Pearl - Rachel Wilson goes on Joe Rogan

00:00:01.000 What's going on, my nick?

00:00:07.440 I guess I'm not allowed to say that, am I?

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00:00:30.000 what is up everybody welcome to another episode of pearl daily here 0.99

00:00:59.920 the audacity network today we're doing two things we're doing our history lesson so we have

00:01:06.400 an awesome contributor who's going to come on in a little bit um who is going to give us a history

00:01:13.120 lesson so um last time we talked about slavery so that was kind of cool i love talking about slavery

00:01:22.720 i love talking about i love it i don't know why i think it's because as a white person it's just

00:01:27.600 shoved in our face so much and for the longest time i didn't want to talk about it right

00:01:32.320 i was like no i don't want to talk about that

00:01:37.440 but now i'm like it bucket bucket bucket we're talking about colonization today yeah yeah

00:01:47.840 colonialism you know it's gonna be cool going to be pretty cool

00:01:57.600 we're doing more than that oh wow this is kind of cool anyways um i'll tell you guys unsolicited

00:02:09.560 things about my my life so a lot of people were asking okay nobody asked but i'm gonna tell you

00:02:15.540 anyway i'm doing another cut i know i say this every few months um but i always do a cut and

00:02:23.220 that I maintain for a while because I hate starving myself. And then now I'm in another

00:02:29.060 cut. My sister used to be really fat. She just lost 100 pounds. Isn't that incredible? 0.98

00:02:35.840 And it's all because she told me it was because I bullied her about it.

00:02:39.420 Yeah. Did any of you do that? I'm the most body positive woman out there.

00:02:47.100 No, I don't gain it back. I don't gain it back.

00:02:50.020 I have in the past, but not now, because I do it a lot slower now.

00:03:00.320 I'm trying to, I realized that the key to my next cut is to get really good at cooking meats.

00:03:06.380 And I realized I have to substitute. I feel like every like 10 or like percent body fat,

00:03:13.440 it's just like, there's like a new thing you have to pay attention to. 0.92

00:03:17.520 Like, when I first started, I was drinking, I shit you not, two caramel lattes every day from Starbucks or somewhere similar. 0.94

00:03:29.920 Caramel latte. 0.97

00:03:33.200 That's 40 grams of sugar each and between 250 to 400 calories.

00:03:40.380 That's what I started.

00:03:41.440 A super, you're a 149 super sticker.

00:03:45.360 you really wanted the the minimum payment to get your thing read huh

00:03:50.300 sorry i just messed it just messed it i appreciate it um so my first like thing was i need needed to

00:03:58.320 like i used to get larges too so um

00:04:01.900 okay you didn't have to say i looked like a ghost all right well um i started at large then i went

00:04:10.200 to a medium. Then I went to, um, no syrup, like just a latte. Then I went to coffee with just a

00:04:19.020 little bit of half and half. And so, and now I added soda, but it's zero calorie soda. I saw a

00:04:26.400 jacked guy on Twitter. He said he drinks soda. I've never been a big soda drinker. Right. But

00:04:32.200 I was like, this is zero calories. Coffee's like 50 with my creamer. It's like 40 with my half and

00:04:37.140 half. But anyways, I realized I like, um, and I've been slowly substituting my like processed

00:04:48.240 foods, which are lower calorie, like, um, protein bars, uh, even this, right. And now

00:04:55.940 I'm, I'm, I'm switching my carbs. So I realized again, this jacked guy I follow on Twitter,

00:05:04.060 he said that it's like the type of carbs you're eating and you have to like if you want to lose

00:05:10.840 weight it's got to be um potatoes rice and low calorie bread so I got rid of all my pasta

00:05:18.680 I got rid of all my my bread and I'm trying to keep all my drinks under it's crazy I went from

00:05:26.440 400 calorie drinks, even 500 to now I'm under 50 calories, maybe around 50 and a high calorie

00:05:35.360 drink for me is a hundred now. So, uh, please don't give me your solicited and unsolicited

00:05:42.520 nutrition advice. I just want to tell you what I'm doing. I don't want to hear your opinion

00:05:46.560 because I can't see, um, I can't see your physique. Do you know what I mean? Like I

00:05:56.280 can't, if I can't see your physique, then I don't care. I don't care. The biggest I've, um,

00:06:03.400 you've seen me was in when I went to the casino video. I don't know. I was always, um,

00:06:11.500 so I'm trying to get better at cooking meat and I'm trying to get into the habit of,

00:06:18.200 cause I realized sometimes I want to substitute protein, like a protein bar or like a protein shake.

00:06:24.340 and I'm trying to switch to just meat, like salmon, steak, chicken, and rice or potatoes.

00:06:31.980 So, um, and instead of like coffee in the morning, I don't know, I've noticed,

00:06:38.560 and this is just my observations, that I actually eat less throughout the day.

00:06:43.840 If I eat breakfast, like, I think the reason they used to say, everyone says like you should fast

00:06:49.760 or whatever i don't know when i fast i hate my life and please don't tell me to fast

00:06:57.920 no i'm never gonna get too thin i mean i love food too much i want to get to 19

00:07:02.240 body fat that's my goal i'm between like 21 to 23 ish 24 maybe okay 24 20

00:07:11.360 I don't know, between 22 to 24. Okay. Shut up.

00:07:21.200 Don't fast, but you could do one meal a day. That's worse. Yeah. Okay. Well, 1.00

00:07:25.360 I found that if I actually sit down and eat a full breakfast, like with eggs

00:07:29.580 and like I'm less hungry throughout the day, I don't know.

00:07:35.800 i i also realized the peanut butter has been more calories than i thought

00:07:44.920 but i played basketball today i have a really hard time when i work out i know okay it's like

00:07:51.020 counterintuitive everyone says go to the gym go to the gym to lose weight i found that that like

00:07:57.960 if i work out like a really heavy cardio day like i get so hungry after that i end up like not

00:08:04.540 losing weight. And that's what's most of my volleyball career. And then people be like,

00:08:09.920 don't get too thin. Don't get too thin. It's like, well, I mean, like if I've been fat my

00:08:17.100 whole life, you don't, you don't think like I could easily gain the weight back if I got too

00:08:21.500 thin. Like, can you let me be too thin for five minutes? Can you let me be too thin for five

00:08:27.420 minutes of my life? That's never happened to me before. That's never happened to me in my life.

00:08:33.520 Could you just let it happen? Yeah. Do you know what? Calories don't matter as much as macros.

00:08:53.320 I think calories matter the most. Ozempic. Do you know what? I've come too far to use Ozempic.

00:09:01.660 i've learned too much about nutrition i think if you asked me do you want to use ozempic when i was

00:09:06.860 22 that would have like maybe but i'm 29 and i've just learned i went through all the work

00:09:12.540 learning to cook to be neater but here's the thing i don't really care if you lost 30 kilo

00:09:22.140 i'm so sick of people losing weight if you haven't kept it off for six months or more

00:09:27.580 I don't really care what you have to say oh you said in 2017 but it's the concept right

00:09:34.120 everyone becomes a nutritionist after they starved themselves for three months

00:09:38.080 why don't you try to keep it off for three years yeah

00:09:42.120 yeah

00:09:57.580 yeah, gym. I'm, it's not, I like the gym, right? I go to the gym because I like it. I enjoy it.

00:10:05.440 You know, I wanted to add one more thing. Okay. I was thinking about this.

00:10:10.760 Bitches always say, so I was in the gym, right? I'm in the gym. I'm on the treadmill 1.00

00:10:15.340 and it's like a Saturday. It's like a Saturday morning and there's a 9 30 AM like workout class.

00:10:23.160 and I'm always confused because it's 9 30 to 10 30 so I'm like why is this workout class packed

00:10:29.360 like it's packed like the the gym is like it's so full and I'm like but it turns out there's

00:10:37.400 a billionaire that does this workout class and he's kind of famous sorry um and so but like this 0.97

00:10:46.180 I'm on there on a Saturday the billionaire walks in his bitches I mean I'm not saying they're like 1.00

00:10:50.980 his bitches actually, but like women walk in with him because women love famous men. He's like, 1.00

00:10:56.720 they're like all in shape, um, half naked. There's a billionaire. And then a DJ walks in

00:11:02.500 and I'm like, you know what? Bitches always say, I don't go to the club. I don't go to the club. 1.00

00:11:11.140 But what's the difference?

00:11:15.740 I'm like, there's a bunch of dudes at the gym there. They probably look better than the guys

00:11:20.100 at the club, if we're going to be really honest here. I mean, the guys at the club, they go out

00:11:26.300 drinking all the time. If it's like a regular occurrence for them. So they're not going to be

00:11:30.920 in shape, right? The guys in the gym are in shape. Although the guys in the club probably spit better

00:11:45.220 game. What do you think? What do you think wins game or spits? Like, sorry, gains or spitting

00:11:51.100 game? I think spitting game does. We love, we fall in love with what we hear. So we love liars.

00:12:03.760 Um, okay. So that's the, I, I just, I get all this knowledge about nutrition and food. And I

00:12:10.840 just I love that I have a microphone here because it's like if I go into the real world and just

00:12:16.100 start telling people all this stuff about nutrition and food they're just gonna look at me like I'm

00:12:20.820 crazy right and annoying and like why are you just I'm having a great time I'm having a great time

00:12:29.160 so all right um okay so let's start the show with our our history lesson um today we have

00:12:40.760 a special guest coming on the show let me pull up hold on let me pull up the document i accidentally

00:12:47.760 exit out of it um he is going to be giving us a history lesson and we love we love having him on

00:12:56.020 welcome to the show gray lamb

00:12:58.700 hello

00:13:04.820 how's it going

00:13:06.660 all right

00:13:08.240 so this is my

00:13:10.980 actual voice

00:13:12.540 I guarantee

00:13:14.160 somebody will say

00:13:16.800 the previous one was

00:13:18.940 better

00:13:19.600 hey it's all right

00:13:22.600 yeah okay

00:13:24.200 comments are always good a comment

00:13:26.660 that's fine don't worry about it

00:13:28.700 Okay, so I just wanted to thank you for being so patient with me

00:13:37.700 Oh, that's fine

00:13:40.700 Okay, so yeah, and I hope you're doing well and your family and your boyfriend

00:13:50.600 Thank you

00:13:53.200 Okay, so

00:13:55.940 I'm looking at the the notes

00:13:59.420 And you want to do an opening statement?

00:14:02.640 Yes.

00:14:03.520 Before I begin, I want to make something clear.

00:14:07.960 Everyone deserves equal social and political rights,

00:14:14.420 regardless of race, religion, or gender.

00:14:18.940 And nothing I say should indicate otherwise

00:14:23.440 or that I believe otherwise.

00:14:27.140 Okay.

00:14:28.080 Okay.

00:14:28.700 All right, so I wanted to go back to a couple of things I discussed last time first.

00:14:40.660 I'm going to give you a quote from a black intellectual from the Caribbean, France Fanon.

00:14:50.080 I quoted him last time, but I didn't have sources.

00:14:54.460 And this would be okay. I mean, not okay, but not a big deal if he was just some random black radical. 0.94

00:15:06.140 But as you can see, he is taught in the big Ivy League universities with Africana studies in Columbia and worse at Harvard with an introduction to social studies class.

00:15:27.480 okay and the quote is when a woman lives the fantasy of essay by a black person

00:15:40.260 i'm improvising it is in some way the fulfillment of a private dream of an inner wish accomplishing

00:15:50.840 the phenomena of turning against self it is the woman who essays herself oh wow now i'm

00:16:02.900 sorry oh i said oh wow yeah now this is not to say that women don't have fantasies of

00:16:11.300 course they do and that's fine but SA is SA and this is the sort of thing that they're

00:16:22.580 teaching to the people who are supposed to be the intellectual leaders of tomorrow okay

00:16:31.340 so this is you're saying this isn't all the schools yeah well when I didn't go to either

00:16:38.440 of those places but it was taught where i went and in many other places as well this is really

00:16:50.520 an example of what higher education has become in the united states and in europe too probably

00:17:02.040 wow okay and so you have the syllabus here from harvard and columbia yeah okay um

00:17:12.760 oh and he was uh they discussed him the founders of black lives matter discussed him yeah them too

00:17:19.480 uh did uh patricia colors i think yeah so i just i cannot conceive of blm not being a terrorist

00:17:40.540 movement got it okay yeah okay that makes sense yeah all right so moving on some people had

00:17:52.760 doubts about the wheel thing with sub-saharan africa now can you remind me what you said

00:18:02.620 And the screen is a little bit ago now, so just remind me if you don't mind.

00:18:06.700 Before colonialism, most, not all, but most of Sub-Saharan Africa didn't have wheels.

00:18:18.780 And that was a big thing because wheeled vehicles are how you transport stuff,

00:18:24.960 how you feed larger numbers of people.

00:18:29.100 So when did colonialism start?

00:18:32.620 uh gradually but it really really started like in the 1880s okay that's what i thought because

00:18:40.460 i knew someone in london whose grandma was there when it ended and i think it did it

00:18:46.160 end in like the 60s around ish yeah the 60s

00:18:50.640 she said she wanted it to come back

00:18:56.520 she said she wanted them to come back well yeah i'm not sure if that's a good idea right now

00:19:09.960 but the way we look at history needs to change okay really so they didn't they didn't have the

00:19:18.060 wheel until like the 1880s you're saying yeah most of sub-saharan africa when did europe get the wheel

00:19:26.940 like 4 000 bc oh my god that's so bad oh okay go ahead keep going yeah so that's part of why

00:19:42.960 Africa had problems, but I'm going to move on to Europe for a moment here.

00:19:48.800 Okay.

00:19:51.040 So people think of racial oppression as white people oppressing black people, right?

00:20:02.560 but you know that's because you know we think of marxist terms 0.99

00:20:14.000 uh white people enslaved more black people therefore whites are the oppressors blacks 0.97

00:20:22.000 are the victims but you gotta look deeper than that you gotta look into who's eating 0.99

00:20:29.680 and who's being starved and the fact of the matter was

00:20:39.600 there were things that africa and asia were doing to europe that was causing europeans to starve 0.93

00:20:51.840 so what could if you what could africa do if they didn't have a wheel

00:20:57.040 well we're talking about the northern part of africa they did have the wheel the muslim areas 0.98

00:21:05.760 hold on let me look in the africa i don't want to i don't want to i don't want to say the wrong

00:21:11.980 countries it's asking that to the northern part okay so what part of africa was more developed

00:21:17.860 like morocco algeria libya egypt yeah those areas um so and that's more middle that's more um like

00:21:29.780 muslim you're saying yeah though it isn't just those areas that are muslim it goes deeper down

00:21:39.860 into Africa than that. Mali, and on the east coast much further, Tanzania the coast, Mozambique

00:21:50.080 the coast. Islam reached quite deep into Africa before colonialism, but in Europe there were

00:22:09.540 a lot of problems, war, climate cooling, but the part of Europe that was doing the best

00:22:20.060 was Northern Europe, you know, England, Holland, Scandinavia, those areas.

00:22:28.980 the parts of europe that were losing population southern europe eastern europe and it took them

00:22:40.540 time to recover and this was in what time period this is the biggest was in the 17th century

00:22:50.280 but it went on afterwards uh some into the 18th and even the early 19th okay okay so

00:23:01.040 you're saying like italy was it was rough in italy spain greece turkey yeah well turkey

00:23:09.440 turkey is not part of europe and in fact that's part of the issue greece hungary

00:23:17.240 bulgaria macedonia those regions were under turkish muslim rule okay

00:23:25.420 yeah um

00:23:28.200 yeah so why do you think that was that southern europe was having this problem

00:23:39.400 um my first thought was that it was something with like somebody blocking like a some trade

00:23:50.440 because i don't know my thought is somebody was messing up their ability to get food

00:23:55.080 or some sort of resource exactly so people think that in the old days peasants grew all their own

00:24:06.020 food but that wasn't true anymore by that time in europe populations were big and most peasants

00:24:17.300 didn't have enough land to feed their families on their own they had to buy food as well

00:24:24.900 you know they grow some crops they could sell and then buy food okay and

00:24:34.920 The area of Europe that sold a lot of grain to the west was Eastern Europe, especially Poland and the Ukraine.

00:24:50.400 But those areas are being raided by the Crimean Tartars.

00:25:00.340 Have you heard of them?

00:25:04.920 yeah okay so i'm sorry i forgot that's okay the crimean tartars is that you said yeah okay yeah

00:25:16.840 um and the the sea trade to spain and italy is being raided by the barberry pirates so

00:25:28.840 um and when you think about it you know these peasants they suffer from malnutrition already

00:25:40.200 so their life expectancy is really close closely correlated with grain prices and grain scarcity

00:25:52.680 okay and was it because of a war or something that they weren't selling them food or was it just

00:25:57.560 like scarcity well they don't have enough grain being imported from eastern europe because eastern

00:26:08.280 europe is being raided by crimean tartars ottomans and the trade in the mediterranean the ships

00:26:16.520 are being raided by barbary pirates oh i've heard of them the barbary where are they from

00:26:22.680 um tunis tripoli those sorts of city they're the muslims all right okay yeah um so you know when 1.00

00:26:37.460 we worst historically like i don't know when i hear history stories they always seem to be the

00:26:43.580 most brutal well you know i don't really like to say those things um but you know but if you had

00:26:54.820 i i yeah well again regardless what i'm what i'm saying i do not want anyone to have fewer rights

00:27:06.440 than anybody else so i'll just right you don't have that that's right keep going um

00:27:15.960 okay yeah so in the ottoman areas of the balkan villages were abandoned because people are fleeing

00:27:26.760 the cruelty of the ottoman administration they're going up into the mountains 0.99

00:27:32.360 where there's less good soil and they're starving as well okay so you know we're talking about

00:27:43.720 millions of people who should have lived but didn't because you know it's all about

00:27:53.740 infant mortality

00:27:56.580 and stuff like that

00:27:58.380 more grain

00:28:01.220 is going to be the crucial

00:28:02.880 factor in

00:28:04.800 ensuring that more

00:28:07.140 people live

00:28:08.960 to adulthood

00:28:10.800 and we see generation

00:28:13.340 after generation

00:28:14.800 the populations

00:28:16.920 of southern and eastern

00:28:19.300 Europe

00:28:20.300 stagnating

00:28:23.740 or even going down whereas those of northern europe who aren't nearly as affected by these

00:28:32.920 raids they're going up up up okay what is um like what's the difference is it up by like

00:28:43.520 is there a big discrepancy between the two like how much of the population went down what percent

00:28:48.280 um it's a little bit debated sorry i don't have the exact numbers right now just a guess is fine

00:28:58.840 um well you know some uh population estimates for the balkans say it went down from like

00:29:09.540 eight million to five million under the yeah in the 1600s wow okay that's crazy okay um but yeah

00:29:23.220 okay um so in order to ensure that people understand the other way this was going

00:29:41.300 in terms of european colonialism i want to talk about how european colonialism

00:29:49.940 well it wasn't perfect it benefited the areas it was in okay

00:29:57.700 where what parts of africa was it in actually i don't really know much about the history of

00:30:02.260 colonial uh i was called the colonizer once oh well every country except liberia and kind of

00:30:14.900 Ethiopia were colonized. Ethiopia was invaded by the Italians under Mussolini and they were

00:30:25.060 close to conquering it but at the last moment World War II broke out and the British helped 0.98

00:30:32.340 the ethiopians to kick out the italians okay um

00:30:40.420 yeah so all other areas in africa were colonized so at the beginning so the 16th to the 18th century

00:30:52.500 in asia europeans haven't colonized it the whole areas yet but they they've captured some parts

00:31:01.700 along the coast and sometimes they're given ports by local authorities like the portuguese were

00:31:09.620 given macau by the chinese because of trade um yeah the majority of the new silver in the world

00:31:26.900 is going to um comes from you know the mines in spanish america and huge huge amounts of it

00:31:38.740 are going to china and india especially but the middle east too um yeah so it's enriching those

00:31:47.540 areas okay and is this is this only the british that are colonizing them at this point it's more

00:32:00.420 okay the portuguese were the first then the dutch came came in the british they were there 0.60

00:32:09.940 but they became the most powerful in asia only in the 1700s really okay um when they conquered

00:32:20.340 bengal uh a big part of india in the 1750s that really was a big thing to for british colonialism

00:32:33.300 okay um

00:32:34.660 yeah they have india too they yeah bengal was the first part of india they conquered 1.00

00:32:45.780 really the first big part oh cool i just pulled up a map so it's kind of curious

00:32:55.780 well they didn't conquer it all at once it was piece by piece that they conquered india look at

00:33:02.500 this guys you've probably seen it you probably hold on i want to show them look at this guys

00:33:10.500 pretty cool pretty cool okay okay keep going um so going to spanish americas

00:33:22.820 um in terms of the natives the i talked about heights last time with slaves

00:33:34.820 uh natives in the the americas under spanish rule were also taller than in pre-columbian times

00:33:44.900 okay because you know the the spanish they have efficiently turned areas that were only used for

00:33:57.160 hunting and gathering into areas where cattle and pigs and sheep are raised for meat and their ships

00:34:07.220 trade fish

00:34:08.520 from

00:34:11.100 like Newfoundland.

00:34:13.860 Okay.

00:34:21.540 So that really

00:34:23.280 suggests that overall

00:34:25.840 at least by the

00:34:27.480 18th century

00:34:28.900 natives were doing better

00:34:31.360 after

00:34:32.780 a lot of them died

00:34:35.240 from diseases in the in earlier periods but by the 18th century they were doing better than they had

00:34:43.420 in previous generations in the pre-kilometer okay so you're saying that like it's the idea

00:34:52.260 people make it seem like colonialism didn't benefit the countries but a lot of them brought

00:34:57.940 in systems and technology um that helps them exactly okay

00:35:07.300 okay um yeah so people you know the far left will say that there was like a 90 percent

00:35:16.740 population decline in the americas

00:35:22.180 and you know some scholars said oh because of carbon data from Antarctica a lot of trees

00:35:35.800 must have regrown after the Europeans came but another scholar yeah the this paper written

00:35:48.600 by Bush and his associates, not our former president, shows that that's some misinterpretation

00:35:58.060 of the data. So there were, you know, what was happening at that time was the Little

00:36:07.420 ice age the weather got colder about 1250 and that caused hardship all over the world um

00:36:21.420 okay yeah the the european colonialism didn't add to that what do you mean like you're saying

00:36:29.980 in america in america in europe yeah the um there the little ice age happened because of

00:36:39.600 natural weather phenomena the weather got colder and you know so harvests fail more and stuff like

00:36:48.040 that okay yeah yeah we don't in this modern era we don't really recognize how delicate

00:36:55.060 populations were in the past you know small issues with um cooling could cause you know

00:37:06.940 crops to fail many many people to starve got it okay um well what about like i thought it was

00:37:18.700 from like native americans it was from um the disease and stuff at the beginning yeah a lot

00:37:26.860 of them died of disease when europeans came because they were already having problems because

00:37:35.900 of the little a sage so they were very vulnerable to those drops the drop was about 50 now that's

00:37:44.460 high but it actually wasn't in out really out of place for a lot of societies at a primitive

00:37:54.540 technological level um for to to drop 50 at times that's crazy so half of the people you know would

00:38:05.020 just die that's crazy yeah um you know the debate will continue but what we need to think about is

00:38:19.980 modern tribes that lived like native americans do if you want to get an idea of how large these

00:38:33.180 populations were you know because there are still some tribes in like brazil that were never contacted

00:38:44.700 by europeans

00:38:48.140 they're still hunter-gatherers and do a little farming

00:38:53.980 they really haven't had anyone contact them with all the youtubers now um nope really yeah

00:39:03.180 where in brazil yeah and little in colombia i think there's one in peru

00:39:11.020 i knew there was that one island that that guy tried to go to to convert and they died

00:39:15.740 you remember that yeah well them too but what we see is these groups are never more than a few

00:39:27.580 hundred or a few thousand because you can't support big populations with you

00:39:39.040 know an indigenous lifestyle like that you can't feed that many people oh so 1.00

00:39:49.240 when it's hunter-gatherer like your population can't be that big yeah now

00:39:54.880 Now, not all natives were hunter-gatherers, but most were.

00:40:01.420 And even the more advanced ones, like the Aztecs and the Mayans, 0.50

00:40:07.500 actually, they didn't have wheels either.

00:40:12.060 Only Europe, Asia, and North Africa, 0.87

00:40:18.880 and parts of the east coast of Africa had wheels,

00:40:24.880 before the 1500s all right am i missing something how did nobody think of that

00:40:31.280 like i don't know maybe it's because i'm alive today but i'm like how did

00:40:36.320 well it's hard to make a wheel

00:40:40.640 yeah i i don't know but you know when you think about of course for hundreds of thousands of

00:40:48.000 years if you believe uh current science we didn't have wheels or bows and arrows or anything

00:40:59.840 or art okay yeah but so wait so how did they move stuff in the aztec if they didn't have wheels

00:41:11.280 they carried stuff sometimes they would drag it with sleds

00:41:18.000 The Incas, they had llamas and alpacas to carry their stuff.

00:41:25.000 Those are all right, though they're not as strong

00:41:27.500 as some animals in the old world.

00:41:31.440 Like you can't plow with llamas.

00:41:37.280 They had to do that by hand in all the Americas.

00:41:41.480 They plowed by hand.

00:41:42.760 They couldn't attach a horse or an ox.

00:41:48.000 to a plow because they didn't have any.

00:41:53.640 One second.

00:41:54.680 I got to let my dog out.

00:41:55.720 all right i'm back but i have to i'll let her back in in a second um okay so they use sluts 1.00

00:42:24.040 that makes sense yeah um so i can't really go for all the population comparisons right now

00:42:38.360 with colonialism so i'm gonna go to go over something briefer migration who migrated rare

00:42:49.080 So if colonialism in the 19th and 20th century was bad, you'd think that people would go from colonized areas to uncolonized areas, right?

00:43:04.920 yeah right well it was the other way around um in liberia so as i said that was the one

00:43:17.460 well that in ethiopia were the two uncolonized nations large numbers of crew people

00:43:27.800 from Liberia, which was their original homeland, went to Sierra Leone, which was a British colony.

00:43:36.160 And they just, they endured double discrimination there from, you know, from the British and from

00:43:45.220 local Africans. But they endured it because the economic prospects were better than in Liberia.

00:43:54.400 more work better standard of living and we go to apartheid South Africa now not

00:44:07.480 condoning apartheid I at all but remind me racial segregation okay it ended in 0.52

00:44:18.920 1994 with nelson mantella coming to power um too bad to be honest i'm sorry i wouldn't mind well

00:44:34.120 anyway um yeah so okay we don't have statistics from too far back

00:44:42.680 but from 1990 we see a lot more africans coming to south africa than leaving it and of course

00:44:56.580 that's still the case today south africa like the u.s has a lot of illegal immigration from

00:45:04.180 the rest of africa because even though apartheid has ended

00:45:10.260 the white landowners in south africa they're still there and they're helping

00:45:16.260 the economy a lot a lot more than if they weren't there

00:45:21.220 right um

00:45:26.180 yeah just a couple of other instances um you know

00:45:34.180 India was colonized. Hello?

00:45:46.720 Oops. Everything okay?

00:45:49.540 Yeah, it's fine. I just let my dog in, but I can still hear you.

00:45:52.000 Okay. India was colonized. Nepal wasn't directly colonized.

00:45:58.100 a lot of nepalese went to india not the other way around but in fact previously in the pre-colonial

00:46:07.960 era indians had been going to nepal now it's nepalese that go to india a lot of them as

00:46:16.020 soldiers for the british army in india okay so you're saying you begin to see how good places

00:46:25.600 are to be by where people are going and they're not being honest in history because a lot of the

00:46:30.960 places that were under colonization um and they make it seem like it was so awful but then why

00:46:37.720 were people going to live there even if there was things like discrimination and segregation

00:46:42.780 people would still go to live there yeah so afghanistan too um and even japan now japan was

00:46:51.820 more advanced than other non-european countries um of course the u.s forced them to open up

00:47:00.620 to trade under admiral perry after that you know they developed very quickly um but even with them

00:47:13.020 uh you know large numbers of japanese migrated to hawaii we don't see hawaiians going to japan

00:47:20.540 at that time right okay um and i wanted to bring over to bring i'm sorry bring up uh in mexico

00:47:35.560 during the 1930s they had a president i might be mispronouncing this i apologize if i am

00:47:45.000 Lazaro Cardenas he okay so it's complicated but he was one he was of

00:47:55.560 native descent he wasn't the first Mexican president of native descent but

00:48:01.540 he reformed things a lot he took land away from the Spanish landowners and

00:48:07.380 gave it to indigenous communities of Mexicans. But we don't see, you think we'd

00:48:19.620 see Native Americans from the U.S. migrating to Mexico at that time,

00:48:28.540 wouldn't you? Trying to join these indigenous communities, right? Right, yeah,

00:48:35.400 it was so bad nope we do not see that um and of course mexican immigration wasn't as big

00:48:45.240 back then but it was happening to the us so what about when you hear stuff like

00:48:51.480 the trail of tears and like all the horror stories you hear um sorry go ahead well they

00:48:58.840 were unfortunate my metaphor is medicine they invented new medicine uh it costs it saves

00:49:11.880 millions of lives but hundreds perhaps thousands have nasty side effects might even kill some

00:49:20.040 people some people who might otherwise have lived got it okay that's what you know the

00:49:27.640 differences in government are like no government is perfect but some do things better than others

00:49:35.800 right okay and so that's kind of like growing pains in a way yeah um yeah and i look forward

00:49:46.040 to the day when there's no hunger or poverty in the world and i think with uh technology that

00:49:53.800 may be coming soon but yeah not here quite yet unfortunately black people find a way to stay in 1.00

00:50:03.920 poverty well the world the world gets better gradually and you know think about it black 1.00

00:50:14.580 people today are living a lot better than their old masters were even most of their masters

00:50:23.780 actually the majority of them lived in cabins uh log cabins with dirt floors and the like

00:50:31.060 and even the plantation owners they you know they lose their children their siblings when

00:50:38.920 they're growing up of disease i don't know there's a guy that called into the show that

00:50:43.520 does section eight housing and i i don't really that guy there he showed me videos and one guy

00:50:50.600 had a hundred bottles of piss in his room okay well it is unfortunate that things happen but

00:51:01.080 i believe with time everything will gradually get better okay yeah um i could talk well don't

00:51:11.440 really have time but it's okay you can go a little longer go ahead okay well i don't have a source for

00:51:17.080 this but mexico today has a higher gdp per capita um adjusted for inflation than the u.s did uh in

00:51:31.960 early 90s oh wow okay so and uh india parts of it are higher in the human development index

00:51:48.680 than britain was in 1980 not the whole country but parts of it like delhi yeah i mean i'd rather be

00:51:58.360 alive today i agree yeah so progress is an instant but it's happening and you know i think a better

00:52:08.840 world is coming cool well thanks this is really informative i always like when you come on so oh

00:52:16.760 okay thank you very much and i i liked um yesterday how you called out elijah shaffer

00:52:27.320 he is a big hypocrite yeah i mean it would do him better to just come on and say

00:52:34.760 do you know what i love young coonanny i love it sorry guys you know what i'm a christian but i 0.98

00:52:41.400 just i'm gonna yeah that'd be a lot more honest you know indeed okay thank you very much again

00:52:49.960 okay thanks for coming all right guys um i'm gonna get a snack because i'm a woman

00:52:57.080 and i love my snacks you know um it's gonna be a locale snack i think i'm gonna get a yogurt

00:53:03.880 i'm a little hungry and then we're gonna watch um rachel wilson's um joe rogan appearance

00:53:11.160 win it for men. But first, you guys, this is the divorce documentary. I'm putting the down payment

00:53:19.940 on the team that we're picking this week. So that's exciting. Right. And yeah, we're going to

00:53:26.880 right now we're picking people to interview. So if you know anybody, that'd be a good interview

00:53:32.020 story for the divorce documentary. Feel free to email Doug at the audacity network.com. Doug

00:53:38.060 at the audacitynetwork.com um and now i'm gonna we're gonna play this while i get a snack

00:53:46.380 this clip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question 0.98

00:53:55.540 do we need men most answered very quickly no because men are useless

00:54:02.420 this headline from the hill it caught my eye most young men are single most young women are not 0.61

00:54:09.940 young men have fallen faster than any demographic in america over the last 40 years it's a different

00:54:15.020 world now like we don't need men the way that they used to nobody needs men the future is female 1.00

00:54:20.600 men and women are drifting further apart and society is crumbling because of it 1.00

00:54:27.920 a fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage you've kind of got the trad

00:54:32.940 con versus red pill thing this men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way

00:54:38.020 you need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men marriage is a

00:54:43.120 bond and it's a sacred bond it's a machine designed to extract resources from you now many

00:54:48.260 of the red pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married

00:54:51.160 Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things one of the most controversial faces in all of the internet 0.98

00:54:59.940 she goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men because if me and you were in a

00:55:04.100 business contract you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave gee what could go wrong

00:55:09.180 there 74 percent or something of divorces are initiated by women men have everything to lose 0.91

00:55:15.120 primarily their own children men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws I had no idea that

00:55:20.700 Courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.

00:55:24.420 Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.

00:55:27.620 You need no evidence.

00:55:28.760 When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for.

00:55:32.460 And you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.

00:55:35.780 I interviewed them on the other side.

00:55:38.340 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.

00:55:40.640 How much did you spend trying to get him back?

00:55:42.780 The legal fees alone was about $200,000.

00:55:44.960 Before you know it, you're homeless.

00:55:46.580 You're literally just thrown out onto the street.

00:55:48.340 we absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women wives are taught to leave their husbands and then 1.00

00:55:53.380 daughters grow up without their fathers family is a foundation of society every problem in society 0.71

00:55:58.500 comes from single mother homes a lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of 1.00

00:56:02.820 happiness endless happiness feminism's biggest failures is it lies to women we tell women to 1.00

00:56:06.900 date as many guys as possible we tell them to put off family into marriage you are allowed to leave

00:56:11.460 your perfect husband you are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend 0.98

00:56:16.980 oh freeze your eggs have an abortion what you're evil i don't think there's anything else in life 0.95

00:56:21.380 that we actually ever go into preparing to fail right like if you have the mentality of this is

00:56:25.860 going to go wrong and be pessimistic naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to

00:56:30.020 fail anyway it's self-sabotage that's the thing like women are so willing to leave marriages 1.00

00:56:34.340 because they're not happy this is not about happiness the most important thing is the children

00:56:39.540 and the problem is we have a modern society where it's me me me my feelings leave when i feel like

00:56:45.140 it instead of doing what's best for the kids this myth that we live in an age of male privilege

00:56:50.880 where's my male privilege they think well men have all the rights they have all the power 0.96

00:56:54.600 privilege patriarchal system that we have why doesn't our society care about men's rights 0.97

00:56:59.420 i have no friends no wife and no social life men are alone in this situation men are homeless

00:57:05.500 men are thinking about eating guns i've seen so many men on on the brink of suicide and they

00:57:10.560 didn't do anything wrong. How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die

00:57:16.120 to defend the country? The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure. Women 1.00

00:57:21.640 are helplessly dependent upon men. The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose to

00:57:27.160 alcohol, three times higher among men than among women. Culture is telling men you are no good.

00:57:32.880 You got to get your act together. I think men have failed themselves. What kind of a man are you?

00:57:36.600 what kind of a woman are you going to attract if men are in trouble so are women everybody knows 0.99

00:57:42.100 this is a huge problem but nobody wants to admit it every single woman at the table said they 0.60

00:57:47.020 wanted a man 500k 500k 300k 200k am i crazy everything is really set up against you to

00:57:52.200 fail as a man if men make less than women women don't want to marry them so you know who wants 1.00

00:57:57.340 more economically and emotionally viable men women i don't want to be an independent woman anymore

00:58:04.000 i don't want to be a strong independent woman i'm over it when is it going to be my turn where

00:58:08.880 are we meeting the men that don't stop i can't keep having these same conversations the only

00:58:13.600 simp here is you pearl you simply i think i think you said for women she's a provocateur she says 0.99

00:58:17.920 stupid stuff but pearl is right about this it's already happening it's just not out in the open 0.99

00:58:22.400 yet now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a 1.00

00:58:26.320 wife and women can't find a husband the future if everybody follows your path is there is no future 0.99

00:58:32.480 We go into population decline, and our economy goes into decline.

00:58:36.500 Civilization will crumble.

00:58:38.300 The American story does not end well.

00:58:40.840 This is an existential crisis failing young men.

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00:59:40.540 so there's this clip going viral

00:59:56.280 online of a dozen women being asked the following question, do we need men? Most answered very

01:00:03.840 quickly, no, because men are useless. This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye. 0.99

01:00:11.060 Most young men are single. Most young women are not. Young men have fallen faster than any

01:00:16.360 demographic in America over the last 40 years. It's a different world now. We don't need men 1.00

01:00:20.860 the way that they used to the future is female men and women are drifting further apart and 0.75

01:00:29.740 society is crumbling because of it a fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage

01:00:35.820 you've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing this men's rights crowd that sometimes just

01:00:40.540 goes too far the other way you need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become

01:00:45.740 marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond it's a machine designed to extract resources from you

01:00:51.860 now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married 0.99

01:00:55.180 it's hannah pearl davis or just pearly things one of the most controversial faces in all of 1.00

01:01:03.500 the internet she goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men because if me and 0.62

01:01:07.740 you were in a business contract you would never sign a contract where i am paid to leave gee what

01:01:12.620 could go wrong there. 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women. Men have everything to 0.99

01:01:19.000 lose, primarily their own children. Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws. I had no idea

01:01:24.500 that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law. Because in family court, you

01:01:29.520 don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse. You need no evidence. When you guys say get married

01:01:34.080 young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for, and you're not going to be there

01:01:37.720 when their entire life falls apart.

01:01:39.840 I interviewed them on the other side.

01:01:42.380 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.

01:01:44.680 How much did you spend trying to get him back?

01:01:46.840 On legal fees alone was about $200,000.

01:01:49.200 Before you know it, you're homeless.

01:01:50.620 You're literally just thrown out onto the street.

01:01:52.500 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women. 1.00

01:01:54.940 Wives are taught to leave their husbands. 0.99

01:01:56.860 And then daughters grow up without their fathers.

01:01:59.220 Family is a foundation of society.

01:02:00.820 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes. 1.00

01:02:04.160 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole 1.00

01:02:06.580 of happiness endless happiness feminism's biggest failures is it lies to women we tell women to date 1.00

01:02:11.220 as many guys as possible we tell them to put off family into marriage you are allowed to leave your 1.00

01:02:15.780 perfect husband you are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend oh freeze your ex

01:02:21.860 i'm an abortion what you're evil i don't think there's anything else in life that we actually 0.93

01:02:26.020 ever go into preparing to fail right like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong

01:02:30.740 and be pessimistic. All right. What's up, guys? Sorry about that. A ton of weight. I've lost a

01:02:45.520 good amount. My sister's lost more weight than me. She was fatter. All right. Where are we at?

01:03:02.140 Here we go. All right. Sit back, relax, get some popcorn. Today, we're going to all watch

01:03:15.360 show rogan

01:03:17.320 yeah so i had divorced parents yeah it really didn't like like another four years of school

01:03:28.800 just sounded like hell to me i didn't really think too much into how this all got started

01:03:34.700 until i listened to your book and i'm like this is kind of bonkers so before we get into your book

01:03:40.820 like how did you decide to write about this like what what was your little journey oh or big journey

01:03:48.260 yeah it's kind of a big journey so uh when i was growing up i was like a in all the advanced kid

01:03:54.100 classes and from the time i was in like kindergarten it was just pounded into my head like

01:03:58.420 you're going to college you're going to have a career and you know you're smart and you have

01:04:03.380 to do something with that it was like the only option that was put before me and so i followed

01:04:07.700 that path like all the way through school and by the time i got done with 12 years of regular school

01:04:13.380 i realized a couple things one is uh school is not where you go to learn things uh school isn't

01:04:18.980 nest public school is not so great for smart people for the most part and that i really didn't

01:04:25.460 like like another four years of school just sounded like hell to me and i really just wanted to get

01:04:31.700 married and have kids that's kind of what i always wanted to do much to the horror of my marxist

01:04:36.740 feminist mother um who did not like that at an early age well she tried you can't always control 1.00

01:04:44.020 your kids that's the thing a lot of people think um that you can control your kid a doll

01:04:51.620 we're really doing

01:04:54.980 the lowest dollar super chat here okay

01:04:59.140 okay um died but i was the why kid i was the kid that's just like why why but why um and i had like

01:05:11.840 a rush limbaugh dad wow yeah they got divorced shocker who could have seen it coming

01:05:18.060 um so they got divorced when i was like nine and i had so i grew up in like two worlds i had like

01:05:22.880 republican business owner rush limbaugh dad and i had marxist feminist crazy mom was the mom always 1.00

01:05:29.600 marxist feminist and was the the the dad always like a rush limbaugh republican yep how did they 0.94

01:05:35.600 fall in love how did all that happen i was an accident oh so they just fall in lust

01:05:42.000 i was like a an oops baby and my dad said that when he saw me he was like well i don't want

01:05:48.400 anybody else right like this is the only thing that matters to me so i'm gonna make this work

01:05:52.800 and he tried his best how did they even hook up that never works such radically different ideologies

01:05:59.200 hey sometimes you you what you hate you know hate is closer to love i don't think they were talking

01:06:05.840 about that sort of thing when they got together they were probably hanging out at a bar oh so

01:06:10.480 they didn't really know each other very well not really no they were kind of like they worked in

01:06:15.280 the same place and met at work and then had like a fling and then i was born yeah yeah so

01:06:22.560 i had divorced parents yeah it was it was really rough because my mother like hated my dad she 0.98

01:06:30.400 could never tell you anything he did wrong yeah it was just like he's a evil white patriarchist

01:06:36.720 bad bad republican man one of my earliest memories is them fighting over the bush dukakis election

01:06:42.400 in 88 and like threatening to lock each other in the house so that the one couldn't cancel the

01:06:46.160 other one's vote yeah yeah i know fun it was fun was this before after kitty dukakis drank mouthwash

01:06:56.720 or what did she drink she drank something like that aftershave or mouthwash to try to get drunk 0.63

01:07:01.680 yeah she would the pressure of the election must have been so insane and this is pre-social media

01:07:09.280 right and this lady was already struggling with like alcoholism and uh i think she was hospitalized 1.00

01:07:15.040 for drinking something that was not a drink well can you find out what that was it was really crazy

01:07:22.000 right remember do you remember that i just remember that whole election being pretty nuts

01:07:26.160 like as far as like the democrats versus republic and this was when democrats were more like how

01:07:31.280 republicans are right now they weren't like ride in a tank to make everybody think he was like a

01:07:37.360 pro-war tough guy remember that yeah this is before me i wasn't alive yeah and i remember

01:07:43.040 read my lips no new taxes and all that stuff so like i i had this going on like as a kid so i

01:07:48.960 think my brain was already thinking about this sort of stuff from the time i was little rubbing

01:07:53.440 alcohol oh that's crazy nail polish remover oh my god she drank nail polish remover holy 1.00

01:08:04.240 it she couldn't just huff paint like normal person very open about her struggles with alcohol and 0.97

01:08:09.920 addiction to amphetamines to reduce the stigma surrounding these issues later detailing these

01:08:14.960 experiences in her books huh okay yeah so my parents were like ready to kill each other over

01:08:21.280 that and so they divorced right right after that they divorced and so i'd spend time with dad and

01:08:27.120 i'd spend time with mom and i had two completely different realities and world views and i think

01:08:33.360 growing up like that you're trying to sort out what's true you're trying to figure out like is

01:08:37.520 there any merit to what mom's saying the world is or any merit to what dad saying the world is

01:08:42.320 and i think dad was more persuasive and and better at pulling me his direction because i never really 0.98

01:08:47.520 absorbed like i always thought marxism was you know faking gay and stupid i just never bought 0.96

01:08:53.680 into it at all why at an early age did you think that uh because i already had seen that you know 0.99

01:09:00.720 we're not all born equal with equal things and some people work much harder some people have

01:09:06.640 natural gifts and talents and to think that because my mother would literally say stuff in the house 0.99

01:09:12.320 like from you know from each person according to their ability to each person according to their

01:09:18.080 need and i was like even when i do that in class like if there's a group project everybody wants

01:09:23.760 me on their team because i'm the smart kid who's going to do the homework i end up doing everything

01:09:27.520 and everybody else gets the a even though i did everything so those are the people that are really

01:09:31.280 into socialism people that have fast stuff yes yeah and so like from being a little kid i even

01:09:37.520 noticed like no things aren't equal and things aren't always fair and it depends on you know

01:09:43.880 your natural skills and abilities and then what you do with those things because there's lots of

01:09:48.260 people like my mother was super talented really intelligent person but she was so like emotionally 0.98

01:09:53.920 chaotic she never applied them to anything she never really got anywhere did anything she had big

01:09:59.040 dreams of what she thought she should have and and never really got there because she was so

01:10:04.400 like emotionally unregulated and kind of chaotic so i just kind of saw that no there's not this

01:10:11.440 like thing where you can just even the playing field and make it all equal for everyone that's

01:10:15.200 not how it works there's also a thing that if you're locked up in something like marxism you

01:10:21.280 if that's your ideology you're in this constant struggle with the rest of the world all the time

01:10:28.160 where you want to bend it to your ideology you want to change it and so even if you're a very

01:10:33.360 intelligent person your daily mindset is struggle your daily mindset is conflict and existential

01:10:42.000 crisis like you know that is exactly that was that was the picture that was laid in front of

01:10:47.440 I mean, I go to dad's house and he's like, he started a business after the divorce and he's like hustling.

01:10:54.320 He's working 12 to 14 hour days. He's doing everything he can to make it work. He's not complaining.

01:10:59.660 He's just like, this is what you got to do. If you want to make it, if you want to, you know, do your own thing and prove that, you know, you're good at what you do.

01:11:06.000 You have to compete. You have to get out there. You have to work hard. Why complain about it?

01:11:10.080 and then my mom's whole world was she ended up being very bitter and resentful because it was 1.00

01:11:14.960 like this view of but i deserved this that should have been me i got robbed of it because here's the

01:11:20.720 thing a lot of women that are like super left are gonna raise these daughters that just hate their 1.00

01:11:28.240 guts my mom's running for congress i don't think women should vote i'm not gonna get too into it 1.00

01:11:35.520 right but that's the difference in opinion you know what i mean

01:11:44.640 i'll tell you what you know like and what's going to prove it

01:11:55.120 what's going to prove it is actually because we saw their life choices

01:12:00.240 yeah as whatever reason and often it was like if i was more attractive you know the men at work

01:12:10.080 would have given me a raise if i looked like the other woman in the office or something you know 1.00

01:12:14.400 so it was like this bitter resentful she was kind of like at war with the world so seeing those two

01:12:21.120 things neither of my parents are perfect who is who has perfect parents but it was kind of like

01:12:26.800 i'd rather play over here where there's a purpose for me working hard and giving it my best shot

01:12:31.840 and trying in life and figuring out what's important to me and then tailoring you know all

01:12:37.440 my efforts toward that and i just thought that um having a family was so cool and i wanted to have

01:12:44.960 the family i didn't have so uh i i had this dream of like getting married having kids having an

01:12:51.280 intact family and making it like a place where kids can grow up without all the screaming and

01:12:57.760 yelling and chaos that i had yeah i i think that rachel just my recommendation would get less grief 1.00

01:13:08.560 for her you know the the divorces and that stuff i know she never says she's perfect i'm not either

01:13:18.480 but the problem when you put your story like your personal story out i just i if i were her i wouldn't

01:13:25.440 put it out as much because then people just you give them ammo you know i don't know or maybe

01:13:30.960 makes people connect with you that's a decision every creator has to make and that a lot of kids

01:13:35.520 have nowadays so um didn't go to college i had a full ride scholarship and i didn't go which

01:13:41.840 everybody thought was the end of the world it was like a million views i'm kind of curious what was

01:13:47.760 the difference between her and andrews she said what the heck where did his go latest

01:13:56.640 god

01:13:59.920 where is andrew

01:14:03.680 tech am i missing something

01:14:08.160 i just i'm only looking because i saw a tweet that was like

01:14:10.960 if she gets more joe rogan andrew if she gets more views than me oh 2.1 uh one month ago four

01:14:23.280 days maybe you think i'll ever go on joe rogan guys do you think he'll ever have me on okay i

01:14:29.040 want to go a little further uh because i know her story education is something that allows you to get 0.79

01:14:35.760 along without intelligence and intelligence is something that allows you to get along without

01:14:39.680 education i like that that's yeah i was like oh i get it there's there's certain people that are

01:14:46.000 just dumb at certain things like i remember being around intelligent people that had no knowledge

01:14:53.840 of how a car worked okay i've been thinking more about the peasant class and the high status class 0.99

01:15:00.880 i think i'm going to start calling it the high status class and everybody is fighting like hell

01:15:07.120 to be in the high status class because the high status class includes the dating marketplace

01:15:12.400 so men are looking to like make a lot of money they're like i want to be in the high status class

01:15:19.280 women are like like me i go to the gym every day you know we're getting botox plastic surgery 1.00

01:15:28.400 maybe i'll get a new face next year i don't know but we fight like hell that's why anna

01:15:33.440 casparian her face like doesn't move like she's obviously had a ton of work done um and it's

01:15:40.560 because they don't want to be in the peasant class meaning they have to like do all their own stuff

01:15:46.000 but the problem is when you're in the high status class you're functionally retarded in some areas 0.93

01:15:50.560 the peasant class the low status class they learn how to do things themselves they cook their own 1.00

01:15:55.280 meals they know how to they know how to um budget really well like they because they're forced to

01:16:04.520 they have to um yeah women have high status in their 20s for just existing correct and that's 1.00

01:16:13.840 why they don't take the opinion of low status men or ugly women um those are usually the ones crying 1.00

01:16:20.080 that like women are whores the high status men aren't crying that women are whores because 0.99

01:16:23.580 they're banging the horse right they're like no no this is great it's low status men that are 1.00

01:16:28.220 upset and it's the same thing with um uh in general right um it's the same thing with ugly 0.99

01:16:36.260 women you know that's what i know i realized i would always bitch about girls like getting 1.00

01:16:40.640 on yachts in dubai but i was like i was never invited to a yacht so i just would never know

01:16:45.140 what that's like um but then the men enter into high status later in life because they become

01:16:56.700 something and i think that's like the biggest time when women crash out when they lose their status 1.00

01:17:02.520 and the men gain their status because they they women generally marry men lower in status that

01:17:08.840 like than them um but their status is dwindling so they're like usually on the tail end of their

01:17:17.640 status they get a low lower status guy but not by much and he's about to ascend them in status

01:17:23.720 does that make sense does that make sense so

01:17:27.560 like that but a lot of times the low status people are smarter than the high status people

01:17:38.160 because they can do stuff themselves right they can fix their own car they can where the high

01:17:45.120 status people have people do things for them so any of the workings of a car you would tell

01:17:51.040 well this is back in the spark plug days you explained to them like oh one of the cables for

01:17:55.760 your spark plug got loose you're only firing on five cylinders the six the whole six is not that's

01:18:00.640 why it's like shaking like that who like if that if it was anything else if you're talking about

01:18:05.840 about the economy if you're talking about the political process that guy would think the other 0.83

01:18:09.980 guy was a moron but now this guy thinks he's more i remember like being like auto shop class going 0.96

01:18:15.860 there's a lot of different kinds of intelligence we've just done this weird thing where we've 0.99

01:18:20.920 categorized like no complete like there are highly intelligent people but they apply their

01:18:27.820 intelligence in different ways and some people just have like a random thing they're really smart

01:18:32.460 at like my dad is a brother who's just a really good pilot he's not a pilot professionally or

01:18:38.940 anything but he's just really good at flying you know so you have to go to specific schools you

01:18:48.220 have to go to you got to get a degree everybody wanted to go to ivy league schools i lived in

01:18:51.740 boston it was like very important did you get a higher education you go on to make everybody proud

01:18:57.500 and they're all a lot of times the people that chase competence end up high stat like i have a

01:19:03.740 coffee talk i'm putting out later i've noticed that the highest status people care the least 0.97

01:19:09.220 about status like because imagine a guy goes to new york city and he chases status and i guess

01:19:15.420 maybe some of the finance guys make a lot of money but i was thinking about it a guy might end up in

01:19:20.020 better place in 10 years if he just stays in his hometown suburb and you know starts like a

01:19:29.940 mechanic i don't know i don't i don't know i was just thinking like he doesn't have the cost of

01:19:33.700 the city he doesn't get the right but he can make more money in 10 years and then go to the city

01:19:39.780 miserable well my dad said this to me he was the only person that when i graduated i said i don't

01:19:46.340 think i want to go to college for this i don't think that's what i want to do like any of the

01:19:51.700 things i'm looking at when i think about like having a career in in that thing i'm not very

01:19:56.980 excited about it i don't i don't get like oh hyped up to go do this i was like i really just kind of

01:20:02.580 want to you know maybe someday but i would love to have a bunch of kids and stuff and my dad was like

01:20:07.860 you know a lot of the people in my office have degrees and you know they have careers and some

01:20:12.580 of them are very miserable people so if you don't want to do that he's like you could always decide

01:20:17.940 to go later so i was like i'll i kind of like bargained with everyone i was like i'm just gonna

01:20:22.180 give it a year you know yeah and if it you know if i feel like i want to go to college after a year

01:20:28.100 of no high school um then i'll go you know i could still do it but i ended up having a baby at 20

01:20:35.380 which again was the end of the world oh my god rachel your life is over you'll never be anything

01:20:40.900 you'll never do anything it's over for you it's such a tragedy it was like treated like this

01:20:45.380 horrible thing and i thought it was great and when i had her the job that i had did not matter to me 0.88

01:20:53.540 anymore at all it seemed so stupid it was like anybody can go i was a hairstylist at the time 0.78

01:20:58.980 anybody can go do yeah so rachel's rachel's gonna have a different opinion right because 1.00

01:21:03.300 hairstylist that's the peasant class and back then 20 years ago you're not entering into

01:21:10.660 the high status class now women they're giving up more in order to have a kid 1.00

01:21:17.460 um because they're giving up their high status in society um because usually men don't want 0.98

01:21:26.820 women with kids right if your woman's hot enough maybe but they're giving up the sugar like the 1.00

01:21:31.540 sugar baby living in a a really cool city going to these cool events these parties

01:21:37.380 some women do it anyway they just ditch the kids leave them at home but when you think about the 1.00

01:21:42.340 rational choice it's like women don't like being left out they want to go to the city they want to 1.00

01:21:47.780 join like these hobby communities um they want to you know bang hot guys in the cities so some

01:21:58.420 hairstylists make good money well yeah but you're still in the servant class 0.98

01:22:03.860 i guess yeah i mean occasionally but you get what i'm saying you know

01:22:15.620 someone else can cut debbie's hair but only i can be her mom i want to do that and everybody 0.99

01:22:22.260 was telling me you have to go back to work you have to go back to work that's what we do now

01:22:26.340 two weeks after the baby's born you got to go back to work you need the money you need the security

01:22:30.180 you need the income and i looked around and thought this is insane like who came up with

01:22:37.140 this system because i am going to go drop her off at two weeks old and let some lady who doesn't 1.00

01:22:45.300 know or care about or love my baby the way that i do take care of her all day long you know if you

01:22:50.900 factor in the commute it's like nine nine and a half hours that i'm away from her by the time i

01:22:55.380 get home and feed her and give her a bath it'll be bedtime and that'll be it i'll get like maybe 0.86

01:23:00.500 two hours with my baby all day you know um and i get to pay half of what i make to this other 0.99

01:23:08.900 random person to raise my child who came up with this this is stupid and i have to pay taxes you 0.95

01:23:15.380 know and i have to have a second vehicle and insurance and a work wardrobe and i just thought 1.00

01:23:21.460 this is the most inefficient stupid system and everyone around me is like this is this is good 0.96

01:23:28.580 this is what we all need to do even like christian conservative women that were friends and family 1.00

01:23:34.020 members were like well you don't want to depend on a man because then you're going to get abused

01:23:39.060 they fear-mongered me to death about staying home with my kids and at the time uh this was

01:23:45.620 my high school boyfriend who i had my first child with um because i was kind of a libertarian at

01:23:50.740 this stage and both my parents at this point my parents have multiple divorces between the two

01:23:55.540 of them and i always i know i always heard oh marriage is just a piece of paper what really

01:24:01.220 matters is that you love each other and that sort of thing and i've known this guy since we were

01:24:05.700 kids we we've known each other forever we've been together for a long time so i thought this was

01:24:10.260 great and my goal was let's get us to the point where i can stay home and be like a full-time mom 0.91

01:24:17.540 and he had stuff going on it did not work out he took off devastating horrible terrible for me

01:24:24.620 no big fights no cheating nothing like that um you know he's a private person so i don't want

01:24:29.980 to tell his business but he had his own personal you can't do that you gotta you gotta just skip

01:24:37.180 over this because people that know you know i'm just just advice because i've made this mistake

01:24:42.380 before you'd never especially like if someone's an ex you just never want to insinuate anything

01:24:49.180 negative he took off that's insinuating something negative you don't want them crashing out things

01:24:54.300 going on and left and it was back to you know i had to work and be a working mom and i didn't like

01:25:02.220 that and i still thought that there was something wrong here but i hadn't really like looked into

01:25:06.380 where do we get this idea that women must be working like my grandma didn't work bless her 1.00

01:25:12.660 soul by the way she is going to be turning 100 april 1st my grandma who's still with us and

01:25:17.540 she's probably my ace in the hole and the reason i kind of turned out normal despite my chaotic

01:25:22.080 family upbringing because she was super grounded nice christian lady only in eighth grade education 1.00

01:25:29.100 but she knew how to do everything she'd go back and like pluck a chicken cook it up for dinner 1.00

01:25:34.400 can everything in the garden preserve all the food and she had more done by 8 a.m no i'm telling you

01:25:40.140 there's a housewife that lives by me i don't know if she went to college or not that woman 1.00

01:25:44.700 knows how to do everything it's like incredible how much she knows how to do i'm the most human

01:25:51.780 beings on earth so i had like grandma as a pillar to really help me through this stuff

01:25:56.340 so shout out grandma uh which is work yeah it's housework yeah yeah which is like really important

01:26:05.080 like it has to get done yeah and most people think someone else should do that yeah i need

01:26:10.040 to be in an office yeah this is for uh wages like low low paid wagey people to do i need to be doing

01:26:16.720 something important but i always thought she was really important she was super important to me

01:26:21.040 because when you know my parents were off doing whatever they were doing i'd always get dumped

01:26:25.300 at grandma's so i spent a ton of time with her growing up and she was full of wisdom and like i

01:26:31.140 said she knew how to do everything like her practical skills were crazy she can cook anything 0.94

01:26:35.140 she can clean anything she can can and preserve food she grew up during the great depression she 0.71

01:26:40.100 was born in 1928 oh wow yeah and she's she had been through some stuff like she lost her husband

01:26:45.860 cancer she lost her daughter to kidney disease like she had been through it so she had a lot of

01:26:51.380 like good advice and wisdom and she'd always say i wish i was smart like you i wish i was smart like

01:26:57.460 you and i could go to school and stuff like that but i thought it's kind of crazy how even like

01:27:02.500 when women are traditional they advise their daughters not to be i found this super common

01:27:06.980 when i was interviewing people from like africa and like very traditional countries even if the

01:27:12.660 mothers are traditional they tell the mothers not to be showing what does that show us that women 1.00

01:27:17.620 don't like men as much as we thought so grandma you're the only person that knows what the hell 1.00

01:27:24.180 they're doing you're the only person in my world who well the grass seems to know what they're

01:27:28.660 doing yeah the grass is always greener when you're looking at a woman that's entering into the 1.00

01:27:34.420 workforce who's really intelligent you start thinking oh she's gonna have a career yeah

01:27:39.620 she's gonna be a ceo someday and everyone's gonna respect her and while that person's on pills and 0.99

01:27:45.380 suicidal and can't sleep and well we we're gonna get into that we're gonna get into i'm sure like

01:27:51.620 how it's turned out for women pushing them into the workforce telling them they can have it all 1.00

01:27:56.260 well it's been amazing for them when they're young and it sucks for them when we're old

01:28:03.300 um

01:28:09.140 you know when we're when we're young

01:28:11.780 i mean it we live way better lives we get to party on yacht like think about it a woman that 0.97

01:28:19.280 gets flown out to dubai to party with billionaires on a yacht that is cooler than anything her high

01:28:24.700 school boyfriend could provide to her now you could say it's less fulfilling right 0.90

01:28:28.540 but let's just be honest here that's pretty fucking cool

01:28:33.560 so when you're we're young that's what's better you know but when we're old it's not that people 0.80

01:28:43.140 do what's better for them so if everyone's making a choice that means it's like better for them

01:28:48.140 at the time most people don't think long term

01:28:51.200 so all in how they're dealing with that but i didn't i didn't deal with it well when i was at

01:29:00.140 work i felt like i should be at home and i was missing my kids and like i was really failing on

01:29:04.940 the home front and when i was at home i felt like i should be giving more to work and i felt

01:29:09.020 constantly torn and that's something i hear from pretty much every woman i talk to who has kids

01:29:14.300 and a job yeah i mean that's what they say um skeptical pearl comes in right skeptical pearl

01:29:22.620 um i think they just like the status of the job more than their kids

01:29:31.320 and they don't listen to their husband that tells them to stop spending so now they need two jobs

01:29:37.880 because they're living in a neighborhood like every like person i know they kind of picked

01:29:44.340 where they live because the wife wanted to live there and they're like fighting to pay the

01:29:49.640 mortgage because the wife wanted this giant house they couldn't afford you know I mean some women 1.00

01:29:57.000 it's Dubai I used to be in London so in London like they'd get flown to Dubai but I mean it could

01:30:02.540 be Miami so yeah it's about it's about it's women with control issues I really don't think it's 1.00

01:30:11.300 money a lot of them it's really tough that you I think if they get put the men in charge of the

01:30:15.920 budget. They could figure out a way to make it work. Maybe the woman would work for it part time. 1.00

01:30:21.900 You know. Always feel like you're not able to give enough to each thing. You just can't spread

01:30:31.740 yourself that thin all the time. And I think it's bad advice. I think we give women backwards 0.99

01:30:35.700 advice. I think we tell them, spend all your fertile years, all your youth, building a career,

01:30:42.180 going to school and building a career then by the time you're like 30 35 and you're you've got all

01:30:47.860 that established then you can think about getting married and having kids well by then you better

01:30:54.500 find somebody quick and get on it because you got a handful of years left yeah you know and

01:30:58.980 you might need ivf and all these other things and a lot of women struggle yeah well women only care 1.00

01:31:04.980 about having one kid so and it's one of the it's actually nobody wants to talk about this this is

01:31:14.260 the conversation no one's ready for women's access to higher education is the number one correlate 1.00

01:31:20.180 around the world regardless regardless of economics race culture status anything to

01:31:27.780 falling birth rates wow so it turns out that when you push young women yeah um but it's because 1.00

01:31:35.620 it's the hypergamy starts so women are always like they're always looking for the highest status guy 1.00

01:31:43.780 so it starts in college and they move to the city now they're looking for the highest status guy in

01:31:47.300 the city and it just never ends um you know that it's education career education career

01:32:01.460 because why why do we tell them that otherwise you're at the mercy of a man and he'll abuse you

01:32:06.420 he'll take advantage he knows that you depend on him so you've got to do that if you feel a little

01:32:11.140 off it's okay it's february everybody feels a little off in february it's darker it's colder

01:32:16.740 you probably already gave up on some new year's resolutions but you don't have to wait till

01:32:21.060 spring to get yourself right again it all starts with making okay hold up

01:32:29.380 for a lot of people to get by on one income yes it is but have you ever asked why that is

01:32:35.940 uh i have but i'd love to talk about it so prior to the 1970s we had five percent of

01:32:43.860 mothers with school-aged kids working outside the home and for all of human history even during the 0.61

01:32:50.260 industrial revolution you know 17 18 1900s like you said in the 40s and 50s you could be a janitor

01:32:57.380 and support a family and have four kids yeah it's all right feminism essentially gave women 1.00

01:33:03.220 credit cards and the ability to make their own decisions challenges um

01:33:08.420 um the the challenge is um we make terrible decisions so we just keep spending money when

01:33:17.680 we keep spending money everybody can raise the price of everything so it'll just keep getting

01:33:23.000 worse on one end to do stuff yourself and something shifted in the 1970s and it's never

01:33:28.500 shifted back so it can't be like how the stock market's doing it can't really be like all these

01:33:34.240 other independent economic factors that have shifted and changed what do you think it is

01:33:38.380 uh you said it's blaming women in the workforce for wage stagnation 0.95

01:33:42.320 well i'm interested what do you think it is been so different over the course of the last 50 years

01:33:50.260 the one big thing that we changed is we pushed women into college and into the workforce and by 0.99

01:33:57.480 the 1980s they were on par with men in workforce workforce participation so in the span of about

01:34:05.080 20 years we almost doubled the labor force by pushing all the women in and men's wages have 0.99

01:34:11.280 never recovered so now you i mean i think it's just she's probably saying the same thing i think

01:34:17.700 i don't think it's like the women are coming in and being productive i think it's just now the 1.00

01:34:23.440 men have to pay for the women to do nothing you know we're stuck in a two-income trap where even 1.00

01:34:31.520 women who want to stay home and even dads who would love to have their wife home with their kids 1.00

01:34:35.160 it's really tough so why did women entering the workforce keep men's wages stable or keep them 1.00

01:34:42.220 from going up along with the in with the inflation it really fundamentally changed the economy i have

01:34:48.540 friend named aaron clary who wrote a book about the about this um it's an analysis of what he

01:34:53.500 calls a female-based economy where it's more consumer driven uh women are like responsible 1.00

01:34:59.260 for 80 of consumer spending and now that they're all educated and in the job market we have a lot

01:35:04.540 more of things like hr departments psychology sociology like um once more once there was more

01:35:13.500 coming into the home you could buy bigger appliances you could buy bigger homes

01:35:16.700 uh what she's referring to is a 1 000 square foot two-bedroom house with four kids in it

01:35:22.540 is that is that what the size of a house used to be

01:35:28.780 you know what i'm gonna ask my dad hold on one second

01:35:36.780 i want to ask him he grew up with 13 kids i want to know how big his house was

01:35:41.820 because he's old

01:35:44.660 hey just really quick question how big was your house growing up how many square feet

01:36:00.220 okay can you text me the answer bye we're gonna get a tie he's at a basketball game i guess it's

01:36:11.500 going into overtime. No, I'm not going to put them on speaker. My dad hates the internet.

01:36:17.240 The economy shifted away from being like manufacturing and production and more

01:36:20.940 male-dominated things to we have all these women coming out of university. And what do they get 1.00

01:36:27.200 degrees in? I think 80% of psychology degrees are earned by women. And then despite all our efforts 0.98

01:36:33.760 to push women into STEM, they're still like maybe 20% of STEM degrees. So we have all these very 0.99

01:36:40.980 educated women and we have a lot of kind of fluffy jobs like office jobs hr jobs social media 1.00

01:36:47.300 managers uh and mostly women do a lot of the same things they used to do in the home so they're 1.00

01:36:53.940 nurses they're early childhood educators they're retail workers they're cooks they're um they're

01:37:00.020 housekeepers they're doing a lot of the stuff they used to do which uh the marxist feminists called 1.00

01:37:06.020 unpaid labor right this is the myth of women's unpaid labor so instead of cleaning your own 1.00

01:37:11.540 house educating your own children cooking meals for your family maybe for your your parents or

01:37:17.220 grandparents who can't cook for themselves all the things we used to do for our own family

01:37:20.820 clerical workbook keeping for your husband's business things like that we're doing those

01:37:25.620 things for corporations so that and and this was kind of by design uh a lot of the book is about

01:37:32.500 the fact that there were people who pushed feminism and it wasn't because women were oppressed and

01:37:38.580 they cared about the position of women necessarily it's because the same people who pushed you know

01:37:43.620 the 19th amendment and pushed progressivism and feminism were the same people who drafted the 0.92

01:37:50.180 federal reserve legislation came up with the income tax came up with the compulsory education system

01:37:55.860 and especially on the marxist side they they pushed feminism because they said if we can

01:38:02.320 push mothers and women into the workforce and we double the workforce i don't like this okay 0.99

01:38:08.200 i just i don't like this view of history and i gotta disagree i don't think anybody pushed women

01:38:14.200 i think they saw hey women hate their husbands how can i make money off of this oh we can have

01:38:23.620 the guy and then they probably noticed that when a girl was in the office um that the men there was

01:38:31.060 some benefit maybe they got to bang the girl in the office or something they're like all right now

01:38:34.960 now my employees get poonanny it definitely wasn't working though i i can't i just can't

01:38:40.760 imagine a world where women like successfully work and do things um so i just can't imagine 1.00

01:38:47.920 And they were like, you could pay a man double and he will get more done than a woman paid half. 0.86

01:38:54.520 Do you know what I mean?

01:38:56.600 I don't know.

01:38:58.840 Your dad never took you to any of the places he lived.

01:39:02.220 Do you know what?

01:39:02.780 I remember I saw the house when I was a kid, but it was so worn down.

01:39:07.860 And I haven't seen the house in so long.

01:39:11.340 I don't think I really had a concept of how big it was.

01:39:16.380 Workers of the world unite.

01:39:17.920 know what i'm saying so it's like we have this huge workforce and through the university systems

01:39:22.640 we can kind of propagandize the young women to be socialists and to be marxists because they kind of 0.97

01:39:27.600 tend that way anyway the way that women's brains work is very like communitarian for a reason we're 1.00

01:39:33.040 moms you know so it's very easy to radicalize and this isn't yeah okay i hear this a lot the

01:39:38.480 rockefeller lobbied a lot to brainwash women into leaving the house into the workforce 1.00

01:39:43.520 um what do you mean lobbied like okay they they showed them some ads

01:39:49.740 like people ads don't work on you if you're not interested in it like okay i'll give you an 0.95

01:39:57.600 example the worst part of me is food i have it in me to be a 300 pound fucking whale i have it in 0.99

01:40:07.240 me, right? It's literally in my soul. I could be fat. So if someone put an ad for chocolate cake 0.99

01:40:15.260 in front of me, even though I know it's wrong, right? It would totally work on me. You can catch

01:40:21.160 me buying the chocolate and I would have to actively fight against my nature to not eat

01:40:26.580 that chocolate cake. That's like women and fucking a lot of dudes and not leaving their husbands, 1.00

01:40:30.920 right? 0.99

01:40:37.240 it was the rockefellers they tricked them the stem ads didn't work on women it is choice and 1.00

01:40:42.440 free will yeah i really don't like i don't like this narrative that women are brainwashed i will

01:40:50.400 fight i think that's what i'll fight harder than anything that brain women are brainwashed into 1.00

01:40:54.400 shit i think women say that because it helps us rationalize our poor decisions 1.00

01:40:58.760 like if i gluck gluck 9 000 which i have do you know what i mean i've i've done a gluck gluck before 0.99

01:41:05.820 uh I shouldn't say that um it's way easier if I could look back and just say yeah the

01:41:13.240 Jews brainwashed me into doing that like do you know what I mean it would just be oh 1.00

01:41:21.240 oh yeah I was brainwashed oh I was like

01:41:31.500 yeah the the rockefellers made me do it oh yeah you know

01:41:44.980 my opinion like i go over in the book how you can just read the writings of these people

01:41:52.040 and they tell you august babel alexander colontai margaret fuller like all these

01:41:56.660 early 1800s writers were saying we need to get women away from the home and away from being 1.00

01:42:03.620 mothers and push them into the workplace because then we can politicize them we can motivate them 1.00

01:42:09.100 into becoming revolutionaries and that's how we'll get the numbers to make this work yeah but again

01:42:15.240 that was a great analogy um financial frontier um we can't brainwash women into doing stem 1.00

01:42:23.500 that's not working like you could say um yeah mud sharking is brainwashing 1.00

01:42:33.560 do you know how stupid groypers sound when they say that do you know dumb you guys sound 1.00

01:42:38.160 like do you know how stupid that sounds no and i remember um leonarda came on my show 1.00

01:42:50.500 and she was talking about how women are brainwashed into dating black guys and i'm like 1.00

01:42:57.720 how convenient after you dated the black guy 0.71

01:43:00.880 i'm like that's so convenient that's a real i'm like it's because they're attractive in some way 0.97

01:43:10.360 maybe it's the thug maybe it's they got more time than the white guys so they got a little 0.99

01:43:15.200 bit more sauce right the white guys are working so um yeah you know i mean that just sounds stupid 1.00

01:43:30.680 it's you know 0.99

01:43:31.680 women aren't brainwashed into shit women do what we want to do 1.00

01:43:39.180 wow yeah so now instead of staying home with your kids and doing all these things for your family 1.00

01:43:49.360 for your community you're doing them for a corporation and you're paying income tax you're

01:43:54.300 paying all the other taxes associated with having to work outside the home gas tax because you're

01:43:59.000 driving back and forth to work um payroll taxes all that kind of stuff and you are away from your

01:44:06.820 kids all day where do they go they go to public schools because women don't want to be moms 1.00

01:44:11.200 women don't if women wanted to be moms um if my mom wanted to be a mom she wouldn't have given me 1.00

01:44:17.500 to a nanny do you know what I mean like it's like most mothers do not want to be mothers they want 0.97

01:44:23.560 to be girl bosses they would rather pretend to be men than be mothers you know where the public 0.98

01:44:30.880 school system then can dictate to them what the values should be uh how you know the what the

01:44:37.760 world view should be instead of the parents yeah it just makes you wonder like there's all these

01:44:46.560 giant shifts in culture and it makes you wonder what um they want to be moms with the right kind

01:44:54.160 of dude so let's be real you can sell yourself that hope but tom brady couldn't keep his in

01:44:59.440 line what more do you want what would we look like if that had never taken place well that's

01:45:06.320 so you asked like how why did i start writing about this that's why because i had like an aha

01:45:11.120 moment where i realized feminism is far and away like it's not even close it's the biggest social 1.00

01:45:19.040 revolution in all of human history and it happened in one century we took the whole social order

01:45:25.600 that was in every culture around the world for all of the rest of time that's recorded

01:45:31.440 and we flipped it upside down and completely changed it in one century everything about your

01:45:36.880 life is different now because of feminism in ways that you don't even think about you know the way 1.00

01:45:42.720 that you act in the workplace the the way that legislation works the way that school systems

01:45:49.840 work like every single thing about life has changed as a downstream result of feminism and 1.00

01:45:55.680 pushing this model of women's equality which it's really not it's really not about equality and all

01:46:01.600 you have to do is read all the first everybody thinks first wave was just oh they just wanted

01:46:06.080 rights they just wanted a few rights that was good you know and the average person would say yeah i

01:46:11.760 think that that was good but that's because they don't know the real history and the reason they

01:46:15.920 don't know the real history is because when they invented gender studies and women's studies which 0.97

01:46:21.680 were created by the ford foundation with some help from the rockefellers and the carnegies 1.00

01:46:26.400 uh in the late 60s they literally rewrote the history of how women's suffrage happened

01:46:33.440 so there's a professor named joseph miller who did an examination of 12 the main 12 textbooks

01:46:39.360 that are most commonly used in all the western universities to teach women's history yeah but 1.00

01:46:44.960 remember women are the customers so um if women didn't eat that right up 1.00

01:46:53.120 like do you really think if they put in real history women wouldn't stop going to those 0.58

01:46:57.520 schools they make it more and more fluffed because they need to get more customers it's

01:47:02.240 the same reason they they're teaching less and less because why would they teach women things 0.99

01:47:06.880 that make them feel icky if that's the customer you know and he's not even like a right winger

01:47:12.960 he's like a liberal college professor but when he looked and examined those 12 textbooks

01:47:18.880 and compared them to the actual writings thank you newspaper articles writings of feminists 1.00

01:47:24.240 themselves public debates held between suffrages thank you you're doing better than these other

01:47:29.360 super chatters 10 but the other guy it's like a dollar all right tom brady gives us hella sus

01:47:37.680 vibes that's probably why she took the money she knew well all right it's an anti-suffragist 1.00

01:47:46.240 all of the writings of anti-suffragist groups which far outnumbered pro-suffragist groups he

01:47:51.760 found that they left out huge chunks of what really happened or intentionally misrepresented

01:47:58.480 what actually happened on purpose to kind of sell feminism as something different than what it what 1.00

01:48:06.240 it really was so what did they leave out so the most important thing they left out was that women 1.00

01:48:10.960 did not want women's liberation they were yes everybody yeah but uh this is the problem it's 0.52

01:48:18.480 gonna be a poll right the women said they didn't want liberation but the second they got the choice 0.98

01:48:24.400 what'd they do i don't know why i'm getting yeah that that's what they did assumes and believes

01:48:32.160 that it was a grassroots thing that women kind of looked around in the 19th century and they went,

01:48:38.100 you know, we're oppressed. We don't have any rights. I wish I could work. I wish I could get

01:48:43.200 away from my bastard husband who drinks me, drinks and beats me. I need, I need rights. I need a bank 1.00

01:48:50.100 account. I need credit cards. I want to go to university. And they marched and they picketed

01:48:54.140 until they had voting rights and inequality in the workplace. That's the story everyone's heard.

01:49:00.580 And it's not correct at all. In fact, it's the opposite. So this is hilarious. So we had this big fight in the late 1800s between pro-suffrage groups and anti-suffrage groups. Most women in the United States and England, if they were a member of either, they far outnumbered by joining the anti-suffrage groups. They were very much against it. It was only a small minority.

01:49:27.160 yeah but sorry we're 100 years later women picked it you know it's just tough because 1.00

01:49:35.000 you know they say you know i we go off of choices not words you know

01:49:41.240 if women who were pro-suffrage and these groups would debate because women can say anything 0.78

01:49:47.720 right you can say anything in a debate doesn't mean you do it how feminist are you well what 1.00

01:49:53.080 are your life choices i'm a feminist because i didn't get married young right i didn't get 1.00

01:49:58.520 married young i didn't have stay have kids young i didn't gluck gluck name thousand the same man

01:50:03.320 for life therefore i'm a feminist too because i benefit from the system so does she 1.00

01:50:12.040 because all the women being ruined uh benefits me because i marry later right i'm streaming

01:50:18.440 social media that benefits women right 0.99

01:50:24.680 you know just is what it is publicly they would write pamphlets they would write tracks we have

01:50:28.840 a really good written historical record of what actually happened and women didn't want it they 0.98

01:50:35.480 thought they thought they had a lot of great things going on already that were going to get

01:50:41.240 ruined by suffrage for example here's some let's do a little myth busting people have this idea

01:50:46.280 that prior to the 19th amendment women were denied an education completely untrue some of

01:50:51.560 the first universities in the united states were exclusively female universities and seminaries 0.89

01:50:57.720 and secondary schools more women actually probably had the opportunity to go than men because men 1.00

01:51:03.240 always had to work in the fields in the mines go to war build the infrastructure of the nation work

01:51:08.520 on railroads you know um so women were seen as like well you're going to be teaching the kids 1.00

01:51:14.200 so you should probably do a little extra education whereas jimmy and billy they need to work the farm

01:51:19.880 with dad you know so there was never any law that prohibited women from higher education what 0.89

01:51:26.680 happens what feminists do they rely on framing so they'll say because there weren't co-ed 1.00

01:51:32.120 universities because it was women's universities and then men had separate ones it was mostly um 0.99

01:51:38.280 segregated they'll say women didn't have equal access to education were the better schools 0.99

01:51:44.840 men's schools no in fact i'd say so i guess you could say some there were a handful of ivy league

01:51:51.640 institutions that didn't let women into that's what i mean you could make a stat for anything

01:51:56.440 because it's just like even that the way they put that is so deceptive there's no universities

01:52:04.120 for women it's not equal because they had separate ones certain programs um but it was mostly like 1.00

01:52:12.040 medical stuff things like that and that had already changed before the passage of the 19th

01:52:17.400 amendment women were already being led into ivy league education being allowed to do biology and 0.96

01:52:23.080 and become doctors many of the women in my book who were first wave suffragists had degrees had 1.00

01:52:28.520 educations um the other one is like women weren't allowed to like leave the house they weren't 0.99

01:52:33.640 allowed to you know sex out of wedlock or children out of wedlock oh my gosh it was so terrible but

01:52:39.000 most of the women in my book who were traveling the world promoting women's suffrage had children 0.98

01:52:45.640 out of wedlock had extramarital affairs or multiple sex partners or were even lesbians

01:52:52.520 open lesbians yeah i agree with this um women are free and have accountability they do whatever 0.99

01:52:58.540 they please and the boogeyman is not to blame blame except to their choices and reality or loss

01:53:05.900 see that he's based

01:53:08.020 gotta stop blaming the jews for touring the world making this is where the 1.00

01:53:14.820 honey the groypers they just lose credibility the women are brainwashed into being whores 1.00

01:53:20.620 and mud shot, really? Giving speeches, writing pamphlets and tracts, raising money for the 0.99

01:53:27.060 suffrage movement. Nobody put them in jail. Nobody whipped them. Was there some stigma? Sure. But

01:53:33.020 I don't think that you can argue that stigma against those sort of things equates to

01:53:39.980 oppression of women by the patriarchy. It's always framed that way, but that's not true. 0.98

01:53:45.140 So what year did they pass the 19th Amendment? And the 19th Amendment is what gave women... 1.00

01:53:49.660 20. That gave women the right to vote, right? So there were women that said, I don't want the 1.00

01:53:54.220 right to vote? Yes. In fact, when they... Why wouldn't you just want the right to vote,

01:53:58.960 even keeping a traditional household, like the right to have a say, if it's about the world,

01:54:04.820 it's about the United States, it's about our laws and how we're going to govern?

01:54:08.900 Yeah. So I'll tell you what their reasoning was. They said, we're going to lose a lot of the

01:54:13.920 protection and provision that we currently enjoy. So for example, in the state of New York in the

01:54:18.800 1800s, as a woman entering a marriage, if you had money, if you had an inheritance that came with

01:54:23.760 you when you got married, if your husband cheated on you or left or divorced you, you, he couldn't

01:54:30.680 take any of that. Your inheritance was protected from, you know, your husband leaving and taking

01:54:36.280 it. And only men could be held responsible for debt. And there was some, yeah, that's, they never

01:54:43.700 talk about that it's always so selective like women selectively listen and selectively listen 1.00

01:54:50.020 to the history they like anything called breadwinner laws that the courts it was like a

01:54:55.140 systemic law it wasn't like one specific law it was like a whole legal framework that said look

01:55:00.580 women have to raise kids and be pregnant and have babies hamburgers to the emperor strikes back i 1.00

01:55:07.620 love you pearl i love you too bees so we have to hold men responsible for financially taking care

01:55:17.140 of women and children ten dollars we got a big ball over here so women couldn't be thrown into 1.00

01:55:22.820 a debtor's prison they couldn't be held legally liable for repaying a loan or anything like that

01:55:27.300 they could own property people don't believe that either people believe women couldn't own anything 1.00

01:55:33.060 and the reason they say that is because once you were married you were considered one legal

01:55:37.220 entity but even then a married man in the state of new york in 1800 couldn't sell a property that

01:55:45.540 was owned after he was married without his wife's written consent and the court had to be assured

01:55:50.980 that she was not being like coerced into it so there were already like the anti-suffragists

01:55:56.740 themselves argued we kind of have everything we want you know we we have like most of the benefits

01:56:03.620 of this you know they didn't call it a patriarchy but what we would call it i know but they could

01:56:08.100 say that but still either them or their kids or their kids kids are all lefties now most women 1.00

01:56:15.300 are like insanely left so there's nothing new under the sun so for whatever reason women's 1.00

01:56:22.740 choices are left when left to her own devices and what we naturally want to do like me like i want

01:56:28.740 to be like i want to eat like a 300 pound person i really do uh it's been the fight of my life 0.68

01:56:35.300 trying to overcome this you know that's how women feel about whoring and banging celebrities it's 1.00

01:56:41.780 just something we cannot overcome pay trigger they said we're the primary beneficiaries of this

01:56:47.060 system we have a lot of protections and if you make us equal we're gonna lose those like what

01:56:52.020 if we get drafted what if we have to go do jury duty and hear like the gruesome details of like

01:56:57.380 murders and rapes and things like that it's going to pit the family against each other just with the

01:57:03.300 right to vote yeah just with the right to vote because so why couldn't you keep all those things

01:57:08.420 and just be able to participate well unfortunately they were right so one really good example is the

01:57:14.100 women's temperance movement you guys remember prohibition that was primarily women who pushed

01:57:20.180 for prohibition it was the women's temperance union it was like a christian uh movement to

01:57:25.460 ban alcohol and women didn't have the right to vote but they got prohibition passed which was 0.79

01:57:30.260 huge like it was one of those things that nobody thought was even going to happen and and it

01:57:33.860 happened largely because of their political motivation and the reason that it worked is

01:57:39.780 because they could go to congress or they could go to the senate and say we're not a political

01:57:44.260 voting bloc we have a moral high ground from which to ask for these things because you can't buy our

01:57:50.180 vote you can't you know um like uh offer us things and kind of seduce us into voting for you based on

01:57:58.340 promising us things that we want and they didn't want to lose that because they felt like they had

01:58:02.580 a lot of influence and the things they predicted would happen they the anti-suffragists said

01:58:08.900 you're going to see a lot of divorce you're going to see broken up families because it's going to

01:58:13.300 pit husband and wife against each other just like it did with my parents where you've got

01:58:16.980 you know mom wants to vote for the democrat dad wants to vote for the republican or vice versa

01:58:21.220 now they're fighting about it they want to split they have separate world views um and political

01:58:26.980 interests will be used to drive a wedge between men and women and break up families and then we're 1.00

01:58:32.020 all going to be a bunch of single moms we're all going to have to work like they they live but 1.00

01:58:36.180 women want to be single mothers i don't care what they said in 1920 if we look at women's choices 0.87

01:58:42.420 today we would rather be single mothers than um wives we'd rather be horrors than wives look at

01:58:50.340 our choices really predicted this stuff it's in one whole chapter of the book is dedicated to

01:58:56.180 their arguments how they're not amazing foresight i mean i just would uh ignorantly i would think

01:59:02.580 okay well i think women should have the right to vote they're human beings they live here there's 1.00

01:59:06.580 there's laws that are being like why would that well i think uh one of the problems we have when

01:59:11.700 when we look back at history is the fallacy of presentism.

01:59:14.580 We're looking at it through like our eyes now

01:59:17.260 with all of the presuppositions that we have

01:59:20.120 about the world kind of baked in.

01:59:21.620 And at this time, so in 1920, people don't realize

01:59:26.160 that men had only universally gotten the right to vote

01:59:29.640 very shortly before women got it.

01:59:31.380 So it's because they're incentivized to do so, really.

01:59:36.420 They're incentivized to go into STEM,

01:59:38.420 but they're not doing that.

01:59:41.700 there's a lot of incentive to go into the stem field don't see women doing that 1.00

01:59:49.140 whoring we love doing that the uk uh most men couldn't vote until about 10 years before women

01:59:59.160 got the vote in the uk there was all kinds of restrictions on voting in the united states

02:00:03.800 for men you may have to pay a poll tax you might have to take um a test like a literacy test or a

02:00:11.420 political literacy tests. There might be a religious requirement of some kind. There might

02:00:16.060 be a racial requirement of some kind. There could be all different kinds of restrictions on men

02:00:22.640 voting. You might have to be a property owner. You might have to be a certain age. So there was a lot

02:00:27.280 of men. It wasn't like all men could always vote and no women could ever vote. And at the time of 0.52

02:00:34.740 trying to pass suffrage, there were already a few states in the West that had granted women's 1.00

02:00:39.160 suffrage like Utah and Wyoming. And in Utah is a fun case because it was mostly settled by Mormons 1.00

02:00:45.760 at the time, and they were mostly polygamists. And there was this big fight between the feds

02:00:50.240 and the state of Utah because the feds did not, they were like, this polygamy thing is getting

02:00:54.540 really popular out there and it's going to cause us some problems. And they want to give women the 1.00

02:00:59.680 right to vote. And the Mormons thought if we give women the right to vote, we can keep polygamy 0.54

02:01:04.820 because they're going to vote for it because it's beneficial to them in whatever ways that the LDI

02:01:09.140 church thought it was. The feds were betting on the fact that, nah, I think if we give women the 1.00

02:01:14.340 right to vote, they're going to say no more of this polygamy. So let them have it. Just let them 0.99

02:01:17.740 have it. Well, the feds lost the bet and the Mormon wives kept voting for the polygamy stuff. 1.00

02:01:24.700 The feds didn't like it. So what they did, there was also a little bit of stuff going on with the

02:01:29.720 finances of the LDS church that was a little sus. They passed an amendment or yeah, law through

02:01:35.480 congress in uh 1878 i think i could be wrong on the date to take away women's suffrage they took

02:01:43.160 the vote back from them they said no more voting for you can't do that because you're voting for

02:01:46.920 polygamy yeah and so yeah you see women love polygamy women look at the average husband and

02:01:55.240 think gross oh i can share that guy i'll just i'll be i'll share that guy women in utah had 1.00

02:02:03.240 suffrage granted and then had it removed for 50 years it was from i think it was about 1870 to

02:02:10.280 1920 that they didn't have the right to vote and the anti-suffragists this was a big deal so pro 0.93

02:02:17.240 suffrage women would go to utah and anti-suffrage women would go to utah and they'd talk to the 1.00

02:02:21.160 women and try to because everyone's trying to get them on their side and they kind of found that 1.00

02:02:26.440 like women really didn't want to be involved in politics they felt like we have so much going on 1.00

02:02:31.480 at home yeah i am proud of rachel she's doing great i just have a different a different view on

02:02:37.960 it because women have shown by our choices that we do want to be in politics i might do part two 0.99

02:02:43.320 on this tomorrow if there's a certain time stamp of the interview you guys want me to react to

02:02:50.040 um but sorry i'm kind of losing steam this is later than i usually do you know what recently

02:02:55.880 I've been getting up so early, like naturally. I'm like, am I going to start to be a morning

02:03:01.580 person? I don't know. I've never been a morning person. So I guess we'll see. But okay, guys,

02:03:13.220 let me know what you think in the comments. Like the video if you can. Subscribe to the channel

02:03:17.980 and I'll see you next time.

Pearl - March 03, 2026

Rachel Wilson goes on Joe Rogan

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