Pearl - Royce White Joins Pearl Daily to Talk about His Brave Transition!

00:00:00.000 all right what's up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily here on the audacity

00:00:07.760 network i really appreciate you guys tuning in and having a grand old time today i have my

00:00:13.440 coffee which is a venti iced coffee with half and half look it could have been healthier it could

00:00:19.480 have all right i'm not i'm not a perfect person i could be better in a lot of ways so today um i

00:00:25.680 want to talk to you about how I ended up becoming a trans advocate. Yes, I am actually adding pro

00:00:35.360 trans to my platform. Yes, yes. But I wasn't always this way. You know, I was ignorant in a

00:00:42.840 lot of ways. In my youth, I was just very ignorant. I didn't know what I was doing, right? 0.98

00:00:48.740 so when I was young I played volleyball overseas I played volleyball for three years of my life

00:00:57.940 and I thought that it was a woman's sport right and so I'm playing volleyball I'm having a good

00:01:06.080 old time and then there's a tournament I actually wasn't in this tournament to be fair but I was

00:01:10.200 visiting right so I met and there was a bunch of um trans women which are women they are women but

00:01:17.760 at the time, I didn't think they were women, right? So good old me, very confused, very 0.99

00:01:31.540 confused, obviously. I started complaining. And I complained. And, you know, me being

00:01:45.600 ignorant i said that's a man and the director of the tournament um brushed me off and the women

00:01:55.860 at the tournament nobody was backing me up i was by my lonesome and when i did interviews at this 0.95

00:02:02.820 tournament asking if people were okay with it and the women said they were okay with it so you know 0.55

00:02:08.300 it made me go back it made me think and i thought you know if women are pushing for men to beat

00:02:15.440 them up. I mean, women, other women to beat them up. I think I am a trans advocate. 1.00

00:02:28.140 I think I'm a trans advocate. I think I want more trans people in women's sports.

00:02:37.800 now i know what you're thinking but pearl but pearl

00:02:42.300 i thought that you are conservative hey you know i understand that women have pushed for equality

00:02:52.540 right so if anything trans are the are the logical trans women are the logical conclusion of this

00:03:00.960 i want to see more trans women if anything i'm a trans advocate i want to see them taking more 0.76

00:03:07.380 female scholarships. I want to see them taking more women's spots in basketball. I want to see

00:03:14.320 them, um, I want to see them, hold on. I want to see them taking everything. You might as well

00:03:36.280 apply for jobs as a trans woman and get your pay up fellas 1.00

00:03:40.120 yes i can see this

00:03:47.720 conservatives thinks that transgender women are men who just want to women's sports like guys

00:03:56.940 nobody cares about sports that much

00:03:59.100 you know all i'm saying is women said that we are the same

00:04:06.280 so this is the logical conclusion you know we got to give women the freedom that we're asking for

00:04:14.300 and if women are saying that uh trans women are women um so we actually today we're going to have

00:04:20.320 royce roycey white actually come on the show um but you know i wanted to i wanted to give a little

00:04:29.240 monologue before and we're going to interview him about his stunning and brave story but i wanted

00:04:35.180 to react to this when you know all right let's go i don't know if i got your name properly it's

00:04:42.540 is it royce or roysina roysha roysha i'm sorry i'm sorry r-o-y-s-h-k roysha okay and what are 0.77

00:04:54.860 your pronouns roysha i was ignorant i was ignorant i was super ignorant and i should have um 0.52

00:05:01.820 um i shouldn't have been so ignorant by saying roy roycy it's roysha all right my bad 0.87

00:05:09.100 pay me handsome oh okay all right so um now roysha here uh you were a former nba player is that 1.00

00:05:22.060 correct once upon a time yep okay and so can you uh we have a panel here of some trans women

00:05:30.720 and you you identify are you trans or what what and you're trying to join the nw w nba is that

00:05:37.900 correct yeah prospectively the number one draft pick in the 2027 w nba draft i'm a black trans 0.92

00:05:44.440 lesbian pro-life pro-life christian black trans i don't think they should accept you

00:05:49.580 are you on hormones are you on hormones what did you say you guys got one at a time 0.74

00:05:57.940 yeah one question oh my gosh she doesn't like when a lot of people talk at once she wants to 0.74

00:06:06.980 die out with you roysha thank you what what one point go ahead are you trans for chance 0.89

00:06:15.140 like you said you're lesbian is that a group is that a movement no like lesbian like do you date 1.00

00:06:20.500 trans girls too no i only date a female assigned female at birth okay will you date it they've had 0.98

00:06:28.980 also you're irrelevant your career is washed up and that's why you're doing this 0.85

00:06:34.100 i'm sorry what's your name my name is marcy you're you're totally making you're mocking 0.64

00:06:39.300 actual hard-working athletes in the wmba these hard-working women's and it's insulting to them

00:06:43.780 it's insulting to trans people who you're also mocking with your actions what what what'd you 0.76

00:06:47.940 say first you said i'm washed up and irrelevant yes you are that's why you're doing this you're

00:06:51.700 doing it as a stunt life crisis how do you know how do you how do you know who i am if it's irrelevant

00:06:58.580 what i only know about you because you're doing a stunt but this is like a gasp this is like a

00:07:02.340 last gasp of your career that's why you're doing this whoa whoa whoa roysha has a long second 0.62

00:07:07.540 that's that's hate wait a second that's hey that's hate and why are you being transphobic

00:07:13.060 wait wait wait please do not do not disrespect 0.99

00:07:20.260 oh this is so funny black queen like russia okay and secondly you you appear to be white 0.99

00:07:25.780 okay so watch your white privilege yeah uh yeah that's racist bigotry and nazism 0.99

00:07:32.420 and and it's it's it's genocide what you're doing is erasure and you gotta watch your white privilege 0.98

00:07:37.620 and also just uh just because we are doing the call-in if you guys can because we're

00:07:44.740 we're sourcing in the audio uh let roysha conclude her her talk her thoughts

00:07:52.260 fully and then if you want to respond just wait for roy should have finished 0.86

00:07:55.700 um so what's the current can you update us what's the current status what's going on with the wnba

00:08:05.700 the wmba has to make a decision about who they let play in their league the rules and eligibility as

00:08:13.520 many uh sports leagues or professional sports leagues international sports leagues have done

00:08:17.940 in the past um and and right now we've put in a declaration for the 2027 draft we haven't heard

00:08:24.500 back from the wmba about my eligibility status uh if they if they don't make any clear definitive

00:08:31.660 changes to their rules as currently stated then i'm all clear to play in the or participate in

00:08:37.760 the in the league and and obviously the draft and we'll go from there so i hope to be able to play

00:08:42.300 look i'm i'm enjoying being a woman i never 35 years i was born in 1991 i never knew i could be

00:08:48.380 a woman it's been a liberation to find oh this is the funniest thing i've seen why don't you get on

00:09:00.240 hormones excuse me excuse me please let me finish what i'm saying please let roysha don't 0.87

00:09:05.520 don't interrupt don't interrupt other trans that's trans on trans violence 0.94

00:09:14.640 oh my god now she's got beat up don't don't don't don't interrupt 0.87

00:09:22.560 uh violence is crazy i know i is it i've only been transgender for like three weeks the violence

00:09:27.280 i've experienced this out of control yeah you know trans people they experience a lot of discrimination

00:09:36.000 people telling me to commit saying my transition isn't real you know calling me uh the n-word you

00:09:43.920 know i've never been called the n-word as much as since i've transitioned it's crazy yeah why 0.94

00:09:47.680 don't they believe his lived experience you know i get it i was ignorant once too i was ignorant

00:09:55.680 once too and i didn't understand the trans experience the other day someone said um i guess 0.53

00:10:04.480 there's these people and i don't really understand it but i guess there's these gay guys that believe

00:10:09.460 we have to get rid of women in order to advance society so we need to push technological like 0.99

00:10:15.320 artificial wombs and all that bullshit and i thought about it and i'm thinking you know it's 0.99

00:10:20.060 of base because women do kind of ruin everything so like where do i sign up 0.99

00:10:28.460 transgender space more racism than heterosexual black men cisgender black men but but anyway um 0.99

00:10:35.260 you know i'm having a blast being a woman i never knew i could be a woman it's a it's a revelation 0.92

00:10:40.300 it's liberating and to be a black trans lesbian is like you know it's a dream come true there's

00:10:45.500 been a lesbian trapped in me my whole life i never knew until recently groundbreaking

00:10:51.100 i absolutely see you as a woman i want you to know that i see you as a woman because 1.00

00:10:55.340 only a woman would do something this and this club

00:11:02.620 see even trans people see it also guys um if you have a second you can go to the audacity.com

00:11:08.220 and support me here um you can pick you know monthly one time five if you want to donate

00:11:13.420 50 000 just you know click it there i'm just messing like 50 bucks you can't donate to support

00:11:20.140 me because there are a lot of overhead there is a lot of overhead to you know run the channel so

00:11:24.540 if you want go there all right let me finish the clip i absolutely see you a thousand percent

00:11:30.620 girl you go girl you go girl that's my nature and you know that's part of the that's part of

00:11:35.900 the revelation is like i do have a tendency to be sometimes your mind is

00:11:43.420 i do how is he not breaking email i could see it yeah i mean you know if you shave your beard

00:11:55.480 baby you won't be looking so bad i can lend you some makeup i think you could you know

00:11:59.720 thank you thank you for showing my gender thank you for my identity you go girl royce i love the

00:12:05.320 joke and i think you can take it all the way it's good to finally be accepted i thought there was

00:12:09.680 like a some type of requirement surgery i mean you know they say you got it you got to take drugs

00:12:16.640 from big pharma right i mean in one instance they say the drugs from big pharma made lindsey clancy

00:12:22.480 strangler three children then they say you got to get on hormones though in order to be trans 0.99

00:12:26.400 and then they say you got to cut off your your penis i did my transit my doctor 1.00

00:12:31.600 excuse me hold on hold on excuse me let let roy should finish you're such a woman go ahead 1.00

00:12:41.280 oh this is so funny i'm crying 0.99

00:12:47.680 oh my trans affirming thank you my trans affirming doctor told me i could think of my genitalia

00:12:56.800 as nine and a half inches of clitoris so i don't know why i need to be thinking about surgery

00:13:00.560 uh all of these these dressing environments this dress code for transgenders is like

00:13:08.160 why do i need to dress a certain way isn't that cis normative i i don't i wear the wig

00:13:12.400 because i like the wigs my my hetero dead name self pay self uh he's ball-headed right and so 0.58

00:13:19.520 to live as a ball-headed cisgender man for five years is is pretty uh stressful so i just wear

00:13:25.840 the wig because i like having a bit of hair but other than that i don't understand why i have to

00:13:29.760 to dress a certain way to fit the cis normative uh uh you know dress expectations of modern society 1.00

00:13:35.500 i want to see more men doing this look at these bitches know not what they ask for 0.99

00:13:40.460 look at all these women you know women want to be i'm really tired of the term suicidal empathy 1.00

00:13:47.600 because that assumes that women are empathetic and women we don't have empathy to give we only 0.71

00:13:52.760 have hell on earth to give so you're assuming women have empathy right and that it's a good

00:14:00.280 thing but it's not a good thing we we have suicidal i want to be seen as a good person 0.56

00:14:05.400 and we're willing to do anything to be seen as a good person including killing our kids these days

00:14:11.480 so it's not a good thing i don't understand what the requirements are so i'm happy that you're

00:14:15.880 further my gender thank you roysha is very appreciative now uh roysha earlier on in the

00:14:22.280 uh conversation we were discussing uh you know the what's going on with the wnba can you tell

00:14:29.720 us what is their standard for allowing a you know someone who identifies as a woman or trans

00:14:36.440 is it for the wnba is it just self-identification as the rule currently stands as the as the rules

00:14:44.520 read right now self-identification is the only requirement so and there's no requirement for

00:14:50.040 like hormones or any sort of other transition besides just self-identification well i mean

00:14:58.280 you know what are rules rules are to be to be bending oh my god bent and broken and changed

00:15:10.200 on the fly selective we can change rules as we go so i'm sure they'll try and do some of that but as

00:15:15.160 it currently reads self-identification is within the scope of womanhood and i mean what could be

00:15:20.280 more what could be more diverse and inclusionary uh inclusive than a beautiful black trans lesbian

00:15:27.000 like me i'm black i'm norwegian i'm mexican and i'm a transgender lesbian i think i'm the you know the

00:15:34.280 epitome of diversity diversity i should be included you know and black trans lesbians

00:15:39.720 first of all we've always we have we imagine the discrimination he's going through you know 0.95

00:15:50.520 i was ignorant in the past i was ignorant in the past i just didn't know about the black trans 0.93

00:15:58.200 experience but now that i'm getting educated i think these guys should dunk on these women i i 0.99

00:16:05.080 i think these trans the trans lesbians should get together and just start dunking on these hoes 0.99

00:16:11.560 duncan we've always mattered we have a right to exist uh uh we've always existed and we have a 0.99

00:16:20.200 right to participate and be included i'm glad you part you know included me in the participation

00:16:24.440 tonight so thank you of course you're one of the few platforms way more inclusive than uh than cnn

00:16:29.560 cnn canceled me cnn told me that they wanted to do an interview they want to interview roysha we

00:16:34.040 got to game day about an hour out and they canceled they had oh my god this is the funniest thing

00:16:44.040 that's been on the internet in so long what's bigger in the news than roysha miss mrs irrelevant

00:16:49.720 herself nothing you're welcome here sister um and so uh oh i i had a uh oh you you're also

00:16:59.400 you have political ambitions too right you're running for uh for office first black trans 0.89

00:17:06.680 lesbian for president and i hope to have all these fellow trans uh uh uh you know citizens

00:17:12.760 here at the at the table with you have their vote on the on the basis of inclusion and diversity 0.99

00:17:17.080 alone would you guys if he ran for political office he just misgendered her yeah how dare

00:17:23.320 you misgender royce it's okay i'm almost very lenient can you guys imagine because he's tall

00:17:41.320 right so just imagine him and just dunking on these here's the thing too a lot of male athletes

00:17:49.680 me and Doug MPA were talking about this earlier there's a lot of male athletes overseas

00:17:54.720 um that are making pennies and the WNBA makes more than them so if they start following trend

00:18:02.580 and going into the WNBA we could see the end of the WNBA which would be hilarious 0.83

00:18:09.400 that would be so i would pay so much money i swear to god this could revive the wnba because 0.93

00:18:16.540 i would pay so much money to watch the trans the trans women dunk on these because they're so 1.00

00:18:24.500 spoiled right they constantly are complaining they're not getting enough money that they're 1.00

00:18:28.620 held back in life or blah blah blah blah blah and they've just become brats um i want them to put me 1.00

00:18:36.080 on a panel with a bunch of women athletes and just tell them they deserve less money

00:18:41.760 you just said that was an act of violence you've changed your opinion so far see violence is all

00:18:48.580 about the tone and the intention and and every individual has the right to determine the tone

00:18:53.880 and intention for themselves well i think i didn't take this i didn't take his misgendering as

00:18:58.520 malicious i took your tone your your white your white privilege tone as as a little bit

00:19:05.180 uh attacking i felt attacked roysha didn't like the tone of white privilege coming out you're 0.61

00:19:10.860 such a sensitive woman i can see that and i can really i was sensitive as a man i was sensitive

00:19:15.580 as a cis normative uh a hetero heterosexual man i think that actually i think i'm a little less

00:19:21.180 sensitive as because i roysha goes through way more uh vitriol and and uh you know dead naming

00:19:28.220 and all these things they're not affirming my gender so you know roysha's roys is a little bit

00:19:33.020 more all right all right guys so uh today we have a special guest um we have the woman herself

00:19:41.980 the stunning and brave um hero some would say a hero right i think that's that's the word uh

00:19:50.380 roysha welcome to the show thanks for having me it's an honor i want to first say um how has

00:19:57.980 your transition been going as well as expected i mean i haven't i haven't conceded any hormones

00:20:09.500 so it's going off without a hitch i'm having a blast being a woman is liberating it's uh

00:20:17.100 it's everything i could have hoped for um they're saying there's an echo oh is there an echo on my

00:20:24.300 um let me see okay echo cancellation produce oh wait yeah that's what you're saying um

00:20:43.980 here we go try now we got some test

00:20:47.820 should we do it on my phone what do you mean

00:20:55.020 do it on my side

00:20:58.320 the volume's better but that was louder but still neck i don't know why

00:21:10.440 huh because it's okay on my side the

00:21:13.320 yeah you can you can come in if you want it's okay um

00:21:43.320 yeah yeah no we're good but I can hear

00:21:56.180 the echo is on my side so maybe

00:22:10.080 let me see if it's me

00:22:13.680 try try now test i can't hear myself anymore can you hear me yeah i can hear you oh we're good

00:22:34.480 then but yeah well that's what i think i can hear you fine but the the chat is saying it's echoing

00:22:39.780 is it still echoing um now it's good they're saying okay here we go all right so welcome

00:22:46.320 to the show roysha what are your pronouns uh pay me handsome pay me handsome pay me handsome yeah

00:22:54.100 sometimes my my verbs and my nouns identify as pronouns too so that's just part of the

00:22:59.300 the benefits of being a beautiful black trans lesbian and what um what motivated you to um 0.97

00:23:06.340 come up with those pronouns is that big is that a stab at the unequal pay for black trans lesbians

00:23:14.420 well it's dual and multi-purpose yeah and honestly it just kind of spontaneously popped into my head

00:23:20.340 just so happens that all women are kind of spiritually connected in the oppression of

00:23:25.060 the patriarchy that obviously i would i would innuendo at the pay gap right i mean that just 0.75

00:23:30.180 kind is in the in the underlying spirit of becoming a woman in womanhood the pay gap is

00:23:34.980 the most important issue yeah and that's really brave of you honestly um thank you how has it been

00:23:40.740 dealing with the discrimination i mean i just saw you um be violently attacked by your own people

00:23:46.980 right your own brutal you would think they would be the ones supporting you well i thought it was 0.95

00:23:53.380 rough as a black republican or black maga candidate black maga commentator podcaster 0.99

00:23:58.740 there's really no place for a black trans lesbian queen i'm just kind of out there in the wilderness 0.97

00:24:05.200 on my own i thought there'd be a community there to embrace me support me bring me in make me feel

00:24:10.700 at home make me feel like i'm one of them uh it's been everything but i've had transgenders

00:24:15.620 threaten to kill me call me the n-word um you know deny my my gender identity and my my sexuality 0.98

00:24:22.740 you know common trope right now is that you're actually a heterosexual homosexual you're a 0.97

00:24:29.600 cisgender homosexual i'm not i'm a transgender lesbian a difference with distinction and a very

00:24:35.160 important distinction so it's it's it's been a journey it's been a roller coaster but i'm

00:24:39.580 i'm hanging in there yeah um i'm looking good i'm looking good so that always helps yeah you're

00:24:46.660 looking great every time i pass a mirror i just remember a lot of these people are just jealous

00:24:50.720 because they you know they hate me because they ain't me right right so um how has the how is the

00:24:58.160 transition you know you've said they were calling you the n-word would you say the vitriol is worse

00:25:03.200 now than it was before even though i mean you're a part of a protected class i would think but they

00:25:09.360 don't seem to want to protect you from anything i'm a part of multiple protected classes you know

00:25:14.720 I'm black, Spanish, I'm Mexican, Hispanic, Norwegian, and I'm a black trans lesbian.

00:25:22.420 And yeah, there's no protection out here. 1.00

00:25:24.460 There's not a safe space for Roysha.

00:25:26.020 Roysha is bereft of safe space.

00:25:30.180 And I'm still looking.

00:25:31.540 It's a journey.

00:25:33.380 There are a lot of journeys unfolding for me right now in my personal life in this transition.

00:25:38.520 The hair is a journey, and it's a hassle.

00:25:40.500 I have a newfound respect for people assigned female at birth. 1.00

00:25:44.720 because the the hassle of having long hair it's it's hot it's it's hard to keep out of your face

00:25:50.280 so even that's a form of systemic oppression that men have really waged against women since time

00:25:57.200 immemorial i mean the for men to gawk and cat call women for their beauty does not take into

00:26:04.040 account just how hard it is for a woman to deal with the hardship of having long hair that's true

00:26:09.260 it's very difficult like have you been how's the curling iron the you know have you have you

00:26:15.320 experimented with moose at all no i'm i'm more so just thinking about different styles of wigs

00:26:21.580 although this one has been successful i get a lot of compliments and i like this one this one was

00:26:28.280 only 1999 so it's economical you know i'm a somewhat of a fiscal conservative and i'm real

00:26:33.940 economical about my wig purchases so i don't want to get crazy into these 700 thousand dollar wigs

00:26:40.020 this was 1999 and it's it's doing me wonders uh it's been great so far but i'm looking at some

00:26:45.460 other things like some braids or bob or they're you know maybe some different colors so we'll see

00:26:50.580 what happens well so since you've transitioned obviously women spend more money than men so have

00:26:56.420 you have you started doing girl math yeah that that part of the transition hasn't happened for

00:27:03.060 me yet uh hopefully it will i'm still still doing guy math but uh yeah girl math tends to be a

00:27:10.260 little bit more a little bit more uh lenient right so maybe i should maybe i should maybe you can

00:27:16.980 teach me you probably wouldn't be a good person to teach me you tend to be on the on the more uh

00:27:23.300 the more traditional side of of femininity so so how have you dealt with the male gaze you know

00:27:30.820 the oppression of you know men looking at you all the time obviously you mog right so you know that's

00:27:38.580 gonna attract a lot of male attention how have you dealt with that to be honest i don't see it

00:27:45.780 i don't i don't know what women are are talking about in that regard i get a lot of female

00:27:51.140 attention still a lot a lot of women taking notice of the wig of the evolution of identity

00:27:57.620 and they still want to date me you know i'm still getting uh offers to go on dates and things like

00:28:03.220 that so the wig hasn't hurt me in the in the sexual romantic department but men i'm not

00:28:08.580 noticing an uptick in in attention from men i'm really not so it's the women that have been

00:28:14.740 objectifying you then oh absolutely and it's it's unprecedented it's out of control

00:28:20.180 i have way more female attention now than i did before the wig which is interesting yeah

00:28:27.620 i can't say i can't say i'm not enjoying it i'm getting to peer into what it's like to be a 0.56

00:28:33.640 lesbian and that's been my dream for a long time there's been a lesbian trapped down

00:28:37.200 trapped deep down inside of me since since i was a wee lad really since you're a wee lad

00:28:42.780 yeah since i was a wee lad yeah so this really is a dream come true you know some people have said

00:28:51.200 that you're a hero for the trans community would you say that's true do you identify as a hero as

00:28:59.840 well you know hero is a strong word i think i'm on the mount rushmore of of transgenders

00:29:09.920 what why are you laughing

00:29:14.320 what do you what are you laughing at

00:29:15.440 i'm not i'm not laughing you know it's just um it's laughable the uh the you know trauma that

00:29:26.260 you've gone through i'm laughing mount rushmore i'm i'm on the mount if there's a if there's a

00:29:30.860 mount rushmore of transgenders you got rupaul number one obviously right and then you got

00:29:37.280 caitlin jenner and next is my my personal favorite and dark horse shanene from the sitcom

00:29:44.940 Martin. Shanene was a character that Martin doubled as and played. She lived across the

00:29:49.940 hallway from Martin in the apartment next door. And Shanene was loud. She was ghetto. She was 1.00

00:29:55.060 brash, but she was really funny. And she was a staple of my childhood. And I look back on my

00:29:59.640 childhood and think, what are the sitcoms? What are the TV shows? What are the cultural bits that

00:30:03.960 really helped shape Roysha? And Martin's obviously right in there. Shanene was a hero of mine

00:30:10.760 growing up and then you got beautiful black queen roysha and right now roysha is the hottest

00:30:15.180 transgender on the internet and i think a lot of transgenders are are jealous honestly yeah i you

00:30:22.080 know when you look at that panel yeah they were totally jealous of you how you look at that panel

00:30:26.440 it's like what are you all so upset about why can't i be a transgender would you rather be

00:30:34.100 known for your looks or your athletic ability as a new fellow hopefully hopefully every uh citizen

00:30:41.320 worth their salt would like to be known for their intellect and their spirit but my looks is uh you

00:30:48.360 know that that's fun that's fun it's always good to get a wink or two from the ladies yeah are you 1.00

00:30:55.200 gonna date more if you make the wnba how are you gonna you know because obviously the women are 1.00

00:31:01.160 objectifying you and so if you're in the wnba you have to share locker rooms that i would hate for 0.92

00:31:07.740 you to be objectified like that you know how are you going to deal with that 1.00

00:31:11.360 well you know as far as sexual objectification goes 1.00

00:31:17.040 i don't mind it i can't say i share you know the the sense of discomfort as many of my my female

00:31:28.300 counterparts in that area I like being the the center of sexual objectification it's fun it's 0.78

00:31:35.880 flattering and I like to and I like to properly you know temper it like to put the proper boundaries

00:31:42.940 around it and I think that's an important important piece of Royce's journey we're finding out a lot

00:31:50.220 about men and women through Royce that's the underlying that's the subtext here it's not even

00:31:54.720 about the WNBA, it's really that we're finally going to have an honest conversation about

00:31:59.880 the true differences, the true nature between men and women.

00:32:05.980 Well, we are equals, right?

00:32:09.360 Well, you know, some would say, some would say. 1.00

00:32:13.840 So if women keep saying that we're equals, I don't see any reason why you can't join 1.00

00:32:19.600 the WNBA. 0.56

00:32:20.420 women are if anything you should be thankful to the women in the wnba they've been fighting for

00:32:27.020 your right to yeah oh i'm standing on their shoulders for sure yeah i mean i'm standing

00:32:33.520 on all their shoulders they're uh yeah i i don't i'm undeserving really of all the the oppression

00:32:41.180 they fought for me to be in this position to even consider becoming a wnba player i mean there

00:32:46.360 wouldn't be a WNBA if it wasn't for all the women who have who have sacrificed so much before me

00:32:51.980 so I my my you know my appreciation obviously I'm in there I'm in their debt so the women

00:32:58.680 in the WNBA that were saying they would be okay with trans women have they reached out to you at

00:33:04.100 all and welcomed your no they haven't no not at all I haven't heard anything from any WNBA

00:33:12.580 players or coaches uh front office folks nothing it's just radio silence i don't understand

00:33:18.920 and you went to a game the other day they were oh they were nice they were nice the the indiana

00:33:24.640 organization was very polite they were very welcoming the president of indiana pacers

00:33:29.420 entertainment i think that's the parent company there in indiana they they duel as the pacers

00:33:34.640 the indiana pacers and fever uh management group she was she was very nice very kind very welcoming

00:33:41.540 So I had a great time at the Indiana Fever game.

00:33:44.160 The Indiana Fever in the Indiana community. 0.97

00:33:46.300 I mean, for a state of people who is allegedly a bunch of racist, homophobic, xenophobic Donald Trump supporters, 0.95

00:33:56.720 man, Indiana surely, Indianapolis surely embraced Queen Rocha with open arms.

00:34:01.760 And is that someone you would be consider you would be OK with being drafted to?

00:34:06.260 That's where Caitlin plays, right?

00:34:08.440 Yes.

00:34:08.840 Yeah, I mean, you'd be like a tag team with her, you know, dream come true, dream come true to be able to play with Caitlin Clark. 1.00

00:34:16.520 She's she's awesome. She's incredible. 0.93

00:34:18.820 Sophie Cunningham, another another tough cookie.

00:34:22.020 And what a looker, by the way, you know, love to take her out to dinner, have a glass of wine or something like that. 1.00

00:34:27.880 She looks like a fun time. So you guys be a power couple.

00:34:31.780 Amen. Amen to that.

00:34:34.000 Yeah. So.

00:34:35.240 so did they talk about drafting prospects at all or did that not that didn't come up

00:34:41.940 because i would imagine you'd be the number one draft pick no well you know there's some argument

00:34:47.580 between myself and enos canter but i'd give myself the nod i'm an american not a turk

00:34:52.480 so you know i'm america first let roy should be clear i'm an america first black trans lesbian

00:34:58.620 yeah they want to know if you've ever experienced postpartum psychosis

00:35:04.240 you know i was i was thinking about that earlier today the number one thing i'm worried about now

00:35:09.660 is pregnancy yeah i can understand that yeah i mean that that's probably given what we're we're 1.00

00:35:17.620 seeing across the country that's probably the most dangerous part of a transgender's journey 0.94

00:35:23.480 is when you finally cross the Rubicon and get pregnant. 1.00

00:35:27.680 So I've been thinking a lot about pregnancy

00:35:29.240 and I'm just, I can't say I'm not super concerned.

00:35:33.620 You know, what happens?

00:35:35.580 What happens when you give birth? 0.93

00:35:38.060 And as a black trans lesbian,

00:35:39.920 am I immune to postpartum psychosis?

00:35:43.500 I don't know.

00:35:44.280 These are questions I think we still have to answer.

00:35:47.420 Yeah, and you talked about on whatever,

00:35:49.120 your decision to not have hormones.

00:35:51.680 Can you talk a little bit more about that decision?

00:35:55.140 Well, I'm in disbelief by people's blind trust in big pharma.

00:36:01.880 Let's say that.

00:36:02.580 I remember a time when the Democrat Party was picket signing big pharmaceutical companies like Eli Lilly for their lack of black labels on psychotropic drugs or antidepressants, for example, SSRIs.

00:36:19.420 which is, by the way, one of the most commonly prescribed drugs in our country, if not the world, and heavily distributed to women, you know, as well.

00:36:30.460 And I just, I don't know what happened.

00:36:32.980 I woke up one morning, we were in a pandemic, and all of a sudden we were supposed to trust the science and the pharmaceutical companies.

00:36:38.900 I still hold that distrust in the pharmaceutical companies pre-pandemic.

00:36:45.040 You know, I grew up in the 90s. I'm a 90s baby, born in 1991.

00:36:48.020 First black person, first black trans lesbian to be endorsed and nominated to run for United States Senate by either major party in the history of Minnesota.

00:36:59.360 First United States Senate nominee to run born in the 1990s and soon to be the first black transgender lesbian presidential candidate in our nation's history.

00:37:10.960 And yet none of the LGBTQ companies are putting you on the front page.

00:37:16.040 not a not a p not a call they don't even have they don't even have a tweet of approval even

00:37:21.440 a tacit sort of you know hey girl we see you you know none of that none of that because you're 0.97

00:37:27.120 black yeah i think i think that's why it's because obviously you know they push the trans stuff 0.70

00:37:32.900 so if they're putting other trans uh women on their websites and giving them money and funding

00:37:41.120 but they're not doing it for you it has to be because it has to be racism you know one could

00:37:47.100 only one could only deduce you look at the pros and cons i mean what would be a better

00:37:52.640 better marketing campaign for some of these woke companies than a merger you know a bridge

00:37:58.440 bridging the gap between the right and the left the political uh discord in our country then the

00:38:04.080 beautiful black trans lesbian like roysha i'm ultra mega but i do embrace my my inner womanhood

00:38:09.620 and and uh i think it'd be a win-win but you know the corporations have yet to call

00:38:14.340 wow has your not holding my breath for the eli lilies of the world you know yeah i can't yeah

00:38:21.300 because they gave that that one trans woman the bud light commercial dylan mulvaney yeah dylan

00:38:28.440 mulvaney they've pushed on everything and i you know with all due respect to dylan i think queen

00:38:34.500 royce is a a bit better looking when it comes to marketability and and uh and you know campaigns 0.68

00:38:41.620 like that ad advertisement campaigns but when a black trans queen you know pushes pushes the

00:38:49.620 boundaries and on top of that an accomplished black trans woman right thank you accomplish 0.93

00:38:57.540 do you think maybe they just want unaccomplished you know they don't want to show that you can be 0.84

00:39:02.900 trans and you can um be successful that's a very very important yeah very good point and so never

00:39:10.180 thought about it that way but yeah we are suffering from a crisis of mediocrity in this country for

00:39:14.900 sure yeah so they want to push all of the trans you know that haven't accomplished much and when 0.89

00:39:21.220 trans queen comes their way and um you know shows that you can be accomplished and um successful

00:39:29.220 and they refuse to put you on the cover of the magazines 0.95

00:39:34.940 like Dylan Mulvaney.

00:39:36.840 Oh, my God, we need this.

00:39:37.780 I haven't gotten a call from Vogue.

00:39:39.840 I haven't gotten any emails to be nominated for Woman of the Year.

00:39:46.120 I honestly think Woman of the Year is a shoe-in. 0.99

00:39:48.960 It's transgender of the decade that would be the award 0.99

00:39:51.720 that really speaks to what's being done here,

00:39:54.240 what's being accomplished, because I'm breaking barriers.

00:39:55.940 And with all due respect to, you know, to RuPaul, Caitlyn Jenner, and the great Shanene, I don't think that they have broken the barriers that Royce is about to break when I step foot on that WNBA court for the first time.

00:40:08.820 This is the first time a transgender will really have crossed over into an elite space in one of our society's prominent institutions like the great WNBA. 0.83

00:40:20.820 It's a historic moment. 0.81

00:40:22.400 It goes against the victimhood narrative.

00:40:24.820 you know they they don't want to see um trans women be so successful yeah yeah i mean you know

00:40:34.660 the hate the hating is is out of control and i didn't know i thought that you when you're on the

00:40:39.700 when you're on the right as a political candidate you look at the left and you see this

00:40:43.700 kind of kumbaya that they do everybody's in love you know love is love love is a choice everybody's

00:40:49.940 in love we all love each other love is abundant you know love love to the 10th power is what it 0.92

00:40:56.460 looks like and then you get over there's nothing but hate i'm over here in the transgender movement

00:41:00.780 i'm a member of the lgbtq community one of the most popular members of the lgbtq community all

00:41:06.060 i get is hate all i get is is vitriol all i get is your wig ain't looking right and and your name

00:41:13.060 ain't trans enough why'd you pick roysha that doesn't sound real feminine uh you know and they 0.99

00:41:18.920 say things like like you said why are you in the hormones when you're gonna cut off your clitoris 0.99

00:41:23.960 and i'm like why are you worried about my clitoris and aren't you allowed to do it on your own 0.97

00:41:30.280 timeline do they not respect your bodily autonomy you know they don't respect your are they saying

00:41:37.460 a real woman can't make her own decisions yeah it's my body my choice unless you're beautiful 0.64

00:41:44.360 black trans queen like russia i gotta do i gotta do things on everybody else's time i have to be 0.95

00:41:49.760 judged and and transitioned by the court of public opinion mainly the wnba i think the wnba really

00:41:56.640 believes they are an authority on my gender on my identity which is absolutely unbelievable and

00:42:03.580 they encouraged you to do it they did do by all of the women in the wnba um they pushed it they

00:42:13.420 said they wanted and were okay with um black trans lesbians joining the wmba and now you're

00:42:19.040 doing it and you're facing this discrimination how do you false advertisement false average i mean 0.76

00:42:25.060 it's entrapment it's false advertisement it's it's cisgender entrapment and the wmba commissioner

00:42:31.120 is a cisgender heterosexual white woman and for her to i mean for her to just deny 0.76

00:42:39.460 my existence is it's genocide it's a genocide it's erasure is what it is this is this is

00:42:46.860 whitewashing america's black trans community uh and kathy engelbert i think is making a great 0.76

00:42:53.180 decision to step down at the end of this season i i can only hope that the big brass in the nba

00:43:00.080 and wnba will choose a successor that's that's a little bit more uh progressive in how they view

00:43:06.600 their place in this nation's history as a cultural cultural institution so you know at one point i

00:43:13.460 was i gotta be honest with you okay yeah i gotta be honest um at one point i was ignorant on this

00:43:20.260 issue you know and i'm not proud of it but you know i played volleyball overseas and at one point

00:43:27.220 i didn't realize that trans women were women you know and so i was very ignorant on the issue

00:43:32.140 um but i've come to an enlightenment right because at the tournament i played in i complained right

00:43:38.780 i was very ignorant i was anti-trans you know um what are what are some descriptors that i i could 0.83

00:43:45.020 say to to describe my my mindset back you you were you were trans bigoted yes i was trans big bigot 0.92

00:43:53.180 yeah yeah um i'm not proud of it you know but i i can be honest about it and thank you so i end up

00:43:59.900 pushing for the trans you know being the bigot i was i pushed for the trans to be kicked out

00:44:06.140 of the tournament and all the other women educated me they educated me they said no 0.90

00:44:12.860 trans women are women and we're okay with them there even if they beat the out of us

00:44:18.620 you know and look at us in the locker rooms and i said oh my bad guys my bad now i'm a trans 0.99

00:44:26.460 advocate and i believe in your right to you know dunk on these hoes thank you yeah you know my 0.95

00:44:35.260 thank you and i realized it was my bigoted opinions from before um that were holding me back so what 0.96

00:44:42.380 do you think i can do to make up for my bigoted self back in the day how can i apologize to the

00:44:49.260 black trans lesbian community for this reparations i think so yeah reparations feel in your audience

00:44:57.800 feel free you know any of those people who were were bigoted before towards black trans lesbians

00:45:03.200 uh feel free to create a gofundme like they did for lindsey clancy i mean lindsey clancy 0.62

00:45:08.380 thinks that she's had it bad she has no clue how bad beautiful black trans lesbians have had it in 1.00

00:45:14.080 this country seriously she's she's not even in the ballpark not even in the arena not even the 1.00

00:45:19.160 same universe the oppression and racism and bigotry that beautiful black trans queens like 0.99

00:45:24.660 roysha face make lindsey clancy's life look like a walk in the sun and i'm sure there's a lot of 1.00

00:45:30.620 beautiful black lesbian queens um trans queens that are in poverty lindsey clancy didn't know 1.00

00:45:36.280 what that was like she had all this stuff paid for you know she didn't look at me you know look 1.00

00:45:41.420 at me i i came up as a you know a son of a single mother she worked a basic blue collar job she was

00:45:47.580 an esthetician and and i have to say you know when i went to my mom's job and i saw those those

00:45:53.160 metrosexual homosexual men or the women doing fingernails every once in a while royce had the 0.68

00:45:58.360 the idea of what it'd be like to get my nails painted even as a wee lad uh but you know i i

00:46:04.200 was i was trapped by cis normative culture cis normative society but yeah i mean we didn't have 0.63

00:46:11.420 it we didn't have it well off my mom was uh you know was a check-to-check type of mom black woman 0.87

00:46:16.820 and uh yeah i just don't understand how they raise a woman three million dollars for strangling her 1.00

00:46:22.160 own kids a million a piece a million for each piece each kid that she strangled unprecedented

00:46:27.680 for sure yeah roysha needs a go fund me too and they nobody's made you a go fund me not one not

00:46:34.740 one i haven't seen one maybe there's one out there i don't know it's not it's not attached

00:46:38.020 to me if there is it's not official um there's a super chat says thank you pearl and roysha for

00:46:45.160 supporting our leo trans black woman identifying heroines i was going to donate 712 but i hope you

00:46:51.940 understand it's 4.99 so there you go every every cent helps it's a journey just like the hair it's 0.71

00:46:59.580 a journey you can never really repair the damage that's been done to black trans lesbians across 0.96

00:47:07.180 the chernel house of history but every every penny counts every penny is a step in the right 0.96

00:47:11.480 directions a direction this isn't about roysha it's about something greater actually it's about

00:47:18.460 black trans lesbians everywhere all over the world are there any other industries you're

00:47:23.720 going to get into have you thought about joining the military or you know just there's a lot i'm 0.97

00:47:28.200 running for president i'm running for president of the united states oh you could be the first

00:47:32.480 female president the first black woman commander-in-chief how are you gonna deal um with

00:47:39.560 having the the nuke button when you get your period i've always wondered this well i'm more

00:47:45.180 worried about being pregnant in my first term but you know i i the nukes i think i'll do pretty well 0.69

00:47:52.000 i'm a pretty i'm a pretty temperate black lesbian to be honest what if you get postpartum psychosis

00:47:56.820 then look out yeah no lookout honestly people gotta look out postpartum psychosis is maybe

00:48:04.900 the most profound uh ailment in our entire society right now it needs to be studied honestly we

00:48:11.220 haven't put enough money in research towards postpartum psychosis obviously it's it's a

00:48:16.660 national crisis so maybe i'll just go on birth control so i don't have to worry about it 1.00

00:48:24.100 do you think there's enough resources for black trans female lesbians offered to 1.00

00:48:29.540 deal with some of the hormonal changes no of course not no look at all these foreign invaders 1.00

00:48:36.100 they're taking our resources oh that's true yeah these foreign invaders are you know you go down 0.99

00:48:41.620 to your city government your city government building municipality and and and there's nothing 1.00

00:48:46.260 but foreigners in there a beautiful black trans lesbian can't even get you know can't even get a 1.00

00:48:51.540 checkup can't even get some some psychiatric care for my you know my nine and a half inch clitoris 1.00

00:48:56.740 You know how, you know how self-conscious you have to be as a, as a black woman to have a nine and a half inch clitoris. 0.99

00:49:03.340 It's, it's a burden. 1.00

00:49:05.540 Right.

00:49:11.020 I can't imagine how you've gone through this awful experience.

00:49:16.800 My co-hosts are going to come in and ask you a few questions.

00:49:20.080 Is that all right?

00:49:20.940 Of course.

00:49:21.680 we have um you know another a black a black guy coming in to ask you some questions and he 0.98

00:49:29.620 understands being a minority hey hey hey king but i've been trying to educate him yeah he does not

00:49:37.020 understand the experience of trans women and i just thought you know maybe you could educate him

00:49:43.380 because you know he just doesn't have the same victim points and i try to explain that but he

00:49:48.320 doesn't always get it right Doug MPA so some people were made for so like example Alexander

00:49:55.800 Graham Bell all these you know Elon Musk they've they've invented these great things they've been

00:50:03.720 they've cemented their place in history it's like they were destined for something great right

00:50:10.820 Is this your defining moment, Roysher?

00:50:16.660 Do you feel like everything in your life has led you to this moment?

00:50:20.800 Is this your precipice?

00:50:22.900 Well, I like to say it like this. 1.00

00:50:25.320 Black, trans, lesbians, we matter. 0.95

00:50:27.500 We've always mattered. 0.61

00:50:29.640 We exist.

00:50:30.960 We've always existed.

00:50:32.020 We have a right to exist.

00:50:34.160 And me, I'm, you know, I am both, I am neither, I am beyond.

00:50:37.900 And I'm unburdened by what has been.

00:50:40.820 I'm unburdened by what has been.

00:50:43.440 I don't know what'll be.

00:50:44.700 I don't know what'll come.

00:50:46.480 But I'm ready.

00:50:47.640 I'm ready to take on the moment.

00:50:50.520 I'm ready to seize the moment.

00:50:54.100 And with all this added stress,

00:50:56.740 I would imagine it's taking a toll on your mental health.

00:51:00.000 I mean, you're staying strong for the cameras.

00:51:02.100 You're staying strong for your community.

00:51:04.280 But how have you dealt with the added stress?

00:51:07.220 Are you going to therapy?

00:51:09.600 are you well i was already bald you know i was already bald as a as a cisgender man i was already 0.96

00:51:16.400 stressed out you know because radical feminists wouldn't vote for me you know they they said that

00:51:21.780 i'm too extreme and and i just conceded i i if you can't beat them join them and now i've joined

00:51:27.580 them and i'm still not good enough so i'd say the stress the stress is you know it it's moderately

00:51:33.720 you know more or less the same you know to be honest i'm i can't tell i i'm not losing any hair

00:51:38.800 You know, because my weave is synthetic.

00:51:42.000 So I don't know what the markers are.

00:51:46.640 I have Terrence.

00:51:47.840 Honestly, I'm sleeping better.

00:51:49.360 Honestly, since I've transitioned publicly, since I've come out as a black trans lesbian, I'm sleeping better at night.

00:51:59.820 So, so, so fast. 0.93

00:52:02.380 and i do comedy to stop suicide and i'm very concerned about the suicide rate of the trans

00:52:09.220 community being roughly 40 before operation and about 38 post-op and you know if i can help you

00:52:18.040 stay on this side of the grass just let me know but there are some warnings that i have to give

00:52:23.060 you like if you get into the wmba because i think you can because feel is real you have to watch out

00:52:30.220 When you dunk because you have to make sure that the whole league has good eye coverage 0.99

00:52:35.440 because you could poke out an eyeball with your nine-inch clitoris. 1.00

00:52:39.680 My clitoris, yeah. 1.00

00:52:41.380 It's dangerous. 0.99

00:52:42.820 And then it's also a kick then that you could trip with.

00:52:45.480 You know what?

00:52:45.960 That's probably part of the reason why they don't want to let me play.

00:52:49.940 Yes. 1.00

00:52:50.840 Yeah, clitoris insurance. 0.67

00:52:52.540 I mean, who's going to insure that? 1.00

00:52:53.860 Who's going to insure? 1.00

00:52:54.740 Well, you could trip and fall into, you know, said vaginas 220 times in a five to seven minute period, purely by accident. 1.00

00:53:02.960 True. 1.00

00:53:03.600 That's not likeable.

00:53:05.180 You know, it's an insurance nightmare. 1.00

00:53:08.060 And I hope that the WNBA isn't such a commoditized, patriarchal institution where money's all that matters.

00:53:16.480 And, you know, inclusion, diversity, equity, these things transcend liability, right?

00:53:23.700 I hope that that's the case because, you know, if if if if a white woman, if one of my fellow queens like the commissioner there doesn't see the value in a beautiful black trans lesbian like Roysha breaking these barriers, she's just as much a part of the patriarchy, the cis normative patriarchy as the men that they all criticize. 0.53

00:53:46.200 Well, I hope you're successful at throwing the flying crossbody cock block in the WNBA and getting in. 0.57

00:53:51.880 I would love that.

00:53:52.420 thank you thank you so so how much would you guys pay for a ticket to watch roysha

00:53:59.700 oh bro all the money in the world a thousand dollars to watch roysha just annihilate um

00:54:08.080 the women in the wnba yes i would pay all the money in the world

00:54:13.120 all the money from from a purely from a purely economic standpoint i think

00:54:18.200 I think the WNBA has a responsibility to their shareholders to pursue this and see just how profitable it could be.

00:54:27.440 I mean, in a world where you have to be, you know, you have to be, let's say, conscious of your shareholders and what's in the best fiscal interest, financial interest, 0.96

00:54:39.080 the fiduciary responsibility here of the WNBA to let Roysha bring in the tickets, bring home the

00:54:44.840 bacon, so to speak, is, is, is the precedent is there. I, I've never seen a more mutually

00:54:53.500 beneficial situation. Exactly. In the WNBA. Exactly. So, so another question. So there have

00:55:00.700 been times like, you know, in the sixties and the seventies when, when black people were breaking

00:55:06.080 down barriers where they would do just enough to be performative but not make a true opportunity

00:55:11.700 are you afraid that you go to the wmba and maybe they wouldn't let you play it would be more yes

00:55:16.860 i think about it all the time yeah no i don't want to be i don't want to be a token i don't 0.70

00:55:22.600 want to be a token of black transgenders uh lesbians you know i want to be i'll let roysha 0.59

00:55:28.480 play that the hashtag the clarion call is to let roysha play uh don't don't bring me in and sit me 1.00

00:55:36.340 on the bench as some symbolic token of your inclusivity no roysha needs to be allowed to

00:55:41.500 play because roysha has the skills to play roysha has the skills that pay the bills roysha dunks a

00:55:46.800 basketball with both hands and and roysha can shoot the deep ball you know she she can shoot

00:55:52.800 the three the long ball roysha is a an incredible passer and i'm a team first kind of gal i mean

00:56:00.400 when push comes to shove i will sacrifice myself for the team and uh i think i i think with all

00:56:06.400 that being said all those chips up on the bar to not let me play is truly discriminatory in every

00:56:11.760 fashion you asked him say organizing a movement of like protesters outside of the wmba um there's

00:56:19.720 girl my comment she said she'd buy a t-shirt that says let roysha play have you thought about

00:56:24.180 selling those and just you know yeah we're working on the merch right now you know i'm i'm not a i'm

00:56:29.880 not doing this for money uh so i haven't even thought about you know really operationalizing

00:56:36.020 roysha as a brand i'd love to do a budweiser campaign i think that would be a a very redemptive

00:56:42.420 thing they let the dylan mulvaney's who are of the left do the bud light deal you know uh and

00:56:48.120 And why don't we get a shot?

00:56:51.000 You know, equality. 1.00

00:56:52.260 We should let a right-wing, beautiful black trans lesbian 1.00

00:56:55.680 be the face of Bud Light for a while. 1.00

00:56:57.920 I bet you they do well in the sales, actually.

00:56:59.780 I think people would probably start buying Bud Light again.

00:57:03.180 But other than that, I haven't really thought too much

00:57:05.660 about how to turn this into a full-blown operation

00:57:09.580 on the merchandise side.

00:57:11.540 Maybe you can help me with that.

00:57:14.540 Yeah, I think we need to start protesting.

00:57:18.120 You know, protests are always good because I would never want to see a black trans lesbian be discriminated against. 0.93

00:57:25.760 And I know when, you know, as a female athlete, when I want to apply or join a league that I'm overqualified for, they give me a tryout.

00:57:36.380 Why have they not given you a try?

00:57:38.420 Even if it's and let's be honest, even if it's midseason.

00:57:41.740 Right.

00:57:42.520 Many times in college where people have transferred in midseason.

00:57:45.700 Yeah.

00:57:46.320 Yeah.

00:57:46.640 for an overqualified player and with your credentials your height um your athletic yeah

00:57:54.340 no as it you bring up an important point as it currently stands i am the most uh valuable free

00:57:59.980 agent on the market in the wmba and and a team could certainly sign me now i mean there's no

00:58:05.360 reason why a team signed players to to 10-day contracts and i don't know if the wmba has 10

00:58:11.020 days or two ways maybe they have three ways you know i'm you know a little innuendo there who

00:58:15.760 knows what's going on behind the scenes but um more or less yeah i could i could hypothetically

00:58:21.640 but theoretically join wmba team tomorrow and i think i could help and i think i think people

00:58:27.720 would come watch honestly i genuinely think people would tune in so i would pay so much money to

00:58:34.900 watch this is one of those rare instances where profit where there's an ideology an ideology

00:58:41.220 that transcends

00:58:43.900 profit, that defies all

00:58:45.620 conventional wisdom about the profit

00:58:47.820 model of a business. It's interesting.

00:58:50.420 It's just an interesting thing

00:58:51.560 to witness.

00:58:53.380 Think about this.

00:58:56.100 They could bring you

00:58:57.760 on now and it would be

00:58:59.740 like a slow

00:59:01.820 landing to the new idea instead of

00:59:03.800 just bringing you on and kind of having

00:59:05.820 it be a sudden thing.

00:59:07.660 The more exposure, the

00:59:09.760 better they could just have a kind of a spokesperson role before the actual season you

00:59:15.260 can go around half this could be a build-up yeah no you know what i think i think it's genius i

00:59:21.900 think what you're saying is actually the way to do it you let me come in mid-season you know and

00:59:26.420 i kind of get people used to the idea and we we sort out all the you know the the problems maybe 0.95

00:59:33.320 with the the locker room environment right because i'm sure there's some women that will have a 1.00

00:59:37.960 problem with with the nine and a half inch clitoris running around in the locker room so 1.00

00:59:41.800 we sort those kinds of problems out we figure out the situation there and you know by playoff time

00:59:47.640 you got a clarion call for Royce to play and the anticipations there by next season preseason

00:59:53.740 you know we're selling out arenas Caitlin Clark you think Caitlin Clark could fill an arena

00:59:58.080 imagine Queen Royce coming down the lane in transition no pun intended and and and dunking 0.98

01:00:03.480 basketball that'd be you know it'd be historic and would you fight for equal pay because obviously 0.95

01:00:09.720 equal pay well wait wait wait wait who wants equal to pay me handsome queen russia is not interested

01:00:16.200 in everybody having equal pay and queen russia uh wants to be paid handsomely well i'm saying 0.98

01:00:22.360 you know that nba makes so much more money and being that you're a black trans lesbian joining 0.61

01:00:27.960 oh oh you mean the pay gap deal a lot and that you know true true in trans women in particular 0.62

01:00:35.200 discriminated against in terms of pay so maybe it'll be time for you to be a spokesperson

01:00:40.200 law law of unintended consequences there yeah not my intent i'm not here to you know i'm not

01:00:46.940 here to claim that i'm all all altruistic yeah i'm a capitalist i'm not a communist trans lesbian

01:00:52.240 I'm a capitalist trans lesbian.

01:00:53.980 So, you know, if if a rising tide raises all boats, fine, fine.

01:01:01.440 If the other women have an improvement of the pay gap because of Royce's presence, that's fine. 1.00

01:01:05.700 But Royce wants to get top tier pay for what I bring to the game. 0.97

01:01:09.180 And I'm going to bring a lot. 0.99

01:01:10.980 So not a lot of lady.

01:01:12.020 I'm bringing a lot of ladywood and I want to be paid handsomely for the ladywood that I bring to the game.

01:01:17.000 And they also are saying they want you on the cover of Sports Illustrated.

01:01:20.160 Would you be body edition?

01:01:21.060 we're working on a body edition we we've sent emails to sports illustrated uh in anticipation

01:01:26.680 that this is uh makes sense for them as a as another uh another outlet another media publication

01:01:33.940 that that seems to value inclusivity uh yeah we're already working on the body edition i gotta lose

01:01:39.780 a few pounds around the midsection i'm you know a few pounds overweight and you know when you become

01:01:44.160 a woman you're self-conscious the world's gonna see your your beautiful naked body you want to

01:01:48.360 be tight you know so i'm in the gym i'm i'm getting back to doing my crunches and just making

01:01:52.740 sure i got the abs right uh for the body edition but it should be coming soon royce's body edition

01:01:58.160 is is hot on the press right now it's coming so when when a new player comes in the league

01:02:04.860 they have this whole oh you know you have to pay your dues throwing all sorts of flagrant fouls

01:02:10.300 and technical fouls and stuff like that how are you going to deal with that because because you

01:02:14.840 know that they're going to be throwing all sorts of fouls your way and all sorts of craziness

01:02:18.700 you know trying to make you pay your dues before you can be great how do you feel about that

01:02:22.600 well i just say this they they get their jock straps ready because uh roysia roysia goes hard

01:02:29.520 in the paint roysia's a a very uh physical basketball player yeah that was part of my

01:02:36.800 uh profile as a male player because i'm very physical i'm very aggressive and i'm very

01:02:44.280 physical i'm nasty i play the game nasty i play the game like it's a war like it's meant to be

01:02:48.980 played you know it's a sports culturally sports is a supplementation of war right and we and we use

01:02:58.340 sports sort of as a euphemism to to play out our our war games our mini war games and i like it

01:03:04.140 that way football basketball baseball is a little softer around the edges but ultimately mma you

01:03:10.580 know i'm a pro mma fighter trained in mixed martial arts and you know that's that's what

01:03:15.720 sports is supposed to be so that's the way roysha likes it roysha likes a physical uh you know blood

01:03:20.920 blood lust out there so what i'm hearing is that you know women have fought for equality and you're

01:03:26.960 not going to treat um the wnba players any different than the nba players because you truly

01:03:33.280 believe in equality and equal rights of course you know equal rights equal lefts for sure hell

01:03:39.100 yeah yeah all equal left yeah you know i i'm glad to be allowed to witness the this moment in history

01:03:48.860 um russia is the hero that we all needed and i'm i'm just glad i i think that this is there is

01:03:57.020 nothing this is only going to end up in a good place and for you willing to be able to be public

01:04:03.260 facing and shoulder this level of hardship adversity for not just you but for others in 0.88

01:04:12.720 your community has to be committed well black people for sure uh black black women and and 0.86

01:04:19.940 the most marginalized of all black trans lesbians right i mean there isn't a more marginalized group 0.97

01:04:25.480 than black trans lesbians. And, and Queen Rocha is, is here to uplift all of those, uh, uh, you 0.52

01:04:33.600 know, BIPOC indigenous, uh, Afro Afro, uh, marginalized groups. And, uh, you know, the

01:04:41.500 sky's the limit, the sky's the limit before, you know, and again, the most important takeaway

01:04:45.540 Queen Rocha for president and people may say, Oh, that's, you know, that's far-fetched. Is it,

01:04:52.160 is it really i don't think so i think i'm i'm i'm much more of a woman a black woman than aoc

01:04:59.760 aoc is not a black woman kamala harris kamala harris is uh yeah black woman at best so i mean 0.92

01:05:08.080 they're gonna have to bring out a real black woman in order to get the nod on the identity politics 1.00

01:05:13.120 uh you know scale do you want to join the democrat party you know because they do

01:05:18.240 do i've been i've been thinking about it a lot i actually have been thinking to to change parties

01:05:24.020 i just don't think they let christians in in the democrat party anymore so that's a valid concern 0.86

01:05:30.320 yeah i think christians are persona non grata even if you're a black trans lesbian so i don't i don't 0.98

01:05:35.940 think i have a home with the democrats are you a born again virgin now that you've um you know 0.99

01:05:41.500 because women do that a lot there's yeah born again virgin but now that you've joined a different

01:05:46.380 gender is that something you identify as i never thought about it that way yeah no i i you know

01:05:54.180 but it's something i'll consider it i mean now that you say it it sounds advantageous for sure 0.56

01:05:59.280 my body count as a woman is zero we got the god on the stick people are all about uh you know

01:06:06.060 do overs and forgiveness so you could probably get in there and do that yeah yeah well you know

01:06:12.740 when it comes to the sexuality piece i'm i'm just i'm just keeping my head down you know royce

01:06:18.160 and i was there for all of royce's romantic uh experiences and and i have to say i'm not

01:06:24.920 encouraged by by royce's experiences i've seen a lot of vicious vindictive behavior from

01:06:30.880 from people assigned female at birth across royce's lifespan and and i was always there 0.99

01:06:36.660 as a voice to say don't trust that bitch you know don't trust that hoe but you know royce 1.00

01:06:41.920 is a misogynist so naturally he didn't listen right he didn't take my opinion seriously and 1.00

01:06:46.840 then one day very recently Julie Tatar popped up over there in Europe and there were rumors that

01:06:53.220 she was you know asked about the WNBA and I came across a mirror in my bathroom and uh I think

01:07:00.380 Royce saw me for the first time I think Royce really saw my face in the mirror and and ever

01:07:06.500 since then about three four weeks now he's decided to let me out into the public let me out into the

01:07:10.900 wild now i'm in control of the ship i'm steering the ship at least half the time i have to take my

01:07:15.680 mental health hiatuses because of all the vitriol but i'm steering the ship at least half the time 0.99

01:07:20.560 and and we're being very watchful let's say for these vindictive hoes out here you can be the 0.98

01:07:26.680 change you want to see in the world amen amen we as we all should so so let's say there's a young 0.99

01:07:33.820 black trans lesbian out there who's afraid to come out afraid to start their journey 0.89

01:07:40.840 yeah what would you say to all the young black trans lesbians out there who are afraid to make 0.98

01:07:48.140 the same journey that you're making what would you say to them you can be whatever you want to be

01:07:54.540 you can be anything you want to be you you don't have to be bound by by uh by society's expectations

01:08:02.100 of you you know and it's not just to become a black trans lesbian you could literally become 0.99

01:08:07.020 anything you want to be i mean the black trans lesbian is just a the pit stop for me and who 0.97

01:08:13.640 knows if that's the end you know when when it's all said and done i may identify as uh you know 0.95

01:08:20.080 as a as a pixie as a fairy you know i may want to i may want to become tinkerbell the black the

01:08:27.260 black version of tinkerbell you know they never they i've never saw a black rendition of tinkerbell

01:08:32.040 i think it's kind of racist actually the chat is inspired they're saying they've never been so

01:08:36.860 out of all the guests i've had on i've had you know billionaires on the show wow had um lots

01:08:42.440 of women on the show and they say they've never been more inspired by anybody wow how does that

01:08:48.140 feel it's it's an honor it's an honor you know um people there are some good people left in society

01:08:56.220 and the people who resonate with Royce, I just deeply appreciate it.

01:09:01.660 I appreciate their support. I appreciate the opportunity.

01:09:04.460 I hope I'm able to serve the American people as Commander-in-Chief.

01:09:07.380 I think we're going through a pivotal moment in our nation's history,

01:09:10.220 and we need really serious people, people who are open-minded,

01:09:14.620 who are in touch with both their masculine and feminine side

01:09:18.380 so that they can properly represent both sexes,

01:09:21.620 and we can have some clarity here in this moment of national crisis.

01:09:28.140 So I'm appreciative.

01:09:29.440 It's a dream come true.

01:09:32.360 First black trans president.

01:09:36.040 Have you actually put on the calendar your surgery? 0.93

01:09:40.400 You know, I'm not a fan of surgery.

01:09:41.980 No, I don't trust big pharma.

01:09:45.220 I don't trust the medical industrial complex.

01:09:47.360 I think they're predatory.

01:09:48.520 uh yeah is because you're saying you're bald you can always use the uh hair follicles from

01:09:55.620 the sack to transfer up into your head so you can take care of the baldness oh is that a is

01:10:00.120 that a real thing yeah that's a real thing you know i mean you know i like being bald

01:10:05.960 you know royce it makes the wigs a lot easier i'll tell you that oh yeah you don't have to

01:10:12.900 braid that hair down so i'm i'm economical right you know and the reason why i went bald is so i

01:10:17.700 didn't have to have this, you know, this war with a barber where I make him cut my hair low

01:10:22.440 enough to look like I'm not going bald. I thought that that was disingenuous. And certainly these

01:10:27.120 units, you know, a woman wearing a wig, you know, okay. But a man wearing a unit, a hairpiece, 0.83

01:10:33.560 that is one of the most egregious things a human being can do, in my opinion. So, you know, I was

01:10:39.800 never even thinking about hair plugs or hair pieces, units, toupees. None of that stuff is,

01:10:45.000 acceptable to my dead

01:10:48.120 name self, to Royce.

01:10:49.600 Do you think if you ever

01:10:51.600 currently got into,

01:10:54.060 because we talk a lot about family court

01:10:56.000 on this channel,

01:10:57.440 how mothers are given preference

01:11:00.140 for custody.

01:11:01.540 Oh, I'm in a family court battle right now.

01:11:03.680 Yeah, well you would think then the judge would

01:11:05.960 switch and give the custody 0.99

01:11:08.040 battle right to you.

01:11:10.300 Maybe that's the next, yeah, maybe that's

01:11:11.940 the next, maybe that's 1.00

01:11:13.700 the next monster we have to skin alive is is roysha as a representative of black trans in 0.95

01:11:18.800 the court system we'll see how that goes yeah yeah i didn't think about that i'm busy with 0.99

01:11:23.120 the wnba but you're you're probably right the court system is where where true equality for

01:11:29.040 transgenders has to be has to be won and i would think in the best interest of the child they say

01:11:34.560 it's for the mother and now that you're a mother i don't know i mean what it should be at least 50 0.98

01:11:42.540 50 custody oh i'm the i'm the mother of mothers i'm the um i'm the mother of transgen trans

01:11:47.560 lesbians i'm the rosa parks of transit i'm the breaker of chains i am the khaleesi of black

01:11:53.400 trans lesbians yeah you could you could maybe you need alimony and child support just in the 0.96

01:11:58.820 name of equality yeah i think that you need queen treatment right alimony child support 0.98

01:12:05.580 Oh, Kurt.

01:12:06.780 Oh, Kurt.

01:12:08.400 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:09.300 When you go into family court with a penis, you're an automatic loser. 1.00

01:12:12.800 But since you're converted to a clitoris, then maybe you can win. 1.00

01:12:17.740 That's the way it is right now in family court. 0.95

01:12:19.680 You know, I'm a Guinness consideration, a Guinness candidate, I would assume.

01:12:28.700 I'm up there, maybe in the top 10, 15, maybe top 20. 0.95

01:12:32.460 I don't know how big clitorisers usually get. 0.98

01:12:34.920 or how big they've gotten in history. 1.00

01:12:37.000 But I'd say nine and a half,

01:12:39.080 maybe a little over nine and a half.

01:12:40.260 I'd say that's probably right up near the top 1.00

01:12:41.920 of all-time clitoris. 0.91

01:12:44.980 I'm so inspired with this. 0.89

01:12:47.240 So I've heard from many circles,

01:12:49.380 and maybe you've heard this too,

01:12:50.480 that like, why is it during Black History Month,

01:12:52.900 we always have to go back to the 60s or 70s

01:12:56.120 to really celebrate anything significant in Black history?

01:12:59.500 It's kind of hard to nail down in the last 30, 40, 50 years.

01:13:02.560 But this is it right here. This is something that can be celebrated in the annals of black history. This is it. I'm trying to think, since the civil rights movement, has there been anything bigger to celebrate in the black community historically than Royce's rise to greatness?

01:13:20.940 i mean you know again we're all we're all stacked on top of each other's shoulders

01:13:26.460 and and i'm just the latest thing to uh to push the envelope but i i agree i think this is the

01:13:33.720 moment for right now and like i said earlier i'm unburdened by what has been and you look at the

01:13:38.500 white supremacy that led to kamala harris's eventual failure as a presidential candidate

01:13:43.440 the only thing to right the ship is to have a black trans woman become the first president

01:13:49.580 the united states of america and i think i would serve well i think i would serve the american

01:13:53.420 people well i'm america first though but that shouldn't matter i mean identity comes first

01:13:57.900 and ideas come second i agree yeah it sounds good to me helping you with the campaign obviously

01:14:06.940 in texas you know thank you thank you awesome

01:14:10.620 yeah um well i thank you for coming on the show and sharing your story it was really brave of you

01:14:21.760 i know that you faced a lot of backlash and um not everyone gives you a not everyone gives you

01:14:27.800 a fair interview you know so i hope you felt included here and accepted and i do apologize

01:14:34.320 guys for my transphobia in the past, but I want you to know that I have overcome it and I'm very

01:14:40.740 accepting now. Well, we're creating a, I'm currently in the, I am currently in the process

01:14:45.540 of creating a transgender reparations fund. And you know, I think that'll be, that'll be up and

01:14:53.720 running. So you'll have a chance to contribute for your, your bigotry. And we just want a small

01:14:58.220 nominal fee, you know, nothing, nothing crazy, nothing that'll break the bank, just something

01:15:02.380 to say, I'm sorry. I think that's the least I could do. Thank you. It's great. It's great to

01:15:09.780 be with you. Thank you for having me. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, they won't have a beautiful black queen

01:15:17.100 like Roysha. I'm honored and appreciative that you, somebody who's been such an outspoken 1.00

01:15:23.400 advocate for women, is willing to have an honest conversation with a beautiful black queen. Thank

01:15:28.660 you thank you thank you and where can the people find you and support you still Royce White you

01:15:35.720 know the social media platforms aren't aren't very uh very uh good with with changing your name

01:15:41.880 you know your your name from your dead name they make you go through a process where you have to

01:15:46.180 be unverified for a short time uh so you know we haven't changed the name to Royce yet across all

01:15:52.200 social medias you still got to look for Royce White on all social media platforms and you can

01:15:56.540 find find him pretty easily i'm just tagging along for right now well thank you so much for coming on

01:16:03.020 and we'll definitely have you back um thank you i'm sure in the stories in the future we'll need a

01:16:08.220 black um woman ad you know black trans woman advocate so thank you god bless you god speed to

01:16:14.940 you thank you this is the greatest thing i swear to god now i can finally laugh that guy wow that 0.98

01:16:31.040 no that beautiful black trans lesbian hold on let me go no it's okay it was fun i do i do 0.98

01:16:40.120 apologize guys we're bringing people in the studio now so there's gonna be growing pains 0.93

01:16:44.920 as we do this because it's just been by my lonesome so to the chat i apologize for the tech

01:16:51.140 issues there's going to be a lot in the next two weeks so just deal with it and then but it'll get

01:16:55.680 better over time yeah yeah the i'll be honest this guy is the godzilla of trolls dude this dude

01:17:05.720 when roysia talks about going hard in the paint trolls man this guy's amazing yeah when what's 0.57

01:17:13.060 talked about going hard in the paint it's the troll like i'm trying to think of a harder troll 0.98

01:17:19.140 than than him than her a beautiful black trans lesbian i i can't this is great 0.81

01:17:27.700 the hero that we didn't know we needed but is here now i just you know i'm just happy i could

01:17:32.260 be an advocate you know because you know i always thought they always said i'm racist homophobic

01:17:38.740 misogynistic but it turns out i'm actually very pro woman i didn't even know i'm very

01:17:47.220 i am very pro woman and i'm an advocate for the trans woman i didn't even know but now that i saw

01:17:54.900 her i i can't help but support her cause you know yep yep diversity check equity check

01:18:02.980 inclusionary check you know there you go okay thank you for having me

01:18:10.980 no you did great we love we love terrence in the chat i've always been ahead of your time yeah guys

01:18:17.540 terrence has been here all week we've been working on um documentary stuff and

01:18:25.700 just a lot of stuff it's been pretty cool having him around

01:18:28.180 um and by the way just so you guys know september 11th new york city you can still get a ticket

01:18:35.900 if you go to the audacity network.com uh for friday you basically get to hang out with me

01:18:41.720 you can go behind the scenes in a podcast um and then also get dinner we're gonna go to a steakhouse

01:18:49.880 it's gonna be pretty fun so and we're gonna do these in the future they're gonna be in texas

01:18:55.380 um and we're gonna probably do these like once a month so uh basically you just hang out with me

01:19:02.480 for a day i was thinking of even adding and working out with me in the morning would you

01:19:06.600 guys do it if i added that you wish you lived in new york well look at dallas is an easy flight

01:19:14.500 away but we're open to like ideas is the it guy rolling in the background no guys obviously i

01:19:21.380 have an it person um it's just we figure it out as we go so but i think dallas like that everyone

01:19:28.340 can fly there it's like a three hour flight or less for most people so yeah and dallas has pretty

01:19:34.100 cheap flights too we're trying to differentiate what we could add um would you guys want to do

01:19:40.420 it one day or two days because we were debating we were thinking just one day so people can get

01:19:45.060 in and out and leave the next day so i don't know it could be kind of fun you'd have to pay me to

01:19:52.100 hang out with you i'm hurt i'm sad i'm disappointed you know i got the last minute yeah so i'm gonna

01:20:05.940 be streaming a lot more um and you'll have to forgive me for the growing pains it's going you

01:20:11.380 you know what i mean so um but yeah um i gotta catch a flight to new york city so i gotta get

01:20:22.340 going but doug mp you got any final thoughts yeah i'm hoping that roy should rise all the way

01:20:27.880 to its conclusion um women don't understand that when you talk that if you're going to be in a man's

01:20:35.040 world if you're going to be strong independent you when you talk to talk you're going to have 0.97

01:20:39.000 the walk the walk and i think that these wnba players never thought about what the the rise

01:20:45.640 of roysha the beautiful black trans lesbian and they're going to be fate there as time goes on

01:20:51.980 they're going to have to face the issue they're going to have to or or roysha and enos are going 1.00

01:20:56.760 to be freaking dunking over these broads with their nine inch clitorises up and up in these 0.99

01:21:02.080 broad spaces as so as yep thanks doug mpa appreciate you it's good to talk all right um 0.99

01:21:10.480 that was an amazing interview i had so much fun um let me know what you guys think in the comments

01:21:17.100 i'm telling you once i've had the last two weeks i've had so much travel but i'm gonna be streaming

01:21:22.320 like every day when i get back i needed to get some business stuff figured out because what'll

01:21:27.740 happen is sometimes if i stream too much then i'll be like a f i gotta figure out stuff for

01:21:32.760 the doc so me and terrence sat down terrence is a military commander guy i don't know the name

01:21:38.920 because i'm bad with names of like position it's just you guys you guys have watched me forever

01:21:43.240 i'm bad at pronouncing words the names of things i forget but i'm not stupid all right i'm not you

01:21:48.560 know so regardless um we we fixed some problems we had going on and we're gonna keep on keep on

01:21:59.120 going with this this stuff so i love you guys thanks for watching and i'll see you next time

Pearl - September 10, 2026

Royce White Joins Pearl Daily to Talk about His Brave Transition!

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