Pearl - January 11, 2026


The Best and Worst of Tradcons In 2025


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Length

43 minutes

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Word Count

7,508

Sentence Count

364

Misogynist Sentences

44

Hate Speech Sentences

41


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Nick Blevins has a new book out and it's called "Porn and the Devil's Playbook" and I'm here to talk about it and why it's such a bad book. I also talk about why porn is bad for men and why we should all be worried about it.

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00:00:00.000 where they don't think that men are owed affection or sex. I'm not an expert on this stuff. Um, I
00:00:06.380 have found that you can talk to people that have studied the Bible for like 15, 20 years
00:00:12.340 and they all have completely different conclusions. So how the hell am I going to know?
00:00:18.740 I don't know. I don't have an answer. Available is porn. What is it? I know what porn is, but like
00:00:25.480 you said it's a huge factor in the lives of young men and a bad factor why well this is another
00:00:32.620 thing where it's it's reality distortion that that's kind of the theme just like psychedelics
00:00:40.380 distort reality just like a kind of internet society is uh a form of delusion so is porn
00:00:47.000 in the sense that okay so he's talking like in the abstract right he's saying oh society's being
00:00:53.640 hurt by corn but we they never go into specifics about their real life and it's like okay well have
00:01:00.220 you watched it come on come on like we know these gripers are watching come on so then you go into
00:01:07.540 it and you say well did it destroy your life and that's going to be more helpful than talking in
00:01:13.960 the abstract like what did it do for you you know like a guy that's deployed for six months
00:01:21.080 in the military. Really? It's that bad for him? I mean, his choices are sleep with the
00:01:27.940 few hoes on the deck or watch Korn so he doesn't cheat on his wife, you know?
00:01:34.540 You know, a lot of people maybe don't realize, and we talked about this a little bit,
00:01:39.100 people are getting turned on to porn when they're like 10 years old.
00:01:43.580 And when you are going through puberty, when you're developing your sexual faculties,
00:01:49.460 how could you stay hey it's me all right it's saying they're gonna flag this interview well
00:01:56.460 all right if they nuke it i'll just go live again i'm only covering i'm not covering the jay stuff
00:02:03.380 though because i actually think i think the groipers give the jays too much credit and they
00:02:09.620 need to give women more credit to be honest that's my opinion on it you know do women have agency or
00:02:16.780 not every kid has a phone every kid has an ipad and every ipad and phone is if you you know if
00:02:24.380 you know what it is loaded up with porn and it's infinite and it's ubiquitous and it's you can get
00:02:30.760 every kind of it you want whenever you want it's in your pocket and so something that is almost
00:02:36.460 never talked about is that this is a generation that's totally sexually dysfunctional i think
00:02:42.120 because of pornography and some people are able to know the reason this generation is sexually
00:02:48.320 dysfunctional women don't need sex as much because of social media again it's so crazy that this is
00:02:54.760 like i would argue that nick is one of the most red pill people on the right when it comes to
00:03:00.720 women and still he's blaming corn but he's not blaming social media it's right in front of their
00:03:08.760 faces women don't have as much of a need for sex because we get attention from high level men on
00:03:14.360 social media at work we don't even have to leave our house to get that attention that we need
00:03:19.480 right attention is a need for women sex is a need for men um so social social media for women is 10
00:03:26.760 times worse than corn is for men so now when you have women you know watching the chads on their
00:03:33.640 phone watching the chads on tv thinking we deserve all that what happened what what is the next step
00:03:40.440 well we start banging 20 percent of men we're like we want the chads on the tv and what's different
00:03:45.720 in 2025 is we can actually get the chads on the tv you you can actually bang your celebrity crush
00:03:51.560 that's an attainable thing for women nowadays that has not always been attainable in the past
00:03:57.400 so what happens next now there's a chunk of men that are not selected
00:04:01.240 the men that are not selected what are they supposed to do and because conservatives do
00:04:09.060 not treat sex as a need for men they they don't treat it as a need none of them um they we can't
00:04:15.560 have a realistic conversation about what are we going to do with the men that are not getting
00:04:22.620 selected from by women for sex a realistic conversation are we going to get are we going
00:04:28.800 to have forced marriages again? No, that's not realistic. What in the next 90 days can we do
00:04:35.100 to figure out what are those men supposed to do? That's why the red pill is the only place that
00:04:41.540 has real answers. Because what the red pill has is it has guys that tried, okay, I did online
00:04:48.160 dating. That solved my sexual problem. I got laid. I tried this. I tried that. I tried that.
00:04:53.440 None of these other movements have that. None of them. Not Nick's movement, not the Daily Wire. None of them. None of them are actually solving the problem. The red pill guys are the only ones solving the problem.
00:05:07.060 so yeah and and their their answers are so stupid like and i hate to talk this this i hate to be
00:05:15.280 this mean about it but in all honesty you're an idiot if you think that men aren't going to watch
00:05:20.620 corn or get laid give them a wife they go to the church there's no wives okay what now be a monk
00:05:26.620 yeah okay and then you ask them well were you celibate were you a monk did you watch corn and
00:05:33.400 they're like, well, no. And then it's just this cycle of no answers. Are we going to force the
00:05:40.080 women to get married? Are we going to force them to sleep with men they're not attracted to?
00:05:44.300 They're like, no. Well, can the men at least get laid so they can be attractive to women? Can they
00:05:50.340 start like, you know, banging some women to, you know, and then they're like, well, they can't do
00:05:57.000 that either. And, and it's just so unpragmatic. Like if the content creators aren't giving you
00:06:06.200 like a step-by-step plan of like what you're supposed to do, they don't have an answer.
00:06:13.960 Um, and I'm not pretending I have an answer when it comes to men getting laid,
00:06:17.400 but I hate that they demonize the guys. They demonize the guys that give you an answer
00:06:22.960 because all the other content creators do is just nag they nag nag nag on men's sexuality
00:06:30.280 with it some people don't have a problem but i think a lot of people did you see that nick called
00:06:37.140 you the goat on of rage bait on this i did see that look i'm a fan of nick i just think
00:06:42.100 i think that he misses the mark on this topic um i think he's way better than most conservatives
00:06:48.840 but um still when i'm listening to him talk about this topic it's still gynocentric
00:06:56.420 here well and maybe even a small minority have a serious problem with that
00:07:01.720 and the problem people sexually dysfunctional i think that it's impossible for a real woman
00:07:10.040 to compete with the availability and the novelty of pornography and i disagree i don't think it's
00:07:18.360 the same i think most men that are watching corn they would take a real woman and the other thing
00:07:24.600 they're not talking about is the biggest group of incels is actually married men the number one
00:07:29.400 only fans consumers are married white christian men and there's always a hope coming back from
00:07:35.720 this they say well that sample size of that study just wasn't good enough it's just people that hate
00:07:40.680 christians i'm like no no because the christian women are naturally going to be the most controlling
00:07:47.400 because they controlled the relationship from the jump, because the sex happened on her terms,
00:07:52.560 not his. Yeah, we'd prefer a real woman, but that's not pragmatic. A lot of men, they don't
00:08:00.140 have time to court these women or to learn, you know, seduction skills. These are skills.
00:08:06.400 Corn will wreck your marriage bed. Well, what started, right? What started the wrecking of
00:08:11.540 the marriage bed? Was it the man watching corn or the woman getting fat or not sleeping with
00:08:15.420 her husband let's be real here every girl i know that got married first year 20 pounds on average
00:08:22.660 women gained 20 pounds in the first five years of marriage a real woman uh you know like without
00:08:28.660 getting graphic is she's only one person and from a young age i told myself i wouldn't be caught dead
00:08:36.960 in a toxic or abusive relationship?
00:08:41.120 One guy in the chat says,
00:08:43.600 my laptop, David says,
00:08:47.060 my laptop doesn't accuse me of sexual assault
00:08:49.540 because I cheated on her.
00:08:51.720 I know, these ads.
00:08:55.920 Here.
00:08:57.120 You know, maybe she wants to do something sexual,
00:09:00.420 maybe she doesn't.
00:09:02.380 Porn is, you could have a hundred different women
00:09:06.020 in one sitting.
00:09:06.960 doing anything that whatever whatever niche or idiosyncratic thing a person might be into
00:09:14.360 it's there and so i think that novelty combined with that availability it makes it so that
00:09:21.020 you know when you think about courting a woman juice isn't worth the squeeze and so there's
00:09:28.280 like also a problem of like erectile dysfunction people that can't enjoy regular sex because it
00:09:33.520 It does not compare to the intent.
00:09:36.320 You know, there's a group of older men that had erectile dysfunction.
00:09:41.400 And, you know, so they created Viagra and they found that when they got young, hot, attractive women, that dysfunction went away.
00:09:49.920 How many men would be dysfunctional if there was a 20-year-old baddie with big tits in front of them?
00:09:58.480 How many?
00:09:59.240 density, the novelty, and the availability of porn. It's hyper-stimulation. And so I think
00:10:07.220 that's sabotaging a lot of normal sexual relationships. It seems like it's making a
00:10:11.240 lot of people gay, too. Yeah. And trans. You think that's true? 100%.
00:10:15.720 What is that? I think that... I think that's kind of a dumb take. I understand. What they'll do
00:10:22.000 is they'll say, well, what about this study? Here's some study. There's evidence that suggests
00:10:28.760 that like blah blah blah the person's trans whatever but you know i've actually met trans
00:10:34.680 people i think they're always just off just my opinion can't force women to sleep with certain
00:10:43.880 men when the decline is continuing it will happen you will think women will fare well in a civil war
00:10:49.160 or when the population crashes 75 40 years from now look i'm not saying it won't come
00:10:55.480 eventually but you cannot make decisions on your life today thinking that it will come in your
00:11:01.960 lifetime odds are it's probably not going to come in your lifetime and if you expect it to come in
00:11:08.200 your lifetime you're going to be waiting the rest of your life i mean i had an economist on here
00:11:13.640 he said that things might go back to tradition when i'm like 60. okay now that i'm almost dead
00:11:18.760 Like, do you know what I mean? Like, there's people that were predicting this decline 50 years ago. I interviewed them. Now they're in their 70s and their 80s. Now they're almost dead.
00:11:30.080 The novelty is a huge part of that. I think that if you are somebody that uses pornography multiple times per day, which many people do.
00:11:37.760 Actually?
00:11:38.420 Oh, absolutely.
00:11:40.160 That's a lot of jerking off.
00:11:41.540 It's a huge problem.
00:11:43.080 Yeah.
00:11:43.340 And, you know, if you're doing that multiple times a day, every day, for years, since you're a kid, well, eventually you get bored and you want to move on to something more extreme.
00:11:55.860 And you're kind of, it operates, I think, similar to like a drug.
00:11:59.800 You kind of have the same kind of resistance to it that you would to a drug or a tolerance for it.
00:12:06.560 And you're always.
00:12:06.960 Okay, but solutions.
00:12:08.520 What are the men that are not sexually selected supposed to do?
00:12:12.340 is chasing that initial feeling the first time you used it or the first time you saw a certain
00:12:18.340 thing. And I think eventually you just chase more taboo, more transgressive. And I think maybe some
00:12:24.000 people are more prone to that than other people going in a really extreme direction.
00:12:28.280 How Charlie Sheen got AIDS, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Through just being jaded and looking for
00:12:33.700 something more transgressive. That's just a fact. And imagine being able to build anything
00:12:39.740 just by thinking about it meet base 44 something too about what it does when you look at it
00:12:47.440 when you because people don't realize that it is a fundamentally different experience
00:12:51.900 being involved in intercourse versus watching other people have intercourse and i think that
00:13:00.240 actually does something to you tell me what do you mean i think that you know for example uh i
00:13:05.880 If you go to the, okay, again, this is the abstract.
00:13:10.080 Nick, have you watched Korn?
00:13:11.680 Did you want to be a tranny?
00:13:12.880 No.
00:13:13.960 Do you know what I mean?
00:13:14.760 It's like, come on.
00:13:16.980 Saylor has written about this,
00:13:18.460 that there's multiple kinds of transsexuals.
00:13:21.020 And he says that one kind of transsexual
00:13:23.040 is somebody that likes the idea
00:13:24.760 of seeing themselves as a woman.
00:13:26.320 It's autogynephilia.
00:13:27.380 Yes.
00:13:28.220 And I think that, you know,
00:13:29.300 one of the theories for that is you watch
00:13:31.540 a man having sex with a woman that isn't you so much,
00:13:34.920 you kind of achieve an identity with the woman
00:13:37.620 in like a weird, sick way.
00:13:39.740 You almost identify with the woman.
00:13:41.460 I just think that's kind of dumb.
00:13:43.160 Okay, let me continue here.
00:13:44.680 Separate category.
00:13:46.220 It's a new, it's an innovation
00:13:47.880 in the realm of pornography
00:13:50.020 because you have what everyone considers
00:13:53.300 what everyone is porn,
00:13:54.900 which is like videos of porn stars,
00:13:57.340 like dedicated career sex workers having sex
00:14:01.120 in a relatively controlled environment
00:14:03.920 or something like that.
00:14:04.920 But then you get OnlyFans, which is like Patreon for nudes or sex, and basically there's now a very large subculture, much larger than people want to admit, of women who the moment they turn 18, that is what they do is they make an OnlyFans account and they become an amateur porn star.
00:14:24.460 And it is completely casual, you know, because you could say that maybe 10 years ago, even at the heyday of internet porn, to be in porn, you got to be a porn star.
00:14:36.480 Like that's your life and that's your career and that's who you are.
00:14:38.940 And it's very shameful.
00:14:40.200 With OnlyFans, it's like, it's like having a TikTok.
00:14:44.000 It's like, here's my link tree.
00:14:47.100 Here's my Instagram account.
00:14:48.640 Here's my Facebook account.
00:14:49.600 Here's my YouTube.
00:14:50.280 And here's my OnlyFans.
00:14:52.620 Why would any of this be legal?
00:14:54.460 I think that, um, well, there's like, you're going to notice they're subtly going to put
00:15:01.460 the blame onto men as all. It's just so tiring. It's so tiring. Okay. Here you indicated maybe
00:15:09.040 there's an intelligence benefit to that. Yeah. Maybe there's a political benefit to that. I
00:15:15.040 think that why wouldn't you arrest the people who run something like it's never arrest the women.
00:15:19.920 it's always arrest the men. And again, these women are providing a service. They have actually
00:15:26.620 saved more marriages than a lot of Christian women, because a lot of Christian women are not
00:15:31.720 having sex with their husbands. They don't think that men are owed affection or sex.
00:15:38.540 That is the mindset of most conservatives. It should be if you had a Christian government.
00:15:44.280 Or how about just a government that cares about its people? I mean,
00:15:46.340 is iran a bigger threat or is only fans iran's not turning my daughters to prostitution
00:15:51.200 that i'm aware of right right i mean that seems like one of the again it's only fans fault
00:15:56.580 it's iran's fault it's it's never the women are like okay if tomorrow i started an only fans i'm
00:16:06.480 not doing that right but let's just say you know i was offered a million dollars to do a sex tape
00:16:11.280 once. A million dollars I was offered. Would I be tricked into taking it? Would I be brainwashed?
00:16:21.380 No. Whose fault would it be? Mine. But it's so hard for even the most right-leaning people
00:16:28.820 to put any accountability onto women. And it just drives me insane.
00:16:33.060 The worst things that could happen to any society.
00:16:36.100 Oh, absolutely.
00:16:36.720 so how big is the support for that like if a candidate were to come out and say we ought to
00:16:41.880 arrest the guys who own mind geek which is the biggest i think it's the biggest porn supplier
00:16:46.220 in the world or the guys who run only the guys not the women it's the men the women are like oh
00:16:52.460 i can't wait to take my clothes off i turned 18 thank god i can just be naked and be a whore
00:16:56.860 and the men are like f it if you're going to be whores anyway we might as well make some money
00:17:00.780 and then the men are like oh it's the men's fault
00:17:06.720 I'd love to see a candidate try to ban corn.
00:17:11.200 Yeah, women would riot first.
00:17:13.920 What would the reaction be among?
00:17:18.080 If you conceal carry, then you know seconds count
00:17:20.200 when it comes to carrying your gun with you.
00:17:21.900 And that's why I want to give people under 50.
00:17:25.360 I think there would be broad support for that.
00:17:27.660 Really?
00:17:28.020 I do, actually, yes.
00:17:29.300 I hope someone will say that.
00:17:30.760 Someone needs to.
00:17:31.440 I hope someone arrests them, like, right away.
00:17:32.980 I think Pearl goes way too hard against women.
00:17:36.500 Like, can you leave?
00:17:37.640 Can you go nag somebody else?
00:17:39.560 Can you go nag somebody else?
00:17:43.360 Moonjung82?
00:17:44.960 Why are you here?
00:17:46.000 This is not a place for simps.
00:17:48.140 That was actually one of them.
00:17:49.140 Seizes their assets and puts them in prison.
00:17:51.080 Seizes their bodies and puts them in jail.
00:17:54.660 Yeah, I mean.
00:17:55.260 The owners of that, people who are, I mean, talk about human trafficking.
00:17:57.900 Yeah, oh, yeah.
00:17:58.520 I thought we were against human trafficking.
00:18:00.200 Yeah.
00:18:00.880 But you think that young people, because you always think of young people as so liberal,
00:18:04.640 but like, no.
00:18:06.000 they wouldn't think that was crazy? No, I think especially among young men,
00:18:09.680 they know it's a problem. It's ruining their lives. And they know it.
00:18:15.000 Most people are going to be single parents. If most people are getting divorced and not
00:18:19.500 staying together, what do you think your future is probably going to be?
00:18:23.280 I mean, by a picture of myself, Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles, we aren't old enough to know
00:18:27.320 better and don't know the reality of what we're pushing. Yet a woman who is younger than us and
00:18:31.700 single does know better and does understand this reality. Another post, she goes on to say that
00:18:37.040 marriage is again, then he starts attacking me. You know, again, it's like these Christian people.
00:18:42.580 I didn't attack him. I didn't. I said, he doesn't understand the reality of what he's pushing.
00:18:48.380 Men commit suicide to this, Matt. Yeah. Go yourself. I've seen men that are on the brink
00:18:54.220 of suicide. And when you push that, you might not know it, but you're sending men to their death.
00:18:59.220 screw you if you don't think that's important to be accurate about that so
00:19:04.400 screw you if you don't think it's good to talk about or screw you if you don't think it's relevant
00:19:10.460 to talk about the risks screw you for being dishonest about these numbers i actually do
00:19:18.240 understand it better than you you follow like 20 bajillion topics uh you got married to one woman
00:19:28.960 I've seen how this thing plays out in the long haul. Not everybody is an elitist, right? Not
00:19:34.460 everybody is a high class person living in the silver, in a silver towel. Like people with money
00:19:41.980 have different choices, but you have no idea how bad a divorce hits a middle American, like the
00:19:47.900 middle class men, they get it the worst. You know, the upper class men, they recover because they can
00:19:54.340 afford lawyers, but it's the men that can't, and they're funding their wife divorcing them.
00:19:58.960 Is it true that men are suicidal from divorce? Yeah.
00:20:04.020 Big terrible deal for men. And she later explains, quote, would you ever sign a contract that fails
00:20:09.700 75% of the time where your business partner is paid to break the contract? Why would you encourage
00:20:15.240 men to sign that contract until the terms are fixed? If no one ever taught you how to manage
00:20:19.900 your money or you're secretly ashamed of where you're at financially all right screw you free
00:20:25.420 financial literacy course you may be surprised to learn that marriages fail at a rate of 75
00:20:35.600 yeah and now he's going to belittle it okay we want we want to talk about the numbers matt
00:20:41.060 let's talk about him. 45% divorce rate. On top of that, most women gain 30, 80% of women gain 30
00:20:53.600 pounds in the first five years of marriage. A quarter of marriages are sexless. And most people
00:21:02.660 believe that that number is a lot higher. Most women lead the relationships. Most women are in
00:21:10.640 charge. That's why we have phrases like happy wife, happy life. And you can gaslight men,
00:21:15.240 but they're not stupid. They're going to see this. I have it in a folder, but I can actually
00:21:23.440 break down, and I'm going to do a video on this, breaking down if there's a hundred marriages,
00:21:27.580 what your odds are of each thing happening. Yeah, even if the divorce odds are one in three,
00:21:34.840 which he'll claim, not three in four, it's still more risky than Russian roulette.
00:21:38.380 look we all know if you include out of the people that stay together if you include
00:21:44.000 sexless marriages if you include wives that got obscenely fat if you include bitchy wives
00:21:50.700 we know it's more than 50 percent the figure that people like this normally use is 50 percent
00:21:59.000 and the claim that 50 percent of marriages end in divorce is already spurious and we'll have more
00:22:03.760 on that in a moment. Yeah, because you didn't think through it, because your stupid writers
00:22:08.960 do everything for you. 75%? I was wondering where that number came from, so I scrolled down and I
00:22:15.340 saw something that she reposted from an alleged lawyer who said this, quote, it's not 50-50,
00:22:20.520 that only accounts for divorces. Another 25% on the negative side for miserable men trapped and
00:22:26.460 cheaper to keep her marriages unwilling to risk financial destruction and loss of their children.
00:22:31.280 75% chance of a devastatingly bad outcome is just a bad plan. No sane person would enter into a
00:22:38.740 commercial contract on such terms. Now I did ask him where he got this 75% figure from.
00:22:46.000 And the worst part is they have such big egos. Like it's just turned into this Jesus rock star
00:22:53.060 like bullshit. They just use the religion to get as much attention and clout as possible.
00:22:59.020 Guys, I have a whole video breaking down the actual divorce rates.
00:23:03.200 It's called How Conservatives Are Lying to You About Marriage.
00:23:06.040 If you want to see it, go there.
00:23:07.840 And he wouldn't say.
00:23:09.620 Apparently, the magic statistic fairy came and whispered it in his ear.
00:23:13.580 And that's a liberal tactic, right?
00:23:16.020 He's going into it in bad faith, where he's saying, oh, you're just lying.
00:23:20.100 You're just making this stuff up.
00:23:21.520 Well, if that's what you think, why would we even have a discussion?
00:23:24.280 all the men getting divorced matt really we're all the whole red pill is just making this up
00:23:30.560 here now for her part pearl later tweeted a picture of pierce brosnan with his wife of 20
00:23:36.360 years and she questioned whether the marriage counts as successful since brosnan wife brosnan's
00:23:42.120 wife has put on some weight at the age of 60 so apparently even yeah and now he's gonna white
00:23:48.060 night now he's gonna white night yes ladies get fat do it gain a bunch of weight
00:23:54.460 Men love that.
00:23:56.360 If they're happy and have remained married for two decades,
00:24:00.100 How do you know they're happy?
00:24:01.520 They still might fall into that 75% failure rate
00:24:04.820 because they have not both remained in supermodel condition into their 60s.
00:24:09.660 This debate on social media brought out the rest of the marriage skeptical crowd on the right.
00:24:14.300 A bunch of these red pill influencers decided to hop on an emergency Zoom call
00:24:19.500 and spend two hours talking about me and the rest of the Daily Wire crew.
00:24:23.480 and our reckless promotion of society's most fundamental institution.
00:24:28.260 Now, there's there's one clip here that you should see.
00:24:30.680 This is apparently a divorce lawyer who says that the failure rate for marriage is not 50 percent and it's not 75 percent.
00:24:41.980 It is, in fact, even higher.
00:24:44.400 Listen, I think marriage can be successful, of course.
00:24:48.020 It's just not something that's as scalable as we as a society are trying to pretend it is.
00:24:54.060 Marriage is, and I've said this a hundred times and I'll say it a hundred more.
00:24:57.180 Marriage is like the lottery.
00:24:58.800 You are probably not going to win.
00:25:02.380 Okay?
00:25:02.740 You're probably not going to win.
00:25:04.200 Don't make that your 401k.
00:25:06.200 You're probably not going to win.
00:25:08.580 But if you win, what you win.
00:25:11.140 Okay, and that's the ego.
00:25:12.460 and this is this is what i really cannot stand about traditional conservatives they're just
00:25:19.660 they are just not pragmatic at all every conservative thinks they are above the
00:25:26.300 numbers they all think they won't be statistics if everyone else is getting 30 year old
00:25:33.400 women that are giving them one maybe two children what do you think your wife is most likely going
00:25:39.560 to be? Most people are going to be single parents. If most people are getting divorced and not
00:25:48.400 staying together, what do you think your future is probably going to be? And there's this cope,
00:25:53.720 you know, I'll be different. I'll be special. Why do you have such a big ego to think that
00:25:58.380 you're different or special? Seriously. Why? Why would you not have the same results as everyone
00:26:03.900 else yeah there we go is so great that i don't blame you for buying a ticket and trying i
00:26:14.580 personally don't buy lottery tickets but when somebody says yeah i played a lottery hey man
00:26:18.320 somebody's got to win and you know what as long as you're not blowing money that you need for food
00:26:22.960 or to put shoes on your kids feet you're not hurting anybody go out give it a try so i always
00:26:28.260 tell people listen marriage when it works when you have somebody who's married 20 plus years and
00:26:32.700 they're still crazy about each other. That is the exception, not the rule. But when you do it,
00:26:38.200 it's phenomenal. It's phenomenal. So why not buy the ticket, take the ride, but have a prenup?
00:26:42.780 Wear a seatbelt, guys. You can be a safe driver, but wear a seatbelt.
00:26:47.680 So a happy marriage, he says, is like winning the lottery. And the thing about the lottery
00:26:52.060 is that almost everybody loses. This is a perfect summation of how this entire club
00:26:58.180 views marriage and the message that they're sending to young men in particular.
00:27:04.160 Sure, it can be great, they concede, but only if you're insanely lucky.
00:27:09.040 Everybody else is screwed. This is a rather bleak view of marriage, and thankfully,
00:27:14.140 it's also nonsense. First of all, the claim that marriage isn't scalable
00:27:18.360 is obviously ridiculous, because marriage has served as the bedrock of human society
00:27:24.660 since time immemorial and as soon as people got the option to opt out they did
00:27:30.520 you know again i don't really care what people say and again that's that's the issue you get
00:27:37.480 with traditional conservatives a lot of times they go off of what the woman says i go off of
00:27:44.820 what people do again if it was that great why did everybody opt out the first second they got
00:27:51.760 Seriously. Seriously. That's my question. Why?
00:27:56.680 It has already happened at the scale of civilization for thousands of years.
00:28:03.500 Now, the divorce lawyers come along and say that, you know, this thing that society has been doing forever.
00:28:08.800 Turns out it doesn't work.
00:28:09.920 So the next way conservatives manipulate you, okay, is they use history as a way to paint what's not going to happen in your lifetime.
00:28:27.060 So what they'll do is they'll say, well, this movement's going to happen because at this time in history it worked.
00:28:33.320 Well, you know, it's, it's like, so what they'll do is they'll say, oh, well, a hundred years ago, you know, we propagated women back.
00:28:46.000 And I'm like, well, let's look outside.
00:28:51.360 You know, it's like, imagine if you're going to make a decision as a business, because really, in a way, you should kind of look at your time, your resources, your energy as a business.
00:28:59.280 You only have so much of it.
00:29:00.760 so if you came to a business owner right and you said all right make this decision um you know the
00:29:08.920 business the business owner would say okay well has anyone else made this decision how did it go
00:29:13.340 for them they're like well half of them it didn't work out and a quarter are sexless and fat 25%
00:29:20.900 chance of it working and then if you take the risk you know well it's probably not going to work but
00:29:26.720 and business owners take risks all the time where they know they're not going to make their money
00:29:31.620 back, but they know. Right. Um, but imagine if that person went to the business owner and said,
00:29:38.040 well, a hundred years ago, this worked and the business owner would say, uh, okay,
00:29:43.640 does that work today? And the business owner, uh, and the investor said, well, no, but you know,
00:29:51.280 100 years ago, the business owner would say, well, I don't care. And I'm not saying that
00:29:57.440 history doesn't repeat itself, but we cannot predict how the future is going to go. You never
00:30:03.380 can. So it takes a big ego to believe you can really predict how the next 100 years are going
00:30:11.560 to go. I don't know. I can't say. Based on what I see now, I could tell you what I think may happen,
00:30:18.440 but who knows um but they'll say well a hundred years ago this works well matt today it's not
00:30:26.780 working so now what unless you're the one in a million it's it's ridiculous it's a ridiculous
00:30:35.160 claim now what about the failure rate of marriages in our culture we've heard 50 percent we've heard
00:30:40.960 75 percent we just heard that they they fail at a rate similar to the rate that people lose the
00:30:46.260 lottery, which would mean higher than 99%, a lot higher. Yet these kinds of astronomical odds
00:30:53.980 are not based in anything but the doom and gloom speculations of the people inventing them.
00:30:59.780 There is no evidence that having a happy marriage is as unlikely as winning the lottery or that
00:31:05.860 75% of marriages end in misery. And what about the 50% number? Well, this is at least is a familiar
00:31:12.620 your statistic. It's something that you've probably heard before. 50% of marriages end
00:31:16.960 in divorce. Oh my God, this tastes so good. You guys hit it out the park. Well, thank you. It's
00:31:22.600 because it's different. It's fermented. It's familiar, but it is bogus. And one way you know
00:31:29.300 that it's bogus is that people have been claiming that 50% of marriages end in divorce since I was
00:31:35.240 a kid. I've been hearing that my whole life. And that would mean that divorce rates are static
00:31:42.020 across time but of course that isn't the case in fact we know the divorce rates have gone down in
00:31:51.280 recent years okay let's see divorce rate from 1950 we all know why it's gone down to present
00:32:01.320 okay so again this is it's so dishonest what they do
00:32:08.960 so the divorce rate's gone down
00:32:16.000 from 22 divorces per thousand women
00:32:21.740 to 20 so what they'll do is when it's stayed relatively stagnant they'll just zoom in a lot
00:32:31.340 to make it look like there was a big change i guess she was coming at erica kirk and i don't
00:32:36.780 then there was like underground tunnels and i'm like you were just going on too many tangents for
00:32:41.940 me i'm gonna react to her claims um and i don't know i just see her on twitter i think sometimes
00:32:47.760 these people get like god complexes they're just told they're awesome too much where they just kind
00:32:54.140 of it just builds their ego and i can just tell she's got a big ego heads from the police from
00:33:00.200 the white house even uh certainly at the very least pointing out the very many holes in this
00:33:06.240 story. And if any of us, any one of us had the audacity or the desire to carry on Charlie Kirk's
00:33:12.440 show, that would be the appropriate venue for asking those sorts of questions. But no,
00:33:16.980 I was wrong. Silence. Silence is what we were met with. In fact, I am told that these people
00:33:22.820 believe the official narrative. Lone shooter. No one else involved. Just a crazy guy with too
00:33:29.560 many pronouns in his bio. Yeah, to be honest, that actually makes perfect sense to me. Look,
00:33:34.260 this is the information i've gotten from behind the scenes in this industry um i was told that
00:33:41.460 charlie was warned before he died that something like this could happen right i was told that
00:33:48.820 people in the end maybe not close to him but other people doing similar things that he has done have
00:33:55.220 said that it's very dangerous what he's doing and kind of just seeing the way charlie went about
00:34:02.980 things and i would say the attitude in the industry as a whole is that no one's really
00:34:07.940 going to do anything i think that's why it was such a shock when he got shot because nothing
00:34:12.420 like this has happened before um but i i i don't think charlie made it that hard to shoot him if
00:34:22.580 i'm being honest because i just i don't think he was overly precautious um
00:34:32.980 People had told him not to like do the Coliseum type of that, you know, with, um, cause it's
00:34:38.280 just very hard to protect someone from all angles.
00:34:44.160 So, I mean, that, that's just my two cents.
00:34:48.540 I, I think that Charlie was a little bit careless and it cost him his life.
00:34:53.800 That's because when you are attacking a mentally ill group of people like trans people, um,
00:35:00.720 I mean, they do crazy things.
00:35:02.160 so hey 1963 called and they want their narrative back all that's missing from the story is a grassy
00:35:06.480 knoll yeah and you know she's trying to frame it as crazy but to me it makes perfect sense i think
00:35:12.960 her like going on all these different tangents like you know first it was the jays who did it
00:35:18.800 then it was um you know now i guess she was coming at erica kirk and i don't know then there was like
00:35:26.560 underground tunnels and i'm like you were just going on too many tangents for me
00:35:33.760 i see no anyways back at headquarters i am told it's business as usual
00:35:37.520 and it's kind of giving me like i don't know lbj when it gets sworn in in that famous picture uh
00:35:43.680 unfortunately sworn in unfortunately of course he's sad in this photo gosh he's obviously not
00:35:48.960 wanting to be the president united states jfk was shot and killed and now lbj has to step up
00:35:54.720 unfortunately. But I got to be honest, I wasn't there. I don't think LBJ was actually that upset.
00:36:01.140 I don't know why. Vibes. The vibes just aren't vibing for me in that picture. But maybe,
00:36:05.640 maybe he was. Maybe the truth is that LBJ, simply, to use an expression, had his wits about him.
00:36:12.760 And JFK had a plan. Like in the event that he had been horrifically assassinated in front of
00:36:17.780 the world, JFK maybe had a succession plan. Now, if these terms I'm using here sound familiar to
00:36:22.260 you, it's because they should sound familiar. It's the exact terminology that was utilized by
00:36:25.480 Pastor Rob McCoy just four days after Charlie was murdered. In front of his congregation,
00:36:30.740 he spoke about Charlie's succession plan that he was somehow privy to. I don't know why,
00:36:35.580 but he knew four days later and announced to the world that Charlie indeed had a plan. Take a
00:36:40.440 listen. Everyone's worried about the leadership of TPUSA. Don't. He was wise enough at 31
00:36:49.060 to put together a plan for succession.
00:36:57.100 It's very clear what they decided,
00:36:58.780 and they're implementing it now.
00:37:00.680 Amazing. I mean, amazing.
00:37:02.660 So on September 14th,
00:37:03.580 we were made aware of this succession plan,
00:37:06.080 and I find that to be fascinating.
00:37:07.860 The people who didn't even know Charlie
00:37:10.400 all around the world
00:37:11.780 seem to be fighting harder for him,
00:37:14.560 fighting harder for truth,
00:37:15.840 and it is, in fact,
00:37:16.940 thanks to people on the internet
00:37:18.220 like Sam Parker, James Lee, Ian Carroll, Zeb Boykin, many others, that a video from September
00:37:25.240 10th has gone pretty viral. Okay. So let's take a look at this. It's a video of, of course,
00:37:30.620 Pastor Rob McCoy's son. His name is Mike McCoy. And you're going to see what he does, not in the
00:37:36.260 seconds following Charlie getting shot, but in less than one second after Charlie gets shot.
00:37:42.180 These are not seconds, less than one second. You're going to watch what Michael McCoy does.
00:37:45.600 First, let's hear his daddy's version of the events.
00:37:48.260 Take it away, Pastor McCoy.
00:37:50.360 As a father, I just want to protect my son.
00:37:54.080 And I thought, I got a plan for you, son.
00:37:56.100 He said, Dad, that's not Charlie's plan.
00:37:59.200 And you know what?
00:38:00.820 I'm looking at my son who's 24 years old.
00:38:04.020 Justin's the chief, CFO, chief financial officer, and Mikey's the chief of staff.
00:38:09.080 And I'm watching, the minute Charlie was shot, he called me, says, Dad, Charlie's been shot
00:38:12.640 in the neck.
00:38:13.200 Please call every pastor and pray.
00:38:15.180 it's okay son he has wits about him he's just directing he had blood all over him
00:38:24.160 two things i want you to remember here you may have caught that but he said
00:38:29.020 i was watching and the minute charlie got shot he called and and mikey mccoy says to his dad
00:38:35.520 charlie's been shot pray for him he says the minute maybe he's being a little hyperbolic
00:38:38.460 we're gonna find out i'd certainly like to find okay i just this is kind of grasping at straws
00:38:43.620 i need some like evidence is she gonna get to that let's go but he stops because i was watching
00:38:50.960 watching what exactly what were you watching i remember that it's rubbing me the wrong way and
00:38:55.500 i'm gonna tell you why that's talking me the wrong way in a little bit but the bigger thing
00:38:57.920 is that he says mikey had blood all over him except mikey did not have blood anywhere near
00:39:03.420 him because mikey was behind the tent when charlie got shot and mikey in less than a second
00:39:11.420 does something that I find to be quite strange.
00:39:14.360 He puts his phone to his ear and he begins a conversation.
00:39:17.560 So we're going to watch that clip in its entirety.
00:39:20.120 Mark is going to bring it in.
00:39:29.480 So we decided to slow this clip down
00:39:31.240 and we're going to watch this clip slow down
00:39:33.320 so you can see that it is exactly 834 milliseconds
00:39:38.300 from the time that you hear the shot.
00:39:41.020 that is how long it takes for mikey mccoy to put the phone to his ear now why is that
00:39:46.780 honey you might call 9-1-1 uh nice timing so important okay i need to just keep a doc i'm
00:39:52.780 gonna do a google doc here and take notes we're gonna talk about what is the evidence evidence
00:40:01.420 man man puts phone to his ear okay because there's no dialing mikey didn't have time to dial
00:40:10.300 okay you can't dial and put your phone to an ear in 0.834 seconds the next time that you're going
00:40:15.340 to see mike mikey mccoy as we just showed you is in just under two and a half okay but if i wanted
00:40:21.980 to call someone i mean what i would do is i would like look at my call log and usually like that's
00:40:31.660 kind of how i call if i don't feel like searching for a contact i open the call log and usually
00:40:37.260 there on like my last few calls you know because you kind of call the same people you know half
00:40:41.400 seconds on the other side of the tent he's on a phone call so we can track mikey but let's watch
00:40:45.920 the clip again in milliseconds so you really grasp how quickly this transpires
00:40:50.240 so when this clip was brought
00:40:54.500 there we go we're tracking that yeah when the clip was brought to my attention i i obviously have a
00:41:03.480 file, a big folder of files of every angle. And I decided to track Mikey from every angle available
00:41:08.700 to see like, maybe we just missed it. And he did at some point, put that phone down, dial a number,
00:41:13.040 speed dial, hold down one. I don't know. Maybe we missed it. Cause that seems, that seems automatic,
00:41:18.960 right? 0.834. That seems pretty quick. And no, no, he doesn't do that. Uh, we even have him in
00:41:26.320 front of Charlie's car. Uh, when Charlie's car is, uh, when Charlie is brought to the car,
00:41:30.500 the waiting car, rather. He is still on the phone. I can show you the clip of that. Take a look at
00:41:34.360 this. Don't worry. We'll slow it down for you. See him in the background with the backpack.
00:41:39.280 It's Mickey McCoy. Okay. So what are we to make of that? The only logical conclusion that I can
00:41:46.360 come up with and many others, because I pressed, I said, play devil's advocate. I want you to
00:41:50.220 advocate for Mikey McCoy. I want you to play lawyer and you are representing your client,
00:41:55.160 Mikey McCoy. What was he, how did he do it this quickly? No one could win this game. The only
00:41:58.700 logical conclusion we come up with was that Mikey was already on a phone call at 1223 p.m.
00:42:04.100 By 1223 p.m. He was already on a phone call. So I said, let's go back a little earlier in the
00:42:08.640 footage and see if we can find when he actually maybe dials onto the phone. Maybe we can see him
00:42:14.020 pick up the phone and begin a call before the shot takes off. And then after being that call,
00:42:18.580 if we're following this logic, that would mean he puts his phone down until Charlie gets shot.
00:42:24.280 And we were able to find what we think could be that moment. And I can tell you that it is one
00:42:28.020 minutes and 45 seconds, approximately, before that shot goes off. And we can watch that here.
00:42:34.380 I see Mikey's on his phone here. And you're going to see he pulls it up and he starts to
00:42:37.980 cover his ear again. Now, that could be unrelated. Again, we're taking a guess.
00:42:42.940 Yeah, that's unreal. I mean, you're at an allowed event.
00:42:47.060 That's here. That's what made the most sense to us because we couldn't justify it in any other way.
00:42:51.800 And I want to be clear, we're not here to make assumptions, okay? And we wouldn't have to make
00:42:55.700 any assumptions if turning point usa could just tell the truth they could just be open and they
00:43:01.380 could be honest about everything okay i obviously yeah but the problem is candace is kind of crazy
00:43:06.900 right and you know this kind of happened to me not with candy a different situation i'll give
00:43:12.420 you an analogy so there was a point where i had an accusation of being a colonizer and giving
00:43:20.180 people slave contracts at my company the truth was i made zero dollars off of any of these people
00:43:25.380 actually lost more money than i made and the more information i put out the more the conspiracy
00:43:31.220 theorists would just any facts that i put out they would find a way to make it like fit their
00:43:35.700 narrative so obviously like if you're out accusing everyone of murder no one's really going to want
00:43:41.700 want to work with you.