Pearl - June 06, 2025


The Pro Life Movement CANT Answer This Question

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In this episode, we have a special guest on the show, pearl Jamison, who is the founder of the pro-life organization "Stop Abortion Now" and is a long-time member of the anti-abortion movement known as the "Pro-Life Movement."

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00:00:00.000 i don't see women stopping killing their kids ever ever i mean pearl by your logic let's be real 0.99
00:00:06.320 here pearl by your logic you're saying women are so evil they're going to kill no matter what 1.00
00:00:10.480 they kill their born children too let me just finish please population that's pretty bad 1.00
00:00:15.120 let me just finish pearl give me one second here i think you're casting really big generalizations
00:00:21.600 about men versus women and i think you're kind of speaking to maybe the virtue of fortitude
00:00:26.080 where people do you know are courageous or do what's right even when it's hard but i think
00:00:30.320 women are different well let me just finish what i was gonna say i think women can have that virtue 1.00
00:00:35.520 too so i don't think that there's like an exclusively male virtue to do what's right or
00:00:38.880 an exclusively female virtue to you know be loving or something like this um so i disagree with the
00:00:43.840 broad strokes that you're um you know painting here but i i would ask you you know it sounds like we
00:00:48.960 agree which is a good thing that abortion is murder abortion is horrible abortion is wrong we agree on 0.89
00:00:54.160 that and if we agree on that i guess my question to you probably why wouldn't you want to fight that
00:00:58.960 even if it would only help save one life wouldn't it be worth it to you to still speak out against it
00:01:03.200 to still advocate for the rights of those children well and i think this is what women have a tendency 1.00
00:01:07.920 to do is they think that talking into a microphone like saves lives right i don't really believe again
00:01:14.080 i don't believe the pro-life movement is effective i think it's easy to like take the credit
00:01:18.720 but i think that women that don't want to abort their kids will find the resources to not the same 1.00
00:01:23.760 way somebody that wants to lose weight will find the resources to not do that i think if they found
00:01:30.480 your organization they really didn't want to do it to begin with because like you know women aren't 1.00
00:01:35.840 aborting nba players kids or like rich men's kids in general i mean there's broad strokes obviously
00:01:43.920 um and i also don't really understand the i think that's totally untrue by the way but i i don't know
00:01:49.120 where you're getting that from uh women there was a spiral story women steal condoms lila from the nba 1.00
00:02:00.480 so so this was this was a problem this was a problem where they had to issue out statements
00:02:05.520 telling men to throw away their condoms because women were stealing it i don't think it's untrue that 1.00
00:02:11.520 women have a tendency to try to get kids off of wealthy men um if anything you congratulated ashley 0.94
00:02:18.640 st claire for doing that exactly you you congratulated her when she was pregnant by
00:02:23.760 elon musk's baby which she planned for years so i don't know when it's in front of your face how you
00:02:29.520 can deny that happens so well a couple things first of all when it comes to congratulating
00:02:36.400 you're mentioning ashley st claire for her baby i think any baby's existence is a beautiful gift and
00:02:41.360 deserves celebration so that's the first thing i'll say the second single mother no matter how they were 0.99
00:02:46.000 conceived pearl no matter how they were conceived they are a gift from god and they deserve a right
00:02:50.480 to life and they deserve celebration but then another thing i'll say is you you you seem to be
00:02:55.520 continually you know doing these broad brush strokes of all women this all women that all men this on
00:03:01.920 the net i don't think that's at all i don't think that's reality and i think it's really unhelpful
00:03:07.360 to you know paint such broad brushes because certainly there are women that do terrible things 1.00
00:03:12.880 certainly there are men that do terrible things but i don't think it's going to be useful ultimately
00:03:18.080 to say all men are this way all women are this way it's just why don't we focus on the argument 0.85
00:03:22.640 instead of why don't we just let me finish instead of tone policing because you're right now you're
00:03:28.640 basically saying i don't like the way you said it which is fine that's not what i'm saying i'm saying
00:03:32.800 what you're saying is untrue there's a difference what did i say you're saying what did i say that did
00:03:37.440 actually st claire not try to get a kid off of elon musk did that not happen that that's not what
00:03:43.280 i was talking about i was talking about you saying women are all like this women always do that that's 1.00
00:03:48.000 not what i said though okay what what's been no you you claim that i said something untrue so tell me
00:03:54.240 exactly what i said the characterization that all women try to do x right i said they have a tendency
00:04:01.680 i said have a tendency well i i just disagree that all women have this tendency to go after rich
00:04:06.800 men and try to whatever you were saying you know i don't think that's true i don't think that's true
00:04:11.840 okay well what data do you have to prove it well i can i can have you meet at least i know hundreds
00:04:18.800 of women personally that that's not how they behave okay so right there i just you know i proved you 0.99
00:04:24.080 wrong because there are because i know i know someone that's not a good argument lila i mean it
00:04:29.360 might work out if you're saying on the trap people you argue with that doesn't work on me
00:04:33.680 like you know but they just so if you're saying all women have this tendency okay but they're not 1.00
00:04:40.720 all women are not doing that then i think that that is not a correct characterization of women
00:04:44.640 to divorce men that they out earn women tend to marry men and have children with men that earn 0.84
00:04:51.760 aren't you conservative protect provide you don't want provider men 1.00
00:04:55.760 i think that's good i'm not sure how that connects back to what we were just talking about but yes i
00:05:02.640 think it's wonderful when men provide okay um the other thing you said i said where are you going with
00:05:08.400 all of this because i i am curious if i may ask you another question you know you're saying the pro
00:05:12.080 life movement has you know no hope and it's pointless but i just explained it you know i said it's
00:05:18.880 ineffective well you were saying it's ineffective but i just explained to you that as one example
00:05:24.960 there have been there were 40 000 lives saved when roe v wade fell roe v wade would not have fallen
00:05:30.800 without the pro-life movement so are those 40 lives 40 000 lives in your view not they don't matter that
00:05:38.000 that that that that means that the public movement's ineffective because those 40 000 lives were saved i
00:05:42.640 believe that those women if they wanted to have a child they would have it and if they didn't 1.00
00:05:47.680 want to have a kid they wouldn't i think oftentimes um people on the internet have a tendency to think
00:05:54.160 and attribute everything to themselves but the same way that um the same way like if i was a personal
00:06:01.280 training um page right and somebody found me to lose weight if they didn't find me they would have
00:06:07.520 found somebody else they wanted to lose weight i believe that when women women i believe ultimately 0.82
00:06:13.920 your actions show what you want to do not what you say but what you actually do so okay that's how
00:06:20.800 what would be your what would be your recommended solutions to abortion to save lives what would you
00:06:25.680 do i don't think it's solvable unfortunately i think women are women have a tendency have a tendency 1.00
00:06:32.560 to be ruthless um and i've shown women videos of abortions and with a cold face they don't care
00:06:39.360 i've met women that have had five abortions they do not care women are very callous and cold 1.00
00:06:45.280 um i mean there's a reason women even when a kid's born in the first year if there is an infanticide 1.00
00:06:50.560 i'm sure you know the stat the most likely person to do it is the mother the most likely person to 0.83
00:06:55.600 abuse a child when it's one of the biological parents is the mother so women are violent women 1.00
00:07:03.440 are far more violent than society gives them credit for they're also the most likely to abuse the 0.98
00:07:08.800 elderly when it comes to killing the innocent oh my gosh women are ruthless um i think you could try to 1.00
00:07:15.120 logic women that's a strategy i don't think it's an effective one because i don't think they care 1.00
00:07:21.680 and the reason i don't think they care is because you know i've been pro-life from a young age like
00:07:27.520 quote-unquote pro like i haven't believed in abortion from a young age and it's because
00:07:31.840 i wanted to find the i i wanted to find the information right i i want it's on google there's
00:07:38.400 nothing stopping a woman from finding that information but they choose to not because 1.00
00:07:44.080 they don't want to so i don't see women stopping killing their kids ever ever i mean pearl by your 0.98
00:07:50.960 logic let's be real here pearl by your logic you're saying women are so evil they're going to kill no 1.00
00:07:55.200 no matter what they kill their born children too let me just finish please and then you said the 0.94
00:07:59.120 world population that's pretty bad let me just finish pearl give me one second here all right
00:08:03.120 by your logic we should just get rid of murder laws we should just get rid of laws that govern
00:08:08.560 the behavior of women because they're so bad they're going to always do bad stuff and i'd say absolutely 1.00
00:08:12.240 not the law is a t-shirt the law does have power it doesn't mean everybody perfectly will follow the
00:08:17.360 law i would love for it i would love we need laws i totally would love for it to be illegal if it was
00:08:23.440 up to me well good i'm glad we agree on that much we would agree but it doesn't mean that i think it'll
00:08:28.640 happen and i think what i often hear conservatives say i mean start what i often hear what i can i
00:08:33.920 finish so and i often hear conservatives say as they say the word should well should it's just a
00:08:39.600 wish list it's just i wish that would happen and you know anyone that's like run a company or or you
00:08:46.320 know how you know like if i went to an army general and said there shouldn't be war he would say
00:08:51.760 wow that sounds nice well what's your plan how are we going to end this war in the next year
00:08:56.640 and he says well i think it'll happen in my lifetime if i was the general i would say i don't know if
00:09:02.320 i don't know if we're going to win this war that's not a great strategy and what i've heard just
00:09:08.160 really aren't the best strategies and i don't know if there is a way to win because women have too much 1.00
00:09:13.440 much voting power