Pearl - March 22, 2025


Pearl Claps Back at Matt Walsh's Wife’s RIDICULOUS Take on Marriage ｜ Pearl Daily


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Length

10 minutes

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Word count

1,915

Sentence count

149

Harmful content

Misogyny

9

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Toxicity

11

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Hate speech

12

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Summary

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Matt Walsh's wife Alyssa Walsh joins me on the show to talk about why conservative men don't wait to get married until their 30s, and why women should be expected to wait until their 40s to have sex.

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00:00:00.000 I get a lot of flack for saying my opinions, and sometimes my opinions do not make me popular, okay?
00:00:07.900 I say what I'm thinking, and sometimes there's such a backlash that I wonder, maybe I should bend a little bit.
00:00:17.720 Maybe I should lie a little more, but I just don't have it in me, and especially not when it comes to traditional conservatives.
00:00:24.860 Because guys, my background is I went to Catholic school, and I saw all of the manipulation tactics that traditional conservatives use to get you to do what you want, to get you.
00:00:36.000 You know, they have an ego-invested belief in you joining their religion, so they have no problem lying to you to get there.
00:00:42.540 And one of the biggest lies that I see is conservative men oftentimes pretend like they're in patriarchal relationships where they run their households.
00:00:52.020 And it's just very obvious that they're not.
00:00:55.100 Now, look, I'm not even saying that patriarchy, a patriarchal relationship is the way that you should do it.
00:01:01.900 You guys are grown men.
00:01:03.000 I say live how you want.
00:01:04.820 I don't care.
00:01:05.780 I mean, if you guys want to go date a woman that's 60 years old, and you're 30, and you want to go for the cougar, I don't care. 0.84
00:01:14.060 Do you know what I mean?
00:01:14.580 I do not.
00:01:15.440 It does not matter to me. 0.55
00:01:17.120 If you guys want to go get henpecked by your wives 24-7, go do it. 1.00
00:01:22.020 If you guys want to go date hot 20-year-olds, if you want the 35-year-old girl that's trying to stick the land, I mean, you can do whatever. 0.94
00:01:30.060 But so it's just become normal, and it drives me nuts.
00:01:33.220 There's so many great men that accept their women being so disrespectful to them in public and subtly.
00:01:42.040 So I really have been looking forward to this episode, and the reason being is I grew up around women like this.
00:01:48.420 I really did.
00:01:49.460 And yeah, so I'm going to get into it.
00:01:51.040 So we are going to talk about how women are supposed to be traditionally helpmates to their husbands, but oftentimes they do the exact opposite.
00:02:00.540 So I was on Twitter on X, and I came across Matt Walsh's wife, Alyssa Walsh.
00:02:07.680 Now, me and Alyssa, we do have a little bit of history.
00:02:10.620 So last year I had a tweet criticizing the institution of marriage and saying that the Daily Wire guys do not understand how bad marriage is because they're too young.
00:02:22.040 Because oftentimes men get screwed over in their 40s, early 40s, late 30s.
00:02:27.120 So sometimes it just takes a little bit of time.
00:02:29.480 Like Crowder got zeroed out in his 30s.
00:02:31.640 In his 20s, he had very similar talking points, right?
00:02:35.080 When Crowder was in his 20s, he pointed to marriage and family as the solution to everything.
00:02:41.280 Now he's in his 30s.
00:02:42.540 His wife got on 30k a month worth of child support.
00:02:46.840 He has a little bit of a more humble tune, right?
00:02:50.720 He's a little bit.
00:02:51.780 He came back and said, you know what, guys?
00:02:54.760 I might not have been right about that.
00:02:57.920 But remember, before Crowder got divorced, they had the perfect picture of a marriage.
00:03:03.340 Him and Hillary had articles written about how amazing their marriage was.
00:03:07.860 They waited till marriage in their late 20s.
00:03:10.580 They did it the right way.
00:03:11.840 However, now they're divorced just like the rest of us, right?
00:03:17.420 Now they've also failed just like the rest of us.
00:03:20.040 And the reason that this is deceptive is because oftentimes these guys are in terrible marriages
00:03:27.360 and they're not honest about it to their audience.
00:03:29.660 Or they use their marriage as a marketing ploy.
00:03:33.000 How many men did Crowder lead to slaughter because he pushed his waiting to...
00:03:38.760 Guys, if a woman makes you wait for sex, does she like you? 1.00
00:03:42.880 One in the chat if she likes you.
00:03:44.740 Two in the chat if you're wasting your time.
00:03:48.360 But so these guys, a lot of times what happens is they just don't have a lot of experience with women.
00:03:53.200 But the problem is they use this as marketing for their religion
00:03:56.340 because they really want their religion to be right, right?
00:03:59.120 That's what they want.
00:03:59.920 And by the way, I don't know.
00:04:02.840 I think Matt Walsh might be Catholic.
00:04:04.300 I'm Catholic too.
00:04:05.220 Like if I had to stake my bets in a church, in religion, I would bet the Catholics, right? 1.00
00:04:13.560 We would be on the same team.
00:04:15.500 But what I don't like is when people use their relationship as a way to virtue signal.
00:04:22.040 And then if I ask any questions about it, I'm apparently the bad guy.
00:04:27.640 I'm evil.
00:04:28.420 When you guys make it public to begin with.
00:04:31.400 Okay, so by the way, a year ago, she wrote this essay about me.
00:04:38.340 So I had a tweet questioning the institution of marriage.
00:04:41.980 And this is what they do.
00:04:43.120 You're so full of it.
00:04:44.440 She says, I shouldn't respond to you. 1.00
00:04:46.040 You're a grifter. 1.00
00:04:47.080 Insult one. 1.00
00:04:48.180 You're so full of it.
00:04:49.640 Insult two. 0.99
00:04:50.700 You're doing a disservice to conservatives and will likely find yourself a spinster
00:04:54.620 with a negative outlook on marriage that you were spewing in salt three.
00:04:58.560 It doesn't matter to these people that I'm, I'm one of 10 kids.
00:05:02.500 My parents have been married 30 years.
00:05:04.760 My parents are more trad than, and I'm not trad, right?
00:05:09.120 But they're more quote unquote trad than any of these people.
00:05:12.820 I mean, they started a business young.
00:05:15.020 And I don't even, like, they did the trad thing.
00:05:17.400 They had 10 kids when my mom was in her 20s, not her 30s.
00:05:21.580 Like, if I wanted to give trad off points, should I use my relationship as a marketing ploy?
00:05:27.640 Is that something I should do?
00:05:29.520 Is that, would that be, when I have, when I have children someday, should I use those
00:05:34.040 for the internet to prove that I'm right?
00:05:36.100 Is that what I should, is that the proper way to do it?
00:05:38.760 Maybe I should try it.
00:05:40.280 Okay.
00:05:41.400 You have no idea who we are.
00:05:43.320 You make assumptions because you see successful men expressing the positives about marriage
00:05:47.800 and having a family.
00:05:49.180 I think part of your issue is that they are men and not women promoting marriage.
00:05:53.920 And it doesn't sit well for you with a plethora of reasons and your own upbringing.
00:05:58.100 My upbringing was more trad than you people.
00:06:03.060 Okay.
00:06:03.640 All right.
00:06:04.640 An outlook that I could psychoanalyze all day.
00:06:07.960 This is crazy talk.
00:06:09.500 Like, this is insane.
00:06:11.520 I've never, like, this was my first interaction with the woman.
00:06:14.720 So this is what I mean.
00:06:16.400 The, the, and I want you guys to pay attention because the way these women react to me is 1.00
00:06:21.400 the way they react to their husbands.
00:06:22.960 Do you think, and I want to be honest, if she's insulting me for going after the institution
00:06:30.500 of marriage or asking a question about her Twitter bio, which I'm going to get to, do
00:06:35.320 you think she's nicer to her, to her husband? 0.87
00:06:38.460 Like, are we really going to, her husband, who is way more emotional, pull on her than
00:06:43.540 a stranger on the internet?
00:06:45.420 Though I, yeah, I'm supposed to just blindly trust them.
00:06:49.080 Okay.
00:06:49.780 By the way, by the way, Michael Knowles's wife, I've never seen her.
00:06:54.380 They kind of do the same thing, but she's not on the internet, like doing all this stuff.
00:07:00.020 I got nothing to go.
00:07:02.060 Okay.
00:07:02.800 Do you think when Matt and I got married, we had money?
00:07:05.640 Do you think Matt was wealthy at 25 and thinking, wow, I have so much money.
00:07:09.400 I don't care if I get married young and divorced at some point because I can bankroll a divorce.
00:07:13.540 Oh, that was the other thing.
00:07:14.980 I said, these guys have no idea what they're talking about because do you know what?
00:07:18.760 If they get divorced, they can pay for it. 0.55
00:07:22.100 That's the difference. 0.96
00:07:22.960 You know who gets screwed? 0.98
00:07:23.940 You know who gets screwed? 0.98
00:07:25.340 It's the blue collar workers. 0.96
00:07:26.860 It's the men that work for like 20 years, 25 years.
00:07:31.900 They get their pension and then their wife takes it and now they can't ever retire.
00:07:36.840 Like I spoke to a guy out of like, it was either Wyoming or Utah.
00:07:40.340 He had a traditional wife. 0.97
00:07:42.840 She worked for 25 years or sorry.
00:07:45.300 He worked for 25 years.
00:07:46.580 She stayed home with the kids.
00:07:48.340 She divorced him and guess what happened?
00:07:50.280 He has to delay retirement by 15 years and he's old.
00:07:55.000 He's like 60.
00:07:55.900 So now he's going to work till he dies because he made the decision to get a traditional wife. 1.00
00:08:02.900 Do you know what would have prevented that?
00:08:04.140 I told you guys last show, go make her put her to work because she got it because of alimony. 1.00
00:08:08.540 I told you guys the secret last show, put that chick to work. 1.00
00:08:13.060 Okay.
00:08:13.760 But you guys see, you guys see what I'm getting at.
00:08:16.540 Okay.
00:08:16.960 That was my point.
00:08:18.120 It wasn't really about her, but you know, again, she's like taking it, taking it personally.
00:08:24.020 It was never about her.
00:08:24.880 He and other conservative men aren't selling people on lies regarding marriage.
00:08:29.660 I hope, you know what?
00:08:31.440 You know what's crazy?
00:08:32.320 I gave them the benefit of the doubt.
00:08:34.160 I really did.
00:08:35.020 I said, they don't know because otherwise they're intentionally misleading young men.
00:08:42.880 It's one or the other.
00:08:43.980 You guys are either responsible for the one out of 50 divorce, one out of 50 men or will
00:08:50.960 commit suicide during a divorce.
00:08:52.960 Men are 10 times more likely to commit suicide.
00:08:55.700 So I gave you guys, I said, here is the benefit of the doubt.
00:09:00.300 You guys just don't know better.
00:09:02.040 Now she's saying, which one is it?
00:09:05.280 Okay.
00:09:05.800 All right.
00:09:06.100 Do you think only 12 years?
00:09:07.860 Okay.
00:09:08.160 Into his career, he's decided to be pro marriage.
00:09:10.980 He and other conservative men aren't selling people on lies regarding marriage.
00:09:15.000 They're a beacon of encouragement in this dumpster fire of a culture that promotes itself.
00:09:19.420 God forbid he shows the joys of marriage.
00:09:22.220 Even then, Matt isn't forcing anyone to get married.
00:09:25.660 Promoting marriage is not a form of assisted suicide.
00:09:28.260 Like you would know, lady, you're a marriage counselor.
00:09:31.420 Like you guys, if anything, the marriage counselors pull the trigger. 0.65
00:09:36.360 I mean, you guys are the ones that drive men crazy.
00:09:40.360 I mean, if anything, that is a terrible profession.
00:09:44.380 Terrible. 0.98
00:09:44.780 Those are evil people.
00:09:46.040 99% of the time.
00:09:47.420 Not, not, I, I know there's good ones.
00:09:50.360 And by the way, I have met very good ones, but if it's a woman, I mean, there is nothing 1.00
00:09:55.600 worse than you can do as a man and go to not all, not all, not all, not all a female marriage 1.00
00:10:00.820 counselor.
00:10:01.540 Okay.
00:10:02.220 So it's been 12 years and I haven't hugged two of my children in the chat.
00:10:06.940 Yeah.
00:10:08.180 Yeah.
00:10:08.480 And so do I get a little bit pissed off when these guys wave it with their, when I interview
00:10:14.000 the men that are very, like their lives are in ruins and these guys just say, no, no, no,
00:10:21.660 no, do it anyway.
00:10:22.460 Because of God, God will put a one in the chat.
00:10:26.940 If you've had a religious woman act in a way that was not religious at all. 0.69
00:10:33.440 One in the chat.
00:10:34.620 One in the chat.