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- March 25, 2026
The Girls Who Stay Friends With Their Exes (They're In Love)
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Length
13 minutes
Words per Minute
208.78885
Word Count
2,922
Sentence Count
52
Misogynist Sentences
5
Hate Speech Sentences
1
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people cheat with exes and they're the best people to cheat with let's just keep it a buck here uh
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because they have the rapport of like years and they also have each other's secrets so they're
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not gonna out each other you know what up guys welcome to my reaction series today we are
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reacting to women talking about how they need to stay friends with their ex um i actually have
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mixed feelings on this um i mean in general not great but you know life is long and you never
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really know where people are gonna be so i don't think it's the end of the world to stay friendly
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with someone um especially if you're in the same like circles and stuff it's better than like a
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full crash out um i think i have the unpopular opinion i've just seen it where people become
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friends after and it's not weird um mostly out of necessity like they work together or something but
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i i do appreciate where there's like a sense of maturity with your ex it's a sign of emotional
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maturity. Two people who were once intimate and in love can absolutely evolve and transcend that
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relationship and just be friends. That's a sign of emotional maturity, right? And if your actual
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partner doesn't get it or gets mad, it's okay. Just understand that they're a little insecure
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and probably lack the emotional maturity to understand this dynamic. Let's rewind. Really?
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Okay, we got to discuss this for a second, okay? And again, I'm talking about the rule,
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not the exception so don't come at me the fact that you continue to have contact with your ex
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is not a sign of emotional maturity at all it's actually okay yeah how do i put it i don't think
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you should be talking right but i don't have too many women crash out at the end and it's just
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better to just be chill quite the opposite you simply don't want to lose your ex you don't want
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to remove them from your life i actually know someone he gets lunch with his ex-girlfriend
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of like 20 years ago every month i don't know there's certain personality types uh you guys
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are gonna crash out on me i know it i know all the comments are gonna go but there's certain
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personality types where they really could just let bygones be bygones and just move on but the
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problem is there's too many messy people that'll hook up with them forever so i don't know put
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your experiences in the comments girls can be friends with their ex and not hook up if it was
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a beta bucks relationship because she never really liked you to begin with you don't want to break the
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bond that you guys have still. You don't know how to close the book, right? Or go to another
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chapter. You're obviously showing that you still have deep attachment to your ex-partner and
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you have the nerve to say that it's emotional maturity. The fact of the matter is you haven't
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been mature enough to let go of your ex-partner yet. And that is precisely a sign of emotional
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immaturity guys get the out of here yeah i mean i wouldn't say you should be talking all the time
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but how do i put it i don't know i think sometimes people just let bygones be bygone like i've seen
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it in friend groups right where two people dated and they just kind of all moved on with that bs
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okay that is gaslighting 101 in reality it's not that you're a very mature person who managed to
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transform the bond of love into friendship no in reality you weren't able to close the door for good
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because the attachment is still there and the dependence on your ex-partner is still there
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all right we got this chick next talking about friends with that crazy but i think that sometimes
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you can and actually even maybe should stay friends with someone you dated after it doesn't
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work out romantically and i have the perfect example of this i'll tell you why because it
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could be a choice later right but you know it's like i had your bets like if this doesn't work
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out I have this backup you know um that's what a lot of women do you know um and maybe if you're
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single but I don't know if you get serious with someone you got to stop talking I'm gonna be
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honest I kind of has have hesitated to tell this story um and for obvious reasons you'll understand
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when I tell the story um but I think enough time has passed that it's okay for me to tell the story
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and it's also just too funny not to share so I was seeing this woman and like I said it didn't
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work out romantically but we trauma bonded so hard over an experience that I think we will be
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friends for the rest of our lives. So interesting fact about this woman, she actually shared a
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birthday with my grandmother. My grandmother passed away earlier this year. She was 103 years
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old. And unfortunately, my grandma passed away on their shared birthday. And I went home to see my
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family and spent some time grieving my grandmother. And I was at my parents' house going through some
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of my grandmother's things. And this gem of a human being agreed to come to my parents' house
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with me and be a buffer with my parents and talk to them while I looked through my grandma's photos
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and cried and spent some time grieving her. And so she was like talking to my parents, keeping
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them company so that I could just have some time alone. And I'm going through some of my grandma's
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things. And I opened my grandma's desk drawer, um, to see if there were any additional photos
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in there. And I open it up and there looks to be a personal massager. And I'm like, surely that's
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not what I think it is. My grandma was 103 years old. Also, this thing looks like it's like maybe
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50 years old. And I'm just like, surely that's not what this is. So naturally I had to call in
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some, uh, a second opinion. I had to know, like, is this what I think it is? So she comes into my
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grandma's room and I show her the personal massager. And she's like, yeah, no, that's
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exactly what you think it is. You're airing out your grandma online. Why are you speaking of the
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but then we were faced with another problem what do you do with it uh I'm gonna be honest my
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instinct was leave it there run away pretend we never saw anything it never happened but she made
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a really great point we cannot just leave this there for someone else to find it but I am not
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gonna throw that away I am not touching that so again this gem of a human being got some tissues
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and reached in there and threw it away for me and then after that we left my parents house and we
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went to lunch and we had a great waiter at lunch we told him all about it and when we left she
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wrote on the receipt uh when she signed her signature um good vibes only so yeah i do think
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that sometimes um okay uh how did i get roped into hearing about your grandma's vibrator at this
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you guys ever have that where you listen into a woman's story and then it gets so raunchy and
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you're like how did i i thought i was i thought we were talking about exes here like now i'm
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hearing about grandma 103 year old vibrator grit like all right get in relationships with people
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who stay friends with their exes unless people are co-parenting together that's like the one
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exception but even then there should be good boundaries it is a major sign of not only
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immaturity but also that person is keeping doors open with old flames what world yeah but we're
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all rentals here like men and women are just renting each other so i mean i think i gotta
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be honest the friends with the exes it's just pragmatic on both sides it's very pragmatic
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were you involved romantically with someone and now you're just friends you just want to be friends
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out of getting in a relationship with someone who stays friends with their exes talks to their exes
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goes and checks on their ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend's social media accounts they are still
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interested in that person they are still going to keep that door open in case that person is
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interested in giving them a chance again and some people will try to sell this to you like oh they're
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just so mature they can stay friends no no no they're gonna play you i'll never forget i was
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doing this continuing ed seminar for being an attorney yeah the one thing is though people
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cheat with exes and they're the best people to cheat with let's just keep it a buck here uh
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because they have the rapport of like years and they also have each other's secrets so they're
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They're not going to out each other, you know, so.
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And a divorce attorney said that one of the things that they see often in divorces is someone reaching out to their ex.
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I don't know.
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People have like attachments that are kind of like lifelong.
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Like I've heard of people being broken up for like 20 years and they reach out.
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Girlfriend or boyfriend from high school.
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Like people in their 30s, 40s, 50s are still going back to high school exes.
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Texas, don't trust someone that leaves doors open with an ex-girlfriend or an ex-boyfriend.
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I promise you, you will get played.
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All right, let's see what we got next.
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Rachel, she used to be hot.
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What happened?
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She's looking weird these days.
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People are going to kill me for this, but I still do wish on some level we could be friends.
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Yeah.
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Because he was my best friend.
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Try not to cry.
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We were friends before.
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are basically like going through divorces like because they'll be with someone for like three
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or four years they become so integrated in your life and then yeah or boyfriend and girlfriend
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sometimes like i would even look at him and be like are you like actually like in love with me
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like do you yeah see your my you know like i don't know for for me at times i was like it really does
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just seem like we're best friends yeah and i would love to maybe someday like not anytime soon don't
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worry guys there want to be cordial friends everyone yeah be able to say hi friendly friendly
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yeah i like that i feel like one of the big just weird because when you know someone on that level
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i don't know how you go to being it's almost like that person just knows you in like a different way
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you know questions right now is like are you in contact and we are not in contact i have not been
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texting him i have not been calling him don't worry but i and she's in love with that man
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she is in love with that man okay girl talk staying friends with your ex and your ex wants
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to be friends there are three reasons why this happens the first one is false comfort for
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himself if you did you really dirty and he wants to smash pretty much sometimes they say this
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because they want to ease their own guilt being friends makes them feel like they didn't really
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hurt you like it wasn't that bad please do not let somebody's guilty conscience keep you tied to them
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they don't even be feeling bad for you half the time they'd be feeling bad for themselves the
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second reason and honestly the most common reason is access can we be friends is code for can i
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i still have access to you can i still keep you close enough that i can check on you flirt with
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you make sure no one else has you without having to give you commitment or clarity that you deserve
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honestly it's control and on top of that if you are a good woman if you treated them so well it's
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really their loss so they want that access to you even if it's not y'all being official boyfriend
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no they just want to smash girlfriend like they don't want to lose you all together even though
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they're not willing to still hit do what it takes to keep you all together they don't want to lose
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you all together they want to hit and also hit other people you know they want to smash and
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smash others so they will find any reason to make it seem like we don't have to completely leave
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each other's lives but who is that doing more damage to you who's getting the better end of
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the stick out of that deal him that's not fair and the third reason goes into number two it's
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the illusion of hope sometimes they say can we still be friends to keep you from fully moving
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on as long as there's a thread keeping y'all connected there's hope and when there's hope
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especially if you love them it's harder for you to let them go you cannot just be friends with
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somebody who you love deeply like you can't i know it's hard and it would be so much easier not
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really but it would feel so much easier in the moment to be like okay we're not together but
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we'll always be in each other's lives cute now you never talk again okay next 90 of the time
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the only time i really see people be friends after is like if it's a beta bucks relationship
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where the girl really didn't like him like that then sometimes it can work i'm still friends with
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my ex and this is how. When we broke up it did not feel right to completely cut each other out
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of our lives. I think for most people that's probably really healthy to go no contact but for
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us it just didn't feel right with our intuition. In order to stay friends we had to firmly agree
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that we were not going to try to get back together. We went to therapy to help establish what our
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boundaries and expectations were for our friendship. For us that looked like facetiming
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about once a week and um being there for each other if we needed to be we agreed not to talk
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about going on dates with other people and only let each other know if we were going to be in a
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relationship with someone else we did talk about what went wrong in our relationship but we only
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did it in the sense of bringing up to each other what we did wrong so i did this how did that feel
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for you i wish that i did it better but we never pointed our finger and said you did this ma'am
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that's your husband just get back with him i mean once we stopped doing that things started to
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evolve in our friendship in the beginning there was a lot of crying and anger and resentment and
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we had to work through that um in our friendship and now we're just friends and it's good it took
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time but not having him in my life at all and him not having me in his life at all both felt wrong
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for both of us and um i'm confident that we'll be friends for life and like we're good with that and
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if one of us gets into another relationship it might suck at first i don't know i know is it
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crazy that i wouldn't really care if a guy was friends with his ex is that crazy that i wouldn't
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care i just feel like you know it didn't work for a reason she probably just needs her tv hung or
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something i hurt a little bit it might sting a little bit but we know that we're not right for
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each other anymore so it feels right it definitely didn't happen overnight but ultimately it's what
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we both wanted and so we worked it out it took some time but we're good now all right all right
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um exes i think it's a little more convoluted than people think i know you guys are gonna roast me
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for this but i i've seen situations where exes are friends and i don't it doesn't seem like to
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me there's really anything there anymore um maybe i'm unique in having this observation
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personally i've never been in that situation i don't really keep in contact with anybody but
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i have seen situations where you know all right guys let me know what you think in the comments
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have you ever stayed friends with an ex um were you smashing or not let me know in the comments
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like the video and i'll see you next time
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