Pearl - May 23, 2026


Rise of the NEETS


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00:00:00.000 Men aren't the ones that want remote work. That's women. If anything, men just want the women to 1.00
00:00:04.880 leave them alone. What's up, guys? Welcome to my reaction series. Today, we are reacting to
00:00:10.320 NEATs, which are people that are purposely opting out of the workforce. So let's see what they have
00:00:15.980 to say. Tomorrow, we will be getting the new jobs report for the month of June. According to the May
00:00:21.420 jobs report, unemployment, right around 4%. Generally, unemployment is considered a negative
00:00:26.460 thing, but some young people are opting out of the labor force on purpose. These are called
00:00:31.900 NEATS, and it stands for Not In Employment, Education, or Training. And it's mostly young 0.86
00:00:37.500 men between the ages of 15 to 20. You know, it's so crazy. Women are more unemployed than young
00:00:43.560 men, and yet they created a term for young men that are opting out of the workforce. But women
00:00:48.900 are entering into the sex workforce. So what's worse, you know, and yet they're saying this is 0.99
00:00:53.860 a crisis. I'm like, I don't know. Women selling Poonani at alarmingly high rates and then asking
00:00:59.560 for a ring after is a crisis, you know. Labor economists say this population feels left behind
00:01:06.520 by the economy. For more on this, I'm joined now by Tom Gimbel, founder and board member of LaSalle
00:01:11.720 Network. Good morning to you. Happy 4th of July. How you doing? I'm doing great. And just for your
00:01:17.540 earlier segment, Marnie, I grew up in Highland Park, Illinois, where the tragedy was a couple
00:01:21.900 of years ago and my heart goes out to everybody who's there. Yeah, my heart goes out to you as
00:01:25.860 well and all those impacted. Yeah, what a tragic day. They're finding a great way though to honor
00:01:29.900 those victims today. You know, this term NEAT was new to me and my team as we started to look into
00:01:35.280 this. Is this group of people, they don't desire to work? I mean, what does this actually mean?
00:01:43.260 Well, I think it's a narrative that's being painted, Marnie, by every side that you can
00:01:47.460 imagine just like everything else on on some clickbait stuff to be be honest with you and i
00:01:53.180 think what we have is this demographic of 15 16 to 24 year old primarily males and and i wonder if
00:02:01.960 they're just getting employed in a different way because i have found um that usually when men are
00:02:07.940 doing something contrary contrary to their nature like working um there's a catch and i'm guessing
00:02:14.920 they're employed in other ways like uber eats and somehow it's not registering them as full-time
00:02:20.520 working a lot of finger pointing a lot of i'm the victim and and i think that you know going
00:02:27.160 back i'm 52 years old 35 years ago i would have been in a situation where my dad would have said
00:02:33.160 mow a lawn uh be a caddy at a golf course wait a table it's also that we don't have the discipline
00:02:40.760 for young men um because mothers are raising them so and we've kind of lost that bit of desire to
00:02:49.320 work in in this day and age right i mean yeah it's also because before they would get something out
00:02:55.000 of it a wife a kid and now they get a big fat so yeah i think of myself 20 plus years ago i mean i
00:03:02.600 was i was excited to get my first job right i was like chomping at the bit um why do they feel like
00:03:09.320 they're victims victims of of what exactly right and i think that's where we're at right now is
00:03:14.840 that whether it's 15 to 24 year old males or the the demographic any demographic that says they
00:03:20.200 feel forgotten is we've got historically low unemployment for a continued period of time
00:03:25.400 we're still adding jobs to the economy and walk by any restaurant and see the signs for uh cash
00:03:31.400 register workers or servers or dishwashers and i'm not saying those are the highest level of jobs or
00:03:36.600 with somebody with a college degree once but 15 to 22 year olds don't necessarily have college
00:03:41.400 and also i i think it's deemed um i think it's demotivating if you don't see upward mobility
00:03:48.600 and so when we're looking at this the the question is do you want to work are you falling into this
00:03:53.160 i'm the victim i need flexibility i need remote work yeah so again they're kind of gaslighting men
00:03:59.320 aren't the ones um that want remote work that's women if anything men just want the women to
00:04:03.880 leave them alone i think men men are willing to work but they would just prefer to work without
00:04:08.280 women should only have to work when i want to and i think we've created a little bit of this
00:04:12.680 victimization is if things don't come easy especially to the younger generation then then
00:04:18.280 you don't have to do it right go ahead go ahead no sorry no i just think that's the deterioration
00:04:24.840 that we're dealing with and i think the problem that we have um in major cities and in the country
00:04:29.880 is that no one's willing to stand up and lead and say you know sometimes we need tough love
00:04:33.960 and and when you're a young person working that are looking for work or needing money that's what
00:04:39.720 you do you go get a job and you build up a resume is this a double-edged sword though because i think
00:04:45.000 about work ethic right and when you and i started in our respective fields i mean you you went into
00:04:51.320 work when you were sick you never called off you did 10 times the work you were supposed to do
00:04:55.880 because you wanted to get ahead, you were glad and happy to be there, is part of the responsibility
00:05:00.820 now on employers, are we not setting expectations high enough when we bring on new talent, fresh
00:05:07.180 green talent that this is what we expect of you? Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Well, yeah, okay. You know,
00:05:12.440 there's a few things. Female bosses, female bosses are a curse from hell. That's one issue. 1.00
00:05:18.060 Another issue is going to be they see these hot women just get promotions while they're doing the 1.00
00:05:23.880 job for them. That's going to be an issue. And three, uh, women aren't grateful at all anymore. 1.00
00:05:29.880 So, okay. Now you guys have anything to add if you're in that age demographic, put it in. 0.99
00:05:35.660 My computer froze for a second. I think there used to be an expression, Marty, in your twenties,
00:05:39.780 you, you churn in your thirties, you learn and in your forties, you earn. And, and in the wave of
00:05:45.780 the past 25 years, bull market, like we've never seen people started making so much money in their
00:05:51.240 20s and their 30s, it really changed the dynamic upside down. And so everybody's now two degrees
00:05:57.020 away from somebody who's a millionaire or their sibling or parent is a multimillionaire. And it's
00:06:02.140 crazy. And you're exactly right, is that to get out there and have a work ethic, to know what it
00:06:08.100 means to get up early before the sun comes up, it's not about whether somebody's taking advantage
00:06:13.220 of you, you're not making enough money. We all feel that way sometimes in our career, no matter
00:06:17.720 what level of the spectrum we're on. And the real issue is, do you have the ability to go in
00:06:23.400 and grind it out? Whether you're the CEO, we always talk about CEOs who make so much...
00:06:28.240 Yeah, but like what's in it for men to work hard? Before they got something in return,
00:06:32.760 now they don't. There's plenty that think they're underpaid too. It's not just the fortune 500 ones
00:06:38.960 and they're working 24 seven. And it's the same way management and entry level. You've got to go
00:06:44.680 in crank it out and show that you deserve more whether it's yeah and a lot of times what happens
00:06:50.680 is these guys become high status and they kind of stop relating to the low status men and they
00:06:56.520 also don't see how miserable women make low status men's lives because women will act like two
00:07:02.120 different people have you ever heard of a neat it's the acronym that stands for not in employment 0.99
00:07:08.360 education or training and apparently more and more gen zers are choosing to become one
00:07:13.400 box size linda schmidt breaks it all down well it seems there is a group of people in their 20s
00:07:18.440 around the world who are choosing to do nothing and this group even has its own acronym neat
00:07:25.640 i don't know why it's just crazy they because women choose to do nothing all the time women 0.89
00:07:30.200 do nothing at work women do nothing at home women just are constantly doing nothing or doing 0.97
00:07:34.680 pointless things where men are doing productive things and then when a man decides not to um 0.98
00:07:41.080 they never ask is this a rational response it's always let's shame them for doing it what that
00:07:47.240 stands for is men are rational people usually if they do something not interested in education
00:07:53.480 employment or training it's a motivational issue but career coach barry drexler says
00:08:00.200 it is a small group of people who are choosing not to work get an education or learn a trade
00:08:06.680 He does not believe a recent study claiming that it includes about a quarter of the 20-somethings around the world.
00:08:14.280 No, it is a thing. It's a fringe issue, though. It's not the bulk of the population.
00:08:20.120 I don't think it's a real thing.
00:08:21.560 There is even a debate among experts as to whether NEAT even exists.
00:08:27.840 It's hard to take an average from economies across the globe and draw any conclusions
00:08:33.980 because what might be representative for the United States could be very different from
00:08:38.600 a less developed country, different economies around the world.
00:08:43.280 Human resources expert Gregory Giangrande says the pandemic
00:08:47.060 dramatically changed how people think about work, but most people are still working.
00:08:53.460 There has been this explosion of gig workers, so people who are actually the younger generation
00:09:00.680 who are working for themselves many of them are making money off the books books so when uh they're
00:09:06.360 not motivated to say that they are that they're employed um or in training because then they'd
00:09:12.680 have to report that income and for the small fringe group not interested in working or say they cannot
00:09:18.840 find work unless their parents are supporting them and will continue to support them they can't
00:09:25.000 sustain a life of not making any money linda schmidt fox 5 news yeah again women have been 1.00
00:09:31.580 doing this millennia a lot of feminism is going to be men playing women's women's game and women's 0.59
00:09:36.720 game women's game has always been doing nothing it's like the same reason they say being a mother
00:09:40.860 is the hardest job on the planet when it's not that hard and then men do it and they're like
00:09:44.640 this is amazing i would love to do this job this is what there's like a guy recently who came out 1.00
00:09:50.680 he said i've had every job and this is the best one by far because again um whatever women can
00:09:56.520 do men tend to do better better so let me know what you think in the comments guys like the
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