Pearl - March 20, 2024


"She Only Cared About Herself" Pearl Interviews Guests LIVE On Their Mothers Part 2


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33 minutes

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5,459

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133

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

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In this episode, I speak with my ex-wife Hillary. Hillary shares her experience of growing up in a broken family and how it affected her and her children growing up as a single mom in the late 90s and early 2000s.

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00:00:00.520 Hello. Oh, hi. Oh, my gosh. Wow. It's nice to speak to you in person.
00:00:07.540 Hi. Nice to meet you. What's your name?
00:00:10.660 Hillary. Hillary. And age?
00:00:14.360 36. 36. Profession?
00:00:17.600 I'm a mechanical design engineer. Oh, cool. That's awesome. You have kids? No kids?
00:00:23.940 Three kids. Oh, three. Wow. That's awesome. Still married?
00:00:26.940 no um i've been divorced now for uh two and a half years okay okay so what type of mother was
00:00:36.380 your mother and what type of mother are you okay so um going through the uh the different types
00:00:44.840 that you had talked about um i would say that she was kind of a blend of a few of them with
00:00:53.220 maybe a different one thrown in because, um, early on in my life, my parents divorced when
00:00:59.520 I was seven. So, um, early on in life, she was the, the traditional, uh, wife and mother
00:01:07.940 when she was with my dad. And, um, I think over time, you know, as I was a kid in the 90s and
00:01:15.780 and early 2000s and it became more of like uh the about she became like the more it's about me kind
00:01:24.100 of mom um after like towards the end of their marriage it was more about her going to school
00:01:31.440 and and uh learning a profession and more about her career and everything and then as a single mom
00:01:38.740 it became about her, uh, dating life, work. Um, so I would, I would say she was more of a distracted
00:01:48.520 mom, um, where she just had, uh, so many other things going on, like focusing on, on my stepdad
00:01:56.200 and that relationship, which is fine. You know, I understand that like once, once you're married,
00:02:02.220 married your husband needs to come first and everything but um everything kind of regarding
00:02:08.800 her children kind of fell to the wayside so um yeah i would say that that's kind of uh the type
00:02:16.900 of mother that she was and then as i got older more that you saw more the competitiveness um
00:02:23.400 where, you know, when I graduated high school, she was graduating college. Um, and I saw more
00:02:33.620 of the, Oh, when I was this age, I weighed this much. And the comparisons kind of started as I
00:02:40.020 got older. So if that makes sense. And how did that affect you as a kid? Um, I'm not sure that
00:02:50.140 I ended up as a teenager when I was 17, I ended up going to live with my dad just because
00:02:56.860 the tension kind of being in the home with her was a lot.
00:03:02.760 And I had always been more of like closer to my dad.
00:03:07.840 And when they divorced, actually, if I had been old enough to choose, I would have chosen
00:03:12.480 to go live with my dad because he was a provider.
00:03:15.820 His home was more stable.
00:03:16.880 so i i definitely would have gone that route earlier on if i could have um but uh it definitely
00:03:26.240 things got tense and then there was some resentment um between she and i of you know
00:03:32.540 you're only going to live with your dad because you know he he's stable or like you know has has
00:03:40.060 money you think he'll just get you whatever you want this kind of thing and he was not wealthy
00:03:45.000 at all he you know after the divorce he lost basically everything so that was mothers hate
00:03:52.860 mothers hate daughters that do that they hate they hate they hate it when the daughter picks the dad
00:03:58.200 yeah I could and I guess I could see like having gone through that myself I could see how that
00:04:04.660 would be um difficult but I think that she was really blessed to have the the kind of dad that
00:04:13.940 my father was to me. I think she was blessed in that respect to have a partner like him and
00:04:20.360 co-parenting. And she just didn't, she wasn't appreciative of it. So. Did you feel, did you
00:04:26.360 feel like you became your mother or do you think you're different than her? Um, no, I really see
00:04:34.240 and see that was kind of where I made my, my mistake is that I wanted to be like so different
00:04:40.560 from her, that that was what kept me in the relationship that I was in for so long. And I'm
00:04:49.180 not, I know, like you talk on your show about how women will trash the guys. I won't go into that.
00:04:56.940 But I, I did everything that I could to, to stay in that. And it was only when things got to the
00:05:07.540 point that it started negatively affecting my children that, um, that I had to get out. Uh,
00:05:14.940 and it was, um, I don't like to use extreme examples or anything like that, but, but I will
00:05:24.240 say it got to that point where, um, it was taking a toll on my children and I just absolutely, uh,
00:05:31.960 and was it a substance like a substance it was substance abuse um and uh so
00:05:41.640 yeah substance abuse there was just some mental issues there that um i think i i was naive to a
00:05:51.580 lot i grew up southern baptist so i didn't grow up around you know like drug use or drinking or
00:05:57.240 anything like that um so I didn't I wasn't aware of like the signs to look to look for
00:06:04.240 and um so it just did your dad like him when you first met him looking back on it I I don't think
00:06:13.660 he did and and I met uh so my ex-husband the father of my my three kids uh I met him when I
00:06:20.000 was 17 turning 18 um and i think that i don't think my dad liked him um if he if my dad had
00:06:30.500 come to me and said something this this is where uh i wish you know like i could go say i could say
00:06:39.500 that i wish i had done a lot of things differently but i wish that he would have felt um more
00:06:47.060 confident and speaking up and saying, I don't think this is the man for you. And, and I think
00:06:53.160 that, um, probably the culture that he grew up in at the time where it was happy wife, happy life.
00:07:00.520 And my mom was kind of in that same age range as like princess Diana, where like, that was the
00:07:06.040 trendy thing to do is if you're not happy, just leave the marriage. It's like, like you deserve
00:07:11.320 to be happy and you should do whatever it takes to get to that point. Um, and he grew up kind of
00:07:16.840 in that culture that's ruled by women. And so I don't think he felt like it was his place to speak
00:07:22.940 up. And I really wish he would have. How old's your youngest? He's five. So I found out actually
00:07:35.160 the day that he was born as I was going into surgery. I don't know why it was that day,
00:07:40.660 that time, but that was the time that my ex decided to come clean about, uh, the substance
00:07:47.900 use and everything, the, the day that I had him. So, and I, I, I take full responsibility. I mean,
00:07:54.020 like I had three children with this man, you know, so there, you know, there's, there's a lot
00:08:00.240 of stuff that I have to take ownership of, of, you know, that's the person that I chose. And
00:08:04.820 that's the decision that I have to live with and I have to to take up to my kids and say
00:08:11.680 I'm I'm sorry like I failed you because this is the man that I picked how it's gonna be how has
00:08:17.500 he done since has he like recovered at all or how is he doing now um in some ways when it when it
00:08:25.360 comes to uh like the the anger and the the controlling stuff and the like the scariness
00:08:35.020 of things um in some ways like that's become a lot better and i deal with him a lot better because
00:08:41.860 i'm not like uh afraid to deal with him anymore because the sometimes the the scariest part isn't
00:08:50.420 like actually getting out of it it's like once you're out like you think that there are going to
00:08:54.520 be that they're gonna come in and take revenge somehow but um uh in a lot of ways he's he's he's
00:09:03.880 doing well now like in his his career but he hasn't stabilized really he's basically um he he lived
00:09:10.740 with a girlfriend for a while now he's basically homeless and um you know so it's he's basically
00:09:19.420 homeless like he can't afford his rent and stuff no he he could if he wanted to he's just not he's
00:09:25.500 basically like a child living in a 37 year old's body and i don't i know i'm gonna get so much hate
00:09:31.400 probably like in the chat for this for like because i'm not don't worry about the chat it's
00:09:35.540 fine but um they turn on me so it's all right they turn on me all the time but yeah it's uh
00:09:43.080 in a lot of ways, like I, in a lot of ways, I I'm like the, the, on the man's side of this,
00:09:52.280 where like in a traditional sense, if the, if, if I were a man, then, you know, I would have to
00:09:59.380 be the one like paying him for things. And even though like he, he can't care for the children
00:10:04.180 and things like that. And so it's, I kind of treat him like I would treat a, he's a very
00:10:13.460 feminine man now to me. And in a lot of sense, like he calls me a, what is it, a misogynist.
00:10:22.060 And because I, I have told him, I'm like, you need, you need to help provide for your children.
00:10:27.640 and uh you know like these are you helped create them and i'm not asking for child support or
00:10:35.780 anything i i've just asked you know like please get yourself into a position where you can
00:10:41.400 you know see them you can visit them and it doesn't have to be like coming to pick them up
00:10:47.560 to spend time with them so his his career is doing a lot better he's stabilized um and he's
00:10:53.840 actually gotten promotions and everything and in his job so that he's on track with and I'm
00:11:00.100 trying to help him get to a point um where he can where he's a normal adult so that he can be a dad
00:11:07.940 so do you you have an you have an engineering job yeah are you able to then afford because
00:11:15.040 that I just imagine that pays recently well you can at least afford it yeah yeah no that's that's
00:11:21.140 one area that I'm very blessed in. And, and I will say like, I have to give him credit because
00:11:26.100 during some of the time that we were together, so we were together, uh, 15 years and then married
00:11:33.160 for 13. Um, so like six or seven of those years, he was working a steady job that paid well.
00:11:40.880 And it actually like afforded me the ability to go back to the school. And, um, then there was
00:11:47.040 like the last three or four years of our marriage, he just quit working. He, that was when he
00:11:53.160 started having some, some mental issues. And, um, so I had finished my, uh, degrees and he said,
00:12:02.220 uh, he, he stopped working. He just decided to stop working. And, um, so I was like, well,
00:12:07.980 this would be a good time for you to go back to school. And cause he had, he only had a GED at
00:12:13.900 the time. But I said, you know, you could go back to school for whatever you want and I'll
00:12:19.120 carry the weight of this and we'll work it out and everything. So he provided well enough that
00:12:27.600 during that time when I was in school, it was going to school full-time, working part-time
00:12:33.860 and then taking care of the kids, taking care of the house. And so that was kind of our dynamic
00:12:39.460 for for the good years i'll say for the you know um we had probably seven to nine years that were
00:12:48.280 fairly quiet we would have drama and stuff still going on but but fairly tolerable so you think
00:12:56.080 that if he like got his act together there'd be room for like reconciliation at some point
00:13:01.180 it seems like you had a good thing going at least in the beginning
00:13:05.180 um you know like it seems like that could be recreated or do you think he's too far gone
00:13:11.960 um i i can't so
00:13:16.040 i don't think that i could ever get to a place where um where i could ever uh love him again
00:13:26.140 the way that he deserves to be loved i think that if you're gonna um forgive someone and stay
00:13:31.740 in that relationship, then, um, you need to, uh, be able to kind of go with a clean slate
00:13:38.420 and have an open heart with them. And I think that the damage that was done is just too much.
00:13:45.620 And I think that he also will fall into these tendencies to go back to, um, how he treated me.
00:13:53.380 I think once you get used to treating someone a certain way, that that doesn't go away easily.
00:13:58.300 And so the boundaries that he's used to me not having and not standing up to and everything,
00:14:05.820 because his girlfriend, now ex-girlfriend, she had very good boundaries.
00:14:11.200 She had better boundaries than I did.
00:14:13.940 She stood up to him to a lot of things that I didn't stand up for myself in.
00:14:19.620 So I've kind of seen that.
00:14:22.120 And I just don't think, I think he falls into the pattern of treating me a certain way.
00:14:29.740 And I just can't, I think everybody deserves to be loved to their fullest extent, as cheesy as that probably sounds.
00:14:39.760 But if you can't, like just with adultery or anything else, if you can't get past it, then you should let that person go so that they can have a chance with someone else.
00:14:51.040 Do you think, like, would he tell the story the same way?
00:15:02.700 I think he would tell it in a very similar way.
00:15:11.480 But he would probably leave out the part.
00:15:14.460 So I've heard him tell this story, and I've heard from other people, you know,
00:15:21.040 the story that he does tell. And so the things that he throws in is the, is the things that
00:15:28.680 I did wrong. And I, and, uh, there, there was plenty, there, there were plenty of things
00:15:37.160 that I did wrong that I, I let myself go. Um, it wasn't really that, um, like in, in
00:15:44.540 an intimate sense, there, there were never any issues with anything like that. Um, but
00:15:51.040 but i mean i couldn't have given up and not had regrets about this unless i had done everything
00:15:59.680 in my power to try to save it and he knows that he he knows how how hard i tried to get him
00:16:08.320 to to change and the thing is like people won't change unless they want to and um i i mean i was
00:16:15.360 in church for a long time you know i'm in the south so that's kind of a given but um but i i
00:16:23.200 listened to everyone else that said if you just pray hard enough if you if you just believe enough
00:16:28.000 if you're the wife that you're supposed to be that will make him become the husband that he's
00:16:32.160 supposed to be and it just became a matter of like i can't change a person so what kind of
00:16:41.120 a mother do you think you are to your kids it's impossible to be objective and in that question
00:16:50.480 i think um and uh i mean i'll try my my kids um so like some so my oldest is 15 i have two daughters
00:17:02.860 15, 12, and my son is five. Um, there are plenty of times that they don't like me for, for lots of
00:17:15.120 things for, uh, being too strict. Um, but I don't, um, that's, that's a difficult question, but I try
00:17:27.740 to be okay i'm not judging you i'm just wondering no no i it's a it's a good question um i was
00:17:35.840 listening to the descriptions and trying to find one that you maybe i fell into you can make one
00:17:42.960 up if you think of one you know i i i wouldn't be able to come up with the name but i guess i guess
00:17:49.000 it would be, um, I just want everybody in my household to have peace for, for so long.
00:17:58.420 We, we were kind of, I mean, at least myself and my oldest too, uh, we had to walk on eggshells.
00:18:07.520 We couldn't, um, really make jokes or cut up the way that we wanted to in our house.
00:18:13.020 Um, I, I try for my household to be, um, peaceful most of the time for, for them to be comfortable.
00:18:22.920 Um, I do have rules that they have to follow, but, um, and I try to teach them as much of,
00:18:32.380 uh, like kind of the red pill things, um, of just to make them aware of what they're
00:18:40.600 going to encounter later on.
00:18:42.100 And I don't like to think of myself as raising children.
00:18:45.620 I feel like my role is to raise future adults.
00:18:51.280 So I'm trying to prepare them for things that they're going to need to know.
00:18:54.340 And a lot of times they'll ask me, like, how do you just know how to do these things?
00:18:59.820 Like, how do you just know how to go and open a checking account?
00:19:02.840 Or how do you know, like, what you're supposed to do with your taxes or, you know, different
00:19:10.700 it's kind of different things that they're just amazed by even when it comes to like chores you
00:19:18.640 know and and i'll um like my kids were kind of stunned one time when i just put the fitted sheet
00:19:24.580 on they're like you you got that on the right way like in the first try and it's kids are are just
00:19:29.820 funny and in some of their their observations but um i would say i'm mostly laid back i'm not
00:19:40.000 I definitely don't think I'm a helicopter parent, but I like to check in.
00:19:45.220 I want for them to do their best and I let them know like,
00:19:49.140 hey, I see where you got a C on this.
00:19:52.380 Do you really think that that was your best?
00:19:54.520 Or, you know, I'm not going to pressure them to go into a certain role
00:19:58.880 because I think that the way that I went through school was unorthodox,
00:20:04.520 even though I had had a plan set in place when I was in school.
00:20:08.200 But, um, the way I've gone about my life is kind of out of order and it continues to be.
00:20:14.980 Um, and I, I've made plenty of mistakes.
00:20:17.560 And so I just want them to have the foundation of like, this is what you do to take care of
00:20:23.140 yourself.
00:20:24.120 This is how you're supposed to take care of others.
00:20:26.700 This is how you respect the things and the people around you.
00:20:30.780 and this is how you have success and and how you allow like others to treat you or not treat you
00:20:39.080 and this is how to get the best treatment so I mean they've made you know they're in their
00:20:45.040 teenage years so they make some what would I call that like um yeah they they're in that phase of
00:20:53.380 like makeup and they do different they want to do different things to their hair and all this stuff
00:20:57.620 and i tell them like listen you can make that point it's three girls
00:21:02.300 no the the two older ones are girls so my my youngest is five he kind of he doesn't care
00:21:08.120 like about anything right now so um but i i tell them i'm like you can do that but you need to
00:21:15.140 you can dress that way you can look that way but you need to understand that the way that you're
00:21:19.560 presenting yourself to the world they're going to make assumptions based on what you look like
00:21:24.320 and that's just how it is and it doesn't make it right and it doesn't make it fair because they're
00:21:28.640 like well if somebody's going to think of me like that then i don't want it and i'm like no no that's
00:21:33.540 not how it works that your first impression is everything and even though you may be
00:21:41.280 the the most precious person on the inside people are going to judge you
00:21:46.800 uh on what you look like and how you carry yourself how you speak how you act and uh
00:21:54.320 you know that lesson for them right now is very difficult as as teenage girls and and i had to
00:22:02.200 tell them you know like you don't need to you're not gonna go out looking like a hoe like i just
00:22:07.040 i don't know if you can say that on youtube but um you can like you you're not like cover you need
00:22:14.420 to have everything covered um you need to like treat your own self with respect and um do you
00:22:24.320 no that's a daily battle yeah it's not i mean that age is hard that age is hard yeah
00:22:31.880 yeah it's it's a daily battle of they come out of their rooms uh i make comments and then they
00:22:40.160 go right back into their rooms to fix it like it's it's like okay we're not doing that you can
00:22:44.760 turn right around and go put more clothes on or like you know you just have to and it comes off
00:22:51.620 is mean to them but it's it's for their best interest you know so you have to be protective
00:23:00.960 um and and also with work my oldest one uh works and I've had to tell her well you know you've
00:23:08.040 like she's very responsible and she's a great kid I'm like you know people will judge you based on
00:23:16.000 how you look and they will treat you a certain way based on how you look if you want your life
00:23:20.720 to be easy you know just calm things down don't be so don't be as dramatic like you know we don't
00:23:30.120 always have to make a statement with with what we're wearing or you know even if that's your
00:23:36.380 your fashion and and who you are and and all this stuff like there's a time and a place and and so
00:23:43.680 it's a lot of those lessons, but. Well, well, thank you for calling into the show.
00:23:50.840 Thank you for speaking. I mean, like, it's just been amazing talking to you. My boyfriend is like
00:23:54.980 the biggest Pearl fan. He, that's actually like how, how, um, I started like subscribing to your
00:24:02.220 channel and everything. And, um, so it's, I'd say your contents really helped me a lot. And,
00:24:08.300 um, this conversation has been just wonderful speaking with you. Yeah. Thank you for calling
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00:25:42.100 okay never mind i thought i saw i got a notification and i thought it was something
00:25:50.340 completely different i'll tell you later okay um all right so what kind of so again see look
00:25:59.460 it i'm so good i'm so good this woman this woman she had the competing mother so i'm going to go
00:26:08.500 through the archetypes one more time for those who don't remember by the way if you have other
00:26:13.940 descriptions these are just the ones i came through but i thought of so many more but i just
00:26:18.740 i thought i didn't have time we have the helicopter mom the best friend mom the competitive mother
00:26:23.560 the career mother, the princess treatment housewife, the nagging lazy housewife, the pass
00:26:29.480 on your trauma to your mother, the retirement plan mother, the son husband mother, and the
00:26:34.280 Proverbs 31 mother. Maybe you got lucky. I don't know. I don't know. You guys tell me. I'm not the
00:26:41.580 end all be all. I don't know everything. I don't know what's going on. Like I'm getting people
00:26:46.000 from the South. I'm getting people from the Netherlands. I'm getting people everywhere.
00:26:49.480 i don't know okay so put the next one
00:26:53.440 hello hey how are you good how are you all right what is your name yon yon okay yon how old are you
00:27:06.780 40 all right 40 do you have kids are you married married 18 years four kids four kids okay and
00:27:14.640 what type of mother oh wait and where are you uh north uh northwest northwest okay so what type of
00:27:22.560 mother was your mother i'm not exactly sure but pure feminist okay that's all i could actually
00:27:29.760 purely described she divorced my father and i was still my father she told me all the horrific
00:27:34.960 horrible abusive he was um and then i think about four or five years ago i found out well he passed
00:27:43.360 he died in a different country i thought there's going to be a western thing only no it's also east
00:27:48.960 as well russia everywhere it happens everywhere and it happened past generations too all this
00:27:54.720 feminism stuff so i never i never met him but my sister you never met your father yeah i never met
00:28:03.600 my father so they divorced before i was born oh wow yeah he hit my sister supposedly and
00:28:10.480 He was this horrific guy, you know, the worst of the worst.
00:28:14.080 He was over six feet, though, too.
00:28:17.600 But anyway, come to find out, so he had nothing to do with me,
00:28:22.680 but he would take my sister out for all her birthdays.
00:28:28.260 So if he was so horrific and abusive, and this is where it kind of clicked,
00:28:32.520 because I was like, well, he was a horrible man.
00:28:34.500 I don't want anything to do with him.
00:28:36.120 I mean, you never saw me.
00:28:37.200 I never wanted to see him either.
00:28:38.400 but come to find out when he died my sister came and told me the truth that well she used to take
00:28:44.960 her out on her birthdays every single time and i'm like well if he's so abusive and so horrible
00:28:49.900 this was before i got red pill on everything so i started questioning i'm like why would mom allow
00:28:56.540 him to take you out on your birthday give you gifts if he was so abusive and so scary how does
00:29:03.140 that go into things so my mom she she's still alive but we don't talk i completely i'm i'm in
00:29:10.440 the more extreme side of things so i totally erased her for my life period she can't see my
00:29:16.020 her grandkids nothing um come to find out basically it's all been a lie and i don't know exactly how
00:29:24.700 she kind of broke our relationship maybe she said to him she cheated maybe she did cheat i don't
00:29:32.240 know i do look like him so i don't know but basically my whole entire life you know by my
00:29:37.200 father and all the scary stories that she told me about him that how horrible he was
00:29:40.980 and uh abusive it was a lie but it's you know find out after he died wow so so how how old
00:29:49.080 were you when you found out 35 wow how did that change your worldview that i do have changed
00:29:56.420 everything it started to change a lot of things that's how i came across of you know me and my
00:30:01.780 wife we had our own little issues and stuff but i came across a kevin samuels and my wife found you
00:30:06.140 actually so and we've been good and my mother also tried to destroy my marriage they do that
00:30:13.260 you do that yeah she tried to say my wife was the worst you know horrible thing and so on and so on
00:30:19.480 so i'm thinking it was a lot of projection going on yeah so to be a healthier marriage we've never
00:30:26.200 been happier than ever but the last four over four years i literally erased her from my life
00:30:33.160 like completely and guess what my marriage got better family's great everybody's doing great
00:30:40.360 so i told her i'm never gonna show up to her funeral or anything i'm done i'm just the way
00:30:45.160 she did it to me and my father i'm just gonna do that to her so well and this is got like ladies
00:30:51.320 this is what i'm saying when you trash your ex the kids figure sometimes they figure it out at 12
00:30:56.100 sometimes they figure it out at 15 sometimes they figure it out at 35 but people are not stupid
00:31:02.220 people talk and they figure it out eventually and many times the children will cut you off
00:31:08.540 when you figure it out so tread carefully i mean exactly yeah i told her die alone
00:31:13.980 that's literally i that's the words i use like that's it i'm done
00:31:18.120 so i don't know what category to put her but extreme feminist yeah of the alcohol you know so
00:31:26.180 all men are bad so why men are evil oh so do you know so did your sister have a good relationship
00:31:32.840 with him until she was older too like did she see him when she got wow and she never so they're
00:31:38.320 literally no it was like a secret it's it's weird did you ask her why yeah she's like well mom
00:31:45.880 didn't want me to tell you and i'm like no way what well that's what it made me wonder because
00:31:52.760 i have four uh three boys and a girl and i was wondering i was talking to my wife i'm like what
00:31:58.480 will make a man not to see his son he'll see his daughter but he will never see his son like
00:32:04.120 you know my first son i know my first kid was son the second one too i mean it was to me it
00:32:11.280 was the greatest thing it was oh i have a son wow you know what i mean i want to be the father i've
00:32:16.220 never had what would make man not to see his kids i mean actuality you know is he really that horrible
00:32:24.500 so he chooses one but not the other so it made me wonder and i started thinking and i'm like
00:32:29.240 did she cheat it paternity you know that's what we need to do did you ever get it tested to see
00:32:35.760 if you have the same dad ah well no because he was in a different country we came from the soviet
00:32:41.760 side no i meant like you and your sister like if you did a dna test like if you did 23. no
00:32:47.680 my sister took my mom's side so i don't talk to my sister for four years as well
00:32:51.680 i eliminated both of them that's what that's what i'm vengeful when the no when when the kid
00:32:57.760 when whoever in the family wait like figures it out first the mom will always try to get
00:33:02.560 everyone to like go against him oh yeah yeah absolutely yeah always yeah well and i don't
00:33:08.480 play games yeah you said you're you're from the soviet or you're russian yeah russia so
00:33:14.820 yeah you guys yeah okay well thank you very much for calling in
00:33:19.620 hey you're doing great work thank you