In this episode of Pearl Daily, I talk about IVF, Kanye West, and why women should have kids in their late 30s to mid-40s. I also talk about a tweet Kanye West sent the other day that got everyone upset.
00:10:57.880mix-up. The IVF process has been grueling. Murray, now 38, has ensured multiple daily injections,
00:11:05.120frequent blood draws, bouts of nausea, and exhaustion, a first embryo transfer that didn't
00:11:10.740take, and finally pregnancy and labor. Then a DNA test revealed that the Georgia fertility clinic
00:11:17.480Murray had used had implanted a different couple's embryo in her uterus. After raising the baby for
00:11:25.140five months murray heartbroken handed him over to the biological parents so she gave birth
00:11:32.940to a child that wasn't hers oh i would be so pissed
00:11:37.480oh i would be done we all met in court and the decision was made she said i walked in
00:11:44.900a mom and a child and a baby who loved me and was mine and was attached to me and i walked out of
00:11:50.860the building with an empty stroller and they left with my son she sued the clinic last month
00:11:57.100white women love doing the sperm donor thing i think we're the highest earning other than asian
00:12:07.900so we're the we're the ones with the money for the dumb shit right like that's do you know what
00:12:14.560we we're all different races of women and not all i'm speaking in generalities we just have
00:12:23.760different tools of how we're crazy right you know like you you see the black women in the news and
00:12:32.000not all not all but like you know they're throwing hands or whatever and you see that a lot right
00:12:37.280white women we just sign up for dumb shit so like if you see a kid that's transitioned
00:12:44.780that's getting transitioned right guarantee the white it's a white woman doing it if you see like
00:12:53.320um a kid like grow i'm gonna raise my kid non-binary it's white like we have the money
00:13:00.340for those gender clinics or whatever it is um and the IVF stuff I do really see a lot of white
00:13:09.640women doing this um now again I'm not saying other nationalities don't or races don't but
00:13:17.280I can just speak from where I I grew up okay okay so she sued the clinic last month although
00:13:24.000While many cases like Murray's are thought to be rare, an NBC News analysis of federal and state legal databases found more than 300 lawsuits filed from 2019 to 2024, alleging that embryos, eggs, or sperm has been lost, destroyed, or swapped.
00:13:42.340The suits were filed against fertility clinics or companies involved in the IVF process across 19 states.
00:13:49.980and the majority at least 260 involved alleged allegations of product or equipment failures
00:13:59.640some legal experts say that the cases are in part a product of the industry's rapid growth
00:14:06.060the number of babies born via assisted reproductive technology which includes ivf
00:14:11.460more than quadrupled from 1996 to 2022 the number of fertility procedures increased more than six
00:14:19.020fold. Market researchers estimated the U.S. fertility industry was worth $5.7 billion last year.
00:14:29.140IVF isn't governed by the same regulations that hold other medical practitioners accountable for
00:14:35.240mistakes or safety violations. Three legal experts said, for example, although more than half of
00:14:41.000states require hospitals to report serious avoidable medical errors to regulators,
00:14:46.000those requirements don't apply to IVF clinics and embryo and embryology labs aren't subject
00:14:54.820to federal inspections the way say blood banks are instead most are inspected by accredited
00:15:01.320accredited organizations what's what's more there is no established established legal claim
00:15:07.860pertaining to lost or swapped embryos like there is for medical malpractice cases involving errors
00:15:15.580by health care providers so ivf patients have a hard time seeking redress after something goes
00:15:22.200wrong few of the lawsuits in nbc's news analysis have gone to trial and of those that have been
00:15:29.560resolved most were settled or dismissed adam wolf wolf an attorney representing murray says he
00:15:35.460expects to see more cases like hers because in his view the u.s lacks sufficient state and federal
00:15:41.740regulations governing fertility clinics and labs so again this is what women do not all not all
00:15:47.580not all have a tendency to do i'll say we make a bad choice right or a risky choice right like for
00:15:56.920example a woman gets goes to miami and gets a bbl that's risky but when things go south and it looks
00:16:08.560pretty stupid she's going to blame the surgeon or say she was lied to and where if a guy gets a
00:16:17.480risky surgery like that height lengthening surgery he's just going to say i took a risk and it didn't
00:16:23.300pay off right until ivf clinics are subject to real regulations reporting requirements and
00:16:30.180mandatory certification programs for lab staff these type of errors will continue to occur
00:16:36.240he said at a news conference last month wolf is part of a growing chorus of former ivf patients
00:16:44.400lawyers and bioethics and even anti-abortion advocates calling for increased regulation
00:16:49.860of ivf so all the lawyers are looking at this they're saying i can't wait to make money off
00:16:56.600these dumb hoes it's like the divorce industry right now there's going to be an ivf lawsuit and
00:17:03.820it just keeps going it's like women make dumb decision right and then the men watch it and
00:17:11.100they say i can't stop them how can i make money off of this and do you know what happens do you
00:17:17.120know what happens then there's a whole industry that's born like for example melania trump is
00:17:24.300passing like an anti-nude images on the internet so women take nudes send them around that's a
00:17:30.600risky decision right you're trusting someone else to not share them we all know men have a hard drive
00:17:37.440we all know that you guys don't delete shit okay they have it forever so knowing that women can
00:17:45.140make the choice to not do it or know that it's a calculated risk now instead if things get leaked
00:17:52.420on the internet again what do women do they sue now what's what's pixie suing destiny for
00:17:58.520if these all become industries of women making stupid decisions and men realizing they can sue
00:18:06.640other people because women can't take accountability so it'll just be a lawsuit you know it's the same
00:18:12.200thing with the marriage you know women you know men know when they get married it's a calculated
00:18:17.280risk it might work out it might not but women can't take that l right they can't they don't
00:21:22.220Many of the allegations against the clinic have gone into arbitration.
00:21:26.840However, in one that went to trial, a jury determined that the chart and the Pacific Fertility Center have been negligent and awarded five former patients a total of $15 million.
00:21:39.560Chart appealed and reached a confidential settlement in that case and others.
00:21:45.660um chart prelude fertility and pacific fertility center did not respond to requests for comment
00:21:54.920however the clinic told the nbc bay area shortly after the incident that it had bought in brought
00:22:02.660in independent experts to investigate we are truly sorry that this happened for the anxiety
00:22:08.260that it will surely cause at the time 50 plus other lawsuits in nbc's news analysis were related
00:22:15.880to claims that a liquid used to help fertility eggs develop destroyed hundreds of embryos
00:22:21.560the company that manufactured the solution copper surgical received several lots last year
00:22:28.300cooper surgical did not respond to requests for comment in a statement to nbc last year
00:22:34.940It said that it intended to recall proactively while investigating any potential issues.
00:22:41.420Okay, so, I mean, it just keeps going.
00:22:46.220There is a bunch of issues that have been going on with IVF.
00:22:51.060So we're going to watch a video of another embryo mix-up.
00:24:10.960A child robbed me of my ability to carry my own child, my baby boy, to be with him in the first couple of, you know, moments of his life, to nurse him, to just do, like, skin-on-skin contact.
00:24:29.100I am totally shocked and I am totally dismayed.
00:24:32.180Fertility doctor Jeffrey Steinberg says a mix-up like this is extraordinary.
00:24:35.860Before an embryo can go back into a patient, the computerized records have to be reviewed by the medical director, myself, and the physician, if there's another physician involved.
00:24:47.120The paper records have to be reviewed, the signatures have to be reviewed, and then the entire staff gets together and question the patient.
00:24:55.700And further agonizing for the Manoukians, they say the fertility center never explained what happened to all of their embryos.
00:25:02.020Ani and Ashot have no idea if there is another baby.
00:25:05.160You see this? This is called a shark. This guy right there, he sees an up-and-coming industry.
00:25:13.160He's like, I am going to get rich. I am going to get rich off of these women's decisions.
00:25:18.960In this world, of theirs, that they're unaware of right now.
00:25:24.420Now, Ani Minoukian says her son that she was finally united with is, in her words, a perfect baby.
00:31:10.880Against the clinic and Dr. Bradford Kolb, claiming negligence, malpractice,
00:31:15.320battery, misuse of embryos, and fraudulent concealment.
00:31:19.020And maybe by having this conversation right now, we can lend our little bit of support
00:31:23.520to changing processes, to changing regulations, to having some sort of framework to minimize
00:31:29.120or hopefully completely eliminate when you think about it women are the biggest eugenicists
00:31:35.440like women are the real racist sexists or whatever like they'll abort their kid if it's
00:31:41.820not the right dad or the right sex like they're the they're the og like um eugenicists when you
00:31:48.460think about it ever happening again the diaz's son is now men don't discriminate they'll not in
00:31:54.000just about anything do you know what i mean like they'll
00:31:57.120they'll get like you ever see guys like baby mothers and you're like why would you do that
00:32:04.000like you could have you could have pulled out you know but
00:32:08.060so when you think about it like women yeah there's a big focus on genes amish have zero cancer
00:32:16.840diabetes, autism, $250,000 control group. It's not genes. Well, yeah, but nobody wants to be
00:32:25.140Amish. I mean, do you want to be Amish? I'm not going to go be Amish. So if you're not willing
00:32:30.480to go live like the Amish, I don't like, no one's going to do it. You're in my YouTube chat.
00:32:36.700We're fat. Okay. That's, that's why we have all this stuff. We have old eggs. The women,
00:32:42.100we're having kids too old and we're fat. That's the problem.
00:32:44.860Happy and healthy one-year-old, but will face the life-altering stomach removal surgery his dad underwent as a result of the embryo mix-up.
00:32:52.720What would justice look like for the two of you?
00:32:56.440I don't think there's anything that can justify what happened or what they did.
00:32:59.860My son's still going to have the same future.
00:33:02.020He's still going to have to live his life differently because of something that we tried everything to prevent.
00:33:08.720Reporting for Fox 11, I'm Chelsea Edwards.
00:33:11.140chelsea reached out to the huntington reproductive center for a statement they have not yet
00:33:19.860that was almost ethical ivf i mean i don't really have an opinion on it one way or another but that
00:33:24.980was almost that's pretty understandable you don't want your kid to get cancer
00:33:32.340fertility specialists using assisted reproductive technology to make the pregnancy dreams of
00:33:38.500patients come true are now facing a new and complex ethical dilemma when it comes to what
00:33:44.420to do with abandoned embryos none of us were really trained on what to do with this it's
00:33:49.940a dilemma it's a conundrum it's a problem during the ivf process doctors often create multiple
00:33:56.020embryos which are then either implanted or frozen for use at a later time if a couple decides they
00:34:02.820do not need the remaining embryos they have the following options they can destroy them
00:34:08.020donate them to research or to another couple or continue to pay storage fees which could run
00:34:13.620anywhere from four hundred dollars to more than a thousand dollars a year yeah so there's all
00:34:18.260these embryos that are just sitting and they don't none of these clinics know what to do with them
00:34:23.380and they're not federally regulated so what do you guys think realistically they're gonna do with
00:34:29.940these embryos in many cases patients stop paying their storage bills and stop answering calls
00:34:37.540leaving the clinics with what they call abandoned embryos if you talk to patients when they're
00:34:43.380thinking about having a child nobody thinks that they'll ever discard or abandon their embryos
00:34:47.940dr craig sweet runs a fertility clinic in florida he says about a quarter of the frozen embryos at
00:34:53.860his clinic have been abandoned and according to experts it's a problem in fertility clinics
00:34:59.220across the country over time of more and more embryos have accumulated that have been abandoned
00:35:05.780i know of organizations that have bats of abandoned embryos and they're afraid to discard them it's
00:35:12.660unclear exactly how many frozen embryos have been abandoned nationwide some doctors estimate the
00:35:19.220number to be in the hundreds of thousands while other studies suggest it could be in the millions
00:35:25.380adding additional complications to the debate the fact that embryos are fertilized eggs
00:35:30.740meaning they have a potential for life alissa strauss and her husband turned to ivf to conceive
00:35:37.540their second child after she was diagnosed with secondary infertility when her son was just five
00:35:43.940months by the way when women are infertile if it's not endometriosis a lot of times
00:35:52.180they don't tell you this it's an std it's like hpv or some other std that left them that way
00:36:01.540a lot of you guys get trapped where the woman says oh i'm infertile it's like
00:36:07.860it might be that they were faced with the decision of what to do with their remaining embryos
00:36:13.940all of a sudden you realize that you have these two things and they're the size of a poppy seed
00:36:19.460but at the same time they're kind of the most important things alissa says she wasn't prepared
00:36:24.980to make the emotional decision i just wanted to be a mom with a new baby you're talking to someone
00:36:30.260that's so desperate to have in the end just an embryo that's going to work out for them and to
00:36:35.940kind of bring up you might have extra i don't know that how you emotionally can handle that
00:36:40.980the strausses ultimately decided to donate their embryos to research but it wasn't easy
00:36:46.820at some point you're gonna doug mpa says 15 of women will be infertile in the u.s and 25
00:36:53.300of female doctors are infertile well it's because they're throwing it back you know throwing it back
00:37:00.340raw they get too many gonorrhea diagnosis or whatever and then boom and then now women are
00:37:10.660giving birth to kids with STDs. If you have an incurable STD that's going to be passed
00:37:16.720on to your kid, you might as well just not have them. That is not fair.
00:37:21.780To face down the decision. So the more we talk about it, the more people say, hey, you're
00:37:26.380going to have this big decision to make.
00:37:28.28030 Doug MPA says 30% of the women in the military are infertile. You know, I've heard a lot
00:37:34.780about these military women. I have not heard great things. I won't lie to you ladies. I've
00:37:40.020heard terrible things about you. It's going to be tough. Here's some ways to think through it.
00:37:44.360You know, the less likely I think we are for people to be stuck in that indecision, which is
00:37:48.940so common. We've dedicated our lives for building families and throwing embryos in a biohazardous
00:37:53.900waste container just seems really wasteful. Concerned about the increasing number of
00:37:59.480abandoned embryos, Dr. Sweet has made his clinic a non-discard facility, meaning all of his patients
00:38:06.120must agree they will donate and not discard their embryos. He says he made the decision for ethical,
00:38:12.500not religious reasons. We have to take a look at this and go, this is a problem and we need to try,
00:38:19.060try to solve it. We may not be able to solve all of it, but I do think we can make things better.
00:38:23.920Yeah. Do you know what? I got to be honest, guys. You know how men can spread their seed?
00:38:31.860now women can essentially spread their eggs that is never you've never been able to do that in
00:38:38.920history would it be it would be the man and the woman's eggs and sperm but i think women can
00:38:46.680donate their eggs too it's kind of cool only guys have been able to do that ever
00:38:56.240worried that the longer we wait like if i i'm not gonna do i'm gonna say i'm not gonna do this so
00:39:03.780don't go around saying i'm gonna do it but i'm just saying hypothetically i could donate a bunch
00:39:09.080and then i could get like a half asian pearl right and then a half black pearl like mini pearl kid
00:39:17.420and then a half like latina and then a white like a ginger do you see what do you guys see
00:39:24.260what I'm saying? Like it could be only men have had the opportunity historically to do that. Now
00:39:29.660women can do that. Bigger the problem will be. So given this issue, some doctors say that the
00:39:39.720fertility industry needs regulation. For example, Germany and Italy both have laws that only allow
00:39:45.560three embryos to be created and transferred at a time. So that avoids surplus embryos altogether.
00:39:51.080but as of now pearl reed is there anything good that you have to say about ivf at all
00:39:57.240it gave us nick f i'm indifferent to it i'm not for or against
00:48:24.300man i'm not gonna you know i think the reason why there's so many children with developmental
00:48:31.660delays and birth defects is because older women are having older children with their older eggs
00:48:37.920yeah i don't have any scientific background for that but uh if you ask me that's what i think it
00:48:44.240is um we got matt coming in and i'm gonna read the chat while he comes in um a guy can do it
00:48:53.500anytime within reason so they get the career and the money to care for the wife who concentrates
00:48:59.100on the child rearing children require a lot of energy from their parents the younger the parents
00:49:04.140the more energy they have they're healthier too um okay hello matt welcome to the show
00:49:11.820so we got two ques or um you can answer any of these questions um that apply to you so the first
00:49:18.300is i'd love to know if you have any personal experience with ivf either either a woman you
00:49:24.140know or maybe someone you dated how do you feel about it overall or if you were dating an older
00:49:32.600woman and she wanted to have a child would you consider ivf so feel free to answer any of those
00:49:39.700that apply oh he left well i guess we're going to go to the next one
00:49:47.620um okay hello hey how's it going uh hello how you doing how you doing uh this uh conscious energy
00:50:04.420uh you know speaking to you with the spectacular vernacular doing it all legal so i can fly like
00:50:11.020ego i'm sending you tons and tons of good energy pearl take that take that on a beautiful day we
00:50:17.660just breathing that good out you know i wanted to talk about this okay kerfuffle just for a few
00:50:24.380minutes you know uh first off i want to say i've been watching your channel a long time
00:50:28.940you probably never heard of me my name conscious energy but um i've been in your chat room trolling
00:50:33.660some time as uh uh dbz dbz nation you know i'm always in your chat room oh yeah good to hear
00:50:42.060from you bro good to hear from you you're always really positive from the chat so thank you for
00:50:46.060coming up yeah man i'm always saying you know pearl is our queen whatever you know i just be trolling
00:50:52.300but yeah is is this is this steve or doug doug mpa oh okay yeah yeah yeah well you know uh pearl i
00:51:01.900just wanted to talk for a few minutes about the kerfuffle you know with the with the ladies in
00:51:06.860the in the embryos and whatnot okay and it brings me to a to a story that happened with the kardashians
00:51:12.940i don't know if a lot of people remember but um chloe kardashian and i believe uh the oldest um
00:51:20.620sister all froze they eggs and um you know you know in california because it's very expensive
00:51:28.540but um i think chloe kardashian she froze her eggs and she was paying like i think fifty thousand
00:51:35.820dollars a year to keep them froze and so what i think like i said i'm just speaking from a male
00:51:41.900perspective respectfully but what i think is going on keep in mind that broke women are women who who
00:51:50.700don't make a lot of money can't much afford to freeze their eggs it's very very expensive not
00:51:56.220only to extract the egg but also to freeze it and to take care of it and i think that um kourtney
00:52:04.060kardashian i think she went back you know she just had a baby with that um with the rock star you
00:52:09.420know that played the drums and she almost in her late 40s and she was able to to use her embryos
00:52:16.140and so as far as you know travis barker travis yeah that guy right there you know interesting
00:52:24.060but you know it's just like i say it's nothing it's nothing that a regular nine to five everyday
00:52:30.620woman or man can afford because it's very expensive and i only think you know people
00:52:36.460of well means can afford to even freeze their eggs go ahead pearl so would you consider it
00:52:43.340if the woman paid for it well of course of course but okay so you'd be you'd be okay with it if you
00:52:51.260were dating a woman and she said look i'm a little older but i'll pay for the ivf
00:52:57.180and yeah okay i mean i mean if you're dating an older woman and she wants to you know have kids
00:53:04.060whatever i mean hey you know she wanted to pay for it but like i said it's very expensive i mean
00:53:09.740some somebody if you make an under on this beyond if you make an under a hundred grand a year you
00:53:16.940You probably can't afford to extract the eggs to freeze them and to take care of them.
00:53:21.480And that's why I think a lot of that, a lot of those, because you sound like a lot of doctors don't want to throw away the embryos because it's still like a human life.
00:53:29.000But I think, you know, some of the companies don't have a choice because the women, some of the women can't afford to long term care for those embryos.
00:53:39.680So, you know, they end up in these unfortunate kerfuffles, you know what I mean?
00:55:17.460Just a reminder, the questions that you can answer, and you don't have to answer all of these, just the ones that apply to you, are, do you know anyone personally that's dealt with IVF?
00:55:31.200either, you know, a sister, friend, girlfriend, whatever. And if you were dating an older woman
00:55:37.280and she wanted to have a child, would you consider IVF? Like check. Yeah. Andrew here.
00:55:45.260Hi, Pearl. Thank you for having me. My wife and I have done IVF. She has a stage four endometriosis
00:55:55.040and we were attempting natural conception didn't work so yeah we did it and yeah it's a super
00:56:06.800traumatic to say the least there's so many things that go into fertility issues that
00:56:15.480aren't spoken about mental health issues physical issues that women go through especially women with
00:56:24.140endometriosis. Apparently, women are born with endometriosis and it shows up their first
00:56:34.920menstruation. The only way to stop it is to get pregnant early. So all that to say, our
00:56:42.140experience with fertility issues and IVF kind of showed how much the social norm of today
00:56:50.980A is, you know, the woman wants to have her career, get established, have some savings, buy a house, and then have kids.
00:57:00.220But a lot of women aren't able to do that.
00:57:02.540And by the time they figure it out, it's much too late.
00:57:07.560How much did you, so did you end up getting pregnant from, or not you, but her, did she end up getting pregnant from it?
01:08:40.940hopefully they can find out as soon as they can.
01:08:42.580As soon as they do find out they have it,
01:08:43.980they should stop screwing around i mean even my wife i think you know there was a period between
01:08:49.240her her first relationship and me that she was kind of just traveling or working hanging out
01:08:54.920and it's like she didn't really take it very seriously but i know she would have probably
01:08:58.340attempted to find someone a lot sooner um had she known was it painful at all like the procedures
01:09:07.320or whatever like did her body have side effects from like the drugs she had to take definitely
01:09:12.220Well, yeah, not the drugs, the procedures were painful. It was a lot of procedures. It's this whole process. If you think of plants, I don't know if you have a garden or anything, but there's a lot of stuff you have to do to the ground before you're able to start a garden.
01:09:31.340and um that's kind of a good analogy for all of the doctor visits all of the you know they had
01:09:36.700to do these scopes and go into her uterus and clean it out and have to um do all of these these
01:09:43.020things uh and then not to mention um birth process for women with endometriosis is pretty tough
01:09:49.900because um all of those years of endometriosis causing damage it it causes fibrosis and when
01:09:56.620fibrosis sets into your reproductive organs they don't stretch as well and then usually these
01:10:02.140women are having to have c-sections and when you cut into tissue that has fibrosis it bleeds a lot
01:10:07.980more so each time she's gone into labor we've had to do a c-section and she's lost a ton of blood
01:10:14.780this last time she had uh major complications including like a pneumothorax um they had to
01:10:21.660remove like a big fibroid there's just all kinds of issues which were super traumatic and i think
01:10:29.820a lot of that too has to do with having kids later and then the recovery process also um if she was
01:10:36.140in you know if she was in tick-top crazy shape i think the surgery recovery would have been easier
01:10:41.420but you know as you get older you you you know you may become a bit more sedentary so she she
01:10:47.020probably didn't recover well because of that as well so a lot of these things i think yeah you
01:10:51.180know had to do with being a little bit older the endometriosis okay because i was just wondering
01:10:56.460why it came up out of nowhere and so that makes like it didn't seem like that was a problem 50
01:11:01.900years ago so that what you said about pregnancy like stopping it that makes perfect sense
01:11:09.020yeah yeah yeah because there's no more periods and yeah i think a long time ago it wasn't a big
01:11:13.420issue because women were getting pregnant you know they were getting married in their early 20s
01:11:19.100that's only a few years of endometriosis doing its thing and um i've talked to a couple older ladies
01:11:25.420um i work you know with a bunch of nurses so we talk and they they were saying um you know women
01:11:31.260in their 50s and 60s they were saying when they were in their teenage years um around graduating
01:11:37.420high school they would do a surgery to if the if the girl was having a lot of pain for for during
01:11:44.300their period to diagnose endometriosis early um it was just a normal thing for them to do and if it
01:11:50.220was if they said they um did have it then they would you know kind of hurry that process of
01:11:56.220having kids along um so it's kind of they they treat it differently now they don't test for it
01:12:00.620at all until you're showing symptoms um these days because there's no treatment besides pregnancy but
01:12:07.500i don't think doctors these days or the medical system is looking at pregnancy as a treatment
01:12:11.900anymore because I think well I know for a fact that that doctors are looking at pregnancy as
01:12:18.640kind of like something that a woman could either choose to do or not choose to do which is which
01:12:24.400is the correct but I'm just saying for women who want to have kids they should be encouraging them
01:12:28.580to get pregnant but that's just is it a tough test like to do like it's a surgery so they have
01:12:34.740do like a laparoscopic surgery okay they go in and they they harvest a biopsy or they
01:12:41.140go in and look around with the scope so it is a surgery it is hard to test for
01:12:45.620um there's no other test for it oh okay because i don't know what else he would do it's not like
01:12:51.140girls in their early 20s are going to want to get a surgery you know what i mean well it's it's a
01:12:56.900very minor surgery so i mean i think if my kids are i have two girls so if they're having like
01:13:03.300major issues with their periods i'll probably encourage them to take a look because my wife has
01:13:09.780it you know oh yeah you know so yeah but i can see where where you know a normal healthy woman
01:13:16.180would not want to have surgery that's normal yeah well thanks for calling in that was just really
01:13:22.420informative i learned a lot did you yeah we we are faced with an issue though like we have two
01:13:27.860embryos left the last two the last two um uh c-sections were pretty traumatic the um so we
01:13:34.740have to figure out what we're going to do with these embryos my wife is you know she's a soldier
01:13:38.980she wants to uh to try to have them both um but i'm just really scared because it's like i don't
01:13:45.060want her to i don't want her to die to try to have these two embryos you know during yeah during a
01:13:50.180c-section but um it is a it is very expensive it's about a thousand dollars to store them per year
01:13:56.580um and then there are the only the three options so we you know we're kind of and we we look at it
01:14:04.300as those embryos are ours like the ones that didn't make it like broke our heart you know
01:14:08.480those are our potential children and uh so i think we come from it from that perspective where it's
01:14:14.860like we we need to figure this out and uh it is it is a big problem though the the that's why i
01:14:22.280think this conversation is really important because i don't think i think a lot of people
01:14:26.380they don't think of it like that and that's pretty troubling what are all these embryos just doing
01:14:30.480they're chilling do you think the technology is going to evolve so women can regularly have kids
01:14:37.180in their 40s do you see that happening yeah definitely really so you think you think it's
01:14:43.460going to get better interesting okay i don't think it's going to get better i just think it's
01:14:48.260they're they're well they're going to i don't think it's a good thing but i think they're going
01:14:52.440to they're going to kind of um perfect this process yeah but you can't fight biology though
01:15:00.680you really can't well most of infertility is due to age so if they can get these eggs frozen and
01:15:07.240get a ton of them frozen and then decide to unf like that's kind of what the rich people do um
01:15:13.960and then they can go ahead and put those embryos together in the lab as they meet you know people
01:15:19.400they want to have kids with later on and if that's not until 40 i mean a uterus is viable and it's a
01:15:25.480healthy organ so into their 40s it could remain that way if you know uh the a the egg factor i
01:15:33.720think is the main part of fertility issues for women past 35. really huh not not the like healthy
01:15:42.040so i saw an article on this website it was some feminist website saying that
01:15:48.520you should get your daughter's egg freezing for a graduation call
01:15:53.160undergrad graduation present i couldn't believe it well i couldn't believe it i don't know doug
01:15:58.660mpa the there's so much money like that they want women to think we're going to be young forever so
01:16:06.480like the guy that figures out how to get women pregnant in their 40s is going to make a billion
01:16:11.380dollars i agree like yeah so like that's the question i'm not saying like i i just i wonder
01:16:18.680in my lifetime how common it's going to be that's kind of my question yeah well i mean it became a
01:16:26.080ivf became a political issue uh this last presidential race i don't know if you saw any of
01:16:32.040that um but it's becoming something that i think politicians are realizing is something that
01:16:38.600people are really wanting to yeah because everyone kind of bent the knee to it everybody did
01:16:44.320yeah yeah and uh both pro-life side and the pro-choice side and i think um the more that
01:16:51.580they politicize it i actually wrote a paper about this um the more that they politicize it they that
01:16:56.720uh you know the more the lobbyists will get involved the more the insurance companies will
01:17:02.640involved if it becomes covered by insurance it already is it already is so it's not it's not
01:17:09.760it's not widespread covered by insurance but it is sometimes partially covered by insurance
01:17:15.840i saw an article where um law firms and then medical uh uh doctors offices and uh medical
01:17:26.800networks are offering female doctors and lawyers ivf and egg storage in their insurance plans
01:17:33.200to keep them from having kids until later because most of the time when they have a kid they're
01:17:38.320going to leave the profession or only go to part-time right yeah to keep that talent in the
01:17:43.120talent pool i can see that yeah that makes sense someone said hallie berry had her second child at
01:17:48.16047 no ivf do you believe that yeah that's it you guys gotta campbell that's like the that's like
01:17:56.960the women wait wait pearl it might be iui which is um instead of putting the the embryo in there
01:18:06.080with the catheter they put the egg in there with the catheter and then they put the the sauce in
01:18:11.760after that this is awesome so they it's just kind of a workaround naomi campo had a kid at 52
01:18:19.920she kept her eggs and then she got you know she's ivf and had a surrogate carry the child
01:18:25.280but she's a mother at 52. and then the brat the rapper her and her wife uh they they took her
01:18:35.040wife's eggs out because she was 40 and the brat was 47 so they took the wife's eggs out but she
01:18:43.040had a bunch of she had a bunch of blood clots and complications from the egg retrieval process that
01:18:47.200they recommend that she not carry the child so they got the egg fertilized and then the brat
01:18:53.360the rapper carried the child and gave birth to the child
01:18:57.280what a time insane well thanks for calling in andrew i think we got to move on to the next
01:19:05.120caller but you've been really informative so i really appreciate you calling in yeah thank you
01:19:09.240so much yeah anytime great topic thank you yeah call in anytime okay thank you um you can who is
01:19:17.080next you can put in uh okay we got trump quest
01:19:30.140some lady had a natural baby at 60. wow did he get on or no
01:19:44.040trump quest are you there okay we can just go to the next one then
01:19:49.100if they both get on though we'll just tell them to wait
01:19:51.920hi carlos how's it going lady had a oh hi uh make sure you mute me in the background
01:20:01.240about to do that okay there you go so hi so do you have an experience with ivf or someone that you
01:20:09.800know i don't but i'm really interested in it um i watch youtubers that you know talk about it
01:20:17.460there's a couple actually that's popular for that um i don't know if i should talk about other
01:20:22.960youtubers but um yeah like so what i uh the issue that i wanted to talk about was um so humans for
01:20:32.760a long time we had like this evolutionary pressure that helped us you know get to where we are right
01:20:37.980now right we're intelligent we're healthy but right around the industrial revolution
01:20:42.720there was this problem where we have so much abundance of resources and medicine that
01:20:48.180these evolutionary pressures went away so for the future of humanity you know i don't think
01:20:55.460we're going to run out of resources anytime soon and i do think that ivf is going to be
01:20:59.820you know as the technology gets better it's going to be in my in my mind it's like the only way that
01:21:06.040we can keep evolving because we don't have these difficult environments anymore you know um we have
01:21:12.980plenty of food and yeah that's basically that's pretty much the main point i don't know if you
01:21:17.480have any opinion about that i do so if we have plenty of food and resources um then i think that
01:21:25.340it would be better for women to just have children younger because the yeah but you know you know
01:21:31.240you know we're not going to do that like but i'm just saying rather than pushing this ivf stuff
01:21:37.080if there's so much abundance of resources well then i don't know why women feel the need to have
01:21:41.860to you know pay a hundred thousand dollars for a liberal arts degree to get a job making thirty
01:21:47.720five thousand dollars a year when they can just have a kid because they don't they don't they
01:21:51.800don't want to spend their youth on a man like it's like it's either it's either we force women
01:21:56.880to be mothers or we give them choice you know it's like because i i think that in my opinion
01:22:03.560is kind of what it comes down to is like are we do we want to force them is that even possible
01:22:09.280today and by having kids younger i mean like early 20s mid 20s guys get your heads out of
01:22:17.140the gutter come on now no i know i know what you meant but i just yeah i'm just i'm looking around
01:22:21.880and i don't see that happening do you know what i mean like i don't think the college girls
01:22:25.880tomorrow are gonna say yeah i want to be a mom they want to go party in miami on a boat with
01:22:31.460drake or something so because your answer is carlos are you pretty much expecting to be in
01:22:38.380your 30s or 40s and meet a girl in her 30s and 40s and say i want to do ivf is that pretty much
01:22:43.560where you see your the outcome if i have the money i would do it it's just that it's it's
01:22:50.860pretty expensive and you want to get a good doctor too but um yeah like I think um like like I said
01:22:56.860some of these people that I follow you know with all of these uh you know like uh problems that we
01:23:04.180have in society and all of these carcinogenic um and all these other weird diseases that you know
01:23:09.740come just from the environment um yeah like I just think that I really don't see a future where
01:23:17.440we're not doing that and i think uh i think something about i heard something about the
01:23:22.280trump administration making it easier more accessible um and i guess one last point regarding
01:23:28.460that is um yeah like i like i just i guess how else are we going to you know evolve right it's
01:23:40.580like what's going to happen if if the technology gets to the point where the children of people who
01:23:45.960you know can edit the genes of their kids to be very healthy and intelligent are out competing
01:23:52.580the ones that are natural right um i think you're gonna have a like a very large demand
01:23:59.140for ivf and and i can i and i i take it that um the main sort of uh reason why people do it now
01:24:08.880is just to like freeze their eggs right so they can basically postpone being a responsible adult
01:24:14.900and a parent um but yeah like i just i i just strongly believe that that's like the future you
01:24:21.540know for for humanity well i'm just gonna have one other thing so remember the rich people are
01:24:26.820having kids maybe they're putting off kids by head and having ivf the middle class aren't the
01:24:33.300are the ones not having children but poor people are going to keep having kids though
01:24:37.700right they're going to keep having kids so there's that too
01:24:42.020yeah well do you think that um like if it was accessible to the middle class um and you know
01:24:52.820like i guess that's the strong selling point is it's like oh do you want to have healthy kids that
01:24:57.040are going to grow up to be engineers and doctors um like you know if you had that i think it's i
01:25:03.540think it's going to be more accessible i don't see a world where i kind of agree with you i don't see
01:25:08.420a world where this doesn't happen yeah like i don't i think there's too much money in it i just
01:25:14.260don't see it i my question is how much can they really delay fertility without there being major
01:25:20.620issues but imagine in 20 years if women that are 45 and 50 are regularly having children like oh
01:25:28.780god well their first kid you know what i mean my grandma was around 45 when she had her ninth kid
01:25:36.040you know but it's gonna be kind of crazy to watch like
01:25:39.660first time and i think my mom was like 42 or something but again it was like her sixth kid
01:25:46.460right so you know okay well thanks for calling in carlos it was an interesting point feel free
01:25:53.880to call back anytime but i think we got to move on to the next caller sounds good have a good one
01:27:40.520one thing i would like to add to the last caller is when they say uh this is like imagine having
01:27:49.420kids at 40 first of all women are not built like that uh their body they you know this is biology
01:27:56.420this is uh human life it declines and cannot withstand all the nine month course of pregnancy
01:28:03.400right through the you know so they'll have so first of all the eggs will go in they might get
01:28:08.740pregnant, but it'll be a miscarriage is what you're saying. It will because helping them
01:28:15.380understand there are two parts of pregnancy. First is placenta coming from the man. And then
01:28:20.540there is the uterus from the woman. So if placenta is good, if the guy is young, his health is good.
01:28:26.360But if the uterus where the whole thing is going to happen for nine months is not in a position to
01:28:32.080hold the growth and the hormones and changing all that, that's not going to happen. There's
01:28:38.000not nothing going to happen. And it will be a miscarriage. It will be not only physical damage,
01:28:41.440but also, you know, mental damage, depression, anxiety, you know, women on some sort of drugs
01:28:47.100or whatsoever. But at the same time, what we are pushing toward is delaying kids. It's a problem,
01:28:53.400not only for the women, but also for the men. So if you're in your post 30s or close to 40s,
01:28:58.960it will be difficult for you to impregnate somebody because your sperm is not that agile.
01:29:03.840It's not going to be, you know, that fertilizing or that, you know, strengthen that it will impregnate an egg in an IVF situation.
01:29:13.640First of all, IVF is an artificial environment.
01:29:18.360Slight changes, one or two nutrients going up and down, the whole process can't happen.
01:29:23.960If you have 10 eggs with IVF, you can impregnate at least three.
01:29:27.260and there is a chances of about 20 to 30 percent of them to you know go to the full pregnancy
01:29:34.960and even though in most cases first three months is a critical time so within the first three
01:29:40.700months the pregnancy goes away you there's very few chances I've been around people that done
01:29:46.280that process they were blessed they had money everything but it's a big toll on the woman's
01:29:52.740it takes a lot of you know experimentation going on back and forth so making it available to middle
01:30:00.380class or poor people it's also fugazi that people are talking about and I don't think so it's coming
01:30:06.060any forward pretty soon people will realize that we have to go back to the same thing which we used
01:30:10.960to do you know getting married in early ages being a responsible you know person and repopulate the
01:30:18.140Do you really see that happening? Because I don't see any trend or data anywhere that that's going to happen. The only investments I see is into technology. I'm not saying what I want to happen, but I look at the trends. I'm like, I don't see it going any other way. But I'm open to being proven wrong, so feel free.
01:30:39.580No, no. It's not like that. I would say data is one indicator. But on the other side, when things go wrong, people tend to go with the processes which work. That's how humans evolve. And when they see something is not working out, they'll go to something that used to work out.
01:30:58.880And again, I would say this is natural selection. So if somebody thinks they're so smart and they're going to dodge the whole nature cycle, eventually what's going to happen is nature is going to catch up with them and they will be obsolete. Their gene will be out of gene pool. And some poor guy with 11 kids or 10 kids or five kids is going to replace that gene pool. And what are you going to do about it?
01:31:21.440Do you know what, though? I think the problem is social media. It doesn't even matter if the technology works. Women just have to believe that it works. Does that make sense? I think that's the caveat. Go ahead.
01:31:37.920I understand. Even though living in a third world country, I'm looking at the present situation out there. I'm a kind of a social person. I like to go out, sit with people, talk about these things. Because let me tell you guys, all the viewers that are watching from Europe or America or something like that, anything you guys discuss eventually get discussed among us as well in the third world.
01:32:01.100Because you guys are, you know, now being the first world nation, you guys are the trendsetters, right?
01:32:06.540So when you bring something in discussion, that also gets discussed among us.
01:32:12.000So we see there are a few problems with the Western way of thinking.
01:32:15.820And eventually you guys are going to realize yourself as well.
01:32:27.600first of all the feminism uh third wave women don't think they they should get married i'm in
01:32:32.800a muslim country where so you agree the trends are going the same way i was about to ask i've
01:32:38.720always wanted to get a person how does the feminism work in a predominantly in a muslim society how
01:32:45.440does that work well i would like to add one thing uh if you some of the people that understand the
01:32:52.640religion out there, especially Muslim religion, feminism is not something which should have
01:32:58.680affected us because the way Islam talks about women, except the Fox News and ABC, whatever
01:33:07.520news channels you guys are watching there, women already have a lot of rights, which
01:33:13.340in post-1900 women in America and Europe got when we had those rights in our culture since
01:33:20.860the beginning. So if we take the litmus test of modern so-called Islamic countries, that's not
01:33:28.140a justice with the religion, to be very honest with you. So Muslims are very immune to this thing
01:33:34.300that it's not going to affect us because we hear women don't like to go out work.
01:33:40.080Muslim women, they think that the best thing they can have is a good husband that takes care of them.
01:33:43.920Okay. But now when you get shamed for choosing the motherhood, it eventually catches up. So
01:33:52.920young women that are going to universities that are watching YouTube and all the Netflix and all
01:33:59.800that stuff. So they think that they know something better. And now I'm married. I see people around
01:34:06.860me that are not getting married. They wish traditional ways, but the way they act is like
01:34:13.180modern and all that so now there is a big big lag which which women think that it's their own fault
01:34:22.620i have one more question so we have christian feminism in the west especially in the united
01:34:27.900states where women the in church ended up you've probably seen stories but is there that going on
01:34:36.140in pakistan was a christian kind of islam i'm sorry a feminist kind of islam developing
01:34:41.820Yeah. Women wish they should bring something where they can demean men. But the thing is, our society is mostly predominantly patriarchal because men do most of the work. In Third World Nation, you cannot afford to be a feminist because life is not that easy.
01:34:59.760uh when you go out uh you know you don't get to be i would say uh being in an air conditioning
01:35:08.420transport going to the work and you have like privileges and all that
01:35:12.800this is like a cutthroat society where everybody's trying to make their living
01:35:17.020so they're trying to become that but when they go out when they face the music in in the real
01:35:24.400society they understand the better ways to be sit at home and or maybe you know do something like
01:35:29.580business-wise and have a husband that takes care of them right okay thank you thank you for calling
01:35:35.660in i have to move on to the next caller it was it was pleasant thank you so much for having me and
01:35:41.180i really appreciate you guys keep discussing such things that really you know i would say make it
01:35:45.340make a difference thank you so much thank you um jonathan thank you pearl do you have anything to add
01:35:51.420you're on mute yeah you're muted if you're on mute
01:35:58.120now can you hear yeah i can hear you hello welcome to the show
01:36:02.580oh welcome it's my first time on the show i've been watching you for a long time now so
01:36:08.700i like this thing well i'm from nicaragua okay and based on this theme that you're having tonight
01:36:16.580i've been listening very carefully but i don't really see lots of that problem on here
01:36:23.720you know women saving the eggs and stuff like that you see you got very strong women down here
01:36:30.580you do see that happening there no oh you don't you don't see that happening in nicaragua
01:36:37.260yeah it's not really no got a lot of strong women around here and most of them are
01:36:45.480still 40 at their party even 15 so so when you see stories like this whole ivf thing or women
01:36:54.640you know doing ivf by themselves what do you think at first it's strange to me you know i would
01:37:03.220imagine so because it's like i don't know sometimes sometimes i listen to pearl team and
01:37:12.260like you know some of those theme like feminist things and stuff like that you know some of them
01:37:19.540we do have but really like this kind you know let's go back to finance people don't even have
01:37:27.140money for that so you know and um they're very percentage is very low in um barring women so
01:37:37.220So you've got a lot of people who, even though we have kids like 15, 16 years having a baby,
01:38:02.440yeah well thank you for so much for sharing your experience it's always cool and we have people
01:38:08.820from other countries call in um i think we got to move on to the next caller but thank you so much
01:38:14.300um put in matt next and i think that's gonna be the last caller hey matt how's it going oh not bad
01:38:27.580oh sorry you're okay um so what are your thoughts on the topic to be honest with you i'm okay with
01:38:36.840it my women women are so screwed all right our collapse society is like eminent so all you guys
01:38:47.260out there that have all kinds of resources that you kind of want to hand off to a son or something
01:38:51.540like that you might as well just take advantage of that technology and save yourself like go ahead
01:38:58.740at this at this point like i mentioned in the youtube chat you know there's enough there's
01:39:03.540research going on there about external gestation you know and steve mentioned there too you got
01:39:08.980crisper technology so you might as well create a synthetic human there with no gender and hope for
01:39:14.900the best i guess that's what i think about it so so would you would you do it if you were if you
01:39:22.820had a wife or a girlfriend that had fertility issues or would you dump her and find someone
01:39:27.780younger where would you go like i well to be honest i wouldn't mind having somebody younger
01:39:33.940but the problem is i ain't really attractive very much in my demographic of the world unfortunately
01:39:39.860where are you at yeah i'm in your i'm in winnipeg actually and then i'm kind of heading
01:39:46.740getting ready to move further north there into tulon manitoba what kind of women do they have
01:39:52.020like like lumberjack woman or well you know if you like if you like toothless toothless indians
01:39:59.300and you know and they say that like there's these trad women in the country that are just like
01:40:05.700waiting to like make bread do they not exist no while waiting to tap trees for maple syrup right
01:40:12.020yeah are they there like the kind of like the kind of women out here are not bad but they're just
01:40:18.820okay manitoba is like this weird zombified province okay it's like okay you know if the
01:40:28.500universities i go to you think that there's going to be dorm rooms of lots of you know you
01:40:33.540you see all you know you go into say what do you call it um like ucla whatever it is and you've got
01:40:39.540the protests we're gonna snop out all those christians and we want uh anti-abortion and
01:40:45.540pro-abortion and you got all these people that are ready to kill each other so you got a little
01:40:49.860bit here in manitoba they're like in the in the university of manitoba for instance and everybody's
01:40:54.580like yeah we we don't like abortion and everybody's just like yeah you know whatever there's there's
01:41:01.220no there's no frat houses here there's no there's no uh so people don't people don't hook up they're
01:41:07.860not like doing it no it's just like it just displaces you go to school you get education
01:41:11.860you get the out you go to work you get your work you get your money and you get the out
01:41:16.420and most of the nightclubs are well there's a couple of clubs here in winnipeg but they're
01:41:21.620just kind of around there's like three of them and there's nothing a whole hell of a lot of
01:41:25.460of them there probably is a lot of hookup culture but it's just so scarce and empty and zombified
01:41:32.980i'm like these women are not celibate they're doing somebody no they are you're absolutely
01:41:38.420right i'm just saying that winnipeg manitoba is a place of just zombified people like i don't know
01:41:46.580it's for the men too it's it's it's a very weird place everybody's all fluoride damage or something
01:41:52.900around here like it just like it just they're like you i have to wonder if they're even human
01:41:57.860beings you go if i go into north dakota just south of the border and you start noticing a
01:42:02.580radical change in culture but as soon as you get across as soon as you cross over the canada border
01:42:07.300northern manitoba everything is just zombie so you just how old are you i'm 40 years old
01:42:15.060so if you met a 40 year old woman and she said let's give it a go with ivf you're down
01:42:19.220well i said there you know might as well just grow it in a maturation chamber
01:42:25.060but you're you're in yeah it's just like you might as well like i need i like i'm an only child okay
01:42:31.780i got no brothers sisters i got thousands of dollars for the resources where are they going
01:42:35.860to go you know you might as well so okay do you know anybody that's done it personally
01:42:44.020no actually no you don't i don't think i've never even seen the procedure available anywhere in this
01:42:48.740part of the country i'm pretty sure it might be somewhere but i've just never heard of it even for
01:42:53.380being offered in this area so when you meet your like maple syrup queen up there you can you have
01:42:59.940to you'll fly her to like you'll fly you'll fly her to to wherever whatever the big cities are
01:43:10.720in canada i don't even know probably have to fly her to texas or something or la or california
01:43:17.640where they screw everything right up maybe we'll get a fertility doctor on the network
01:43:24.200you can't beat them join them do you know what i mean well absolutely like there's all kinds
01:43:29.240of things that can be done like for god's sakes you know there might even i've come across uh
01:43:34.120some really interesting research and uh actually believe not in electromagnetics this is very
01:43:39.400advanced electromagnetics i bet you the other guy that from pakistan would love i'd love to
01:43:44.040have a conversation with them okay that there may actually be possible to like for instance a 20
01:43:51.480year old woman if you were to grab a bunch of her eggs that you could actually almost digitize the
01:43:57.400complete uh genome section into a computer and then actually put it back so you can see if the
01:44:03.720kids you can see if the kid's gonna be ugly or not well hold on a minute it might be possible to
01:44:10.920digitally change dna yeah like it might actually be possible like to reach into you pearl scoop
01:44:17.080out a bunch of of your ovaries or eggs or whatever is your ovaries i said and re-stripe them like uh
01:44:23.960like a vhs cassette hey i said a million a million dollars i'll sell one i wonder if they're gonna
01:44:30.360have a racket where they'll they'll pay 20 to 25 year old women for their eggs for people to use
01:44:38.920i bet no they do they do it already that's the thing yeah that's totally a thing yeah okay i
01:44:45.320didn't know that well now now with the like with the ability like the dna inside human beings
01:44:50.840believe it or not has all kinds of information and it's really fascinating so it's totally possible
01:44:56.920let's just say pearl 90 years from not 90 years now it's too far let's just say 40 50 years from
01:45:03.560now your mother's walking around with a cane she's got gray hair she's lost all her teeth
01:45:08.920I came across Russian research, which I kind of lost during a police raid, but it was very, very in-depth, about a woman in their 90s growing back her teeth by taking light from one of their daughters.
01:45:25.440So laser light would shine on the gums and then come back out through a quartz fiber back to another woman, to her mother, and shine that light onto the damaged section of the mouth and able to actually regrow the tooth.
01:45:43.080And part of the reason why is as you age, it's like having a VHS tape or a cassette tape and the tape gets chewed up.
01:45:49.840But if you're able to restructure that genetic sequence, which much of it exists, if you had offspring, there's entirely possible that the immune system can actually rebuild that damaged section of DNA.
01:46:03.760So presumably, isn't that what Assassin's Creed the game is about?
01:46:10.200I'm just playing on this way. They have a thing with Assassin's Creed. That's kind of where you can tell someone's history through their DNA. I was making a joke.
01:46:17.800Well, actually, you know what? You might there might be something to that, unfortunately, which is I won't get into it now, because if you want to know more, I can give you more of my awful airfare.
01:46:26.460But I've seen two stories where the the the daughter had something go wrong with her uterus where she couldn't carry a child.
01:46:36.560So her husband and the daughter had the mother carry their child.
01:46:42.060So the mother gave birth to the grandchild.
01:46:45.160then i saw a story where the son was infertile so the father they used the father's sperm to
01:46:55.680impregnate his wife the dad didn't sleep with the wife they used insemination so the father
01:47:01.720used his sperm to impregnate the wife and they had a kid so they're they're raising
01:47:07.380his brother as their grandchild it makes perfect sense like you have to understand
01:47:14.920you can do this all with computers now like analog to digital conversion technology and
01:47:19.320instrumentation is so advanced now that there is probably there is more than enough computing power
01:47:25.640to be able to digitize enough of the genome spectrum um at you know at high bid rates
01:47:32.200to be able to take it off of uh say a sperm sample and re-stripe it onto another sperm sample like
01:47:38.600there is more than enough technology to do that now i want to spread i want to spread i want to
01:47:44.120spread my eggs you know guys can spread their seeds well you know that well if you've done
01:47:51.640enough computer version technology it might actually be possible why not i know it's funny
01:47:56.280but it might actually be possible now hey that's so crazy thanks um yeah go ahead no no no i was
01:48:05.400gonna say thank you for calling in matt he he put in the chat what's the show about i'm calling in
01:48:10.120so i knew he was going to come in through always good calling matt thank you for calling in bro
01:48:14.260thanks matt calling anytime thank you very much bye-bye bye um i think there was one super chat
01:48:21.940i didn't read it was let me go up let me go back um also thank you to everyone in the audacity chat
01:48:32.320we love you out here doug mpa isn't the audacity chat awesome yeah the youtube chat the audacity
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01:48:44.620appreciate it thank you for all the donations and uh if we ever do a show about ivf again pearl
01:48:49.580there's a guy there's a british guy who met this single he came to the united states and moved to
01:48:55.020california and he met this single mom of three they got married but he they wanted to have a child
01:49:02.140but she was in her late 30s and he robbed banks to come up with money for they would do seven
01:49:08.780rounds of IVF to have their child he robbed banks to pay the money back and he said he got caught
01:49:15.740and had to go to prison yeah he sold like eighty thousand dollars to try to pay out because they
01:49:21.320went over a hundred thousand dollars in IVF debt he robbed banks he got thrown in jail and then
01:49:26.540got deported I would just take that Al Anna says great show tonight the topic commentary and guests
01:49:32.600were very interesting um captain says I think a lot of autism comes from ultrasound scans this
01:49:38.720This is because the technology was designed as a weapon.