Pearl - The Daily Wire Is Part of Cancel Culture？

00:00:00.560 what is up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily here on the audacity network thank

00:00:06.480 you guys so much for tuning in today i actually thought i would start the show with my freestyling

00:00:14.160 um but today it's gonna be a little different because i want to see if i can do it

00:00:18.240 with like a pop beat on youtube but i don't know if it's gonna work

00:00:23.200 um but if you're here sit back relax i know a lot of you guys are the middle americans um the

00:00:29.200 truckers the plumbers the average americans in this country um and i know you guys work hard

00:00:34.080 for your money so i appreciate you hanging out with me here but you know sit back relax pop a

00:00:40.080 beer no i'm drinking water but it's only because i'm trying to not be fat that's it if i was you

00:00:45.840 i would drink beer okay so we're gonna do a justin bieber type beat and then you guys can put a word

00:00:57.200 in the chat and i will um create a song on oh no i can't do this i'm so dumb i can't do this because

00:01:06.880 uh copyright free i think i have to do because it can't be free okay this one's free

00:01:14.400 and um i'm gonna see if this works and you tell me if it's delayed or not

00:01:20.400 okay let me put this tab back here

00:01:22.320 share screen. Okay. It says free.

00:01:38.440 All right. So let me, let me get your chat over here so I can see it.

00:01:47.980 All right.

00:01:52.320 There's a word in the chat.

00:02:05.800 They were talking about the Kaylee Wire guys.

00:02:11.260 And I know that it's much to our surprise.

00:02:15.720 That they're kind of working for the other side.

00:02:20.300 Where do you find decent women? 1.00

00:02:40.640 Okay, I'll talk about where do you find decent women? 1.00

00:02:43.360 The contraband.

00:02:44.960 They don't exist in this country.

00:02:49.040 Hey, we ain't good, we just want the money

00:02:53.820 And I know that we were acting kind of funny

00:02:58.660 But with the problem, we didn't do it

00:03:03.220 Is this working? Did you hear the beat?

00:03:07.940 This gets kicked off with my choice

00:03:19.040 All right. Well, that's my, that's my beginning. Pearl, I can teach you how to sing from your

00:03:43.760 diaphragm. Thank you so much, David.

00:03:49.040 thank you so much thank you i appreciate it thank you it's like it's like do you know what i mean

00:03:55.900 it's like when i'm singing is that really what i want to hear is that really what i want when i'm

00:04:02.760 when i'm i'm spitballing i'm jamming and he's like well i could teach you how to sing i'm like well

00:04:07.960 now's not the time david now is not the time okay um okay before we get into today's topic

00:04:18.720 i kind of thought i'd do a fun um show in the beginning that's a little bit um a little bit

00:04:25.040 off the dome and i just want to talk about life lessons now um i'm approaching 30 i'm getting old

00:04:32.240 i'm walling you know i'm hitting that wall and so when you get old in life

00:04:38.640 things get taken from you that's just part of life but you only learn that when you start losing

00:04:42.720 stuff you learn that life's this game of inches and so is football okay that's a movie that's a

00:04:47.120 a movie i randomly oh no there's something in my teeth hold on i gotta i'm gonna share a screen

00:04:54.960 and fix this we're gonna share this screen and i'm gonna have to get this out of my teeth i'm

00:04:59.920 so sorry fellas i'm so sorry this is not my best work um let me make this full let me make this

00:05:07.840 full while i figure this out okay

00:05:24.640 if you guys are wondering i do have music on spotify i have like four songs so

00:05:30.480 it's gone now i think i think i got it all right so embarrassing this is so embarrassing it's like

00:05:35.760 ah you know okay so i'm getting old now so i've actually learned some life lessons in the few

00:05:43.520 last few years and um i would say the last like three four years of my life i've really grown up

00:05:52.280 a lot and i think the people that have watched me a long time they can kind of see that like i think

00:05:58.760 as an adult i was sort of delayed as a person and um part of that reason was because my parents did

00:06:10.760 pay for a good amount of stuff in my early 20s i lived at home for a while and i think i was just

00:06:16.600 kind of sheltered from the real world and this was a lot of criticism in my early like content

00:06:22.120 right they're like what does she know she's just some rich kid and they're kind of right you know

00:06:26.520 there's a lot i didn't know back then and a lot of life lessons i really did learn now

00:06:31.640 i'll tell you what and i think there's mental models that really um helped me in life and

00:06:38.680 there's also things that i wasted my time on so um i'd really just like to share it with you guys

00:06:46.120 you could take it or leave it um and one mental model i sort of learned from my father when i was

00:06:52.760 younger but now i put it into practice a lot more so one thing my father taught me was he said to

00:07:01.000 never ever burn a bridge and when i was younger i did not always listen to this i would say in

00:07:06.520 general i'm not really one to get into a lot of arguments with people i know shocking doing what

00:07:13.480 i do but i i think if you've watched me a while you see my nature is really not it might be

00:07:19.560 debating but i'm not really a yeller i'm not really argumentative um but there are times

00:07:23.880 when i have burned a bridge and i'll actually tell the story so when i first went on fresh

00:07:29.800 and fit when i was younger um i think i was like 23 or 24 and i got into a disagreement with myron

00:07:37.800 at the time it was kind of a long story i brought up i i brought um i basically i brought somebody

00:07:47.880 that i thought was approved by like his someone on his staff approved it but myron didn't directly

00:07:53.960 approve it so he it was like a miscommunication and after the show he was kind of stressed and

00:07:59.000 he just completely crashed out of me a little bit right um but after i decided um that i was

00:08:06.200 going to take this to the internet i told this story on the internet and instead of really going

00:08:12.120 in good faith and saying you know what myron didn't know um he was in a tough situation and

00:08:17.080 and giving him, you know, the benefit of the doubt, I got mad and I crashed out. And I talked

00:08:21.800 about it on the internet. And the longer I was in the industry, the more I really saw that Myron

00:08:27.760 was actually a good guy. And he was actually one of the few people that was like being honest in

00:08:31.760 this industry. And I felt really guilty that I like put that on the internet. And I said some

00:08:39.060 not so nice things about him. And it took me so long to rebuild. We're actually cool now, but it

00:08:45.040 took me so long to rebuild that bridge rightfully so right i went in like talk crap on the internet

00:08:50.560 about him but it actually was a real life example of my dad's um lesson to me when i was younger he

00:08:57.880 always told me to never burn a bridge because you just never know where people are going to be

00:09:01.840 um and you never want to completely like burn that bridge

00:09:06.860 and that that was just an example where i learned that lesson and the the challenge is i'm actually

00:09:14.380 not for, um, telling, sometimes you have to learn lessons the hard way in life. I know a lot of

00:09:20.480 people want to like not make mistakes and that's actually going to go into my next thing that I

00:09:25.980 learned as women do. Yeah. We'll learn the hard way. Um, but you know, just being honest, this,

00:09:36.560 this lesson in life, and this has been true. My dad told me a story of this person that screwed

00:09:41.640 him over and i'm not going to put a dollar amount and the amount of money this person i guess stole

00:09:45.640 from him or took from him whatever but it was a lot i'll say this my dad worked with somebody that

00:09:50.520 completely screwed him over and he said that in that case he did not scream he did not yell he 0.76

00:09:56.920 didn't crash out he just moved on and this person ends up my dad tells me the story of this person

00:10:03.720 comes back and ends up helping him when he was in a situation where we almost lost our house

00:10:09.960 um he made like a bad financial decision at the time it was like 2007 bought some real estate

00:10:16.600 crap you know our life savings was in that and this person that completely screwed him over in

00:10:21.480 the past come but comes back and actually decides to be a good person a lot of times people know 0.99

00:10:27.080 they screw you over you don't have to you know people feel there are shitty people in the world

00:10:33.640 that just don't feel guilt but eventually if you just are good to people and nice to them

00:10:39.240 they do come back around in all honesty if you just you know do the high road whatever

00:10:47.000 and that's really that's like what i learned is you really shouldn't burn bridges

00:10:50.520 um because eventually there's just not not much upside

00:10:57.320 so the next lesson and this is another lesson i learned in life

00:11:00.680 um as women we are prone to getting very frustrated and angry men are prone their

00:11:12.520 mindset is just to solve problems and what i've learned is that if you ever are upset about

00:11:21.200 something you really have to ask yourself why you're upset and usually when you're upset it's

00:11:27.320 because you're frustrated, you don't know how to do something. And one thing my dad taught me

00:11:33.240 is to always just ask yourself, what is the next step? Whatever you're mad about, what is the next

00:11:40.200 step? You're fighting with your wife. Okay, what's the next step? Are you going to divorce or no?

00:11:44.460 Are you going to do therapy? What is the next step? I think that's why men are so frustrated

00:11:48.020 with women is a lot of times it's very difficult to find those next steps. There's a lot of 1.00

00:11:53.280 channels that do have next steps for you that are very analytical and step-by-step of what you do

00:12:00.640 you're mad because something's not working okay if you don't know how to do it who does know how

00:12:04.800 to do it and it just you know when you think about something and what in terms of what is

00:12:09.760 the next step it makes you very analytical and less emotional as women we are prone to getting emotional

00:12:16.000 so um i would say as women like that is a way that that mental model really helps me you know 1.00

00:12:27.480 if i get frustrated at work my question is well what is the next step and when i break things

00:12:33.240 down and i have a list of step one do this step two do this it takes the emotion out of it you

00:12:39.520 know. The next thing that I learned in life, and I'll stop boring you guys unless you really like

00:12:46.980 these, but I'll get to the topic. But, you know, I'm just, I'm just starting to feel a little

00:12:52.220 sentimental. You guys have been here for like five years. You know, you've seen me grow up on the

00:12:56.820 internet. The next thing I learned in life is there are some causes that are just not worth

00:13:03.520 getting on. A lot of people want to get you on their cause and they're going to waste your time

00:13:12.540 and your money. I see a lot of conservatives expect nothing to change. And if it does be happy

00:13:23.920 with it, you know, when I was in my early twenties, I really thought that the conservatives were going

00:13:27.840 to win the culture war and I've only seen them lose. I've only seen it get worse. And, you know,

00:13:33.140 just for your mental sanity, I would say to just expect nothing to get better. And it really does

00:13:41.660 something with your mindset because when you don't expect the world to change, you figure out

00:13:45.860 how to navigate it. Okay. Your options for wives are whores. Well, where can we find the least 1.00

00:13:51.200 whorey women? Okay. They'd be living in these areas. They'd be doing these things. And you 1.00

00:13:55.220 start to do a process of elimination. But if you expect things to get better, you're just going to

00:14:01.080 be waiting on hope the rest of your life. You know, you're just going to be like waiting for

00:14:09.540 things to change. You know, I got to operate in the current market. And a lot of people, like

00:14:13.780 imagine, and my dad was a businessman, right? So imagine a business guy is making a decision.

00:14:22.380 He's not going to make a decision based on what might happen in the future. He's going to make

00:14:26.820 a decision based on the, what we have now, not the history from a hundred years ago.

00:14:38.000 And that's really, as a person, like there, there's no point in getting involved in a lot

00:14:43.020 of movements because most won't change. Imagine if you were in the seventies fighting against

00:14:46.860 abortion, you would be going nuts. You know, if you actually expected it to change, we can hope 1.00

00:14:52.220 and we can try our best, but I always go in with the expectation that nothing's going to change

00:14:56.660 everything's going to stay the same now. Anyways, when I was younger, I did not.

00:15:02.960 Okay. So those are three lessons. If you guys like that segment, let me know and I will do it

00:15:09.280 again. Maybe I've thought about making a couple. Oh, the other thing is on expenses, you always

00:15:17.040 have to know what's going out and why. And it's better to learn or at least observe how to do

00:15:23.300 everything yourself so you don't get taken advantage of okay daily wire

00:15:36.660 oh hold on where is it called oh no friendly fire

00:15:46.340 you will we're like 30 minutes in i want to say okay i'm gonna pull this up

00:15:53.300 Okay.

00:16:01.420 Okay.

00:16:04.500 Steve Vance's point is, no, I'm not going to play that game with you.

00:16:07.540 I'm not going to give you what you want.

00:16:09.380 Instead, I'm going to redirect the conversation back to the thing that you're trying to distract us from.

00:16:12.820 And I think that that's exactly the right move.

00:16:16.300 I think there's some disagreement about that, though.

00:16:18.320 There's more to be said about it.

00:16:19.500 But I'm going to go first to the guy who I think is most likely to agree with me, and that is Michael.

00:16:26.320 Michael.

00:16:28.380 Well, you're right, Matt. I totally agree.

00:16:30.100 Was it the swastik on his forehead?

00:16:31.900 Yes, hey, listen, we're Italian. Mussolini, he was a complex figure.

00:16:37.060 My only take on this that probably has not been said elsewhere is even the fact that we're talking about the ideology of the far right

00:16:46.780 and comparing the far right to the far left

00:16:48.480 and, you know, whether or not people like Hitler or whatever

00:16:50.680 is actually kind of missing out of that comment.

00:16:52.980 A little further back.

00:16:56.600 I just want to congratulate you for surviving with Michael Knowles.

00:17:01.400 Behind this, it's to overturn Western civilization.

00:17:04.740 The lot in was getting very antsy.

00:17:06.980 10th anniversary guys big fans love what you guys have been up to and uh congratulations

00:17:19.820 on all your success look forward to seeing more from all of your top talent all the amazing

00:17:26.000 content you've produced and uh wish you the best of luck for the next 10 years 10 years it's your

00:17:31.280 10-year anniversary where did the time go i looked up online what you get somebody for their

00:17:36.100 Yeah. And, um, 10 year anniversary. I think that's why I have a particular hatred in my

00:17:42.420 heart for the daily wire is because when I was an early adopter, they just sold me this

00:17:47.300 dream of stuff that was never going to happen. And I don't, you know, I don't like being

00:17:54.000 lied to. I didn't like that feeling, you know, 10 year anniversary and the modern, I don't

00:17:58.420 hate them, but I just, you know, gift is diamonds. So that's out. Uh, the more traditional gift

00:18:04.740 is either tin or aluminum so i'm between sending you a pack of altoids or a dr fauci vaccine which

00:18:13.300 is laden with aluminum just ask rfkj i think given the options you're getting yourself a

00:18:19.380 pack of altoids and what i mean by sending it is i love you here's to 10 more here's to 10 years of

00:18:26.340 standing firm to 10 years of pushing boundaries to 10 years of restoring integrity in media okay

00:18:34.740 You've made it. Congratulations. I can't wait to see what you do in the next decade.

00:18:44.480 That was nice. OK, that was nice.

00:18:46.500 Does anybody even wanted to sneak up in back of Tim and just take that hat off and see if his brain is just naked?

00:18:53.320 One of my favorite memories, honestly, like first 10 years of Daily Wire was Jeremy Boring's 40th birthday party,

00:18:58.820 where I got Ted Cruz to come to Jeremy's 40th birthday party.

00:19:02.240 and then ted proceeded conversation of some young republicans here and the young republicans are

00:19:08.860 not elected officials they're not any anyone that anyone's even heard of for the most part

00:19:14.780 there's one person in the group chat apparently who works in the trump administration who who is

00:19:19.540 not recorded having said anything so he's let me go back to hold on serious matt you talk about

00:19:27.080 something serious all right here we go here we go i'm so sorry guys now we're ready far too much

00:19:31.580 small far too much friendly small talk so far in this time of fire we got we got a lot of the

00:19:35.580 friendly but not a lot of fire yeah so uh okay so let's let's get into i've been strictly instructed

00:19:41.380 that the intros to these topics are supposed to be two minutes but uh my my primary and most

00:19:47.180 reliable strategy in any debate is just to talk and not let anyone else it's my only that's my

00:19:52.580 It's my only move.

00:19:54.500 So Politico, let's talk about Politico.

00:19:57.880 This is one of the big stories happening right now.

00:20:00.480 And for anyone who's not familiar,

00:20:01.660 Politico published a couple days ago this big hit piece

00:20:04.860 revealing the private group chat conversation

00:20:08.460 of some young Republicans.

00:20:10.900 And the young Republicans are not elected officials.

00:20:13.960 They're not anyone that anyone's even heard of

00:20:17.700 for the most part.

00:20:18.560 There's one person in the group chat,

00:20:20.180 apparently, who works in the Trump administration

00:20:21.800 who who is not recorded having said anything so he's he was in it but as far as we know

00:20:28.060 he didn't say anything quote-unquote offensive um but there were other comments made in the group

00:20:33.540 chat as politico uh reveals uh that were a lot of edgy jokes and a lot of um a lot of a lot of

00:20:43.780 offensive language that's being used in the in this group chat. And most of it, as Politico

00:20:51.320 finally admits in the article, if you read all 57 paragraphs of it, they'll finally admit that,

00:20:56.760 yeah, most of this is supposed to supposed to be a joke, although they don't, of course,

00:21:00.420 put that in the in the headline. And, you know, that the title of the article has the quotes,

00:21:06.100 I love Hitler. And when you look at the context of that comment in the group, in the group chat, 0.96

00:21:13.780 it's very obvious that it is a joke it's sarcasm uh very much in line with the kind of sarcasm

00:21:19.220 republicans use all the time about yeah i'm real far right i guess i love hitler uh you know along

00:21:24.420 the lines of me having theocratic fascist in my twitter bio which isn't entirely a joke but it's

00:21:30.420 mostly a joke um so this is kind of this this kind of breaks down a few different ways and

00:21:37.460 And for me, the story here is not the group chat, because these are private messages between people that no one knows.

00:21:47.280 These are not relevant people. And the only reason why the media is showing us is the only reason why they're doing this is obviously it's a political hit.

00:21:57.060 And in particular, they're trying to distract from the fact that the left has spent the last month, I mean, really much longer than that, but especially the last month, openly celebrating political violence.

00:22:07.840 And now we have a attorney general candidate is probably the next attorney general of Virginia, who was was was in his own messages saying not as a joke that he wants his political opponents to die and even their children to die.

00:22:21.020 And he was very specific that he was not joking about it.

00:22:23.900 And so the left is looking to distract from that.

00:22:26.040 And their way of doing it is by somehow obtaining these messages and putting them out to distract us.

00:22:34.240 And, you know, some republicans...

00:22:36.460 So we're at an interesting point in society because it's very hard to function socially without having technology.

00:22:44.380 I know there's this conservative right-wing thing where they just say, you know, unplug, move to the country, whatever.

00:22:50.600 they're not even doing that nobody wants to do that everybody likes the cities

00:22:54.920 um nobody wants to live in the middle of nowhere okay it's not really feasible nowadays like you're

00:23:01.800 not really gonna have a social life if you're out in the country it's not important to some people

00:23:06.520 right but young people it it is i would say you can't really date in the country not the same way

00:23:12.080 can in the city um or at least the suburbs of a big city so anyways um matt

00:23:20.960 i think that private conversations should be off limits to leak because you never really know the

00:23:27.120 context of it i wonder if there will ever be laws about leaking private conversations i wonder if

00:23:32.720 that is actually a law gins uh have been very quick to offer their denunciations to say how

00:23:39.520 offended they are how horrible these messages are that everybody involved should be fired that they

00:23:45.040 should never be allowed in politics again um i i think that that response is foolish i think it

00:23:53.200 gives the left exactly what they want i've i have really appreciated jd vance's response now i think

00:23:59.920 i think the vice president has struck exactly the right chord on this uh because he's not going to

00:24:05.760 to play the game. And instead, what he's done is he's he has redirected the conversation back to

00:24:11.260 the thing that the left is trying to distract us from. There's only there's one reason and one

00:24:16.280 reason only that this story exists. And it's to get us to stop talking about Jay Jones and the

00:24:22.660 leftist who've been celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk for the last month. That's the only

00:24:25.820 reason that the story exists. And so J.D. Vance's point is, no, I'm not going to play that game with

00:24:30.380 you. I'm not going to give you what you want. Instead, I'm going to redirect conversation back

00:24:34.040 the thing that you're trying to distract us from. And I think that that's exactly, exactly the right

00:24:38.520 move. Uh, I think there's some disagreement about that though. There's more to be said about it,

00:24:42.580 but I'm going to go first to the guy who I think is most likely to agree with me. And that is

00:24:48.780 Michael, Michael. Well, you're right, Matt. I totally agree. Yeah. Cause they're the Jewish 1.00

00:24:54.600 ones. So they can't, I don't understand. Um, I guess I can't really say that, but

00:24:58.940 that group seems to be very easily offended

00:25:05.900 it just seems like white people is the only group that's not easily white people in hispanics seem

00:25:11.420 to be the only group that's not easily offended the jays i can't i can't even say their name 0.86

00:25:18.220 because they get offended so easily black people you guys don't have any institutional power so haha 0.84

00:25:24.620 uh sorry haha but and asians you know what i don't you know what no but the asians will get 1.00

00:25:35.680 you for cultural appropriation like we can't even wear kimonos anymore i really think it's just white

00:25:41.300 people and latinos latinos don't care if you wear like a bachata hat or whatever those are called

00:25:46.280 is it the swastik on his forehead yes hey listen we're italian mussolini he was a complex figure

00:25:52.640 uh the my my only take on this that probably has not been said elsewhere is even the fact that

00:26:00.960 we're talking about the ideology of the far right and comparing the far right to the far left and

00:26:05.800 you know whether or not people like hitler or whatever is actually kind of missing the point

00:26:09.160 i strongly suspect these messages were leaked by another young republican that has been reported

00:26:14.740 and having spent a lot of time with new york young republicans i promise you this whole thing is

00:26:20.340 about some like petty personal grudge and it's some power play within new york politics and it

00:26:25.060 actually has very little to do with the ideology or putative ideology of of these texts but i i

00:26:30.320 totally agree there is there is no comparison whatsoever between some 19 year old kid who's

00:26:36.320 making edgy jokes trying to out based his friend in a group chat and a former state legislator

00:26:41.460 would be top law enforcement official in virginia saying as you note matt that he is not joking when

00:26:47.080 calls for the death of his opponents and even the death of their children. So yes, not at all.

00:26:52.480 Now the question then becomes, should we ever police our own? Should we ever have guardrails

00:26:57.580 or do we say anyone to the right of Hillary is on our side? And I think the answer is obviously

00:27:02.020 yes, there have to be guardrails. Just like a nation is circumscribed by its border,

00:27:06.460 so too a political coalition is circumscribed. That's what delineates it as a specific coalition.

00:27:12.040 But the question is, how are we going to arrive at those guardrails? Are we going to say

00:27:16.000 that anyone who ever, you know, gets caught telling an off-color joke by Politico,

00:27:21.460 they're completely cast into the outer darkness?

00:27:23.520 No, I don't think that's right.

00:27:24.740 I think we should have guardrails.

00:27:26.220 We should police a coalition.

00:27:27.640 And the way we should do it is very carefully.

00:27:30.360 This was Scalia's answer when, as a student, we asked him,

00:27:33.880 hey, you know, where do you draw the limits on the Second Amendment?

00:27:36.880 Where do you draw the limits on stare decisis?

00:27:38.780 And everyone wanted a really ideological answer.

00:27:41.200 And his answer was very carefully.

00:27:44.060 We kind of know.

00:27:44.680 We're prudent.

00:27:45.160 It's a people business.

00:27:46.000 And should these kids have their lives ruined

00:27:47.740 because they were mouthing off and telling jokes in a group chat?

00:27:50.660 No, I don't think so.

00:27:52.240 Brett Cooper is just a clone version of Ben Shapiro,

00:27:55.680 Change My Mind.

00:27:56.660 It's true.

00:27:57.500 But we're not prudent.

00:27:59.040 And she's still crashed out.

00:28:00.380 It's like the ungratefulness of women. 1.00

00:28:02.720 That was my final straw for Brett,

00:28:05.240 was when she laughed and created this whole drama on her way out. 0.99

00:28:08.500 She did not have to do that. 0.98

00:28:10.200 What an ungrateful brat. 1.00

00:28:12.680 That was my opinion on it. 0.84

00:28:15.500 So, I mean, here's the thing, we're just not.

00:28:17.860 I mean, so I would agree with you that, quote unquote, policing, you need to be prudent about how you police.

00:28:24.200 I also think that everyone agrees, I would assume Matt included, and Matt, you told me if I'm wrong here, that, you know, there are certain things that can be said that social consequences should actually attend to.

00:28:38.420 So certainly that's true on the left. Right. If you say that you want to murder the speaker of the House and then calls the kids fascist, there should be social consequences that actually attend to that.

00:28:47.660 I agree with everything you say about the difference between a private group chat between a bunch of young Republican idiots who are who are outbasing each other and the attorney general candidate in Virginia actually saying the thing running for office. 0.99

00:29:00.540 Now, I will say, I don't think these people are kids. 0.99

00:29:02.840 I don't think 31-year-old's a kid.

00:29:04.260 I don't like using the sort of language of kids

00:29:06.060 to describe people who really should be married

00:29:07.860 and have children of their own.

00:29:09.400 Yeah, that's a virtue signal.

00:29:12.020 You're not a real man unless you have kids in a family. 0.91

00:29:17.500 If you cared about your family so much,

00:29:19.260 why do you use them to build your reputation?

00:29:22.240 Why don't you just be a good person on your own?

00:29:24.400 Why do you need your family to make you a good person?

00:29:28.020 By this point in their life,

00:29:29.740 And I think the kind of loose playing with with that term, as though if you're a 31 year old, which is what one of these people was, that somehow this is the equivalent of being 17.

00:29:37.820 I don't think that's true either. Why are you down to 22?

00:29:40.500 I mean, I agree. But some of the people who are being quoted here in their 30s, some are up all the way up to 40.

00:29:44.440 I get it. I get it. Again, I'm not even disagreeing with the motivations of the Politico story.

00:29:48.740 In fact, even on my show today, I talked about the motivations of the Politico story, which, Matt, I agree, are completely scurrilous and designed to distract from the sort of violent rhetoric we've seen from the left.

00:29:58.280 But it has led to, I think, a reactionary response on some parts of the right to say there should be no policing ever at all.

00:30:05.160 No social consequences should ever attend to things that are said on the right.

00:30:09.600 That it's basically just pure my side versus your side.

00:30:12.540 The problem I have is, number one, I think that's moral.

00:30:14.740 And number two, I don't think that's pragmatic.

00:30:16.300 I don't think that's moral because I think that there are things that get said on the right that are really, really, really ugly.

00:30:21.320 And pretending those away doesn't make them go away.

00:30:23.480 I think that they're rising.

00:30:24.740 I think that they're getting more common.

00:30:26.360 I know that my death threats from that side are getting more common.

00:30:28.700 I know I have more security because of that, and it's not just from the left.

00:30:31.340 I have lots of security from the left, and I also get lots of security from the right.

00:30:34.980 Matt, I think a little bit earlier today you tweeted that kind of your litmus test is the people who are trying to kill you, and I totally get that.

00:30:41.380 I also have that litmus test.

00:30:42.680 The difference is that I think that if somebody tries to kill Matt, there's a good shot that it's going to be a leftist. 0.97

00:30:47.900 If somebody tries to kill me, it's a freaking Agatha Christie novel. 0.89

00:30:51.700 I just don't know which direction the bullet is coming from at this point, given the sort of various and sundry radical extremes that exist.

00:30:59.060 I'm not going to say that the right is equivalent to the left in this respect, because I don't think it's been mainstream to nearly the same effect on the right.

00:31:04.720 I think he's trying to say groipers are trying to get him.

00:31:08.440 I have not found the groipers to be violent. 1.00

00:31:12.760 It has been on the left, but to pretend that it has not infiltrated a lot of very important spaces, I think is sort of whistling past the graveyard.

00:31:18.840 Now, again, that's not about the Politico story.

00:31:20.280 There's more of a broad commentary about where we are in the movement.

00:31:24.060 And as a matter of sort of morality, we all have things where, again, I'm not saying cast into the outer darkness.

00:31:30.880 I'm not calling for any of these people who I think everyone knows who I'm referring to.

00:31:34.960 But I don't think I'm calling for any of these people to be deplatformed or removed from YouTube or removed from Twitter.

00:31:38.840 In fact, I've called for many of these people, Nick Fuentes, for example, to actually be returned to Twitter,

00:31:43.240 despite the fact that we have some pretty significant disagreements,

00:31:46.080 including the fact that he thinks that I and people like me are scurrilous sons of Satan

00:31:52.440 or whatever, however he would put it.

00:31:54.100 But that is a different thing from, is this person part of-

00:31:58.520 I know, but Ben, I think you're miscategorizing people's disagreement to you.

00:32:06.220 They don't disagree with you or hate you because they think you're a son of Satan or whatever.

00:32:11.440 I'm sure there's some of that, but people feel as though Ben is loyal to Israel and not loyal

00:32:16.720 to the United States. That he wants Israel's best interest and not the United States best interest.

00:32:23.200 I would say that's people's main problem with that. I just think he's miscategorizing,

00:32:30.900 quote unquote, the movement that I belong to. And the answer there is he doesn't think I'm part of

00:32:34.380 the movement that he belongs to, which he's made very clear. And so that gets into the question

00:32:38.800 of there's the morality of when someone says something bad should you condemn it and i think

00:32:44.120 that as a general matter you can do what winsome sears did right winsome sears is running against

00:32:48.140 the attorney general candidate in virginia she was asked about the politico chat she said yeah

00:32:52.000 that's bad now you do jay jones which seems to me like a pretty good answer and a good way of

00:32:56.680 policing and then when it comes to the pragmatic can i just find you were in the group chat yeah

00:33:01.700 i mean one more point on the i just want to make one more point here and then you can say whatever

00:33:05.540 on. On the pragmatic side, I fundamentally disagree with this idea that the reason that

00:33:10.240 the right quote unquote loses is because we fragment while the left is unified. The left

00:33:13.900 is losing because it unified around its crazies. Do not unify around your crazies. Sure, the crazies 1.00

00:33:19.980 can vote for you. They can vote for your party. You can't stop them from doing that. It's a free 0.93

00:33:23.240 country. But that doesn't mean they should have like a decisive. I think that people should think

00:33:27.360 for themselves. I am really not in the camp of everyone going into this group and having this

00:33:33.880 movement. And like, I just think it's unrealistic. I think people have to think for themselves.

00:33:39.200 When you join a group, the challenge you get is that then you have to adopt the opinions of that

00:33:44.360 group. And then if you infight too much, it's, oh, well, you're not going along with the group.

00:33:49.860 Well, I don't know. When has it ever been a good thing to go along with the group? I think you

00:33:54.260 should think for yourself. Voice in the future of the movement, because if you do that, you end up

00:33:59.820 with the trans movement running the Democratic Party and you lose from here to forever. It's 0.91

00:34:03.220 the democratic solidarity that's destroying them not the democrats as as a sort of fragmentary

00:34:07.940 let me let me let me go to just a second i just want to respond to two things there and the first

00:34:12.860 is and i've heard this argument that well the left is losing because they uh they failed to

00:34:19.480 drive out the radical elements of their party i just i i think there's a i think there's a false

00:34:24.240 premise there though i i don't think that's actually happening i think you know mom donnie

00:34:28.700 one of the most radical political figures we've ever seen in this country is about to be the mayor

00:34:32.440 of our largest city because there are no republicans or moderates in new york man i mean trump's been

00:34:36.220 president twice and it was the trans issue that killed kamala harris in the last election because 1.00

00:34:39.900 they won't stop doing the trans issue which is the most okay i'm curious so what are the major

00:34:47.040 cities in america if we're gonna say are the republicans winning what are the five biggest

00:34:51.940 cities in america um okay la democrat new new york democrat chicago democrat houston and phoenix

00:35:05.260 i don't know if those are houston has a democrat or republican mayor i didn't know phoenix was

00:35:15.180 that big actually i did not know that was that big uh democrat has houston phoenix is

00:35:24.300 um democrat yeah literally five democrats this is what i mean when thinking for ourselves

00:35:35.360 dream elements of the party including obviously you know what happened to charlie yeah uh yeah

00:35:42.440 And the trans issue was was it was a big problem for that. But that's also that's another thing, too, is that when we talk about the sort of the, quote unquote, radical elements of the right versus the radical elements of the left, these are not exactly the same thing.

00:35:56.240 The radical element of the left denies basic biological reality. I mean, you're you're you're you're militating against, you know, these these basic realities that we all understand.

00:36:07.200 and that that's not that's not happening on the right there there's no equivalent of that of

00:36:11.720 someone saying that men can have babies like that's there's just no there's no exact equivalent of

00:36:16.780 that but the second point on the politico oh ben does not like this what do the comments say

00:36:22.060 ben's giving matt the same look he gave charlie

00:36:25.460 left the group chat get back to work matt why does walsh look like he was kidnapped no

00:36:34.680 article itself okay obviously if somebody says something publicly and they've decided to announce

00:36:43.080 it to the world well then that's fair game for anyone to disagree and anyone to say anything

00:36:46.820 they want about it but with that in particular i i think that in almost every case if you are

00:36:53.780 speaking in private you're having a private conversation and then somebody with obviously

00:36:59.380 sinister intentions comes along and takes that private conversation and makes it public in

00:37:05.060 almost every case my position is and this has always been my position i don't care i'm not even

00:37:09.420 paying attention to it okay i i am not going to uh dignify that i'm not going to go along with i'm

00:37:14.960 not going to give you what you want i'm not going to reward yeah i i agree with matt there i think

00:37:20.260 that's actually a really good take um you're never going to know the context you're never

00:37:25.480 going to know the relationship that people had. Yeah. So when you leak private tax, you just got

00:37:33.140 to be careful. Ford that strategy. And by the way, part of that's, that's a principled stand on my

00:37:38.260 part. It's also, it's like a self-preservation thing. I don't want, I don't want people doing

00:37:42.540 that to me. I don't want people going through and revealing my private conversations, not because

00:37:46.580 I'm saying those kinds of things, but because these are private conversations. Now there are

00:37:49.940 exceptions to that. One exception is if you're running for political office and you want to be

00:37:54.220 the top law enforcement official in a state and you've said privately that you think that you know

00:38:00.140 half of your state should die well that's one of those exceptions i think probably in general if

00:38:04.900 you're running for political office that's an exception there are things that become fair game

00:38:09.000 that otherwise wouldn't be but but outside of those exceptions um i just i just i just fundamentally

00:38:16.820 disagree with

00:38:24.220 the idea that we should give these people anything that they want or that we need to

00:38:32.240 start now condemning things that were said in private in conversations that had nothing to do

00:38:37.420 with us we weren't involved we don't have the context uh they were not intended for any of us

00:38:42.640 to even see in the first place and uh should should we police that so i would say no i want

00:38:49.500 to say this. First, I agree with everything that Matt is saying in its context, in the context that

00:38:55.100 we're talking about. I don't see why I should care about these people on a private chat. I don't

00:38:59.380 think private chats should be revealed. And when the New York Times is spewing out perversion and

00:39:05.280 racism at a level that is far, far beyond anything these people are saying and incitements to 0.99

00:39:11.300 violence, I don't see why a private chat compares to the New York Times and the crap that they turn 0.99

00:39:16.300 out every day. I also agree with Ben that nobody should be censored. I don't want to censor absolutely 0.96

00:39:20.680 anybody. However, let me say this. When J.D. Vance comes out and he condemns these people,

00:39:25.940 and J.D. Vance is one of my favorite people in the administration. He was my choice for

00:39:29.620 vice president before Trump picked him. I think he's doing a spectacular job. He would have a lot

00:39:34.420 more authority if he would stop hanging out with Tucker Carlson. I guess it depends on what you

00:39:38.560 i hate that where if you associate with somebody that has a difference of opinion

00:39:53.000 now you're held responsible for their opinions

00:39:57.360 i mean by that exactly because if you if you disagree with things that tucker carlson says

00:40:05.160 then no one is saying that you can't disagree with them you can't make your disagreement known

00:40:10.360 you can't debate them whatever they like of course of course you could do that um i don't

00:40:15.340 agree with everything that tucker says i don't agree with everything that that anyone on the

00:40:19.560 right says now i do think it's a different category i mean yeah you you and i disagree

00:40:25.240 ben and i disagree we're all talking about the same world that's actually happening

00:40:28.560 you know to say that i think but well i guess i i think tucker is talking about the same

00:40:34.680 world i think he's got yeah i think he's got different views on the world than than you do

00:40:39.740 but if we're talking if we're talking about standing up and saying i disagree with that

00:40:44.520 strenuously here's why well then yeah absolutely if we're talking about um you know i know you said

00:40:52.120 you're not supporting censorship but if we're talking about sort of driving somebody out of

00:40:55.760 the movement uh alienating them saying you know that disowning them that sort of thing i absolutely

00:41:02.420 totally very much disagree with that disagree with doing that you might disagree oh because

00:41:08.420 that backs up when nick's so if you guys don't know ben's like arch nemesis or whatever this

00:41:15.680 guy that's been trying to debate him for like a decade um they have a difference of opinion on

00:41:20.020 geopolitical issues um ben's pro israel nick's um anti-israel fund i'm summarizing i don't follow

00:41:28.560 this stuff that closely so now having matt uh say that he disagrees with ostracizing someone for

00:41:37.000 having a difference in opinion it's gonna make ben mad because ben's done that to this guy nick

00:41:42.880 for like a decade and um it's been crazy because ben's just avoiding him and he's just getting

00:41:50.860 bigger and bigger and bigger and at some point ben's gonna have to face him i think if he wants

00:41:54.620 that continues political career.

00:41:57.140 So it's kind of a blow.

00:41:58.740 The same as saying a man can become a woman.

00:42:02.160 It's just crazy.

00:42:02.960 Well, hold on.

00:42:05.480 Let's take Tucker off the table there for a second,

00:42:07.220 because obviously Tucker is a very fraught topic

00:42:09.580 for a lot of people, myself included.

00:42:11.480 But I think that, you know, I guess the question for Matt

00:42:14.220 is there are certain people who you would basically say

00:42:16.040 don't belong in the movement.

00:42:17.500 And so the question I think for everybody,

00:42:19.140 and I think this is one that we should openly discuss,

00:42:21.100 I mean, if we're going to have these discussions,

00:42:22.160 is who doesn't, right? Like who doesn't? I'll give you a takeaway on this that is obviously

00:42:28.460 timely. When Charlie was killed, you know, the guy did like 10 jobs. I mean, it takes

00:42:34.620 innumerable people to fill all the things he did. The most valuable thing he did from a political

00:42:40.240 coalition standpoint is he kept the coalition together and his events were the events to go to

00:42:45.340 and his his plan i don't know

00:42:47.380 i wish i was more knowledgeable on the subject

00:42:54.000 but i'm just thinking out loud here did the events really help that much

00:43:00.280 like and who votes i guess maybe it gives you a more engaged base

00:43:04.180 uh pearl blows my mind she's the first woman i've ever heard explain how a man thinks what is it the

00:43:13.800 next step look i learned it from my father and the other thing too is i also learned sorry this

00:43:22.840 is going back to my original topic you got to disagree as much as possible and as women we

00:43:27.820 never want to disagree and we never want conflict um but i actually think you should

00:43:32.860 part of growing up is learning how to have difficult conversations and in my early 20s i

00:43:38.620 avoid this um it's very interesting because publicly i would be very okay with having these

00:43:44.380 conversations but privately it was still very difficult for me to confront people

00:43:49.420 or um you know i think it's something a lot of women do where we get angry about things 1.00

00:43:54.380 but we don't discuss it with the person or whatever you know whatever and i've actually

00:44:00.780 found that the more you talk about a disagreement other than in relationships don't do that but

00:44:05.740 because that's a different category but

00:44:09.740 then at least you get through it right and then you can look back and say i made a mistake in

00:44:17.740 how i handled that and i should have did it this way but then at least you learn and when i've

00:44:23.120 ever been i you know stunted in a category it's always been based in like fear where i'm afraid

00:44:28.740 to make the mistake but the people that get the furthest in my opinion they make mistakes and they

00:44:34.900 learn and then they figure out how to better do it in the future. I think this is applicable when

00:44:42.640 it comes to love. You can't be afraid as a woman to go on dates. You can't be afraid to move in

00:44:49.460 with somebody. You can't be afraid to get married. You know, it's better to do it and fail than to

00:44:53.600 not do it at all. And that's how I feel about life. And I think everything in my life that's

00:44:58.540 been delayed. It was always very fear-based. You know, afraid the guy won't call you back if you

00:45:05.280 hook up with him. Afraid the, you know, afraid to have a hard conversation with someone because

00:45:11.760 what if you lose the relationship? Afraid to confront somebody about something negative they

00:45:17.840 did to you. These are all things I really struggled with. And I found two strategies that

00:45:25.080 is help what is the next step in this is one and it's not something that comes natural to me it's

00:45:31.160 something i had to learn and two um and two identifying what you're actually upset about

00:45:37.000 as a woman but that that can be difficult sometimes um and three not to shy away from

00:45:44.480 the disagreement or whatever because at least if you have the disagreement you can look back

00:45:49.180 and you can figure out how to do it better in the future but it's better than letting it bubble or

00:45:54.060 whatever or maybe you have the disagreement and you realize you're crazy and you need to stop

00:45:58.240 talking you know but but at least you my point is at least you made the mistake at least you went

00:46:02.760 for it you know at least if you go and you um give it all you got trying to be with the guy you like

00:46:10.260 at least you know you went for it do you know what i mean it's like at least

00:46:15.500 going for a guy like trying to get married and have children or trying to date the guy that you

00:46:22.560 like is better than going back and thinking what if and ending up with the you know these super simps

00:46:34.880 um i did debate michael yeah i did debate him someone else asked if you want to support me

00:46:40.560 by the way go to the audacitynetwork.com um i just got a five thousand dollar bill for a lawsuit

00:46:47.200 today because some woman is mad five grand five grand i got a bill for today it's like 1.00

00:46:54.640 i'm trying to rebuild everything that these women ruined 1.00

00:47:01.760 my life and they're like let me just ruin it further it's the dumbest lawsuit ever 0.99

00:47:06.320 do you know it's so crazy i could win this lawsuit i think i'm gonna win 0.89

00:47:11.520 and i'm still gonna lose because i'm gonna be out like ten thousand dollars isn't that crazy

00:47:16.360 Isn't that insane?

00:47:17.700 It's just, anyways, if you want to donate $10 a month to help me fight these lawsuits, please.

00:47:23.380 Or go to the GoFundMe and donate to the divorce documentary.

00:47:29.340 That's why I'm going to get so tired.

00:47:31.500 That forum was really setting the agenda for the Republican Party.

00:47:34.800 And Charlie made a really important point to have a coalition in which he would not be pressured to get rid of Tucker.

00:47:41.380 but he also wouldn't be pressured to get rid of people who hated Tucker or who Tucker hated or

00:47:46.240 whoever, you know, where the various constituencies hated them. But Charlie, furthermore, to your

00:47:50.640 point, Ben, also drew a line. There were plenty of people that were not permitted into TPUSA events.

00:47:55.800 And so he did this in, I think, an obviously very effective way, a way that did not fall

00:48:00.980 into the perils of, you know, a- Counter super expenses and damages. I don't have the time.

00:48:06.220 yeah let me with all the stuff i have going on let me counter sue

00:48:13.120 just ignore the suit yeah right a movement becoming too extreme and i just wonder if

00:48:19.580 there's not a lesson that we could take from that i mean i think i think a good here's a good rule

00:48:23.200 of thumb about about charlie by the way how about this how about you probably don't belong in a

00:48:28.160 leadership position shall we say in the conservative movement if you won't just buy into the basic

00:48:33.560 factual idea that charlie kirk was murdered by a gay man who is a trans furry lover how about that

00:48:41.180 if you spend your days fulminating about all the other things with regard to charlie and and

00:48:47.120 speculate that he was murdered by other forces that seems to me not connected with reality

00:48:51.060 i mean that's something he hates can't so if you guys don't know the beef ben made the mistake of

00:48:56.180 hiring women and both of the women decided to crash out on him and be completely ungrateful

00:49:00.720 for his, um, opportunity that he gave him. Brett pretends she didn't do that, but I saw it. Brett,

00:49:09.520 you think I'll forget? I'll never forget. I'm a woman. I'm a woman. But Candace now is, um,

00:49:14.560 pushing all this Jay stuff and she completely crashed out on Ben, damaged his reputation.

00:49:22.620 Yeah. I like Ben as a person. I think he's a good person, but I do, I would argue he probably does

00:49:28.540 side more with israel but um yeah that's what erica's said that's something tp usa has said

00:49:36.120 like that that seems like that seems like a pretty good easy rule of thumb that if you

00:49:39.660 if you're if you're spending all your days doing that if you even if you even tangentially are

00:49:43.620 doing that seems if you're trying to divide them matt i thought that what you said when charlie

00:49:47.400 died was right you know that one of charlie's goals was to keep the movement together it's

00:49:50.820 obviously something shady is trying to do he's trying to keep people in the room together i

00:49:53.660 totally get it i've talked publicly about the fact that tucker called me that day two days

00:49:57.700 after Charlie was shot and said, like, let's stop. Let's stop fighting. And I said, you know

00:50:01.400 what? That sounds great to me. That's fine. I really don't want to be fighting with you

00:50:04.280 because obviously we have other priorities. In fact, I even offered Tucker that we should get

00:50:08.220 on stage together and talk about the things that we agreed with. He's got to take me up on that

00:50:11.380 offer. But the bottom line here is that when it comes to where you set limits, limits at some

00:50:17.320 point are going to have to be set. And it seems to me that the. But Candace was fired from her 1.00

00:50:21.880 job. Well, she wouldn't have had a job in the first place if it wasn't for them. Look, Candace

00:50:26.780 is not even qualified to talk about the war, in my opinion. I think she just kind of repeats what

00:50:34.000 Nick F says to some degree, which is fine. But look, if you're hired to do X and then you start

00:50:41.400 doing Y, you can't really be mad when you get fired. That's my opinion.

00:50:46.560 Move on the right is that because we don't like the left at all, because the left is bad,

00:50:50.640 there must be no limit set. And any attempt to set a limit is somehow firing inside the tent.

00:50:54.920 And what this actually leads to is many of the same people who are firing inside the tent, then turning around and claiming that you're violating the truce.

00:51:01.360 Because I'll tell you what, it's Nick Fuentes who's attacking Donald Trump on a regular basis.

00:51:06.080 It is Alex Jones who's attacking Donald Trump on a regular basis.

00:51:09.140 I mean, it is Tucker Carlson who's attacking Donald Trump.

00:51:11.480 Yeah, but why don't you guys just have a show and put them all together and argue and let the best ideas win?

00:51:18.360 Like, why do you got to gatekeep it?

00:51:20.020 If you disagree, do a show, debate.

00:51:22.500 It will get a ton of views, and it will clarify everyone's positions.

00:51:25.300 Debate.

00:51:27.220 It's sport, isn't it, to some degree?

00:51:29.660 On a fairly regular basis, actually.

00:51:31.620 And I think that the friendly fire should stop across the board,

00:51:36.860 and I've been very clear about that.

00:51:38.760 You mean the show.

00:51:39.400 There are just the show.

00:51:42.300 Because the two things.

00:51:45.360 And number one, yeah, just on your point, Ben, about who killed Charlie Kirk, I've been very

00:51:51.980 clear about it. This was clearly a leftist, this was leftist violence, and we should stay focused

00:51:56.800 on that. I think we're letting them off the hook when we try to blame anybody else other than the

00:52:02.120 left. This was a leftist violence for sure. Does that mean that anyone who feels differently

00:52:07.260 should be drummed out of the movement? No, I don't think so. And I also think that,

00:52:11.760 That, you know, it's like we're not even in a position to decide, well, who should be a leader, who should have a platform, who should be, you know, who should be getting attention in this movement.

00:52:18.680 It's like that's not up to us up to us to decide anyway.

00:52:21.520 Well, let me just say after Charlie died, a couple a couple of days after Charlie died, I put out a tweet where I said that I want to call a truce.

00:52:35.880 I can only do it on my end. I want to call a truce. I want to extend an olive branch to everybody on my side, everybody on the right.

00:52:41.580 Everybody to the right of Bill Maher, including him, not that I ever had really a beef with him, but I want to extend a truce because we are dealing with a threat.

00:52:53.980 Drew, you said it yourself. These are people like the political violence is on one side. This is on one side.

00:52:59.920 There is one side that engages in political violence. There is one side that rejects the basic realities of life.

00:53:06.720 there's one side that's responsible for murdering 60 million babies in this country okay there's it's 0.80

00:53:11.840 one side and so i think that for right now maybe we'll get back to the big arguments maybe we'll

00:53:16.480 get back to the infighting we'll get back to that in the future i'm sure i don't you can't control

00:53:20.880 men i mean you can only control what you do you can't control if people are going to infight um

00:53:29.360 it would be more fruitful discussion if i could really hear what they're going to do because the

00:53:35.680 But the way they're speaking, it's as if they have control of the whole movement, and I

00:53:39.920 don't believe they do.

00:53:41.220 I mean, Ben kind of has control over these four guys, but...

00:53:44.400 But for right now, I think we need to be unified against this threat, especially now, especially

00:53:49.200 with the midterms coming up and the presidential election right after that.

00:53:52.220 The left, if they get back into control, they're going to be out for blood even more than they

00:53:55.620 ever have.

00:53:55.980 I know.

00:53:56.920 God, I'm going to enjoy Trump's presidency.

00:54:00.300 I'm going to...

00:54:00.580 You better go to theaudacitynetwork.com because the next Democrats in power, I'm going to

00:54:05.000 to log off forever have been and so we need to be united against that together and that's what i said

00:54:10.280 when i said that a couple days after charlie's charlie's death you know the response i got almost

00:54:14.600 every single comment i got was was yes amen absolutely i'm with you almost every single

00:54:20.040 comment i said the exact same thing the exact same thing like two days ago and and it's completely

00:54:25.080 flipped now almost every single comment is how could you say this i can't unite with them there's

00:54:29.160 no way i can't do that and and it's just i haven't changed i'm still i'm what i'm saying is no

00:54:37.800 different than what i said a month ago i haven't changed i don't think the situation has changed

00:54:42.280 at all and and i don't know why everything else has flipped because i think because i think if

00:54:47.800 you take that to its full extent it's it's crazy it works it works within a context but surely

00:54:53.960 there is some kind of human decency level that you can cross where no you're not on my side i

00:54:59.720 mean i don't understand why if you support the you know the cat's paw of iran where they sit around

00:55:05.480 and chant death to america what makes you a conservative what makes you a conservative that

00:55:09.960 you you say tough sounding things i mean that you're talking to you know in a loud voice about

00:55:15.320 you know the problems of the country you know i don't know what makes you a conservative if you

00:55:19.160 i just i don't like all these labels and that sounds dumb but it's i i don't really care what

00:55:27.640 ben decides or what these people think is conservative it's like why don't you just

00:55:33.000 let people's actions and words speak for themselves let let their ideas let them say

00:55:37.720 their ideas and then if they're bad then you can criticize it or go back and forth

00:55:42.920 you know because then this is what they always try to do with red pillars they try to group us

00:55:47.400 together so they can use the worst members against us um and i don't have any control over who or who

00:55:55.300 they label red i don't even like really being labeled red pokes i'm not really an og red pillar

00:56:00.960 but um you know i it is what it is i cover this content so i can't really say that i'm not but

00:56:07.860 yeah of a regime that you know used to have until trump took it away the capacity to actually hurt

00:56:15.460 us you know i don't understand the anti-american i would say you're not i would say you're not on

00:56:20.540 our side you're not a conservative if you are not interested in conserving and preserving and

00:56:25.620 defending western civilization and and the i guess the the one point i'll i'll give in in you know

00:56:31.520 in your favor drew and ben is that because okay then you say like let's say they they talk about

00:56:37.060 me and i doubt they would right but they say pearl's not a real conservative and then i say okay

00:56:42.600 well i'm still gonna make an rq point x y and z so you know what i mean like going back and forth

00:56:49.480 about who's a real conservative who's allowed to be in our group it's just like it just sounds like

00:56:55.320 mean girls high school clicks you know i do think that there are some people who claim what does

00:57:01.480 that even mean i don't know commentators say things preserving western civilization how are

00:57:06.920 are you doing that? You're not like, you're just a commentator. Do you know what I mean? I just

00:57:12.600 think commentators just get these big egos where we think we're doing things, but we're just

00:57:16.580 commenting. We're just caught. We're just caught. It's just comment. It'd be conservatives who

00:57:22.220 actually are not interested. And that's why, do you know what guys? And this was a lesson I had

00:57:25.920 to learn these movements. I just want to waste your time, you know, donate, but don't expect

00:57:31.580 anything to change. It's kind of how I feel about it. You're going to waste your life waiting for

00:57:39.940 that tomorrow that's never going to come. And I'm telling you, you're going to waste your life. Rome

00:57:43.640 did not fall in a day. There may be change, but you're going to be old. Are you going to live

00:57:48.620 your whole life hoping for something that's not going to come? And, you know, that's how the red 1.00

00:57:54.600 pillars, like the actual core red pillars are. They're like, okay, this is the society to have.

00:57:59.400 I'm not going to make a, this isn't make a wish society where I can control these whores. 1.00

00:58:03.800 I can't. 0.97

00:58:04.960 So how do I move in the society we have today?

00:58:08.460 There's not going to be a theocracy.

00:58:10.280 There's not going to, and that type of thinking is just like, it's just not a good way to

00:58:15.520 think because it is not going to happen.

00:58:18.200 There would be a civil war before that happens.

00:58:21.880 It's fun to think about.

00:58:23.300 It's an interesting thought exercise, but it's the reason I tell my dad about some of

00:58:28.240 these right-wing, like, you know, ban this, ban that. That's why my dad said to give up on abortion. 0.97

00:58:32.760 My dad said, stop arguing about abortion because it's never going to change. 0.55

00:58:38.660 Um, I hope you're doing good today. Thank you. I am.

00:58:43.460 Didn't conserving Western civilization at all. And, uh, and so if you don't want to conserve

00:58:47.980 that, then like, we're just not, we're, we actually are fundamentally cause that.

00:58:50.840 Okay. So let's, let's, let's put it this way, Matt. Um, what does that mean? But let's,

00:58:56.300 let's take the abortion idea matt would say ban abortion right and i'd say well pragmatically

00:59:00.700 that's not going to happen however i do think we could make an agreement at three months with

00:59:05.020 the pro-life side or pro-choice side we could say three months we'll give you guys abortion 0.80

00:59:10.540 let's make a deal that's what i would say make a deal and then we can never argue about it again

00:59:14.620 and that's and that's like the mindset like when you have a business guy and they really want to

00:59:18.220 make a deal by the end of the month you know everything has to be timely when you really

00:59:23.660 want to get something changed you do it quick you're like how fast can we get this done right

00:59:28.940 now i have a list of like things i want to get done for this channel and every day i just look

00:59:34.540 at my list and i think how do i get this done how can i how can i finish this and it's just a very

00:59:40.220 different mindset than well we should have a theocracy and we should bring these women back 1.00

00:59:43.980 in the kitchen you know it's not going to happen what can we do today what can we do this month

00:59:50.540 and if you can't get it done this month it will likely not happen in her lifetime it could happen

00:59:56.300 but i'm not in the world of kids and i just i'm really trying to build a community of pragmatic

01:00:01.900 people that want solutions for today what if you told a young girl to not go on the dating apps 0.96

01:00:06.460 are you crazy men aren't gonna approach you nowadays if you're 18 get on freaking hinge 0.76

01:00:12.380 get on hinge go on a date a week that's more pragmatic that's the thing i'm saying we need 0.97

01:00:16.620 to unite to defend is western civilization and so if women have the option to opt out of motherhood

01:00:21.820 then why can't the father opt out as well i agree with you however however this is the society we

01:00:28.380 have you cannot opt out of fatherhood so what is the best plan in this society that we have

01:00:34.940 that's how you want to think that's the best way to think right even though that's true

01:00:40.620 right now there's no indication the laws are going to change anytime soon

01:00:43.660 so now you have to make a strategy based on the unfair laws

01:00:48.140 now a lot of people come back and they say pearl but pearl but pearl

01:00:51.900 um you're being a doomer i'm like well i'm being realistic

01:00:55.280 i'm being realistic you have to deal with the world we have you cannot wait on politicians

01:01:03.900 for the hope to live your life you can't your effects on the culture are cumulative well

01:01:11.140 they're not measurable and if i can't measure and show how i've affected the culture that would be

01:01:16.260 my that would be my push um what how did you affect the culture other than social media posts

01:01:21.460 um has the birth rate gone up has marriage gone up no none of these things have

01:01:29.700 civilization that has to mean something right that's right so so for example in in you know

01:01:37.380 Recently, I've been talking about the Islamic takeover of Dearborn, and I've had people who I guess claim to be conservatives who are trying to tell me that actually this is a very good thing, that our country becomes Islamic. 1.00

01:01:49.300 And it's like, okay, we're clearly not on the same side.

01:01:53.080 You said, Pearl, what should I do?

01:01:54.580 My wife hasn't slept with me in five years since COVID.

01:01:57.040 I've got four kids who all still need me.

01:01:58.760 Just keep living in a sexless marriage for the next six years. 0.99

01:02:02.060 so i'm not going to tell you what you think but this is how i would come up with a solution or

01:02:07.180 come up with a plan to figure out what you want to do um i've got four kids that need me do i just

01:02:14.700 keep living in a sexless marriage for the next four years i mean plan a would be to apply dread

01:02:20.940 um that would be a strategy you could use see if that works if that doesn't work that means

01:02:26.700 she never liked you there's um you could cheat you know that's option two

01:02:36.860 yet see men are so great they come up with solutions hit the gym hard improve your employment

01:02:43.020 status and i would make a list of every option you could possibly do go see a divorce lawyer 1.00

01:02:51.500 see if it's even possible, right? Could you win the custody battle? Can you move things

01:03:00.180 out of your, like into someone else's name? You know, again, that's how I would, I would never

01:03:10.800 give you a strategy or a plan. I've never gone through that. I can't, you know, I can't tell

01:03:14.980 you exactly what to do. But what I would do, if I don't know the answer, who knows the answer?

01:03:22.300 Do you know anybody in your state that's gone through a divorce and won?

01:03:28.480 So, again, that's how you want to think about it personally.

01:03:33.640 And then, as you're going through the process, because really, when you,

01:03:39.500 inability to make a decision is lack of information,

01:03:42.260 and you just have to figure out what information you lack.

01:03:47.340 One information you're going to want is, who are the judges in your area?

01:03:52.460 are they more liberal or conservative you know this this you're trying to conserve

01:03:57.820 islamism and that is not what i'm trying to conserve so um obviously you get to a point

01:04:02.140 where those were like yeah like lines are drawn and i think the line is that conserving and

01:04:08.460 defending western civilization and anyone anyone who's on board with that and wants to do that

01:04:13.580 um i'm i i think we should we should work together but if someone if someone says i'm not interested

01:04:19.980 i i don't want your olive branch screw you which i have gotten that response from a lot of people

01:04:24.380 well then that's your choice and we gotta i just i just don't want us to make you know i don't want

01:04:29.960 to make the decision on who's defending western civilization according to i'd just file who's me

01:04:34.680 i'm not not having sex for six years popularity i don't think you know this is i don't tell her

01:04:42.060 anything about the divorce until she's handed papers yeah what would it take to divorce those 1.00

01:04:48.320 are the questions you got to ask what are your chances you know this has all been very fun and

01:04:54.580 then when you have all that information then you can make a good decision right i mean truly truly

01:04:59.420 enjoyable but matt i need you to talk to us about how you sleep at night hold on i got a better

01:05:04.900 transition let me do the transition i got a better one i got a better one so hey you know we've been

01:05:09.960 talking about who it would be prudential for us to get in bed with politically now matt would you

01:05:15.900 tell us about how you get into bed

01:05:17.840 well that was a much better

01:05:19.900 transition. I don't know, I thought Ben was better to be honest 0.99

01:05:21.940 What? What are you, I worked

01:05:23.940 on that. That whole segment I was working on

01:05:25.700 You go to the Helix. That's very kind of

01:05:27.780 you, Ben.

01:05:29.460 To appreciate it. Remember during the deal

01:05:32.080 friends, long before Biden

01:05:33.760 inflation, long harder to extirpate

01:05:35.920 but in terms of these

01:05:37.740 the extreme version of these ideologies

01:05:39.840 it would seem as though they are

01:05:41.960 on the precipice of being

01:05:43.500 eradicated from public life entirely to help us understand this we bring on our gen z correspondent

01:05:50.460 and a new member of the daily wire family isabel brown hello isabel hey gang how's it going i'll

01:05:55.620 tell you waiting in the wings the last few minutes was quite entertaining

01:05:59.060 you know it's so crazy women bring such a we are so much less professional than men like all the 1.00

01:06:07.960 are like dressed up and you got like the hoodie anyways well i need to you think they would learn 0.98

01:06:19.160 from hiring these last women no is your generation not gay anymore it's like a video like i'm not gay 0.53

01:06:26.520 anymore is that is that happening and if so where are we going to get our interior designer tell

01:06:30.440 you people i have been trying to warn the world that gen z the kids were all right for a very

01:06:36.040 long time literally a year ago a little a year and a half ago i should say was laughed off set

01:06:40.840 at every tv network every radio station every podcast when i presented my book that it was gen 0.95

01:06:47.320 z that was going to save america that no one wanted to be a lame gay chick like disney wanted 0.99

01:06:53.560 us to be in south park so beautifully predicted uh the numbers of course needed some time to catch up 0.95

01:06:58.920 but i think the i only want one man on earth well i'm sure you're totally with the guy you lost your

01:07:05.000 virginity too did your actions match what you're saying kids are gonna be all right and none of

01:07:11.880 this information out of this new study shocks me the idea of the cultural yeah it's crazy she just 1.00

01:07:17.560 had a kid too does she want to raise it no they never do anyways guys um i think that's it i was

01:07:24.920 i just asked to react to this today so i was like what the hell might as well i filmed a bunch of

01:07:29.880 reactions when i'm gone so i'm not going to live show the next few days i would love to get you

01:07:35.160 guys's feedback um i am toying with the idea of doing pre-recorded content versus live i'm i'm

01:07:41.880 a little torn because i really enjoy interacting with you guys i love the chat but our numbers are

01:07:46.840 so much better on pre-record it seems like we may have to go that way so if you like the show go to

01:07:53.640 the audacitynetwork.com and it increases our ability to rely on that and then you know i'm

01:07:59.160 able to do more lives um uh we're gonna test some essay videos probably in the next two weeks i

01:08:06.920 might get some street interview we're gonna test a lot of content so we would love your feedback on

01:08:12.600 it um pre-record works better for me i like the i know it's a we're just gonna go off of the

01:08:20.200 numbers to be honest um maybe a mix yeah i know i know but anyways feel free to put if there's

01:08:30.200 content you really like about the channel or you really don't like uh please put it in the comments

01:08:35.160 we're really we're reading all of them we're listening so uh we're working with you guys

01:08:40.680 trying to make the best content i'm not doing the panels again i'm not maybe like once a month if

01:08:46.600 if someone else puts it on.

01:08:48.200 The overhead cost is too high.

01:08:50.440 I need a lot more people on the Audacity site

01:08:52.920 to have that high of overhead costs.

01:08:54.480 I can't do it again.

01:08:55.780 That's the challenge.

01:08:58.120 Anyways, guys, please like the video

01:08:59.980 and subscribe to the channel.

01:09:02.840 Appreciate you watching and I'll see you next time.

01:09:05.000 Bye-bye.

Pearl - October 23, 2025

The Daily Wire Is Part of Cancel Culture？

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