Pearl - Pia Said She Was Happy At Any Size.....And Then Lost 150 lbs

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00:00:39.160 for those of you that don't know um because i know some of you guys are new viewers

00:00:43.240 i did a panel show in london so i went to england to play volleyball and i started a youtube show

00:00:51.480 and this rapidly became one of the biggest debate uh panel shows in the united states even though it

00:00:56.920 took place in london the rankings were like in the youtube um in the american youtube section

00:01:03.080 because it was american channel um and in the course of like a year and a half i think i debated

00:01:09.320 like six days a week and i just met all different kinds of people i met i can't i can't say the t

00:01:16.440 word on youtube i met liberal people i met conservative people um and i would do these

00:01:23.880 panel shows. And what I would try to do is I'd try to bring on two people with completely opposite

00:01:29.240 opinions. So we even did like vegans versus carnivores. It was so fun. Um, we did another

00:01:34.860 week and we did, um, like trans people versus like non-trans people, you know, talking about

00:01:41.040 that sort of stuff. And we just did a lot of fun stuff. But one day, um, we actually did a panel

00:01:46.660 and it was a body positivity panel.

00:01:49.940 And we basically brought on some fatties.

00:01:54.340 We brought on some fat people to debate about body positivity.

00:01:59.340 And if it was a good thing or a bad thing, I think was the topic at the time.

00:02:03.480 And it was the craziest thing.

00:02:05.540 I got a message the other day from one of the panelists.

00:02:09.460 And she actually said she lost 150 pounds.

00:02:12.600 I couldn't even believe it.

00:02:13.500 She looks like a new person.

00:02:14.420 um so today we're doing a check-in we got we're gonna have her back on and I'm curious I don't

00:02:21.440 know if she's still gonna be pro body positivity or anti I haven't talked to her at all yet so

00:02:26.680 I guess we're gonna see welcome to the show Pia hi I feel really nervous I don't know why

00:02:34.920 more nervous than I did in real life when we did this really oh don't be nervous let's chill

00:02:40.260 so um you have a lot of updates going on your life is completely different now since I last

00:02:47.660 talked to you right yeah so I lost 150 pounds I got married it was a whole thing but um yeah

00:02:55.740 things are things are good so it's nice awesome so okay how much did you weigh when you came on

00:03:02.320 is that okay if I ask you that how much you weighed when you came on versus now uh yeah I

00:03:07.440 175 175 pounds i wish i was 275 pounds i'm now 125 pounds oh my gosh okay so when did you start

00:03:18.400 losing the weight when you came on the show had you already made up in your mind that you were

00:03:22.400 gonna lose it because i don't know i was thinking about the calorie deficit you must have done you

00:03:28.000 must have been eating like 1200 a day calories um less so i did um like quite hardcore i i went back

00:03:36.640 and forth like dieting on off so when i was on the show i had tried to lose weight and been on off

00:03:41.120 trying to lose weight like a million people have yeah and then eventually i went to the doctor i

00:03:45.520 kept getting hospitalized for my asthma i have really really bad asthma and i'm skinny and i

00:03:48.880 still have really bad asthma um but i went to the doctor and they were like listen if you want to

00:03:53.760 lose weight fast like do an 800 calorie diet and just eat 800 calories for 12 weeks and we'll

00:03:58.640 monitor you and check your bloods and stuff and so i did that and then when i did that for so long

00:04:03.920 I just I it was so much easier to eat like 1000 1200 because I'd done 800 for so long and that

00:04:11.600 was so hard that when I sucked that and I could do it now going to the gym and doing all that stuff

00:04:15.960 is actually really easy because that was really hard those 12 weeks oh my god 800 cal were you

00:04:20.980 you must have been starving like oh yeah I was was that like all you thought about the whole day

00:04:27.440 um yeah I think it gets like a bit obsessive like I yeah I watched a lot of like tv shows

00:04:35.600 about weight loss and I got a bit like obsessive with it at that time to almost like an unhealthy

00:04:39.360 degree but it was like I couldn't think about anything else to to commit to it no do you know

00:04:44.380 but the problem is if you do like a short when you're that big if you do a small deficit it's

00:04:50.280 going to take you so long to lose the weight yeah and that's what and you know what I actually

00:04:54.980 yeah go ahead controversial opinion but i think a lot of people say like oh you need to do these

00:05:00.420 small deficits you need to just make little changes eat one biscuit instead of two

00:05:04.260 because they're selling diet plans that they want you to stay on for a long time

00:05:08.500 um that yeah i don't actually agree with that i think for a lot of people having that head start

00:05:13.460 and once i lost that i lost a lot of weight i don't know what it is in pounds i lost four stone

00:05:18.740 in those like initial 12 weeks which is a lot of weight to lose um i think that's 14 pounds in a

00:05:24.100 stone i'm sure someone in the chat can do that math um and so once i'd lost that weight like

00:05:28.980 there was so much motivation to keep going um whereas if i was just doing a small deficit which

00:05:34.340 i had been doing before and i just lost a little pound here or there it was so easy to just gain

00:05:38.580 that pound here they're back yeah because it's one thing if maybe you have 20 pounds to lose

00:05:44.100 you could argue that but like when you have a hundred and like 150 pounds you gotta lose you

00:05:49.620 you got to starve yourself. Do you know what? You don't have to. Sorry. Sorry. To me, you'd think

00:05:56.620 I would be the one who used to be 275. Because to me, I hear 800 calories. I'm like, I would starve.

00:06:03.600 I don't think I could do it. Like if I need 800 calories a day.

00:06:08.980 But you're sporty and I eat a lot more than that now because I go to the gym a lot. I do a lot of

00:06:14.020 cardio. I do a lot of weights. I do a lot of gym. But at the beginning, I did no gym. I just did

00:06:18.920 calorie deficit do you know it's crazy so i'd always been trying to lose like 20 pounds i don't

00:06:24.920 know what i weighed when i was on the show with you but i i lost 20 in the last few years and

00:06:30.120 that was always like the weight i was trying to get off and when i stopped working out i actually

00:06:35.880 lost more weight because yeah watching out makes you hungry yeah yeah you know no because it's that

00:06:42.760 and you have more time to cook and plan your meals and i feel like if you don't take the time to like

00:06:48.040 learn the nutrition i don't know if you had the same experience but for me it was like if you

00:06:52.520 don't take the time to learn the nutrition and even not even focus on the gym as much like

00:06:59.000 if you could do both if you have the time it's fine but if you don't like i i i think nutrition

00:07:04.040 is way more important yeah it's 70 nutrition if not more i think yeah yeah i agree okay so

00:07:11.160 you did an extreme sorry i'm gonna keep calling it extreme because to me it is other people may

00:07:16.600 may not feel like that but so you did 800 calories a day for how long 12 weeks okay but that was

00:07:23.680 monitored by my doctor I wouldn't recommend anyone to do that unless your doctor tells you and

00:07:27.140 monitors your bloods while you're doing it yeah you don't like what happens to people if they

00:07:31.040 don't have someone monitoring them do they like pass out or something oh well you need like your

00:07:35.600 iron levels checked and like just I don't know I had like my b12 because I'm vegetarian as well

00:07:40.480 so like they were just checking my bloods to make sure like I was still healthy and they were

00:07:44.460 checking my food diary and stuff to checking i was getting all my like nutrients in so i don't

00:07:48.860 i hate macros i find them so boring but i always focus on protein and fiber as a general rule of

00:07:54.040 thumb um but obviously when i was doing that diet i did have to count my macros because

00:07:58.140 you know it's so low that you need to how many grams of protein did you do in a day

00:08:03.620 like i'm not gonna lie i actually can't remember because they changed it quite a lot because it

00:08:07.940 was relative to my weight um but yeah these days I just you know like if I want like a snack or

00:08:15.360 something I'll have like a protein snack so I don't really think about it because I get a lot

00:08:19.960 quite naturally just from eating those kind of things okay so um how long did the whole weight

00:08:26.880 loss take was it like a year and a half yeah I think just under and how many hours did you like

00:08:34.920 like how much time like if someone's working a normal job um how much time can they expect to

00:08:41.980 spend a week trying to like take care of that like someone wants to lose that amount of weight

00:08:46.960 so i think anyone can do it with just diet it's when you introduce exercise that it gets really

00:08:52.340 hard um and obviously i wanted to introduce the reason i lost weight was for my health so i wanted

00:08:57.660 to introduce exercise because it's good for your heart health and for me i have asthma it's good

00:09:00.500 my cardiovascular as well as my lungs um and so i wanted to get my vo2 max up and things like that

00:09:06.420 um rather than just doing my diet that but in order for me to exercise i had to lose the weight

00:09:12.020 first um so that sort of all that nutrition came first and then i started exercising but i would

00:09:16.660 actually find it easier now to eat less if i didn't exercise because exercise does particularly

00:09:21.540 cardio makes you very hungry and what was some things that were keeping you fat before that you

00:09:26.580 you didn't really know like for me when i started tracking it it was like the goddamn sugar coffees

00:09:32.120 i was like i don't know what i was doing so yeah do you know it's this is the thing is that like

00:09:37.980 when i was fat nobody listened to me do but now they do is the medication i had to take for my

00:09:42.860 asthma made me pile on weight i had to take a medication i think it's called predizinalone

00:09:47.240 i'm sure some people will be seeing this and know what that is but it's a steroid that makes you

00:09:52.620 ravenously hungry and it got to a point where when I came off the predisolone I had gained so much

00:09:58.660 weight I just didn't care anymore because I was like well I'm never going to get my body back and

00:10:02.360 I was never this weight before but I was like slightly chubby I was attractive you know like

00:10:06.660 fat wasn't the first thing you notice about me if you know what I mean um and so like I had a lot

00:10:12.340 going for me and yeah when I gained all that weight I was like oh well I'm just fat now and

00:10:16.220 there's nothing I can do about it and so that was when I just gave up and I did start eating junk

00:10:19.820 whatever um because i'd put on so much weight when i was really trying not to

00:10:24.140 well yeah is there something that you ate on like a daily basis that you can't believe you ate now

00:10:31.020 um i think yeah like what you said sugary coffee like liquids i would never drink my calories now

00:10:37.220 um just the things that you can pack into a milkshake it's like crazy um and before like

00:10:44.640 i would have them in moderation but now like i just would never spend my calories that way i

00:10:50.100 would rather have something else yeah yeah i agree i couldn't to be honest because for me it was like

00:10:56.620 i always i never was that big because i worked out a lot but whenever i stopped working out i

00:11:02.460 would always gain weight really fast and when i started counting my calories i couldn't believe

00:11:07.240 I wasn't fatter because I was like I was like 50 pounds heavier you're very tall as well though

00:11:16.580 so like you'll always be able to eat more than I can because I'm five foot three oh like the

00:11:20.940 picture of us together is ridiculous people were dying laughing being like how tall is she and how

00:11:25.300 short are you because we are very different in height and that will heavily affect how many

00:11:29.300 calories you can eat yeah okay so how is this has this changed your opinion on body positivity do

00:11:36.620 you still think it's a good thing like now that you've kind of been through it I'm curious

00:11:40.840 what your perspective is now yeah I absolutely think it's a good thing I think the thing is

00:11:47.620 so when we were on the show like a lot of the questions were based around health and stuff

00:11:51.420 like that and when I was fat I was like yeah obviously it's not healthy it's not healthy to

00:11:55.040 be fat I don't I don't believe in health at any size but I do believe that people shouldn't stop

00:11:58.720 themselves doing what they're doing because oh I need to lose the weight and then I'm gonna do this

00:12:01.840 I need to lose weight and then I'm gonna do this when I got engaged I was fat and I see all the

00:12:05.640 time people say like oh I want to lose weight for when I get engaged and things like that and I'm

00:12:09.360 like why like don't stop living your life just live your life and better yourself if you want to

00:12:14.620 but I am yeah I remember when we were on the show like there was a guy that the guy that I was

00:12:21.180 arguing with was um was he a personal trainer and he was saying that he didn't think I should go on

00:12:25.800 the beach and stuff like that because I looked fat in a bikini and I don't ever regret going on

00:12:31.040 a beach in a bikini and I don't look back at those pictures and feel embarrassment I don't

00:12:35.040 you know like i would take them down if i did i guess more of my question it's not really about

00:12:39.760 because what i think of body positivity i mean i really don't want to see fat people in those

00:12:45.280 thong bikinis i think those should be reserved for thin women but i think anyone should wear a thong

00:12:51.520 i think if you want to wear a thong you you're watching this i don't care who you are man woman

00:12:56.640 whatever wear a thong bikini if you want to wear a thong bikini there's no laws stopping them i'd

00:13:00.880 just rather not see it yeah but there's loads of things that like i'm not attracted to that i see

00:13:05.840 all the time but i don't go oh my god stop i'm not attracted to old men in my eye line

00:13:11.760 i wouldn't say it out you know i want to go out of my way to say this to a fat person at the beach

00:13:17.360 but a lot of people are thinking this you know yeah but i mean you might see that when you see

00:13:22.640 a man with a really hairy back but like i just again like i think if he wants his hairy back out

00:13:27.360 have his hairy back out there's nothing to be embarrassed about i i i can't say i see that the

00:13:32.080 same way because he can't really help like he can't really help the hairy back but the the fat

00:13:38.880 that's like a choice you know i just think one pieces are okay for the half so again though like

00:13:45.600 with it being a choice i actually think it's controversial over whether it is actually a

00:13:50.480 choice no way it's okay go ahead god i do you know what like and also getting thin has like

00:13:57.920 reinforced this for me the amount of people that tell me i am a very healthy weight i am like

00:14:02.220 slap bang in the middle of a healthy bmi and people tell me all the time i am unhealthily skinny

00:14:06.340 and i'm objectively not because like as society everybody thinks that like when you are slim you

00:14:13.340 are too slim yeah and i just think like we're almost like ingrained as a society to think that

00:14:18.760 being overweight and being obese is so normal that like it almost is not becoming a choice

00:14:23.300 because it's coming it's becoming normal like people tell me I'm too thin when I'm absolutely

00:14:26.660 not too thin people really want to convince me I have an eating disorder because I lost my weight

00:14:30.300 so quickly when I don't it's funny you say that I just was talking to someone this weekend

00:14:35.840 who they didn't say it they said it about somebody I know and they said oh she's too

00:14:41.460 thin and I'm like I don't think so I think you're just kind of fat well it's it's hard like it's

00:14:47.620 no they were they're overweight they're definitely not that fat but you know there's like

00:14:53.940 normal bmi and like i i was always like slightly over not by much but like five ten pounds over

00:15:00.900 go ahead there's not a huge difference in when somebody is slightly so again with bmi i think

00:15:06.740 waist to height ratio is more accurate than bmi i agree um and most people who are slightly

00:15:13.300 overweight on bmi still fit into the waist to height ratio i don't think i did oh really no i

00:15:21.940 don't think so because well because i like i always gain weight in my stomach i don't really gain it

00:15:27.300 in other areas i'm like one of those yeah i just i think i when i think of it i think of all those

00:15:33.460 posts on tiktok that are like this is an unhealthy bmi look at me and it's a girl whose waist like

00:15:37.620 she obviously has low visceral fat levels because she's got a small waist and i'm like well it

00:15:41.220 it doesn't matter just measure your waist and your height don't worry about it i totally agree

00:15:45.780 okay so the you still think so but you don't think it's good to like glorify or like celebrate

00:15:54.240 being fat right or maybe you do what's the i don't think there's anything wrong with being

00:15:59.500 fat and i don't think anyone should be punished for being fat what about i think what about like

00:16:04.480 health care costs like if you get fat and you get sick because of it like doesn't don't you think

00:16:09.780 the country and uk they have free health care then everyone has to pay for it yeah um but then i just

00:16:14.900 think why the does everyone care about fat people so much and not smokers like i find it odd that

00:16:19.860 that's the only thing like vaping whenever i've been in hospital for my asthma the amount of

00:16:23.960 people are in there for vaping on the same lung ward as me and nobody's going stop vaping because

00:16:28.200 of the health care costs but they do say it on obesity and i just think it's because you hate

00:16:32.340 far people well no do you know what it is i think it's just it's more in one smoking is more of a

00:16:40.300 british thing than an american thing i guess we have the vapes but i think like smoking is more

00:16:46.340 accepted in britain than america i don't think it's as accepted here in europe generally people

00:16:51.660 smoke a lot yeah um okay so you lost the weight in a year and a half you still think the body

00:16:59.200 positivity stuff is good overall and i do you know what as well shout out i love the people i was on

00:17:04.980 the show with sugar puff i think he's a great example of body positivity he's a cool guy he is

00:17:12.000 a cool guy i'm gonna react to it in a little bit but i just want to see if your opinion says

00:17:18.320 because it seems like your opinions haven't really changed much since being then so is there

00:17:23.760 but people listen now well yeah you know that's the thing we gave you a microphone when you were

00:17:33.920 fat like i know but nobody took me seriously when i said like yeah medication made me really fat but

00:17:40.560 now when i say it people are like oh damn did it i'm like yeah um okay let me pull this up

00:17:48.560 oh how has your life changed since losing the weight outside of health i'm assuming you get

00:17:55.920 way more attention when you go everywhere uh you know it's really funny that you say that because

00:18:01.380 like kind of kind of not like not i don't think i was ever ugly so it's like i did people say all

00:18:09.680 these things of like i was taking the piss out of because i was fat and you know or i don't know

00:18:13.760 what americans would say is taking the piss out of but like i have never had that experience i've

00:18:17.580 never had people make fun of me for being fat outside of your chat it's like I just I've not

00:18:22.400 really experienced that um so I didn't really have a hard life as a fat person and it hasn't

00:18:28.340 changed that much I guess I get slightly more attention from people at the gym specifically

00:18:33.800 but I wasn't in the gym that much before so I don't know like they're calling you hot in the

00:18:39.980 chat now i'm married well congratulations um do you mind doug mpa wanted to eat his words a little

00:18:49.180 bit so he wanted to come say hi is that all right yeah yeah okay doug mpa hello oh my goodness who

00:18:58.220 is that yeah wow first off first off um congratulations on doing all the hard work

00:19:08.540 of losing weight don't discount the fact of how much work you've done to lose weight because

00:19:13.740 here's the thing about here's one of the biggest differences between men and women and body

00:19:19.340 positive people and people that don't like body positivity that look like me we recognize hard

00:19:25.420 work it takes work to lose weight and keep the weight off especially in the west where there's

00:19:30.540 so much food all over the place like it is so we talk about this body positivity thing

00:19:37.660 why can't people do the work that you did or even half the work you know i'm very privileged though

00:19:47.280 um in order like i i'm an influencer i do tiktok as my job uh i have a lot of time like especially

00:19:55.500 in the time that i did it in i think most people that work like a nine-to-five office job would

00:19:59.900 really struggle and especially with how much i go to the gym now i don't think no people would be

00:20:03.840 able to to do that I think a lot of people can do it I would never discourage someone from doing it

00:20:09.400 but I wouldn't ever say to somebody like oh yeah it was as easy for me as it will be for you because

00:20:13.660 I did have a lot of time that people don't have well yeah I can say but here's the thing so I have

00:20:20.400 an office job from my day job and a lot of people you know I can make it to the gym you have people

00:20:29.020 there's so many distractors in society right now like a lot of people if they just put their phone

00:20:34.640 down for an hour instead of scroll through and burn calories understand i'm saying it's just like

00:20:40.940 yeah and i'm talking about the average person i would never say bad things about those who have

00:20:46.520 lack of access you know those who are impoverished but in america 70 of america is in the middle

00:20:53.140 class and they have options and they can they have choices and yeah either choose them the choice for

00:21:01.540 health or not and here's the thing don't get caught in the dichotomy of you're either big or

00:21:07.220 you're skinny health is a quest not a treasure and you know that now as long as you're trying to be

00:21:14.180 healthy and people don't even try that's what pisses me off about body positivity put in the

00:21:20.340 work and at least try if you're trying people will respect effort so there's a lot of people

00:21:26.260 that don't know that so one of the things that's really weird about i'm sorry well one of the

00:21:30.580 things is really weird that i found weird about losing weight is people i have never met before

00:21:34.660 in my life like in my local shop they don't know who i am from online they don't know who i am from

00:21:38.980 adam they will come up to me and go like how did you lose the weight how did you do it and i've

00:21:42.900 had conversations with like random men where i go i did calorie counting and they go what's that

00:21:48.500 like they don't even know like and i explained like what a macro is to this just random man in

00:21:54.420 waitrose because a lot of people just don't know and i don't i i don't know i don't know why that

00:21:59.140 is i always knew what that was but yeah yeah that's getting down into the weed we all know that

00:22:05.460 the more you put into your mouth the bigger your gut's gonna be we all know that we also have we

00:22:11.300 have the wealth of human's knowledge in our hand on our phones people can research all sorts of

00:22:16.980 crazy stuff but they can't research their health yeah i just my favorite my favorite thing using

00:22:25.780 chat gpt for counting calories was like the best thing ever oh my gosh i always just use talk to

00:22:32.900 text i tell it what i ate every day i don't know if it's that accurate though it's not it's not

00:22:40.580 perfect but if you actually weigh the food out and like it's it's pretty it even finds like rest

00:22:48.740 like restaurants if you want to go out tells you what to order it's not perfect but it's better

00:22:53.060 than nothing i also want to say this to you you know that it's socially acceptable for big women

00:23:01.140 to make fun of a thinner women but thin women can't make fun of bigger women and you you're

00:23:07.140 experiencing that now because you're what like 28 29 right yeah i'm saying so as you get older

00:23:14.580 the women around you are going to get bigger and if you stay thin they're going to give you hell

00:23:21.380 every single woman i know over 35 or in her 40s who's thin all they do you need to eat you need

00:23:29.060 to eat you're you're a skinny mini it is socially acceptable for bigger women to make fun of thinner

00:23:35.380 women so get ready like this is a really weird societal thing so i've lost friends like with

00:23:40.740 losing weight what like yeah they just said they can't be friends with you because you're thin

00:23:48.580 they've said that like it triggers them and that they think that like i have an eating disorder

00:23:55.220 and that i'm not healthy and they don't like me talking about it um which is quite hard and i

00:24:00.980 don't really know how to feel about those things because as i said like i'm very body positive

00:24:04.420 and i'm very forward for other people putting themselves out there i think you can look

00:24:07.780 how you want i think my friends are beautiful regardless of their size because i love them as

00:24:11.140 people um also i there's a lot of fat women i think are fit like it sounds like an oxymoron but

00:24:17.060 like i there's women um and yeah so i've never really spoke negatively about bigger women but

00:24:23.460 i have had um yeah friends that i just haven't liked it it's strange i think you can be fit

00:24:30.180 when you're chubby but like over a certain weight i think it's hard to be fit i've seen like because

00:24:36.420 i ran a marathon like six months ago are you no it's probably you know i don't congratulate me

00:24:42.900 it was the worst day of my life but there are some chubby people but like i don't think somebody

00:24:49.940 like 250 could do it like something i mean um i mean fit like english fit fit means hot here

00:24:58.100 oh okay you know what i mean um rather than like fit but yeah there are people who run marathons

00:25:03.620 i will say like i i ran a lot when i was overweight um not at my biggest weight obviously but when i

00:25:08.260 was like 200 pounds i run half marathons um but i will say that now i can run fast i i run slow

00:25:15.540 half marathons and now i run quite competitive speeds which is nice i just want to know why

00:25:21.380 you supported body positivity in larger people but they're not supporting you now

00:25:29.560 they do like there are people how do you reconcile that because there are people that do and also

00:25:36.060 like like when i lost that friend who um obviously felt quite insecure and triggered and stuff by

00:25:41.280 what was going on with me i i knew it was a problem with her and there's something deep down

00:25:45.200 going on there that she needs to work through and that i just feel bad for her so i don't worry about

00:25:49.640 you know i just want to bring up one more thing so smoking there's been a campaign against smoking

00:25:56.920 in the united states for the past 70 years 80 years and even with vaping our smoking rates are

00:26:03.000 like not even half that of like the 60s and the 70s and even now everywhere you go you see warnings

00:26:10.120 against tobacco products everywhere and so it's to the point now where it is culturally accepted

00:26:15.960 that if you smoke you know that you're going to get lung cancer and you choose because we every

00:26:21.160 tobacco product has a warning on it there's no cigarettes on commercials on tv anymore so there's

00:26:28.360 been an active campaign i want that to happen with awful food and fatness and one last thing

00:26:35.640 you don't have the body positivity movies movement started right no i don't so in the united states

00:26:44.200 well here in the u.s after 9 11 we started sending people over to iraq and afghanistan

00:26:52.200 and the goal over there was not to to take out our soldiers it was to like maim them for

00:26:58.200 psychological reasons so a lot of them would be getting hit by ieds and have their you know scars

00:27:04.760 and have their arms blown up and legs blown off and so i remember in 2005 2006 and 2007 they had

00:27:12.040 campaigns of body positivity where they would show athletes missing an arm or missing a leg

00:27:16.600 it should be okay for a person missing a leg to walk around in shorts or a person missing an arm

00:27:22.760 to walk around with their shirt off i remember they tried to get disney to stop making all of

00:27:27.560 their disney villains have an eye patch or like a scar on their face because it makes people that

00:27:32.040 have that look bad so that's how body positivity started then fat people took it over and i'm like

00:27:39.480 what's in 2011 2012 2013 was the first time i started seeing fat people co-op body positivity

00:27:47.000 when it wasn't for them in the first place because a soldier who gets their arm taken

00:27:51.640 off or leg to take it up loses an eye they did that for something noble and it was something

00:27:56.760 that they couldn't control but fat people just took the whole thing over so i have a different

00:28:02.520 idea of what body positivity is if something happened outside of your control you see body

00:28:07.400 positive about it but if you just don't want to do the work and spend the effort you spend what

00:28:13.880 did your parents tell you when you were trying to avoid your chores when you were little you're

00:28:19.480 spending more time not doing the work than if you just do the work and that's what body positivity

00:28:24.360 people are doing see that's why i disagree with you and i disagree with a lot of body positive

00:28:29.560 people as well because i think it's for everybody and a lot of like fat positive people will say

00:28:34.440 it's not for everybody it's for plus size people i think it i think it's for everyone i i like it

00:28:38.760 now like when i see people on body positivity with extra skin it makes me feel better about

00:28:43.000 the fact i have extra skin you know like it's evidence of my hard work so yeah i just i think

00:28:49.640 it's for everyone are you um do all people that lose a lot of weight like you have extra skin or

00:28:57.640 or is it because you did it fast um so it's it's very relative I have very minor amounts of extra

00:29:04.600 skin because I'm young um and I wasn't morbidly obese for that long so the longer you spend at

00:29:12.700 your highest weight and your age are the biggest factor in extra skin from what I gather um so my

00:29:19.480 skin has a lot more like elasticity to bounce back than other people's skin would um I still

00:29:23.520 have little bits here and there um but yeah I'm quite lucky I don't think most people who lose

00:29:29.580 150 pounds do it at my age they usually do it when they're quite a bit older or they've had kids and

00:29:33.360 so it's harder for their body to bounce back so I think a little bit it's inevitable have you

00:29:38.500 are you interested in the surgery at all I don't I don't know how like big the extra skin is or like

00:29:44.980 no no it's like I don't know something that I would like go under the knife for like it's just

00:29:50.920 and again like i don't um you know like my husband sees my body like it's not like i'm like getting

00:29:57.060 my body out for everyone anyway um but yeah no it's not really something that i think the same

00:30:01.840 guy that you with before you lost weight yeah okay all right i know i i saw a lot of uh comments on

00:30:10.180 when pearl retweeted me everyone was like well she better stay with the twos she better not go

00:30:14.760 a 10 now um he was a 10. he's still a 10. like i was just like i think she might be the only woman

00:30:22.920 in history to lose weight and stay with the guy and stay with the guy exactly

00:30:28.840 this is a good thing it means you're loyal but but i'm like you're saying you have to understand

00:30:34.680 most of the time when women lose the weight they dump the guy and they bow yeah do they i don't

00:30:39.720 know a lot of people that have lost a lot of weight oh what like 90 of the time maybe who's

00:30:44.520 it there that happened and you were saying really good things about him on the show so

00:30:50.120 um yeah he's a really good egg and also like everyone was like is he fat is he fat he's not

00:30:54.360 fat he's skinny he's always been skinny and he eats more crap than anyone i've ever met in my

00:30:59.080 life but he's he's nearly seven foot he's extremely tall so it doesn't affect him at all

00:31:03.240 he can eat whatever we have a rule in our house where he can buy as much junk food as he wants

00:31:07.080 but nothing i like so that i won't look at it how did you meet him he was a follower oh cool

00:31:14.840 okay years ago he's a follower he's a good egg all right we're gonna pull this

00:31:21.800 pull this up i like the video and subscribe if you haven't already we let's get to 100 engagement

00:31:30.360 please and thank you for being on the audacity chat everybody we really appreciate it go ahead

00:31:34.680 it's going to be interesting because i did so many shows that i honestly barely even remember

00:31:40.200 what we talked about this panel so i don't remember you have an agency you have a quota

00:31:45.560 that you want to meet you want people to look different so blonde girls would either have

00:31:48.840 ginger so that they match so if you're a natural it's oh wow especially if you have long hair

00:31:54.120 would i be considered a ginger or am i am i not ginger okay some people say that i have i'm like

00:31:59.640 a brunette other people say i feel like people just say that like sometimes people like oh my

00:32:03.880 my god you're strawberry blonde i'm like no i'm ginger just say i'm ginger no one looking forward

00:32:08.000 to the show 20 did the nba so uh so my name is kadeem moore i am we're gonna skip the end yeah

00:32:14.340 i think that's me to lose weight i am you are okay you have to immediately go 100 percent

00:32:22.780 thousand percent and then for the girls it's like ah it's complicated it's long answer yeah

00:32:27.760 i just feel like is it a priority or is it not a priority it should be a i think all around

00:32:32.760 priority yeah that is one thousand percent of priority this fun fact the girl on the right

00:32:39.000 we actually tried to do a weight loss show for i paid for a personal trainer for like

00:32:44.240 two or three weeks but then she quit so did she quit i thought she was committed

00:32:49.260 she was for a little bit she was really nice nothing against her i know it's hard but

00:32:54.380 i did i did my best to to help the reason why you wake up is the reason why you get off your

00:33:01.580 bed and walk like you have to be healthy to be able to live right so who here um would you would

00:33:09.560 say is actively trying to lose weight i am you are 100 you are hey i did it i did it

00:33:18.780 because i i moderated every single one of these shows i remember every single i shocked

00:33:28.520 curl with my knowledge of these shows he remembers more people than i do

00:33:35.160 i just remember you have beautiful hair oh like everyone was like what

00:33:43.240 was this all your hair right here yeah of course yeah like you had beautiful hair there i just

00:33:49.080 wanted to say it yeah oh are you being nice now you were not nice at the time oh yeah boy i wasn't

00:33:55.480 here it comes he's like hey if that husband doesn't work out

00:34:04.760 but um i agree with the hair i bought the hair my hair was fake what have you guys done is it

00:34:11.800 was so bad these extensions oh my god i needed them out is it like workout diet yeah gym membership

00:34:18.280 going to the gym trying to be more consistent with it and um making adjustments to eating habits

00:34:25.000 but also mindset okay what do you mean by mindset uh not seeing working out and you know the steps

00:34:33.480 towards prioritizing my health which are admittedly quite difficult some of them more than others as

00:34:39.080 punishment but seeing it as a reward i think health is a reward for discipline um and just loving

00:34:45.080 yourself a little bit more if you see it as punishment it becomes something that you don't

00:34:48.600 want to do so yeah changing my mindset to reward as opposed to punishment that's good um hank could

00:34:57.160 you turn up the headphones a little bit i'm just having a hard time hearing people um okay thank

00:35:05.400 depends what aspect they're looking at it from i just think that body positivity promotes healthiness

00:35:12.920 promotes health depends what aspect they're looking at it from um body positivity i know

00:35:22.220 in the last last week we had this discussion about body positivity and for me it's not about

00:35:29.840 me being on a big magazine or people like me being promoted it's more about

00:35:35.460 did you put i love redheads in the chat

00:35:38.500 you know that no i do the whole time i've known you i just i know i just thought it was funny

00:35:48.880 redhead redheads and ethiopian women are the two most beautiful women on the planet

00:35:53.320 um like for example being accommodated for in in public services and being mistreated just because

00:36:04.840 of the size now i understand um i don't think people mistreat fat people in public do you think

00:36:12.360 that being a former fat person i so i didn't have much experience of that but i have seen it and

00:36:19.400 yes i think it happens and it also really hurts my heart to think of like specifically sugar puff

00:36:23.720 who's talking now he is such a good egg and he's such a nice person and he's so complimentary to

00:36:27.720 everyone it really breaks my heart to think that he's had those kind of experiences where people

00:36:31.080 have been mean about his weight for no reason what have you seen like with people um so i actually

00:36:37.480 at the gym a while ago had somebody um make fun of a girl for there was i was on a treadmill and

00:36:43.800 there was another girl on a treadmill and then there was another girl on a treadmill and the

00:36:46.840 girl on the end treadmill was quite large and the girl on the middle treadmill tried to make fun of

00:36:51.880 her to me and i was like obviously not going to engage with that because i was a lot heavier than

00:36:57.480 this big girl she was making fun of but just things like that where the girl she's not stupid

00:37:01.960 she would have been in tune to what was happening even if she didn't hear just the looks and the

00:37:06.200 kind of side eyes and things like that it's just quite unpleasant especially with someone at the

00:37:09.640 gym have you seen it more than that instance or just that one no i've definitely seen more than

00:37:16.040 that instance that's the first thing that comes to my mind okay keep going it'll be interesting

00:37:21.080 i'm going to see if eva wants to get on here because she lost a bunch of weight too my little

00:37:25.240 sister lost like 50 pounds or something oh wow yeah no i went i went through a time where

00:37:35.880 where i was bigger and though and i felt uncomfortable with myself looking in the

00:37:43.080 mirror i kind of hated what i saw but i couldn't find the motivation to change anything about it

00:37:48.200 but like you know i moved away from my situation and lost a bunch of weight and got in shape and

00:37:53.240 the hardest part about being one of the reasons this is just my theory one of the reasons why

00:37:57.640 you can't make fun of people at all is because they they have a war going on in their head about

00:38:05.080 their their body image and they feel bad about themselves so that anything if they hear that

00:38:11.080 same okay the conversation that they have with themselves is worse than anything that someone

00:38:16.840 can say to them so when you say something like what they say to themselves in their head it

00:38:21.080 triggers them because i don't think there's a happy person that's fat i just don't i i agree

00:38:27.800 and i disagree with it i i agree and i disagree i think like when i was really fat i did not know

00:38:36.040 how big i was for a start like i just didn't when i turned 75 pounds i was like i looked 200 pounds

00:38:41.800 you know what i mean like i i didn't think that i was that big even though obviously i can look at

00:38:45.880 it now and be like yeah i was really really big i was obviously morbidly obese i didn't feel like

00:38:49.960 that and i when i looked in the mirror i was like i look fine like so it's hard like and maybe you'd

00:38:55.560 say like well that's me coping with it maybe it was but i never hated myself and i don't think

00:39:01.000 for most people and for myself particularly i could never hate myself then i couldn't hate

00:39:04.680 myself into being healthy i had to really like myself to to do hard things for myself

00:39:11.720 yeah but you're also you're also an influencer so like so influence especially people who who

00:39:18.040 are good at it have a whole different mindset than the average person so like i don't think that your

00:39:23.320 mindset about yourself and your esteem the fact that you would be influencer and have your face

00:39:28.440 out there and live that lifestyle automatically means the that you don't have the mindset of the

00:39:33.080 regular fat person yeah but i see like the mindset of other overweight people who and like i said

00:39:41.160 before like they stop themselves doing things because they go oh when i want to lose weight

00:39:44.760 and then i'll start dating i want to lose weight and then i'll do this when i was 275 pounds i got

00:39:49.160 to record a song at abbey road studios if i was worried about what i was looking like that day i

00:39:54.280 would have gone oh i'm not gonna go i don't want to do that and i wouldn't have taken all these

00:39:56.680 like amazing opportunities that i had because i wouldn't have wanted to be on camera and so i'm

00:40:00.600 really glad that i never felt that way and i don't think people should feel that way but i do think

00:40:04.840 a lot of people do feel that way okay welcome to the show eva my sister's here she's another red

00:40:11.080 head she lost eva how much weight did you lose 50 pounds 80 uh almost 70. welcome to this oh wow

00:40:22.600 yeah

00:40:25.240 skinny we're reacting to a body positivity panel e oh i see okay i am the size i am

00:40:34.680 but at the end of the day people with disabilities are also my size and

00:40:39.000 people how how do you know if i don't have a hidden disability no one knows so i'm just saying

00:40:46.120 that's why to me body positivity is important so that people don't get mistreated

00:40:51.800 um i think that body positivity isn't important in terms of mental health i think there's a lot

00:40:55.720 of people that really hate themselves because of their weight and i personally like on my

00:41:00.760 socials get a lot of comments from people saying that they are so happy to see somebody my size

00:41:05.560 comfortable with themselves and happy and posing in bikinis and things like that like all of my

00:41:09.960 last instagram posts have been me in bikinis and i've got so many comments from people being like

00:41:13.880 wow i wish i could wear that or i am gonna wear that because you wore that and it makes me feel

00:41:18.200 like i can which i think some people would take as a back landed compliment but for me like as somebody

00:41:22.520 i'm trying to lose weight i'm trying to be healthier because i know it's a priority i know

00:41:26.120 something i need to do in my life but it's not my reality right now like i'm not at my full health

00:41:30.280 i'm not the best i could possibly be but i'm still i don't hate myself for that and i think that um

00:41:36.200 the fat shaming movement yeah i gotta disagree i think bikinis are a privilege but there's no law

00:41:43.160 there's no law against it so i can't stop you nor would i go up to someone randomly at a beach

00:41:48.440 enjoying their day and tell them that but i feel like when i was like a certain weight for the most

00:41:57.400 part i wouldn't really wear the bikini because i just felt like why would i wear that i'm too fat

00:42:04.680 i think that everyone should wear whatever they want to wear and whatever they're comfortable in

00:42:08.040 and if you feel like a bad in a bikini and there were times i was 25 pounds and

00:42:11.400 i felt like a bad in a bikini i don't know why you would well i did

00:42:18.600 sorry i'm like just being i still can't believe it i'm talking to the same person i just can't

00:42:23.720 i can't believe it that was you but i'm saying the same things like i'm saying

00:42:43.080 and i'm saying the same thing i guess nothing has changed

00:42:47.720 right now i don't i don't know what you're talking about

00:42:53.720 well that's where you blew it

00:43:09.480 one of my greatest moments on parole's channel is that right there

00:43:13.400 they trolled so hard the panel is that something

00:43:16.360 let's go

00:43:21.000 i only i say the whales no but unless i am insulted or attacked i can't say that anymore

00:43:29.660 to say to not because i don't want to but because of youtube guidelines

00:43:34.760 what a shame you can't think everything they take everything great they're mean to men

00:43:43.880 all the time and there's no consequence what do you mean they're mean to men the guidelines what

00:43:50.520 do you mean no like um you could say met like men are trash kill all men f like screw men

00:43:59.140 but if you say anything that applies to women they kick you off and they ban you it makes perfect

00:44:05.040 sense pia because women make you can say you can just say kill all men and they won't do anything

00:44:10.260 about it that's that is old to me it's i can explain it to you why it's because women make

00:44:17.740 80 of consumer buying decisions so they have to pander to who's paying them they have to

00:44:24.360 like if i had a if i had a female like if i had a channel oh my gosh i can do my pandering this

00:44:32.240 is what i would do if i was pandering the body positivity it would be like wait hold on panel

00:44:36.640 one it would be like you are beautiful at the weight you're at i mean honestly um you are a queen

00:44:44.480 um i mean you should go out in a bikini at any side you know i would just go on that route i'm

00:44:50.640 gonna clip that go ahead okay you know and then if i just pandered i'd make way more money yeah

00:45:01.200 yeah i would say ladies if i was smarter i would have pandered a year ago just no but you're you

00:45:09.120 i know that you're smarter than that and you're lying because what you do is much more controversial

00:45:13.840 and therefore gets clicks no like as soon as taylor swift got engaged you were like taylor swift is

00:45:18.320 mid like pal no no but you don't understand that doesn't make money pia i mean they demonetized me

00:45:26.080 for a year and a half maybe like you say all women do you just value the attention i don't know like

00:45:31.760 no i well i i'm telling you if i if i could lie better i would get a female customer base

00:45:37.920 taylor swift is mid she's mid she's a mid is between four and six and i'd put her at a six

00:45:44.880 who's a 10 um i i would put a 10 megan fox in her prime um margot robbie in her prime

00:45:56.080 i don't think yeah is at that level i can't agree taylor swift is not that pretty

00:46:03.840 she's cute she's cute i think a five is average six is slightly above average that's what i put

00:46:08.720 her at taylor swift i'd actually put you higher than her congratulations than taylor swift i would

00:46:14.960 i'd give you a seven i'd give you seven you have nice hair i'd give you something i mean i i appreciate

00:46:21.040 that i'll take the compliment yeah but i just think you're dogging on taylor swift and i don't know

00:46:27.920 it's not it's not i'm trying to dog on her but i just what i don't like is us like like i don't

00:46:34.800 like us pretending she's like stunning when she's average looking it's kind of the same thing with

00:46:41.040 sydney sweeney like we used to go go look on tv and we would see these women that were so

00:46:46.400 incredibly beautiful and like stunning you'd almost feel insecure when you leave the theater

00:46:51.280 but now it's these average women and i'm like i shouldn't see women that i like see in day-to-day

00:46:58.080 life on the screen i mean it's it's all subjective but like i don't think it's an unpopular opinion

00:47:05.040 to think taylor swift is a 10 because she's a skinny blonde girl like she is the beauty standard

00:47:10.080 no i disagree she's like six no no because men usually the way i rate to be an eight plus i'm

00:47:16.000 actually very analytical with it pia you got to have boobs but flat stomach um and a beautiful

00:47:24.960 face not cute to be above an eight and i just i wouldn't give her she doesn't have boobs doesn't

00:47:30.560 have butt she did she has a cute face but it's not beautiful it's a little long there's like

00:47:34.640 so you're crazy sorry sorry hannah no when you see people on social media talking about famous

00:47:42.080 people like zendaya zendaya there's so many like tiktoks and videos talking about how pretty she

00:47:46.240 is you do not see that for taylor swift like you just don't even talk about taylor swift

00:47:51.360 is mid too yeah i'd give her like a seven six points yeah but my point is that she still ranks

00:47:57.300 higher than taylor swift like like you see people you see the videos for megan fox you see the

00:48:03.720 videos for zendaya like taylor swift the only videos you see are about like her engagement

00:48:07.560 ring now or like her touring or her fan base or like people talked about how much cardio you had

00:48:13.160 to do for her for her like shows that she would do but nobody talked about oh my gosh taylor swift's

00:48:18.820 hair looks so pretty today stuff like that like you just don't see that for taylor swift

00:48:22.780 wait let me let me blow your mind right i think trisha payas is a 10

00:48:28.440 who i think trisha payas is a really really beautiful woman i'm just gonna ignore that

00:48:35.800 like that's beauty subjective i know you're gonna disagree with me but i think she is stunning

00:48:42.240 yeah but that's the thing women do not i don't really care about women rate women because women

00:48:48.940 are dishonest and so but i have sex with women i don't anymore sorry

00:48:57.860 but it's not like lesbians i would it's not like lesbians are usually attractive they're like dykes

00:49:08.920 that's what they're known for looking like i like i like feminine women and i think of women i am

00:49:17.240 actually sexually attracted to i think trisha paytas is the first person that comes to my mind

00:49:21.240 no i see her right here she's an l dude like a walking talking l there's no way if you want to

00:49:27.800 see actual beautiful women you got to look at women that are in front of male audiences and

00:49:33.320 men deem attractive so like transformers that was a male movie wolf of wall street male movie

00:49:39.800 um ring girls now it's tough because they don't really make movies for men anymore but if you

00:49:44.440 look at like a ufc fight and you look at the ring girls they're usually eight plus

00:49:50.200 when i seen so taylor swift is from scranton pennsylvania blue collar city and i've been to

00:49:56.840 scranton pennsylvania you can't throw a rock without hitting a taylor swift in scranton

00:50:01.320 pennsylvania she looks like an average girl from scranton pennsylvania i still think it's not a

00:50:06.600 bad thing no there thank you no it's not an insult i said i just most women are mid like it's all

00:50:14.920 right but i just feel like a lot of women are very pretty like i don't you know i see a lot of women

00:50:20.680 i'm like that is a pretty girl like it well a mid is still pretty a six is pretty usually that means

00:50:27.640 they're pretty but they're not beautiful okay different level yeah then i will i don't think

00:50:34.280 that fat shaming helps anyone lose weight and i think we lose weight the way that

00:50:41.160 it helps so much sorry it helped you eva oh my god fat shaming was the only way i lost weight

00:50:48.680 i tried to lose weight for years i went off and on with it and did all sorts of things

00:50:52.440 and then hannah started tweeting being like i told my sister to walk on a treadmill i said okay i'm

00:50:56.200 I'm going to go walk.

00:51:00.800 It's the first time in my life I actually lost weight

00:51:03.480 and actually kept it all off.

00:51:05.720 Yeah, she looked great.

00:51:08.200 Eva, I'm going to ask you, like I said earlier,

00:51:14.000 my parents used to say that I would spend more time and effort

00:51:18.480 trying to not do my chores than to actually do them when I was younger.

00:51:22.660 Is it that way with, like, body positivity and weight loss

00:51:25.500 you see people spending more effort defending themselves being big or trying not to lose

00:51:30.300 weight than just losing weight no because they don't have to defend themselves anymore because

00:51:35.100 everybody just says plus size instead of saying you're obese cool okay all right i think it's

00:51:43.500 interesting go ahead sorry go ahead i think it's interesting that you're from the same family and

00:51:48.060 you have the same opinion on that fat shaming works for you it makes me wonder like when you

00:51:54.540 grew up what was your household like in terms of like did you have like kind of an almond mom

00:51:58.220 like do you know what i mean no do you know what's funny eva what used to be like a blue-haired

00:52:03.100 feminist like she used to have like blue hair and like she did not agree with any of this stuff

00:52:10.140 so thank you for calling me out hannah thank you thank you for bringing up that very painful memory

00:52:15.660 hey hey you're past it now but no i'm telling you no no go ahead i'm just saying the majority

00:52:25.880 of fat people are like that they try to defend themselves like i like i i live in colorado now

00:52:31.800 and i'm telling you the people who i feel safest to talk to about what i believe are not fat they're

00:52:36.980 not overweight they're not plus size whatever you want to call it i just i found that people

00:52:42.380 who are bigger lean towards more like the feminism views and being like being big is okay

00:52:50.380 and like it's just not there's there's almost no excuse for being fat that you can find even if

00:52:56.800 you're disabled you can eat healthier and i know some of them still struggle to lose weight there's

00:53:01.100 things that make it harder for them but there's just no excuse to be absolutely massive i think

00:53:08.060 if that was true though there wouldn't be an obesity crisis if it was just that simple everyone

00:53:11.440 would just be thin they'd be like oh well this doesn't make sense let's just be thin because

00:53:16.320 people just know like i this is

00:53:20.320 oh you you broke up oh no oh well i'm right anyway

00:53:31.280 you broke up for a second it makes so many apps nowadays that you oh i said it's actually

00:53:38.240 i think she's saying it's so easy because of the apps like i guess like my fitness pal and stuff

00:53:46.000 no i'm telling you not gpp i'll die on this hill yeah there's no excuse to be overweight people

00:53:54.100 just eat like shit and say i can't lose weight it's just not true have you heard have you heard

00:54:02.440 of vanity sizing pia uh yeah yeah what do you think of vanity sizing i think it's really annoying

00:54:09.800 because all of my clothes are different in every different shop like um and like some shops don't

00:54:17.400 carry a small enough size because like the extra small is like a small not an extra you know what

00:54:22.040 i mean things like that it is annoying um and silly and i think it's apparent when you look

00:54:26.440 at old clothes and stuff but i just think that people again like if people were more accepting

00:54:30.680 of themselves things like that wouldn't exist because they wouldn't need to pretend that they're

00:54:35.240 smaller to buy the clothes that they want i actually agree with you but why can't they just

00:54:40.020 say i'm fat instead of gaslighting us to to think they're not fat but that's like if they just said

00:54:46.960 hey i'm fat and i don't look good fat that's it like why does why does it have to have the end

00:54:53.860 bit on why can't you look good fat well because that's delusional to think you do i mean you

00:54:58.440 might look fat when you're young because you got like the youngness to you but when you're old and

00:55:03.540 fat you're like you could still get laid as a young fat person when you're an old fat woman

00:55:11.740 you're done cook yeah but if you're just talking about looks fading everyone's looks fade when they

00:55:16.480 get old everybody's ugly and saggy and old and gross eventually yeah i'm gonna get i'm sorry

00:55:21.280 not not as much i don't know i went to guys guys can hold on to it for a lot longer

00:55:28.240 but um go ahead doug here's the way that i see the effort of defending yourself when you're fat

00:55:36.880 and all the time it takes to do so so you know the the black community we come up with all these

00:55:43.920 crazy names right we have women with apostrophes and all sorts of you know one of my friends named

00:55:49.920 her daughter kai andrea with an apostrophe and all sorts of extra e's and a's and stuff

00:55:55.020 and and anyway so i see people where uh asian people come here and they have asian names but

00:56:02.260 an office they'll just have you call them phil or alice because they know people won't be able

00:56:08.520 to pronounce their name so why fight it every single day but my people american black people

00:56:13.940 would give their son or daughter a crazy name and they'll spend their entire life

00:56:19.020 correcting people on the name and it's like you only have so much energy in a day why do you

00:56:24.460 just accept your name except the fact that people can't say your name like asian people do asian

00:56:30.740 people are like look they're never going to be able to say my name call me phil move on

00:56:35.200 and that's what it is with body positivity you only have so much time and effort in a day

00:56:40.640 why put yourself in a position where you have to defend that over and over every single day

00:56:45.880 why i think that's an injustice though like i think people should always make an effort to

00:56:50.880 say somebody's name i think that that's polite and civil yeah but it's real world you know you

00:56:59.800 can't go into i know you know what i mean you can't go and like demand polite no that's just

00:57:04.760 i know what you're saying but i still would be of the opinion that like i'm like well i would

00:57:09.740 always make an effort to say someone's name correctly so why shouldn't everybody else in

00:57:12.920 the same way that i don't think there's anything wrong with body positivity i think it's fine for

00:57:16.540 people to be fine with the way they are and so i i don't see why other people should have such a

00:57:21.160 problem with it okay so i'll tell you why i have a problem with it okay i'll give it to you so it's

00:57:27.360 not like i i spend my nights thinking about fat people okay i don't really it's not like every

00:57:34.200 day i'm just seething thinking about these fatties and wanting them to lose weight you know they you

00:57:40.440 guys are not you anymore but they're fun to dunk on right but it's the internet you make fun of

00:57:47.640 things it's a show it is what it is however what is annoying to me is that it will become somebody

00:57:54.440 else's problem yes if you get old enough and you get fat enough there are going to be health issues

00:58:00.760 and somebody is going to have to take care of you that's where it's either going to be your husband

00:58:08.040 your father your brother it will become somebody else's problem because you can't put the donut

00:58:14.760 down or you don't get as much time with your kids so i it's not necessarily that you know i spend my

00:58:22.920 nights thinking about fat people but i think it's a shame that we want to say you're okay how you

00:58:29.160 are and celebrate it because this is killing people you know i know people that have died

00:58:36.040 from being overweight so it would be the same to me as saying like oh you should be okay with

00:58:41.640 being a heroin addict it's not like i spend my nights you know thinking about heroin addicts

00:58:47.880 but when i see somebody say heroin positive i kind of look at them funny i know what i i understand

00:58:53.880 exactly what you're saying and i don't disagree with you from that like health perspective i don't

00:59:00.980 i don't agree with health at any size i don't think that should be put across any way i do think

00:59:06.280 that there needs to be some sort of address for like how society is so comfortable with everybody

00:59:10.940 being overweight and i think the food is making us fat i think advertisers make us fat i agree with

00:59:15.920 i think it was doug earlier saying that they should put more stuff on fatty foods and stuff

00:59:19.620 like warnings like there are on cigarettes I agree with you but I still don't think

00:59:25.400 going off at an individual is gonna help them to better themselves anyway like I just think that

00:59:31.420 you should be able to be happy with who you are while being encouraged to better yourself well

00:59:35.960 yes but I still think even if you're doing your day-to-day stuff it becomes someone else's problem

00:59:42.360 like I'll go on an airplane and there's some like I fly all the time I hate it when I have a fat

00:59:49.020 person next to me yeah because you're spilling into my seat this isn't fair we get off the

00:59:54.860 like you get off the plane and they're like wobbling they walk really slow and again it's

01:00:00.060 not like i spend my days thinking about them um i'm just trying to get around them so i can keep

01:00:05.580 walking but when you get enough of them it makes life just more annoying and then becomes someone

01:00:13.100 else's problem does that make sense it's also like i hate when i have a tall person behind me

01:00:18.460 and their knees are in my seat the seats are just too small like airlines can't control that

01:00:26.460 that's genetics is being tall fat is food yeah i i agree with you but i think there's a reason

01:00:34.060 that people are so fat and i don't think it's directly their fault all the time but it's

01:00:38.300 interesting because i don't understand how you could say that when you lost the weight

01:00:41.740 do you know what i mean like because i don't know when i started tracking what i was eating i

01:00:46.540 couldn't believe I wasn't fatter and I was like I should for me it was like I didn't want to weigh

01:00:51.020 my food I would rather just work out and I just I was always putting that off but it was my own fault

01:00:58.860 but yeah go ahead I think it's because I saw people's reactions to my weight loss and I

01:01:04.620 realized how like kind of delulu people are generally about weight and weight loss and

01:01:09.180 eating disorders and all of those things like there is a societal problem where people do not

01:01:13.500 know what healthy is like people think because i don't eat like because i don't eat chocolate i

01:01:19.260 don't eat chocolate generally if i have chocolate i will really want chocolate i have people push

01:01:24.060 desserts on me all the time and they think it's weird that i won't have a dessert and it's like

01:01:29.580 that is that's a societal problem at a certain point because why do you think it's so like odd

01:01:34.780 that i don't want to eat that do you know what do you know i'm saying like no i know what you're

01:01:39.100 you're saying when you try to I have a friend who he you know it's funny you say shaving doesn't

01:01:44.900 work but I've gotten two people to lose like 40 pounds but I do yeah there's a guy um I went to

01:01:53.080 England right when I came back he was my brother's friend and like I grew up with him and I came back

01:01:58.760 and I'm like what happened man he was like 50 pounds heavier and I've worked out with him every

01:02:05.100 day for like a year or something and now he's lost a bunch of weight but i went to his um

01:02:09.820 family's house and the mom was in his ear saying like oh you shouldn't have to lose weight and i'm

01:02:15.180 like he's he's trying so hard i see him every day you look so good like why are you trying to fatten

01:02:21.980 him up so i totally i actually really agree with you like fat people they always try to drag you

01:02:28.060 down it's like they want you to stay i think eva didn't she lose a friend getting thin didn't you

01:02:34.220 you lose your fat friend or by making that up there was more to it than that but that was part

01:02:41.140 of the thing is that i actually gained so much weight being her friend because she just want to

01:02:45.860 go eat out 24 7 and like there'd be times we'd go to mcdonald's or something like like some fast

01:02:51.460 food place and we would both get like a meal you know like they have the pre-made ones and like i

01:02:56.540 wouldn't finish mine and she would finish it for me and i'm like how are you eating so much and

01:03:00.580 two hours later she'd be hungry again i'm like what the actual hell but that that to me sounds

01:03:07.620 like addiction like i think a lot of people are addicted to food like if you want it again in two

01:03:11.620 hours you're not hungry yeah the um i agree with the food addiction but that's how i hear it when

01:03:19.940 i hear body positivity to me it sounds like addiction that's how i hear it it's like addiction

01:03:25.780 positive food addiction positivity i have a question for for pia so you shouldn't shame people

01:03:33.620 uh so the okay outside of shame the only time i've seen someone lose weight is is there is a

01:03:40.340 there is a um event that happens like i had a friend that gave a bunch of weight after she got

01:03:46.180 married and she broke her leg she had never flown on a plane before so she's gonna fly from

01:03:51.380 pennsylvania to california and she sat on the plane and she couldn't buckle her seat belt

01:03:56.820 so she hit the little call button and she called the the fight attendant over and said i can't

01:04:02.500 buckle my seat belt and the fight attendant was like oh you need a seat belt extender i'll be

01:04:09.060 right back oh my god and and then of course the lady comes back holding the sepa extender like

01:04:17.940 outstretched and two fingers like it's the nastiest thing ever and everyone saw it it was so

01:04:23.000 embarrassing so she had to wear her first time on a plane she had to wear a seatbelt extended on the

01:04:27.920 way there and the way back and she lost 70 pounds after that so okay outside of a event and if you

01:04:34.880 can't fat shame people how can you get them to lose weight like how would you communicate to a

01:04:40.620 person that you cared about who's fat like how would you let them know not a not a stranger but

01:04:46.060 someone you love yeah I think you'd have to be really close to somebody to approach them about

01:04:50.340 that kind of thing and I would ask them what was going on with them I think would be my first I

01:04:55.080 would first come at it from a mental health point of view and be like are you like if I saw someone

01:04:58.420 gaining a lot of weight for example not someone that hadn't been fat and they've gained a lot of

01:05:01.340 weight I'd be like are you okay like what's up in the same way I would if someone lost all the weight

01:05:04.340 I'd be like are you like all right is that everything good with you and I think that's

01:05:08.400 totally fair and I have had a lot of those like quite positive conversations when I lost weight

01:05:11.400 as well that like I almost wish people had had with me when I was gaining the weight just been

01:05:14.600 like hey are you okay like there's nothing i can do you know what i mean like and i know pearl you

01:05:17.840 were saying you shamed somebody into losing those weight but it actually sounds like you were really

01:05:21.060 supportive of them and you worked out with them loads that's the kind of thing that i found really

01:05:25.280 helpful when i was losing weight was people being genuinely supportive and being like oh do you want

01:05:29.020 to go for a run together and stuff like that that was what was helpful to me what did i say to eva

01:05:34.340 eva what was the text i sent you oh no i sent her a picture on the treadmill i said where are you

01:05:40.960 i always ask i never just tweet the times i just thought like i know i know i'm fat people can

01:06:02.160 like there's no point trying to hide truth

01:06:07.600 okay let me

01:06:10.960 Hold on, wait, let me go back to this.

01:06:12.520 All right, let's watch the rest.

01:06:13.440 Are you trying to find the tweet, bro?

01:06:15.520 No, no, no, I'm playing the video.

01:06:17.620 We're having a good convo, but we're supposed to be reacting to the video.

01:06:21.320 Like, online.

01:06:22.500 Really?

01:06:22.900 Like, yeah, I made a video.

01:06:24.040 How much weight have you lost?

01:06:25.600 So since I made that video, I've lost a stone.

01:06:27.820 Okay, that's great, yeah.

01:06:29.260 How much is a stone?

01:06:30.380 I don't know either.

01:06:31.660 14 pounds.

01:06:32.940 14 pounds.

01:06:33.740 All right, like, 7 kilos.

01:06:34.360 Okay.

01:06:34.800 Okay.

01:06:35.200 Yeah, so I made a video because I wasn't allowed down a slide that I wanted to go down,

01:06:39.820 and that was like a moment of me right oh so you had one too yeah but i gained that weight back

01:06:45.100 well i lost 14 pounds and then i gained it back again so that's that's kind of how it goes

01:06:50.680 it's interesting because i never had success with the route you tried which is like an extreme

01:06:56.480 calorie deficit i i did the 200 to 300 deficit but it took me forever oh my god it took me forever

01:07:04.140 and I think if I was your size I you would have to go that route but yeah like oh like I should

01:07:11.760 be allowed down this slide you know like that was a moment where I felt like okay I need to do

01:07:16.100 something and it wasn't because I felt shame or whatever it was just like a bit of a like oh the

01:07:19.560 average person can do this and I can't do it yeah so I was like I need to lose weight but it doesn't

01:07:24.200 mean I don't respect anyone less for being overweight I understand what it's like to be

01:07:27.400 overweight I've been skinny I've been overweight and I just I do think the body positivity moment

01:07:31.240 is important for people to to like themselves and i think the best way to lose weight is is

01:07:35.640 by liking yourself because you're doing something good for yourself i actually think that for me

01:07:39.480 personally when i lost weight it was because i didn't like myself i didn't like the way i

01:07:43.960 lost i think i lost the heaviest i ever got personally was 210 and i think i was down 20

01:07:51.320 or 30 in this and then i lost and then i lost another 20. ah so you wouldn't have been out

01:07:58.040 down the side either because the weight limit was 160. yeah i wouldn't have made it

01:08:04.840 go ahead go at you i would also say what motivated me yeah i was gonna say what really motivated me

01:08:11.080 to actually lose weight was also the same thing was i it was like a straight month where you know

01:08:15.320 those days that you just like you feel pretty one day for no rent like for no reason nothing like

01:08:19.160 in particular you just feel pretty i hadn't had that for like a straight month and i was like i

01:08:24.120 I just feel huge. I feel like I am a bum because like the nicer clothes that I want to wear don't

01:08:29.640 fit me. And I just felt so ugly and terrible about myself. And that's what motivated me

01:08:34.120 to lose weight. And like, I did it really aggressively. Like I went full on, I went

01:08:37.980 full keto. I cut out sugar for my diet. Like I had everything. And I feel like it was because

01:08:43.720 I just felt so ugly. Well, yeah, when you're that big, I don't know, I think it'd be pretty

01:08:49.860 frustrating when you're that big to not see a change they're saying 210 is okay for six foot

01:08:56.340 look at no it's not no it's not it wasn't you're not like giant but i think like it was still too

01:09:02.980 fat why was your bmi um it was slightly overweight it was um no no because i know 185 is slightly

01:09:12.740 overweight for me that's like five pounds overweight so i think 180 is when i get to a

01:09:17.620 a healthy bmi but yeah 210 was overweight but it wasn't obese i think i was so miserable when i was

01:09:26.780 bigger that i'll do anything to not feel that way about myself again and and i can see in people's

01:09:33.520 faces that are bigger when they feel themselves when they i can tell when they feel like that i

01:09:38.520 hear how they talk and i want to do anything for them to not feel that way about themselves

01:09:42.720 i will never be as big as i was in high school again because i was absolutely freaking miserable

01:09:48.120 i would do anything to not feel that way again singer says 210 is normal for six foot well of

01:09:53.740 course a black guy is saying that come on i co-sign on that statement what does that mean

01:10:02.280 I think they always go for the fat chicks.

01:10:06.460 There was a girl on Pearl's show.

01:10:09.680 300 plus pounds.

01:10:11.920 Black guys always doing it.

01:10:13.500 That's what they're known for.

01:10:14.700 Go on.

01:10:15.960 There was a girl on Pearl's show, and she freaking pissed me off because she was sitting on the couch with glasses.

01:10:23.340 And a super chat asked her, asked all the women, what do they rate themselves?

01:10:28.660 and she said oh yeah i'm a five to white guys but i'm a i'm an eight to black guys

01:10:35.380 this girl was like six foot tall like like a smooth 275 or something like that i'm like

01:10:41.940 i was so mad but i couldn't even be mad because she's right but i was pissed because this girl

01:10:47.940 was like i don't know if you remember who it was probably you remember the show's better than i do

01:10:53.540 done i i remember every single one of them yep i'm a five white guys i'm an eight black guys

01:11:01.700 i i can't speak for black men so i'll let you

01:11:06.100 we gotta do better black guys come on now you gotta do better no i was on this

01:11:11.860 i'm gonna talk for too long we need to react motivated me to lose weight so i i and actually

01:11:17.380 it was funny because when i did lose weight it was because someone i mean they didn't bully me

01:11:22.180 direct oh that's what happened i remember it was someone i worked with and he was like he was like

01:11:29.540 i was about 200 i remember yeah and i had a crush on this guy too so it made it way worse

01:11:35.700 it's such a crush on him but they were talking about how they would never date a girl over 200

01:11:40.180 pounds and i was like no i'm over yeah i thought he was cute so i was like no well

01:11:45.220 pearl baby there's everybody for everybody what pearl baby does everything for everybody if you're

01:11:50.980 overweight you're 30 um you're 30 as a woman you're 30 percent like you're 30 less likely to

01:11:56.740 get you need to stop following statistics because you got listen yeah you don't know the power that

01:12:02.180 big women have they captivate men i've seen it's called the gluck gluck 9 000 a lot of the big

01:12:08.820 women learn how to do that when i was young big girls used to be nice and they used to sleep with

01:12:17.300 you really really fast and not really have ego but now with social media the big girls act like

01:12:23.620 the hot girls and it's just they have the same unrealistic standards it's like wait you can't

01:12:29.780 it's either you're a and hot or you're big and you're nice you you can't be big and a

01:12:38.820 just happened I've seen it happen I'm not even joking you're also six foot though I would say

01:12:46.920 200 pound on you would look very different on five foot four 200 pound oh it's not to say like

01:12:52.720 I know that's why they were making fun of it they didn't know how big I was at the time

01:12:56.100 but but no I was still overweight so it's still like I was still overweight when I looked at like

01:13:02.620 my numbers so you know but it helped me like I ended up losing like 30 pounds at the time so

01:13:08.660 and i never gained it back so you seem like a person who's well adjusted and quite mentally

01:13:13.640 stable though and i don't think that's the case for everybody and i think a lot of fat people

01:13:17.740 like you're overwhelmed nope nope you said it pia documented i do not think you are well adjusted

01:13:26.320 no no take backs

01:13:28.420 wait and that's disgusting they'll come for you and if you don't come for you that's never been

01:13:37.360 your nature you're never going to do that well yeah but i think the solution would be to maybe

01:13:41.360 stop comfort even eating and like figure something else out comforting is a coping mechanism that

01:13:46.400 people do that makes them overweight you know so when you tell someone like you're a fat cow they're

01:13:50.480 gonna be like oh i'm sad so i'm gonna come for you i think we change the definition of body positivity

01:13:55.520 because what body positivity is do you do health coaching or anything now pia no i've thought

01:14:02.480 about it i am i'm still i'm still thinking about it i do quite a lot though and people tell me that

01:14:08.160 maybe i do too much and that it might be unrealistic for other people so i'm just sort of working out

01:14:11.600 what would be normal for a normal person but i would quite like to because again like i do

01:14:15.120 understand like what i just said about comfort eating you have to be really fat to understand

01:14:20.080 what i'm saying there because i feel like normal people listen to that and they're like what why

01:14:23.520 would you eat more when someone would you fat but you do to me is numbers if you step on a scale

01:14:30.720 and you see some numbers and then you become a better version of yourself

01:14:34.920 every single day, week or month, and you see numbers that improve,

01:14:39.800 that's a positive result.

01:14:42.340 So body positivity is becoming better every day.

01:14:48.560 Yeah, but I feel like the question was, does body positivity promote health?

01:14:53.380 And it's not.

01:14:54.540 It does, yeah, exactly.

01:14:55.260 If you're telling people it's okay to be at a heavy weight or okay to be obese,

01:15:00.120 and that's not healthy by the science it's not possible to be healthy so to answer pearl's

01:15:06.040 question it doesn't promote health it doesn't promote positivity i would say it promotes mental

01:15:12.260 health not physical health no because that's not the aim of the game but in terms of mental health

01:15:17.500 and make people feel guilty about themselves and likely to make good choices about themselves i

01:15:21.100 don't i just would think the first step with mental health is you're eating still because

01:15:25.060 they say sugar affects your brain i i can pull up the research on it but i know there's like

01:15:29.300 negative mental health effects from sugar this is true but i think the point of body positivity

01:15:34.580 is not that i would agree with okay to be fat and to encourage people i found out the most

01:15:38.740 interesting fact the other day that women crave sugar because men need more protein so if women

01:15:48.100 are fat i've noticed it's because we eat too much sugar where if men are fat it's because they eat

01:15:52.020 like burgers and like more greasy stuff and beer i just i find that sugar is extremely addictive

01:16:00.100 and i don't eat a lot of sugar generally but when i do eat it i need it all the time

01:16:04.820 even if it's just fruit and i'm like oh i don't i don't like how that makes me feel

01:16:08.660 that's something i wasn't really aware of when i was big that i'm actually hyper aware of now

01:16:14.020 to be fat yeah in answer like i completely agree with you body positivity does not necessarily

01:16:19.380 promote health but it promotes not hating yourself while you look like what you look like don't waste

01:16:24.660 a perfectly good day inside feeling like you can't go to that party or you you know you can't go to

01:16:30.660 work and being a shut-in because you think people are gonna like take the mick out of you because

01:16:35.220 you're fat like don't waste a perfectly good life of fat people do you think do that where they

01:16:41.460 won't go outside because they're fat i think a lot of people hold themselves back from things

01:16:46.420 they want to do because of their weight i think a lot of people say i'll do this when i've lost

01:16:51.060 the weight i'll do this when i've lost the weight and they hold themselves back from doing the things

01:16:53.860 they want to do because they're not losing the weight whereas i actually think if they did the

01:16:57.380 things and enjoyed their life they'd be more likely to feel good about themselves and and lose the

01:17:01.540 weight like the one caveat i'll make and i'm curious if you agree i think it's hard to go out

01:17:08.340 drinking a lot and lose weight i think it's pretty difficult to lose weight with alcohol i've never

01:17:14.420 really been able to do it i drink i drink a decent amount but i drink very different things

01:17:21.940 i don't drink my calories at all when i go out drinking and i do go out drinking i will

01:17:26.340 occasionally binge drink i like to get drunk with my husband sometimes um i'll drink prosecco 80 to

01:17:32.420 120 calories a glass i'll drink gin and tonic with diet tonic i'll drink vodka and diet coke if i'm

01:17:39.140 in a club all of the drinks that i drink are mostly under 100 calories and so i know exactly

01:17:45.460 how much i'm drinking and what i'm having whereas before when i was big i would have sugary cocktails

01:17:49.940 i'd have pictures of cocktails and you have no idea because there's no like i don't know about

01:17:55.780 in the us but in the uk like there's calories listed on every single food you ever buy but

01:17:59.860 nothing on the drinks so you have to know what's in each drink and you don't know what's in cocktails

01:18:03.700 especially not like big pictures from weatherspoons like i was drinking when i was younger

01:18:07.220 um so yeah I do drink quite a lot of alcohol but not a lot but like a decent amount well

01:18:12.940 and I didn't cut it out if you binge drink and eat bad at the same night it could take you like

01:18:18.780 four days to get back like even a full one one weekend yeah one weekend I went out and I was

01:18:26.180 just curious what I used to do when I would drink and it was like I can't remember I think it was

01:18:33.920 like 5 000 calories i ate that night and drank which is yeah it's a ton and it's easy to do

01:18:40.200 like when you go to like a kebab ban after and stuff like that and now like i'll still eat those

01:18:44.320 things but i would buy my own i'll just eat other people's like if my husband buys like a massive

01:18:48.980 thing i'll have a little bit but i i won't buy my own i won't eat my own because when you're drunk

01:18:53.600 you can just sit there and eat and eat and eat i'll do you one better i remember at starbucks

01:18:57.800 they had a brownie mocha frappuccino if you got a venti brownie mocha frappuccino it was like

01:19:03.440 790 calories and like 110 grams of sugar and then jama juice if you go to like a juice place but

01:19:11.440 they have like a peanut butter chocolate one or the jama just had this peanut butter mood

01:19:16.400 a large one was 850 calories and 127 grams of sugar that's so bad 27 the sugar because i've

01:19:27.120 been good about calorie i'm trying to lose 10 to 15 more pounds that's like the end

01:19:33.280 then i'm done and it is the hardest thing for me is getting below like so bad but like 40 or 50

01:19:42.160 grams of sugar like i still i can do low calories but cutting the sugar is so hard for me it's

01:19:48.880 addictive it is addictive i find with sugar like i have to cut it out like if i eat so like i went

01:19:55.280 on my honeymoon and i had sugar on my honeymoon because i ate crap on my honeymoon which is normal

01:19:59.440 you know like i'm a normal person so when i came back i found it really hard to cut out sugar again

01:20:04.720 and i just had to do it and after three weeks of cutting out i could reintroduce it in small

01:20:08.560 amounts again but i had to be three weeks of nothing for me to be normal about it again

01:20:13.440 because it is addictive you're better than me i have not been able to go three weeks without it

01:20:20.720 because you're not where you want to be right now yeah like absolutely the body positivity movement

01:20:26.800 you know it should um focus on health a little bit more but i think for the individuals concerned

01:20:32.560 it's about not hating themselves and as i said not punishing themselves for not being where

01:20:36.080 they want to be well she's saying mental health but wouldn't it be better like in pearl's case

01:20:42.160 to get bullied and say hey you're getting a bit pudgy you're getting a bit fat maybe lose the

01:20:47.680 weight and that'll promote better mental health and you know you're more comfortable with how you

01:20:51.920 look yeah you're feeling healthier i don't know i'm not saying i'm for bullying but if it gets

01:20:56.720 you to forget you to a better place and more comfortable with how you look i i think it's uh

01:21:02.240 it's the right way to go especially when it comes to your physique and how you look and how

01:21:05.200 would you know that i also think people misplease body positivity with mental positivity so what

01:21:10.480 we're talking about is mental positivity like what you just explained is it's more in control

01:21:15.440 of the mind than the body because when you think about body positivity and that we're promoting

01:21:20.000 obesity or fat then it's not positive it's more going into the negative zone and statistically

01:21:26.560 numbers will show that wouldn't you rather have someone that pulls you aside and say hey i think

01:21:31.680 you're getting a little bit unhealthy or hey you're putting on some weight maybe you should hit the

01:21:35.760 gym eat healthier i'd like to have someone in my life like that put pull me in check but like you

01:21:41.120 know if you're fat like i've been skinny and i've been fat and i've known when i'm fat i don't need

01:21:46.480 anyone to tell me that i'm fat like i can see the numbers on the scale i can see all my clothes don't

01:21:50.480 fit like they used to do you know what i don't i don't know if a lot of fat people know how big they

01:21:56.480 are like not okay i think when they get to your size they do like in this video but around like

01:22:04.960 the one depending on the height like 170 ish to 220 mark i think a lot of women don't think they're fat

01:22:14.320 well it depends on your height to me it's all about waist to height ratio so it just depends

01:22:20.900 on your body composition and you know whether you exercise and things like that are so

01:22:25.400 important i had two doctors actually arguing with me whether i should continue losing weight when i

01:22:30.380 got to a healthy bmi because one of them was like no you go to the gym all the time don't lose any

01:22:33.720 more weight and the other one was like no you need to aim for a bmi of 21 to 22 that's the ideal

01:22:38.420 weight to be blah blah and the other doctor was like well actually you're more likely to survive

01:22:42.040 cancer and all sorts of other bad things happening if you stay at a bmi of 25 and that was when they

01:22:46.360 told me about the waist circumference and that being more important than than bmi

01:22:51.720 i agree with the waist circumference yeah you don't need someone to tell you if i don't know

01:22:57.640 it's like because every christmas at my grandma's house i would just know there's that one relative

01:23:02.760 that if i came back fatter they would say something to me and it kind of motivated you're

01:23:07.400 that relative i don't want that ant to you know but you know you know if you're fat like and

01:23:12.920 sometimes people talk to fat people like they're not self-aware like they they know you know i know

01:23:16.940 when i'm overweight i know i've been in incredibly good shape before like i was in drama school where

01:23:21.440 i was working out 12 hours a day but like now i'm not and i'm fat and i'm aware that i'm fat i don't

01:23:25.660 need anyone to tell me that i'm fat and bullying like i mean for me it doesn't really work because

01:23:29.880 i just phase it out i mean i'm like i've been online for a long time so the things that people

01:23:33.760 say don't affect me but for most people bullying famously does not work like it doesn't make me

01:23:39.280 people feel good it doesn't make them work harder i don't know you guys are speaking i don't know

01:23:44.200 what i have to say is body positivity is to me just really accepting the way you look and for me

01:23:54.920 ain't gonna lie i agree with to some i do agree with a lot of what you're saying and

01:24:00.440 but when you when being overweight has been an issue your whole life and then people are also

01:24:08.180 people also make comments as an adult like people have always just targeted you for that and to me

01:24:15.420 to be honest it just scrambled my head and it wasn't good for me um i guess if you plan on

01:24:22.300 staying fat the comments aren't really useful i don't think anybody plans on staying fat

01:24:30.440 i i would say that any any fat person that you gave a button that they could just press it and

01:24:35.560 they would be a healthy weight they would press it well yeah but i am okay it's like you could

01:24:43.040 say i never plan on being unemployed but you're not applying for jobs you know it's kind of the

01:24:49.520 same thing yeah but all of the people on this have expressed that they want to lose weight like all

01:24:55.800 of the people on that sofa have said i want to lose weight yeah but there's a difference between

01:24:59.580 stated preferences and revealed preferences so like you can say that you want to do something

01:25:06.100 but if you don't do it then you're showing you what your real preference is

01:25:09.320 i i see i see what you're saying but i just think it's it's a more complicated battle than that

01:25:15.340 okay there is a part where the trainer cooked i can't remember where

01:25:23.700 so body positivity i thought i remember i don't remember what he said but sometimes i'll remember

01:25:30.600 like when i see someone's face that i thought they cooked i will say he can at least string

01:25:36.240 an argument together the two in the bag like but yeah he can at least talk but i don't like him

01:25:43.480 to me is basically accepting the way you look and to be honest i hated i wasn't happy with my body

01:25:53.260 pearl i really wasn't and are you happy with it now i am okay okay firstly i'm like i am what i am

01:26:02.400 but i make i make conscious decisions like to eat healthy things yeah and i'm also not gonna lie and

01:26:09.300 say i'm the most healthiest because well you can't last week you were no no no no i mean i mean

01:26:16.500 there's just a certain weight you you can't you just can't tell me you eat healthy you're not

01:26:21.740 getting fat off of chicken and rice i i don't know what you're getting fat off of but it's not that

01:26:27.580 no no no no but yeah but today is about is where we are in a room with personal trainers yeah

01:26:34.120 of course i love chicken and tits and certain things um and i can't help it retool by in

01:26:42.580 moderation no no it's not about moderation my weight is old weight but i actually i can't have

01:26:48.220 it in the house otherwise i'll just eat the whole box no but i don't eat in the house my dad actually

01:26:53.160 has cancer so in my house everything is there's no processed food at all and that's why it's just

01:26:58.860 you know what the saddest thing i went on this news show in london if i said the name you'd

01:27:04.160 probably know the guy but i'm not going to think of his name and he was literally dying of cancer

01:27:09.020 and he was like super big and i'm like watching him eat candy as he's like dying of cancer

01:27:15.900 i'm like it was just kind of sad i'm like he's so addicted to sugar that like even though he's

01:27:21.820 he's like further kill it's like a guy dying of lung cancer smoking go ahead you know that a lot

01:27:27.420 of the reasons why bigger celebrities lose weight is because they have like a uh like a heart a

01:27:33.100 minor heart attack like a monique she she made a whole career off of making fun of thin women

01:27:39.820 and then she had a heart attack and she lost i guarantee you lizzo lizzo probably had a mild

01:27:44.220 heart attack because a lot of these women especially well you know of a certain anyway

01:27:50.140 they don't lose weight unless you know they have a serious health issue or death is starting to

01:27:55.580 stare them in the face she's young and has money though i feel like lizzie was just like nah

01:28:03.420 she's gonna do it she's losing weight now she's in her late 30s in and with 300 she is

01:28:12.460 five foot eight and weighed 310 pounds at like 35 that's when the health problems really start to

01:28:17.980 say i guarantee you lizza probably had uh a mild heart attack for for her to be that body positive

01:28:24.620 and lose weight something had to have happened i guarantee you she had a medication how long do

01:28:29.820 300 pound people live and let's see if i can i'm gonna play this and see if i can find the answer

01:28:36.460 actually you have to if you want to drink you have to juice it yourself if you want to get ice cream

01:28:42.700 you want to you to make it yourself and that's full of vitacocles like boxes so that's how it

01:28:48.380 goes and then there's not even a microwave at home as well so i can't actually heat my food

01:28:56.460 like everything is basically in the best way that i can cook and what about the people out there who

01:29:02.460 are maybe in a similar situation to you where they don't have access to processed or unhealthy foods

01:29:08.400 at home but they still seek those things when they're out of the house what what would you say

01:29:12.640 to those people who actively seek unhealthy food I'd say my advice honestly would be

01:29:20.260 you don't want it says you lose eight to ten years of life on average if you're a little bit

01:29:28.240 ob if you're moderate obesity three years lost morbid obesity eight to ten um

01:29:38.480 some are saying up to 20 years that i'm seeing but that's the those are the that's what i'm finding

01:29:48.720 a heart attack you don't want to die early you want to survive you want to build some memories

01:29:55.280 you want to be a grandmother or a grandpa and it's important to actually think and that's what i mean

01:30:01.200 you need to but wouldn't that be a better message for the body positivity movement to say rather

01:30:06.720 than love yourself 100 like what you just said you just because you you could you could get

01:30:12.560 cancelled nowadays for what sugar puff okay no because it's like you know if like lizzo comes

01:30:17.840 out and says hey i'm i'm i want to start losing weight all the fans start coming for her and you

01:30:24.320 know she just wants to better herself and get healthy it's like did that happen i don't think

01:30:30.400 people came for her do they yeah they did quite aggressively actually and they started yelling

01:30:38.000 at her and saying that she wasn't supporting what she said um they started saying oh you're taking

01:30:43.120 the easy way out you're using authentic stuff like that oh i've only seen people being like

01:30:49.200 yeah i've only seen people being like yay go you but i don't know i don't know lizzo fans on it so

01:30:55.600 i don't know i don't know either i was just i was just curious because yeah people are crashing out

01:31:01.520 because lizza lost weight it's all over social media what if she actually gets hot now she's

01:31:07.280 like almost hot she's always had a good face card always look this has always had a pretty face it's

01:31:15.040 just been under freaking all that fat but she's always been had a pretty face coming around

01:31:24.000 sorry what i feel like doug's coming around he's he's slowly he's like yeah do you know what lisa

01:31:28.880 could be fit like no no no no no no no lisa needs to lose i said she's always had a nice face card

01:31:36.320 it's just a shame that her face is bad like lisa could have been an attractive woman she she could

01:31:42.800 could be right now if she were to lose all the weight but until she loses weight she's gonna

01:31:46.240 have a problem but like the worst is when you see a woman that could be pretty but she doesn't give

01:31:51.980 an f that's horrible especially i talked about this with pearl if you see a woman

01:31:59.480 that could get results but doesn't do the work to get the results but if they could win it has

01:32:06.860 to piss you off as a woman what do you mean no it does well not like it's like women i've seen

01:32:17.300 women with an eight plus face so again because i had to do casting for the shows right i'm very

01:32:23.800 good at determining how attractive women are because i would literally have to think about

01:32:29.440 who is going to be in the thumbnails who is the prettiest one to get the most clicks that's how

01:32:35.780 I have to think about it. So that's why I can categorize women to how attractive they are,

01:32:42.180 because I literally had to do it for my job. Like on this panel, you would have hit the thumbnail,

01:32:48.120 even at the 300 pound mark, you're the prettiest one on the panel. You probably were on the

01:32:53.040 thumbnail. Okay. So, so when I see women that are an eight plus where they could actually be

01:33:02.580 beautiful and get opportunities that like women would dream about having but they're fat it's like

01:33:10.100 it's a shame because you could have been ugly you could have been ugly but you're like at an

01:33:15.700 eight plus mark like you could get like women that beautiful could have instagrams that are

01:33:22.740 completely unknown and they're just they're just like paid to exist like when i went something

01:33:28.740 weird when i went to the weekend concert they let like all of us go backstage and i met women like

01:33:33.780 that they have like no instagram following but they're just paid to party like what but yeah go

01:33:38.740 ahead so i get less instagram likes now than i did when i was bigger like if i post a bikini pic now

01:33:44.580 it gets less likes than it did when i was bigger yeah because it's a female app so i'm sure you're

01:33:49.460 following you're on tick tock so what is it 80 women 70. uh it's like 60 women 40 men for most

01:33:57.780 of my profiles except which which is heavily men yeah so that's why is because for female audiences

01:34:06.580 if you get to be too pretty they don't like you anymore i don't know if that's true well i follow

01:34:13.460 a lot of attractive women so okay i i know but the women you've said are attractive aren't actually

01:34:20.500 attractive like i know i can i can name people that are attractive that would be stereotypically

01:34:26.980 attractive like margot robbie i would follow margot robbie and everything i find her very

01:34:30.200 attractive okay so margot robbie but the problem is margot robbie now is a 6.5 okay but who's hot

01:34:38.440 now that i might like the uh i'll tell you so the problem the the challenge we have now is that

01:34:44.740 hollywood because movies are made for women they do they rarely cast women that are in an eight

01:34:50.460 plus category i can't think of anybody in hollywood right now that i would give an eight plus

01:34:55.940 the most attractive one off the top of my head is sydney sweeney i would say her body is but

01:35:02.160 facially i still would give her a 6.5 maybe 7 i actually i think you have a more symmetrical face

01:35:09.220 than sydney sweeney i think sydney is beautiful but i i personally don't find her attractive but

01:35:15.120 i do find margot robbie very attractive margot robbie young i would give an eight plus but she

01:35:19.840 i don't think she's aged for she's good now no i don't think she just has one of those faces that

01:35:26.720 don't age the best she's cute still but i just wouldn't give her i wouldn't put her in the same

01:35:33.280 eight plus category i'd say six seven i'd give her a seven i do not think 99.9 percent of people in

01:35:39.760 this world would kick margot robbie out of bed and be like most men will take five pluses they'll

01:35:45.120 go plus but it's the difference is the difference is most men take above a five but the difference

01:35:50.640 is how far would they drive to hit that's how you can see how hot you are i think most men would

01:35:55.760 drive cross-country for margot robbie whether she's over 30 or not like i'm just throwing it out well

01:36:02.720 no i don't i don't think so it depends on the options of the guy um okay let me do you know

01:36:08.960 who let me do rapid fire us choirs um most beautiful women right now and you can say if

01:36:14.240 they're mid or not pearl do you mind uh give me the names and i'll look it up hold on let me

01:36:18.080 show the screen so i can the audience can see uh so i'll put the article in the the the private

01:36:26.720 chat and you can show it or no just oh okay so so okay so rapid fire and say if she's admitted

01:36:36.560 not pro okay wait wait wait hold on let me pull it up let me pull it up share this tab ahead okay

01:36:42.240 oh no okay mad so lupita emma watson blake lively blake lively used to be beautiful now she's mad

01:36:55.260 um mad oh my god this is bad mad zoe kravitz is a mid emma watson is a mid

01:37:02.560 uh natalie portman is a mid you're so wrong jessica chastain was never attractive

01:37:11.340 mid mid they're they're pretty for their age but they're not hot like compared to okay

01:37:18.360 let me these are all mids i mean this is going to be a waste of my time let me show you one

01:37:23.220 let me let me let me look up if you want to do alabama sorority sisters

01:37:32.980 guarantee there'll be hotter girls in this um actually let's do the dance that they showed

01:37:40.780 that's actually the hottest girls i've seen oh yeah of the sororities alabama or sorority

01:37:47.480 tiktok dances and i'll point out to you women that i was oh you're cracking me up

01:37:54.220 no because it's just like yes it's cool uh beautiful beautiful i got it right here

01:38:01.060 i gotta i gotta turn off the sound but these these girls i mean they're better looking than

01:38:07.660 all the celebrities we listed better looking probably better looking i can't tell under the

01:38:14.000 makeup but better looking you share the screen oh you can't see it says i'm sharing oh my gosh

01:38:22.200 i haven't seen my thing in a while oh my gosh i forgot to click it

01:38:25.380 i just feel like if any of those women were on that list you would have been like not mid

01:38:31.660 i wouldn't i wouldn't um if you want to do a famous one because here i'll show you the

01:38:38.720 difference. So if I pull up Sydney Sweeney, if I look at her facial symmetry, I just don't think

01:38:48.140 like she has a great body. She has a natural boob, small waist, but her face just isn't that

01:38:54.540 symmetrical. But if I take like Megan Fox Young, let me do one with less makeup. I just think she

01:39:04.500 has a more symmetrical face she's got boobs and butt i would just put her higher i don't love the

01:39:15.940 heavy makeup look but margo i think margo robbie young had the best face card but you'll notice

01:39:22.140 women only support these women when they age out because women can't take women they so you'll

01:39:28.780 notice that when they're young they're cast in movies made for men so like this was her in wolf

01:39:33.860 of wall street then she ages out and she's definitely not ugly but you know that's just

01:39:40.140 not the same eight uh six seven eight six seven well she was 22 she's a 30 year old woman in the

01:39:50.740 other photo yeah i know and i mean that's what happens most people i mean they just they age

01:39:56.700 out it's okay did you see that scarlett johansson she she turned 40 and she's like most of my career

01:40:03.120 was built off of the male gaze and it wasn't fair and uh you know so she's talking trash about the

01:40:10.240 fact that she was a sex symbol when she was younger she's trying to preemptively tackle

01:40:15.680 the fact that she's 40 and there's hotter women coming up so she's trashing the male gaze now

01:40:21.340 because she aged out even her face i'd say seven face eight plus body she has like a perfect body

01:40:29.720 but i mean that's how i rate it as i do because you have to understand most people are in the

01:40:35.000 four to six category so it's not an insult it just means you're normal i just don't i i think

01:40:40.520 i just don't think about it that much like i see very attractive people all the time and it's it's

01:40:44.760 just not you know i have two for you pearl do do a young a young denise richards and a young

01:40:52.040 facey dash okay let me see why did these people share your screen again because you stopped

01:41:00.120 so do a young denise richards miss richards

01:41:09.560 and give her a rating oh she's beautiful um wow she is dang near a perfect face um let me see

01:41:18.920 let me make sure more she has a great face um let me see full body she's got boobs yeah i would

01:41:30.120 have given her like a solid nine back yeah i was i was about to say nine um and then a young stacy

01:41:35.560 dash stacy dash i was gonna say nine uh oh i've seen her she's got the light eyes which adds to it

01:41:45.240 but my first celebrity crush

01:41:51.720 uh i'd give her let me see your body i'm my gut says 7.58 um because she's really close to

01:42:01.080 beautiful but her face is just a little bit i think it's a big like she's like in some pictures

01:42:07.080 i think she's beautiful but then i'll see ones where i think i'm gonna say eight i'm gonna say

01:42:13.160 eight but i'll just see ones like this occasionally where i'm like

01:42:19.720 yeah i'm gonna say eight final answer

01:42:23.800 cool yeah so that's how i do my ratings pia i just i don't it's like another world to me

01:42:30.280 because i just don't think about people like that like when i see celebrities they're just like they

01:42:35.160 are this abstract concept of this is probably a beautiful woman like when i see even youtubers

01:42:40.440 and influencers like most influencers i know are beautiful people they just are and i don't like

01:42:46.200 there's no like number rating system no offense i just can't trust your ratings after the rating

01:42:52.600 i think she's beautiful okay wait i'll give you a more acceptable one that destroyed all

01:42:57.960 tara yummy i think she is a smoke show 10 out of 10. let me see tara yummy i follow

01:43:04.600 she she's pretty but i would not put her above in it's tough i think she looks like a young hold

01:43:14.040 on let me show megan fox slash uh she's the best rating you've given but i need to see a body

01:43:20.600 picture no she's like a six come on no yeah you guys are crazy like the fact that i'm telling you

01:43:30.520 you're not going to find an influencer with a female audience that's not mid women feel too

01:43:36.920 icky when they see women too hot i was going to give her a seven actually i was going to give her

01:43:42.840 a seven but i can't see she might be she might i can't tell her flat women don't women so men

01:43:50.120 subtract more for women being flat than women do so for women it's skinny first um curve second

01:43:57.960 then it's curves first like they like boobs and butt so that's always if i ever forget to do bad

01:44:04.920 on a rating it's usually because i overrated skinny and underrated boobs and butt but again

01:44:12.680 i just don't think about people like like when i think of like oh that's a beautiful person i'm not

01:44:16.840 thinking like do they have xyz do they have this do they have that you know it's not like a tick

01:44:21.160 box in my head i'm just like oh that's a really beautiful girl well i do a lot of like mid-watch

01:44:25.640 on this show so i have i have categories like i talk about the trends that beautiful women do

01:44:33.160 because beautiful women will go to an a level city where midwomen will go to generally a b

01:44:38.120 level city because midwomen can't compete in the a levels you know so that i do a lot of

01:44:44.680 societal trends so i gotta i gotta rate you to see what you can get you know in the open market

01:44:49.880 it and and i would say p.m maybe that you you you've grown up in the age of mids i mean people

01:44:58.680 try to say that like who's that millie bobby brown she is a dog and a half and people are like oh

01:45:06.760 no she's not even close no way you you've grown up in the age of mids so i think the the days of

01:45:14.200 having nines and tens in movies was literally before your time like we had the pamela anderson

01:45:19.240 and stuff back in my day but like the the women the zendaya's and the zoe kravitz's and the millie

01:45:25.240 bobby brown's they're like sixes and six maybe sevens at best and they're all over hollywood

01:45:30.760 right now come on is that not a good thing no i don't agree with you but like why why do we need

01:45:40.360 okay so that's like i'm gonna tell you the equivalent so the equivalent of that for men

01:45:46.360 it's like why don't we have people in the rec league playing in the nba so i don't know what

01:45:51.560 that means okay so all right you don't know what the nba is is that basketball basketball league

01:46:01.880 england doesn't have basketball um what is the football league called there i don't remember

01:46:09.320 i don't like like the world cup or like the premier league so that's like saying why out

01:46:15.880 like that would be like if the men came forward and they said i need to be more inclusive can

01:46:20.840 we have more rec league players in the premier league can we have like okay okay so and that's

01:46:26.840 the equivalent is hollywood everyone's supposed to be beautiful that's the point but i i don't

01:46:32.680 know i don't know if i'd agree with that because i think diversity is really good to have yeah no

01:46:37.640 because no no no she's she's right according to the female lens she's proving my point because

01:46:42.760 that's what women do men organize on how good they are so men like hierarchy where women always want

01:46:49.000 it to be egalitarian they want everyone to be equal and like feel good so it's not necessarily

01:46:53.800 about equal i just think it's nice for kids to see like when i i don't know you might have had

01:46:58.040 this as a ginger kid like when i was a ginger kid growing up i loved the little mermaid because she

01:47:02.120 was the ginger princess and so i think about like i think minorities anymore like you know i feel

01:47:08.360 like do you know we keep getting like we keep getting replaced like all of the ginger women

01:47:14.200 spider-man man was replaced the little mermaid they like gingers are the first to go

01:47:20.920 i just there's a redhead genocide in hollywood right now i think it's nice to see people like

01:47:26.440 you on screen and like as a ginger i feel that way so i can imagine like if i was an ethnic minority

01:47:31.560 whatever i would definitely feel that way where i'd i'd want to see myself on screen

01:47:35.480 the minorities have enough screen time they have plenty they have plenty bring back the ginger

01:47:42.040 screen time i want an eight plus no mid give me a ginger that makes me feel bad about myself thank

01:47:49.560 you i'm just gonna say this real fast so i think anything that you have to be successful at or

01:47:55.080 anything you make money at requires work right so like my day job i have to get up i have to commute

01:48:01.000 i have to sit in front of a computer i don't want to do it but i have to do it to make money right

01:48:05.720 so i don't mind the fact that female models have to be like 5 foot 11 and 125 pounds you want to

01:48:12.200 know why because that's hard not a lot of people can do it you have to make sacrifices to be that

01:48:18.520 thin plus size models what what work do they have to do mids like there's no rarity there's no work

01:48:27.320 there's nothing if you want to be a supermodel it should take sacrifice i want to see you eating

01:48:32.200 coffee uh uh cotton balls and freaking smoking cigarettes and drinking water that's what because

01:48:38.680 that's hard anything that requires a lot of money should be hard and we've lowered the bar so low

01:48:45.080 now i hate it i just yeah i don't know why you think that though like i just don't relate to

01:48:53.320 that feeling of like these people need to work hard you need to suffer to have success like i

01:48:57.320 think if you have success you have success and that's good for you is that is that so bad like

01:49:02.440 it's because it's because you're a woman right yeah i know

01:49:06.760 i don't know what do you mean like i don't even think it's about working for success it's not

01:49:15.480 it's like the issue with a lot of this like body positivity and diversity like did you see that

01:49:20.200 beauty pageant like i think a year ago where a plus-size woman won first place over somebody's

01:49:26.280 skinny like like the point is that the plus size woman basically just showed up put on a pretty

01:49:31.100 dress and then won first place whereas the person who was skinny she did a calorie deficit she worked

01:49:37.820 out she went on walks she woke up early so she could work out before she went and practiced for

01:49:41.400 her beauty pageant it's not about suffering it's about putting in the work to like win it's the

01:49:47.660 same thing with like all the diversity that's going on I don't know if you know Purdue University

01:49:51.580 um i forgot what state they're in but you're more likely to get into that university if you're black

01:49:56.800 or of another minority rather than if you're white my one of my friends one of my really

01:50:01.420 good friends got rejected from that university even though she had over 4.0 gpa she had great

01:50:06.980 test scores but a different person i know didn't have a 4.0 but they were black and they got in

01:50:12.780 so it's not about it's not about um that just sounds like such an anecdotal thing i don't want

01:50:19.420 to get into like race debates because one i live in england and in america i think there's quite

01:50:24.140 different environment over there but like i yeah i don't i don't want to get into that i'll talk

01:50:28.540 about body positivity but like when it comes to yeah but i think she's just about the

01:50:33.980 yeah it's just about like the inclusivity it's the same thing with like we shouldn't have fat

01:50:39.240 people winning beauty pageants because the skinny people work 10 times harder to win and they lose

01:50:43.660 to fat people because we're saying fat people are allowed in these things and they should win and

01:50:48.180 saying that they are a 10 even though they're two okay and i think that that like i think that's

01:50:56.420 cope do you know what i mean like i think it's i think it is silly if something is based solely on

01:51:00.980 like a bikini round and this and that like the objective standard is like no the plus size

01:51:05.460 person should not win that i would agree with you there if there's like positive discrimination

01:51:10.340 towards these people which is what i i'm assuming you're applying um yeah i do think that that's

01:51:14.980 silly like no like fat person should win the biggest loser like that wouldn't make sense you

01:51:18.820 know but um i lost my like i was a plus size model and i lost my plus size modeling contract

01:51:24.260 because i lost weight like you know it's it's more about representation and clothes and a lot

01:51:30.420 of the modeling i did was wardrobe modeling which is when you go in and you are a set size and they

01:51:35.220 just do the clothes to you like it's not to do with like oh i don't want to see this fat model

01:51:39.860 on my screen it was just like no but it is indirectly though because women are buying

01:51:45.620 and so it just if you follow the female dollar it makes sense because there's going to be more

01:51:50.500 jobs there's more fat women now so there's good and women can't deal with like women on screen

01:51:56.740 being hotter so they'll just have more jobs for fat women and fat models and and the sad part about

01:52:03.060 it is um a guy will see chris evans in avengers with his shirt off and be like and it'll inspire

01:52:11.260 him to go to the gym right a woman will see pia here and be like and feel threatened and be like

01:52:19.340 oh she shouldn't be there they'll see scarlet johanser or some attractive woman and feel

01:52:24.820 threatened or triggered by it so why can men be inspired inspired by men that are in shape and

01:52:32.980 have ads but women are triggered by it i just yeah that was gonna be in my opinion sorry sorry

01:52:40.280 i was gonna say that's my point when you said earlier that you lost all your instagram likes

01:52:46.680 when you got skinny it's because you were fat and then you got skinny so all these women

01:52:50.100 were liking your pictures because they're like oh i'm prettier than her i'm stuff like that

01:52:53.740 and then you lost weight you got skinnier than these women and now these women don't want to

01:52:57.920 have anything to do with you because they feel intimidated by you because you got skinny because

01:53:02.160 you lost the weight because you're prettier now i i'm sure that there is a degree of that

01:53:07.840 within people but i think it's quite pessimistic to think that that is everybody

01:53:11.640 like your view of this is what all women feel like i don't feel intimidated when i feel i see

01:53:17.300 an attractive woman and i didn't when i was fat when i was fat all of my friends were thin like

01:53:20.900 i had a couple of fat friends but all of my friends were beautiful thin women you know and

01:53:24.980 they still are because they're the same friends my husband was then my husband still is then he's

01:53:29.060 the same man but like i don't know i just i didn't feel that way i think if you're comfortable in

01:53:33.380 yourself you you don't feel that way like i i think it's great to have everyone on tv i think

01:53:38.500 it's nice i like seeing incredibly attractive people as much as i like seeing people that

01:53:42.500 represent you every show well i don't think you can pick out incredibly attractive people based

01:53:48.180 on who you selected which is normal for women it's normal for women that's i just it's pretty

01:53:55.300 normal for women if you picked them like you picked out the most attractive people ever to

01:54:00.260 make a tv show as you have with pre-game you said i picked out the most attractive girls i could to

01:54:04.600 put on the thumbnails fine like i you know i wouldn't ever have anything against those women

01:54:09.680 and if i thought they had something positive to say i would follow them and encourage them and

01:54:12.500 and i like their stuff you know i just think people need to be more comfortable with themselves

01:54:16.720 yeah well I'll let I'll close out on that point um because we are about to hit the two hour mark

01:54:24.600 but yeah thank you so much for coming it seems like thanks for having me I was thinking your

01:54:30.620 opinions would have changed a little bit but it seems like they're pretty much the same

01:54:34.520 which is fine you know I'm happy for you either way um do you have any final thoughts you want

01:54:40.240 tell the crowd the people uh i don't know thanks for having me oh should i say some things uh trans

01:54:48.320 rights are human rights uh oh that's actually i actually love you could actually put all your

01:54:54.960 beliefs like that because um it helps me stay monetized so yeah that's fine go ahead put list

01:55:00.640 them all oh uh do you know what i can't actually think of anything else i believe in body positivity

01:55:06.320 you should wear a bikini you know what wear whatever you want guys like if you feel comfortable

01:55:09.440 just where i don't listen to these people on the internet they won't say it in real life

01:55:11.840 even pearl just admit she won't say it in real life trans rights are human rights we love trans

01:55:16.560 people here lgbt we love the lgbt rights you're a queen don't vote for trump you're a queen

01:55:22.800 i actually don't know who the other competitor is in america but trump trump's kind of off the

01:55:27.520 radar right i don't know anyway i feel like the chat's really like me and now i'm gonna

01:55:32.640 it's fine it'll stay monetized your english your your opinion about trump doesn't count so

01:55:38.000 you know we're actually looking to do more debate shows like once or twice a week so

01:55:42.480 we'd love to have you back if you do want to argue some points so

01:55:46.320 i always love to argue i'll message you and if you're free feel free to

01:55:50.800 um now that you're thin we'll be nice

01:55:55.680 let's go you guys are terrible people you'll actually objectively i've i've where's your

01:56:01.760 where are your thin people i have my sister on the line my brother's friend and now

01:56:08.000 we should have got sugar puff is he thin now no but i lost that instagram so i lost everybody's

01:56:17.300 instagram pretty much his name's sugar puff just such sugar you'll find him he's funny my phone

01:56:23.440 died but i will um you should have got him on to talk about body positivity again

01:56:27.260 yeah totally um doug mpa you got any final thoughts um yeah you you should want to be

01:56:34.560 in good health so the people that love you on this planet you can be here for them to love you

01:56:40.000 as long as possible and you're going to be here longer enough to do that if you are not a fat

01:56:46.080 slob whale okay um i'm really glad that pia lost all the way i can't believe it's the same person

01:56:52.560 don't discount all of the work you've done because it kind of sounds like you you're doing that and

01:56:57.980 also stop there's going to be a time where you're going to have to stop caping for these people

01:57:03.260 because they will not reciprocate the support that you have for them back.

01:57:08.300 They're going to eat you alive because you care about your health.

01:57:11.940 You're a good-looking woman.

01:57:13.560 You're married, especially if you have a family.

01:57:16.080 Watch.

01:57:16.640 If you have a family and you're in shape, they're going to eat you alive.

01:57:20.300 So just watch out because you're giving support to people that want to support you back.

01:57:25.240 But thank you for coming on.

01:57:26.700 I really, really appreciate it.

01:57:28.620 And I promise I'd be nice this time.

01:57:31.500 I think I did a pretty good job.

01:57:33.260 eva you got any final thoughts i mean not really i'm kind of just here to be here

01:57:42.220 get an instagram message saying hey you want to come to be on about fat people i said hey

01:57:46.140 my phone died i couldn't text you but okay um well eva if you want to come back let me know

01:57:55.620 if not it's okay too i just hey i'm always here i thought of you on stream when we were talking

01:58:01.760 so okay um thank you guys all for coming um thank you guys for watching the show and let me know

01:58:08.780 what you guys want to talk or let me know if you guys have any former showed guests you want to

01:58:13.240 you want me to bring back for a check-in maybe we could reach out like the video subscribe to

01:58:19.000 the channel and i will see you all next time

Pearl - August 28, 2025

Pia Said She Was Happy At Any Size.....And Then Lost 150 lbs

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