00:56:56.580um um okay gabriel joris says money for blessing i canceled the daily wire mistreating you
00:57:04.280i didn't see that as a mistreating me i'd like to clarify guys you know it's a debate
00:57:09.180we're going there to debate i don't think i was mistreated in any way so don't think that
00:57:14.880daniel reed also gave us 22 for support i really appreciate it i just i i know they're not correct
00:57:21.420and that that was my point i don't really care about buzz clips i don't care about winning a
00:57:26.780debate i care about young men knowing what they're signing up for that's what i care about
00:57:34.100don't none of this no one mistreated me they're just not correct that's that's what it is at the
00:57:42.240end of the day. Okay, the next person we can bring on. Hello, what's your name? Hello, how are you?
00:57:54.080Jaden. Good, how are you? How old are you? I'm 26. Okay, 26. Where are you at? I live in Texas.
00:58:02.200Okay, I hear the Texix accent. And what do you do? I do property inspections, mainly residential,
00:58:09.240but commercial as well. Okay, so what type of mother was your mother? My mother was a great
00:58:16.120mother. She was, you could definitely say overprotective, overbearing, but to a minor
00:58:22.060extent, and she always had the best intentions, which to me, intentions don't matter if the result
00:58:27.940isn't what's supposed to be there, but she was a very godly woman. She would, I would say she is the
00:58:34.240rock one of the rocks in our family in regards to um being christ-centered and religion in those
00:58:42.680aspects but it's my dad wasn't as much of a strong father so i think she kind of took over
00:58:50.760more strength than that because of that but she was a very very good mother what made her different
00:58:56.280than the mothers that we see today i don't know how much you'll you know you'll like this but
00:59:04.040I truly believe it is the spirit of God that dwells in her.
00:59:07.960I think that if she was not a Christian and not just Christian by group, sect, religion, morality, common group, but she was a believer and a follower of Christ.
00:59:19.820And I think that that exuded through everything that she did in life.
01:03:07.120I'm not sure that I, I ended up as a teenager when I was 17, I ended up going to live with
01:03:14.180my dad just because the tension kind of being in the home with her was a lot.
01:03:20.820And I had always been more of like closer to my dad.
01:03:25.540Um, and when they divorced, actually, if I had been old enough to choose, I would have chosen to go live with my dad because he was a provider. His home was more stable. So I definitely would have gone that route earlier on if I could have. Um, but, uh, it definitely things got tense. And then there was some resentment, um, between she and I have, you know, you're only going to live with your dad because, you know, he,
01:03:55.540he's stable or like you know has has money you think he'll just get you whatever you want
01:04:00.640this kind of thing and he was not wealthy at all he you know after the divorce he lost basically
01:04:07.620everything so that was mothers hate mothers hate daughters that do that they hate they hate yeah
01:04:15.000hate it when the daughter picks the dad yeah I could and I guess I could see like having gone
01:04:21.540through that myself, I could see how that would be, um, difficult, but I think that she was really
01:04:27.360blessed to have the, the kind of dad that my, that my father was to, to me. Um, I think she was
01:04:35.920blessed in that respect to have a partner like him and co-parenting and she just didn't, she
01:04:40.960wasn't appreciative of it. So. Did you feel, did you feel like you became your mother or do you
01:04:46.520think you're different than her? Um, no, I, I really see and see that was kind of where I made
01:04:54.620my, my mistake is that I wanted to be like, so different from her that, um, that was what kept
01:05:03.060me in the relationship that I was in for so long. And I'm not, I know like you talk on your show
01:05:10.040about how women will trash the guy, so I won't go into that, but I did everything that I could
01:05:20.240to stay in that, and it was only when things got to the point that it started negatively
01:05:28.320affecting my children that I had to get out. And it was, I don't like to use extreme examples or
01:05:40.580anything like that, but I will say it got to that point where it was taking a toll on my children
01:05:47.980and I just absolutely uh and and was it a substance like a substance it was substance abuse
01:05:56.000um and uh so yeah substance abuse there was just some mental issues there that um I think I
01:06:08.440I was naive to a lot I grew up Southern Baptist so I didn't grow up around you know like drug use or
01:06:14.880drinking or anything like that um so I didn't I wasn't aware of like the signs to look to look
01:06:22.460for and um so it just did your dad like him when you first met him looking back on it I I don't
01:06:31.840think he did and and I met uh so my ex-husband the father of my my three kids uh I met him when
01:06:38.340I was 17 turning 18. Um, and I think that I don't think my dad liked him. Um, if he,
01:06:48.320if my dad had come to me and said something, this, this is where, uh, I wish, you know,
01:06:55.860like I could go say, I could say that I wish I had done a lot of things differently, but
01:07:00.440I wish that he would have felt more confident in speaking up and saying, I don't think this
01:07:09.120is the man for you. And, and I think that probably the culture that he grew up in at the time,
01:07:16.380where it was happy wife, happy life. And my mom was kind of in that same age range as like
01:07:21.940princess Diana, where like, that was the trendy thing to do is if you're not happy,
01:07:26.860you just leave the marriage. It's like, like you deserve to be happy and you should do whatever
01:07:31.860it takes to get to that point. Um, and he grew up kind of in that culture that's ruled by women.
01:07:37.880And so I don't think he felt like it was his place to speak up. And I, I, I really wish he
01:07:44.420would have. So, um, but how old's your youngest? He's five. So, um, I found out actually the day
01:07:54.180that he was born. Um, as I was going into surgery, I don't know why it was that day at that time,
01:07:59.740but that was the time that my ex decided to come clean about, uh, the substance use and everything
01:08:07.880the day that I had him. So, and I, I take full responsibility. I mean, like I had three children
01:08:13.640with this man, you know, so there, you know, there's, there's a lot of stuff that I have to
01:08:19.480take ownership of of you know that's the person that I chose and that's the decision that I have
01:08:25.640to live with and I have to to take up to my kids and say I'm I'm sorry like I failed you because
01:08:32.920this is the man that I picked how it's gonna be how has he done since has he like recovered at
01:08:38.060all or how's he doing now um in some ways when it when it comes to uh like the the anger and
01:08:49.460and the controlling stuff and the like the scariness of things um in some ways like that's
01:08:56.400become a lot better and I deal with him a lot better because I'm not like uh afraid to deal
01:09:04.360with him anymore because the sometimes the the scariest part isn't like actually getting out of
01:09:10.060it it's like once you're out like you think that they're gonna be that they're gonna come in and
01:09:14.800take revenge somehow but um uh in a lot of ways he's he's he's doing well now like in his his
01:09:24.100career but he hasn't stabilized really he's basically um he he lived with a girlfriend
01:09:30.880for a while now he's basically homeless and um you know so it's he's basically homeless like he
01:09:38.660can't afford his rent and stuff no he he could if he wanted to he's just not he's basically
01:09:44.400like a child living in a 37 year old's body and i don't i know i'm gonna get so much hate probably
01:09:50.220like in the chat for this for like because i'm not don't worry about the chat it's fine but um
01:09:55.080they turn on me so it's all right they turn on me all the time but yeah it's uh
01:10:01.580in a lot of ways like i in a lot of ways i i'm like the the on the the man's side of this where
01:10:11.120like in a traditional sense if the if if I were a man then you know I would have to be the one
01:10:18.280like paying him for things and even though like he he can't care for the children and things like
01:10:23.400that and um so it's uh I kind of treat him like I would treat a oh he's a very feminine man now
01:10:34.300to me. And in a lot of sense, like he calls me a, what is it? A misogynist. And because I,
01:10:42.060I have told him, I'm like, you need, you need to help provide for your children. And, uh, you know,
01:10:48.420like these are, you helped create them and I'm not asking for child support or anything. I've
01:10:55.880just asked, you know, like, please get yourself into a position where you can, you know, see them,
01:11:02.040You can visit them and it doesn't have to be like coming to pick them up to spend time with them.
01:11:08.100So his his career is doing a lot better.
01:11:10.480He's stabilized and he's actually gotten promotions and everything and in his job so that he's on track with.
01:11:18.120And I'm trying to help him get to a point where he can where he's a normal adult so that he can be a dad.
01:11:26.820So do you you have an you have an engineering job?
01:11:29.940yeah are you able to then afford because i just imagine that pays recently well you can at least
01:11:36.180afford it yeah yeah no that's that's one area that i'm very blessed in and and i i will say
01:11:43.000like i have to give him credit because during some of the time that we were together so we were
01:11:48.040together uh 15 years and then married for 13 um so like six or seven of those years he was working
01:11:57.200a steady job that paid well. And it actually like afforded me the ability to go back to the school.
01:12:03.700And, um, then there was like the last three or four years of our marriage, he just quit working.
01:12:10.800He, that was when he started having some, some mental issues. And, um, so I had finished my,
01:12:17.740uh, degrees and he said, uh, he, he stopped working. He just decided to stop working.
01:12:25.240And so I was like, well, this would be a good time for you to go back to school.
01:12:29.080And because he had he only had a GED at the time that I said, you know, you could go back to school for whatever you want.
01:12:36.780And I'll carry the weight of this and we'll work it out and everything.
01:12:42.460So he provided well enough that during that time when I was in school, it was going to school full time, working part time and then taking care of the kids, taking care of the house.
01:12:56.360And so that was kind of our dynamic for, for the good years, I'll say for the, you know, um, we had probably seven to nine years that were fairly quiet. We would have drama and stuff still going on, but, but fairly tolerable.
01:13:13.680Do you think that if he like got his act together, there'd be room for like reconciliation at some point? It seems like you had a good thing going, at least in the beginning. You know, like, it seems like that could be recreated, or do you think he's too far gone?
01:13:30.420Um, I can't. So I don't think that I could ever get to a place where where I could ever love him again the way that he deserves to be loved.
01:13:46.120I think that if you're going to forgive someone and stay in that relationship, then you need to be able to kind of go with a clean slate and have an open heart with them.
01:13:59.720And I think that the damage that was done is just too much.
01:14:04.100And I think that he also will fall into these tendencies to go back to how he treated me.
01:14:11.860I think once you get used to treating someone a certain way, that that doesn't go away easily.
01:14:17.160And so the boundaries that he's used to me not having and not standing up to and everything,
01:14:24.180because his, his girlfriend, now ex-girlfriend, she had very good boundaries. She had better,
01:14:30.120better boundaries than I did. Um, she stood up to him, to a lot of things that I didn't stand up
01:14:36.840for myself in. So, um, I've kind of seen that. And, uh, I just don't think, I think he falls
01:14:44.540into the pattern of treating me a certain way. And I, and I just can't, I think everybody deserves
01:14:52.120to be loved to their fullest extent as cheesy as that probably sounds but if you can't like
01:14:59.920just with adultery or anything else if you can't get past it then you should let that person go
01:15:06.880so that they can have a chance with someone else do you do you think like would he tell the story
01:15:12.500the same way? I think he would tell it in a very similar way. But he would probably leave out the
01:15:32.260part. So I've heard him tell this story and I've heard from other people, you know, the story that
01:15:40.200he does tell. And so the things that he throws in is the, is the things that I did wrong. And
01:15:48.720I, and, uh, there, there was plenty, there, there were plenty of things that I did wrong that I,
01:15:56.860I let myself go. Um, it wasn't really that, um, like in, in an intimate sense there,
01:16:04.300there were never any issues with anything like that. Um, but I mean, I couldn't have given up
01:16:14.060and not had regrets about this unless I had done everything in my power to try to save it.
01:16:19.940And he knows that he, he knows how, how hard I tried to get him to, to change. And the thing
01:16:28.740like people won't change unless they want to and um i i mean i was in church for a long time
01:16:35.340you know i'm in the south so that's kind of a given but um but i i listened to everyone else
01:16:42.800that said if you just pray hard enough if you if you just believe enough if you're the wife that
01:16:47.540you're supposed to be that will make him become the husband that he's supposed to be and it just
01:16:52.720became a matter of like, I can't change a person. So what kind of mother do you think you are to
01:17:00.840your kids? It's impossible to be objective in that question, I think. And I mean, I'll try.
01:17:13.220My, my kids, um, so like some, so my oldest is 15. I have two daughters, 15, 12, and my son is five. Um, there are plenty of times that they don't like me for, for lots of things for, uh, being too strict.
01:17:36.340um but i don't um that's that's a difficult question but i try to be okay i'm not judging
01:17:47.800you i'm just wondering no no i it's a it's a good question um i was listening to the descriptions
01:17:56.400and trying to find one that you can maybe i fell into you can make one up if you think of one
01:18:02.460I wouldn't be able to come up with a name, but I guess it would be, I just want everybody in my household to have peace.
01:18:15.700For so long, we were kind of, I mean, at least myself and my oldest, too, we had to walk on eggshells.
01:18:26.020We couldn't really make jokes or cut up the way that we wanted to in our house.
01:18:32.460I try for my household to be peaceful most of the time, for them to be comfortable.
01:18:41.580I do have rules that they have to follow.
01:18:44.900And I try to teach them as much of kind of the red pill things, just to make them aware
01:18:58.240of what they're going to encounter later on.
01:19:00.580And I don't like to think of myself as raising children.
01:19:04.100I feel like my role is to raise future adults.
01:19:09.760So I'm trying to prepare them for things that they're going to need to know.
01:19:12.840And a lot of times they'll ask me, like, how do you just know how to do these things?
01:19:18.300Like, how do you just know how to go and open a checking account?
01:19:21.320Or how do you know, like, what you're supposed to do with your taxes or, you know, different
01:19:29.160it's kind of different things that they're just amazed by even when it comes to like chores you
01:19:37.140know and and I'll um like my kids were kind of stunned one time when I just put the fitted sheet
01:19:43.080on they're like you you got that on the right way like in the first try and it's kids are are just
01:19:48.320funny and in some of their their observations but um I would say I'm mostly laid back I'm not
01:19:58.520I definitely don't think I'm a helicopter parent, but I like to check in.
01:20:03.700I want for them to do their best and I let them know like,
01:24:31.500you're so you like cut it they don't even get to say bye sorry no i'm not i'm not mad i'm just
01:24:43.220like another story i won't finish okay hold on hold on one second um i just thought
01:24:51.560i saw something can you tell them about our new t-shirts and stuff just one second i need one
01:24:59.340second then we'll take the next one put on your yeah guys we have a new merch coming up that we
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01:25:42.420sure of this no no yet but yeah guys if you can go to the website and support that would be
01:25:50.420greatly appreciated um sorry guys i had to check something i know i get distracted
01:26:00.580okay never mind i thought i saw i got a notification and i thought it was something
01:26:08.820completely different i'll tell you later okay um all right so what kind of so again see look
01:26:17.940i'm so good i'm so good this woman this woman she had the competing mother so i'm gonna go
01:26:26.980through the archetypes one more time for those who don't remember by the way if you have other
01:26:32.420descriptions these are just the ones i came through but i thought of so many more but i just
01:26:37.220I thought I didn't have time. We have the helicopter mom, the best friend mom, the competitive mother, the career mother, the princess treatment housewife, the nagging lazy housewife, the pass on your trauma to your mother, the retirement plan mother, the son husband mother, and the Proverbs 31 mother.
01:26:54.580Maybe you got lucky. I don't know. I don't know. You guys tell me. I'm not the end all be all. I don't know everything. I don't know what's going on.
01:27:03.700like i'm getting people from the south i'm getting people from the netherlands i'm getting people
01:27:07.540everywhere i don't know okay so put the next one hello hey how are you good how are you
01:27:19.260all right what is your name jan jan okay jan how old are you 40 all right 40 do you have kids are
01:27:28.180you married married 18 years four kids four kids okay and what type of mother oh wait and where
01:27:35.320are you uh north uh northwest northwest okay so what type of mother was your mother
01:27:42.180i'm not exactly sure but pure feminist okay that's all i could actually purely described
01:27:49.300she divorced my father and i was still my father she told me all the horrific horrible abusive
01:27:54.500he was um and then i think about four or five years ago i found out well he passed he died in
01:28:02.520a different country i thought there's going to be a western thing only no it's also east as well
01:28:07.940russia everywhere it happens everywhere and it happened past generations too all this feminism
01:28:13.640stuff so i never i never met him but my sister you never met your father yeah i never met my
01:28:22.280father so they divorced before i was born oh wow yeah he hit my sister supposedly and he was this
01:28:29.540horrific guy you know the worst of the worst he was over six feet though too so but anyway um
01:28:37.340come to find out so he had nothing to do with me but he would take my sister out for all her
01:28:44.160birthdays so if he was so horrific and abusive and this is what kind of clicked because i was
01:28:51.600like well he was horrible man i don't i don't want anything to do with him i mean you never
01:28:55.060saw me i never wanted to see him either but come to find out when he died my sister came and told
01:29:01.620me the truth that well she used to take her out on her birthdays every single time and i'm like well
01:29:05.900if he's so abusive and so horrible this was before i got red pill on everything so i started
01:29:12.240questioning i'm like why would mom allow him to take you out on your birthday give you a gift
01:29:17.480if he was so abusive and so scary how does that go into things so my mom she she's still alive
01:29:26.560but we don't talk i completely i'm i'm in the more extreme side of things so i totally erased
01:29:31.920her from my life period she can't see my her grandkids nothing um come to find out basically
01:29:39.540it's all been a lie and i don't know exactly how she
01:29:43.400kind of broke our relationship maybe she said to him she cheated maybe she did cheat I don't know
01:29:50.800I do look like him so I don't know but basically my whole entire life you know by my father and
01:29:56.180all the scary stories that she told me about him that how horrible he was and uh abusive
01:30:01.400it was all a lie but it's you know find out after he died wow so how how old were you when you found
01:30:08.340out 35 wow how did that change your worldview that i do have changed everything it started to change
01:30:17.440a lot of things that's how i came across of you know me and my wife we had our own little issues
01:30:21.660and stuff but i came across a kevin samuels and my wife found you actually so and we've been good
01:30:27.900and my mother also tried to destroy my marriage they do that you do that yeah she tried to say
01:30:33.880my wife was the worst you know horrible thing and so on and so on so i'm thinking it was a lot
01:30:39.680of projection going on so to be a healthier marriage we've never been happier than ever but
01:30:46.100the last four over four years i literally erased her from my life like completely and guess what
01:30:53.740my marriage got better family's great everybody's doing great so i told her i'm never gonna show up
01:31:00.540her funeral or anything i'm done i'm just the way she did it to me and my father i'm just gonna do
01:31:05.760that to her yeah so well and this is got like ladies this is what i'm saying when you trash
01:31:11.440your ex the kids figure sometimes they figure it out at 12 sometimes they figure it out at 15
01:31:16.760sometimes they figure it out at 35 but people are not stupid people talk and they figure it out
01:31:22.960eventually and many times the children will cut you off when you figure it out so tread carefully
01:31:29.040i mean exactly yeah i told her die alone that's because literally i that's the words i use like
01:31:35.760that's it i'm done yeah so i don't know what category to put her but extreme feminist
01:31:41.600yeah of the alcohol you know so all men are bad so why man of evil oh so do you know so did your
01:31:49.460sister have a good relationship with him until she was older too like did she see him when she
01:31:54.280got wow and she never so they're literally no it was like a secret it's it's weird did you ask
01:32:01.560yeah she's like well mom didn't want me to tell you and i'm like no way what well that's what it
01:32:10.120made me wonder because i have four uh three boys and a girl and i was wondering i was talking to
01:32:15.820my wife i'm like what will make a man not to see his son he'll see his daughter but he will never
01:32:21.800see his son like you know my first son you know my first kid was son the second one too i mean it
01:32:29.180was to me it was the greatest thing it was oh i have a son wow you know what i mean i want to be
01:32:34.160the father i've never had what would make man not to see his kids i mean actuality you know is he
01:32:42.160really that horrible so he chooses one but not the other so it made me wonder and i started thinking
01:32:47.060and i'm like did she cheat it paternity you know that's what we need to do did you ever get it
01:32:53.500tested to see if you have the same dad uh well no because he was in a different country we came from
01:32:59.200the soviet side no i meant like you and your sister like if you did a dna test like if you
01:33:04.400did 23 no my sister took my mom's side so i don't talk to my sister for four years as well
01:33:09.840i eliminated both of them that's what that's what i'm vengeful when the no when the kid when whoever
01:33:16.900in the family wait like figures it out first the mom will always try to get everyone to like go
01:33:22.340against him oh yeah yeah absolutely yeah always yeah well and i don't play games yeah you said
01:33:29.680you're you're from the soviet or you're russian yeah russia so yeah you guys yeah okay well thank
01:33:36.660you very much for calling in hey you're doing great work thank you bless it you're ruthless
01:33:42.300with it he's trying to save our time hold on hold on there's super chats or there's um venmo
01:33:49.220okay ladies ladies ladies be careful about how you talk to your about your ex-husband i've been
01:33:56.900saying this your kids will figure it out sometimes we get emotional we over exaggerate okay it
01:34:05.100happens it doesn't mean you're not abnormal many women do it but the consequence will be when you
01:34:12.580are older many times the children will figure it out and cut you off i don't know why i don't know
01:34:20.600why women do this i really don't okay um daniel reed um work support okay um thank you give me
01:34:32.980one second blessing how many do we have on twitter uh with 8 700 people wow that's so crazy
01:34:40.420x is giving us love these days yeah you know all right let's go to the next are there any
01:34:45.620girls in there or no oh hey look at that hello can you um put your camera down so i can see you
01:41:19.960and doesn't have as much i would say they're both more career oriented like the
01:41:27.500end game of the working woman are the what daycare nannies oh
01:41:37.240well what did you it dropped out oh okay well um but we must have died two two moms huh
01:41:48.280the that'll happen um give me one second not judging by the way just
01:41:57.520um give me one second is that girl back or did she drop out dropped out uh guys if you can hear
01:42:07.220the like button on youtube you got 900 people on youtube oh i wanted to i this is what i thought
01:42:13.620okay so i saw this could you pull show my screen wait hold on
01:42:21.620okay so i wanted to talk about one show my screen really quick i'm going to go back to
01:42:27.140the mother conversation i think we'll do one more maybe um okay now
01:42:34.420Now, what I've noticed from guys that tend to see the woman's point of view more or that tend to have the default to be to believe women, they haven't been red-pilled completely yet.
01:42:48.480So I would guess Jeremy is like that because he's just based on his response.
01:42:56.700Like, it's kind of based on how I see your responses on Twitter.
01:42:59.240A lot of times I'll call, not Jeremy, but I'll call people simps on Twitter.
01:43:03.140and it's not because I'm offended or whatever.
01:43:05.600It's just because I see what they're doing
01:43:07.620and it's putting the women on a pedestal.
01:43:09.200I'm just trying to point out the behavior.
01:43:10.920It's not even, I think people take it a little too seriously.