Pearl - March 28, 2024


"She Wants As Much Money As Possible" Gerald EXPOSES Steven Crowder's Ex-Wife And Her Dark Intention


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Length

45 minutes

Words per Minute

210.31589

Word Count

9,574

Sentence Count

177

Misogynist Sentences

27

Hate Speech Sentences

18


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Join us this week as we discuss the fallout from the revelation that the details of the divorce between Steven and Hillary had been leaked to the public by her ex-husband, Steven, and his lawyer. We talk about the fallout, why this should never have happened, and why Hillary should be allowed to move on with her life.

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00:00:00.000 hello hey how are you i'm good how are you i am doing well busy day but doing well yeah i can
00:00:11.120 tell so what so i'm curious how long has this been going on so we we know that there has been
00:00:22.720 uh this kind of extortion scheme from hillary at least for the last year and a half
00:00:27.360 but it's been going on for basically since the divorce was filed in late 2021 and we didn't
00:00:34.960 really know the full extent of what was going on we knew that the divorce was going to go public it
00:00:39.200 was then leaked not by us but by somebody else and then we had to address the fact that there
00:00:45.520 was a divorce that actually existed because we knew that the strategy was going to be to to try
00:00:50.160 and leverage in some way the the publicity that could be negative just for the mere fact of having
00:00:56.320 a divorce and uh and little did we know that behind the scenes all of this scheming um was
00:01:02.720 going on but for about the last i don't know for about the last year or so we've known uh that this
00:01:08.640 has been going on while we've been taking all of these punches yeah along the way yeah and it's
00:01:13.680 not like you guys have been responding at all you guys have ignored it for the most part
00:01:19.440 no and it's that i think pearl that's one of the most frustrating things about this is that
00:01:22.880 we tried to just keep our heads down do the work that we do and put a show together for people to
00:01:27.840 laugh at to enjoy to you know hear current events and you know what's going on in politics all the
00:01:32.640 different like cultural aspects of the show that we really enjoy and kept getting hit pieces is
00:01:38.080 coming out you know kept getting things being said about us kept having to deal with interviews that
00:01:42.320 were being given all these different things that were going on and we just said look let's just do
00:01:45.600 what we do and hopefully these people will honor their commitments at some point they'll say you
00:01:50.800 you know what in jared's case he'd been gone from the business for about six years somewhere around
00:01:55.780 there maybe it's time to move on with life maybe it's time not to be involved in any of this stuff
00:02:00.500 anymore and certainly not to violate an agreement that he entered into willingly in the first place
00:02:05.760 and and for for hillary you know just to get this done and behind her so that she can move on with
00:02:09.740 her life and focus on her family yeah i genuinely want that even even now knowing what's going on
00:02:15.680 i still want that for her and for them i don't enjoy any of this but i i just i got put in a
00:02:22.500 position where i either had to do this and just let everybody know what was going on or keep taking
00:02:27.060 the attacks well and and the thing is we can women can get divorced and it doesn't have to be a
00:02:32.400 spectacle because i i saw her to her x account and i just thought it was so weird how this x account
00:02:38.280 comes out of nowhere all the conservatives are following it it was just like weird to me and
00:02:44.540 she's putting rebuilding from the rubble what what the hell is rebuilding from the rubble you're
00:02:48.540 getting 25k a month that sounds like a house yeah and i mean i i hate to tell you what i think it
00:02:57.160 sounded like to me i i immediately when i saw that i i just kind of fought back to her saying
00:03:02.520 that she doesn't really have social media and i thought oh no here we go like now she has social
00:03:09.520 media, like you said, all the people that were following her, um, were a little, it was a little
00:03:14.240 surprising to me, um, that that many people were following her from the kind of the conservative
00:03:18.900 sphere. Maybe they just wanted to keep an eye on what was going on. I have no idea what their
00:03:21.900 interest was there, but seeing that and seeing the kind of posts that were going up made me think
00:03:28.420 like, okay, here's, here's more of it because I knew that this PR campaign was going on to
00:03:34.540 assemble assets, to put pressure on Steven, to give her more in the divorce that she would ever
00:03:40.340 get in any kind of court. And I thought, okay, this is the vehicle. This is what she's going to
00:03:44.100 do. And part of me was still like, please just don't do this. Please don't do this. This doesn't
00:03:49.560 make sense. This isn't going to help anybody. This isn't going to help the kid. Whatever
00:03:53.000 grievances can be had in a divorce. Let's just say that is real, right? Set that aside. You can
00:03:58.280 have those grievances at some point you have to go okay it's time to end this wasting resources
00:04:05.660 really bringing a bunch of stuff into the public that doesn't need to be in the public
00:04:10.000 and not really serving the interests of either the herself or the children like just let's just
00:04:16.680 end it let's let everybody go on with their life and unfortunately it didn't seem like that was
00:04:21.500 going to be an option on the table especially given all the stuff that we had seen go on
00:04:26.940 um with this group of people that really she was recruiting to go and help in this extortion plot
00:04:32.220 and it just it just it floored me when i saw it i was like this can't be real this can't be the
00:04:38.060 kinds of text messages that are being sent around especially early on before anything had come out
00:04:42.960 i mean that's the thing that really struck me it was like before the divorce was even mentioned on
00:04:47.680 air this plan was hatched it just it just i don't know what to say i mean i it's frustrating it's
00:04:54.420 difficult to see and hopefully we can put an end to all of this hopefully this is the last time
00:04:58.340 that we will have to discuss this no even that can go away even the ring footage i knew she was
00:05:03.480 planning it i've seen it before because i i could tell that's what they were arguing about was
00:05:08.280 because she kept saying abuse so she was trying to get a ring footage to but from my point of
00:05:13.400 view anyway to like leak to the public it looked uh when i saw it it looks a little weird to me
00:05:21.120 um that that conversation i and there's some details that i can't reveal that i know about
00:05:26.460 what happened in that conversation there's some stuff that's publicly available that people can
00:05:29.960 go out and find but i just looked at it and i thought man this is weird like why are they
00:05:35.480 choosing to use this and then it it made it very clear to me why because of you know the perception
00:05:42.880 of uh steven in that moment without any context without any context of what was going on of him
00:05:50.080 you know going outside to to have a cigar um to kind of do what he would do to relax to try to
00:05:56.140 kind of decompress if there was a conversation that had happened earlier that was an argument
00:06:00.660 or a tense conversation and then to see that it just made me wonder what was going on i don't know
00:06:05.680 if it was pre-planned or not i mean i think that's for people to kind of speculate and make their own
00:06:09.400 judgment on but it just looked weird to me that that was happening and then that it was first in
00:06:14.500 in the media that that was being released when really the only thing that steven had ever said
00:06:20.260 was acknowledging the divorce and saying that he on this show wanted privacy so yeah it didn't seem
00:06:27.540 none of this look we're not victims necessarily but we have been the target we have been the
00:06:31.780 target and we have been going through a bit of a crap that's the nicest word i can think of
00:06:39.620 in this scenario and dealing with a lot of stuff that we just kind of put our heads down
00:06:43.460 took the punches and tried to just continue to do the job until we were forced to do something
00:06:48.100 different and that's what we did uh today by by putting this information out so that people could
00:06:52.660 see actual court filings not stuff that is just opinion yeah because there's been plenty of that
00:06:58.980 out there and it's been wrong well and i didn't think anything he said was disrespectful like
00:07:05.940 when he first announced the divorce at all and it was just it was all just strange to me but i'd seen
00:07:11.940 similar patterns of behavior like when i interview men that have gone through this um where they kind
00:07:18.900 of tell part of the truth but not the whole truth um so what was your did you know that
00:07:26.180 jared was going to release that video no not at all um i mean look the timeline with jared and
00:07:35.700 and if you'll give me a second i'll just kind of lay this out because this really was the impetus
00:07:38.980 for all of this um jared was in the text messages we we knew that he had been brought into this
00:07:45.700 scheme to try and uh to try and help apply pressure he inserted himself into this divorce
00:07:53.380 process and the custody at the time battle for you know who was going to have custody the kids
00:07:59.060 what would what was the custody going to look like which is normal in a divorce like you have to go
00:08:03.300 through that process to figure out how that all is going to work out and he inserts himself into this
00:08:07.060 process and it comes to my attention that he is behind the scenes doing all this stuff and
00:08:11.780 immediately we're like okay i've got to get jared to understand like out of nowhere you can't just
00:08:17.740 come back five six years later and start inserting yourself into this process and by the way you have
00:08:24.440 an nda with us like a voluntary voluntarily entered into an agreement with us and those
00:08:29.740 things can be used as simple and i know you understand what an nda is it can be used for
00:08:34.040 something as simple as making sure an address doesn't become public like steven's address that
00:08:38.200 was doxed by hillary that did become public it's a safety issue for so many people and then i so i
00:08:44.920 sent him a cease and desist all he had to do was write back and say hey all right i get it i
00:08:49.640 understand it i've overstepped some bounds uh i'll knock it off didn't do anything with that just
00:08:55.000 completely ignored it so i said okay we got to send something with a little bit more teeth
00:08:58.360 how about we do a form 202 this is what my attorney said would be something that you would do in
00:09:03.080 preparation for a lawsuit but not necessarily being required to file a lawsuit afterwards
00:09:07.960 but it does mean like hey knock it off and tell us how far this goes that's the only reason we
00:09:14.680 filed the 202 is because he completely ignored what we were doing earlier by just saying hey
00:09:19.960 knock it off cease and desist and then he releases that video now what's really interesting is that
00:09:25.560 the window for the deposition for the form 202 that we filed that the judge ruled could go forward
00:09:31.640 even after he tried to fight it the window for that deposition expired march 15th i don't know
00:09:37.460 about you today's the 27th yesterday's the 26th 11 days after the expiration of the order to give
00:09:45.240 a deposition which he had not been asked to give yet he goes out and does a video for a lawsuit
00:09:49.460 that doesn't exist i hadn't sued him yet but you saw today that i did because it became very clear
00:09:59.020 that jared was going to do whatever he could to try to apply pressure and to try to hurt
00:10:05.540 steven to hurt this company to hurt the mission and the brand everything he was going to do
00:10:10.320 everything that he could and would not stop and and it just seemed completely disingenuous to me
00:10:16.620 he was lying in his video about us saying he couldn't talk to his friends us saying that we
00:10:23.820 could ask him about any conversation he ever had no no no no just conversations about the agreement
00:10:29.520 that you voluntarily entered into conversations about the company that you said hey i'm not going
00:10:36.900 to talk about the company here's my signature those are the conversations you can talk to your
00:10:41.820 friends about whatever else you want if you want to talk about sports music politics whatever go
00:10:46.240 talk to your friends i have this is not a first amendment issue this is about honoring your
00:10:49.840 agreements. This is about being an honorable individual and not plotting behind the scenes
00:10:54.020 to try to keep a man from his kids and also put enough public pressure on him so that you could
00:10:59.500 help Hillary get more money than she would ever get in court, even though Stephen had offered
00:11:03.740 way more money than she would ever get in court. It wasn't even about that, but never. It was never
00:11:08.900 good enough. And when I saw that video, I said, okay, he's never going to stop. We have to file
00:11:13.800 suits so he understands that we are serious and guys are not unlawful at all and and i'm telling
00:11:20.920 no no and i'm telling you no i want people to understand this if i had ndas in the beginning of
00:11:26.200 my youtube career it would have solved me so many problems the issue you get with former employees
00:11:31.560 is they can say anything and they get views and money for doing so i had i had a whole year of
00:11:40.440 shit that i got because i i didn't do it i didn't see the need or i didn't care about ndas in the
00:11:45.720 beginning especially in this industry it just gives them license to literally say whatever
00:11:50.600 they want well i i wish they weren't necessary yeah i think and that's where you're coming from
00:11:56.520 too like there's this idealistic view that you should just trust people and they should be
00:11:59.720 treated well enough to where they're never going to go out and say anything it's like you don't
00:12:03.160 understand human nature i've literally had people tell me that they will move on and not say a thing
00:12:10.040 about us if we don't say a thing about them and that didn't happen i get it like i understand
00:12:14.440 i've had people with the best of intentions that they get frustrated about a situation not even
00:12:19.720 talking about here and i've had other businesses where they would get frustrated about a situation
00:12:23.800 and all of a sudden start spreading rumors because they're mad listen former employees are former
00:12:28.680 employees for a reason that can sometimes be good meaning they've taken a step in their career
00:12:33.000 they're going to go on and do something on their own that's fantastic we wish them well every
00:12:36.600 single time that that happens but sometimes it's because they couldn't do this particular job
00:12:41.800 either the skill set wasn't there or wasn't a right fit wasn't the kind of work environment
00:12:47.080 that they necessarily wanted it's a really hard job to do we get up very early in the morning and
00:12:52.360 we sprint for most of the day to make this stuff happen and that's not for everybody and i'm not
00:12:57.640 i'm not saying that that's a bad thing for them it's just not for everybody yeah but what happens
00:13:01.800 is people get frustrated and then they leave and then they have sour grapes and say well i want to
00:13:06.200 go back i mean can you imagine holding a grudge for six years that you then randomly but not so
00:13:13.240 randomly come back on just because a man is getting a divorce like it doesn't that's there's
00:13:18.600 nothing honorable about that if what uh you know jared may want to claim was true and that stephen
00:13:25.880 is the monster that nobody uh nobody sees and they should see him then he was the monster for
00:13:31.080 the entire six years that you were gone why now jared yeah why did you all of the sudden think
00:13:35.800 that this was a problem that you had to emerge from the shadows to solve i don't have any
00:13:40.360 respect for that i don't wish him ill i still don't i don't hate jared i just wish that he
00:13:44.760 hadn't done this i hate his behavior i wish he would keep his agreements and move on with his
00:13:49.000 life well he hasn't and my question when i was listening to it i just couldn't believe this many
00:13:54.840 people were like god i always call them simps like i just i couldn't believe this many people
00:14:01.080 fell for it because my thought my initial thought was okay if crowder is this like abusive guy if
00:14:08.360 he's so crazy abusive how does he still have employees that's my first question you know if
00:14:15.080 he he's so crazy like this awful workplace and then my second question was are they trying to
00:14:21.120 build a brand or make money off of it and they both were there was a literal go fund me i know
00:14:27.060 for a lawsuit that didn't exist i'm not kidding i'm not kidding when he released that video and
00:14:32.820 that call for support i had not sued him and it was clear i told our attorney when we sent over
00:14:39.140 the document for the 202 i said make sure it says in bold letters this is not a lawsuit like i don't
00:14:43.160 want there to be any confusion whatsoever yeah this is not a lawsuit this is knock it off tell
00:14:48.020 me how far it goes yeah this could be the end of it right it could have been the end of it right
00:14:52.600 there but then when he did what he did i'm like okay well this is just never going to stop and
00:14:56.740 i have to you know i have to basically go do i want to look bad for suing somebody and maybe not
00:15:02.900 respond to this and let this person just continue to trash us or do i want to defend the people that
00:15:07.780 work here the 30 plus employees that we have yeah the blood sweat and tears that they poured into
00:15:11.780 this business and the mission that we have where we got the nashville manifesto released we helped
00:15:17.700 parents in chippewa falls make sure that they were notified in the case of a school shooter
00:15:21.700 potentially and uncovered another one that happened in the spring just before the one that we talked
00:15:26.260 about that happened in the fall of last year like there are a lot of things that we do that are very
00:15:30.900 important and and very difficult things to do and i i just i just finally got to the point where i
00:15:35.380 was like well i gave him every out i hate doing this i hate the position that i'm in i take no
00:15:40.420 pleasure whatsoever in it but i have to otherwise i'm throwing these 30 plus people under the bus
00:15:46.660 and saying i don't care about you guys they put me in an untenable position and i look i hope that
00:15:51.700 that there's a reasonable resolution that can come from that.
00:15:54.540 I still hope that, but I, I can't let him continue to do this.
00:15:59.840 I just cannot do it.
00:16:01.660 No, I have literally been in that exact same position.
00:16:04.660 I've been in the exact, like very, very similar.
00:16:07.340 And so that's why everyone, everyone that's, everyone that's saying that
00:16:12.100 NDAs aren't lawful.
00:16:13.180 I'm like, you have never been in a position where you needed an NDA and I'm, I'm
00:16:17.220 happy for you.
00:16:18.280 I'm really happy for you.
00:16:20.280 But it, the issue you get, especially in media is that people can literally say
00:16:25.420 whatever they want, make money, literally make 70 K off of this.
00:16:29.960 Yeah.
00:16:30.500 Well, you were onto this pretty early, right?
00:16:33.300 You were kind of like, hold on.
00:16:34.840 Something doesn't smell right here.
00:16:37.120 Not a lot of people were, they wanted to just hate Steven.
00:16:39.940 And like you said, somebody can go out tomorrow and just make stuff up
00:16:43.080 out of thin air and it, we have no re how do we prove it didn't happen?
00:16:47.320 You can just continue to make things up as you go.
00:16:51.100 And so there is some protection provided by an NDA like, hey, this is part of it.
00:16:55.100 I have to sign NDAs, not just with this company, but with other companies and vendors and things like that.
00:17:00.120 It's like mutual non-disparagements, things that are very, very reasonable to make sure that there is some protection that you can go back and say, well, look, you said that you would do this.
00:17:09.680 And by the way, no one out there ever has to sign an NDA, ever.
00:17:15.440 I would never force anybody.
00:17:16.860 You just can't work here if you don't. That's the only thing. That is required at so many jobs. I think UPS makes you sign an NDA. Somebody can fact check me out there, but there are so many companies that make you sign an NDA so that you can't disclose proprietary or private information. It's just a normal standard thing to do, and it is not a problem with free speech.
00:17:38.520 You can believe in free speech the way that we do and we champion free speech and say, hey, by the way, you can't reveal the private address of where Steven Crowder lives because it's a security concern for him and his children.
00:17:49.520 That's the kind of stuff that we're talking about.
00:17:52.520 And it's not limited to that, but there are other things.
00:17:54.880 But that is like the most easily understandable portion.
00:17:57.340 We're like, yeah, well, that makes sense.
00:17:58.940 You cannot sign an NDA and go get a job somewhere where that's not required.
00:18:01.860 That's totally fine as well.
00:18:03.180 And when you're leaving a company voluntarily like Jared was, you certainly don't have to sign one then either.
00:18:08.520 But when you do, you need to honor your agreements.
00:18:12.580 And he hasn't been doing that.
00:18:14.520 And it's frustrating because I counted Jared as one of my friends.
00:18:18.620 And I, when he left, I didn't really have much contact, if any, with him for a long time.
00:18:23.280 But then to see him doing these kinds of things is really frustrating to me because I know
00:18:27.460 that it would have been the last thing that I would have expected from him.
00:18:31.680 And so it's difficult, but at the same time, I would rather he not make any further mistakes.
00:18:35.940 and so hopefully this lawsuit will get people's attention hey knock it off this can't keep going
00:18:41.300 on and we'll see where this goes i don't know but um i wanted to touch on one quick thing that you
00:18:47.140 said and i mentioned it briefly you've been onto this for a little while and you took a lot of
00:18:51.600 arrows for this because people said you were just defending stephen crowder that you were on our
00:18:56.520 payroll have are you on our payroll by the way because if you are i didn't know and i'm supposed
00:19:00.720 to be in charge of that it doesn't really look good if the ceo doesn't know of course not you're
00:19:05.140 not on our payroll, right? Like you were onto this and you took a lot of arrows for this. And
00:19:09.820 hopefully today people see like, Hey, you weren't bringing this from nowhere. You've seen this kind
00:19:14.780 of stuff before. And it just reeked of it initially. I'm glad you saw that because that
00:19:19.440 was very, very good to see, but I couldn't comment on it. Obviously we weren't, we weren't doing any
00:19:24.240 of that, but man, I tell you what, you can really tell, um, who your friends are when stuff like
00:19:29.580 this happens, who gives you the benefit of the doubt, who stands by your side and who doesn't.
00:19:33.960 Well, I just couldn't believe the simping. It was just driving me nuts. You guys just believe women, you know, a lot of the conservatives just believe women with a story and we need to verify these facts. And again, guys, if we're going to throw the abuse term around, you need a police report. You need one. That is the only court that is based on evidence.
00:19:53.540 yeah so i yeah i and yeah they keep this month apparently i work for you guys i work for the
00:19:59.780 daily wire like this month i work for wow you're busy i know i um i was like damn i'm demonetized
00:20:07.940 i should give them my cash out well i i think you're right like it's weird for it's it's weird
00:20:15.060 and i'm not ascribing this to any particular person so nobody read between the lines i am
00:20:18.980 speaking very generally but going back to brett kavanaugh's confirmation with uh what is it christine
00:20:23.700 blazy ford and she we're they're like believe all women like whoa whoa whoa whoa no don't just
00:20:28.500 believe all women don't believe all men don't believe all don't believe all anything yeah like
00:20:33.460 have evidence and have facts to back it up but then when something like this happens it's like
00:20:37.380 oh i stand with so and so and i was like well why what evidence do you have that what they're saying
00:20:43.540 is true like you should operate that way all the time don't get carried away with an opinion because
00:20:49.900 you dislike somebody don't get carried away with an opinion because you feel for somebody you can
00:20:53.980 still feel for somebody and say divorce is terrible i'm so sorry this is happening to you
00:20:57.800 or or with what you're going through whether they're at fault or not but don't run down the
00:21:04.760 line of oh that guy's a monster because they had an argument that involved no yelling right in that
00:21:11.920 backyard video that we saw. Don't run down that line, especially when there's years of evidence
00:21:17.200 to the contrary. There are passionate people out there. I mean, gosh, I would hate, I've been in
00:21:22.580 arguments with my wife that were more severe and we barely argue that much. So there have been
00:21:28.780 moments where you're just like, ah, honey, I wasn't at my best. I'm really sorry. And you make up and
00:21:33.520 you love one another. It's just frustrating, Pearl, because they go and they run with it and
00:21:38.700 you have to come back and go but this is what we preach against don't become something that we hate
00:21:43.340 just because it's convenient well we saw a lot of that and what i have found in a lot of these cases
00:21:48.940 women poison the well years in advance so it's almost like if maybe there was mutual friends
00:21:55.020 and i'm not saying this happened or didn't i think the facts will come out eventually so we'll see
00:22:00.380 but what i have found is that women poison the well with mutual friends colleagues etc and so
00:22:07.100 when you know a clip or something goes viral they'll all confirm it because they've heard
00:22:12.220 stories from this woman for years um and i i find that that's like every other divorce case i
00:22:19.520 interview yeah and i you know i don't have a lot of experience with divorce cases i had um my one
00:22:26.960 of my best friends went through divorce but i didn't really know much about it at the time
00:22:30.200 this has been a crash course um in the tactics of a divorce and it is eye-opening it is eye-opening
00:22:37.340 to see the system and how it is uh structured and it almost takes somebody who hasn't been divorced
00:22:44.200 to be able to help reform the system because otherwise you're just kind of somebody who's
00:22:47.860 been divorced and you're frustrated about what happened to you well i haven't been divorced
00:22:51.820 don't plan on it ever my wife and i have talked about this we will we will figure out a way
00:22:57.520 rather than go through divorce. But the system does need to change. It really, really does. It
00:23:04.060 is geared towards women and against men. And sometimes, look, I understand why those things
00:23:09.120 evolve. Don't get me wrong. I understand that there can be a power imbalance in a lot of these
00:23:13.780 relationships, but it doesn't mean right and wrong. It doesn't mean somebody is the victim
00:23:17.020 and somebody is the aggressor. So we've got to get away from that. And we've also got to get away
00:23:22.200 from the ease with which people get divorced. It's terrible. As a Christian, I want people to
00:23:28.620 respect marriage, to get married, to have a family, but to do it thoughtfully. And seeing
00:23:35.940 the divorce tear families apart, seeing this divorce specifically and what it's done, my gosh,
00:23:41.980 man, make good choices. And then if stuff gets tough, just try to work it out. And I know that's
00:23:47.640 what was happening here. It was being worked on at the time of the divorce being filed. It was
00:23:52.160 being worked on and i just wish that that process had been able to play out well there's a guidebook
00:23:57.500 you know it's called how to destroy a man have you read really yeah no it's called how to destroy a
00:24:03.360 man it's exactly what she's doing actually there's like a guidebook you can find it online on how to
00:24:09.080 use the system to destroy men um and it's it goes as far to use the media to destroy men because the
00:24:16.580 way that the media reports on information. As we saw, it's as if he was guilty. It even goes so
00:24:25.340 far to describe that if the victim is a woman or a child, the media is more likely to report on it.
00:24:30.780 It also tells you how to use the police. Because if there's ever a story that indicates that they
00:24:37.420 might be incompetent, they're more likely to act. And it's really effed up, actually. There's an
00:24:43.000 entire guidebook that instructs women on how to do this and it's completely legal so i really think
00:24:48.440 that this should be number one of the number one issues um to be honest for conservatives this
00:24:53.560 election you know um because i i personally think men aren't going to vote until there's some
00:25:00.920 you know the one party at least starts to cater to their issues or at least try to like it's it's
00:25:08.200 you're in a weird position as a man excuse me who's you know a white male you're not you're
00:25:12.920 not really a part of any protected class that you can really depend on and uh apparently everything's
00:25:18.520 been easy for you in life that's not the case like and i'm not crying poverty either saying
00:25:23.400 like oh my gosh my life has been so hard yes there's been challenges in my life but i've been
00:25:26.760 very blessed i get it but it's not because i'm white or male where there's some advantages yeah
00:25:31.720 but i can squander them i have tons of people that i can point to that are white and male and losers
00:25:36.120 right i get it like you you can have all of the advantages quote unquote in the world and still
00:25:40.840 it doesn't help you at all i i just think it you end up in a difficult position when none of this
00:25:47.160 seems kind of geared towards you and they would argue that the entire system is and i'm like well
00:25:51.880 name it talk to me about the systems right now that favor men not just white men but men in
00:25:58.520 general you certainly can't point to divorce laws marriage law anything like you can't point to any
00:26:03.080 of that stuff you certainly can't point to getting into college uh and having you know quotas for
00:26:08.520 that you certainly can't point to any of that you certainly can't run on being a man for any office
00:26:13.080 you certainly can't be appointed to supreme court simply because you're a woman right we saw them
00:26:17.560 basically list the top qualification for uh kentaji uh jackson brown brown jackson brown jackson i
00:26:23.720 always say it backwards as being a black female and i was like well hold on i need i need somebody
00:26:27.960 who's a great judge first and foremost right so i think you're right that there is this group of
00:26:33.800 voters out there that is feeling completely left behind by politicians because they just assume
00:26:39.640 everything's okay not everything's okay and you're starting to see it play out in relationships and
00:26:45.240 men not wanting to date not wanting to get married it's not because they don't like women they do
00:26:49.800 it's just that this is such a difficult time to be a young man trying to find a partner a wife
00:26:57.000 for life and it's just sometimes it's just easier not to it's easier just to go you know what this
00:27:02.680 is this is crazy i don't want to be a part of this and that tears at the fabric of our society
00:27:07.960 and so something does have to be done i don't know what all the answers are for this but something
00:27:12.760 has to be done people have to take an honest look at it and go you know what what's happening over
00:27:17.480 there right now that's not okay we've got to change it i don't care who the class of person
00:27:21.480 is male female white black it doesn't matter hispanic asian none of that none of that matters
00:27:25.880 that's not right so let's go and fix that to make sure that men don't feel like they can't do
00:27:32.440 anything right and women don't feel like they don't do anything wrong there's got to be this
00:27:38.440 middle ground that we come back to where we're all people that are trying to do our very best
00:27:42.840 and we're protected equally and if you really look into it some of the laws are straight up sexist
00:27:48.120 you know like the tender years doctrine assumes that um women raise better children under the age
00:27:53.480 of seven um sometimes it's up to 16 and there's no evidence that supports it the woman is actually
00:27:59.000 the most likely one to abuse the child over 100 years of data um then they also if you're you if
00:28:07.320 there's paternity fraud meaning a man's raising a kid that's not his um in the state of california
00:28:12.680 if that happens over the age of two he's still on the hook for um child support for life because
00:28:18.200 the laws are right their laws are written in the best interest of the child and not the best and
00:28:23.160 that's basically the best interest of the mother because um again and women are also incentivized
00:28:28.840 to i mean as you've seen to get more time with the child so they can get more money so they're
00:28:34.120 essentially paid to and single father homes fare pretty much the same as single uh or as
00:28:40.520 two parent homes where single mother homes fare significantly worse um so it's actually all the
00:28:47.000 evidence suggests that men should have the custody of the children and yet it's given to women
00:28:51.320 yeah i think that's a a heartstrings thing i really do and i mean it makes sense like women
00:28:57.360 are supposed to be the the of the two if you had to just pick general man general woman the woman
00:29:01.760 is supposed to most likely be the more nurturing right and that makes some sense but it isn't
00:29:07.660 always true yeah and so you just can't make these blanket general rules that have perverse incentives
00:29:13.720 as well right the perverse incentive is if i can get past the age of two with this guy thinking
00:29:18.280 it's his child, then I'm all good in California. That's ridiculous. It doesn't make any sense at
00:29:22.980 all to do something like that. And if you can just make good rules for men's involvement based
00:29:30.620 on data, then everybody can at least look at the data and go, that makes sense. But really,
00:29:34.480 Pearl, I think it comes down to what's palatable for voters. If I'm the guy, I mean, who's going
00:29:39.760 to be the guy to stand up and say, hey, men have it hard in this country. They'll be shouted down
00:29:43.920 so fast by every women's rights group that's out there and every other politician that's a woman
00:29:48.780 or a candidate that's a woman that's running against him like you i can't believe it because
00:29:51.920 most people they're told all day every day that it's easy to be a man well it's not we we have
00:29:57.420 the most workplace deaths by far we're the guys that typically get up in the night for something
00:30:02.280 that goes bump right it's not always the case again but it's the general norm like we're the
00:30:06.820 ones that go out and defend the village and lay our lives on the line as we should but there has
00:30:12.320 to be some kind of fair treatment with that when it comes to okay well how do we deal with these
00:30:16.640 situations where kids are involved the man i don't know if you were um watching the documentary
00:30:22.880 what's it called all quiet on set i think that was something that's come out or quiet on set
00:30:27.060 i think is what it's called uh where they're talking about the nickelodeon studios and
00:30:31.060 everything that was happening and uh drake bell when he was his characters kind of being introduced
00:30:36.000 and i don't know a whole lot about drake bell i didn't really follow any of the stories but what
00:30:39.840 I'm learning is his dad was involved and his dad spotted a predator a mile away. And his dad said,
00:30:44.580 don't let him near this particular guy. Don't let him near this guy. Don't let him near this guy.
00:30:49.620 This guy doesn't need to be around. My son can put on his clothes by himself, his shirt or his
00:30:53.340 glasses or his costume. He doesn't need to be in this room. Made sure that that guy was never around
00:30:58.100 him. Some stuff went down where the guy drove a wedge between Drake and his father. Drake ends up
00:31:03.520 going to his mom. Drake's dad said, look, don't let him be around this guy. I think his name was
00:31:09.060 brian can't remember his last name brian peck don't let this guy be around brian peck cannot
00:31:15.040 be around drake the mom basically said oh you know what brian can you take him to all these
00:31:20.360 interview these these uh you know rehearsals can you take him to all these different things that
00:31:25.040 he has to do and don't worry i'll come get him and then because she lived an hour away didn't
00:31:28.860 drive and pick him up and that's when he was molested sexually assaulted raped essentially
00:31:33.640 by Brian Peck. In the care of the mother, the father saw it a mile away. There is value to
00:31:39.440 fathers being in kids' lives, period. Even if you don't say just being the only one.
00:31:47.520 And I'm not blaming her for everything. I'm not saying women wouldn't get it. I'm just saying
00:31:51.120 that's a specific example where if the dad was in the kid's life, he probably doesn't end up in
00:31:55.220 that situation. Son, I know it's 10 o'clock at night and it's an hour drive to get you,
00:31:58.900 but you're not staying in that man's sight for one more minute than you have to. I'm on my way
00:32:03.500 as fast as the law will allow click go get him not i don't want to drive like it just it just
00:32:10.740 has we just have to understand that that is the reality there are so many positives that men do
00:32:15.840 bring to those relationships and look men out there you want more respect in this regard earn
00:32:19.960 it we have the capacity to do this well and to do it right and if you don't you don't deserve to get
00:32:25.360 it it doesn't mean that women are entitled to it either everybody's got to earn it if you're going
00:32:30.340 be a woman and be nurturing be nurturing help raise that child in a godly way in my opinion
00:32:36.660 well and the biggest the same thing i mean the biggest um what i found because i interviewed a
00:32:42.100 thousand um women on my show and i was saying earlier the biggest um red pill sort of that i
00:32:48.100 figured out is most um daddy issues are actually mommy issues because the mom is yeah deadbeat dad
00:32:54.500 it's a myth it's mostly women that will not allow the dad to see the children it's really really
00:33:01.060 common children do get used as pawns in the game yeah and that really sucks you know what i did
00:33:08.260 forget i did have one family member uh get a divorce it didn't last they got back together
00:33:12.660 that's why i think it kind of slipped my mind but during the time where they were going through that
00:33:16.980 process it was kind of a you know i'll give the kids everything they want so that they'll like me
00:33:22.820 instead of liking their other parent, right?
00:33:27.020 And you end up using the children
00:33:28.900 to try to exact some kind of revenge.
00:33:32.260 Oh, it'll really make this person mad
00:33:33.840 if I do this with the kids and they don't get to do it.
00:33:36.020 It's like, why is that even part of your thinking?
00:33:38.540 We have to grow up.
00:33:39.660 I called on Jared to like grow up
00:33:41.340 and move on with his life.
00:33:42.660 Same thing for people that are involved in a divorce.
00:33:44.800 I get it.
00:33:45.460 It sucks.
00:33:46.360 I cannot even imagine going through it myself,
00:33:48.380 but I got to tell you, we've got to grow up.
00:33:51.300 we've got to do what's in the best interest of our kids. And that means laying down our lives
00:33:55.220 if we have to and swallowing our pride if we must. Yeah. And it doesn't have to be a whole brand that
00:34:01.100 you build off of. It doesn't have to be a book. It doesn't like people can just get divorced and
00:34:06.240 move on with our lives and focus on accomplishments and doing things. But I just think more women,
00:34:13.640 we really got to start calling this stuff out because it's not acceptable and it's not okay
00:34:18.980 for the children the kids are going to grow up and see everything that's on the internet so
00:34:23.300 you know that that's why i couldn't let it go because i just kept thinking about these like
00:34:27.520 twins that it's like they have to grow up and everyone's calling them an abuser and i just
00:34:32.420 knew it wasn't true so yeah well they're beautiful they're wonderful and look you i tell you what
00:34:37.660 we'll make an agreement you keep calling out women because you're a woman you can do that
00:34:41.380 you have a little bit more of a pass through that i'll keep calling out men and that will make both
00:34:46.580 sides better along the way and maybe we can start fixing this problem a little bit but look the
00:34:50.900 solution isn't to go and run off and sleep with 50 women before you get married as some say
00:34:54.980 the solution is to be better men and better women and hold each other accountable and move forward
00:34:59.460 not you not you not at all i don't say that i don't want to put those words in your mouth
00:35:04.180 yeah i'm just saying that's not the solution but we can we can do better i think and we're starting
00:35:08.740 to head that direction fortunately and i do hope some good comes out of this and this can really
00:35:13.220 be a major issue this election you know um divorce family court reform i think men are so passionate
00:35:20.740 about this there's so many men that have been screwed either me too or some or divorce court
00:35:26.740 whatever i i think this would really motivate guys to get to the polls you know i think so too and
00:35:32.180 look they haven't had a voice they haven't had a voice in this stuff because it looks weak to come
00:35:35.860 out and complain about this but look it's happened to a lot of people a lot of people and it would
00:35:40.500 resonate if somebody's like look we've got to get to the bottom of this we've got to change these
00:35:44.180 laws so that they don't just favor a sex they favor the right person in the situation yeah it's
00:35:50.740 super important to take these on a case-by-case basis and we're not doing that yeah um is there
00:35:55.380 anything else you wanted to add about you know the whole situation that people really you know
00:36:00.180 like how has crowder been doing through all of this man you know it's been hard it really has
00:36:07.060 it's been a very difficult process to go through for him uh because he's in that position of having
00:36:13.220 this giant megaphone to set the record straight this entire time yeah and not wanting to use it
00:36:19.300 because and and they won't believe me like pearl like i'm gonna be attacked today just as much
00:36:23.780 like you know this like they're gonna attack me they're not gonna attack the facts that i've laid
00:36:26.980 out in the court documents um they're just gonna say that i'm bought and paid for by steven i was
00:36:31.540 his friend before having this job i'll be his friend after if there's an after this job i'll
00:36:35.220 be his friend afterwards yeah like it's difficult for him to sit back and let his name and reputation
00:36:42.340 be destroyed bit by bit and sometimes in very big ways when he knows the facts when he has the
00:36:48.900 evidence on his side but that's why things like this get sealed so you can't defend yourself you
00:36:56.020 can't come out and say what you absolutely know to be true but i think he's been doing the right
00:37:01.460 and the honorable thing and today when i did it on the show i was actually scheduled to host
00:37:04.980 this show previously i think last week uh sometime probably about seven days ago we decided that i
00:37:10.180 would be hosting this because stephen was going to be at mediation for the fifth time fifth day
00:37:14.980 of mediation and then this video comes out and so i get to unfortunately have to go and deliver
00:37:20.660 the news about what's going on and he he didn't even know like if he would want to at this point
00:37:26.260 but i'm like listen i as the person really responsible for the lawsuit the ceo of the
00:37:30.740 with the company. I think it's very important for me to do this and to lay out what people need to
00:37:35.500 know. And this doesn't feel good. This isn't one of those things where you walk out and start
00:37:42.680 popping champagne. This is one of those things where you walk out and you're breathing a bit of
00:37:48.140 a sigh of relief that people at least know the truth, but it hurts you in your soul that it had
00:37:52.520 to get to this point for both of them and for you to have to come out and say it. I wish none of
00:37:57.540 this had ever happened this is not what we chose but this was what was chosen for us and you better
00:38:01.920 bet we're going to fight to make sure that we have this company these people here and the mission
00:38:06.380 that we're on to make a change in this country so i i hope people will go and look at the facts
00:38:11.180 you can go to my twitter x i always get that confused now you can go to my ex at g morgan
00:38:16.840 jr and see all of the evidence we've got all the receipts and you know what you decide because it
00:38:22.540 it it's pretty bad it's pretty bad yeah the dog that was the worst part it's like not a dog
00:38:29.260 i was in his office when he got that message and he almost cried
00:38:33.800 like he's just like are you serious like it was all meant to destabilize him to bring him to his
00:38:38.940 knees to have somebody finally come and say this can all be over i mean i've got i've got all the
00:38:43.980 quotes from them i've got all the text messages from them where they lay this out in detail
00:38:49.080 and it's just heartbreaking to see that and then decry poverty when you're getting $25,000 a month
00:38:55.560 and and just you know to delete ring footage over 2,000 hours were deleted while under court order
00:39:01.100 not to do so over 8,000 hours just not turned over when you're the one that released ring footage to
00:39:05.060 try and tar and feather this man yeah like there's just been so many mind games going on all to do
00:39:11.080 this to assemble negative assets for a PR campaign designed to bring him to his knees so that at some
00:39:15.840 point somebody could walk in and say here's how you make it go away it's not right it's not how
00:39:21.200 the system should work wow that's what they're gonna do they're gonna make him oh in the divorce
00:39:26.900 and basically say he had to give in the divorce yeah yeah i can i can actually read you the quote
00:39:31.700 so this is per hillary's father to hillary another family i've got it right here in front of me the
00:39:37.280 longer the divorce proceedings go on the worse the outcome for sc stephen crowder developing
00:39:43.340 damaging okay pr assets should be pursued that deliverable is up to us and not the legal team
00:39:48.460 i wonder why at the right time mark which is the first divorce attorney uh for hillary will show
00:39:54.540 stephen crowder se the path to make it all go away so we'll damage we'll assemble these assets
00:40:01.820 we'll get these people involved that are former employees that we really didn't care about in the
00:40:05.980 first place but now that they're useful we'll get them involved into this process we'll put a
00:40:10.620 negative PR campaign together to bring him to his knees, to destroy his name, to destroy his
00:40:15.520 business, knowing that he'll be under a gag order and not able to really defend himself.
00:40:21.120 And we'll do it in a way because the public, like you said, unfortunately, will lean towards the
00:40:25.020 woman no matter what in these situations. And then when the pressure is high enough,
00:40:30.720 when the pain is strong enough, we'll let the lawyer walk in and say, this can all be over.
00:40:36.660 All you have to do is give more than you've ever made in your life. All that you have to do is
00:40:40.300 give x is all you have to do and this can all go away that's not how this is supposed to work
00:40:46.340 yeah it's supposed to be a fair and equitable split as much as that is even possible
00:40:52.500 and it's just when i saw that text i just thought oh my gosh like that takes a special kind of evil
00:40:59.140 to think that way about this that's not a strategy some people have been like oh so it's bad that
00:41:03.660 they had a legal strategy that's not a strategy that's extortion that's tortious interference
00:41:07.120 and extortion you don't understand the law you cannot go and do that and say i will go on a
00:41:12.380 negative pr campaign until they give me more how much is more i don't know but more how much that's
00:41:19.680 not legal how much more do you need than 25k a month that's crazy i mean that seems that is it's
00:41:26.160 a lot of money it's three hundred thousand dollars a year probably closer to four hundred thousand if
00:41:30.500 you figure in taxes because we all have to pay income taxes out of our checks and this is just
00:41:33.820 the total. So $25,000 a month. And I don't know if you know the laws in Texas, but in Texas,
00:41:38.700 the divorce is paid for out of the marital estate. Stephen's the only one contributing
00:41:42.460 actively to that marital estate. So you can kind of do the math yourself. The man is paying to sue
00:41:46.480 himself. It's insane. It's frustrating. And I understand why men get pissed off in these fights
00:41:52.600 because the tables are stacked against them completely. Outside of whatever's going on
00:41:57.960 in the relationship, they'd start at a disadvantage. Yeah. And traditional men are punished.
00:42:03.820 because yeah yeah like men are punished for like playing the traditional role that's better for the
00:42:09.480 children yeah i i think and this may be you know somebody can fact check me out there i'm sure they
00:42:15.320 will but if you are in a relationship and i believe it said like as crazy as these incentives
00:42:21.600 are if you strike someone in a relationship and are abusive to them it's immediately 50 50 split
00:42:27.920 done i believe in the state of texas that may differ in a lot of different places 50 50 done
00:42:33.480 it would have been better for some people to actually have been abusive who were not and i'm
00:42:38.280 not saying that they should do that i'm just saying that's how messed up the law is when
00:42:42.360 you're incentivizing that kind of behavior it doesn't make any sense at all no i mean
00:42:47.960 we've got to fix this system and again i i know i'm belaboring the point a little bit but it is
00:42:52.120 so broken and most people don't even know until it's far too late until you enter the system
00:42:56.920 and find out what it's really like yeah no i mean uh 13 so if there's a hundred marriages 13 are
00:43:05.340 malicious meaning that they alien they try to not um let the dad see the kids and they also um
00:43:12.100 uh put him on absurd amounts of child support so that's 13 out of 100 that's not an insignificant
00:43:18.940 number you know that again this this i couldn't imagine that yeah no there are men i've interviewed
00:43:24.600 um um there's men that have gotten their family to turn against them so women will again tell
00:43:32.280 the family for years that he is abusive and get them family that's how i knew what was happening
00:43:36.540 because it's the same tactics just in a different way so they'll they'll say for years you know your
00:43:42.200 brother did this your your son did this did this and so when she comes out they think they know
00:43:46.820 the story so i'm sure a lot of conservatives that were reporting on this as if it was fact
00:43:51.980 thought they were listening to facts. It's not facts. Women have a tendency to tell
00:43:57.020 parts of the story and not put all the context into it. So, you know, again, this is why I harp
00:44:03.840 on this stuff. People think I'm being dramatic. I'm anti-woman. But I'm telling you, I saw this
00:44:09.220 from a mile away. And, you know, guys have to be careful. So, you know, I'm not anti-marriage.
00:44:15.980 I've never been anti-marriage. But, you know, the system has to change. And I hope this is the
00:44:20.560 number one thing we talk about this election season so yeah i mean i i hope it's it's definitely
00:44:27.100 something that gets fixed i think that's more like a state level that's going to fix that
00:44:30.840 than anything else but it definitely needs to be a topic of conversation and it needs to happen
00:44:35.600 right now yeah well um well i hope steven's doing all right you know thank you for coming on today
00:44:41.860 i appreciate it absolutely yeah he's he's doing i think he's doing as best as we can be expected
00:44:47.840 in a difficult situation so hopefully this stuff gets wrapped up soon and time can just kind of
00:44:52.680 heal this stuff up and uh he can enjoy time with his kiddos and yeah and just kind of again move
00:44:57.440 on with his life as well yeah well um they can find the the thread on your x account you said
00:45:04.600 yeah at g morgan jr g morgan jr you can see all of the texts that we post you can see today's video
00:45:11.460 go to rumble and watch it wherever you'd like to go um just to see all the information and then
00:45:15.820 Like I said, make, you know, you come to your own conclusions based on what you see.
00:45:19.980 Yeah.
00:45:20.840 I mean, if 25K a month is abuse, like that's crazy.
00:45:24.300 Sorry.
00:45:24.700 I just, I gotta, I gotta say this again.
00:45:26.460 Well, thank you for coming on.
00:45:27.740 I appreciate it.
00:45:29.540 Absolutely, Pearl.
00:45:30.160 Thank you so much for having me.