Pearl - Piers Morgan COPES Over Losing Nick Fuentes Debate

00:00:00.000 what up guys so um i was running a little late last night

00:00:11.200 i was running a little i'm a little late

00:00:20.500 i might have um pushed the stream till the morning

00:00:30.640 because i got really sick and i got oh my god i felt like dying yesterday

00:00:36.720 i don't know why i i almost thought i got strep you know i want to make sure we're live because

00:00:42.480 i let this stream be scheduled i think for 24 i was like i am so

00:00:52.160 oh is this not live i don't see it

00:01:00.000 What did I do wrong? What did I do? Edit? Is it private?

00:01:17.520 What am I doing wrong? I mean, I'm sure I messed this up. If you guys are seeing this on,

00:01:26.840 where are you seeing it from because i see it says i'm live it says okay on twitter it's live

00:01:33.000 i don't think i'm live on youtube don't know if i'm live on youtube

00:01:40.600 let me go into the studio

00:01:47.720 oh i am live oh it's private here we go make it public

00:01:51.400 there we go there we go

00:01:57.620 i do apologize um now that youtube's coming in you see it on x

00:02:04.640 i do apologize for the people that watched yesterday and were i think i i scheduled this

00:02:13.440 two days in a row. I just felt awful. I just felt awful. I felt like I was dying.

00:02:25.260 So today we are going to be reacting to Pierce Morgan and crashing out on Nick Fuentes. Now,

00:02:32.880 as you guys know, I had Nick Fuentes on the show and he was a pleasure. Unfortunately,

00:02:41.620 when I had Nick Fuentes on the show, everybody crashed out

00:02:45.720 on me for having him on. But now everyone and their mother's having him on.

00:02:54.860 Everybody's

00:02:55.460 having him on.

00:03:01.120 All right.

00:03:03.540 So last week I covered

00:03:05.720 Piers Morgan crashing out on Nick Fuentes. Now

00:03:09.500 we're gonna watch the aftermath of everybody arguing if Nick Fuentes

00:03:18.800 basically was interviewed the right way this weird scissor replaced please I'm

00:03:25.320 sorry if I'm I'm low-energy I am just this is just not this has not been my

00:03:30.800 week all right let's react you love my hair thank you i'm getting used to the bangs i don't know if

00:03:40.800 i'm styling them right but also guys anyone that's been following my fitness journey i hit my lowest

00:03:48.320 weight i think since high school today i got sick so i've barely been eating um but hey it still

00:03:55.600 counts. That's called a calorie cut. That's called a calorie cut. So my goal is, I don't know if I

00:04:07.180 want to say how what weight I am. I used to be embarrassed about my weight. I'm not really

00:04:12.240 embarrassed anymore. But I don't, I get my feelings hurt sometimes. So if I tell you guys my goal

00:04:19.920 weight, people always are, I'm going to do it. I'm going to, I'm going to tell you. All right.

00:04:23.760 so my goal weight is I want to be 155 pounds. But when I say that, cause I'm six feet, people are

00:04:31.420 always like, oh, well you should be one 30. And I'm like, bitch, I can barely get to one 50. 0.98

00:04:37.620 I want to be like one 50 to one 55. That's like the range I want to hit. 0.99

00:04:42.420 They're like, oh, well you should be one 20, one 30. I'm like, all right, I'll just go. You know,

00:04:47.760 You know, it's like how, um, I'm going to brag, fuck it, fuck it. 1.00

00:04:55.560 This is my show, my show. 1.00

00:04:57.760 You know, it's great in the real world.

00:05:00.400 You have to care about what you say, um, because otherwise, um, all right, this was

00:05:08.340 me at the gym yesterday.

00:05:09.460 We're going to share, we're going to share.

00:05:12.160 um yeah i was 185 for a long time um but i was always like an athletic 185 all right so that's

00:05:24.900 me uh we're out 163 what will 162.8 uh what do i say to men that like a little bit of chub well 0.93

00:05:36.400 you're probably black. So I'm six feet. So I was debating, I'm like, how much, 0.69

00:05:42.240 what body fat percent do you think I'm at? Cause I did a scale when I was like, uh, eight pounds

00:05:48.740 heavier and it said I was 22% body fat cause I'm high muscle. But chat GPT said I'm higher than

00:05:55.300 that. Uh, so I don't know. I don't know. I'm trying to get to, I'm thinking I want to get

00:06:03.040 to 19% body fat, which I looked up was like 150 to 155, but then people, you

00:06:09.700 know, I was asking on Twitter and I'm like, well, what, what should I get to

00:06:13.540 guys? And then here, let me, let me show you guys. Then the, the comments, they

00:06:18.040 come back and they say, you know, um, mid 130 pounds. And I'm like 135. I'm

00:06:30.800 already so hungry now i'm already starving well okay and this is the other thing then people come

00:06:39.440 in and say well that's going to be too thin well you probably just can't get thin women 1.00

00:06:43.760 because i don't think that's too thin at all and if it does get too thin

00:06:49.360 now let's say i start looking anorexic do you know what'll be easy for me to do

00:06:53.600 gain it back like do you know how easy it is for former fat people to gain weight

00:07:00.800 Oh, my God.

00:07:16.320 Mackinac says 130 to 140.

00:07:20.680 I'm going to be so sad.

00:07:26.400 Oh, my God.

00:07:27.440 I, oh my God, this is what I mean. It's like, also I am going to call you guys, but I like

00:07:40.100 this week has just not been the week. It might have to wait till after Christmas. I'm sorry.

00:07:47.640 I'm sorry. I've been promising this for a while. It's going to happen. Uh, one 30 to one 35 is

00:07:52.580 good. All right. Then I'll just kill myself. I'll just kill myself because I, you know,

00:07:58.180 I've been doing this fitness journey and all honestly, honestly, it takes me months to lose 0.93

00:08:04.080 10 pounds. I'm not one of those bitches that loses 10 pounds in a month. Um, so, okay. That 1.00

00:08:11.060 like, Oh my God. If I went to one 35, I'm trying to get to one 55 by mid to end of January.

00:08:18.600 that's another 20 pounds

00:08:23.220 I've worked so hard I didn't even use Ozempic I should have I mean Shiv seen me in spaces taking

00:08:38.400 steps you know I can't afford Ozempic and if if I really got to get to 135 then it might be time

00:08:48.600 it might be, you know, I'm going to skip Dr. Phil.

00:09:14.020 This is going to be like the lowest energy show you've ever seen. I'm sorry. I want to,

00:09:17.880 want to prep it now this is going to be bad you should leave now you should leave this is not i'm

00:09:23.080 kind of sick i've had some personal stuff going on i'm kind of out of it and

00:09:37.240 yeah you know i just this is gonna be a bad show this is gonna be a bad show but

00:09:41.720 i'm gonna do my best

00:09:42.680 you're my cousin's friend okay that does not narrow it down do you know how many cousins I

00:09:49.400 have do you have any idea how many cousins I have all right um let's all right let's let's react

00:10:10.880 let's stop talking about me you know let's react to pierce morgan you're my cousin okay

00:10:17.680 we'll say your name i don't think i have a cousin named nikki

00:10:23.360 i as a she was a model as a teenager she was five nine and they wanted her to be 117 pounds 1.00

00:10:29.840 she was a she smoked two packs of cigs a day and drank black coffee and apples for years yeah 0.85

00:10:40.880 Yeah, that's, I can't do that. Like, I love food. I'm just getting to the point where I can cut

00:10:49.060 sugar. Abs are visible at 18%. I think I'm getting close to abs.

00:10:59.580 the vast majority of people are a product of their environment and if nick fuentes through his own

00:11:13.080 through his own story about his parents there and particularly his father if he grew up in

00:11:18.820 in an environment of overt racism with his father saying i'm not taking you to certain restaurants

00:11:25.760 because they're associated with black fare then you can begin to understand why he himself has

00:11:34.240 become overtly racist we're so over people cycling like psychoanalyzing is for women 0.83

00:11:41.840 psychoanalyzing that's for women to do thank you to the new member i appreciate it

00:11:46.080 i appreciate it it's an indeed is proud of it so to me it was a very relevant question

00:11:52.560 But again, it can't be an ambush if all I'm doing is asking him about a story he himself put in the public domain.

00:12:01.360 He did introduce it into the public domain with great fanfare and having a great time doing it.

00:12:08.300 Look, the most powerful role model in any child's life is the same-sex parent.

00:12:14.960 They write on the slate of who their children are, and they start doing that from a very early age.

00:12:22.560 And they ride on the slate emotionally, socially, in terms of values, thinking process.

00:12:32.200 So you're quite right to bring that up.

00:12:35.100 If you want to know who someone is, you need to look at from whence they came.

00:12:38.960 And that doesn't mean they don't have a chance to alter that when they get other world views.

00:12:44.980 But certainly that's a relevant subject matter that he introduced.

00:12:49.360 he just introduced it when no one was calling him out or questioning him about that's a boomer thing

00:12:55.840 and you can tell these men are run by women yeah you know it's it's funny it came out that pierce's

00:13:01.760 wife like totally embarrassed him online like she was joking about banging other men um all this like 0.99

00:13:09.280 crazy stuff and um i could have told you that because the it's like the mindset they have

00:13:21.440 where they think you know you need to push back okay doug mpa told me to go he's saying dr phil

00:13:26.880 is dry so i i agree thank you doug mpa i was thinking i should have asked you before the show

00:13:33.040 but i was just feeling a little bit better and i'm like do you know what i think i gaslit them

00:13:38.320 for like four hours yesterday and the day before that i was coming on i'm like you guys

00:13:44.640 you guys deserve an apology you know inducted the interview was fantastic i watched the entire thing

00:13:49.600 and uh you you i think were yeah and so you see he's got the high tonality in his voice

00:13:55.840 i don't know do you do men raised by women is that what that's from

00:14:01.040 the only interviewer so far to really hold nick fuentes accountable and not

00:14:05.360 let him get away with a lot of his hateful views i love how you played the clips side by side and

00:14:09.440 made him defend it on the record so i want to give props to you there i thought it was really

00:14:12.720 well done and i watched the entire thing um and i was trying to decide similar to you does nick

00:14:19.120 fuentes actually believe these things or is he doing it for the money is a performative

00:14:23.200 and i i might disagree slight with you i i think it's both i think he does believe some of the

00:14:27.600 things these things i think some of it's performative i think when he tried to moderate

00:14:31.200 himself that's performative but the the more hateful views that as you mentioned when the

00:14:36.320 mass kind of slipped that's what he truly believes you could tell that he was trying

00:14:39.680 to moderate himself when as you were talking about with dr phil talking about the holocaust

00:14:43.360 he said oh i believe it was the holocaust you at least six million jews he said that

00:14:46.640 but then simultaneously claimed that hitler is cool and that he liked his uniforms and the music

00:14:50.480 and things like that so i have a good head on my shoulder not that good i'll tell you i've been

00:14:56.240 humbled recently this head is it's more nutty than i thought no i mean you know i think nick fuentes 0.98

00:15:05.680 broadly is a sad insecure man i think he's a liar i think he's a grifter 0.95

00:15:10.320 and i think you exposed that in the interview andrew wilson what did you think 0.88

00:15:16.320 um well i was just watching your previous segment and i thought that the framing there was a little

00:15:22.880 off so i've always appreciated coming on the show and letting me get my viewpoints out

00:15:27.280 but i do take some issue with uh with your framing you did bring up the guy's dad and you said his

00:15:33.440 name yeah and when you said it on the air that way this is a person who has had people attempt

00:15:39.520 to assassinate him they have come to his house shown up at his door and tried to kill him and

00:15:45.040 that's on video happening and so when you when you say that when you said the guy's name and

00:15:50.000 and then try to tie it into racism.

00:15:52.140 I know that you know this, Piers,

00:15:53.960 but the left broadly will do these harassment campaigns.

00:15:58.060 These harassment campaigns are designed specifically 0.98

00:16:00.180 to incite the violence of many of their mentally ill followers.

00:16:03.380 Let me just say, if I had my time again, 0.62

00:16:07.340 I wouldn't have said his father's name,

00:16:09.440 but I would have still told the anecdote.

00:16:11.760 Yeah, but here's the thing.

00:16:13.020 That's what women do. 1.00

00:16:14.440 Women look at whatever you say 1.00

00:16:17.060 and try to use it against you in bad faith.

00:16:19.660 it's a female tactic so when you have men that have the minds of women it's like they're basically 0.98

00:16:23.980 women um i know the simping is insane you guys gotta stop this is getting ridiculous 0.97

00:16:35.660 go slide into a redhead that can bang use dms not me not me but you know i think that people 1.00

00:16:45.340 are saying i look good because i've been starving myself for three days i felt so sick do you know

00:16:51.500 what i mean like i'm like yeah men want what men want what they want which is thin women so because 0.73

00:16:59.020 i thought it was really important to nick the anecdote's not the relevant part well but the

00:17:03.820 anecdote is relevant the anecdote is relevant when he immediately tried to play to attack me

00:17:08.620 for ambushing him with a story that he told himself on his show i mean look if i told a

00:17:13.340 a story like that's not what people are upset about no no i understand they weren't upset about

00:17:17.340 the anecdote they were upset that you specifically said the guy's name just had these assassination

00:17:22.780 attempts on him to be to be clear i if i had my time again wouldn't have said his father's name

00:17:28.700 notwithstanding the fact you can find it in two seconds on the internet right so it's not like

00:17:33.180 it's not difficult to find but i do think it's important that that anecdote to me

00:17:38.300 was yeah it's just like who hurt you right

00:17:44.220 i actually was really close to doing light brown hair i almost went brunette

00:17:50.620 how much more i mean you should have been here in the beginning

00:17:54.700 at least eight pounds then i'm gonna see if i can lose another 10 after that

00:18:00.780 but i'm happy if i get to the the if i lose this next eight pounds i'm a happy camper

00:18:05.900 that would be my goal that's my goal potentially very relevant to why nick fuentes is the way he

00:18:13.100 years about racism for example because he was telling a story that cannot be construed

00:18:18.540 andrew any other take better care of yourself pearl we need a based woman to show good morality 1.00

00:18:30.780 i'm a woman i can't have good morality we got to start there um i'd choose pearl over a hot ig

00:18:36.860 model you know you guys say that as a compliment but you do you understand the insinuation

00:18:44.300 like what if i said oh i'd take you over a hot guy you'd be like hey 0.98

00:18:52.540 you know what if i said you know what i'd take you over a gym muscle guy 1.00

00:18:58.460 i mean you'd kind of be like thanks i guess

00:19:02.540 carnivore i'm kind of close to carnivore right now we'll see how long i can keep it away

00:19:10.700 than his father was directing them away from restaurants because of his racist views about

00:19:17.240 the people that go in them or run them and he couldn't be seen any other way i get that i

00:19:22.200 listen i get i get the the point of bringing the anecdote up but that wasn't what looked to me like

00:19:28.200 what what was making these guys so angry was not the anecdote itself but the fact that you said the

00:19:33.420 guy's name referenced it as his dad and then you know this this guy's had assassination attempts

00:19:40.440 yeah but the story the story was him telling the story by the way by the way hang on a lot of the

00:19:44.340 the first assassination attempt happened because of the uh your body my choice thing that he put

00:19:49.780 that tweet out and people began doxing his address and his family's name and that's why they showed

00:19:55.260 up to kill him so the guy's grievance there i think is legitimate yeah but i think it's important

00:19:59.780 that his grievance wasn't just that i named his father which again is a matter of public record 0.75

00:20:05.480 you can find it anywhere although i wouldn't have said it if i had my time again because i don't

00:20:09.700 want to attack his family for the sake of attacking his family it was when he tried to frame it as an

00:20:15.280 unfair attack on his family when i think actually the story that he himself put in the public domain

00:20:20.620 was potentially very relevant to why he is the way he is.

00:20:24.300 As a journalist-

00:20:25.140 Well, how he was framing it was,

00:20:26.900 you're bringing this up and name doxing specifically

00:20:31.000 so that you can rally people into a harassment campaign. 0.96

00:20:35.640 That's how he saw it.

00:20:36.680 No, but that wasn't-

00:20:37.600 Okay, but just to be clear again,

00:20:39.160 that was not my intention.

00:20:40.380 My intention was to ask him in all sincerity-

00:20:42.920 That's like a female thing. 1.00

00:20:44.440 Women, men care about the results. 1.00

00:20:47.280 Women care about the intention. 1.00

00:20:50.620 if you grow up in an environment at home where there is clear racism that you have discussed

00:21:03.240 yourself on your own show very like unarguably you know you can't listen to the clip we i played

00:21:09.000 it earlier without realizing that's what he's saying then you know is that relevant to the

00:21:14.200 way he is let me bring in mark lamont hill here i mean mark you know i didn't do that lightly

00:21:18.920 uh i had decided before i did the interview that a i would do a lot of research into this i would

00:21:25.260 find all the clips that i felt were the most incendiary things he'd said on the record and i

00:21:30.420 would ask him and push him about them in a way that i don't think anyone else has really done

00:21:33.760 and it would be interesting to see the way he responded and you know if you're gonna yeah but

00:21:37.740 that's not a good faith interview it's like you know you're just looking for all the bad things

00:21:42.400 he said like who wants to have a conversation with someone that says this is every bad thing

00:21:47.520 you've ever said it's i mean that's what the left does with cancel culture to nick fuentes who

00:21:52.360 openly admits to being a racist he did it again with me in the show that that anecdote to me was

00:21:58.340 pertinent to why he may have shaped those views what do you think was it unfair

00:22:03.960 i i think the anecdote was entirely fair and necessary particularly since you know the first

00:22:12.280 part of the interview was very much about his biography was very much about what shaped him

00:22:17.000 he himself volunteered information, even in that interview about his parents, about how they came

00:22:21.780 together, about the loss of their fathers, et cetera. All that to me is fair game. I agree

00:22:27.820 that invoking his father's name in that moment was too far. I hear you saying if you could do it

00:22:33.840 again, you wouldn't, because I do have some ethical and moral reservations about doxing.

00:22:39.160 I don't think it's wrong, for example, if someone does something awful in public and it's relevant

00:22:44.180 to the public interest to track down their job and notify their job. But that's not the same

00:22:49.040 thing as tracking down every private citizen just because we think they're racist or sexist or

00:22:53.300 anti-Semitic or homophobic. I may think you're that thing, but you have a right to be that thing, 0.99

00:22:57.220 even though I think it's awful. And I don't think you should be, I don't think you should live

00:23:00.680 without safety because of that. Now, there's a bigger question, Piers, that you raised at the

00:23:06.860 top of the interview, and it's come up again in the media, and that is, should you even be talking

00:23:11.400 to this guy right and i gotta be honest with you pierce i've struggled with this um i and

00:23:18.040 we used to live in a society where it's like sticks and stones can break my bones but words

00:23:22.280 will never hurt me um and now we're debating if we should talk to the guy you know i've actually

00:23:29.320 wanted to tell this story and i know it's gonna get clipped um all right when i was in england

00:23:40.680 i dated a guy who was not in media

00:23:47.480 um but because of that like shit storm of when nick fuentes came on

00:23:57.000 i got dumped i got dumped over i got dumped over having him on

00:24:02.040 yeah so you got to be careful ladies this this channel is not 1.00

00:24:09.320 i did be careful what you sign up for this is if you want to find love i would not

00:24:14.840 suggest being a youtuber

00:24:16.920 yeah i know i dated a soy boy well i don't even think he was a soy boy

00:24:25.040 i know you guys are saying i actually he was a reasonable guy um i know

00:24:32.040 I know. I know. But. I was just like, oh, wow. Oh, wow.

00:24:46.400 Interview controversial people. I sit down with people who people say don't platform them.

00:24:50.520 You guys are saying you can't get dumped by a beta. Well, yeah, he had I didn't really blame

00:24:56.800 him, to be honest, because I was like, you know what? This kind of is like who wants to date a

00:25:01.860 girl that's like crying because her staff called her racist. Do you know what I mean? It's just 0.99

00:25:10.040 like, who wants all that? I mean, a lot of, I love this job, but it does not affect your personal

00:25:18.740 life. Well, I'll tell you that much. And I was warned, right? I was reasonable. He was reasonable

00:25:30.760 And I was warned about this when I got into this industry.

00:25:34.340 And there are pros to it.

00:25:35.960 I will tell you, there are pros to it.

00:25:39.700 So I'm not going to go through the...

00:25:42.760 There's pros to dating as a public figure.

00:25:46.560 But sometimes it's limiting to famous or other streamer people.

00:25:54.260 Because they're the only ones that get it.

00:25:57.760 And people not really in this world,

00:25:59.580 they're either fans which you don't really want to date a fan or like they don't like the drama like

00:26:06.300 and um that sometimes that's kind of on like your fault as the girl because you shouldn't bring it

00:26:12.060 home but

00:26:19.580 yeah

00:26:29.580 And I take seriously your point that they already have a platform and I'm not making them big. I'm not drawing attention to them. They already have the attention. They're just not being questioned or challenged on that platform. I concede that point. I agree with you fully. The problem with this guy, the problem with Nick Fuentes in particular, though, to me is he's such a chameleon and he moves in such a way that I'm not sure holding him accountable matters to his base. And he does just enough to look moderate and normal and reasonable that I think he'll do.

00:26:58.300 i think nick looks reasonable all the time i don't understand like i feel like there's a language

00:27:04.220 that happy-go-lucky people speak that non-happy-go-lucky people don't speak and i feel

00:27:09.900 like me and nick we just we speak the same language um so i never really understood why

00:27:17.420 everyone gets there in their panties in a bunch um over him i never got it he'll do more damage by

00:27:22.700 sneaking some people from from the middle and dragging them to his side because they think 0.98

00:27:27.020 think he's reasonable and only later find out that he's a sexist, misogynist, Hitler-loving 0.98

00:27:31.220 Nazi, right? Or whatever he is, right? That's where the danger comes for me. I'm not saying 0.99

00:27:36.060 we shouldn't interview controversial people. I'm just saying this particular guy, I feel like

00:27:39.280 we're playing into his interests and his angle. Yeah. Well, Glenn Greenwald, welcome back to

00:27:43.380 Uncensored. You've had four inches on your show. What's your view about that issue, about

00:27:48.480 platforming him at all? Oh, I don't even, I didn't even consider it to be a difficult question at

00:27:54.880 all. I mean, if you're going to have people on who are responsible for the invasion and

00:27:59.120 destruction of Iraq based on lies or the incineration of Vietnam or the destruction of

00:28:03.520 Gaza and the deaths of tens of thousands of people and welcome them and treat them like 1.00

00:28:07.800 respectable people, tell me what it is that Nick Fuentes has done remotely as bad as that

00:28:12.740 that justifies allowing them to come on and speak, but not him. And whether you like it

00:28:16.960 or not, he does speak for a huge number of people in his generation and even other generations

00:28:21.780 as well, who feel the same kind of anger and frustration with the status quo, with the

00:28:27.320 establishment, with the kind of dogma that we've been told we have to accept. And there's a lot

00:28:32.380 of people who are angry about it and who rebel against it. And we saw this with Donald Trump

00:28:36.580 on maybe a little bit of a smaller scale, but very much the same pattern. When Donald Trump

00:28:40.500 appeared, everybody was like, oh, he's racist and fascist and he's the misogynist and he's this and 1.00

00:28:44.940 that. And no one wanted to grapple with the reason why his message was resonating so much. And to me, 0.92

00:28:49.460 it very is very similar to nick fontes say what you want about him he's extremely smart an

00:28:55.140 incredibly talented communicator and very well read like he's very informed he's not just some

00:29:00.580 sensationalist babbling on the on the internet and i think the reason he has attracted a lot

00:29:05.300 of attention is because he's speaking to the anger and frustration a lot of which is valid

00:29:09.940 of a lot of people and to stick your head in the sand and say oh we're going to pretend that

00:29:14.980 this isn't happening because his views are too off but the people who start wars

00:29:20.180 are responsible for the 2008 financial crisis these yeah i always again i never understood

00:29:25.060 how you can get so triggered over someone who just has an opinion do you know what i mean like

00:29:30.340 it's not like he's the guy dropping bombs or doing any of this stuff

00:29:34.980 he's just a guy with an opinion um you know uh like i think abortion is murder like genuinely

00:29:41.460 in my soul. But I don't hate pro-choice people. I just think they have a different viewpoint and

00:29:46.040 opinion. Our respectable people who we treat with respect, like Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton or

00:29:50.720 whoever, that to me is the kind of thing that I think is really distorted. Yeah. You know, I,

00:29:56.900 Warren Smith, I'll bring up. Can I respond to that? Well, no, I'll be bringing Warren Smith

00:29:59.920 first and then I'll come back to you, Mark. You know, Warren, that really is my feeling about it

00:30:04.600 is that you can let these guys like Fuentes and Andrew Tate run riot,

00:30:10.520 and they do already, and they have massive followings,

00:30:13.280 millions and millions of young men.

00:30:14.720 I know, when I interview Tate, the number of young men

00:30:17.640 who just come up to me in the street to ask about it is off the charts,

00:30:20.940 more than almost any other guest I ever have.

00:30:22.660 So we can either pretend this phenomenon isn't happening,

00:30:26.060 and Fuentes is a phenomenon, whether people like it or not.

00:30:29.480 And I don't hate everything about him.

00:30:31.760 there were elements of that interview where it was a genuinely quite interesting conversation

00:30:36.240 but there were elements which either because he wanted to be performative and shocking and

00:30:40.940 attention-seeking whatever it may be or because he really believes it where I felt we saw a pretty

00:30:46.680 dark underbelly of some of his beliefs you know I mean just when somebody just says I am a racist

00:30:52.120 and then explains yeah well this is yeah it's a generational divide between Pierce and Gen Z

00:30:57.600 Gen Z, you can't shame them because they've watched boomer and millennial men get shamed.

00:31:03.980 And they're kind of done with it, except these soy boys that come on. 1.00

00:31:07.600 Let me play the clip first.

00:31:08.960 They come to you.

00:31:11.400 You're fine with saying you're a racist.

00:31:13.940 Totally. 0.65

00:31:14.760 I think everybody's racist.

00:31:16.540 I think everybody, if we're being honest, is racist.

00:31:19.420 I think everybody, the only people that ever.

00:31:22.140 Yeah.

00:31:22.720 Look, where it's like, where does Pierce live?

00:31:27.600 he lives in a white area like come on let's just aren't racist or or pretend not to be our white 0.71

00:31:33.120 people to their detriment everybody else is racist you expect you earlier in the interview you you

00:31:37.920 went really got aggrieved at the idea that your father was a racist you you wanted to make him

00:31:44.880 he's not because my father doesn't share my same views on that so he's the exception to the

00:31:49.600 everyone's a racist yeah that's that's the annoying thing is they try to bring your family into it

00:31:54.720 like they always do that with my mom right because my mom's running for office and i don't 0.98

00:31:59.040 really think that that's not something i necessarily agree with right women being 1.00

00:32:03.360 in positions of political power um but you know if that's what she wants to do that's you know 1.00

00:32:09.280 we have a difference of opinion and she's welcome to do it it's a free country um but what they do 0.93

00:32:14.800 is they kind of like they'll always say pearl your mom your mom you're on i'm like well

00:32:19.520 well, you know, that's her. 0.79

00:32:23.140 You know, this is me.

00:32:24.940 We got, we're different.

00:32:26.420 Well, everybody's a little bit racist.

00:32:29.260 I mean, I thought it was an interesting contradiction there,

00:32:31.280 which he was probably calculating in real time,

00:32:33.140 that having got so exercised about the idea that his father was racist,

00:32:36.700 he then said everyone's racist and there's nothing wrong with it, effectively.

00:32:40.080 But putting that to one side, Warren, I mean, you know,

00:32:42.700 this issue of whether you platform somebody like Fuentes

00:32:46.180 who has these inflammatory views,

00:32:48.380 I think we can all agree they're inflammatory, a lot of his views.

00:32:52.860 You know, is this, am I, by doing it, am I continuing to fuel this phenomenon in a way that is a negative for society?

00:33:01.720 Or in a free democratic society, you know, should I be entitled to interview who the hell I like?

00:33:07.080 As long as I do my job as a journalist of holding him to account over these things, let other people work it out for themselves.

00:33:12.840 no i think it's totally understandable and i agree that you would have him on i was in the

00:33:19.320 same position where i was genuinely shocked when i made a knee-jerk response video to something he

00:33:25.960 had said i was overwhelmed by the response i was like i had no idea there were this many people

00:33:31.960 out there that agreed with him and i had people that i knew actually telling me no you're you're

00:33:36.680 oversimplifying this and i actually went back and looked at the same clip and realized i had

00:33:41.480 oversimplified it there was actually i was looking at it yeah because a lot of times what they'll do

00:33:46.440 is they'll take the most out of context clip of what you've said like they did that to me

00:33:50.760 at a clip that said slavery was embellished right and black people just wanted to crucify me what 0.56

00:33:57.160 did you mean by that and it's like all right you guys weaponize that to get whatever the hell you

00:34:02.680 want okay so and but they'll just keep saying oh pearl thinks slavery wasn't that bad like

00:34:14.440 it's like they would say this and i'm like go yourself come on all right going into

00:34:20.920 it without much prior research and that actually led to me sitting down with him

00:34:25.720 for an hour and a half i think the it's important though if you want to achieve

00:34:30.360 the ideal outcome it is important to actually genuinely be trying to gain a better understanding

00:34:37.800 of his reasoning and in his arguments and not just trying to win or embarrass because at the long run

00:34:44.920 i think that will backfire and that yeah no he's speaking for yeah because there's that's something

00:34:50.920 i'm good i never go into anything in bad faith i'm never trying to make someone look bad i'm

00:34:56.280 trying to hear them out but if they start like saying stuff i disagree with then we'll go back

00:34:59.960 and forth will cause him to become bigger yeah that's i mean that's an interesting point you

00:35:06.600 know people were asking me you know he won or people said you won or i said i didn't seek out

00:35:13.000 to win i don't seek out ever to win an interview that's not the oh shut up pierce yes you do you 0.53

00:35:19.080 ambushed the out of me

00:35:20.840 point of an interview actually what i wanted to do over two hours was a personally get to know

00:35:30.720 him better because i know nothing about him other than what i've read i've never met him i've never

00:35:35.140 interviewed him i don't really believe that look at look at andrew wilson's not buying it either

00:35:42.180 look at his face um and b to go over all these things which he's notorious for and ask wait so

00:35:47.260 you know not let me get this straight you know nothing about him you know nothing about him and

00:35:52.560 yet you ambushed me for having him on yet you know nothing about him

00:35:59.300 yeah work out the correct context what he really believes what may have motivated this

00:36:09.840 and so on and I think a lot of that was achieved in the interview um but it wasn't you know I

00:36:15.160 I think it very quickly afterwards, you know, when I asked him during the interview, you know, how he felt towards the end, how he felt at the gun, he thought I'd been fair.

00:36:24.680 He didn't think I'd ambushed him and so on. He made that clear in the interview.

00:36:28.300 And yet afterwards, almost immediately afterwards, he comes out full bore on the attack, which is what he does.

00:36:34.520 But it was interesting.

00:36:35.960 He came on the attack.

00:36:38.920 The audacity of Pierce to say that.

00:36:41.020 to me that was the reaction from his sort of mob of groupers was instantaneous and and and

00:36:47.580 extraordinarily widespread they just come as this mob and it's very and it's you know if you're not

00:36:53.100 me who's got a very thick skin it's a it's a pretty hard thing to to uh to get back at you

00:36:59.180 look i don't care i've had i've had a lot worse um and they'll move on and that's what happens

00:37:04.140 um but if you're if you're not actually it can be very intimidating it's very threatening

00:37:09.820 uh very racist very anti-semitic uh very very nasty actually uh like i said it didn't it didn't

00:37:16.700 you know it wouldn't scrape the surface with me because i got a skin of a thousand rhinos

00:37:21.180 but to other people i could see it really being a pretty terrifying experience

00:37:26.780 hey peter can i ask a question about that yeah that's right they're doing that they're doing

00:37:31.420 that too sorry you're all doing go first yeah

00:37:35.020 let me start with glenn thanks mark you i'm sorry to interrupt um but the the issue is

00:37:45.700 why does he have such a loyal following why does he have a large and loyal following now you can

00:37:51.100 ask that question about donald trump and a lot of people were satisfied by saying oh every

00:37:55.240 america's just filled with racists and and misogynists and xenophobes and he's playing

00:37:59.240 into that and maybe that is part of it you know politicians do demagogue and play to our worst

00:38:03.200 instincts always, but there was a lot more to it than that. And I think people understand 10 years

00:38:07.980 later that there is and was a lot more to that. So you can say, oh yeah, Nick Fontes has this army

00:38:13.080 of angry young men who are incredibly devoted to him, who believe that he's speaking truth 0.95

00:38:19.560 uniquely, because there are also a bunch of Nazis and racists and Jew haters. Okay, that's an easy, 0.74

00:38:24.820 I think there's a lot more to it. And I think people ought to grapple with the reason why he's

00:38:28.840 speaking for so many people. No, I think that's a very valid point. I've always said about Andrew

00:38:32.440 tate for example that you know a lot of the things he says i can understand if you're a young

00:38:36.440 slightly disenfranchised young man you feel society has got it in for you and all you ever 0.82

00:38:41.420 hear is man bashing i can understand why you gravitate to a guy like tate who stands there

00:38:46.640 tall and proud as a very masculine kind of guy beating his chest talking about you know taking

00:38:52.480 care of your body and getting fit and being a protector and all these i get all that um but

00:38:57.720 then he slides into brazen misogyny which I hate uh Mark Lamont Hill yeah any guy that says

00:39:03.300 misogyny is getting hen packed at home he doesn't care about misogyny men don't care about misogyny 0.70

00:39:09.360 in the locker room but they care about misogyny when their wife's in the room hen packing nagging 0.78

00:39:16.120 bring you in here I mean I just want to before you say what you want to say what he said after

00:39:21.880 the interview uh Nick Fletcher was Piers Morgan tried his best but his hardball interrogation

00:39:26.440 made me look even better than Tucker's wildly criticised softball interview.

00:39:31.320 The regime can acquiesce like Tucker, or it can try to resist like his,

00:39:36.280 but the result is inevitably the same total Gruyper victory.

00:39:40.140 Now, look, on one level, I admire his social media work, right?

00:39:44.540 He goes on the attack, he gives it full bells, he claims total victory.

00:39:47.580 It's very Trumpian, and it can work, it can be very effective, OK?

00:39:52.060 And he's perfectly entitled to claim total victory and whatever,

00:39:54.600 and I'm sure all his supporters agree.

00:39:57.640 But it's interesting that he views me and Tucker Carlson

00:40:00.500 and other people who now do our own shows or whatever

00:40:02.540 as the regime, almost like anybody who's older than him

00:40:07.000 is part of some ancien regime that just doesn't get it.

00:40:11.460 You know, all his supporters called me boomer, right?

00:40:13.900 And I was like, I've been called that probably ever.

00:40:16.900 OK, I'm a boomer.

00:40:18.440 I don't know what that means,

00:40:19.420 but it just means I'm an old dude who doesn't get it, right?

00:40:22.020 and it may be as Glenn says there is a more interesting conversation to be had about why

00:40:27.660 these guys get so popular and it may be that when I do my old my slightly old school journalistic

00:40:33.700 trick as somebody put it of just being quite tough and rigorous with questioning that it's 0.82

00:40:38.720 viewed by young people I mean in a way um Pierce's job is to nag and be a dick um and that's kind of 0.96

00:40:45.700 a woman's job right women's job is to nag and tone police etc but what happened is 0.98

00:40:51.460 society is like from it's built by men um for women right so all of society's catering to the 1.00

00:41:02.220 female dollar um so people are getting paid to nag there's entire industries um dedicated to 1.00

00:41:08.420 nagging men like what do you think therapy is it's like nagging men's behavior people who

00:41:13.800 gravitate to people like these guys as just an old boomer going through the motions

00:41:18.060 perhaps i mean and also i wouldn't assume that because he said that that he believes it that he

00:41:26.580 actually believes you're part of the regime or that he believes that one is softball or hardball

00:41:32.200 he gives a lot of the characteristics mannerisms approaches styles uh of a cult leader and cult

00:41:39.120 leaders navigate their their followers in very particular ways including re-narrating or

00:41:44.660 counter narrating events that happen in ways that are favorable to them that's why when i said i

00:41:50.820 struggle with whether or not you should have him on the show i didn't say you shouldn't and i didn't

00:41:54.900 say you should i genuinely it's a struggle for me again as a journalist i have interviewed despots

00:41:59.300 uh killers you know people i mean genocide is it crazy that black people are cool 1.00

00:42:06.500 with literally interviewing murderers but a guy with a talk show that's a little racist is too far 0.98

00:42:14.660 It's like they're more offended by racism than murder. 1.00

00:42:21.960 Isn't that fucked up? 1.00

00:42:23.580 Like someone could have murdered 10 black people and black people will still 1.00

00:42:27.440 hate the racist more. 1.00

00:42:28.640 That's hurt.

00:42:29.060 Nobody.

00:42:30.620 And there are days where it feels very clear and obvious why I should do it.

00:42:35.540 They need to be held accountable.

00:42:36.640 They need to be forced to answer tough questions.

00:42:38.560 And I don't put them in it.

00:42:40.120 Contrary to what was said,

00:42:41.080 I don't hold them in a different box than I do Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden.

00:42:44.660 or someone who I voted for, you know, potentially, right? They all need to be held to scrutiny.

00:42:49.460 Everybody in power needs to be held accountable. I'm with that. My concern in this particular case,

00:42:54.960 though, is that I'm not sure what the net gain is. I don't know if you really got to know a better

00:43:01.100 him, not because you didn't do a great job. You did do a great job, but because I'm not sure who

00:43:05.500 the person is behind that persona. And the question I would ask you, Piers, is if you knew

00:43:10.260 ahead of time, that doing this interview would double the amount of people who believed in the

00:43:15.320 worst things that he believes, would you still do the interview? Well, I don't think that is going

00:43:22.400 to be a consequence of it, honestly. But what I do think is that... Let me make my point. I don't

00:43:30.660 like generalizing. When Hillary Clinton called Donald Trump supporters, the MAGA supporters,

00:43:35.320 a basket of decorables... Do you know what? That haircut. Everyone's saying they like my haircut.

00:43:40.060 do you know why you see less than my face that's what happens when you're chopped

00:43:45.660 you cover up half your face and they're like wow you look better

00:43:51.740 ah and i've starved myself for a few days unintentionally i just felt sick

00:43:56.620 probably lost on that lecture when you generalize about millions and millions of people

00:44:01.100 it's always a very precarious and stupid folly to do that um what i can say with agree but what i

00:44:07.260 I can say with some certainty is that pretty well 100% of his grippers who've directly messaged me 0.98

00:44:13.540 or members of my family have been highly abusive, overtly racist, very misogynist, and many of them

00:44:20.740 anti-Semitic. I can say that with certainty. Now, what I don't know is how many of those are human

00:44:25.880 beings and how many are from a bot farm, because according to reports in the last two days, a lot

00:44:31.060 of his stuff comes from bot farms. I don't know if that's true, but that's been reported in various

00:44:34.820 mainstream papers i don't doubt it and i don't know how representative these ones on x or

00:44:41.780 instagram are of the total body of his support i just don't know so you know i don't i don't

00:44:46.860 want to generalize and say neither do i i don't want to say all nick fuente supporters are

00:44:50.900 disgusting because there may be until pearl has the life experience of getting married and having 1.00

00:44:56.180 kids as she preaches then not a single soul should take her words seriously she's a grifter 1.00

00:45:01.760 bullshit content now i do want to explore this because this is a criticism i get a lot 0.97

00:45:08.720 i actually think married people have the worst insights 1.00

00:45:13.680 i actually think there's nobody worse that you could listen to than a married person with kids

00:45:19.360 if they married their high school sweetheart they married their college sweetheart i don't

00:45:23.120 want to hear about dating from you you have no idea what's going on in these streets you got

00:45:28.320 lucky you dated one two three people you got lucky now if i don't like a how to raise kids

00:45:34.720 channel i think i would agree with you but in terms of what's happening with the culture and

00:45:39.360 in these streets oh yeah i have a good i have way better insight yeah i have way way better better

00:45:52.160 insight. And I could say that wholeheartedly. I could say that definitively. I could literally

00:46:02.000 say that definitively. Any married boomer, I know more. I know more about what's going

00:46:08.420 on in the dating market. Almost definitively. Like it's not even, it's not even close. And

00:46:18.360 don't know if i'm as pro marriage as people think because my view on marriage is it just kind of

00:46:24.680 i think i was at one point so i could see why people i just think it automatically makes men

00:46:30.440 simps because they have to be simps and like there's this whole society that shames us

00:46:36.840 into making men simp and like you're doing it wrong if you don't because automatically if you

00:46:42.920 get married she has the leverage and like there's all this guilting that you have to give the woman 0.99

00:46:47.800 leverage it's like why for what thank you i thank you zz that's so nice you um so the prescript

00:46:55.560 there is a prescription against your argument i've looked into it in rural areas and county

00:47:00.520 towns have way more families and less come divorced compared to the city thought that's 0.94

00:47:05.320 a terrible idea and i could tell you because when i was single i dated in the city and in the country

00:47:12.280 that's an abs unless if you marry your high school sweetheart i agree with you

00:47:18.740 but do you know what i would tell a chick uh you know what you if you did not graduate college or 1.00

00:47:25.340 high school with a guy go to a city go to a city go to a the biggest city you can find

00:47:34.260 because there's a lot of men there to choose from and now you might say okay well they're

00:47:40.460 city boys. They don't ever settle down. Not really true. Not really true. There's lots of

00:47:45.960 men that want to settle down in cities. You're telling me like the city, like New York women 1.00

00:47:50.980 always say that like, you know, dating in New York is terrible. But I'm like, you're in one

00:47:56.960 of the biggest places in the United States. You can't find one dude that wants to like settle

00:48:03.600 down um terrible yeah now you're gonna say terrible advice but do you know what it's kind

00:48:11.040 of like men in plastic surgery I hate hearing what men have to say about like they say they

00:48:15.840 like natural but you guys are all saying you love my new hair that's not natural do you know what I

00:48:20.880 mean it's like I don't really like it's kind of like how you guys kind of roll your eyes if women

00:48:28.260 give you dating advice that's kind of how i feel about men talking about like way the way women 0.99

00:48:34.820 date now what happens is a lot of men feel that they're higher value in the country because they

00:48:40.740 have more money and they're maybe in the position to start a family but women we like riz and you 1.00

00:48:46.580 guys keep trying to tell us to not like that but that's what we like we can't help it that's we're

00:48:51.380 slaves to our biology um and the guys in the country just um they don't tend to be the type

00:49:02.180 of guys women want to date yeah i dated all i wanted and then settled down an appropriate age

00:49:15.220 look at there's some married people that dated before they got married and i think you know

00:49:19.780 there may be more valid uh but you guys you guys know who i'm talking about the married boomers

00:49:26.900 that just do not know what it's like pearl looking like carrie carrie who 0.99

00:49:31.620 they just don't know they don't they don't know hold up you're not a natural red see 1.00

00:49:42.580 it's like

00:49:43.140 move away from the devil's playground and not into it well you wouldn't know because

00:49:50.160 you've never been a woman dating you would not know

00:49:53.840 you wouldn't know that i mean look

00:50:00.380 and that's that's just how i feel about it in the city look in the country if you want to go on a

00:50:10.940 date, you are probably going to have to drive 45 minutes. On average, dating coaches say it takes

00:50:15.980 about 15 dates for a woman to find a man that's attractive. Now on this channel, I don't encourage

00:50:22.400 women to sleep with men they're not attracted to, because I think it tortures both parties. 1.00

00:50:27.420 I think, I mean, that torture. So if that's what women want to do, 1.00

00:50:36.160 now in the person you sleep with, you have to see if they commit also, right?

00:50:40.940 Um, so I mean, in the city, there's just going to be more people.

00:50:45.340 It's going to be like a 30, it's going to be like, you can get there in 10 minutes normally.

00:50:53.580 It's just going to be a lot easier.

00:50:57.460 It's going to be a lot easier.

00:50:59.820 And I, I think people that give the outdated advice, I mean, the guys in the city are making

00:51:05.280 more money. They're going to have more experience with women, so they're not going to be simps. 0.98

00:51:13.920 You are going to probably take more L's, but I mean, that's life. Growing up, you thought you

00:51:20.240 had to give women attention for them to like you back. As I got older, I saw more success when I

00:51:24.600 stop caring yeah i i mean i am if you marry your high school or college sweetheart stay there but

00:51:37.480 i look like a hoe well i am a hoe i am all women are hoes 1.00

00:51:44.760 30 foe for the right guy you know what i mean

00:51:52.740 you know i mean the right yeah the right guy

00:51:58.020 hoeing yeah so 0.99

00:52:02.160 you're saying 155 six foot i mean all these basic bitches you're not hoeing for your man 1.00

00:52:14.760 you don't you don't you don't hoe at all not even a little hoe 1.00

00:52:24.780 you sound boring 0.99

00:52:28.500 or ugly you know maybe your man's ugly you don't want to hoe for him so 1.00

00:52:38.520 a lot of people it's a bit like tommy robinson and to be clear i'm not saying that 0.55

00:52:44.580 to be finished my point it's a bit like tommy robinson tommy robinson in the uk right is a

00:52:50.060 bit like fuentes over here and there's no doubt as the people marching with him have grown bigger

00:52:56.620 and bigger and that's crazy how did i not get any pushback from having tommy robinson on i really

00:53:01.900 liked him too he was he was cool as hell i really liked he was he was a nice guy yeah the idea that

00:53:10.420 they're all fascists racist whatever whatever is nonsense a lot of people are marching for

00:53:16.180 well-intentioned reasons connected with the immigration crisis in the uk right he has bad 0.96

00:53:21.160 people as well i think he's a malevolent character but again i wouldn't generalize anymore about all

00:53:26.680 these people that march can i ask you a question pierce yes yeah sure i would like to generalize

00:53:32.720 okay there was a part of the interview where you were very combative and you said you haven't even

00:53:40.400 been laid and you're a virgin um this this guy's a roman catholic right isn't he supposed to be a 0.96

00:53:47.680 virgin until he's married isn't like isn't it isn't that yeah and that's a death sentence for 1.00

00:53:53.140 men men go fuck some hoes you need to say where the hoes at you know where are the hoes at 1.00

00:54:03.280 because um you gotta you gotta get some practice to find your wife 1.00

00:54:11.060 i would not be i would say being a virgin until you're married married i mean that's a death

00:54:17.800 sentence for men i mean there's no way you're not gonna be a sim 0.94

00:54:20.840 having called your hair cute i do think you resemble a cave troll well i don't blame you for

00:54:28.940 that. I don't know what that is, but you know, I'll take it. Do you know what? I'm a virgin, too.

00:54:48.360 I'm also a virgin. Yeah. Yeah.

00:54:51.600 mm-hmm yeah let's go with that to be fair to him to be fair to him that is i was brought up

00:55:02.720 a catholic i'm not a particularly devout catholic i disagree with a lot of the church but you do

00:55:07.780 agree that catholics are supposed to remain changed until marriage the strict the strict 0.92

00:55:12.460 interpretation from the catholic church about that is you should how come he didn't get shouldn't he

00:55:17.540 So you like to be talking about women don't care about money. 1.00

00:55:21.480 Do you know what it is?

00:55:22.680 It's because my dad growing up, if he ever didn't like someone I was dating, he would

00:55:28.300 always act like, and I know this isn't just me.

00:55:30.560 I'm not special, right?

00:55:31.420 He would just say like, why don't you go for more like money, like more successful guys.

00:55:37.700 And women, we don't really care about money until we like have to, you know, that's like 1.00

00:55:44.580 what every female love story is about. 1.00

00:55:47.540 it's about women being sad that they have to care about money 0.96

00:55:54.100 yeah

00:55:57.380 my body count

00:56:01.700 three thousand million yes how did you know

00:56:08.580 um

00:56:08.980 Um, uh, you know what? He wasn't a fan. I'll just say that. I'll just say that.

00:56:21.500 I'll just say, I'll just say, I'll just, I'm not, I don't want to, I'm not trying to trash talk,

00:56:25.840 but you know, I'll just say not the biggest fan. Um, yeah, they don't care about money

00:56:31.460 unless they're struggling with bills. Yeah. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Women 1.00

00:56:38.740 will sell the f out for anything well that's true women sorry women can be bought but when it comes 1.00

00:56:44.740 to who we like to sleep with i mean we just don't really care what male celebrities um

00:56:57.780 you're not supposed to answer this question right it's like bet they say that women aren't supposed 1.00

00:57:02.260 I think I thought Chad's were rich.

00:57:06.800 No.

00:57:12.860 Do you know what?

00:57:13.640 I could be bought for certain things.

00:57:16.320 It just depends.

00:57:17.360 What are we talking?

00:57:19.660 Like I did a post for sports betting the other day and everyone was telling me I was haram

00:57:25.180 because I posted an ad for sports betting and I'm like, can I do it again?

00:57:29.560 And if you're an adult and you want a sports bet, that's not my problem.

00:57:35.380 I would do it again.

00:57:36.520 I would, I would, I would, I almost wanted to post the ad like three times.

00:57:41.180 And I don't, I don't really like sports bet.

00:57:43.520 I'm going to be honest, but I'm like, I mean, Muslims, I'll, I'll, you want, I mean, I don't 1.00

00:57:51.180 see anything wrong with gambling.

00:57:52.420 and this drives I want to say this drives competent men insane they cannot like stand

00:58:03.700 um no I just said I could be if you have a gambling ad I will read it for money so let's not

00:58:12.700 I'm 53 and my body count is seven by choice and I'm a guy um I don't really think it was

00:58:21.020 by choice. And I'm going to be honest. Now, a lot of men say that I don't sleep around

00:58:25.400 by choice. And I'm like, not really. You just don't like your choices. Remember, there's

00:58:30.840 young women that turn 18 every year that fit all of the boxes that you guys want. Now,

00:58:36.620 they do get ruined over time. But I mean, there's women turning 18 every day. I know

00:58:42.820 guys that are players and they just keep banging women the same age and they don't really have

00:58:47.020 the same problems a lot of you guys have i'm not trying to say this to be mean but um it's like

00:58:52.260 it's you know you're it's because you didn't like the choices presented

00:58:57.440 it's like women say they're single by choice 1.00

00:59:01.220 um pearl you're telling women to move to a place that is okay so this is probably 1.00

00:59:06.840 i don't want to roast you too hard but i want to i want to understand like the the where they're

00:59:13.220 coming from. All right. You want to say, move to a place that is doomed for women. The women are 1.00

00:59:17.980 304s and the men are either isolating simps or F-boys. Countries have 304s, less simps, higher 0.64

00:59:23.200 marriage and higher birth rates. Well, it's outdated advice. That worked 50 years ago. Not now.

00:59:29.660 All the career opportunities are in the city. All the men earning the most money are going to the

00:59:33.460 city. The most charming, the good looking men, they're all going to the city. I mean,

00:59:38.340 that's just me being real here um and it's not that all women are doomed in the city there's

00:59:46.320 women that marry every year in the city it's just there's like winners and losers 1.00

00:59:51.080 there's women that win and women that lose I mean anyone that's lived in a city knows there's like 0.85

01:00:01.520 I mean there's there's women that get married and find a guy every year 1.00

01:00:06.700 um it is tough um but it's tough because like you're in such a small proximity to so many

01:00:15.420 choices that's kind of why people crash out but i mean you don't have to make the same choices you

01:00:20.420 know

01:00:20.440 the credit for that like the idea that he's kind of staying he's staying within the confines of

01:00:31.100 his religious beliefs i i have no problem but he also can't get any action but he also self-identifies

01:00:38.100 as an incel you know here's well so like you know it's crazy that's what is it incels like

01:00:44.720 a container word used to shame men for not being sexually successful um so it's like how long does

01:00:57.000 a guy have to be sexless to be considered an incel from what I've seen men are just kind of

01:01:02.780 preoccupied because they don't really like the choices on the table not by choice that's fair

01:01:06.540 I've checked out this guy's jacked too what the why are you checking out sir um even from women 0.99

01:01:13.800 I think I'm better than I suppose you're right with the 18 year old comment yeah you got probably

01:01:19.120 just got to learn some riz there's guys that teach that I might actually plug one guy because I know

01:01:24.340 he's really good at his stuff and you guys should check out his courses and like i would actually

01:01:28.900 the candace pierce interview just dropped i'm gonna do that tomorrow i still gotta cover that

01:01:34.600 coach i wanted to do it the last few days but i was just dying i love it i've got so many supers

01:01:42.000 to that what did i do to deserve this i never get this many supers love your content pearl keep it

01:01:47.580 up from scotland thank you i mean and i'm just i feel like this is i said this is a terrible show

01:01:56.460 and how many people are watching right now hold on 982 people like the video i'm doing

01:02:06.540 all right um okay what do i do pro i'm a black guy but i don't fit into the lexicon of black

01:02:11.820 guys no rims rims chains felons baby mamas or bs what did i do wrong i must be acting wrong 0.99

01:02:17.260 yeah you dated if you're dating black women you got to go to a different race the asians will take 1.00

01:02:21.180 you the asians will take you here's what mark just said you see what i mean like he can't get any 0.99

01:02:26.140 action the guy is rich as shit and he's a good-looking guy he could get the action if he 0.98

01:02:31.340 wanted it by and by the way hang on hang on hang on hang on just let me finish your point 0.96

01:02:38.620 i'm just teasing what i'm saying to you though is this is that yeah of course he could the the

01:02:43.420 thing is though is that if if he's if you guys are saying like he's a he's a huckster he's a fraud

01:02:48.700 isn't he in fact following rigorously his faith by doing well so my response to that i think it's

01:02:55.500 what he said hang on hang on hang on harry i think it's what he said hang on hang on i want to respond

01:03:00.220 to andrew no it's not i think it's a perfectly valid question particularly as i have always said

01:03:05.420 i'm a catholic i was raised a catholic i had spiritual guidance from catholic nuns when i was

01:03:09.500 12 years old you know i go to church occasionally i'm not devout i'm not there all the time

01:03:13.980 i don't agree with some of the okay so he's a pick and choose catholic it's like then why even

01:03:18.940 say you're okay that's why i don't i don't really like do you know what i always say that i have it

01:03:26.140 in me to be a very devout religious person but i got frustrated by how bad the advice that churches

01:03:35.260 gave was. That's what I was frustrated by. And how much I saw growing up the Bible be weaponized

01:03:44.700 as a tool to control like my dad, you know. And I just never appreciated that that like happened.

01:03:52.680 You know, because my mom kind of did that. And I just, you know, seeing that just kind of made

01:04:00.460 me want to like run from the church and just seeing how manipulative it was.

01:04:05.260 Catholic Church's views and policies, and I wish they would evolve faster.

01:04:17.920 However, you know, as speaking Catholic to Catholic with him,

01:04:22.780 yes, it's a perfectly valid thing that he could say,

01:04:25.320 I am saving myself for marriage.

01:04:28.100 But if that's all he said, fine.

01:04:29.860 But I would argue that, you know, if you look at him as a Christian, for example,

01:04:33.400 how many of his other views are compatible with being a christian right you know his view of the

01:04:39.920 priesthood racism was correct his his jew baiting his overt racism the despicable yeah but it's like 0.55

01:04:46.100 pierce who are you to say that like who are you to judge him you're not the judge in the jury 0.99

01:04:50.040 you know there's people that say a lot of fucked up things about you pierce 0.93

01:04:54.820 so what like why don't we stick to the topic that's what women do 1.00

01:04:58.820 women want to be the judge in the jury and see how bad of a person someone is men want to talk 0.89

01:05:04.740 about the facts the data and the statistics the way he talks about women generally and so on none

01:05:10.000 of those things are what you would categorize as being a good christian so i think you can have

01:05:14.260 dogmatic distinctions with him and that's fine within the confines of the faith but with the

01:05:18.820 points he brought up when he said women aren't allowed to be clergy that's true they're not 1.00

01:05:22.600 allowed to be clergy by by the catholic faith and when he said he's saving himself for marriage

01:05:27.020 he also said he should hang on andrew when he said that women shouldn't be allowed to vote

01:05:33.900 and should stay at home i should also have jobs would you know i don't actually mind women having 1.00

01:05:39.420 jobs um i think most i think most women actually shouldn't stay at home um because again you're 1.00

01:05:48.140 kind of putting yourself in a bad position as a man and i also just wonder what she's doing all day

01:05:54.540 like you got to raise the kid to agree with catholic the catholic church does not have

01:06:00.380 dogmatic teaching on democracy they're not like oh democracy is the standard i'm asking you i'm

01:06:05.760 asking you i'm asking you whether you think when he says women shouldn't be allowed to vote and

01:06:10.940 should stay at home yeah um we got to take away the vote i think women can get a job um like i 1.00

01:06:18.480 think if your kids are in public school go be a teacher that's what i say um and not work

01:06:24.160 i think most people shouldn't be allowed to vote i think i would limit suffrage for most people 0.65

01:06:29.240 like our founders did i think would you make this specific to women suffrage would you make

01:06:33.240 it specific to women not specific not specific hang on let me let me finish this matter why

01:06:38.140 would that matter ultimately i do think if you say i do think after they've waged a hundred year

01:06:44.700 war women for women's equal rights to then remove one of the wrenching build building blocks of that 1.00

01:06:50.980 which is what the suffragettes fought for the right to vote i think if you remove i just gotta

01:06:55.380 be honest all the women i knew that wanted to be stay-at-home moms were pretty lazy 1.00

01:07:01.300 so i mean i'm not like because when you think of a stay-at-home mom i think as someone who's

01:07:06.340 contributed through the family income for like 20 years and then the husband decides to retire her

01:07:12.820 you know oh come on that whole movement was totally astroturf that's one and two one of

01:07:17.700 the right to vote this out there's a good argument from a christian perspective to make that the

01:07:22.100 husband the head of the household should be the one voting within his dogma that would make sense

01:07:26.820 so there is a christian case that you could make for that that the head of household the white

01:07:31.460 right now what goes on in christian households is that the wife is just doubling the vote of the man 0.74

01:07:35.860 right so this is not against the purview of fuentes and it doesn't even sound particularly

01:07:41.060 misogynistic to me okay 19th amendment if he harry what's your response to that

01:07:45.880 uncensored is proudly sponsored by cozy earth which like me delivers next level quality today's show

01:07:52.060 is sponsored by oxford natural make and there's so much to respond to right there i do want to

01:07:57.320 point out that andrew was talking about you know nick fuentes is a good christian he was he's being

01:08:01.860 celibate until marriage because of this reason that's not what he said in the interview when 0.86

01:08:04.980 he was going back and forth with you on this peers he talked about how women are gross and 0.99

01:08:09.000 they get fat and they're ugly and he wouldn't get women do get fat they gain 20 pounds in the first 1.00

01:08:14.700 five years of marriage i just hate men like this will say anything to bang you they will say 0.99

01:08:19.880 anything his female friend a tampon because they're gross and things like that so andrew is 0.61

01:08:26.440 making an argument for nick that nick did not make any interview nick fuentes is just an open

01:08:31.580 misogynist who has spent far too much time in his basement alone festering online and getting

01:08:36.820 involved in his own conspiracy theories that he's creating there's nothing or at least in his via

01:08:41.300 his own words in the interview he did not present it as a a case of him being religious and him

01:08:46.020 staying uh perfectly religious text now no yes he did i have the quote i have to go watch go andrew

01:08:52.260 go watch the viral coverage wait wait wait andrew go watch the back and forth with pierce go watch

01:08:57.860 go watch the back and forth with peers when he in front of me andrew andrew andrew please be quiet

01:09:02.740 Go watch the back and forth with peers in that specific instance where Pierce asked him,

01:09:06.960 why are you a virgin? Have you slept with anybody?

01:09:09.420 And yes, go watch the clip.

01:09:11.380 Fine, let the record speak for itself.

01:09:12.800 You can go watch the clip if you'd like.

01:09:14.020 That's what he said.

01:09:14.800 No, you said he didn't give a reason.

01:09:17.180 Andrew, can you please be, can you please be quiet?

01:09:18.960 Can you just zip it for a second?

01:09:20.320 Why don't we watch the exchange again and clarify?

01:09:22.600 Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it.

01:09:25.340 Are you actually attracted to women?

01:09:28.520 I am attracted to women. 0.99

01:09:30.380 You're not gay? 1.00

01:09:32.260 No. 0.99

01:09:33.400 But I will say that women are very difficult to be around. 1.00

01:09:37.680 So there's that.

01:09:39.660 And do you think they should have the right to vote?

01:09:42.720 I do not. No, absolutely not.

01:09:45.360 They should stay at home?

01:09:48.140 Well, yeah, absolutely. 0.98

01:09:50.880 So basically, you're just a misogynist old dinosaur, aren't you? 0.99

01:09:53.940 For a young guy. 0.99

01:09:55.020 I mean, I know I'm the boomer. I know I'm the boomer here.

01:09:58.260 But actually, you're a 27-year-old dinosaur, aren't you?

01:10:01.500 Aren't you, Nick Fuentes? 0.99

01:10:02.300 all women all women are annoying all women grow old they all get fat says the guy have you ever 1.00

01:10:09.620 had sex no absolutely that's a low blow and who cares like it's even when you guys i mean this is 0.99

01:10:17.960 what no offense but like sexless guys they're the ones obsessed with body count all men care

01:10:25.840 they don't want to hoe but when a guy's ran through a bunch of women they just they're not 0.99

01:10:31.980 as concerned it's like a psychological thing they're not it's it's something that kind of

01:10:39.740 sexless men tend to you know do but they'll they'll come at me and be like pearl pearl pearl

01:10:44.780 you know and i'm like guys that's personal like i know it's like with the internet you could just

01:10:50.060 say anything to people but nobody in real life would go up to him at a job and say are you a

01:10:54.940 virgin or what's your body count like uh like people don't do that wow since the guy you've

01:11:00.140 never got laid that's the thing though you boomers it's always free love you've never got laid

01:11:08.000 yeah we're we are going back to the stone age you're absolutely right this you know you're

01:11:15.280 talking about empathy and your kids are empathetic and they would never laugh at a joke about the 0.98

01:11:19.760 holocaust and you're a misogynist you're a simp yourself you're totally hen packed that's the 0.62

01:11:24.540 problem so he doesn't actually there uh andrew mention the reason that you've given not in that 0.98

01:11:33.040 clip but he did mention that he is supposed to be chased he did say it right there why why didn't

01:11:43.380 he say it right there because it that's bad faith you see it's like this is like arguing with a 0.82

01:11:49.440 woman he's reasoning right there with women are gross and they get fat and things like that yeah 1.00

01:11:53.820 wait no but if this is so important that's a cherry pick no no andrew if that's i'd never 0.97

01:12:00.560 marry a girl that's run through well here's the problem you'll never know

01:12:03.480 i've seen better i've been i've seen better players than you get

01:12:09.440 get got you're just never gonna know it's neurotic people they want to control the universe 0.99

01:12:19.440 every guy thinks their bitch is different every guy pretty much every guy's bitch is the same 1.00

01:12:28.200 i'm just being real here i'm being real 0.99

01:12:30.360 his reason his reason doesn't change in five minutes he doesn't go from oh i'm a catholic 0.98

01:12:37.680 i'm i'm staying true my religion women are gross and that's why i don't do it wait wait wait you 1.00

01:12:42.740 just said that his religion is the main reason as to why he's celibate so now he was the main 0.94

01:12:47.120 reason five minutes before and then it fast forward to five minutes later and he said well 0.65

01:12:51.040 women are gross that doesn't mean he can't have multiple reasons it's just such an important 0.99

01:12:55.120 reason that he didn't bring it up again that makes total sense he just brought up yeah because women 1.00

01:12:59.280 are annoying but i think most men would get married if we weren't so awful to be around

01:13:06.640 we're just yeah we're just not it you know

01:13:12.080 entirely different okay so that was his first place that was his first reason because it was

01:13:16.480 the most important but in that interaction he didn't say anything about religion and if it's

01:13:22.000 nah it's easy to know anyone that's been with a lot of women can tell a 304 was 0.97

01:13:25.760 from something as simple as the way they walk i've seen better players than you get got that's

01:13:31.200 all i'm saying that's all i'm saying central view if it's so central to who he is and that

01:13:38.800 he faces his views off of well the other thing the other thing if i could jump in the other 0.96

01:13:43.760 man it's ridiculous the other thing the other thing we bring come on don't crash out like you

01:13:47.200 did on that podcast man hang on let me bring uh glenn back in the other argument which i thought

01:13:50.960 was interesting and i thought i missed a bit of a trick here with him was when he was talking about

01:13:55.280 hot the hot the holocaust where people have assumed he's a holocaust denial because of

01:13:59.600 things he said in the past of trivializing it questioning question number of people who've

01:14:03.360 died and so on he seemed to try and take a more moderate position which was yes i believe

01:14:08.480 six million jews were killed maybe more whether he meant that or whether he was being some sort of 0.65

01:14:14.880 satirical he was satirizing you he was satirizing that that's what i that's what i now believe was

01:14:20.000 probably happening yeah so i i suspect he was satirizing you it's like what do you guys not

01:14:24.960 talk to people guys like the video we're at a thousand people watching it'd be cool to break

01:14:28.720 like 1.2 we haven't gotten that many in a while um okay and plus even if she's not a hoe she's 1.00

01:14:37.280 She's not a hoe right now. 1.00

01:14:39.900 It doesn't guarantee she won't hoe later, you know. 1.00

01:14:44.600 Yeah.

01:14:45.340 But regardless, his argument was it all happened so long ago.

01:14:49.340 Why did Jews continue talking about the Holocaust? 0.98

01:14:52.260 We've all moved on.

01:14:53.660 They use it all the time as a political weapon and so on.

01:14:56.660 And of course, I suppose the obvious question for him, I went and checked afterwards how many times he's talked about, for example, on his show, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, which was over 2000.

01:15:06.580 Pearl, you use black people's trauma to get more likes. That's disgusting. What are you, a woman? 1.00

01:15:16.480 Do you know what I mean? I mean, that just sounds like something a woman would say. 1.00

01:15:20.560 You used my trauma. Well, good. Good. Good.

01:15:27.440 Years ago. He does it all the time. So, you know, if I'd been smart in the moment as a fellow

01:15:32.940 Christian. I would say, well, hang on, but isn't that exactly what Christians do all the time 1.00

01:15:37.000 about the crucifixion? What's the difference? And that sounds like his religion does matter

01:15:41.340 because it's absolutely central to their religion. And I think, you know, I do think so much of what

01:15:47.660 your interview with Nick Fontes highlighted was extreme generational differences. It was

01:15:52.060 sometimes like watching two people speak different languages. You know, Piers, you and I are kind of

01:15:56.660 the same age. You're obviously older. Everyone can see that, but just a little bit. And, you know,

01:15:59.900 for people who were born in like the 60s the holocaust was just 20 years before world war

01:16:05.460 ii had just ended 20 years before there was a mythology about the united states about our role

01:16:10.600 in the world about how great of a country we were about all the great things we did about the

01:16:15.020 holocaust the unique evil now it's 75 years ago and people who are next generation where harry's 0.96

01:16:20.740 were born in you know 2000 in 2002 and this idea that like yeah the holocaust has been weaponized

01:16:28.020 we've been yeah so the older generation's been hen packed a lot more than the younger guys the 0.95

01:16:33.480 younger guys are like we're not marrying these bitches let's get money where the older generation 1.00

01:16:38.620 even if they're not hen packed at home a lot of them are in corporate america young guys they're 0.99

01:16:43.760 they're ubering they're like i don't want to be nagged all day beaten over the head with it for

01:16:48.420 eight decades we've been forced to spend and pay huge amounts of money in reparations or that

01:16:53.240 slavery is sometimes weaponized that way this is a very common view so i think when he's doing

01:16:59.380 things like making jokes about the holocaust it's not because he thinks it's funny that huge numbers 0.93

01:17:02.940 of people were exterminated i think it's a way of purposely being transgressive about orthodoxies

01:17:08.520 and pieties that a lot of people in his generation don't accept but there was a bit yeah but

01:17:12.840 hang on there was glenn there was a callousness to it and i'll tell you why i brought on a guy

01:17:20.980 called Danny Finkelstein is a top journalist for the Times newspaper over here who wrote a very

01:17:25.280 powerful book about his family and their horrendous experience at the hands of Hitler and Stalin

01:17:30.880 and it's incredibly powerful it's very moving it's informed his life and I'm going to talk

01:17:37.020 to Danny actually after we finish this because he's been on the receiving end of the most

01:17:40.740 appalling abuse in the last 48 hours all directed by Nick Fuentes who was so dismissive of him

01:17:47.920 okay okay abuse i don't like that word because i think there's some women maybe that actually 1.00

01:17:54.240 get beat out there probably not but like you never know and it would just be nice for them

01:17:59.760 you know to get real abuse points and men that get beat um but you're saying that you're getting

01:18:05.600 abuse because you logged into an app and people said mean words it's like okay of him talking

01:18:11.760 about his mother and father so just callous in the way he responded it's that kind of utter

01:18:17.920 devoidness of empathy of any empathy whatsoever you can have a view that we should try and move

01:18:23.720 on generationally from these seismic moments okay but you don't have to be so callous towards

01:18:28.900 somebody whose family literally got murdered by people like hitler and stalin do we i mean

01:18:33.980 but the idea peter i think the thing is is like this generation of people grew up in the wake of

01:18:41.420 the iraq war in the wake of endless war in the wake of the destruction of their financial security

01:18:46.000 with the 2008 financial crisis, with all the lies of COVID and Russiagate and all the rest of it,

01:18:51.320 and faith and trust in these institutions have collapsed. So when they look at people who

01:18:56.140 represent institutional thinking and they're told you're not allowed to make fun of this and you're

01:18:59.920 not allowed to talk about this and accept in the ways that we prescribe and we're going to call

01:19:03.380 you all these names unless you affirm all these pieties over and over and over again, one of the

01:19:08.300 ways of rebelling against that is to say, you know, it's a very common generational reaction

01:19:12.660 is to say f you we're going to transgress every line that you told us we can't because we hate

01:19:17.960 you we think that the things that you're doing have been destructive to our lives and i think

01:19:22.120 like ignoring that part of you know what i think it's a very you know what glenn i think it's a

01:19:28.940 very valid point and there may well be a generational thing to this let me bring in

01:19:32.620 bringing in warren just for the record by the way andrew we've just we've just been through

01:19:36.120 the whole transcript and he never uses uh the excuse that you put you may have heard him do

01:19:42.300 it elsewhere he talked about clergy whether women should be allowed to uh to be clergy women and so

01:19:48.800 on uh and and obviously they can't under the catholic church doctrine but he never uses

01:19:53.880 he never says it's for religious reasons primary view his primary view is he's supposed to wait

01:19:59.720 until marriage that may be his view but he didn't he didn't he didn't express that view in my

01:20:05.200 interview is the point we've just checked the transcript andrew was just saying oh i have the

01:20:08.480 quote i have the quote and there's no quote it may be no i'm not i can't rule out i can't rule

01:20:12.700 out he hasn't said it elsewhere and it may be andrew's heard him say that before i'm just saying

01:20:17.300 in my interview he doesn't put on tv we can just say you know what i made a mistake it's okay to

01:20:22.000 be like yeah i got it wrong i may have heard it yeah yeah yeah i like that all right let me bring

01:20:26.280 warren back in look warren you're a critical thinker um you know glenn's you know stopped

01:20:32.700 me in my tracks a little bit and made me think about this right because i think there is probably

01:20:36.940 a generational thing here and i do think that in a way you know maybe mark's right that by

01:20:42.500 me interviewing fuentes the only real winner at the end of the day may be nick fuentes because

01:20:48.300 none of his supporters certainly from the reaction i've had um have changed their their impression

01:20:54.680 of him one iota i mean they just assumed he just landslided me and that was it and i was an old

01:20:59.740 boomer sent packing um and it may be as mark says that other more moderate people quite like some of

01:21:05.580 the things they heard i don't know he is charismatic he's a good talker and he's smart and all these

01:21:09.640 things i don't dispute any of that from a critical thinking point of view where does this take

01:21:14.800 society if people like nick fuentes grow ever more popular what will happen to a whole army of young 0.88

01:21:21.940 men here last night i held a focus group to try and get to the bottom of this and i was

01:21:28.500 with over 30 people the vast majority three disagreed with the vast majority and what they're

01:21:35.980 they were saying things such as i went into this exchange not expecting to like anything about this

01:21:42.380 guy but what i saw was pierce not yeah and that's why they kick him on off off of all the shows is

01:21:46.780 because he's very likable that's why when i had him on i'm like this guy's great he's hilarious

01:21:51.300 and then that was the end of my career that was i was cooked that was it you know

01:21:58.500 contending with his arguments i think that's why when you bring up his dad

01:22:05.080 that's why he gets upset because he's saying look man i'm here let's talk why are you talking about

01:22:10.600 my dad contend with my logic it's the same thing when he that was his response when you brought on

01:22:17.800 your british friend who told his horrific story which like it's it's terrible and you could

01:22:24.360 disagree with his response to it, but I think he's saying, why, why are we, I, you're just telling me

01:22:29.780 what you're saying is bad, but you're not really contending with the argument. And I think that

01:22:35.000 is the core problem that has led to this outcome. Cause you can play these clips and there's nothing

01:22:40.300 wrong with that. I don't think he was surprised by anything that occurred in here. And that's

01:22:44.160 another reason that you're seeing the backlash is because it was exactly what people predicted

01:22:49.120 largely but when you play that clip it's like okay yes that's taken from a large stream

01:22:54.520 in the past people evolve and if you if you're asking him in that conversation to expand on that

01:23:00.160 and then he does and he does present logic what i'm seeing is people say no you're saying that

01:23:06.020 now but you're lying you're playing this game you're pretending to be moderate and now your

01:23:11.400 mind reading you're saying i know what nick fuentes thinks more than nick fuentes and i do think it's

01:23:16.560 really important in these exchanges to come at it with that first principle of, I'm going to take

01:23:21.320 the wild approach that I'm going to wipe the slate blank and assume that the person who knows the

01:23:27.080 most about what Nick Fuentes actually thinks is Nick Fuentes. And that seldom happens.

01:23:31.820 Yeah. And that's like an ambush interview because it's so frustrating talking to people. And it's

01:23:37.960 a woman, like women are the ones that put words in your mouth. When it does, I do see, I saw a 1.00

01:23:44.100 vastly different response to my conversation but i don't think i challenged him in that interview

01:23:49.580 we didn't learn many new things about nick it wasn't a good interview pierce had no interest

01:23:53.700 in learning anything well it was good because he was so he um he he it was such a bad interview

01:24:00.300 that it was good do you know what i mean any less right sorry do you know what it's very interesting

01:24:06.040 it's very interesting i've been reading i mean i read and take note of the more nuanced uh

01:24:11.280 commentary about it i don't listen to the groypers all ranting away or attacking me or my family 0.99

01:24:15.280 whatever i love the gripers i mean i'd ask if you guys could please stop tweeting me pictures of my

01:24:21.040 ex-boyfriend stop sparking at the current you know

01:24:32.800 but they're funny i'm gonna give them that they're funny i think a lot of them are sexless i won't

01:24:37.600 won't lie. I don't think a lot of them get laid. I'm just going to be real here. And I don't mean

01:24:44.260 that as an insult, but usually when people spurg about race too much, yeah, sorry, I know. It's

01:24:50.840 just, it's kind of, because men that get laid know that, like, the getting laid market is a

01:24:56.160 different arena. It transcends race. Hold on. I want to talk about what I think about interracial

01:25:03.960 dating because i've i can actually live i've seen the downsides of it and the upsides i've seen both

01:25:11.240 um and no it is you're saying it's cope it's kind of no it's kind of cope for the white guys

01:25:17.640 because that's why they're mad that the white girls date interracially because they're losing 1.00

01:25:22.280 to like what they would deem lower status men um here where's this proposal proposal

01:25:29.800 girl dancing i think the most important thing for a guy and a girl and a couple

01:25:39.240 um i gotta find this and i knew this couple was gonna be still married when i saw this clip

01:25:46.120 the most important thing that transcends race

01:25:50.920 anything is that a man is with a woman that views him like this

01:25:59.160 Hey fans, don't be

01:26:01.160 Say a word and kiss the girl 0.97

01:26:04.580 Shalalalalala

01:26:08.480 Don't be scared

01:26:09.840 You've got to go on, prepare

01:26:11.580 Go on and kiss the girl 1.00

01:26:14.260 Shalalalalala

01:26:16.260 Don't stop now

01:26:17.540 Don't try to hide any house

01:26:19.360 Kiss the girl 0.99

01:26:21.720 That's great

01:26:23.060 Gotta wait, hold on

01:26:25.640 So even that couple

01:26:27.920 That was a white couple

01:26:28.960 And she's, like, barely going in for the kiss.

01:26:31.460 Now listen to the song, the song is kiss the girl.

01:26:36.900 Sha-la-la-la-la, the music play, do what the music say, you gotta kiss the girl. 1.00

01:26:44.620 Sha-la-la-la-la, my oh my, look like a boy, she's shy, he's gonna kiss the girl. 0.95

01:26:52.260 Sha-la-la-la-la.

01:26:53.460 leading off for the diamondbacks shortstop statement i think the most important thing

01:27:04.680 is that you have a girl that's this excited to marry you i'm not even i'm not even like

01:27:10.060 like i don't really think i want my brother i wouldn't prefer they dated black 1.00

01:27:15.920 right or an asian i prefer white right just like they vice versa but it's like imagine this guy's 0.95

01:27:23.940 got two options a bitchy white woman who's like a karen because a lot of guys think that they're 1.00

01:27:29.380 going to be in control of what women like them you don't really know who's going to like you 1.00

01:27:32.820 um but i think the most important thing is that the girl looks at the man like this

01:27:38.800 and if she doesn't

01:27:41.460 like that to me transcends all

01:27:46.960 because you know they say do it for the culture 0.93

01:27:50.900 it's like the culture hasn't done shit for us 0.96

01:27:53.420 you know what I mean 0.96

01:28:08.800 Yeah. Yeah. So that's kind of my view on it. I know people, and I've seen, I'm not even saying

01:28:13.900 there's no downsides to it, but to me, that's the most important thing.

01:28:21.140 That's the, that she's excited to be with you. And then that day, no, you're not really in

01:28:25.820 control of who's excited to be with you. Yeah. She puts out more her, yeah, I'm sure she's, 0.98

01:28:34.660 but a lot of white asian women have herpes too you know it just kind of you're i mean it's a roll 1.00

01:28:41.140 the dice um honest question why would a white guy marion have kids with a black woman because she 1.00

01:28:48.020 looked at him like that i i don't necessarily like or dislike a lot of people say i'm really

01:28:56.560 an equal opportunity employer i'm going to be honest here um i i'm open to all

01:29:04.260 but yeah it could be scripted but you guys get that you get the point it's like a couple when

01:29:10.520 you've seen it so anyways um i know they're gonna say i'm woke i don't care i don't care

01:29:21.500 all right that's me for the day i'm kind of sick i could feel myself losing steam a little bit um

01:29:27.580 Should I marry a goth girl? If she looks at you like that, why not? 1.00

01:29:39.120 Anyways, guys, thanks for watching. I appreciate it. Probably tomorrow. If I'm feeling better,

01:29:46.860 i'm gonna do um i'll be i'll be doing either the coach or um there's like one other one the coach

01:29:58.940 or oh candace owens i want an apology from all the people all the people white knighting in my

01:30:03.820 comment section i want an apology everyone that said why do you keep i want the one guy you called

01:30:10.860 into my show to lecture me to stop going after candace owens i want you to call into my show now 0.98

01:30:16.140 and i want to lecture you about how you're a simp

01:30:25.900 so anyways i love you guys thanks for watching

01:30:29.020 um and i'll see you guys next time bye

Pearl - December 17, 2025

Piers Morgan COPES Over Losing Nick Fuentes Debate

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