00:53:22.820Number 15. A simple question turns into a cry-a-thon. I just wanted to know where you were
00:53:30.520last night, and you're going crazy like you were just watching Terms of Endearment. What the hell?
00:53:35.800These emotional swings are designed to make you feel guilty so you won't ask any more probing
00:53:42.620questions. So once the tears flow, you're not getting an answer, but those tears actually
00:53:50.860are an answer. She fucked up. She won't admit it. And if you keep pressing, well, that leads us
00:53:57.080right into number 16. She will attempt to flip that script using emotion and challenge your
00:54:03.380inquiries. Don't you trust me? If our relationship doesn't have trust, we don't have anything.
00:54:10.460Okay. Pack your shit. Space Ghost is on. Yeah. Do you know what? This is a manipulation tact.
00:54:16.860Just in general, I realized people that get angry, like when you're younger and people get angry when you ask them a question, you're like, oh, did I do something wrong?
00:54:24.600Because in your head, you wouldn't get angry.
00:54:27.280Like you would only get that angry if someone like did something really offensive.
01:09:37.420you know so there's there's there's a a field of study where they they they they tell you there's
01:09:44.520this micro indicators of when people are lying i gotta be honest i've never bought into that
01:09:49.940i i've always just assumed that everyone's lying to me all the time and in my role as an attorney
01:09:55.000my job is to just catch them out in the lie right if i have evidence to the contrary i catch them
01:10:00.220out i trip them up i make them contradict themselves but i'm always assuming everybody's
01:10:04.740lying. And if I haven't exposed the lie, it's simply because there was some incapability on
01:10:09.780my part. I didn't have the tools I needed to expose the lie. It was still a lie. They weren't
01:10:13.820telling the truth. I just didn't have what I needed to expose it. Yeah. I mean, the older I
01:10:19.340got, I used to think that liars were very complicated people, like people that pathologically
01:10:24.760lied or whatever. Right. Like they're special. That's the unusual case, right?
01:10:28.880well the older i got the more like i i realized when people lie like it it's usually kind of
01:10:36.900obvious like obviously they're lying like like okay the girl said they didn't hook up the guy
01:10:44.500said they did well um they probably they probably did you know especially when women are talking
01:10:51.720about things having to do with romance or or sexual relations they uh they're always gonna lie
01:10:57.360yeah because it's a weird dynamic for women right evolutionarily for guys you know you bust a nut
01:11:03.420with some chickens who cares but for a woman traditionally right before modern contraceptives
01:11:08.780you had sex with a guy you could get pregnant there were huge stakes involved you could have
01:11:13.080a child you could have a child you need to raise for 20 years and like that guy's long gone so the
01:11:18.040stakes are very different for men and women when it comes to sex now we both have sexual desires
01:11:22.420both genders of course um but women have to they have to at least pretend that they recognize that
01:11:29.380the stakes are higher right so they have to do this no no no thing no no i'm too good i'm too
01:11:33.860pure i can't i'm not that kind of girl right we've all we've all met they're all that kind of girl
01:11:40.740for the right guy they're all that kind of girl yeah it's just not
01:11:43.780but but but but they have to put up this kind of facade and and for for good evolutionary biology
01:11:53.460reasons again i'm not saying this makes women bad it's just this is what we should expect them to be
01:11:58.340like but in the modern era where you've taken away all the risk of pregnancy and you've given them
01:12:04.260nothing but the unfettered liberty to do whatever everything whatever they want we've removed all
01:12:08.980the guardrails off of women's sexuality well then we wonder why there's hoflation i mean
01:12:15.780that's exactly why it is you can't you can't again not i guess i have to say right not all
01:12:21.140women not all women yeah but it's very common among the the the more tender gender um that uh
01:12:30.900if they don't have guardrails they they run completely amok they're like a a machine without
01:12:36.260a driver and uh and you get the chaos we're experiencing today when it comes to affairs
01:12:43.060do you find that women always get caught eventually and men no no okay you don't find that
01:12:51.060no do you know any people like like women that are still married that have had affairs
01:12:56.180like on and off for a long period of time or do they eventually leave
01:12:59.940whether or not the woman leaves is a function of the value she places on whoever her her main dude
01:13:08.380is okay if he's a good enough father he makes a good enough income but he doesn't maybe do it for
01:13:14.340her in bed she'll cheat on him their whole marriage for decades but she'll never leave him
01:13:19.120because he does most of this stuff fine she just she these women they'll find jobs where they have
01:13:24.840to travel a lot for work they have to go to conference i've i've known these women i've
01:13:29.060head jobs like that where i had to travel a lot for work go to conferences you see the same women
01:13:33.320at every conference and you know you can hook up and she knows you're not trying to date her you're
01:13:38.240not trying to establish some kind of relationship with her you're gonna bang during the conference
01:13:42.620and then she goes back to her husband and has christmas and thanksgiving and all that kind of
01:13:46.520stuff and everybody's happy uh but they'll do that for decades there's no reason for them to get
01:13:51.300caught if they don't want to unless they're exceptionally stupid right or unless they want
01:13:55.780to get caught sometimes they want to get caught so if they decide the man they're with is not
01:14:00.580worth keeping yeah then they'll burn him to the ground he'll come home and find her in bed banging
01:14:05.120a dude so you've known women that have like had affairs on and off for like 20 years and they're
01:14:10.660still married oh yeah yeah wow i always figured they'd get caught eventually no no i mean they
01:14:18.160they just arrange it so they have an excuse to be away from home and they know there'll be men
01:14:22.680there'll be men there i mean out of state like who who are you gonna really know yeah knows your
01:14:28.580husband and and they'll set up kind of a you know a pool of guys especially you know if you're
01:14:36.720working and you're going to conferences for your industry you it's the same people going all the
01:14:41.820time so you set up like a stable of guys that you know you can hook up with i'm not going to cause
01:14:46.460you trouble they're married too yeah i know a side dude guy that's like his favorite thing he
01:14:52.240loves married women he says the sex better when they're not supposed to have it for a lot of
01:14:57.540women it's hotter right and and there's no complications for him he doesn't want to
01:15:03.540complicate her life she doesn't want her life complicated so it's very efficient do you think
01:15:10.180men always get caught eventually or would you also say no men tend to be sloppier about it
01:15:17.820especially the men who can cheat because most men can't cheat right let's face it but most men
01:15:23.240can't pull girls so um the guys who can cheat uh if if they have a woman at home mostly they have
01:15:31.840a degree of confidence that woman she will not be inclined to just leave him he's providing
01:15:38.160resources that she wants she'll get mad she'll threaten uh he'll get the cold shoulder for a
01:15:44.540while but she's not leaving all that all that money and stuff behind for the guys who can
01:15:49.860actually cheat if they have resources it's not happening um you know it's the mid-tier guys
01:15:56.380that get fucked the mid-tier guys who don't have a ton of resources who just got lucky one time and
01:16:02.120had an affair but normally can't pull women their wives and dump them because they can take half the
01:16:07.500money they can take the kids in the house and stuff like that i was thinking about when you're
01:16:11.680living in a certain lifestyle, a high lifestyle, smart women living a high lifestyle, they know
01:16:18.560they lose most of that in the divorce. They're rich for a short period of time,
01:16:24.180but they don't stay rich. They've seen it happen to their friends. So the chicks in the wealthy
01:16:29.840relationship, marriage is really a luxury item of the wealthy. It's not the wealthy who get
01:16:36.100divorced it's the mid-tier and lower tier partnerships that get divorced i was thinking
01:16:41.720about how if you do catch a guy cheating if he's cheating with ugly ugly bitches i think it makes
01:16:47.980it worse because you're like yeah yeah yeah this is the best he can do you're like you're cheating
01:16:53.720on me with a four that's overweight i was thinking but you don't want her to be hotter than you
01:16:59.320either like if she's hotter than you then like obviously that's going to kill your ego i think
01:17:03.700it's like one point lower but it's just understandable he was on a trip you could still respect him
01:17:13.560right but if it's too low you're like what is wrong with you yeah nobody respects a guy banging
01:17:21.460ugly chicks i'm sorry yeah it's like guys don't respect that dude either you're like that doesn't
01:17:26.760even count yeah okay well i was just curious your thoughts on women liars i was i was arguing with
01:17:35.120this with someone the other day i'm like we can't be that good of liars there's no way i think men
01:17:41.220on just some level just want to believe the lie or they don't care enough they're too busy like
01:17:46.460working to look into her cheating you know where the men like the women have the time you know
01:17:52.840yeah and i mean it depends it depends on the lie right so i mean we are working a lot i i mean i
01:17:59.920work all the time and and we don't want to have to deal with the law as long as we're getting what
01:18:05.100we want to get out of the relationship mostly sex of course um we're gonna get a little you know
01:18:10.600did you spend this much money on this thing i mean who gives a shit really as long as we're getting
01:18:15.000laid who gives a shit but if the woman's actually caught cheating on a dude that gets a lot more
01:18:20.680complicated because then the guy's ego comes into play right why is she with that dude instead of
01:18:24.540with me it's different when a man cheats than when a woman cheats when a man cheats he's just he's
01:18:29.700just you know busting a nut and when when a woman cheats there's normally normally women don't bang
01:18:36.000like dudes bang they they there's some kind of emotional connection there and that's that's a
01:18:40.700profoundly different animal than than when guys cheat i mean i've heard you talk about it's
01:18:45.700definitely true. Like, you know, guys will bang a chick. I've been with chicks. I never knew their
01:18:51.600name. I never cared to know their name. You know, I never thought about them again a second in my
01:18:57.040life. Guys will say, right, well, she was better than a, she was better than a sock, right? It's
01:19:02.620just like, oh my God, it's that, it's that dehumanizing. But of course, women, she wasn't,
01:19:08.420she wasn't great, right? I mean, she, she, she went into that.
01:19:11.960what kind of guys um just your experience at like conferences and that kind of thing what
01:19:17.160kind of guys do women typically um pick to cheat with uh like is it usually just better looking
01:19:22.960guys it's the usual things you know tall good looking uh yeah uh vince's confidence you know
01:19:32.640and i guess i call it an alpha kind of guy but which sounds cliche but i think everyone knows
01:19:37.960what i'm talking about it's someone who looks like you know when he enters the room he seems
01:19:41.640of being commanded the room and that guy has no trouble getting laid yeah that's why i think it
01:19:46.940pisses men off there's certain jobs where the guys like aren't even that competent but they
01:19:51.480just look competent and they get all these young bitches like um one of the kind of things about
01:19:56.700conferences like industry conferences is they tend to concentrate people of of high ability
01:20:03.460high resources because you don't send the most junior people i mean it depends on the conference
01:20:08.180i guess but the ones i went to you know they're they're all at a certain level right they're all
01:20:12.200at a vp level everyone's kind of in that pool and the women know that the women know all these guys
01:20:18.880are certain echelon so anyone they hook up with is not going to be a deadbeat or they wouldn't be
01:20:23.780there i mean you're staying at thousand dollar a night hotels you know it's these guys have
01:20:29.260resources directly and indirectly or they or they wouldn't be at the conference i never thought of
01:20:34.060that like I didn't that does make sense that they wouldn't send anyone anywhere I mean just imagine
01:20:40.180there was a club that women could go to and every guy in the club was a millionaire oh oh yeah that's
01:20:46.520what a lot of these conferences are like huh so now you're thinking about the conferences
01:20:52.080no I'm like damn so that's why that's why women want to go to conferences okay I guess it's kind
01:20:59.360like CPAC and all that stuff. It's like when Elijah Schaefer came out. I don't know if you
01:21:04.700saw that stuff, but like Sarah. Oh, so crazy. Yeah. But I was like, water is wet. The sky
01:21:09.620is blue. These conservative commentators cannot turn down these young broads.
01:21:16.140They can't. It's very difficult. It's very difficult for men, men to throw away young,
01:21:21.640hot. I'll say women and to be polite. It's hard for men to say no to that when it's thrown at
01:21:28.280them that that frequently i mean i'll be honest i i avoid that by not putting myself in that
01:21:32.780situation um it's just it's bad it's easy to make a mistake and i don't want to make that kind of
01:21:39.220mistake i'm very happily married so i don't want i don't want that kind of complication in my life
01:21:42.980but i've been there and and when these you know young hot attractive women are throwing themselves
01:21:47.660at you it's hard to say no and i i don't know elijah schaefer i think i think he asked me to
01:21:52.600come on a show one time but i wouldn't swear to it i can't remember and i have friends who are
01:21:57.180friends with him uh but but this it makes me laugh we talk about you know well you know how
01:22:03.220can you tell a woman is lying they're all lying just look at these women who go to cpac i mean
01:22:07.980they're going to a conservative political conference and they're acting exactly like
01:22:12.960every industry conference i ever went to every everyone it's like a whole infinity at these
01:22:19.300events everyone's banging everybody and then the women get leave the conference they're like no i'm
01:22:23.660pure well i'm ready to get married now i've noticed i think with religious people the reason
01:22:29.700they always get caught in stuff is because they fixate on it so like i fixate a lot on um
01:22:35.860what do you call it on food like i really don't like fat people but it's because i know i have
01:22:40.860it in me to be 300 pounds like i could totally do it that could totally happen to me because i love
01:22:45.120food um but i don't have it in me to be an alcoholic like i used to be afraid i would be
01:22:50.340an alcoholic because my parents always said it like ran in my family and it wasn't until i was
01:22:55.240like 25 where i was like i don't think i have that in me i don't like alcohol that much right so um
01:23:00.940i think it's like that with like the sex stuff because they're like saying don't have sex don't
01:23:05.640have sex it's because that's all they could think about i don't know if you found that with um like
01:23:12.480law like i don't know like the people that fixate on stuff more they're more likely to be doing it
01:23:17.640i'm just curious if that's been your life experience too well i think it's just kind of
01:23:23.720human nature i mean listen human nature is people want to bang each other and all of
01:23:28.840human existence civilization has been putting guard rails on people banging each other right
01:23:34.200because i mean that's a good way to put it back back in the day everyone would bang everybody
01:23:40.040and there would be babies and no one knew who was what no one was taking care of anything
01:23:44.360And part of things like, you know, religious guardrails, faith guardrails, societal guardrails, guilt guardrails are to put constraints on that.
01:23:53.540So when children are born, there's some kind of ordered way to take care of them.