In this episode of the Cash App, I talk to a Bitcoiner who is a "deadbeat dad" to his own daughter, Maddie, about a viral video she made about her ex-wife leaving the family to pursue a career in the entertainment industry.
00:00:00.000Hello. Hey, Pearl. How are you? Good. I found out you're a Bitcoiner, huh? Yeah. Yep. I went to the Bitcoin conference last, like, Thursday, or sorry, not Thursday, last May, I think. And I've never met a more enthusiastic group of people.
00:00:23.760Well, I think they're more enthusiastic now because it's 50,000 a coin, 57,000 a coin.
00:00:29.460I think probably last year it was down around 20 or something like that.
00:00:41.880Well, you know, Max Keiser, I guess, in the very early days of Bitcoin, I think maybe around 2010 or 11, gave, well, Max Keiser gave Alex Jones 10,000 Bitcoins back then.
00:00:55.520And Alex Jones lost the, threw away the laptop or, you know, just totally forgot the keys.
00:01:01.540And, you know, what would 10,000 Bitcoins be worth today?
00:01:04.380So, yeah, that actually happened quite a bit to the early Bitcoin holders.
00:01:08.420well yeah maybe it'll be worth a lot someday i was like maybe bitcoin isn't for me because i
00:01:14.740already lost the password don't lose it buy some more um okay well sorry i had to i had to say that
00:01:23.460because i just saw the bitcoin shirt oh yeah um so tell me what was your reaction when this video
00:01:29.620came out um had you heard this like her side of the story before no it's really kind of out of
00:01:35.860the blue i just kind of wake up wake up in the morning at six to start work and i open my laptop
00:01:40.260and i'm greeted with just this avalanche of you know you're a deadbeat dad kind of comments in
00:01:45.220my social media and uh i'm like what the heck is this about and and uh after a few minutes
00:01:51.460of investigation i find out my daughter 24 years old uh she's put out a social media
00:01:57.620video kind of slamming me actually her first video was was sort of fine i'd say about 95
00:02:02.420of it because it had a storyline she's a hollywood writer assistant writer for uh for nbc peacock
00:02:08.020streaming and she um her opening was pretty good it was like uh my dad left the family to be to
00:02:15.860pursue break dancing which actually isn't true um i picked up break dancing by accident uh in 2012
00:02:22.500and did that for exit exercise we got divorced from her mom in 2005 so there was like a seven
00:02:28.340year gap there but nevertheless it was kind of a funny storyline i had no problem with that
00:02:31.780But then she implied that I wasn't paying medical bills and I was some kind of deadbeat dad.
00:02:36.720But in fact, I paid the mom and the family millions of dollars, $600,000 to a college fund, you know, basically, you know, paid for pretty much everything.
00:02:47.600And I saw the kids all the time, lived a mile, a mile and a half down the street, sidewalks all the way.
00:02:52.120They could walk or bike if they wanted.
00:02:54.120Then in 2011, we bought a house eight minutes away.
00:03:30.220okay so but we still have a great relationship or at least i thought we did so you know we're
00:03:34.580we're like texting all the time literally literally all the time uh conversations and
00:03:38.940she's telling me how her day is and this is happening and she's telling me about the merch
00:03:42.080she's selling on her site and all this stuff so uh as far as i was concerned as far as i was
00:03:46.900concerned uh the relationship was fine and really actually very good so it was a shock but you know
00:03:53.300she was doing it a little bit for clicks i think and maybe a little bit to kind of stick dad a
00:03:56.980little bit, maybe show she could go viral. And so I wake up and her video has 7 million views.
00:04:02.800And so I, I, I talked to Maddie via text, not, not, not in person, but via text. I say, Hey,
00:04:08.960Maddie, you know, this video, you know, I actually like a lot of it, but you know,
00:04:12.780there's some serious inaccuracies in here. So you need to take it down so that, and just correct it
00:04:17.940and repost it. And you can make it funny without the implication that I'm some kind of deadbeat
00:04:22.500dad and actually she did not say that she um but a lot of the comments said that but she kind of
00:04:27.140implied it and uh so i so i said please take it down and she said well i can't because it's gone
00:04:31.980viral and she kind of has a side hustle on the whole social media thing she makes a little bit
00:04:35.700of money i think you know from social media seven million views she didn't want to take it down
00:04:39.700so then i said maddie okay you won't take it down how about i just put up a get to a response video
00:04:45.800it'll be very very mild very sweet i'm just going to correct some of these inaccuracies that are
00:04:50.860frankly damaging to me, my business, my clients, you know, I'm hearing about this literally from
00:04:55.120my clients and everybody's seen her video. So I had to answer it. And so she declined to put up
00:04:59.880my response. And so I posted it on X and it got 33 million views and, um, Elon weighed in. And
00:05:07.160then, uh, so she put up a much more negative second video, a follow-up video that was really,
00:05:12.280really full of a lot of inaccuracies, inaccuracies that I didn't see them and so forth. Saw them all
00:05:16.680the time literally i was just like every week and um and uh it was just so then i put up another
00:05:22.700video which is still very mild but it just in a more detailed way went through the facts and the
00:05:27.100details and i showed home movies you know when they were kids and you know we went to water parks
00:05:32.180and the beach and we traveled across the country went to yellowstone park saw the buffalo did all
00:05:37.680kinds of things and this this was just all the time so it was just not true what she was saying
00:05:42.440at all now i have no idea what's going on inside her head maybe in her mind i don't have a good
00:05:47.700relationship with her but i've in my mind we had a great relationship for years for many years and
00:05:53.260obviously divorce is very hard on kids so you know maybe there's 10 or 20 of her brain that was
00:05:59.260hostile to me and maybe there might have been a political aspect she did get very brainwashed in
00:06:04.840my opinion by her mom you know she they live there and we've been divorced 19 years so there's a
00:06:10.300little bit of that. And I think there's a lot of brainwashing at the college level. She went to
00:06:14.340Northwestern, which is an elite college, costs about $65,000 a year to go there. And she was
00:06:19.120a theater major. And so that's a very kind of liberal milieu that she is in. Now she's in
00:06:24.720Hollywood and she's kind of in that atmosphere. And she's trying to build this social media
00:06:28.940presence. And she has a lot of followers that are obviously on the left and kind of more the artsy
00:06:32.940crowd. And, you know, so that's what happened. Was that really frustrating to you?
00:06:38.360to five million dollars um to have your daughter think that you were a deadbeat yeah yeah it is
00:06:46.340very frustrating and you know my ex-wife will dispute the amount you know whether it's four
00:06:49.800million or five million but it's some million it's a lot of money whether four million or five
00:06:55.020million it's a big amount so uh so they said you lied you know yeah i didn't lie i just it's a
00:07:00.320number i haven't done the accounting you know we've been like it's kind of like been years and
00:07:03.720years and decades. So, but yeah, it was, it's heartbreaking, you know, and obviously I didn't
00:07:08.680show it in the video, but my, my wife, you know, she says, you know, I've never kind of seen you
00:07:13.520cry, you know, never once, not once about anything. And I, and I didn't feel like I was crying, but I
00:07:17.940think she could see my tears welling up and I'm not a crier. My dad was, I never saw him cry about
00:07:23.560anything. And I was kind of raised that way, but, you know, I did feel great heartbreak over this
00:07:28.080because I really love Maddie. I love all my kids. And, you know, I think there's a certain amount
00:07:32.860of brainwashing all our memories are false you know everyone's memories you've probably read
00:07:36.660you've probably read studies about this how you know we kind of string together a narrative in
00:07:40.300our brains and you know maybe i remember things a little wrong she remembers things a little wrong
00:07:43.860and we kind of create these stories in our brain and literally our memories are false we kind of
00:07:47.220create a false narrative in a way all of us i mean it's just because we don't have our brain can't
00:07:51.920hold that much data you know we're just like so that's so you know so i'm not i'm i'm totally
00:07:57.580validating her perspective and how she felt and how she must have felt when you know one day i'm
00:08:01.680living there and she's five years old and then the next day I'm not living there so obviously you
00:08:05.300know she's going to be uh you know affected by that no I could I could hear that in your voice
00:08:11.340when you did the video um it's really common I'm doing a documentary on divorce I would guess out
00:08:18.060of like every you know five men I interview maybe four were alienated from their children some don't
00:08:23.820even know it till they're older it's really yeah you don't know yeah yeah because you just don't
00:08:28.000know what the mom is saying. Even I have like personal friends that their parents were still
00:08:32.900married and they didn't figure it out. And like they were in the same house and that happened to
00:08:36.800them where they thought like their dad was gone because, you know, he didn't want to be there and
00:08:41.420he was really working. So I've seen it happen in the same house. Well, and what's happened,
00:08:47.280I think Pearl, you've touched on this in some of your podcasts and things is what's interesting
00:08:52.820about my videos is the black community actually resonated very strongly you know with me uh
00:08:58.980liberal white women you know not so much they definitely kind of resonated more with maddie
00:09:03.300uh but the black community really came in hard for me and you know and and i think the reason
00:09:08.740for that is obviously that the black community they have more you know family breakup and
00:09:12.500fatherless homes and things like that but and actually that's true and it's a big problem in
00:09:16.340the black community but uh the legal system is really really tilted against the male now somebody
00:09:21.940in my position, I can afford it. I can afford the alimony. I can afford child payments. But if you
00:09:25.680miss these child support payments, you miss alimony payments, you know, you can end up in
00:09:29.820jail and you will end up in jail. And for as a, you know, for being at arrears and they're going
00:09:34.780to put, you know, work release program and you're going to have to hang drywall and so forth. And
00:09:38.580you're never going to get, you know, a lot of people are in this situation and they're never
00:09:42.220going to get caught up on their payments. And meanwhile, their ex-wife is dumping on them on
00:09:47.500with their kids at the home. And the ex-wife is just dumping on the ex-dad as a deadbeat.
00:09:52.880And then the father loses all his self-esteem and self-worth. And he never really digs out.
00:09:58.320And he goes on drugs or maybe he commits suicide or alcohol, substance abuse. And so it's a real
00:10:04.660problem. So I do think that the legal system was tipped against the women back in the 50s.
00:10:11.060So it was a stay-at-home mom, dad, and then the dad would leave and wouldn't give the mother any money, so that's bad.
00:10:20.400And so it kind of snapped too far back against the male, and it's put particularly the working-class males into really a bad situation, working-class divorced males.
00:10:31.040And they don't realize how bad it's going to be because a lot of people are getting divorced in their 40s or even 50s.
00:10:36.680their kids are, you know, they've kind of, and for whatever reason, but they don't realize that
00:10:41.320they're in for a rough ride in a lot of ways, financially, and particularly the brainwashing
00:10:46.480by the mother of the kids, particularly the girls. I think, you know, the girls are much
00:10:51.120more susceptible to it because they identify with the mom. Generally, the sons, the boys are much
00:10:55.800less prone to drama, and they just kind of move forward, and they usually have a pretty good
00:10:58.800relationship with the dad. Not always. I'm just, I'm speaking generally here, but I think that's
00:11:02.920a pattern that's what i've seen too yeah where the women it affects a little bit more
00:11:07.480definitely yep i'm curious five million in a divorce roughly maybe it's four or three
00:11:15.160we're not we're not we're not gonna yeah we're not gonna argue over a lot yeah that's even um
00:11:20.680even i saw the one video where she was saying that like you lied about her job or something but
00:11:27.240it didn't it didn't seem it seemed like a small detail that was wrong it didn't really seem that
00:11:32.600yeah it's not a lie here's what here's what i do and it's interesting because i kind of look at the
00:11:35.720chat and the in her comments back and things like that and so she says i exaggerated her as being a
00:11:40.520hollywood screenwriter now a lot of times parents kind of exaggerated really yeah an assistant
00:11:48.040she's an assistant writer you know she's she she's in a writer's room yeah working on a show for nbc
00:11:53.000peacock streaming and the fact that i know so much about her daily life tells you that i'm actually
00:11:57.640involved in it and know quite a bit about it and we talk about it all the time so she's actually
00:12:01.240an assistant writer working in a writer's group on a show for NBC Peacock streaming,
00:12:07.080and she's very proud of that. The fact that she got that job was a very competitive kind of job
00:12:11.480to get, very difficult to get. So now I've sort of shortened it to, she's a Hollywood screenwriter,
00:12:17.080you know? Maybe she's embarrassed at work about that because she could be getting blow back at
00:12:24.600work, you know? Well, I didn't think it was a fair criticism because I'm just like, he's proud of you.
00:12:31.240Oh, yeah. I hate my kids' achievements all the time. Like, for example, when she went viral a little while ago, you probably saw it, where she's talking about her date with her, with kind of a bro's bro man, you know, a real man's man type boyfriend.
00:12:44.680Oh, my gosh, that's the same girl. I didn't realize that was the same girl.
00:12:47.940So she went viral with that. And it was all through conservative media. And they were playing at the, you know, they played on Fox News, you know, Gutfeld, you know, Jesse Waters and stuff.
00:12:59.080And all the conservatives liked it because she discovered, hey, you know, I really like this bro's bro, this man's man, this date that I just had, you know, forget these liberal snowflakes, even though she herself is very much a liberal.
00:13:11.100But, you know, the conservatives loved it. And so I was obviously kind of like bragging about this. Hey, that's my daughter. That's pretty cool.
00:13:18.680And so she was saying I was taking credit for it. This is what she's been saying. And after these videos, he's taking credit for trying to hype himself up.
00:13:26.340i i don't need to i before this before this blew up i had like 2000 x followers i hardly had any
00:13:32.020social media presence i mean i'm in the advertising business that's what i do so no i'm not trying to
00:13:37.220hype up my social media but you're kind of accusing me that you had five million to spend
00:13:43.220in in a divorce i'm sure you're quite accomplished on your own i mean it uh you know social media is
00:13:48.820not really what i wanted to do but yeah you know i had to answer this stuff you know and you know
00:13:52.580what's kind of interesting pearl is okay so i'm i get greeted with this video it's got seven million
00:13:57.860views by her i'm like well what am i going to do i've got this social media following that's
00:14:02.100hardly any you know i'll be lucky to put if i put up a video it might get 200 views but i thought
00:14:06.340it was important to put it up after she declined to put it to put it up on her feed and after she
00:14:10.820declined to take it down i thought i have to put it up so at least set the record straight so when
00:14:14.740my clients you know ask me about i can at least point them there to this link let's check this
00:14:19.380out here the facts blah blah blah man i didn't know it was going to get 33 million views and
00:14:23.300that you know yeah well well i actually i don't want to say i'm glad it went viral but i think
00:14:30.980the story is important because it's really common and you know the reason it went so viral is
00:14:37.140because it resonates with so many men right it hit a chord yeah i think divorced dads you know
00:14:42.660because they they they identified with it particularly in the black community or you
00:14:46.900you know, the working class community. Absolutely. So, so I'm curious, 5 million and a divorce,
00:14:53.600how many days did you get a month? Just one day, just one. Wow. Yeah. I mean, but here,
00:15:01.680I'll amend that. That was like the, in the legal agreement, but, and there was a period when my
00:15:06.580ex-wife, she did file a motion to present, prevent visitation. And we had to go through a lot of
00:15:10.740legal proceedings and she, you know, I'm not going to go into all the nastiness. I mean,
00:15:14.660if she starts bringing up stuff, I can bring up stuff. Right. So, um, but she followed this. So
00:15:19.940I had to overcome that. And so I got one day, uh, but once things kind of calmed down from the
00:15:26.020divorce, she kind of let me see them whenever I wanted, you know, so I would call up Pete,
00:15:30.200my son or the girls go out to dinner. Hey, you want to go to dinner? So it didn't have to be
00:15:33.800on a particular day. I mean, it's just down the street. Uh, we had them at Thanksgiving over at
00:15:37.820the house. So it was just, um, so there wasn't really any restrictions, you know, cause people
00:15:42.280have phones you just say hey i'm going to dinner you know uh text message they say yes or no
00:15:46.720generally the girls i will say this the uh the boys my son he they we were much closer in terms
00:15:53.580of going out all the time to movies and things like that the girls by the time they get to middle
00:15:57.580school they're kind of like just wanting to do their own thing with their friends and so i don't
00:16:01.000enforce the visitation it's yeah hey we're going to dinner hey we're going to breakfast we're going
00:16:05.080to lunch whatever we're going to the you want to come now i'm going to go hang out with my friends
00:16:08.560so that is true so in that sense maddie's saying well i didn't see my dad that much i didn't have
00:16:12.560that much of a relationship with him yeah but that's the girls just naturally want to hang
00:16:17.200out with their friends i don't want to say you have to be here at a certain time i mean you have
00:16:20.720to have breakfast you have to have you hit you hit like 12 your parents are lame you know yeah
00:16:24.880they're like they thought we were lame i mean they're embarrassed you know but to be seen with
00:16:30.400that's just how that's not maddie that's just like everybody every middle school high school
00:16:35.040girls like that not everyone well my point my point actually wasn't about how often you saw
00:16:39.900them because i i've just seen this story so many times i have no doubt you were an involved dad
00:16:45.080it was more that you spent five million dollars and were only legally entitled to a day a month
00:16:49.740yeah i mean i think i think that's right i'm gonna have to look at that i think it was one
00:16:54.280day i think it was saturday i think that was the legal that was but in practice you know i could
00:16:59.240see them whenever i wanted i mean it was not nothing was really strictly adhered to uh the
00:17:04.540thing that really strictly adhered to was the money part but the everything else was pretty
00:17:08.700much uh i'm so i would say that after the sort of dust settled on the divorce she did not restrict
00:17:14.700me in terms of seeing the kids yeah i would say that but you know i didn't force anything on onto
00:17:19.740them um and maybe i i just think it would have been backfired i think it would have backfired
00:17:23.980to try to force them to be places you know just just the i think it's just better to say be patient
00:17:29.900and say you're there and here we are oh she did say one thing too in her in her follow-up video
00:17:35.740she said well he was never there he he actually lived in florida that's not really true either
00:17:40.780we did buy a house in florida we kept our house in illinois and we'd stay in florida generally
00:17:45.740in the winter and we go back and forth all the time generally stay in chicago area uh during the
00:17:50.940when the you know spring fall you know spring summer fall that kind of thing you know when
00:17:54.700the weather is good so um and of course they're always welcome to come to florida they're always
00:17:59.180welcome to come over to the house we have pools in both both places um you know so but once the
00:18:05.260kids get to be kind of older we just bought the vacation house or kind of a vacation house in
00:18:09.580florida and we did actually make it our residence because you know there's no income tax in florida
00:18:13.420so um yeah but the kids are growing up by then two were in college two were in high school they're
00:18:18.620on their own they're doing their own thing yeah i'm from the same area that's really common
00:18:22.460because the winters are so bad i'm from like yeah the winners yeah it's funny because like in 2015
00:18:30.300we're in florida kind of just vacationing during the bad weather and we came across this foreclosure
00:18:34.540and just got a really good deal on it said how can this be this cheap and and uh you know we
00:18:38.300so we bought it and we liked it so but by that time two of the kids are in college and two are
00:18:44.540in high school and you know um we're going back and forth i mean it's like a taxi cab almost going
00:18:49.180back and forth between fort lauderdale and chicago you just jump on spirit airlines 90 bucks you're
00:18:54.380you're no hair in a few hours and then you you know have you spoken to their mother about their
00:19:00.460perspective or her perspective well her mother i thought actually we're getting i was getting along
00:19:06.540okay with the with their mom you know even last year so i go to pick up the kids for thanksgiving
00:19:11.740or something and um this is like last year and i guess one of them was late maybe tori or somebody
00:19:18.060was late so uh i just go so she just invites me in the house and we have a glass of wine now she's
00:19:22.860remarried to a great guy very successful he's head of a cancer center i think founder and and runs a
00:19:29.500cancer center uh affiliated with north uh northwestern university yeah so you know very
00:19:36.140successful and very good guy and and she lives in a two million dollar house and in uh well met so
00:19:43.020she's doing fine so i thought we were getting along fine but i think uh something's happened
00:19:47.580to really uh make her hostile toward me now she's super hostile now because of the my my videos that
00:19:53.340went up against not against maddie but my yeah uh fact my fact check type videos that went up
00:19:58.780and uh so she's super angry about that she's even tried to she's even calling my clients and
00:20:03.180you know trying to you know calling your clients yeah she's calling my clients and she's saying
00:20:07.500you gotta you gotta talk to ben and you gotta get us both on so she's literally like trying
00:20:12.220she's trying to torpedo my business now so it seems like it seems like how are you in such
00:20:16.540good spirits like you have a very um positive i would just be wrecked if i was in your shoes
00:20:22.380well i'll tell the first i have a very stoic i have a very kind of upbeat attitude generally i'm
00:20:28.940sort of a stoic uh existentialist in other words i think every day that i have here on this planet
00:20:33.900is basically a gift from god it's just like a incredible gift so why waste it with a lot of
00:20:38.220anger and and stuff why do that just be happy with every day that arrives be happy now every
00:20:43.420day that's above ground is a good day as far as i'm concerned and uh and besides that you know
00:20:47.740here in america we just have such so many blessings and the idea that we're really
00:20:51.500complaining about anything is just kind of preposterous to me so everybody has challenges
00:20:56.060everybody has bumps in the road obstacles they have to overcome you know people have you know
00:21:02.300pts i actually have i actually have two kids i said i mean six kids because uh wow yeah so
00:21:08.860So Wanda has two kids from a previous marriage, and one of them served one tour in Iraq, two tours in Afghanistan, and he unfortunately has PTSD, so he has far greater problems than my kids do.
00:21:23.360And I hear about his stories in Afghanistan and Iraq and stuff, and it's just amazing.
00:21:30.580So I think every day that we have in this country is just an awesome day.
00:21:34.260so if you have you spoken to her since everything went viral i know she's trying to reach out text
00:21:41.280message i mean um i mean the idea that we have a bad message too is just insane because uh maddie
00:21:48.520and i are just talking via text mostly but you know i just sent her a text this it's like cute
00:21:55.820little viral video that about our thing that was very neutral uh kind of more tipped in her
00:22:00.780direction than my direction i said i thought this was funny but she didn't answer and i i said
00:22:04.140like i i would like to come out to la and we just hang out you know we just hang out for a few days
00:22:08.380couple days go on a boat ride uh you know do whatever hang out the park go to whatever do
00:22:13.260whatever you want to do just hang out so she hasn't she's she's so far not uh accepted that
00:22:19.820invitation i hope she does at some point i hope she does sooner rather than later i think it would
00:22:24.860be fun to you know post some pictures or video whatever of us is getting along and reconciling
00:22:29.580because there's really no reason not to be getting along i mean here's here here the here are the
00:22:33.340texts these are the types of conversations we have all the time you know this is she's telling
00:22:38.380me about her day you know it's just um and it's so unnecessary and i think she initially did it
00:22:44.140for views um because she had this funny story idea that i got left by my dad uh he did that
00:22:50.940he went to become a break dancer yeah and it's a bit of i'm told and i just found this out that
00:22:55.500people are saying that there's this trend on tick tock among wealthy kind of or not wealthy but you
00:23:00.700know kind of white women white liberal women or girls to talk about their trauma their family
00:23:05.660trauma and apparently this is a trend on tick tock and so um she came up with this kind of funny idea
00:23:11.580for a trauma and i think it is funny but then she kind of went a little bit into this uh dark area
00:23:16.620yeah well i hope she figures it out you know it's not it's not like you're you're i mean i'm
00:23:23.020you don't even seem angry at her no i'm not angry at her at all i think uh i think she
00:23:29.420a little bit of a victim of the brainwashing by the bomb by the schools and i'm hoping that you
00:23:34.380know in a few years i think as people grow older they become more um commonsensical even if they
00:23:39.820might not become a republican you know trump support or anything like that but they sort of
00:23:44.140like especially if you get married and have kids i mean especially if you get married and have kids
00:23:49.580you know married women are much tend to be conservative you know tend to be right leaning
00:23:55.020more and um you know uh so i think there's that and i do actually think that the whole war on
00:24:00.860the family and marriage and so forth is a little bit uh you know there's a political agenda behind
00:24:04.940that because they know if you're a single woman you know you're more likely to be on the left
00:24:08.140side so i think there is some of that working uh also but uh yeah it's it's a tough situation
00:24:15.260believe me. These dads, other dads, thank God that, you know, I have the financial resources
00:24:20.200to be able to withstand kind of the assault that I was under from the legal process, from the legal
00:24:24.420process when I got divorced. But most guys don't have that, aren't able to do that. And they get
00:24:29.940buried. They get very depressed. They fall into, you know, alcoholism, depression, substance abuse,
00:24:35.400and they're alienated from their kids and so forth. So, you know, I think the kids, I think
00:24:40.220the kids as they get older will realize that nobody's perfect i'm far from perfect nobody is
00:24:46.440nobody is no parent is uh i mean my dad was far from perfect you know he he my my parents got
00:24:52.300divorced you know he had an alcohol problem he was one of the smartest people i ever met he was
00:24:55.820an english professor at dartmouth and but he had he was a tough person to get along with sometimes
00:25:00.880he kind of had a jekyll and hyde personality um but you know well in fact we had we had years when
00:25:06.560we didn't talk. There was a period when I did not talk to him for three years because of something
00:25:10.400he did to me. It's a financial kind of thing where basically, without getting into the details,
00:25:17.080but I didn't talk to him for three years. And he was this type of person that
00:25:19.700he would never call. So he would never call a kid if he would never initiate contact. But if you
00:25:25.980call him, he'd say, Hey, how you doing? You know, want to have dinner? Have one, have lunch? But
00:25:29.380not once did he ever, would he ever initiate contact? So three years passes and we haven't
00:25:34.780talked. And finally I said, okay, I'm going to get in touch with dad. So I call him. I was,
00:25:39.740I think in Washington, I was in Washington, DC at that point. And he was up in New Hampshire
00:25:43.060because he had been a professor at Dartmouth. And I said, Hey dad, I'm going to be in town.
00:25:48.100I'm going to be in town on Tuesday. I hadn't made the arrangements yet, but Hey, you want to have
00:25:51.960dinner? He said, yeah, sure. Let's do it. And it was like, nothing had happened. And the conversation
00:25:57.880was exactly where it was when we had, you know, left it, you know, years ago. So it was just like
00:26:03.200nothing gets kept skipped a beat so it was very just interesting so what i'm hoping is that the
00:26:07.680you know that maddie will just take me up on my offer to go out to la and hang out
00:26:13.680well i think too we don't always realize that men show their love in a completely different way
00:26:21.120and so like you know my dad he worked a lot when i was younger and then when i was 18 i found out
00:26:28.000his life's goal was to make sure none of his kids had to pay for college like he did.
00:26:36.000And so it's like, men show their love. And a lot of times conservatives make it sound
00:26:42.480like something it's not, but in a way, men do show their love by paying for things like
00:26:46.240money. It's not just that, obviously, but-
00:26:49.920No, it should be just that. And of course, if you listen to the liberal women in the
00:26:54.120comments, they'll say, well, it's not just about money. It's about the emotional bond
00:26:57.800and so forth and it is not they're right about that but money is your time you know i mean money
00:27:02.600is your time yeah it's not just money it's like you know you're you're literally they call it
00:27:06.680making a living for a reason because if you can't make money you're literally going to die you're
00:27:10.600literally going to starve you're going to be on the street so there's a reason they call it making
00:27:14.120living and money is kind of a wealth storage system that you can you know and that we get
00:27:17.400into bitcoin if you want it i was going to give you at the end of this i was actually going to
00:27:21.880give you the floor to talk about anything bitcoin if you wanted i just saw yeah sure i saw the
00:27:29.320enthusiasm for it yeah yeah yeah yeah well yeah and i think the bitcoin just yeah okay go ahead
00:27:35.240well is there anything else you want to say on the situation you know i think that's pretty much
00:27:40.360it i mean unless you have questions um you know i try i'm trying to keep it i i want to be a
00:27:46.680positive and upbeat i don't want to trash her mom too much i mean obviously i think that there was a
00:27:51.880brainwashing aspect there she's calling my clients now uh which is not cool but of course that's not
00:27:58.920having any impact on my business because i know who i am and you know i do good work for them and
00:28:02.980so it's like well why don't you talk to him you know men are men are a bit more logical they're
00:28:14.040not gonna stop working with someone because of family drama you know no no
00:28:17.720know so that's kind of that you know but yeah i feel any questions um well maybe from your
00:28:24.840audience yeah if anyone has any questions in the chat but i'm i'm curious so were any of your other
00:28:31.140kids like did any of your other kids feel the same way well the girls have kind of lot they've
00:28:36.740kind of rallied a little bit around maddie and mom and that that's sort of a little i mean it
00:28:41.020doesn't disappoint me that they rally around maddie at all because she's she's kind of getting
00:28:45.500torched in social media because, you know, I put up these videos that kind of fact checked her
00:28:49.580videos. So she's kind of getting torched. And so they see her as a victim. And I'm sure they also
00:28:54.500feel like I abandoned the family the way she does, because that's kind of what they've been taught,
00:28:59.060frankly, by their mom. And it might have looked that way to them because one day I'm living at
00:29:02.400the house and the next day I'm not. So there is that. So the girls are kind of rallying. I talked
00:29:09.100to my son and he's like, hey, he says, I say, hey, Peter, did you hear anything about the social media
00:29:14.800dust up with maddie he's like yeah i think i heard something about it what's that about
00:29:20.880he definitely didn't want to really get into it i don't know how much he knew but it was like
00:29:24.880i mean as far as he's concerned it's like okay some kind of drama going on it's not like something
00:29:29.120he needs to be worried about it's like hey when are you going to be we're in florida now hey when
00:29:32.960are you going to be in town you know when are you going to be he's 29 now so and you know yeah yeah
00:29:37.920so yeah so he and he's uh getting his master's in uh psychology he wants to be a yeah he actually
00:29:43.600he's bipolar one so he has met some mental health issues he's uh so he wants to help people who have
00:29:49.000his issues you know because he's a very smart intelligent guy and a lot of people don't have
00:29:55.160his resources uh level of intelligence and so forth um he wants to help people who have his
00:30:01.240mental health issues well and i can i can hear in your voice how proud you are of your kids
00:30:07.080i could hear through the video you know oh yeah i'm totally proud of them even if they never
00:30:11.300talk to me, but, and I hope that doesn't happen, but they're going to, I think they'll come around.
00:30:16.220I think they all will. And, you know, I'm pretty confident of that. Yeah. This has happened before.
00:30:23.880You know, this has happened before. So Victoria, the oldest daughter, she once decided not to talk
00:30:27.400to me for a year. And then I'm picking up, I don't know, Peter for dinner or something. And
00:30:32.340Tori comes out of the house and, and this is, I think she was like a senior or maybe junior in
00:30:37.440high school and i say hey tori great great you could be here um i like to say so what changed
00:30:42.640your mind about coming or you know we haven't like talked in a year and she says i just think
00:30:46.960you've had you've had a year of silence and that's enough and then it was just
00:30:54.160so that's kind of like you know yeah so that i hope i hope something like that happens or
00:30:58.320hopefully sooner than that yeah have you had a lot of men reach out to you with their stories
00:31:02.720i see it a lot in the comments you know and you know because my videos went viral the comments
00:31:10.100are just this avalanche of thousands of comments but people are putting you know paragraphs in the
00:31:15.180comments about their situation and you know maybe i'll maybe i'll do a video on that sometime just
00:31:20.240going through these comments and telling the story you know really unrelated to my situation just
00:31:25.480it's a real problem i mean there's a men's mental health crisis out there because of the way the
00:31:31.720divorce laws are set up and how the legal system is completely tipped against me. And this is kind
00:31:36.920of funny. This is going to really get me in trouble. Okay. I'm trouble. So when I go into
00:31:45.900the court against my ex-wife, I could see that this judge was probably a lesbian. I don't know
00:31:52.920for sure. But I knew that I was dead. But I said in an email to Betsy, you know, I guess you
00:32:01.220i guess you win the lottery here you got the lesbian judge so like i'm gonna be toast here
00:32:05.620so naturally that got read in court you know oh no so that was bad so well that's that's the thing
00:32:14.340i think a lot of the conservatives are a bit naive to how bad family court can be for men especially
00:32:21.540average men in this country um like you were saying earlier um like and i would say men
00:32:27.940like the like the 90 of them they're screwed yeah i mean i had no idea until i started researching
00:32:36.820it and then it's i started asking um it's crazy the amount of uber drivers i've had that are
00:32:42.820ubering because they got wrecked in family court yeah it's oh yeah yeah it's it's really common
00:32:49.540right and you even see like i i was in an uber a few weeks ago and it was a college professor
00:32:55.860literally doing uh ubering to get extra money and from this situation from this uh he wasn't making
00:33:01.700enough as a professor maybe a junior professor or something like that couldn't make the payment so he
00:33:06.100has to you know uber drive so you know it's really pretty tough they say you know hey it's only money
00:33:12.660you know it's just money it's so you know you need to have feelings it's also emotional connection
00:33:16.660well you know a guy is working all day on a construction site it's kind of hard to have
00:33:21.460emotional connection when you're you know coming home you know just dead tired and you crack open
00:33:26.740a beer i mean that is kind of the real that is kind of the life situation for most people out
00:33:31.940there and you know you're pretty dead tired from work and and maybe you aren't as emotionally
00:33:36.660engaged as you know would be optimal yeah well and how do you compete with the mom who has all
00:33:44.900day to tell them their side of the story no they have they have all day like they could be in their
00:33:50.580ear all day the dad gets home he has no idea what happened all day like just just like you
00:33:57.300you know i your your story is so common it is so common oh well also she my ex-wife she did not
00:34:04.100work when i was uh because she wanted to be a stay-at-home mom and that's part of the reason
00:34:07.620for the whole money well you know i don't want the kids to be you know latchkey kids i don't want them
00:34:11.620to uh come home and have no mom there so you know i want i need to be a single mom i need to or need
00:34:16.420to be a uh you know a fully engaged mom so now she was doing some projects she had a column with
00:34:21.300scripps howard news service and she was doing a little gigs here and there but it's maybe bringing
00:34:25.220in a thousand a month or two thousand a month not much and so but she wanted to be a stay-at-home
00:34:29.780mom and i basically agreed to that i agreed yeah okay i think that would be optimal so yeah she
00:34:34.500really did have all day wow so you actually you actually paid for her to stay home with the kids
00:34:41.540throughout their entire life yes wow yeah yeah yeah and she started getting work when the kids
00:34:47.220got older like maybe you know when they're late in high school she started getting you know more
00:34:51.700but still stay-at-home type work you know it's more like freelance type work uh not really not
00:34:56.820not leaving the house for the full-time job at all so you know i have no idea how much and plus
00:35:00.820she's married to 2012 she married a pretty rich guy this guy who's head of a cancer center at uh
00:35:05.700founder and head of a cancer center i think he's founder uh at northwestern university so
00:35:11.540you know she's living in a 2.4 million dollar home i think in uh wilmette you better be careful
00:35:16.580she's doing fine you know but so you know also but the point is everybody has their own narrative
00:35:28.340and their own perspective right so and everybody kind of stitches to no one no one wants to be
00:35:32.740no one wants to think of themselves as a liar right uh so nobody's really lying they are kind
00:35:37.380of stitching together this narrative and picking the cherry picking things you know over a long
00:35:42.580period of time over many decades and that becomes your memory you know so like my dad and i used to
00:35:47.140play tennis all the time pretty much every day but i can only really remember maybe a few times
00:35:51.620even though i know he was a tremendous tennis player a collegiate tennis player played number
00:35:56.180one you know was a top 10 junior tennis player this and that so we played tennis all the time
00:36:01.220and uh but i can't actually remember each time we played tennis i remember like a few key events
00:36:06.900and that's how the human mind works and so that's how their mind works so i'm not even saying i'm
00:36:11.780not saying that they're lying i'm saying that they've stitched together this narrative in their
00:36:16.100in their brain i've done the same in my brain and so we have different uh we literally have
00:36:20.020different memories and different recollections well i hope she figures it out you know i i think
00:36:25.620she will eventually you seem like you seem like a pretty involved dad so i do too i think so um
00:36:33.860so tell me about tell me about bitcoin well bitcoin okay so bitcoin i was just on i was
00:36:39.700just on dinesh d'Souza's podcast i wanted to because i you just i could oh i have a book
00:36:46.820i'm gonna plug my book here uh which is uh uh bitcoin a beginner's guide actually came out in
00:36:52.4202022 and it's all it's it's uh the subtitle is your off-ramp from the corrupt political system
00:36:58.580and protection from economic collapse and think about and i say bitcoin is really the only hope
00:37:04.820for freedom survival and when you take a look at uh what's happening now you have this big
00:37:09.140tech totalitarianism right there's the only outpost really is is thank god elon bought x
00:37:14.900because uh otherwise there would be no way there'd be no free speech for the for the right of center
00:37:20.180side for the pro-freedom side all information be controlled by google and big tech microsoft
00:37:25.540Microsoft's now threatening to basically disable all your applications if they don't like something that you might be typing privately on your computer.
00:37:35.680So they're actually doing that. Yeah. And so you got this big tech totalitarian prison being set up, digital prison, and they're in partnership with government.
00:37:45.860So CIA was Google's biggest client. They basically provided the startup capital for Google. And so they are literally Google and Amazon and Microsoft. They are literally arms of the government and their biggest customers of the government.
00:38:02.040And there so that so that's a digital prison that's being set up. And and what the big problem that Bitcoin solves is it solves the problem of dishonest money.
00:38:12.040So what happened was the United States went off the gold standard in 1971 when Nixon was president. And at that point, one ounce of gold, we'd been on the gold standard more or less through our history.
00:38:23.460um one ounce of gold cost 35 dollars an ounce then but nixon and congress they wanted to keep
00:38:30.400funding the great society welfare programs and the vietnam war and it's pretty hard to do that
00:38:35.140both of those things if you're on the gold standard so they took us off the gold standard
00:38:39.300and just went to a pure uh government fiat money printing system and so they just printed up a lot
00:38:46.020of money and nixon won 49 states because the economy is booming it's kind of like a sugar
00:38:50.020high for the economy right so uh then uh flash forward to the so meanwhile these brilliant
00:38:56.740software engineers were trying to figure out how had they been for many years and actually bitcoin
00:39:01.540is not just thought up by somebody one day this is a project that had been going for decades and
00:39:05.860it was going for decades since really the 1980s i would say um and there were many attempts to
00:39:12.100to create a digital currency and it had to be decentralized and the reason it had to be
00:39:15.220decentralized is because you can't have a way for government to be able to get it attack it
00:39:20.020so so what bitcoin is is it's honest money there'll never be 20 more than 21 million bitcoins
00:39:25.860and it's uh the money is in the form of a ledger that is updated every 10 minutes and it's
00:39:31.780distributed to miners and nodes computers across the world to more than 1 million miners and nodes
00:39:38.580across the world and so there's no way government can attack it can get it uh because it's just on
00:39:44.180somebody's computer out there somebody you know even if they wiped out every computer in america
00:39:48.100well bitcoin ledger is still being updated every 10 minutes you know in kazakhstan and afghanistan
00:39:53.380and iran and africa and everywhere else and china did try to attack bitcoin in 2021 they outlawed
00:40:00.660bitcoin mining and they outlawed bitcoin transactions and so what happened and at that
00:40:05.460point 60 of the mining bitcoin mining and i'll explain what that is in a minute if you're
00:40:09.620interested um was being done in china and so they outlawed mining china did the china regime did and
00:40:17.060And so all the miners left China, went to Kazakhstan and other places.
00:40:21.140And so there was no Bitcoin mining done in China.
00:40:23.640And the Bitcoin mining hash rate did drop, but then quickly came back up.
00:40:28.940And so China gave up trying to attack Bitcoin.
00:40:34.400And the mining has now come back in China.
00:40:36.500So now like 20% of the Bitcoin mining is now being done in China.
00:40:40.220And I think the Chinese government is actually trying to sort of co-opt it, maybe buy some themselves.
00:40:45.720So basically, Bitcoin is unconfiscatable money.
00:40:49.400There'll never be more than $20 million.
00:40:51.000It's meant to fix the money printing press that started in 1971.
00:40:55.100Actually, it started before that, but we'll just say for simplicity, 1971.
00:40:58.900So one ounce of gold in 1971 was $35 an ounce.
00:41:14.940So in other words, instead of paying $45,000 for a pretty good car, which is the average
00:41:19.020car price now, you should be paying $800 for the same car, right?
00:41:22.760That gives you, so I'll let that sink in for a minute.
00:41:25.280Or my dad bought our childhood home for $20,000.
00:41:29.080That same house is worth more than a million dollars today.
00:41:31.660So that's not because the value of the house went up.
00:41:33.960It's because the value of the dollar is just, and what that is, is a hidden tax.
00:41:37.660And what fiat money printing is, it's 100% taxation over time.
00:41:41.560It's infinite taxation. So the government doesn't ever have to pass another tax increase. It could just print more money. And that's what's happening. So we now have a $35 trillion national debt or $34 trillion, soon to be $100 trillion. And the government's not worried about that because they can just print up more money to pay for that to cover the interest and just let the debt go to infinity.
00:42:00.780But eventually, the piper does have to be paid. Eventually, you become the Weimar Republic. You become just 10,000% interest rates. But what's going to happen is the debt, the national debt just accelerates. It just keeps accelerating.
00:42:16.420You know, before the pandemic, you know, I say in 2019, the national debt was maybe 18 trillion and now it's 35, 34 trillion.
00:42:24.240So it's like literally doubled. So pretty soon it's going to be 100 trillion and 200 trillion and so on.
00:42:29.400And so what's going to happen is the money printing just to keep up with the interest payments are just going to have to accelerate, go faster, print more and more and more money.
00:42:36.380Otherwise, the whole Ponzi scheme collapses. So that's the problem that Bitcoin solves.
00:42:42.820when do you do you foresee it becoming standardized in like our lifetime um you know there's a big
00:42:50.820debate there there are factions interesting within the bitcoin community there are fact
00:42:57.300i couldn't believe that like they'll be like you're not a real bitcoiner i'm like what's a
00:43:01.780real big like not me but they'll they'll call each other and i'm like yeah because my cousin
00:43:07.620his name's jonathan he's a tall guy you might know him if you're really in the bitcoin stuff
00:43:11.540yeah i don't know yeah he he'll he'll talk like you guys have like communities of the real bitcoiners
00:43:19.300and the not oh yeah there's that yeah because there's other coins i guess i don't here's how
00:43:24.180i okay here here i'm just going to generalize here on the factions okay there's the really
00:43:27.940hardcore libertarians and they believe that bitcoin there's going to be a phase called hyper
00:43:32.020you know because people want the hardest money the best money um and what's great about bitcoin
00:43:37.300so bitcoin is sometimes called digital gold because gold you know that's where you store
00:43:41.540your value but it's not really good for buying a cup of coffee or you know bag of groceries uh
00:43:46.340it's not practical to use gold for sort of daily transactions so then you know we developed in the
00:43:51.220united states gold certificates so you could literally take a your paper currency literally
00:43:56.660gold certificates and walk to any bank and get gold coins and they'd be real gold coins and then
00:44:01.060what happens is they dilute the gold and they um they tried to counterfeit they tried to counterfeiting
00:44:05.860that way the government does and then eventually they just gave up on all this counterfeiting and
00:44:10.420putting less silver in the dimes and putting less silver and put less copper in the pennies
00:44:14.260and pretty soon it's just junk and um and then they're just they just go to a pure paper money
00:44:19.060printing system that's not tied by anything except the full faith and credit of the u.s government
00:44:23.460right so um so but you know so the danger for the united states is that uh let me go into these
00:44:32.420to actions so um the there's the really hardcore bitcoiners like max kaiser he's one of the
00:44:38.820original bitcoiners and he thinks that bitcoin is going to hyper called hyper coinization
00:44:44.020hyper bitcoinization that's going to come a point where there's going to be a kind of a point of no
00:44:48.660return where just basically all fiat currency is going to be sucked into bitcoin and everybody's
00:44:52.660going to be using bitcoin and you know it's going to be a trillion dollars a coin and that kind of
00:44:56.500of thing. So that's one school. I actually don't want that to happen because I think we do need
00:45:03.060things like a military. We just don't want to have people just... So we do need that. And so
00:45:08.240what I think, my view, is that Bitcoin has the potential to keep the dollar honest because what
00:45:14.680will happen is the free market will kick in. If people think that the paper money is not good,
00:45:18.880they're just going to buy more Bitcoin and there's going to be a free market working.
00:45:22.020and people probably still use fiat currency you can use bitcoin to buy your bag of groceries your
00:45:27.040your cup of coffee you know some places take bitcoin you know and el salvador went made
00:45:31.780bitcoin legal tender so if you go to el salvador you can buy your cup of coffee with bitcoin
00:45:35.720you can carry it around on your phone and do it and in africa bitcoin is like
00:45:39.400most people use it i think and so um i think what's going to happen though is we want the
00:45:45.120we want the united states to still exist we don't want it to just be sucked into this
00:45:49.140You know, kind of vortex. But I think Bitcoin will be a great stabilizer to the dollar. But in the event of, you know, if they really get corrupt, and also that I talk about the digital prison, the big tech thing, Bitcoin is kind of the, I call it the second amendment for money. It separates money from state. It's unconfiscatable. It's unconfiscatable. You can be your own bank. Or you can just buy an ETF, you know.
00:46:13.560So if you buy the ETF, which just got approved, like 11 of them just got approved a few weeks ago, I think on January 10th, you know, some people just say, OK, I'm not going to try to worry about self-custody and, you know, how do I set up a wallet and how do I get my address?
00:46:27.580They're just going to buy the ETF and at least protect themselves from the fiat money government, fiat government printing.
00:46:32.980You know, maybe I don't have to have carry my wealth with me to El Salvador or someplace in the event of a total social political system collapse.
00:46:41.720so you can still buy it uh through an etf like blackrock has one called uh i think it's called
00:46:47.000ibit uh they just uh infidelity has one so a lot of people i think most people maybe will will just
00:46:52.800do that and they at least they store their wealth that way and it's easy to do you just go on e-trade
00:46:57.120and you can just buy an etf but it's that would not be true bitcoin right you're just owning the
00:47:01.080etf so the true bitcoiners they want to own their own bitcoin they want to have self-custody of
00:47:06.280their bitcoin they want to have their own keys store you're all you know where nobody can get
00:47:09.920it so you know so so there's the really hardcore ones a lot of them think i'm kind of like phony
00:47:14.120because i'm i like think the etfs are good it makes it easy for people to buy bitcoin i think
00:47:18.260that's good you know i know i've never that's why i said i was like i have never met a more
00:47:24.280enthusiastic group of people than it's hardcore libertarians well and a ton of them have watched
00:47:30.000my stuff because i've never been recognized more in my life than when i was at the bitcoin conference
00:47:34.480Oh, that's good. That's great. Yeah. I was like, I was like, I didn't know I had such a fan base in, in Bitcoin. Like, it's just, I didn't know anything about it.
00:47:42.700Oh, yeah. Well, because, you know, you are kind of, you know, you kind of, you know, you say things that, you know, get you in trouble and stuff. Absolutely. Well, what's kind of interesting, Pearl, though, is I also try to not politicize Bitcoin because, you know, it's more libertarian. It's not necessarily, it's not Republican or party. I mean, most of them hate Republicans and Democrats. I just hate the two parties equally. So they're very libertarian minded.
00:48:01.580And so you do have the left leaning libertarians like a Jack Dorsey. He says he's dedicating his entire life to just making Bitcoin, you know, available to the world easily. And so there's a lot of lefties, lefty libertarians in Bitcoin and right leaning libertarians in Bitcoin.
00:48:17.040So I don't want to say like it's a Republican thing or try to make it partisan.
00:48:22.520Because what's kind of interesting, too, is, you know, more, I think it was more of a liberal, liberals were more attracted to Bitcoin at first because liberalism, you know, used to be for freedom, you know, used to be for things like free speech and, you know, civil liberties and, you know, but they're not really for that anymore.
00:48:37.160They're for this state control totalitarianism, big tech, you know, you can't, you can't say what you think, you can't.
00:48:43.240And that's okay, YouTube, give us our monetization back, please.
00:48:46.720yeah i mean it's just so insane i mean but you know hopefully you can also build a community on
00:48:55.600x and you can monetize that way monetize through uh yeah but yeah bitcoin i think it is uh i think
00:49:03.120it's a great check on government the corruption of the money um i say actually i say there's
00:49:08.400there's two hopes for freedom survival one is bitcoin because it fixes the money
00:49:12.080whoever controls your money controls you right so if the government is in control of your money
00:49:16.000and now they're going to come out with programmable money that's being rolled out in china
00:49:19.680where people the money can be programmed so you can only buy certain things certain approved things
00:49:24.400or if you say something wrong the government could turn off your money so that's being rolled out in
00:49:27.920china and the the world economic forum is just dying to have programmable money so they can
00:49:33.120literally turn off your money um and uh they say that's not going to happen in the united states
00:49:37.520but guess what it will um bitcoin protects us from that uh because bitcoin is not programmable
00:49:44.480money it's dumb money it's just like gold except it's on the internet you know you can do whatever
00:49:48.720you want with it no one can confiscate it no one can tell you what you know what you can buy uh so
00:49:54.080uh so bitcoin is it fixes the money um money defined as store of wealth not currency there's
00:50:00.480a difference you know you get into like what is money but currency could be a fiat money you know
00:50:04.640it's the dollar uh it could be the peso or whatever and that's what you can buy i'm trying to keep up
00:50:08.800with you but you know so bitcoin is more like gold it's like it's like a wealth storage uh system
00:50:15.440but the um the other pillar of freedom survival is i think elon musk because uh you know he's
00:50:21.280fixing free speech with twitter with x you know and he really sees the issue there and he actually
00:50:27.040bought bitcoin you know tesla bought bitcoin i was disappointed that they sold like two-thirds of it
00:50:31.200and like he got kind of infatuated with dogecoin which was like a literally a joke meme coin
00:50:35.920But he was surprised to learn like a few weeks back, Kathy Wood noted that more compute power is being used on the Bitcoin network than the combined compute power of Google, Microsoft, Amazon, and Apple. And that compute power is used to secure the network. That's a big part of the security. And Elon was surprised by that. He did not know that. So he didn't really, even though he liked the idea of Bitcoin, he hadn't really studied it as much as I thought.
00:51:05.460But I do think that Elon is really like Hank Reardon of, you know, Atlas Shrugged.
00:51:13.640He's building an alternative Internet with Starlink, you know.
00:51:17.040And when I saw his rockets dock with the space station with astronauts and he's a private individual doing this, I'm thinking like, how do I invest in Elon?
00:51:32.640And conservatives don't like electric vehicle.
00:51:34.200They're biased against electric vehicles because, you know, the government's trying to force feed it.
00:51:38.120And it's all this climate crisis stuff, which is totally a hoax.
00:51:42.040And but, you know, so but I you know, the EVs, I think, are good there.
00:51:47.300I don't think they're good for long trips, not great for long trips, but it's great for they actually are a much better car, much more fun car to drive.
00:51:52.980They're faster. They're, you know, everything is better.
00:51:55.840But, you know, in the in the battery issue and the range issue, you know, will be fixed over time.
00:52:00.040But I really love Elon because he was a Democrat. He said he voted Democrat all his life, and then he realized that they're really anti-freedom.
00:52:08.600Elon had a great phrase, and I hadn't really thought of this before. He says, the government is a corporation. It's no different from any other corporation, but except the government has a monopoly of force, a monopoly of violence against you.
00:52:23.560Corporations don't. Other corporations don't.
00:53:59.380Without immigration, we would be literally shrinking in population.
00:54:02.000And because of China's population control policies, they're scheduled basically to go
00:54:07.120from 1.2 billion down to 600,000, 600 million people, like in the next 30 years or so, if
00:54:14.060that now they are allowing babies over in China now.
00:54:16.800But but yeah, there's a huge I mean, when you think about the Social Security system,
00:54:21.420That's a big Ponzi scheme. And if you don't have more people paying into it, right, it's going to it's going to collapse.
00:54:26.260And of course, you know, so and there's going to be just a general economic collapse, because if you don't have people who are working these jobs, you know, the corporations can't do business.
00:54:35.120And that's why they like immigration. That's why they like illegal immigration. I'm all for immigration. I just want to be legal. I want the border to be secure.
00:54:41.760You know, you're not a country without a secure border, but I'm all for lots of legal immigration.
00:54:47.060And we want to make sure we screen out the criminals and the drug cartels and so on.
00:54:51.860But, yeah, so Elon is totally red-pilled.
00:54:55.400I don't know if that's a totally red-pilled.
00:54:58.040I think what happened with his – was it a daughter or a son?
00:55:08.460I think that made him buy Twitter, actually.
00:55:11.260Well, and the way he's been attacked since buying Twitter, because, you know, the the Biden administration literally has filed like like eight different investigations, some of them criminal against him since all since he started since the Twitter thing.
00:55:26.620They don't want free speech. You know, they're trying to crush free speech and they're going after Tesla. They're going after SpaceX.
00:55:32.640They literally they literally filed a complaint against him because he wasn't hiring immigrants, illegal immigrants and asylum seekers when SpaceX literally is barred by law from hiring anybody who isn't a U.S. citizen because of the military implications of SpaceX.
00:55:48.060You know, you don't want to have, you know, people from China coming in and applying and getting a job and so forth.
00:55:52.480So he literally is barred by law. But the the Justice Department is suing him.
00:55:57.060The Civil Rights Division is suing him for not hire for discriminating against asylum seekers and illegal immigrants, literally.
00:56:04.740So, you know, and that's just one, you know. So and they're going after him on every front, you know, with advertisers.
00:56:10.500So he's under assault. So he you know, I think he's woke up. I think he I think he's become attuned to that.
00:56:16.880I don't think he realized how strong the attack would be on him from the government, from the Biden administration.
00:56:23.080You know, the Biden administration, they had this big, or the Biden White House, they had this ceremony, this big celebration, day-long thing celebrating EVs, and they didn't even invite Elon and Tesla.
00:56:33.380They celebrated Ford and all the unionized companies like Ford and GM and so forth and totally ignored Tesla when Tesla is literally the world-leading EV maker.
00:56:42.720So there's, you know, I mean, it's just incredible.
00:56:45.600Why aren't they celebrating him as the Thomas Edison and Henry Ford of our day?
00:56:50.380Why aren't they proud to have a resource like Elon Musk?
00:56:53.960Who's literally, literally he himself as an individual has the world's largest space program.
00:57:08.280I mean, he can't even he can do like the most he can do is like a little bit of, you know, get up into space a little bit and then come down.
00:57:14.560Now, Elon's docking with the space station. He's going to Mars. He's like, I mean, there's no comparison.
00:57:19.780And also, the reason that NASA has to use SpaceX or has had to use SpaceX is, and before that, they were using Russia because Russia could launch space, could launch rockets cheaper, manned space shots, I think, for like 160 billion an astronaut or something like that.
00:57:38.040and elon was able to do it for like 60 billion so literally like a third of what russia could do it
00:57:42.200and russia was able to do it cheaper than what nasa could do it so um you know they're literally
00:57:46.920discriminating against elon even though he's able to provide the cheapest best rocket travel so it's
00:57:52.280just so he is he is under all-out assault not just by you know our government but of course we're the
00:57:57.480strongest and the biggest but also by the eu you know they're trying to you know use speech codes
00:58:01.960to shut down x over there i mean i'm really i'm really thankful for elon because oh well we do
00:58:09.240without him where would we be without him we'd only have bitcoin and that might not be enough
00:58:13.480bitcoin might not be enough to save freedom i think we need somebody like elon because you need
00:58:17.800you know because he's he's a counter to google to microsoft to you know and you know tesla is not
00:58:23.960just an and not just a car company not an ev company it's a software and robotics company
00:58:28.200and plus he's got starlink and he's got spacex and you know so they're worried about him because
00:58:33.220he actually believes in freedom the chat was asking if you would go on fresh and fit and
00:58:38.560whatever podcast i think they both yeah yeah yeah i'd love to you fit like a fitness type thing
00:58:43.920no what is it fresh and fit no they're they're a big um podcast out of miami i mean i think they
00:58:49.900do do some oh yeah well i'm in for i'm in for what they're a big part so yeah i live i'm in
00:58:54.800fort lauderdale so yeah i could just come by the studio or something yeah i think that'd be a good
00:58:59.520yeah it'd be a good interview yeah can you send me a like a text or something yeah yeah i'll do it
00:59:04.420i'll i'll text i'll text him right now because yeah have them uh have them contact me give them
00:59:10.620my email that's fine you know um okay that'd be fine yeah okay yeah this is so uh but elon is
00:59:16.400really just the atlas shrugged you know hank reardon character because remember if you haven't
00:59:20.540read i'm sure you've read atlas shrugged but maybe some in your audience has hasn't and that's all
00:59:24.420about. It's an Ayn Rand book or a classic book about how this guy, Elon Musk type character was
00:59:30.360just attacked by government because they can't stand success. They can't stand somebody who is
00:59:36.300not beholden to the government. So even if you're Google, you're Microsoft, you're still beholden
00:59:42.620to the government because the government is your biggest customer. Now, Elon's not really beholden
00:59:46.140to the government, even though government's a big customer for SpaceX, but basically he's not
00:59:49.980beholden to the government well um i wanted to say you know we are going to wrap up the show a
00:59:56.900little bit but i wanted to say your story really touched me like a lot thank you uh yeah i just
01:00:02.400i've seen that happen to so many so i've seen it happen so many times to people i like know
01:00:07.440personally and just interviewing dads so i i think it was really important that it you know
01:00:14.480even though it's unfortunate like what happened it's i think it's important it got out there
01:00:18.760because it really resonated. Yeah, it really was. It was very hurtful. And nothing good can come of
01:00:24.900it. I mean, nothing really good. You know, Maddie did, you know, fired her video, which wasn't first
01:00:29.440her first video was was fine, except for those inaccuracies. But basically, I think the spirit
01:00:33.900of her video is fine. But, you know, airing these things out in public is not good. But, you know,
01:00:39.440you can make lemonade out of lemons, right? So something bad happens, and maybe good things can
01:00:44.380happen as a result of that. Maybe it can help other people. Maybe this thing that I didn't
01:00:50.500realize, maybe Maddie and I had a conflict that I didn't know about. So maybe it allows us to
01:00:54.600repair some of these bridges and build stronger bridges. I generally think good things will
01:01:03.080happen. One of my friends, he runs a big private equity fund and he's a billionaire. And he says,
01:01:10.180the thing about you, Ben, you're so optimistic. You think that things are going to turn out well.
01:01:13.740always think things are going to turn out well i think it will most most women figure it out
01:01:18.760eventually it just takes time yep so where where can the people find you um well you can my handle
01:01:28.320on x is uh benhart freedom there's an underscore after my name and uh but if you just type in
01:01:34.500benhart freedom i think the it'll easily come up over on x that's probably the best yeah that's
01:01:39.440probably the best i'm not trying to really drive people to a website if you want to buy my books
01:01:43.620I have, uh, get the man. I have another book too. I have another book too. It's called win life. And
01:01:48.700you know, people who think I'm not involved with my children, I wrote this book called win life
01:01:52.360success skills. Uh, the schools aren't teaching. You know, I wrote this book, uh, to basically
01:01:56.640help teens, uh, late people in their late teens, early twenties, uh, basically navigate life
01:02:01.640successfully. Um, it's called win life. And it's, uh, it's just basically tips on how to be
01:02:06.880successful in life. You know, what to do and what not to do. That's called win life. So there's that
01:02:10.900there's bitcoin i also wrote a book but it's not in print anymore i think i'm going to bring it out
01:02:14.900but when i was a student at dartmouth that's where i went to school yeah i went to dartmouth and
01:02:20.820graduated from there so uh my senior year at dartmouth i wrote a book called poisoned ivy
01:02:25.060and it's basically the uh how the uh america's top colleges are um waging war on freedom of
01:02:31.940thought and speech is what it was and so basically it was about the origins the whole woke ideology
01:02:36.820it was about the origins of wokeness and it was the first book really to talk about that
01:02:40.900And I called it the ethos. I didn't call it woke. I called it the ethos because it's not just about politics. They want to like basically control how you think and shape how you think. And it's not about critical thinking, you know.
01:02:51.840So now that wasn't the general tenor at Dartmouth, but it was happening in what I called victim studies departments, the women's studies, the black studies, the gender studies, the LGBT, it was gay and lesbian studies back then.
01:03:05.560Now I guess it's LGBTQ. I have nothing against LGBTQ people, by the way, but I just don't think that still should be taught to kids.
01:03:12.780right but um but anyways so i wrote a book about that and i said that these departments are
01:03:19.180are small back then they were tiny back then maybe a few professors in them but they could
01:03:23.020cause a big ruckus and they were kind of just with their the just by being louder they were
01:03:28.780kind of silencing free speech and and the administration was trying to keep what i was
01:03:33.180i was one of the founders of something called the dartmouth review which was a conservative
01:03:36.540student paper and so the administration was trying to prevent us from distributing the paper on the
01:03:40.860campus and things like that so i was talking so it's basically a book about how liberals were
01:03:45.820supposed to be for free speech freedom of thought civil liberties but in reality they're not because
01:03:51.020when they're in charge when they're actually in charge like they would be in a university setting
01:03:55.820uh and you have these kind of radical professors that are in these victim studies departments
01:04:00.300uh suddenly they're not for freedom you know they're not for free discussion they're not for
01:04:03.980debate uh and they're shouting down speakers and so forth so i look at it i look at it like
01:04:09.500masculine and feminine like liberals are either women or men that think like women
01:04:16.300because women always try to control speech and we resort to social violence
01:04:23.180yeah i mean i think the women okay so women you know and of course we're getting trouble for this
01:04:27.900but you know it's right varying versus left brain right so yeah you have art you have the artistic
01:04:32.060brain and the feelings oriented brain you know that that's part of your brain and then we have
01:04:35.500have like the math brain and the logic, the logic side on the left side. And women, I think, tend to
01:04:40.320be more right brain dominant, and men perhaps more left brain dominant. And so you have the engineers
01:04:45.200and the, you know, the mathematicians that tend to be, you know, they want to make things work. But
01:04:49.100you know, you don't want to have just mathematicians and engineers running society. You want to have a
01:04:52.860little bit of feelings, you know, you want to have a little bit of, you know, you want to have that,
01:04:55.940you certainly don't want a mathematician as your mother, probably, you know, an engineer is, you
01:05:00.220might want to have it a more nurturing type you know so um you know it's so i think there's a
01:05:05.500reason that men and women are different you know i think we were made that way for a reason you
01:05:09.740know they we kind of balance each other out well thank you very much for coming on ben it was a
01:05:15.660pleasure love love being on and uh uh you know i didn't know that much about you before i came on
01:05:22.220so i kind of looked up your stuff so i looked you're doing great stuff out there great great
01:05:26.300work and i'm sorry about the demonetization i hope they they fixed that they're reviewing us
01:05:33.260now so please youtube oh please i mean why not be for free speech you know or like say you could
01:05:41.260offer to like can i delete that like one offending phrase out or something i know i'll tell you i'll
01:05:45.500tell you what I said. It rhymes with Sanny, but with a T and an R. I can't say. Transformers,
01:06:01.220I can't. Yeah, I think it is too bad. I think YouTube would be a much better product if they
01:06:09.040allowed more free speech. And maybe they don't want to run ads. If Coca-Cola wants to run
01:06:14.220an ad maybe they don't want to be on some of the edgy stuff you know i could see that you know yeah
01:06:19.200no i agree but please youtube please i hope so well thank you very much for coming on um i'm
01:06:27.600gonna see if i can get you on um fresh and fit and whatever i just i just would like to see it
01:06:32.500i think your story is important so okay great thank you very much um i'm gonna i'm gonna talk
01:06:40.580to the chat now. All right, good. I'll sign out. You can just sign me out, I guess. Or I could
01:06:46.840just leave, right? Yeah, I think you just leave. All right. Well, Pearl, good luck, and you're
01:06:51.720doing great work, and keep going. Keep doing what you're doing. Yeah, thank you, Ben. All right.
01:06:56.780Bye-bye. Okay, guys. This is why I really encourage, you know, if his daughter is watching,
01:07:05.060okay? I know, I know, I know. You have probably thought one thing your entire life.
01:07:13.840You have probably thought your dad was the bad guy.
01:07:19.380And it's not your fault that you think like this. But generally speaking, when we go and look at
01:07:28.360facts, and I've been doing this for a long time. Generally speaking, when we go and look at facts,
01:07:36.100okay, I would just encourage you to go ask your dad for his unfiltered side of the story.
01:07:49.900I would just really encourage it because you don't know what you don't know.
01:07:54.760and I can tell that he really loves you I can tell he really wants to be a part of your life
01:08:01.700maybe you know there's two sides to every story um but I would just really really encourage you
01:08:08.720to get his take him up on his offer to hang out in LA you know um I know it's it's a little
01:08:15.960embarrassing to have this all play out on the internet I would probably be kind of embarrassed
01:08:19.860too. Um, you know, I don't think most people, you know, you think one thing your whole life,
01:08:30.080it's not fun to have people publicly figure that out, you know. Um,
01:08:37.300she did another video saying she was only joking. I don't know, but I would just encourage you
01:08:45.340to get your dad's side of the story because you really, you really don't know until you know.
01:08:49.860Okay, well, guys, thank you so much for watching today. Says Maddie loves her dad. I know,
01:08:59.580wasn't he a great guy? You can just tell. He's just an enthusiastic good guy. Let me know. Oh,
01:09:08.400I'm going to text Myron and see if he wants to have him on. I just would love to see that. I
01:09:13.060think he'd be a good guest. Guys, make sure you like the video on your way out. Subscribe to the
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