Pearl - Taylor Swift Will Leave Modern Women Waiting For Travis Kelce

00:00:00.000 Taylor Swift basically just blew up that entire idea that you have to be a forever girlfriend

00:00:05.600 in order to get the ring.

00:00:06.920 That is just not true.

00:00:07.920 Because if we think about her previous relationship-

00:00:09.600 Yeah, see, this is exactly what I was saying.

00:00:12.280 Average women are going to think they can get this kind of result.

00:00:17.320 Oof.

00:00:19.160 Yeah, that's where it's going.

00:00:21.900 That's going to be the takeaway.

00:00:23.220 Oh, I got to see Brett Cooper's reaction.

00:00:28.460 Oof.

00:00:29.260 What's your thoughts?

00:00:31.600 Kit?

00:00:32.180 Kit and Dart?

00:00:33.080 Kit and Dart?

00:00:38.620 So I've been doing multitasking.

00:00:42.360 So carry on with what you're doing, and I'll try and contribute in a bit.

00:00:47.320 Okay.

00:00:48.440 I want to react.

00:00:49.680 I want to see if Brett Cooper's reaction is gynocentric.

00:00:54.380 Let me see.

00:00:55.460 What was it?

00:00:56.020 Okay.

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00:00:59.800 Street cards.

00:01:10.980 We're in the episode of the show because Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey just broke the internet

00:01:15.600 with their engagement announcement.

00:01:16.980 And I have a few reasons why you need to care, even if you're a guy, even if you are not

00:01:22.300 a Swiftie.

00:01:22.920 So for some context, some recap, just a few hours ago, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey,

00:01:27.640 they did a collab post on Instagram.

00:01:29.400 They posted photos from the proposal.

00:01:31.180 They said, your favorite English teacher and your favorite gym teacher just got engaged.

00:01:35.700 It was very sweet.

00:01:36.700 Everything's lovely.

00:01:37.300 The ring is beautiful.

00:01:37.920 We'll get into that later.

00:01:39.160 That's not part of the cultural conversation.

00:01:40.680 But if you're interested in that, I do have some details.

00:01:43.060 Anyway, they announced this and the world just exploded.

00:01:46.740 The internet came to a screeching halt.

00:01:49.380 I was seeing posts on X from people being like, oh my God, Fox News just cut away from

00:01:54.240 a cabinet meeting to say Taylor Swift is officially engaged.

00:01:57.500 This is how big it is.

00:01:58.440 I made the joke on X and I said, if there was ever a time for a politician to release

00:02:04.320 a story to the press that they don't really want to get any traction on, if they want

00:02:08.780 to like quietly release everything, Taylor Swift, that is how massive this ending up.

00:02:14.180 Kelsey is also wildly famous and popular around, you know, American men, people who

00:02:18.260 care about 25, specifically on the topic of forever boyfriends, because Travis Kelsey

00:02:23.400 and Taylor Swift just got engaged after two years of dating.

00:02:26.480 And that might seem like normal in the grand scheme of things.

00:02:29.600 But in 2025, when you go on social media and you see girls that have been with their

00:02:32.940 boyfriends for five years, seven years, 10 years, that are still waiting on an engagement

00:02:37.400 that are these like forever girlfriends, this kind of relationship can seem like an anomaly.

00:02:42.060 And Taylor Swift basically just blew up that entire idea that you have to be a forever

00:02:47.380 girlfriend in order to get the ring.

00:02:49.020 That is just not true because we think about her previous relationship.

00:02:51.700 Yeah, see, this is exactly what I was saying.

00:02:54.400 Average women are going to think they can get this kind of result.

00:02:57.680 Ooh, yeah, that's, that's where it's going.

00:03:04.040 That's going to be the takeaway.

00:03:05.600 You too.

00:03:06.680 Look at Taylor Swift.

00:03:07.980 You too can have this result.

00:03:10.480 You know, I would honestly agree with that.

00:03:12.580 Like, every time I see a girl who's like 33, 34, 35, who like, you know, whether they

00:03:18.860 were ex contestants on Love is Blind or what have you end up with like a six foot four

00:03:23.040 Chad, they always post on Instagram, never settle.

00:03:26.480 And you see in the comment section, so many women saying you manifested it or, you know,

00:03:31.980 some nonsense about how like they support like girls who hold out for more.

00:03:36.240 So I think it sort of amplifies that even with Taylor Swift doing that.

00:03:39.840 You know what I mean?

00:03:40.520 Yeah, no, I know.

00:03:41.480 And the thing is, because the women waiting for a ring like the man more than the ring.

00:03:47.580 Do you know what I'm saying?

00:03:48.460 Like, they usually like the guys more than the women that are in agenda mode and say,

00:03:52.460 I'm not going to stay unless I get the ring.

00:03:54.920 I'm not saying they should or shouldn't do that, right?

00:03:57.140 That's for every woman to decide.

00:03:59.420 But like, I mean, you can tell how much a woman likes a guy when she doesn't get what

00:04:04.700 she wants and still sticks around.

00:04:08.260 I would agree with that.

00:04:09.480 You know, I've seen girls wait five, eight, 10 years just to get a ring from a particular

00:04:13.920 guy they really liked versus a lot of women when they're after 30, they say you got one

00:04:18.280 or two years to propose or I'm out.

00:04:20.440 And that kind of tells you where they stand.

00:04:21.600 On the website, Philippe said, if seeing two loved ones counting their blessings is

00:04:27.440 not a good opportunity to rejoice, then when?

00:04:34.260 All right, let me see.

00:04:35.620 She was with that man for seven years.

00:04:37.840 And there have been rumors that Shay was like actually engaged to him, but you know, it

00:04:42.520 was really private.

00:04:43.160 But he was this like artsy, like deep actor, all of these things.

00:04:47.780 He like desperately wanted his privacy, wanted her to hide the relationship.

00:04:52.000 She was like not in the public eye for seven years straight and basically dragged her along

00:04:57.260 in that relationship.

00:04:57.920 But I'm not just saying that because I'm speculating like this is what she wrote about in one of

00:05:01.740 her previous albums.

00:05:02.480 In her song, You're Losing Me, she said like I gave all of my youth for free to you in

00:05:07.620 so long.

00:05:08.440 London, I believe that she wrote-

00:05:09.760 I don't understand.

00:05:10.680 When women say they gave you your youth, it's like you're going to get older anyways.

00:05:15.780 Like the time is going to pass either way.

00:05:19.120 Like why are you guys acting like you got nothing out of the relationships?

00:05:23.660 All right.

00:05:24.100 Okay.

00:05:24.580 Something very similar.

00:05:25.440 Those two lines, sometimes I get confused.

00:05:26.920 But she wrote about this at length saying like, I gave you all of my great years and you

00:05:30.660 took advantage of that.

00:05:31.560 Like I poured so much into this relationship.

00:05:33.840 Just wait.

00:05:34.340 Yeah.

00:05:34.480 So it's going to be back.

00:05:35.600 You deserve more, do less.

00:05:37.620 Give him less, take more.

00:05:39.260 That's going to be give him less youth, take more status and money.

00:05:44.360 And that's what I mean.

00:05:45.040 Conservatives, they want men to lose.

00:05:47.800 They always want to benefit the woman.

00:05:50.420 Now maybe you could argue that she's right, right?

00:05:55.280 I'm not telling women how to play it one way or the other.

00:05:58.060 But what I am saying here is that conservatives are always going to go to the side of the

00:06:04.720 woman.

00:06:05.280 Always, always.

00:06:06.220 Like hanging on.

00:06:07.140 It's a long London.

00:06:07.960 She writes about like clenching onto the relationship, like white knuckling it, being like, I'm not

00:06:11.960 going down to the ship.

00:06:12.900 I'm not abandoning it.

00:06:14.280 And then seven years later, getting nothing back and realizing I've just like let my life

00:06:18.080 be on hold.

00:06:18.980 And I've been waiting for this person who doesn't want to commit to me.

00:06:21.800 Anyway, that was her previous relationship.

00:06:23.620 She was the forever girlfriend.

00:06:25.160 She moves on.

00:06:26.040 She meets this incredible guy who comes to her concert, who literally has like a friendship

00:06:30.880 bracelet with his number on it.

00:06:32.120 He was publicly making these huge declarations of love, which she said in her recent podcast

00:06:37.800 episode with him and Jason, she was saying like, these are, this is the kind of love that

00:06:41.460 I've written about for 15 years.

00:06:42.720 Like I've wanted a guy.

00:06:43.900 Yeah.

00:06:49.240 Yeah.

00:06:50.120 Now average women.

00:06:51.700 This is what I mean.

00:06:52.660 Average women are going to think this is going to happen for them.

00:06:57.080 It's not.

00:06:58.940 And Pearl, you know, if you've ever watched any of those Hallmark cheesy love movies where,

00:07:07.460 you know, the, the, the woman, her, her parents' business is in trouble in some small town.

00:07:14.100 So she has to leave the big city to save her parents' coffee shop.

00:07:19.520 And then she, she runs into the, the, the handyman and they hate each other at first.

00:07:25.820 And then they all have to come together to save the coffee shop.

00:07:28.320 And then like, you know, at the end, they end up kissing and the movie always ends with

00:07:33.060 them getting good together.

00:07:34.240 Why does the movie always end right there?

00:07:36.680 It's because that's the easy part.

00:07:41.180 Taylor's going to be writing about all this romance, but wait till she gets married.

00:07:45.120 You know what I'm saying?

00:07:46.380 Women see marriage as the end goal.

00:07:49.560 You know what I mean?

00:07:50.000 But it's, it's not like they see marriage as the end, but that's the beginning.

00:07:55.340 Like the life together, the getting old, the not being a forever.

00:08:00.100 That's like the hard part.

00:08:02.120 You know, one thing Brett Cooper just said was just kind of interesting.

00:08:06.900 And it's kind of something I think we all know for a while, but we don't really talk about

00:08:10.260 is that women see them investing their time with a guy, especially their youth as a more

00:08:16.640 worthwhile investment in a relationship than a guy's time.

00:08:20.140 Like no guy ever says to a woman, I can't believe I invested my youth with you.

00:08:25.680 Right.

00:08:25.920 But they regret spending a lot of money on a girl who ended up, you know, leaving or what

00:08:30.060 have you, because they feel like, you know, they wasted a lot of money, but girls view

00:08:34.040 their time as their most value, like their youth and beauty as their most valuable asset.

00:08:39.120 And to your point, most girls aren't going to give their youth and beauty to your regular

00:08:42.080 guy.

00:08:42.820 They'll give their, you know, thirties and beyond, you know, if that guy serves a purpose

00:08:46.900 money wise, but that's pretty much it.

00:08:48.560 So it kind of tells you sort of this traditional conservative mindset, which is don't invest

00:08:54.100 your youth and beauty with like a guy who's not worth your time, but his time is basically

00:08:58.660 not valued.

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00:10:15.460 I like show up with a boom box and be like, I love you.

00:10:18.760 I want to be with you.

00:10:19.840 And that's basically what Travis did.

00:10:21.640 And they've had this like amazing love affair over the last two years.

00:10:24.520 And now they're engaged, you know, in a fraction of the time that she was in that relationship

00:10:29.100 with Jo Allen.

00:10:29.820 So that's one part of it.

00:10:30.920 So you do not need to be a forever girlfriend if you are in a relationship like that.

00:10:34.920 I'm sure that the guys are like, oh my God, I need to go buy a ring.

00:10:37.440 Girls are rethinking everything.

00:10:38.720 Which brings me to the next point of why this engagement is so relevant and important right

00:10:44.040 now.

00:10:44.700 And it's because I don't know if there are any hard studies on this.

00:10:48.680 I don't think that there are.

00:10:49.620 But celebrity relationships and celebrity marriages play a huge role in the cultural

00:10:55.640 tone of an era.

00:10:57.180 Okay.

00:10:58.080 Let me just.

00:11:00.660 All right.

00:11:01.520 Birth rate.

00:11:02.640 Look, not, not really, Brett.

00:11:04.980 The birth rate's still going to go down.

00:11:07.620 I don't predict this is really going to affect anything.

00:11:11.460 If anything, it will make it worse because women will expect Travis Kelsey to bail them out

00:11:18.040 at 35 and unfortunately for women, nobody's coming.

00:11:23.460 So you too, Brett, are a mid who won and we're very happy for you.

00:11:29.460 But you have to understand that you're in a different class than most women.

00:11:33.880 You're in the media, like conservative influencer sphere.

00:11:37.260 The average woman in conservative media marries men worth $2 million.

00:11:40.780 $2 million.

00:11:43.780 That's not average.

00:11:44.660 That's not normal America.

00:11:47.420 Okay.

00:11:47.880 Let me continue.

00:11:48.760 Like think about David Beckham and Victoria Beckham and their wedding.

00:11:52.260 Think about, you know, Princess Kate and Prince William and their wedding.

00:11:56.220 That was huge.

00:11:57.040 The royal wedding was talked about for years.

00:11:58.420 Just, you know, a couple of years ago, we had Sophia Ritchie's wedding, which basically

00:12:03.020 made so many women, you know, decide that they wanted to get married.

00:12:06.300 Okay.

00:12:06.900 Let's look at average age.

00:12:09.560 Okay.

00:12:09.720 When did Sophia Ritchie get married?

00:12:11.760 We're going to look at this.

00:12:13.180 Sophia Ritchie got married when?

00:12:19.580 So she got married in 2023.

00:12:23.000 Okay.

00:12:23.400 So it's been two years since then.

00:12:25.680 Has the average age of first marriage for women gone up or down?

00:12:31.700 It's in fact gone up, not down.

00:12:37.180 So yeah, it didn't really do anything.

00:12:41.120 I just, you know, I don't, I really hate being the bearer of bad news, but I just really like

00:12:46.760 to stay accurate on this channel.

00:12:49.300 I just, and I think it kind of doesn't, I think it doesn't win me any points because it's

00:12:55.640 way easier to sell hope.

00:12:57.380 But guys, I mean, look at it, the, all this is going to do is change the menu.

00:13:05.680 You used to get a 28 year old bride.

00:13:07.500 Now it's going to be 35.

00:13:09.740 Welcome to the future.

00:13:13.260 But I mean,

00:13:14.000 Yeah, I was going to say, I think most women would rather be single and get to just do what

00:13:21.180 they want to do in life than be with a regular guy and have to compromise in life.

00:13:25.860 Like to them, they see that more as a downside.

00:13:28.120 And that's why specifically in their twenties, when they have their most sexual capital, they

00:13:32.240 don't want to invest that with a regular guy.

00:13:34.400 Like if they find a, you know, a very tall, good looking, successful guy, then they'll

00:13:38.140 settle down with that guy.

00:13:39.380 But for a regular guy, no, they're not going to do that.

00:13:41.600 Like they see that as an opportunity cost to them.

00:13:44.680 So like, I don't see that changing as long as, you know, women have the ability to do what

00:13:49.040 they want to do in life.

00:13:50.760 I'm just going to say it.

00:13:52.640 This is kind of off topic.

00:13:55.240 I'm sorry.

00:13:55.600 Go ahead.

00:13:55.860 I'm sorry.

00:13:56.040 Go ahead.

00:13:56.280 Just, just one thing really quick.

00:13:57.740 And then all the women will say, get married like women to average men.

00:14:02.280 Right.

00:14:02.800 But it's all the women that got married and compromised nothing.

00:14:06.480 Do you know what I mean?

00:14:07.680 It'll be like, I got pregnant.

00:14:09.240 Let me take the Fox news job.

00:14:11.320 You know what I like?

00:14:12.160 Or like, yeah, I'm having this kid.

00:14:14.660 Let me run for office.

00:14:16.300 And I'm like, you didn't sacrifice anything, which is fine.

00:14:20.680 I'm not saying to you, but it's, it's a little bit like, it's kind of like Queens and Kings

00:14:26.140 saying, you know, do this thing.

00:14:29.060 But it's like, you're, you're living like royalty.

00:14:31.080 Doug MPA, go ahead.

00:14:32.840 This is kind of off topic, but Sophia Ritchie is Lionel Ritchie's biological daughter.

00:14:39.120 And Lionel Ritchie is one of the ugliest men on the planet.

00:14:41.680 Like, like his head, his face is the size of a U.S. Capitol, like, like a fricking Denver,

00:14:49.420 Colorado.

00:14:50.280 And that's his daughter.

00:14:52.360 Is that attractive?

00:14:53.780 Who knew that was going to happen?

00:14:55.840 I'm sorry.

00:14:56.220 Sophia Ritchie, what would you rate her ass?

00:15:00.020 Eight off the top of my head.

00:15:02.180 Like, have you seen Lionel Ritchie, his face?

00:15:05.180 Ritchie, I'll do, and dad, I'll share my screen.

00:15:11.500 Like, look at Lionel Ritchie's face.

00:15:14.940 Yeah.

00:15:15.440 Look at that.

00:15:17.140 Because most daughters have, daughters have their father's face on their mother's head

00:15:23.160 and sons have their mother's face on their, on their father's head.

00:15:27.240 And, like, look at, oh my God, I can't believe it.

00:15:32.000 Yeah, she's, uh, she kind of looks like neither.

00:15:40.000 Yeah, but you have to look at her before plastic surgery, right?

00:15:42.880 She didn't look as good as she does now, right?

00:15:46.420 Uh, let's see.

00:15:49.140 Before plastic, okay, let's see.

00:15:52.000 It just pops right up.

00:15:53.140 I don't think she looks that different, just the nose.

00:16:02.300 Yeah, it's a little less, but.

00:16:04.780 Lionel Ritchie is a weird-looking dude, man.

00:16:07.060 I mean, his music is good, but bro, like, what?

00:16:10.400 Oh, there you go, on the left.

00:16:13.220 Yeah, the nose job did help her a lot.

00:16:16.120 But she has, I think on the white girl, because she's mixed,

00:16:18.860 the black lips look pretty good on her.

00:16:21.040 Gives her a lot of points, because most white women have pretty thin lips.

00:16:26.220 Um, let me share this for a little bit.

00:16:28.620 Dressing, like, clothes and be classy.

00:16:30.520 She, like, ushered in this, like, quiet luxury.

00:16:33.120 Brett, like, are you looking outside?

00:16:36.440 Nobody's dressing more modestly.

00:16:39.040 Like, nobody.

00:16:42.900 Modest type of fashion.

00:16:44.120 Like, these relationships, these weddings, these marriages,

00:16:47.080 they have the power to change culture.

00:16:49.180 No, they don't.

00:16:49.480 And if you think that.

00:16:50.280 I don't, I just hate, I hate having to keep you the bearer of bad news,

00:16:54.440 but they don't.

00:16:56.360 No.

00:16:58.740 It doesn't.

00:16:59.780 It doesn't change.

00:17:00.720 It does not change.

00:17:02.080 If you're going to say this stuff changes things,

00:17:05.120 then what I need you to do is prove that it changes something.

00:17:09.180 But if you look at the trends, they're the same.

00:17:12.500 They are the same.

00:17:13.980 Taylor Swift, getting married, being engaged,

00:17:17.020 being in a long-term relationship is not going to do that.

00:17:19.540 I don't know what to tell you.

00:17:20.700 Like, this is the end all, be all for women around the world right now.

00:17:24.440 I was about to say women in America,

00:17:25.520 but really around the world right now.

00:17:27.720 And you might think that this is kind of ridiculous,

00:17:29.720 but she is signaling that marriage is something to strive for,

00:17:34.320 that love is worth seeing.

00:17:35.460 Yeah.

00:17:35.800 So, again, no.

00:17:36.860 No, no, no.

00:17:37.300 She's signaling.

00:17:38.040 You can stick the landing at 35.

00:17:41.700 That's the signal.

00:17:42.980 You can wait until 35, have 22 ex-boyfriends.

00:17:47.120 And, like, it's like conservatives will say from one end of their mouth,

00:17:50.840 don't sleep around and don't be a whore.

00:17:53.140 But then when a whore gets married, they clap.

00:17:57.100 You know?

00:17:57.780 Granted, in this economy, I mean, Taylor Swift's, like,

00:18:01.740 a mid-tier whore, I'd say.

00:18:03.260 You know what I mean?

00:18:06.820 Like, there's, like, there's, like, entertainment.

00:18:09.600 I wouldn't really put her at the top.

00:18:11.600 Like, I'd put, like, Cardi B.

00:18:13.940 That's, like, a high-tier whore.

00:18:18.900 She's, like, she's, like, a mid-tier whore.

00:18:22.860 Like, I wouldn't.

00:18:23.940 In entertainment, she might be a prude.

00:18:26.120 Yeah, I was about to say that.

00:18:28.780 Do you think that her music is going to change once she gets married?

00:18:32.200 And also, do you think that because Taylor Swift is getting married,

00:18:35.600 that more women are going to do a thing where they want to get married,

00:18:39.040 but then end up divorced?

00:18:40.620 Are we going to see more quick marriages where they find a guy to marry

00:18:44.360 just to get the marriage because of Taylor Swift

00:18:46.800 and then divorce, like, a year or two later?

00:18:48.760 I think all the millennial girls that are, like, 35-plus

00:18:52.440 that are still holding out just got, like, another glimpse of hope

00:18:55.600 just to wait a little bit longer.

00:18:59.280 You'll find your Travis Kelsey.

00:19:01.160 Actually, I should tweet that.

00:19:02.300 Ladies, don't worry.

00:19:03.260 Your Travis Kelsey is coming.

00:19:07.180 I should do, like, a pandering of the day segment

00:19:10.240 where I just pander.

00:19:12.580 Yeah.

00:19:13.220 Never settle.

00:19:14.680 Yeah.

00:19:15.460 Ladies, never settle.

00:19:17.080 Yeah, between, like, between 10 a.m. and 11 a.m.

00:19:21.080 every single day, you should spend that hour

00:19:22.760 with four or five pandering tweets every day.

00:19:28.300 Speaking out that you should wait for an amazing guy,

00:19:30.860 that you should, you know, follow that institution, you know,

00:19:34.880 and seek that commitment, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.

00:19:37.540 And so I'll be interested to see what comes from this.

00:19:40.240 I doubt that they're going to do some huge elaborate wedding.

00:19:42.440 I feel like it'll be more of an elopement.

00:19:43.740 I don't think she would, you know,

00:19:45.060 I feel like she would blow up the wedding industrial complex

00:19:47.700 if she tried to do some big kind of wedding.

00:19:50.160 But I think that this marriage really is going to change things.

00:19:52.600 And I think that it is objectively positive.

00:19:54.280 Like, regardless of how you feel about Taylor Swift,

00:19:56.980 like, I would not consider myself a diehard Swifty.

00:19:59.520 I was not, like, a Swifty for years and years and years.

00:20:01.840 But I do love her music.

00:20:02.980 And I think that she's a really interesting person

00:20:04.560 and a really interesting case study.

00:20:05.920 And she's really important when it comes to our culture.

00:20:08.060 But I do think that this is objectively positive.

00:20:10.860 What I was trying to say is that even if you are not a diehard fan,

00:20:14.120 you should see this as something that is good.

00:20:16.180 I know that conservatives like to rag on her.

00:20:18.420 Trump was posting, you know, a couple months ago being like,

00:20:20.780 I ended her.

00:20:21.540 She's a real...

00:20:22.000 Okay, but see, again, it's women will always defend whoring.

00:20:26.940 Always.

00:20:28.620 And look it, I'm not...

00:20:29.860 You know, look, I'm not here to tell a grown woman

00:20:34.780 she can do what she wants.

00:20:36.000 She's an adult if they're consenting, whatever.

00:20:38.580 But my point is, conservative women,

00:20:40.500 they say they're, like, they're for traditional values.

00:20:43.660 But you have to understand, right now,

00:20:45.140 they're supporting IVF children.

00:20:47.500 I mean, these kids are most likely going to be an IVF kids.

00:20:51.300 Which is what it is, right?

00:20:53.620 Whatever.

00:20:54.100 But that's always...

00:20:57.460 They always default to defending whoring.

00:20:59.880 No, she's not.

00:21:01.260 Like, lover or hater,

00:21:03.300 she is incredibly, incredibly influential.

00:21:05.300 She's incredibly popular.

00:21:06.480 And we should be rooting for her

00:21:07.800 to set a good example for women and men around the world.

00:21:12.980 And I think that she is doing that

00:21:14.160 with this engagement, with this marriage.

00:21:15.780 So anyway, I wish her all the best.

00:21:17.420 This was a very exciting thing to spend my day reading about.

00:21:21.560 And then for any of the chicks out there

00:21:23.020 who were interested in her ring,

00:21:24.040 because I was 100% interested in it.

00:21:26.840 It's stunning.

00:21:27.680 It's, like, very intricate.

00:21:28.540 It looked antique.

00:21:29.560 So I texted our jeweler that made my engagement ring with Alex,

00:21:33.260 who's become a really good friend of ours.

00:21:34.620 That feels, like, so bougie to say,

00:21:36.280 but he just has become a good friend.

00:21:37.820 And I was like, I need information about this.

00:21:40.260 So according to Orin, that's his name,

00:21:42.520 according to Orin,

00:21:43.240 it is an elongated old mind cut ring.

00:21:46.480 And most likely antique or antique inspired.

00:21:49.360 And he said that it's really rare to have a mind cut that is that big.

00:21:52.400 So just saying, good job, Travis.

00:21:54.940 Allegedly, it was, like, $550,000,

00:21:57.180 which is, like, literally insane.

00:22:00.860 But also, she's a billionaire.

00:22:01.920 Yeah, I'm not really shocked they're bringing up the ring.

Pearl - August 28, 2025

Taylor Swift Will Leave Modern Women Waiting For Travis Kelce

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