Pearl - September 21, 2025


PART ONE: Destiny Reveals Something We Already Knew: HE IS DERANGED!


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14 minutes

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Word Count

2,761

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1

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

6


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In honor of the memory of slain YouTuber Charlie kirk, I m joined by my good friend and long time conservative commentator, to discuss the recent events surrounding the murder of Charlie Kirk, and what we should do about it.

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00:00:00.000 um destiny you've been quite active on social media since charlie kirk's death when erica kirk
00:00:08.080 posted uh charlie's coffin you responded she tagged him brackets crying face emojis
00:00:15.600 in response to alina habber's tweet ordering people to fly their flags a half mast in memory
00:00:20.480 of charlie you posted on x buying flags and poles just to fly them fully erect and you then posted
00:00:27.360 yesterday ending every conservative debate caller i do in 2026 with don't dodge bro that's not what
00:00:34.240 charlie would have wanted um i mean do you think that your response to the cold-blooded murder
00:00:40.240 of charlie kirk has been appropriate yes i think that the only way this country moves forward into
00:00:47.200 a better world is when conservatives can finally realize that they need to turn the temperature
00:00:51.360 down on their side we are oh my gosh i'm gonna crash out he said conservatives need to turn the
00:00:58.720 temperature down on our side after we just had a political not even not even a politician
00:01:07.600 but a youtuber gets shot in the neck
00:01:10.400 what is wrong with this man what on earth 10 years into whatever this trump madness is
00:01:20.560 and there is not a single mainstream conservative that will call for a lowering of the temperature
00:01:25.280 on their side i think that liberals need to wake up and finally realize that if they're not willing to
00:01:30.080 do it it will never come down if you wanted charlie kirk to be alive donald trump shouldn't have been
00:01:34.880 president for the second term every time he's in office this happens people joked about when biden
00:01:39.840 came in it was so boring nothing was going on seven out of ten of the largest protests in american
00:01:45.040 history have happened under donald trump all of the recent political violence that's happened in
00:01:49.600 this country over the past 20 years the majority of it the overwhelming majority of it everybody gets
00:01:53.840 mad because they keep asking grok about it has been conservative who shot charlie kirk a guy from utah
00:02:01.200 who was raised in a christian family who was a 22 year old guy described he wasn't a destiny he didn't have
00:02:06.800 a trans girlfriend he didn't have any trans influences he didn't have any trans bullets yeah
00:02:10.960 i'm sorry you guys were wrong on all of that to be clear the governor of utah spencer cox has made it
00:02:16.080 clear that their investigation has now established that he had been radicalized by a leftist ideology
00:02:22.480 which drove him to do this that's just i'm sorry excuse me when yesterday he said that the governor
00:02:29.040 no no no when was he radicalized in the six months did he that he did remote college i don't know when
00:02:33.360 he was radicalized but i do know what you just said i do know the very reasonable founding governor
00:02:37.760 of utah has made it clear that the event you may not want to hear this ongoing investigation you may
00:02:43.440 not want to hear it destiny but the reality is the investigators according to the governor of utah
00:02:49.120 have established that he was radicalized to a leftist ideology that drove him to murder charlie kirk
00:02:56.320 now let me just ask you that's just not true let me just ask you there's no way to deal with it
00:03:01.280 he has texts released with his trans roommate i mean this is the thing liberal men gaslight you
00:03:08.640 just as bad as women do you know it's bad when anna kasparian is the boy voice of reason
00:03:17.120 that's your prerogative but but if it turns out to have been somebody with a leftist ideology
00:03:23.040 who wanted to shut up charlie kirk would you condemn that i won't condemn anything until the
00:03:28.480 president of the united states can go on air and say you have got to be kidding me he won't condemn
00:03:35.520 somebody being shot in the neck like now he's going to change the topic what is wrong with you
00:03:42.240 these people are always into such weird things all of us need to calm down so you won't condemn the
00:03:48.320 murder of charlie kirk until donald trump says something i'm a youtuber leftists and and democrats
00:03:54.960 have been condemning and turning down the temperature condemning violence turning the
00:03:57.760 temperature for a decade donald trump can't go on tv and say all of us need to calm down right can you
00:04:03.680 tell me why he cannot why would you expect anybody destiny you can't answer that can you answer that
00:04:08.720 question can you answer this question all of us should be less violent why do you think say that
00:04:13.760 why is your behavior contingent on donald trump right now why is your behavior contingent on
00:04:19.840 donald trump let me ask a question because he's the president of the united states of america and
00:04:23.440 the leader of the destiny destiny let me what are you a child
00:04:31.840 i have a huge audience of young men who listen to everything you have to say so when you it doesn't
00:04:38.560 matter you have a huge audience and because of the fact that you have a huge audience you have a
00:04:43.680 responsibility to not turn no it hasn't it hasn't been broken i actually care about the country and
00:04:50.240 want to bring people together you do the opposite you represent the worst of us destiny you're
00:04:55.280 violent you should tell them all right let me ask you a question hang on don't all shout out once
00:05:01.280 please if donald trump would have come out destiny we should all be less violent i have no problems i
00:05:05.600 have one question for you destiny conservatives do that why can't conservatives do that destiny
00:05:09.680 i have a question for you do you ever feel like there's too much to do but you don't have enough time
00:05:15.920 meet super ninja why do you think in your campaign for everyone to dial down the temperature why do you
00:05:22.960 think that mocking the grieving widow of charlie kirk when she posts an image of her at the coffin
00:05:30.800 side why do you think that constitutes turning down the temperature you can't turn down the temperature
00:05:36.960 on your own the president of the united states you inflamed the temperature you're mocking his
00:05:43.040 i cannot believe he's saying to turn down the temperature after they're having they've had violent
00:05:49.280 protests violent riots and they just shot somebody in the neck i have never been more gaslit in my
00:05:57.360 life he's destroying himself we've had multiple political assassinations over the past year what
00:06:04.000 do you mean it's turning up the temperature why did you mock his widow online ever why did you mock his
00:06:08.560 widow she's because he's just not a nice person he is mean she's being used as a political weapon right
00:06:15.520 now conservatives to continue okay i won't lie i actually agree with him on the yeah about she's
00:06:21.440 being used as like a political thing but it's still just in poor taste i mean wow she's literally
00:06:28.000 doing her husband just got murdered on email yeah and she's using it to drive up recruitment and you
00:06:32.800 can't even condemn the murder you won't condemn it can't even tell his side you're so deranged
00:06:37.680 about trump you are you cannot condemn the murder because you're waiting for donald trump this is
00:06:43.040 what i mean when idiots get the most air time they just over talk everybody the smartest guys just
00:06:51.520 walk away and don't argue they just got better to do let me bring in let me bring in let me bring
00:07:00.160 in jack i gotta say there's still no answer to that question period you can't say which question donald
00:07:05.520 trump why can't donald trump simply it is crazy that the daily wire sat down with destiny and gave
00:07:12.000 him a softball debate and they would not have and this is a guy involved in alleged pedophilia i'm
00:07:19.600 not saying he did it i don't know but that's a pretty heavy allegation right and they won't have
00:07:25.840 nick f on they won't have rollo on it's actually crazy to be that they have this guy on but not the
00:07:33.440 other two go on tv and say we all need to turn it down like biden could like obama could like the
00:07:39.600 clintons like like comical why not why can't you condemn the murder of charlie kirk it's unbelievable
00:07:44.880 it's i'm not the president why can't you condemn the murder of charlie kirk unbelievable to me why
00:07:49.840 can't you drugs condemn the murder of charlie kirk because it wasn't my side that caused it it should
00:07:56.560 be yes it was driving it actually was your side that caused it it was your side this guy was raised
00:08:02.160 in a white christian he was a radicalized leftist ideology he wasn't radicalized by leftism at all
00:08:07.680 you have no proof of that whatsoever that's what the investigators are saying was a conservative just
00:08:12.080 like the people that fired by uh shapiro's house was a conservative just like all the j6ers were
00:08:16.160 conservative like the proud boys were conservative every single one of these every single one of these
00:08:20.800 people oh it's jack for so big what the author of unhuman another person that uh that uh charlie's
00:08:25.840 putting good one dude i'll give you one last chance destiny to condemn the murder of charlie kirk yes you are
00:08:30.320 acting like a non-human why can't i hear donald trump because you're against them violence all right
00:08:35.520 okay we've all heard we've all heard you repeatedly refused to get heard donald trump refused to get
00:08:41.040 jack for some reason the leftists on youtube are a bigger deal unbelievable yeah what's incredible is
00:08:46.080 you don't have the basic humanity to condemn it you'd rather taunt his widow i find that sickening
00:08:51.760 jack for so i find it sickening that when people are getting so crazy how the dumbest people get the
00:08:56.720 most airtime this is what i mean good behavior is not rewarded and i think if you go through life
00:09:03.120 expecting that good behavior is rewarded he's doing a terrible thing he's rewarded with a huge platform
00:09:09.360 and the most airtime on one of the biggest shows in the entire country
00:09:14.800 yeah we're gonna go nuts killed in the country the president united states on fox and friends when
00:09:18.720 they're begging him what do you say to your followers that want revenge he says i don't know all
00:09:22.480 the elections are rigged it's the radical democrats that's insane to me and then and then the fixation
00:09:27.760 is well who on twitter and youtube isn't condemning the violence milo get off the toaster okay sorry
00:09:34.000 i'm with you now that's okay all right katie you're there all right you have you have a great example
00:09:40.880 here of the type of cancer i'm talking about where when you present direct information they refuse they
00:09:47.600 obfuscate they refute they say it's not true they lie uh you could see from the bullet casings you
00:09:53.520 could see from postings you could see from everything out there that you know it's it's very clear what
00:09:57.840 happened here uh this is the same people who supported president trump almost getting assassinated
00:10:02.640 twice last year corey caputori being assassinated by conservatives in in a situation uh again see just
00:10:09.280 just lies that's all they do they talk over they don't even let you give a chance to speak and something
00:10:14.320 needs to be done peers something absolutely needs to be done this ideology should be shamed humiliated
00:10:19.680 driven from the public discourse i mean you've got people who have completely dissociated with
00:10:25.360 humanity because all they care about flicks and youtube streams and likes go go go to the casket
00:10:32.960 go to the grave site go talk to the widow you know i i i don't even know how to how to discuss this
00:10:38.480 with someone who's completely lost all touch with reality yeah i mean and that's jack's answer to
00:10:44.160 why why can't look how he's like over talking everyone it's just so rude presidents say we should
00:10:50.320 all be less violent right because you can't even condemn the cold because i don't think you're in
00:10:57.760 the position to demand anything from anybody on youtube that's how i'm gonna take my uh you're not
00:11:02.240 in any position to condemn anybody for anything you you won't condemn the cold bloody murder he deserves to
00:11:07.200 to have his kid be a grouper that would happen to him imagine this is your dad the united states
00:11:17.040 he's the president of the united states no one here can answer that basic humanity says the murder was
00:11:22.080 horrific why can't you say it to be less violent why can't you say it's destiny over a decade to say
00:11:27.520 the murder was horrific and unacceptable donald trump say it you can't do it any words for donald trump all
00:11:33.520 right annicus berrin nothing exactly annicus berrin this to me this is what i'm talking about that i
00:11:39.520 think there is an element of the left the hard woke left that have completely lost their minds
00:11:45.920 if you are not able to just outright simply condemn the murder of charlie kirk and if you cannot stop
00:11:52.800 yourself from mocking his grieving widow you are sick as i've just seen from destiny it's just the sick
00:12:00.320 thing is weaponizing a widow's grief to try to do recruitment for your political party that's
00:12:04.800 probably one of the most disgusting things i've ever said she's showing up in emails for recruitment
00:12:08.800 drives for tp usa destiny what did you think the assassination of a political figure would do
00:12:14.640 what did you think the outcome was going to be what did you think the outcome and by the way are you
00:12:20.080 asking really your behavior are you asking me for hey how about take it easy on the adderall take it
00:12:27.200 easy on the adderall and let me answer the question that pierce asked me you must have been really
00:12:30.800 bullied today my behavior is not reliant on how anyone else behaves every morning i wake up and i make
00:12:39.600 decisions about how i choose to react or respond to things i don't wake up in the morning check what
00:12:45.200 donald trump has to say and then base my own personal behavior on his behavior i agree with you
00:12:51.360 in that it would be very helpful to have the leader of this country want to turn the temperature down and
00:12:56.960 he hasn't done that i agree with you on that but that doesn't change the way i choose to respond to
00:13:02.080 what's going on the idea of mocking a woman who is now a widow with two young children who witnessed her
00:13:09.120 husband gets shot in the neck and bleed out to death what's wrong with you i just don't understand
00:13:15.520 it that's it i don't understand it i don't understand you destiny you have so much hatred
00:13:20.400 in your heart and at the same time it's such a simple thing if you're going to weaponize somebody's
00:13:25.120 grief against the other party well then of course people have a right to fight back against it i think
00:13:28.960 that she has every right to grieve in whatever way she wants but when that grief is going to be
00:13:33.040 weaponized to do what is wrong with this person what is wrong with him recruitment political
00:13:38.320 recruitment and further radicalization of the other side then of course you not only have
00:13:42.560 the ability to market i think you have the obligation to market it's insane let me understand
00:13:47.280 let me understand your argument so since others are using her grief to politically recruit you think
00:13:53.600 that it's okay to mock her specifically since others are using her grief she's the one who gave a 17
00:14:00.160 minute speech on tv where she talked about good versus evil she's the one showing up in tp usa ads
00:14:05.520 to one or two days after if someone assassinated my husband if someone assassinated my husband
00:14:12.080 i would not be able to have the level of composure she had during that speech i would be out for blood
00:14:19.760 i understand why she's angry and why she said the things that she said okay you need to understand what
00:14:26.000 being a human is what it's like to actually lose someone that you love that you chose to spend your
00:14:31.520 life with how the hell is anna kasperian the voice of reason on this panel
00:14:46.080 you