Pearl - May 14, 2026


STREET TALK： Should Wives Obey Their Husbands？

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In this episode of Street Talks, we are outside of Watermark Community Church, asking Christian women the question, should Christian women obey their husbands? Do you think Christian women should obey Christian husbands? Why not? What does the Bible say about this and why does it matter?

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00:00:00 The word obey, I think, just has, like, in this world, has such a negative connotation.
00:00:04 I'm trying to normalize it.
00:00:06 Yeah. You think he's equal to God?
00:00:07 No, but close.
00:00:09 We would just say right here, just to protect the worship experience on a Sunday morning,
00:00:13 we would prefer you to not be there.
00:00:16 What up, guys? Welcome to another episode of Street Talks.
00:00:20 Today, we are outside of Watermark Community Church,
00:00:23 asking Christian women the question,
00:00:27 should Christian women obey their husbands?
00:00:30 There's a lot of talk around this word,
00:00:32 and we're going to count the women today 0.93
00:00:34 if they say yes, no, or yes, but.
00:00:38 Okay, yes, well, I don't know about the word obey,
00:00:43 but they definitely are the head of the household.
00:00:46 We have a structure of, what's that word?
00:00:50 Authority.
00:00:51 So it's God and then your husband and then you.
00:00:54 So he protects you.
00:00:55 But you guys are equal in terms of value as humans.
00:01:00 And you rely on each other and submit to each other as you would to Christ.
00:01:04 Do you think it's okay for women to tell their husbands what to do?
00:01:08 Husbands should definitely ask and value our opinions.
00:01:13 So you can give their opinion. 0.99
00:01:14 But ultimately they get to make the final decision.
00:01:18 And that's okay.
00:01:19 So what's your answer?
00:01:20 my answer is it all depends on the man i believe that you have to be aligned with the holy spirit
00:01:27 with god and because it's gonna it's gonna uh if a man obeys god by nature he doesn't have to
00:01:35 demand the woman to obey it comes naturally so if he aligns with everything that the lord says
00:01:40 that god says his word says by nature or women will obey the man just like the laws of of what
00:01:48 god says you know that shall not kill of course when we're aligned with the lord everything falls
00:01:53 naturally so yes i do believe as long as the man is aligned with the god with the word of god no
00:01:58 right or wrong answers no gotchas just we want to know people's thoughts on the question um should
00:02:04 christian women obey their husbands if yes why if no why not um i think it's a weirdly worded
00:02:11 question because i don't think it's obey it's like they're partners um so husband and wives are
00:02:15 partners in marriage um and so when they make a covenant with one another in the same way that
00:02:19 it's a representation of the trinity which is god the father god the son god the holy spirit and so
00:02:24 the son submitted to the father that's why he died on the cross for our sins and so he submitted to
00:02:29 him but there's not a difference in like god the father god the son god the holy spirit because
00:02:34 they're all the same they're one they're a triune god so it's a representation of jesus to god and
00:02:39 so it's a different it's it's a weirdly worded question because wives don't just obey their
00:02:44 husbands, but in the same way that Christ submitted to his father, a woman would submit to
00:02:50 her husband. However, but a godly man who is submitted, who lays his life down just like
00:02:56 Christ, then he would not be in any way overpowering, abusive, or any of those things.
00:03:01 And so they work together. And so it's a weirdly worded question. Does that make sense?
00:03:05 What's weirdly worded about it? Like what's wrong with the word obey?
00:03:08 Because obey immediate means that there's like a master and it's like, hey, you must do what
00:03:12 this person says you have to do, but that's not what the Bible teaches. Does that make sense?
00:03:17 So it doesn't teach to obey your husband in all things? No, it does not. Okay. What does it say?
00:03:22 It says to submit. And so if you understand what submit, it's almost like a yielding to. So it's
00:03:26 like a, Hey, in the same way that you would yield to traffic, it's not that you completely stop.
00:03:30 You don't ever move on, but it's emerging onto a yielding to in the same way. Like I said,
00:03:34 that Jesus submits to the father. And so it's a, it's, it's a different word than obey when you
00:03:39 look like the different definitions and stuff. So we're just asking the question, do you think
00:03:43 that Christian women should obey their husbands? If yes, why? If no, why? I think when you get 1.00
00:03:49 married that yes, you should obey your husband. I think it's called that also as Christian women
00:03:55 that is talked about in the Bible to obey their husbands and follow their lead.
00:04:01 That doesn't take anything away from them as a woman, as a wife, but yes, that they follow the
00:04:07 lead of their husband and what's what they're called to in in the bible what do you think of
00:04:12 the question though obey not obey so for me like i think it's the should i think out of
00:04:23 see i'm not very good at like having it's okay i mean there's no right or wrong because
00:04:29 because of what christ has done for me on the cross and having a husband who's also a believer
00:04:36 But it's not a, I'm obeying him because he's over me.
00:04:42 I'm obeying him because we're a team.
00:04:47 It's not that he's above me in any way.
00:04:50 Well, what's wrong with him being above you?
00:04:52 Like, why would that be a bad thing?
00:04:55 I guess it wouldn't.
00:04:56 Yeah.
00:04:57 I mean, if he's leading as Christ leads the church, then why wouldn't I want to follow him?
00:05:06 Do you think you can be obedient and still tell a guy what to do?
00:05:11 Oh, absolutely.
00:05:13 Absolutely.
00:05:14 I mean, I feel like David and I have a great relationship that if there's something that I feel like because the Holy Spirit in me,
00:05:21 if there's something I see off that I should speak up, like that's my role.
00:05:27 He often says that I'm his voice of reason, and sometimes that I will help him see something in a different way.
00:05:38 But I feel like that, as believers, that's right.
00:05:40 You want to talk about the question of the day, guys?
00:05:43 Free will. It's America. You should be able to do whatever you want.
00:05:46 So you think they should or shouldn't?
00:05:48 It's up to you. It's a free will.
00:05:51 So who decides if he's, like, following God?
00:05:54 His walk with the Lord.
00:05:58 His actions speak louder than the words.
00:06:00 And what kind of actions would you say?
00:06:02 Loving man, gentle spirit, patient, love is kind, love is patient, love is not rude, love does not demand.
00:06:11 Everything, like I said, it's all by actions.
00:06:15 So, just question, a lot of times when I hear that, it's very broad.
00:06:19 so i'd like specific okay so obviously abuse we know that's not following god but and when i say
00:06:26 abuse it's hitting her yes okay or verbal or mental it's it goes abuse is also big abroad
00:06:33 yeah but what like okay is because i think a lot of times we don't talk about female abuse which
00:06:40 is like excessive nagging telling them what to do all the time that's also the same thing yes and
00:06:45 I think just in a marriage, like you're kind of bound to do something borderline abusive at some
00:06:50 point verbally, right? I just think over time that's bound to happen. So like, how do you
00:06:56 determine, you know, when you should follow him and when you shouldn't? I think he's a man,
00:07:02 right? He's not perfect. I think that's where the woman comes into place and just, uh, our job is
00:07:07 to pray for our husbands and allow God to change his heart while he allows, while he changes our
00:07:14 heart so it's both even you know i mean i believe that we're supposed to give the same grace that
00:07:19 god's given us and i believe that if he is a man of god he will listen he'll listen to the holy
00:07:25 spirit and that's where us women i do believe that you know women have a big part you know
00:07:31 and our part is to obey god and obey our husbands however not to where the extreme of where it's
00:07:38 manipulation or you know um that's where you have to really believe it's that's where unity
00:07:44 comes in you know i think it's a beautiful thing for women to use their gifts in order to care
00:07:48 for women but the thing is is like if there are bible studies that are gossiping and stuff then 0.74
00:07:53 yes we should call that out because that is a sin isn't there a verse about women being silent in
00:07:58 the back of the church but do you know the context of that what is the context i'm asking you because
00:08:04 you're quoting it and so do you know the context or do you just like cherry pick and like i cherry
00:08:09 pick all the time okay why is that why do you cherry pick just why don't why don't you tell
00:08:12 me the context yeah but you used it so i was trying to ask you i'm just i'm cherry picking 0.99
00:08:18 okay so so when you look at the context of that it was because those women were gossiping they
00:08:24 were divisive those specific women and so there's there's stuff in scripture where it's prescriptive
00:08:28 and descriptive so it's like prescribing something to us or describing some women today are not
00:08:33 gossipy. Not all. I've never met a woman in my life that does not gossip. Okay. So you gossip
00:08:39 too? Every woman does. Okay. I think you don't, you don't, you don't gossip ever. No, I'm saying
00:08:44 like, Hey, but if I do, I go ask for forgiveness. We have a thing here that we call the kind of our
00:08:49 24 hour principle. Like if I come and say like, Hey Susie over here, she's getting on my nerves
00:08:54 or whatever. Um, like we really encourage people to say like, Hey, we want you to specifically
00:09:00 like go and talk to that person. Like if you're going to be sharing information here or you're
00:09:05 frustrated with them or you're upset with them, we encourage you to like go and have that
00:09:09 conversation with her. Um, like that's what we're going to encourage you to do because we do believe
00:09:13 gossip is something that creates, creates divine. Yeah, I totally agree. I have a hard time
00:09:18 believing there's special women at this church that are different from women everywhere or
00:09:23 churches everywhere. Um, should Christian women obey their husbands? I think the answer is yes. 1.00
00:09:28 And I think it's a mutual answer because I believe that husbands should honor their wives.
00:09:35 And I believe that women should obey their husband.
00:09:40 But at the end, we're all to obey Christ and do as the Bible has instructed us to do.
00:09:46 So I don't think it's a negative term to say obey your wife or to obey your husband or children to obey your parents.
00:09:53 I think it's biblical.
00:09:55 So, yeah, I would say no different than we are to obey God,
00:09:59 that women should honor their husbands and men should honor their wives.
00:10:06 Do you feel like that all of us fall short of the glory of God every day, though? 1.00
00:10:09 Yeah, but women worse. 1.00
00:10:11 Women worse. 1.00
00:10:11 Yeah, correct. 1.00
00:10:12 Okay.
00:10:13 Why do you believe that?
00:10:14 I have eyes.
00:10:15 Okay.
00:10:16 So do you believe that certain sins are above other sins? 0.99
00:10:20 like is that um i just would say that women when you've aborted an eighth of the world population 1.00
00:10:26 that's pretty bad so i would say like females are just sitting in public like they're dressing half 0.56
00:10:32 naked to church i don't know i'm not saying this one you guys have actually been pretty good but 0.97
00:10:37 in general like um women have a lot of power in society we have the most buying power political
00:10:44 power um and the issue you get is you kind of see what happens when women get power 0.96
00:10:51 a third of women have an std an eighth um a third of women wait sorry you can't one's a third one's
00:10:59 a quarter a quarter of women have had have an std a third of women have had an abortion we've 0.53
00:11:04 aborted an eighth of the world population we're in mountains of debt we have glut like amazon like 0.73
00:11:09 we have gluttonous spending habits and it's just not the same for men what do you see for
00:11:14 men? They don't abort an eighth of the world population. Do they support it though? Do they
00:11:21 pay for it? No, because it's mostly women that vote for it. They have to pay for it. They have 1.00
00:11:27 no choice. It comes out of taxpayer dollars a lot of the time. Like in different states?
00:11:33 I mean, here's the thing. It's like we live in a fallen, broken world where abortion exists,
00:11:41 where abuse exists where pornography exists where all these things exist like the bible tells us
00:11:45 that things like this are going to happen where we live in a fallen broken world um and so that's
00:11:50 why we as believers as christians instead of just calling out sin and being kind of sin hunters like
00:11:55 we want to offer them the grace of jesus and saying like hey like there's forgiveness of sins
00:11:59 there's grace there's mercy like and so that's why we try here really hard to say like hey if
00:12:05 that's your story like come find the true healer which is jesus and so we can point out all the
00:12:09 Well, I'm not against that. 0.82
00:12:11 You just asked, like, why I think women sin more than men.
00:12:14 I just think men are closer to God.
00:12:15 Okay.
00:12:16 So.
00:12:18 I mean, which kind of lines up with the order of the world, right? 0.56
00:12:21 God, men, women, children.
00:12:23 Have you found that, like, asking these questions, like, what does it produce?
00:12:26 Like, what does it help do?
00:12:28 Or, like, your YouTube channel or whatever?
00:12:30 Like, what's the hope in, like, asking these questions?
00:12:32 I like to make people think.
00:12:34 For me, I don't understand why obey is such a controversial word.
00:12:39 So, and I think there's a lot of discourse online and, um, I like to see is what's online,
00:12:49 does it match real life?
00:12:50 And so I like to go into real life and talk to people.
00:12:53 It's, I'm not trying to make people look bad or get a gotcha.
00:12:56 Um, I can't, I can't help how like small channels clip it.
00:13:00 Right.
00:13:00 But I post the full thing.
00:13:01 Yeah, no, totally.
00:13:02 And I don't, you're not combative or anything.
00:13:04 Like I don't see that at all or hear that at all. 1.00
00:13:06 How can a woman be obedient if she's telling him what to do? 1.00
00:13:09 I don't know if she's telling him what to do. 1.00
00:13:10 Well, in the chores example.
00:13:11 Oh, the chores example.
00:13:12 Doing what the chores.
00:13:13 Yeah, like if you're saying you need to do this.
00:13:14 I think we're getting like really complicated on a non-complicated thing.
00:13:17 Like you're saying like the 51% should go to be the highest, most disagreement ever.
00:13:23 Like I'm talking like big problems.
00:13:25 You saying like, hey, can you take out the trash?
00:13:28 Yeah.
00:13:28 And he's like, no, I'm a man.
00:13:30 Yeah.
00:13:30 I'm not saying that's a healthy, that's not a healthy dynamic to begin with.
00:13:33 Well, I use it because it's common.
00:13:35 Yes, I agree.
00:13:36 This is common.
00:13:36 Yeah.
00:13:36 You could say spending too much money. 0.99
00:13:39 You could be like, you know, some women tell their husbands to spend less money or spend it on. 0.96
00:13:44 Like the whole point is telling him what to do. 0.95
00:13:46 How can you be obedient if you're telling him what to do?
00:13:49 I think some of it's like heart posture, right?
00:13:51 Like telling him what to do versus coming together and mutually deciding something are very different things.
00:13:57 I think it is a dangerous precedent in any relationship to work from a heart posture of telling something what to do.
00:14:04 I think saying like hey I need you to take out the trash or as a family we need to steward God's
00:14:10 money better and this is how we steward it is vastly different than me telling you what to do 0.96
00:14:13 yeah but when are women good with money I think we should start doing bows for our boyfriends and 0.94
00:14:18 husbands we can bow to them that's crazy what you want to bow to your boyfriend and husband yeah I 1.00
00:14:26 like I like to give a little bow before I give him food why just to show some submission you know
00:14:32 i do not agree with that i think we bow to god we can bow to bow to him you know you think he's
00:14:40 equal to god no but close scripture tells us to not have any other gods or idols that's why i said
00:14:46 just under just under yeah just under well okay pearl right yeah yes okay well it's nice to meet
00:14:52 you nice to meet you yes glad we got to talk so last question if the pastor tells the woman one
00:14:57 thing and the husband says another, who should she listen to? Which one is biblical? Well,
00:15:03 the Bible is up to interpretation, right? I know every, I've been to a lot of churches and everyone
00:15:07 thinks that like their interpretation is correct. So I don't think we could like sit here and say
00:15:12 it's like cut and dry because there's so much argument about it. So I'm saying the pastor says
00:15:18 one thing, the husband says another, who should she listen to? They both are interpreting in a
00:15:23 different way? Well, I mean, I think scholars go back over time and they do debate the Bible. I
00:15:29 think if Jesus, if it's interpreted as the words of Jesus and it's correctly interpreted, I would
00:15:37 say whichever one is biblical. Right. But she's got to pick one. She's, they both are saying
00:15:44 they're biblical. I mean, it would come down to a case by case basis, but it would, it would go
00:15:50 back to truth in the book of God. What do you think about women telling their husbands what to 1.00
00:15:57 do? Can you still be obedient if you tell your husband what to do? I think there's a way to have 1.00
00:16:01 a conversation and talk it out and be able to express what their thoughts are in a situation,
00:16:07 so what their views are. There is an opportunity for them to have that and express their views or
00:16:13 their differences in a conversation, just like you would have a conversation with someone else.
00:16:18 What are your thoughts on the question?
00:16:20 Well, I'm not married, so I don't have a ton of thoughts.
00:16:23 But I do think Scripture is clear where it says to submit to your husband.
00:16:27 What that means isn't necessarily do what they say and only what they say,
00:16:31 because the other side of that is they're supposed to care and love for their wives.
00:16:35 And so it's as Jesus is the head of the church, so is the man of the household.
00:16:42 And yet women have come along as the helper and completer of that.
00:16:46 And so I think it's actually a beautiful working together kind of thing.
00:16:51 And so I'm not married.
00:16:53 And do you post this anywhere?
00:16:54 Yeah, on YouTube.
00:16:55 Okay.
00:16:55 As you're asking people to speak this, are you telling them that they're going to be on YouTube or anything?
00:17:01 Yeah.
00:17:02 I mean, it's pretty obvious with a mic and a camera.
00:17:04 But it's a one-party consent state.
00:17:06 So it's public property.
00:17:08 Totally.
00:17:08 Yeah.
00:17:09 My short answer would be like, I would hope that a Christian woman and man would work in concert as a team. 1.00
00:17:16 inside the confines of marriage is that an answer does that count do you think that christian women
00:17:20 should obey their husbands what do you define as obedience submit to as in like being inferior
00:17:27 sure um women are christian women are not necessarily inferior to their husbands however
00:17:35 there's a verse in the bible that says you should honor your husband and the husband should honor
00:17:39 the wife so that looks in a form of like obedience of kind of looking to them as the male of the
00:17:48 household or like the greater maybe like decision maker but also the man also has that responsibility 0.81
00:17:54 for the woman do you think it's in a woman's place to tell a man what to do no
00:18:00 that's pretty good actually i didn't think okay just context youtube channel i'm single
00:18:09 and not the right person to ask this but i feel like even being single a lot of people are very
00:18:15 like independent and like even as a woman i'm looking for a man who i guess like is strong
00:18:24 and like wants to take charge and so that's all what do you think about like women telling their
00:18:28 husbands to do the chores in the house um i mean i think they should definitely like again it goes 0.92
00:18:35 back to like honoring each other so like hopefully that like the man is willing to help out for the
00:18:42 greater good of the household but like it should also be like both hurt people last one before the 0.63
00:18:47 wind takes us do you think it's okay for women to tell their husbands what to do no not in that way 0.62
00:18:54 absolutely not i believe that there's a way i believe that you can suggest and say hey honey
00:18:59 you know what about this you know but not tell them what to do i don't believe that all right
00:19:03 guys thanks for watching the weather is gonna take us out today so we gotta go but thank you
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