your book, was there a difference in debt between liberal and conservative women?
01:01:22.140I would imagine there is because only in so far is liberal women tend to choose worthless degrees more.
01:01:29.320And that's the number one financial thing affecting young women in particular is their student loan debt.
01:01:34.960And not to say there isn't like a sociology majoring Republican girl out there, but generally leftist women will skew towards your worthless degrees and have the debt and the student loans that come with it.
01:01:47.880So you would probably find a positive correlation, but it wouldn't be, oh, you're a Republican.
01:01:52.740Well, you must be a STEM major with $300,000 in the bank.
01:02:04.180Yeah. No, there is a couple of gals. Yeah. One realized, yeah, being a teacher is stupid. Anyone can do it. Some gals started, they would appreciate my hustle because when I was younger, obviously like all of us were, you know, whatever living in basements. And I'd say, no, I can't do it. I don't have the money or I'd fix my own car or something like that.
01:02:25.060So your actions, which are kind of apolitical, they started coming around and like, yeah, this is or helping them with taxes was a huge thing where I'm like, yeah, here's what you paid in taxes.
01:02:34.980And they're like, oh, my God. I'm like, well, you voted for it. So you as a person, as you date them through apolitical behaviors, morals, ethics, they'll start to or just simple adult responsibility.
01:02:49.560they will probably come along or at least understand um yeah but i've it doesn't happen
01:02:58.420it's not like the third date we sat down and read atlas shrug and now she's like oh my god i'm
01:03:03.380totally conservative and let's have sex and here's the lingerie of it that then it took a little
01:03:08.120longer than that but yes you can change them over time and so actually i was gonna ask you jesse
01:03:16.400When you were dating or when you're dating, how long does it take for a girl to go from
01:03:22.160liberal to conservative if she ends up adopting your beliefs?
01:03:46.400And so to automatically go in and assume, oh, she's not a slut because she's a conservative is kind of like a big flaw that you want to take a step back from, right?
01:03:57.480So take it with a grain of salt and judge her based on her behaviors, right, how she treats it, stuff like that, rather than just saying, oh, she's conservative.
01:04:07.980Because I've been to those country clubs where they're all wearing boots and they're all conservative, and I'll tell you something.
01:04:12.260They still get around, all right, whether they're conservative or liberal.
01:04:15.520So don't base it off of that. Base it off her actions and really do a background check on these women before you dive into any sort of marriage talk.
01:04:23.840Cool. I want to hear from Spirit Chili.
01:04:26.780I kind of wanted to piggyback off of what he said because liberal women do tend to be way more impressionable than conservative women because conservative women tend to get their views from their lifestyle and their youth.
01:04:40.800i will say i did live in portland i was a vegetarian for four years a vegan for two i did
01:04:46.480have a septum i never identified as liberal but i was definitely a democrat and i'm from democrat
01:04:52.160states i was an activist i did all of those things i wasn't necessarily liberal i never
01:04:59.200identified as liberal to don't lie to me you have the pink hair i will i will continue this is red
01:05:04.320first of all i did have a peak and i did have a purple i had all you know i'm an alt this is i'm
01:05:11.200actually kind of dressed up kind of decent today because this is my first podcast um but i do uh
01:05:18.000know that i red-pilled myself uh based off of logic and reasoning and the reason why those liberal
01:05:23.440women will tend to change their narrative and their perspective based off of the men that they
01:05:29.040are with is because they're impressionable women because who who red-pilled you what creator um
01:05:36.480honestly i i don't think it was necessarily a specific creator a candidate event oh um well i
01:05:44.960had a natural dmt experience a special spiritual awakening hence the name spirit oh wait no what
01:05:50.960what like what content were you watching like what youtubers so i it wasn't influencers it was
01:05:58.000personal experience i've been around i lived in new mexico and i experienced trump derangement
01:06:03.280syndrome firsthand i was actually there this was before i was supportive of trump i was in the
01:06:09.520trump rallies i don't know if you guys are familiar with what happened in albuquerque
01:06:13.680new mexico a long time ago there was a big riot um they put out tear gas i was in that crowd i
01:06:19.760was there for observation and i realized that something kind of clicked in my mind and i was
01:06:25.280still back in new mexico and i eventually did move to portland but that's when the wheels started
01:06:29.840turning for me that i did not fit in with all of this social media influence i didn't fit in with
01:06:35.680the narrative of activism because my policies my ideas my beliefs were more independent focused
01:06:43.200and i've always kind of been uh what's the black sheep and i think that's kind of where it comes
01:06:48.720from i didn't grow up with my mom either i think that's the biggest the biggest influence is i did
01:06:54.480not grow up with my mom and i grew up with my dad and he was super hyper independent i kind of had
01:07:00.560to raise myself so everything i've learned i've just learned from experience not a lot of women
01:07:06.000get that and that's still in portland no no no actually i left as soon as covet happened because
01:07:15.280my instincts did kick in because um i was a part of the petitioning for like psilocybin therapy
01:07:22.000and uh drug reformation there and it i had some doubts with the drug reformation that did happen
01:07:29.600in oregon and a lot of that when covid kicked in i knew you have to say the cough cough don't say
01:07:36.720oh cough cough yeah you're right sorry i forgot it's youtube sorry trust me i've been demonetized
01:07:42.800i had more social media influence before before i started talking about this topic so i understand
01:07:48.480sorry um but yeah so i my instincts kicked in as soon as 2019 happened and i left that state and
01:07:56.160um i've kind of just been on the observation end of everything and just kind of seeing
01:08:01.440anything from a broader lens so so i'm going to bring you back to the topic yeah how would you um
01:08:07.680just with that 20 seconds do you think it's worth dating someone with oppositional political
01:08:14.000beliefs give me 20 seconds i don't think it's worth it i i don't think that's where your values
01:08:20.080or your your strong characteristics for with relationships i mean if we forgot one question
01:08:26.880we forgot one follow-up question how good looking are they how good looking are the person with the
01:08:38.800opposite political beliefs a lot of people say that but they'll put it aside when they see how
01:08:44.320good looking yeah especially guys you know if the girl's like a a high mid a lot of these sides will
01:08:50.400will start to simp and be like yeah i'm gonna go to the women's march or just clouded do you
01:08:55.760Do you see how many hot girls bang Destiny?
01:16:52.720Basically wasted his whole life with her.
01:16:57.360Sounds like he didn't do a good job vetting her.
01:17:02.220It sounds like he didn't do a good job vetting her.
01:17:05.720you know well they met in a different state in in grad school and then when they moved to dc you
01:17:13.800know she started her friend group completely changed so about six six years in to the
01:17:19.720relationship four years into the marriage is when she dropped the bomb like no kids and then he he
01:17:25.820wasted the next six seven years trying to change her mind now i say if you guys if you want kids
01:17:32.120you're with a chick and she says no kids you can't convince you just get out period that's
01:17:37.400the one thing that you can't compromise on and well i would say politics two things right but
01:17:43.400i would say that when he started seeing signs he should have kind of bowed out earlier you know so
01:17:49.880yeah because we had said how impressionable that women are so once their their entire friend group
01:17:55.240change changes to more blue-haired septum ring pierced chicks it was just cooked that's that
01:18:00.360Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of people get fooled. A lot of men get fooled because a lot of these women, especially in the Hispanic community, they come off as as conservative, but really they're covert feminists.
01:18:12.340You know, as it turns out, you know, a few years later, a few kids later, you know, they they promote divorce, you know, and they need that that child support and that alimony.
01:18:23.620yeah it's the yes queen culture latinos are very susceptible to the yes queen and you go girl
01:18:30.260yeah um well here here's how i see it like uh from what i've seen in my family it's like
01:18:40.820they innately have the software or the hardware to be good women but they are very susceptible
01:18:46.020to ratchet culture they're very susceptible to you go girl stuff but the thing is uh that's why
01:18:53.700they kind of stopped dating latinos because latinos come from very conserved catholic families
01:18:58.820and they don't really deal with that stuff so they date other races because they're they want
01:19:03.060to be that they look at they look at uh white women and black women are like i want to be that
01:19:08.100because it looks better because being latina is like you gotta serve your husband you know it's
01:19:13.620very ingrained in the culture but all right guys i gotta go but nice talking to you guys i'll talk
01:19:17.840to you guys later thanks profiling me on thanks for coming yeah i mean he's right though that's
01:19:24.460why kosh sing's wife's online right now talking about popping her pussy i mean they can only stay
01:19:29.800so conservative for so long you know it's too boring such bad marketing for the indian women
01:19:34.740i feel like indian women have generally had pretty good marketing at this point yeah i mean
01:19:39.460white women have kind of ruined our marketing with like the like transition kids and like the
01:19:45.620liberal feminine you know but indian women haven't had a real l in the media black women don't need
01:19:50.900to say more um you know but indian women they had decent marketing till now now it's over i mean like
01:20:00.160when i did my interviews i think that's one of the number one races that i would hear like um
01:20:05.020the divorce rate mentioned it's like oh go to india they don't have divorce um but now it used
01:20:11.420to be cooked it used to be latinas until nuke just ruined it for everybody
01:20:19.260no the jigs up on the latinas they've seen what happened to selena gomez they get fat men will
01:20:24.940forgive a lot but they won't forgive oh and also giselle's brazilian that counts as latino so
01:20:29.820giselle yeah you know yeah i mean latina's i just i i can't think of any indian woman that's like
01:20:36.860been terrible marketing before this i can't think of one mandy kindly i don't know isn't she she's
01:20:44.620there no nia khalifa is a middle eastern okay okay i'm gonna go around the panel i want i wouldn't
01:20:51.100know i'm gonna do aaron spirit um uh dating without the rotten people jesse wait you if your brother
01:21:03.260or or a man close to you comes to you and says i want to propose to this woman and she's a raging
01:21:10.700liberal okay give me like 45 seconds to a minute and tell me what would you say to this guy that
01:21:17.420that you cared about who is about to get on one knee and marry this liberal crazy person how would
01:21:23.780that conversation go aaron go ahead i would basically say you're about to ruin your life
01:21:28.400by marrying someone who's parasitic and doesn't want to work who is not capable of love because
01:21:35.260she is woke or leftist or whatever and her her god her ideology is uh not you it is other people
01:21:44.740randos kids immigrants criminals anyone else but you and you cannot form a relationship with that
01:21:51.560person because frankly they're inhuman because they are not capable of respecting other people's
01:21:56.980life and time and money and me being a misanthrope i just walk away at that because i've learned to
01:22:03.500be a stoic and not stop people when they're making mistakes because they're gonna make
01:22:06.460him anyway so that'd be my 45 second pitch okay i'm very stoic myself i would definitely not chime
01:22:16.200in in this situation but given the force of having to chime in with the situation yeah definitely
01:22:21.280um she's a narcissist she's going to make a lot of decisions for you and if that's what you want
01:22:29.280to lean into go forward but that's what's going to happen but that's about it 30 seconds 10
01:22:36.140sorry that's all i really have she's yeah i'd say do it because you're gonna do it anyway
01:22:43.020i'm in this deep with the she's gluck gluck three thousand she's doing something i don't know what
01:22:48.560but she's doing something right so um i'd say you might as well just do it um but i would get a
01:22:55.080prenup best way to learn to learn is from your own mistakes i just i you know i'm kind of with
01:23:28.740yet. Your job's not finished, brother.
01:23:30.700i would say like i said at the beginning of the panel you know a woman will take on the world
01:23:35.740views of the man that she's in love with so if my brother is conservative she's not ready for that
01:23:41.660ring bro she's not you got you got to continue to reprogram her from the netflix programming
01:23:48.060so i would say hey man i know you like her but but job's not finished bro you got to keep it going
01:23:53.260hold off on the ring tell her no okay men this is where men get in trouble they and like you can
01:23:59.660have good intentions like he's a nice guy he wants to be kind to his partner so he says yes
01:24:05.420to everything but women crave being told told no and it's actually a great test to see if they
01:24:11.740deserve marriage right can they handle being told no or if they don't get their way one time then
01:24:17.660hits the fan yeah let's uh let's shift the word marriage to assets right do they deserve assets
01:24:26.060i think we thought about it like that we would shift our perspective but also for the record
01:24:30.540if i become good friends with all of you and and you come you see me doing something like that
01:24:35.020please shoot me in the head just don't let me actually do it all right um the first thing i
01:24:39.980would do though it's it's something that was covered earlier on that's really important
01:24:44.140vetting is a two-step process all right in order to be able to vet you have to earn the vetting
01:24:49.500right right so the first thing i would ask him is like how many other women have you been with
01:24:54.380because if he's willing to do that mistake he probably hasn't been with many women
01:24:58.380um he doesn't know how they operate probably so i'd start there it'd be five seconds and get
01:25:02.620the conversation going so i could convince him not to do that if i truly cared about him okay
01:25:10.220can i ask something or are we gonna i just i suppose like the yeah i was just wondering
01:25:17.100as far as like the vetting goes is there any like necessity like as far as like dating in general
01:25:21.900where you feel like that that's your obligation or i mean like is that why you feel the need to
01:25:27.660waste the time or is that just it's not a waste of time it's not a waste of time at all it's the
01:25:32.380best investment a man can make okay men men get better with experience right that's why older men
01:25:37.180are more attractive right a young man who has never had any experience in the world is worthless
01:25:43.420right and the same thing goes with women so it's one thing back in the day was different because
01:25:48.060you you had guidance right from your family like oh this is a good woman right um there's protection
01:25:53.740here and there that guidance is gone it's no longer existent so we have to seek that guidance
01:25:58.140on our own and a man has to go out into the real world and learn what's actually proper with women
01:26:03.260what works what doesn't how he so he doesn't get fooled in the long run so it's not a waste of
01:26:07.900time in any way shape or form now i'm not saying go sleep with every girl you meet right but get
01:26:13.100Get an idea of how they behave before you get down to one knee.
01:26:17.500So I wanted to ask, so, you know, we have guys out here who are trying to build themselves up, you know, using all their bandwidth to make themselves better.
01:26:29.140how much is too much when it comes to vetting because like is there a such should a guy know
01:26:37.120how have like a set criteria as to how much time and how much effort before he starts going out
01:26:43.880there to vet is there a such thing as too much like if a woman's a liberal raging feminist
01:26:48.940but she's high how much time should a guy put into trying to change this woman how much time
01:26:55.020an effort. Just enough to hit it and then bounce.
01:39:26.040So when she talks about stories about her friends and, like, what her friends do and how her friends are behaving, that's a huge red flag because if her friend has done it, she's probably done it too, right?
01:39:37.260So always take a notice at how her friends behave and how she's behaving with her friends and how she talks about her friends, the crazy stories they've done.
01:39:45.340They could indirectly tell you what they've done through those.
01:39:47.920fun stories okay uh spiritually well i've definitely never dated a liberal woman but
01:39:59.660uh i know um from my separation um my my ex he was my ex-husband he was definitely a more
01:40:07.800oppressionable person um and didn't have that strong backbone so definitely definitely need
01:40:15.700somebody who has a strong backbone and has their own beliefs but you should definitely let somebody
01:40:20.680reveal themselves in dating but i i definitely don't i don't think that you could definitely i
01:40:28.240i know for a fact that i'd never date a liberal man man because i don't really think that they
01:40:32.760truly exist i think a lot of that is performative so that's my only take as far as dating liberals
01:40:40.420i don't really have a whole lot of input besides that unfortunately i just don't i don't date crazy
01:40:48.020strong opinionated people have you could i ask you this have you ever tried like going on a date
01:40:52.440with a liberal and then just telling them that you're conservative to see if they switch be like
01:40:56.240oh yeah actually you know what it's not that bad and try to like pander out to you i tend to not
01:41:02.220date so much anymore because i'm a lot more reserved because of how polarized people are
01:41:07.280and i tend to just kind of stay away from that uh i i would definitely pull that on somebody i mean
01:41:13.120i know that i'm pretty abrasive with my points of view i used to have a channel where it talked
01:41:17.440about my views all the time so i don't do that so much anymore i kind of got a little bit quiet
01:41:22.640um just maybe you should so you could start saving one liberal man at a time i you know
01:41:29.200i have been shadow bans because i'm so um anti a lot of the things going on right now
01:41:37.120what we won't talk about because that's not the topic so that's just why i've been a little bit
01:41:41.360quiet but i'm definitely a vocal person when it comes to my beliefs i'm a woman i mean at the end
01:41:47.280of the day whether you're a liberal or a conservative woman uh you're a woman you're
01:41:52.080going to be strongly opinionated that's just kind of how it is and i think i think your best bet i
01:41:57.200do want to give the advice like like uh i'm sorry i'm not sure what uh your name is um but you were
01:42:02.960the one talking about vetting um definitely let them reveal themselves uh in the first few dates
01:42:09.760because that will save you a lot of time and trouble and arguments because when you aren't
01:42:16.000good at that type of questioning and trying to you know get the right information you're gonna
01:42:21.200spark some type of uh debate with a very loud opinionated woman and um that might put a sour
01:42:27.840taste in your mouth in the future so just kind of be level-headed and smart about your your questions
01:42:35.280when you when you do do that it's already happened don't and i always say i always say
01:42:45.040i always say guys do not do not afraid to ghost these women dude i'm mr ghosts seriously just
01:42:51.680ghost them don't argue with them don't try to prove any point just ghost them
01:42:56.160i mean i love going online and seeing oh guys ghost and it's terrible and blah blah blah guys
01:43:02.120just go you don't have the time to to explain a woman why you you don't want to because women
01:43:08.380want closure even when you go out with them on one day or two dates a relationship i mean they
01:43:14.580want closure don't give it to them just ghost them don't even tell them what they said to turn
01:43:21.060you off just leave and don't talk to them again i actually asked the girl once i was like do you
01:43:25.980would you prefer for me to go see her tell you the truth and she's like could you tell me the truth
01:43:29.900and i told her the truth and i from that point forward i decided i'm never going to tell them
01:43:34.580the truth ever again there you go what did you they don't like the truth what did you don't
01:43:40.000wait what did you say i was like it was actually i posted on my instagram story or something along
01:43:45.500the lines that hey it's just like i think you're great i always started like yo i think you're
01:43:50.820great but um it's just not a good long-term partnership and i don't even think i'm i thought
01:43:55.980i was ready for a relationship but i actually i'm not ready for relationship so i didn't even give
01:43:59.360her the whole thing and i had to bring to the case that she kind of grew up with no dad and i was
01:44:04.920like and i don't want to show you what like you know what a true you know masculine figure is in
01:44:11.160your life i think that's too much work for me at this moment so i'll just kind of like go from there
01:44:15.040i really have to chime in here between these two i'm sorry but can you please just take one for
01:44:19.720the team of women we don't there's so many strong vocal women can you just every once in a while
01:44:28.120put your two cents in just because they probably need to hear from somebody yeah i mean you don't
01:44:33.720have to do it every single time because it's not going to work out let's be real but if you put
01:44:39.800that in the back of their mind it would be better for us too because i don't get along with most
01:44:45.480women because okay okay panel panel ghosting yes or no aaron go ahead and start dirty rotten people
01:44:54.920dating without ghosting what do you think men ghosting men ghosting uh no if you if you said
01:45:01.160you're showing up on the date you show up on the date that's just basic no but i'm talking if you
01:45:05.400go out on a date and everything's going along and then you just don't want to talk to her anymore
01:45:10.280you know you show up yeah you have integrity stuff but like let's say you know you go on a
01:45:15.660couple dates and then she says something and then you just you pay the bill you stop talking to her
01:45:19.620yeah you do not owe her any more of your time no one knows yeah and you don't have to follow
01:45:24.340up with closure or i didn't like no you absolutely ghost and if if i wanted to be retributive i
01:45:29.580rarely had girls give me closure or anything like that so no gloves are off ladies we're
01:45:35.060going to start treating you like you've treated us. So you see how you like it for a couple of days.
01:45:38.500Who do we learn it from? Right? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
01:45:42.920Okay. Jerry Rotten people, go ahead. Oh, I'm pro ghosting, man, all the way, dude.
01:45:47.980Yeah. Yeah. All the way. To be honest with you, I try to run all my dates off like as quick as I
01:45:56.440possibly can because I've kind of gotten to the point where like I consider my successes to be
01:46:49.040No, I mean, if she made it to the meeting the parents phase, man, she must be something special.
01:46:55.420She must be something special, man, because I'm not a get-past-the-first-date kind of guy.
01:47:01.800But, yeah, I mean, you know, but, yeah, still pro-ghosting all the way.
01:47:05.860Like, if the food's good enough on our first date to where I actually stick around and eat, then, yeah, you know, I'll ghost her afterwards, I guess.
01:48:17.200The most crazy radical political beliefs.
01:48:20.140I have a question for Dirty Rotten People. Guys, we know that we're going to ease up. We have fundamental foundational views, but we're not going to be living this super red pill craziness in a relationship. I would think that it's better to overshow and kind of pull back as you get to know a woman than undershow and then find out later your views.
01:48:47.580Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I think that's where most people go wrong is that they themselves, they don't go on the first date.
01:48:54.500The representative does. You know, I think I think put all that I think put your worst foot forward right off the gate.
01:49:00.980You know, yeah, no, no, no wasting any time, dude. Like, look, I'm not I'm not hard up enough anymore to where like I'm that desperate to get laid.
01:49:09.080Like, I don't I don't care, dude. I'm not I'm not wasting my time, bro. Fuck it.
01:49:13.940Jesse, what do you think about ghosting?
01:49:17.580um about what they're saying about showing too much on the first date you coach guys so
01:49:22.100and ghosting yeah um it's actually funny i teach guys not to show anything on the first date
01:49:27.380because the way women operate it's like they will look at you they perceive you however they want
01:49:34.000to perceive you they're into you they will justify the attraction to you right and so a lot of times
01:49:39.140on the first date or the second date women are like wait a second i don't know anything about
01:49:43.340you jesse right or for my clients i don't know anything about these guys like tell me more about
01:49:46.640you but by that time i already figured out everything about them right so it's kind of
01:49:51.120like a game of chess really um and you're trying to say as little as possible to learn as much as
01:49:56.800possible when it comes to this type of stuff pearl always tells me doug and pa why do you keep
01:50:03.520talking so much on dates why don't you just shut up and get laid how many stories have i told you
01:50:11.200for how many stories i know i'm like don't you you're already on the date or you want to get laid
01:50:18.800okay what's the most other things that you tell a woman on the day what's the one that's gotten
01:50:26.000most women to be like whoa wait a second if you don't mind me sharing what do you mean yeah well
01:50:31.840i mean it's especially if it's like a single mother you know uh because my thing is like i'm
01:50:36.800not completely against dating single mothers but if she is first five minutes first uh uh first date
01:50:43.440uh we gotta address uh that elephant in the room uh i'm basically i'm gonna have to let her know
01:50:48.640that you know i will uh be inflicting as much physical pain on her child as i uh as i see fit
01:50:55.680in order to undo all the damage that she probably did to it because she probably she probably
01:51:00.240fucked him up or her jesus christ man it's a child um
01:51:09.520uh yeah i don't know about that i think you're on your own on that one brother
01:51:15.040i know i i love eating in peace i don't think so um yeah i don't i don't think i've ever said
01:51:22.000i think outrageous on the first date uh i i usually ask a woman what her most um
01:51:29.760controversial political well opinion is and see what she says and yeah i've heard some pretty
01:51:37.920crazy stuff i said on the first date and then oh yeah they're they don't have shame men men have
01:51:46.000shame we're too scared to like tell people what we think for some reason uh women they just bust
01:51:50.000that's a wide open or you know what when you're having these like deep talks it's not like about
01:51:57.280politics i just think it's not that flirty you know what i mean it's not like yeah like what
01:52:03.400do you say exactly like when you go in and she's like oh i'm a single mother do you just go like
01:52:07.840i'm gonna beat this shit out of your child like what do you like what do you actually say i am
01:52:11.840legitimately curious i mean yeah i mean i mean probably more like word for word like uh you know
01:52:18.300when i when i said it the first time you know that's that's pretty much that's pretty much
01:52:22.540like my line you know uh you know without a doubt you screwed up your kid i mean not without a doubt
01:52:28.320you know more than likely i've seen some single mothers that are surprising but uh for the most
01:52:33.700part their kids are brats and uh i'm i'm not putting up with that bullshit so it's either
01:52:38.980first date do what when was the last time you had a successful first oh successful first date
01:52:47.000You know, to be honest with you, dude, most of my first dates, probably, yeah.
01:52:59.980I mean, if you consider it to be successful, you know, I smashed.
01:53:03.720But, I mean, like, they weren't really traditional dates.
01:53:05.960They were more like we met and we fucking smashed and when they just kind of stayed together.
01:53:16.320i don't i don't i don't really date anymore so okay that's yeah i it's not on the first date
01:53:24.960or the second day for the third day but usually before i get serious with a woman especially in
01:53:29.320the area i live in right now i ask him about their debt especially student loan debt
01:53:34.500in the area i live in women are getting crushed by their debt and so you have to have that
01:53:42.000conversation sooner rather than later because in my opinion a woman's debt is a reflection
01:53:47.660of their decision-making process or lack thereof but you can tell a lot about a woman by how much
01:53:52.840debt they're in big time so and then one last question i guess um big dating without kind of
01:54:04.780answer this earlier but i'm just gonna go around the table do you believe that women change their
01:54:10.040Political beliefs, if you're that guy, Aaron, spiritually, dating with Al, Jesse, if you want to reiterate and then dirty rotten people, go ahead.
01:54:40.040okay spiritually go ahead yeah um i mean like i said at the beginning of the panel women are
01:54:48.020very impressionable so like i said before to you just let them reveal themselves and you can
01:54:53.460honestly groom most women into being better people that takes a lot of time and effort though it's
01:54:59.360like what your willingness is and how deep they are in in that mindset too so if that's your boat
01:55:06.200you want to sell go ahead but at the end of the day you're probably going to have to groom somebody
01:55:11.400to be your partner and they're going to have to groom themselves to be your partner as well so
01:55:16.760it takes a little give and take okay i know that um my aunt she's super super duper liberal and
01:55:26.040her husband's super conservative it doesn't always work but sometimes it does it's just how old are
01:55:30.680they though um they're they're much older so there you go there yeah so yeah younger
01:55:37.800not so much it's we we're a lot more polarized in our youth nowadays because
01:55:48.280oh yeah you know i gave my stance on this of course they will a woman will take on the belief
01:55:53.560system of the man that she's in love with to take it a step further i think to all the young men
01:55:58.840out here it's it's our responsibility as americans as patriots to date these women right most women
01:56:05.800aren't super politically inclined they're just default liberal just because everything around
01:56:11.160them has the same message right their netflix account their instagram blah blah blah they're
01:56:17.000default liberal so it's our job to date them and then deprogram them from the state and reprogram
01:56:23.080them to more sane political beliefs so so i just want to say you say that most women aren't deeply
01:56:29.800political but the problem is they get surface level politics from tick tock though how do you
01:56:34.280deal with that because they're not super political but they have an opinion on some of these because
01:56:39.480of social media so how do you deal with that you just like anybody else just have a frank
01:56:44.520conversation and logical debates i think a great one to begin with is just the whole gender debate
01:56:52.280like if you want to talk about your future with a woman and say oh you want kids right i want kids
01:56:57.320too that's great well say if we have a little girl so they relate more do we want to dress
01:57:03.720her up as a girly stuff pink bows and stuff and the cute little dresses or how are we going to
01:57:10.280dress them up what toys are we going to buy them and then they're going to think like hopefully a
01:57:15.400light bulb goes off and a flitch is sweating like yeah you know what my little girl i do want to
01:57:19.880to dress her up in in cute little outfits so i i think starting with an easy win like the gender
01:57:25.940debate is is a good tactic so i can if you could clarify your position you're telling us that to
01:57:32.660save america we have to sleep with these women uh yes well okay good just want to make sure okay
01:57:40.840good yeah we're here to save america all right really quick them have children with them
01:57:48.280But it's it's more like flipping them because I think we all saw, you know, how they voted this last election, like overwhelmingly to the left.
01:57:58.140Right. I don't know what exact number was, but we have work to do as men.
01:58:02.980If she if she doesn't register as a Republican right in front of me, it's all facade.
01:58:06.640OK, so I will say, though, if you aim to deprogram a woman, you're going to aim for failure.
01:58:12.060i would leaning lean into the grooming and the cleaning aspect versus just trying to be abrasive
01:58:18.860and change your change your mind because you're going to get a combative woman i'm just that was
01:58:23.660my only two cents for that sorry go ahead yeah changing her tiktok algorithm is definitely
01:58:28.780probably the hardest thing um you could probably hire probably like an indian for like five bucks
01:58:33.500to just solely scroll and engage with conservative memes and reels and that could probably work to uh
01:58:40.380to change your feed but um outside of that the real problem with women is that feminism now is
01:58:47.100so strong in these women groups so you have like you know four chicks trying to figure it out all
01:58:53.020together and it's obviously not working and so you could maybe flip one right but if the other three
01:58:59.500are always going to overpower with their liberal ideas and those group chats it just makes it
01:59:04.140really really difficult so yeah i agree it's going to be a team effort for everyone
01:59:08.140to flip these women around you have to sleep with them i don't think you have to sleep with them but
01:59:12.580you definitely have to be attractive enough so they could start changing their ideology of what
01:59:18.740a quality man is i think i think that we kind of pick whoever the best looking like conservative
01:59:24.960or liberal commentator is like i feel like more young women are conservative now i'm like like
01:59:31.640i've noticed like there's more trump supporters now um amongst like young white women and i think
01:59:38.200it's because trump's more attractive than biden just like just like as a person i think more
01:59:46.840like charismatic for sure yeah i love pearl davis defender of men how she destroyed lila rose my
01:59:54.580catholic sister yeah look i've been telling you i grew up around conservative catholic white women