Pearl - March 25, 2026


The Girls Who Stay Friends With Their Exes (They're In Love)


Episode Stats

Length

13 minutes

Words per Minute

208.78885

Word Count

2,922

Sentence Count

52

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

1


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00:00:00.000 people cheat with exes and they're the best people to cheat with let's just keep it a buck here uh
00:00:04.080 because they have the rapport of like years and they also have each other's secrets so they're
00:00:08.000 not gonna out each other you know what up guys welcome to my reaction series today we are
00:00:13.280 reacting to women talking about how they need to stay friends with their ex um i actually have
00:00:18.480 mixed feelings on this um i mean in general not great but you know life is long and you never
00:00:27.200 really know where people are gonna be so i don't think it's the end of the world to stay friendly
00:00:33.520 with someone um especially if you're in the same like circles and stuff it's better than like a
00:00:37.840 full crash out um i think i have the unpopular opinion i've just seen it where people become
00:00:43.600 friends after and it's not weird um mostly out of necessity like they work together or something but
00:00:50.720 i i do appreciate where there's like a sense of maturity with your ex it's a sign of emotional
00:00:55.920 maturity. Two people who were once intimate and in love can absolutely evolve and transcend that
00:01:01.360 relationship and just be friends. That's a sign of emotional maturity, right? And if your actual
00:01:06.100 partner doesn't get it or gets mad, it's okay. Just understand that they're a little insecure
00:01:10.860 and probably lack the emotional maturity to understand this dynamic. Let's rewind. Really?
00:01:17.060 Okay, we got to discuss this for a second, okay? And again, I'm talking about the rule,
00:01:21.220 not the exception so don't come at me the fact that you continue to have contact with your ex
00:01:27.040 is not a sign of emotional maturity at all it's actually okay yeah how do i put it i don't think
00:01:33.520 you should be talking right but i don't have too many women crash out at the end and it's just
00:01:39.300 better to just be chill quite the opposite you simply don't want to lose your ex you don't want
00:01:44.080 to remove them from your life i actually know someone he gets lunch with his ex-girlfriend
00:01:49.200 of like 20 years ago every month i don't know there's certain personality types uh you guys
00:01:55.120 are gonna crash out on me i know it i know all the comments are gonna go but there's certain
00:01:59.420 personality types where they really could just let bygones be bygones and just move on but the
00:02:04.660 problem is there's too many messy people that'll hook up with them forever so i don't know put
00:02:09.300 your experiences in the comments girls can be friends with their ex and not hook up if it was
00:02:14.380 a beta bucks relationship because she never really liked you to begin with you don't want to break the
00:02:18.640 bond that you guys have still. You don't know how to close the book, right? Or go to another
00:02:24.600 chapter. You're obviously showing that you still have deep attachment to your ex-partner and
00:02:30.000 you have the nerve to say that it's emotional maturity. The fact of the matter is you haven't
00:02:36.460 been mature enough to let go of your ex-partner yet. And that is precisely a sign of emotional
00:02:41.140 immaturity guys get the out of here yeah i mean i wouldn't say you should be talking all the time
00:02:49.140 but how do i put it i don't know i think sometimes people just let bygones be bygone like i've seen
00:02:55.100 it in friend groups right where two people dated and they just kind of all moved on with that bs
00:03:00.000 okay that is gaslighting 101 in reality it's not that you're a very mature person who managed to
00:03:06.980 transform the bond of love into friendship no in reality you weren't able to close the door for good
00:03:13.200 because the attachment is still there and the dependence on your ex-partner is still there
00:03:17.200 all right we got this chick next talking about friends with that crazy but i think that sometimes
00:03:21.880 you can and actually even maybe should stay friends with someone you dated after it doesn't
00:03:27.420 work out romantically and i have the perfect example of this i'll tell you why because it
00:03:31.300 could be a choice later right but you know it's like i had your bets like if this doesn't work
00:03:36.620 out I have this backup you know um that's what a lot of women do you know um and maybe if you're
00:03:42.960 single but I don't know if you get serious with someone you got to stop talking I'm gonna be
00:03:47.100 honest I kind of has have hesitated to tell this story um and for obvious reasons you'll understand
00:03:52.360 when I tell the story um but I think enough time has passed that it's okay for me to tell the story
00:03:56.820 and it's also just too funny not to share so I was seeing this woman and like I said it didn't
00:04:01.460 work out romantically but we trauma bonded so hard over an experience that I think we will be
00:04:06.600 friends for the rest of our lives. So interesting fact about this woman, she actually shared a
00:04:11.440 birthday with my grandmother. My grandmother passed away earlier this year. She was 103 years
00:04:15.840 old. And unfortunately, my grandma passed away on their shared birthday. And I went home to see my
00:04:21.360 family and spent some time grieving my grandmother. And I was at my parents' house going through some
00:04:28.320 of my grandmother's things. And this gem of a human being agreed to come to my parents' house
00:04:33.860 with me and be a buffer with my parents and talk to them while I looked through my grandma's photos
00:04:39.080 and cried and spent some time grieving her. And so she was like talking to my parents, keeping
00:04:43.400 them company so that I could just have some time alone. And I'm going through some of my grandma's
00:04:48.200 things. And I opened my grandma's desk drawer, um, to see if there were any additional photos
00:04:52.460 in there. And I open it up and there looks to be a personal massager. And I'm like, surely that's
00:05:01.440 not what I think it is. My grandma was 103 years old. Also, this thing looks like it's like maybe
00:05:05.420 50 years old. And I'm just like, surely that's not what this is. So naturally I had to call in
00:05:11.060 some, uh, a second opinion. I had to know, like, is this what I think it is? So she comes into my
00:05:16.840 grandma's room and I show her the personal massager. And she's like, yeah, no, that's
00:05:20.620 exactly what you think it is. You're airing out your grandma online. Why are you speaking of the
00:05:25.120 but then we were faced with another problem what do you do with it uh I'm gonna be honest my
00:05:32.540 instinct was leave it there run away pretend we never saw anything it never happened but she made
00:05:38.760 a really great point we cannot just leave this there for someone else to find it but I am not
00:05:43.880 gonna throw that away I am not touching that so again this gem of a human being got some tissues
00:05:51.380 and reached in there and threw it away for me and then after that we left my parents house and we
00:05:57.320 went to lunch and we had a great waiter at lunch we told him all about it and when we left she
00:06:03.480 wrote on the receipt uh when she signed her signature um good vibes only so yeah i do think
00:06:10.860 that sometimes um okay uh how did i get roped into hearing about your grandma's vibrator at this
00:06:16.540 you guys ever have that where you listen into a woman's story and then it gets so raunchy and
00:06:21.360 you're like how did i i thought i was i thought we were talking about exes here like now i'm
00:06:26.200 hearing about grandma 103 year old vibrator grit like all right get in relationships with people
00:06:33.100 who stay friends with their exes unless people are co-parenting together that's like the one
00:06:38.580 exception but even then there should be good boundaries it is a major sign of not only
00:06:43.340 immaturity but also that person is keeping doors open with old flames what world yeah but we're
00:06:51.340 all rentals here like men and women are just renting each other so i mean i think i gotta
00:06:56.140 be honest the friends with the exes it's just pragmatic on both sides it's very pragmatic
00:07:01.500 were you involved romantically with someone and now you're just friends you just want to be friends
00:07:06.300 out of getting in a relationship with someone who stays friends with their exes talks to their exes
00:07:11.420 goes and checks on their ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend's social media accounts they are still
00:07:17.100 interested in that person they are still going to keep that door open in case that person is
00:07:22.220 interested in giving them a chance again and some people will try to sell this to you like oh they're
00:07:27.100 just so mature they can stay friends no no no they're gonna play you i'll never forget i was
00:07:31.980 doing this continuing ed seminar for being an attorney yeah the one thing is though people
00:07:37.660 cheat with exes and they're the best people to cheat with let's just keep it a buck here uh
00:07:41.660 because they have the rapport of like years and they also have each other's secrets so they're
00:07:45.580 They're not going to out each other, you know, so.
00:07:48.640 And a divorce attorney said that one of the things that they see often in divorces is someone reaching out to their ex.
00:07:56.240 I don't know.
00:07:56.780 People have like attachments that are kind of like lifelong.
00:08:01.540 Like I've heard of people being broken up for like 20 years and they reach out.
00:08:05.320 Girlfriend or boyfriend from high school.
00:08:07.620 Like people in their 30s, 40s, 50s are still going back to high school exes.
00:08:12.620 Texas, don't trust someone that leaves doors open with an ex-girlfriend or an ex-boyfriend.
00:08:18.280 I promise you, you will get played.
00:08:20.940 All right, let's see what we got next.
00:08:23.620 Rachel, she used to be hot.
00:08:25.560 What happened?
00:08:26.300 She's looking weird these days.
00:08:27.840 People are going to kill me for this, but I still do wish on some level we could be friends.
00:08:34.740 Yeah.
00:08:35.100 Because he was my best friend.
00:08:37.020 Try not to cry.
00:08:38.780 We were friends before.
00:08:41.060 are basically like going through divorces like because they'll be with someone for like three
00:08:44.980 or four years they become so integrated in your life and then yeah or boyfriend and girlfriend
00:08:51.620 sometimes like i would even look at him and be like are you like actually like in love with me
00:08:55.940 like do you yeah see your my you know like i don't know for for me at times i was like it really does
00:09:02.660 just seem like we're best friends yeah and i would love to maybe someday like not anytime soon don't
00:09:10.260 worry guys there want to be cordial friends everyone yeah be able to say hi friendly friendly
00:09:16.500 yeah i like that i feel like one of the big just weird because when you know someone on that level
00:09:20.740 i don't know how you go to being it's almost like that person just knows you in like a different way
00:09:26.020 you know questions right now is like are you in contact and we are not in contact i have not been
00:09:30.900 texting him i have not been calling him don't worry but i and she's in love with that man
00:09:37.460 she is in love with that man okay girl talk staying friends with your ex and your ex wants
00:09:42.100 to be friends there are three reasons why this happens the first one is false comfort for
00:09:46.580 himself if you did you really dirty and he wants to smash pretty much sometimes they say this
00:09:51.300 because they want to ease their own guilt being friends makes them feel like they didn't really
00:09:54.820 hurt you like it wasn't that bad please do not let somebody's guilty conscience keep you tied to them
00:09:59.620 they don't even be feeling bad for you half the time they'd be feeling bad for themselves the
00:10:02.660 second reason and honestly the most common reason is access can we be friends is code for can i
00:10:07.300 i still have access to you can i still keep you close enough that i can check on you flirt with
00:10:11.220 you make sure no one else has you without having to give you commitment or clarity that you deserve
00:10:15.580 honestly it's control and on top of that if you are a good woman if you treated them so well it's
00:10:20.440 really their loss so they want that access to you even if it's not y'all being official boyfriend
00:10:25.420 no they just want to smash girlfriend like they don't want to lose you all together even though
00:10:29.420 they're not willing to still hit do what it takes to keep you all together they don't want to lose
00:10:33.420 you all together they want to hit and also hit other people you know they want to smash and
00:10:37.000 smash others so they will find any reason to make it seem like we don't have to completely leave
00:10:41.280 each other's lives but who is that doing more damage to you who's getting the better end of
00:10:45.720 the stick out of that deal him that's not fair and the third reason goes into number two it's
00:10:49.560 the illusion of hope sometimes they say can we still be friends to keep you from fully moving
00:10:53.800 on as long as there's a thread keeping y'all connected there's hope and when there's hope
00:10:57.520 especially if you love them it's harder for you to let them go you cannot just be friends with
00:11:02.160 somebody who you love deeply like you can't i know it's hard and it would be so much easier not
00:11:09.500 really but it would feel so much easier in the moment to be like okay we're not together but
00:11:13.960 we'll always be in each other's lives cute now you never talk again okay next 90 of the time
00:11:19.940 the only time i really see people be friends after is like if it's a beta bucks relationship
00:11:24.720 where the girl really didn't like him like that then sometimes it can work i'm still friends with
00:11:29.880 my ex and this is how. When we broke up it did not feel right to completely cut each other out
00:11:34.760 of our lives. I think for most people that's probably really healthy to go no contact but for
00:11:38.300 us it just didn't feel right with our intuition. In order to stay friends we had to firmly agree
00:11:44.320 that we were not going to try to get back together. We went to therapy to help establish what our
00:11:49.540 boundaries and expectations were for our friendship. For us that looked like facetiming
00:11:54.760 about once a week and um being there for each other if we needed to be we agreed not to talk
00:12:00.440 about going on dates with other people and only let each other know if we were going to be in a
00:12:04.360 relationship with someone else we did talk about what went wrong in our relationship but we only
00:12:09.080 did it in the sense of bringing up to each other what we did wrong so i did this how did that feel
00:12:15.080 for you i wish that i did it better but we never pointed our finger and said you did this ma'am
00:12:19.720 that's your husband just get back with him i mean once we stopped doing that things started to
00:12:25.320 evolve in our friendship in the beginning there was a lot of crying and anger and resentment and
00:12:31.640 we had to work through that um in our friendship and now we're just friends and it's good it took
00:12:37.880 time but not having him in my life at all and him not having me in his life at all both felt wrong
00:12:43.700 for both of us and um i'm confident that we'll be friends for life and like we're good with that and
00:12:50.660 if one of us gets into another relationship it might suck at first i don't know i know is it
00:12:55.220 crazy that i wouldn't really care if a guy was friends with his ex is that crazy that i wouldn't
00:13:00.660 care i just feel like you know it didn't work for a reason she probably just needs her tv hung or
00:13:05.220 something i hurt a little bit it might sting a little bit but we know that we're not right for
00:13:10.180 each other anymore so it feels right it definitely didn't happen overnight but ultimately it's what
00:13:16.860 we both wanted and so we worked it out it took some time but we're good now all right all right
00:13:23.500 um exes i think it's a little more convoluted than people think i know you guys are gonna roast me
00:13:29.560 for this but i i've seen situations where exes are friends and i don't it doesn't seem like to
00:13:36.280 me there's really anything there anymore um maybe i'm unique in having this observation
00:13:42.400 personally i've never been in that situation i don't really keep in contact with anybody but
00:13:48.300 i have seen situations where you know all right guys let me know what you think in the comments
00:13:53.120 have you ever stayed friends with an ex um were you smashing or not let me know in the comments
00:13:58.120 like the video and i'll see you next time