Pearl - July 03, 2026


The Real Redpill Is Being A NEET


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NEATs are people that are purposely opting out of the workforce between the ages of 15-24 years old. What does this mean and why do these people feel left behind by the economy? In this episode, Marnie talks to Tom Gimbel, Founder and Board Member of the LaSalle Network, about this phenomenon.

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00:00:00.000 Men aren't the ones that want remote work. That's women. If anything, men just want the women to 1.00
00:00:04.920 leave them alone. What's up, guys? Welcome to my reaction series. Today, we are reacting to
00:00:10.380 NEATs, which are people that are purposely opting out of the workforce. So let's see what they have
00:00:16.020 to say. Tomorrow, we will be getting the new jobs report for the month of June. According to the May
00:00:21.440 jobs report, unemployment right around 4%. Generally, unemployment is considered a negative
00:00:26.500 thing, but some young people are opting out of the labor force on purpose. These are called
00:00:31.920 NEATS, and it stands for Not In Employment, Education, or Training. And it's mostly young 0.86
00:00:37.540 men between the ages of 15 to 24. You know, it's so crazy. Women are more unemployed than young
00:00:43.600 men, and yet they created a term for young men that are opting out of the workforce. But women
00:00:48.940 are entering into the sex workforce. So what's worse, you know, and yet they're saying this is 0.99
00:00:53.900 a crisis. I'm like, I don't know. Women selling Poonani at alarmingly high rates and then asking
00:00:59.600 for a ring after is a crisis, you know. Labor economists say this population feels left behind
00:01:06.560 by the economy. For more on this, I'm joined now by Tom Gimbel, founder and board member of LaSalle
00:01:11.760 Network. Good morning to you. Happy Fourth of July. How you doing? I'm doing great. And just
00:01:17.260 for your earlier segment, Marnie, I grew up in Highland Park, Illinois, where the tragedy was
00:01:21.640 a couple of years ago and my heart goes out to everybody who's there. Yeah, my heart goes out
00:01:25.420 to you as well and all those impacted. Yeah, what a tragic day. They're finding a great way though
00:01:29.560 to honor those victims today. You know, this term NEAT was new to me and my team as we started to
00:01:34.840 look into this. Is this group of people, they don't desire to work? I mean, what does this
00:01:41.560 actually mean? Well, I think it's a narrative that's being painted, Marnie, by every side that
00:01:47.220 you can imagine just like everything else on on some clickbait stuff to be be honest with you
00:01:52.600 and i think what we have is this demographic of 15 16 to 24 year old primarily males and and i
00:02:01.280 wonder if they're just getting employed in a different way because i have found um that
00:02:06.640 usually when men are doing something contrary contrary to their nature like working um there's
00:02:13.020 catch and i'm guessing they're employed in other ways like uber eats and somehow it's not registering
00:02:19.820 them as full-time working a lot of finger pointing a lot of on the victim and and i think that you
00:02:26.780 know going back i'm 52 years old 35 years ago i would have been in a situation where my dad would
00:02:32.860 have said mow a lawn uh be a caddy at a golf course wait a table it's also that we don't have the
00:02:40.140 discipline for young men um because mothers are raising them so and we've kind of lost that bit of
00:02:48.380 desire to work in in this day and age right i mean yeah it's also because before they would 0.98
00:02:54.440 get something out of it a wife a kid and now they get a big fat whore so yeah i think of myself 20 0.95
00:03:01.720 plus years ago i mean i was i was excited to get my first job right i was like chomping at the bit 0.97
00:03:06.820 um why do they feel like they're victims victims of of what exactly right and i think that's where
00:03:13.900 we're at right now is that whether it's 15 to 24 year old males or the the demographic any
00:03:19.160 demographic that says they feel forgotten is we've got historically low unemployment for a
00:03:24.120 continued period of time we're still adding jobs to the economy and walk by any restaurant and see
00:03:29.480 the signs for uh cash register workers or servers or dishwashers and i'm not saying those are the
00:03:35.720 highest level of jobs or with somebody with a college degree once but 15 to 22 year olds don't
00:03:40.500 necessarily have college and also i i think it's deem um i think it's demotivating if you don't see
00:03:46.620 upward mobility degrees yet and so when we're looking at this the the question is do you want
00:03:51.620 to work are you falling into this i'm the victim i need flexibility i need remote work yeah so again
00:03:58.100 they're kind of gaslighting men aren't the ones um they'll want remote work that's women if anything
00:04:02.860 men just want the women to leave them alone i think men men are willing to work but they would
00:04:07.180 just prefer to work without women should only have to work when i want to and i think we've created
00:04:11.980 a little bit of this victimization is if things don't come easy especially to the younger generation 0.99
00:04:17.740 then then you don't have to do it right and i really think that go ahead go ahead no sorry
00:04:23.260 no i just think that's the deterioration that we're dealing with and i think the problem that
00:04:26.860 we have um in major cities and in the country is that no one's willing to stand up and leave
00:04:31.820 and say you know sometimes we need tough love and and when you're a young person working
00:04:36.780 that are looking for work or needing money that's what you do you go get a job and you build up a
00:04:41.900 resume is this a double-edged sword because i think about work ethic right and when you and
00:04:47.180 i started in our respective fields i mean you you went into work when you were sick you never called
00:04:53.260 off you did 10 times the work you were supposed to do because you wanted to get ahead you were
00:04:57.500 glad and happy to be there is part of the responsibility now on employers are we not
00:05:02.460 setting expectations high enough when we bring on new talent fresh green talent that i think
00:05:08.620 this is what we expect of you yeah yeah go ahead well yeah okay you know there's a few things 1.00
00:05:13.260 female bosses female bosses are a curse from hell that's one issue um another issue is going to be 1.00
00:05:19.900 um they see these hot women just get promotions while they're doing the job for them that's going 0.99
00:05:25.660 to be an issue and three uh women aren't grateful at all anymore so okay now you guys have anything
00:05:33.260 to add if you're in that age demographic put it in my computer froze for a second i think there
00:05:37.660 used to be an expression marty in your 20s you you churn in your 30s you learn and in your 40s you
00:05:43.020 earn and and in the wave of the past 25 years bull market like we've never seen people started
00:05:49.820 making so much money in their 20s and their 30s it really changed the dynamic upside down and so
00:05:55.500 everybody's now two degrees away from somebody who's a millionaire or their sibling or parent
00:06:00.300 is a multi-millionaire and it's crazy and you're exactly right is that to get out there and have a
00:06:06.860 work ethic to know what it means to get up early before the sun comes up it's not about whether
00:06:11.980 somebody's taking advantage of you you're not making enough money we all feel that way at
00:06:16.380 sometimes in our career no matter what level of the spectrum we're on and the real issue is do
00:06:21.660 you have the ability to go in and grind it out whether you're the ceo well i mean we always talk
00:06:27.100 about ceos who make some yeah but like what's in it for men to work hard before they got something
00:06:32.140 in return now they don't much money there's plenty that that think they're underpaid too it's not
00:06:37.420 just the fortune 500 ones and they're working 24 7 and it's the same way management and entry level
00:06:43.980 you've got to go in crank it out and show that you deserve more whether it's yeah and a lot of times
00:06:50.140 what happens is these guys become high status and they kind of stop relating to the low status men 0.55
00:06:55.900 and they also don't see how miserable women make low status men's lives because women will act like
00:07:02.020 two different people have you ever heard of a neat it's the acronym that stands for not in 0.79
00:07:07.560 employment education or training and apparently more and more gen zers are choosing to become one
00:07:13.320 box size linda schmidt breaks it all down well it seems there is a group of people in their 20s
00:07:18.520 around the world who are choosing to do nothing and this group even has its own acronym NEET 0.94
00:07:23.980 I don't know why it's just crazy they because women choose to do nothing all the time women 1.00
00:07:30.260 do nothing at work women do nothing at home women just are constantly doing nothing or doing 1.00
00:07:34.700 pointless things where men are doing productive things and then when a man decides not to they 0.98
00:07:41.360 never ask is this a rational response it's always let's shame them for doing it what that stands for
00:07:48.020 is men are rational people usually if they do something not interested in education employment
00:07:54.740 or training it's a motivational issue but career coach barry drexler says it is a small group of
00:08:01.620 people who are choosing not to work get an education or learn a trade he does not believe
00:08:07.780 a recent study claiming that it includes about a quarter of the 20 somethings around the world
00:08:14.260 No, it is a thing. It's a fringe issue, though. It's not the bulk of the population.
00:08:20.180 I don't think it's a real thing.
00:08:22.000 There is even a debate among experts as to whether NEAT even exists.
00:08:27.720 It's hard to take an average from economies across the globe and draw any conclusions,
00:08:34.320 because what might be representative for the United States could be very different from
00:08:38.620 a less developed country, different economies around the world.
00:08:43.300 human resources expert gregory gian grande says the pandemic dramatically changed how people think
00:08:49.620 about work but most people are still working there has been this explosion of gig workers
00:08:56.420 so people who yeah that's exactly what i thought it was creation who are working for themselves
00:09:02.100 many of them are making money off the books books so when uh they're not motivated to say that they
00:09:08.340 are that they're employed um or in training because then they'd have to report that income
00:09:14.100 and for the small fringe group not interested in working or say they cannot find work unless their
00:09:20.660 parents are supporting them and will continue to support them they can't sustain a life of not
00:09:26.740 making any money linda schmidt fox 5 news yeah again women have been doing this melania a lot
00:09:32.580 of feminism is going to be men playing women's women's game and women's game women's game has
00:09:37.780 always been doing nothing it's like the same reason they say being a mother is the hardest
00:09:41.460 job on the planet when it's not that hard and then men do it and they're like this is amazing
00:09:45.940 i would love to do this job this is what there's like a guy recently who came out and he said i've
00:09:51.060 had every job and this is the best one by far because again um whatever women can do men tend
00:09:57.220 to do better so let me know what you think in the comments guys like the video subscribe to 0.93
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